French nuclear submarine launched a ballistic missile towards the Caribbean Sea

The French Navy decided to flex their muscles in the Atlantic. For the first time in a long time, missile tests were conducted using a submarine.

We are talking about the nuclear strategic submarine Le Téméraire, belonging to the type of Triomphant.

A ballistic missile was launched from the side of the submarine at a time when it was off the coast of the French department of Finister.

In the test area, a Dassault Falcon 50 aircraft appeared with representatives of the naval command on board.

Ballistic missile launched from the submarine - M51. This is a solid rocket, which was put into service underwater fleet France in 2010 (according to other sources, in 2011). It is noteworthy that initially the M51 range was indicated as 11 thousand km, then official information changed - 9 thousand km. It was stated that the reduction in range is associated with a number of unresolved technical problems.

It is worth noting that during similar tests that were conducted in 2013, a ballistic missile exploded immediately after launch.

Information about the new test confirmed by the Minister of Armed Forces of France Florence Parley. From the statement of the Minister:

This test demonstrates our technological superiority and our commitment to French sovereignty. I congratulate all those whose work has made this test successful. Their participation is crucial for the French nuclear deterrence system and for our independence.

At the same time, there is no exact data on how far the M51 has traveled. It is reported that the rocket was launched towards the Caribbean Sea. Indirectly, this information is confirmed by the then increased activity of the American intelligence aviation east of Puerto Rico.

Comments

[sav]

One more "partners" ... We must keep our ears open

[figwam]

Quote: sav

One more "partners" ... We must keep our ears open

The date was specially chosen, on the day of Russia!

[Ilya-spb]

I just want to say: "How many missiles do we have? - Four!"

[knn54]

M51 is an analogue of theUGM-133A Trident II, but with a shorter range.
Now they are developing an improved version of the ballistic missile-M51.3. Most likely, it was tested.

[nks]

Quote: knn54

M51.3. Most likely. Her and tested.

no. 51.2 shot.

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: knn54

M51 is an analogue of theUGM-133A Trident II, but with a shorter range.
Now they are developing an improved version of the ballistic missile-M51.3. Most likely, it was tested.

Launched M51.2.

The boat launched a missile without a nuclear warhead off the west coast of France. Throughout the flight, the ammunition was tracked by radars and fell 700 kilometers from the launch site away from land.
The M51 is France’s latest ballistic missile, and has been in service since 2010. The weight of SLBMs is 52 tons, 12 meters long and 2,3 meters in diameter, with an estimated range of 8 to 000 kilometers. The M10 carries six to ten thermonuclear warheads that can maneuver to overcome missile defense.

https://42.tut.by/688565

[Peter is not the first]

If to joke, then not four rockets, but three left.
But if to be serious, the French have four such boats, and each of them has 16 silos for ballistic missiles. So, you shouldn't forget about such a serious "partner".

[Sergey Medvedev]

Quote: figvam

The date was specially chosen, on the day of Russia!

But at the same time they shot towards America. Figs understand these French.

[seregatara1969]

Yes Yes. Palnuli in America, just a little did not hit

[Sergey Medvedev]

Caught in the Caribbean. A hint of a Caribbean Crisis? Or just not enough?

[Alex777]

Apparently, the Americans also tested something at home.
The direction of this flight is provocative, of course.

[Wolf]

And where will it launch, except at sea, In the direction of Russia? Then you can expect a gulp answer!

[fider]

Wolf

And where will it launch, except at sea, wink Towards Russia? laughing
Then you can expect a gulp answer!

He invented it himself - he answered. Self-service.

[Hunter 2]

However, a lot of news today about the French nuclear submarines .... well - the second boat was not burned and drowned (although how to look ).

[sav]

The day has just started

[Kadum]

Quote: Hunter 2

However, a lot of news today about the French nuclear submarines .... well - the second boat was not burned and drowned (although how to look ).

What if they missed and flew to Florida ... And there are protests coming ?!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Hunter 2

well - the second boat was not burned and drowned (although how to look).

Well, a fire is such a thing, it is not subject to a damn god, it can happen to everyone. But I myself do not blame the fire (as a creature) in this situation.

[nks]

They did not burn or drown the first boat either - it was in a dry dock and the fire was extinguished. Without any sacrifices, unlike.

[mark1]

Towards the Caribbean ... How did the Americans react to this? Maybe we should release there too?

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: mark1

Towards the Caribbean ... How did the Americans react to this? Maybe we should release there too?

For God's sake. Only then we should expect the flight of the Amerian BR into the Black Sea or somewhere else.

[Mavrikiy]

French nuclear submarine launched a ballistic missile towards the Caribbean Sea

But the notice was, well, fly doves, fly.

[tihonmarine]

This test demonstrates our technological superiority and our commitment to French sovereignty.

A lot of words about French sovereignty, but in reality everything looks different. You can recall a piece of history. Maybe the French have forgotten what these tourists did in Paris.

[Terenin]

Quote: tihonmarine

This test demonstrates our technological superiority and our commitment to French sovereignty.

A lot of words about French sovereignty, but in reality everything looks different. You can recall a piece of history. Maybe the French have forgotten what these tourists did in Paris.

How, what are they doing? Visit their military brothel ...
By the way, prostitution, as such in France, was not banned by the Martha Richard Act of 1946.

[Simsimal]

It is sad that in the time of Napoleon there were no cameras.
And Giray also was absent.

[Wolf]

Similarly, tourists in Paris. France it was time and ended with DeGaul, today France the hell knows whose power.

[Thrifty]

This day will now be celebrated in France as the day of the Bastille (for rent, , that is, a new French holiday will appear! !!
,

[Mountain shooter]

New solid rocket on the French nuclear submarine. France remembered its nuclear forces, because in the USA, what the hell is going on? Is it a revolution, or is it just a maidan, and you need to think about your defense?
Or just coincided?

[really]

The strange reaction of the local inhabitants, the French shot a cause for pogoskalstva, their reason for pride.

[rocket757]

Every sandpiper of his .... frogs eats, although strangers can be tastier! At the expense of EXCELLENCE, but they don’t argue about tastes.
Although, the sandpiper, it seems, does not eat frogs ... but they do not argue about tastes, really well!

[really]

Sandpiper no longer pour and less too

[A. Privalov]

Quote: really

The strange reaction of the local inhabitants, the French shot a cause for pogoskalstva, their reason for pride.

"... the naval forces decided to flex their muscles" - nothing more than a moldy figure of speech from the ever-memorable 70s.
Well, it's like our own - always "valiant scouts", and like strangers - so necessarily "insidious spies".

[tech3030]

They take advantage of what they have, they can’t come up with their own. I put the minus, I managed to click in the wrong direction!

[mitrich]

Well, everything is according to the principle: we are well done, the rest are scoundrels. And then, such foolish ones as ukrosumeriy, are surprised: and then for what obs.rayut?

[Vita vko]

It is a pity that Russia did not manage to resolve the issue of rebuilding the intelligence center in Cuba. Now there would be something to respond to such "successful" launches aimed at intimidating Russia's allies in the region.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Vita VKO

It is a pity that Russia did not manage to resolve the issue of rebuilding the intelligence center in Cuba. Now there would be something to respond to such "successful" launches aimed at intimidating Russia's allies in the region.

1. What does the intelligence center in Cuba have to do with it? He certainly did not shoot telemetry from ICBMs! And he had nothing to do with the SPRN system ...

The capabilities of the center made it possible to intercept data from American communications satellites, terrestrial telecommunication cables, as well as messages from the US NASA flight control center in the nearby US state of Florida [

2. And what, is there really nothing for Russia to answer? Is it really so bad without the launch of the French SLBM?
3. What regional allies of Russia in EUROPA are you talking about? Or are you talking about the Western half-ass "mean". So there, too, it seems like there is no smell of allies ...
So what are you talking about?
Explain, plz!

[Vita vko]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

3. What regional allies of Russia in EUROPA are you talking about?

Those. for you Cuba, Venezuela and other countries of Latin America and other countries cooperating with Russia, despite the sanctions, are not worthy of attention anymore?

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

2. And what, is there really nothing for Russia to answer?

You need to understand that the Caribbean is still the reverse side of the Earth. And even modern 3-hop over-the-horizon radars are far from always capable of detecting the launch torch of a medium-range ballistic missile.

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

1. What does the intelligence center in Cuba have to do with it? He certainly didn’t shoot telemetry from ICBMs

To detect the launch of ballistic missiles, conventional meter-range radars were sufficient there. On a standard scale of 1200 km, they covered 90% of the Caribbean Sea and reached the US coast. But telemetry, the intensification of negotiations on the air, is just well detected by the radio-technical intelligence complexes, which were based on a Cuban base, and not an early warning system. In modern conditions, a relatively cheap coastal radar such as "Sunflower" or "Container" could quite effectively control the entire region.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Vita VKO

for you Cuba, Venezuela and other countries of Latin America and other countries cooperating with Russia, despite the sanctions, are not worthy of attention anymore?

I was talking about allies. Those. about countries (with a declaration of war on us) that are on our side with arms in hand against a common enemy. With which of the listed countries do we have agreements on mutual armed protection in accordance with "allied obligations"?

Quote: Vita VKO

And even modern 3-hop over-the-horizon radars are far from always capable of detecting the launch torch of a medium-range ballistic missile.

Do you seriously believe that the RSD from the Western half-ass threaten our territory !?
And I have the impression that you haven’t heard about the space echelon of an early warning missile system either, since you are talking about the ZGRLS PV ... But quite recently there was an article about the "Tundra" on the VO ... Spacecraft with IR detectors, but on the "body".

Quote: Vita VKO

To detect the launch of ballistic missiles there were enough ordinary meter radars. On a standard scale of 1200 km, they covered 90% of the Caribbean Sea and reached the US coast.

Colleague, look at the map where the silos of the Minutemans are located and what they are armed with ...

one W87 warhead on all 300 LGM-30G Minuteman-III missiles at Warren (Wyoming) and Malstrom (Montana) air bases. 150 missiles at Minot Air Force Base (North Dakota) will continue to be on duty with W78 warheads.

Why do you need the Caribbean? There are definitely no American submarines there. On the Atlantic coast, SSBNs are based at the Kings Bay naval base, Georgia. So, the usual, "meter" radars of the general air situation ... not that ... will be.
AHA.

[Oleg Zorin]

What real allies does Russia have? Such that not "blah-blah-blah", but in all seriousness in a difficult hour supported? Alas, there are none

[Dmitry Makarov]

Well done, the French, the United States leave the stage, and New Forces decided to declare themselves.

[rotmistr60]

... French systems nuclear deterrence and for our of independence...

I wonder who France is holding back its nuclear weapons? Is it really Russia, which has enveloped France around its perimeter with its bases and called it an enemy in its military doctrine? And the independence of France and its sovereignty extends to Libya? There are many questions, but there is only one answer - if you are a member of NATO, you are obliged to transfer from empty to empty regarding deterrence, independence and threats emanating from the East.

[nks]

Anyone who wants to attack. Modern Russia, unfortunately, most of all shouts about its iskanders, etc. with glazing, including Europe.

[K-50]

Their participation is crucial to our independence.

How can a rocket test affect France’s independence from Pin to this?
Because no one else infringes on the interests of frogs.

[Free wind]

And yesterday, my neighbor peed with contempt towards Washington, though we don’t know where this Washington is, but peeed in the wind, well, at least it didn’t rain. Laughing at such articles is already disgusting.

[babylon]

African colonies rebel, so they decided to scare them a little))

[DED_peer_DED]

Most likely this news is for Turkey with Italy.
The hegemon clearly began to lose his "uniting forces", so discord went everywhere. All the riffraff immediately felt that the leader was not up to them and that they could bark and bite with neighbors without fear of shouting from behind a puddle.

[iouris]

ABOUT! It turns out in the "Caribbean seas" an international test site for ballistic missiles. Why is he idle?

[Poetry]

It would be better to fucking in Florida. What a naughty thing in vain?

[Boa kaa]

it is reported that the rocket was fired towards the Caribbean. Indirectly, this information is confirmed by the increased at that time activity of American intelligence aircraft east of Puerto Rico.

Strange some kind of info in fact ...
1. France is a member of NATO. And to shoot at a bearing to the United States, without prior agreement, is fraught with at least "misunderstanding" on the part of the hegemen.
2. The French with such a range could well be discharged in TO, since there is a "million-to-million" water area! But there is a danger that the Russians could track the European leg of the M51's trajectory. And France does not have a mobile data acquisition complex
3. France is forced to shoot through the most "saturated" sea area - across the Atlantic - at the test site (water area) located next to the * Kourou * cosmodrome or the Guiana space center, which is located near the northern coast of South America. This cosmodrome is used by European countries and the French National Center for Space Research (CNES). There are all the necessary instrumentation for reading the parameters for the accuracy of the BB aiming.
Well, judging by the info, the French conducted a test launch of their M51.2, as previously stated. Here is her performance characteristics:
D firing, km 9000 (according to other sources 6000-8000 and 10000 in variant M51.2)
KVO, km 0,25 (0,2 in variant M51.2)
Type of warhead RGCH IN with KSP PRO
The number of BB 6
The power of each warhead, ct 100 (300 in version M51.2)
Missile mass, t 56
Rocket length, m 12
Rocket diameter, m 2,3
Operating time of each march stage, from 60
Number of stages 3 march + breeding stage
In the West, it is believed that this is the most advanced SLBM today.

[really]

France is not a member of NATO

[Boa kaa]

Michael, you are mistaken!
France returned to NATO’s military organization under President Nicolas Sarkozy in 2009: in March, the National Assembly voted in favor of the president’s proposal to return France to NATO command structures, and a formal decision was announced at the NATO summit in Strasbourg and Cologne. At the same time, France did not join the activities of the NATO Nuclear Planning Group. Thus, she left the right to dispose of her nuclear forces at her discretion.
Best regards,

[really]

Detailed answer, thanks. I read

[nks]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

France does not have a mobile complex for data collection

Yes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ship_Monge

[Boa kaa]

You're right. There is a floating measuring complex on the Monge ship. And he was assigned to the M51 trials. I don't know where he is now.
But there was such an infa that
On September 27, 2018, Monge lost track, returning to Brest. The ship was 10 miles (16 km) from Pierres Noires lighthouse and took measurements when it suddenly lost speed. The tugboat Abeille Bourbon was sent to tow Monge to the end of his journey to WBM Brest.
Judging by the info, the ship was used to track the M51 in the initial and middle sections of the trajectory. A BB splashdown already conducted a spacecraft tracking complex at the Kourou spaceport. Monge could not simultaneously be 10 thousand km from the start of the M51.
Somehow, however.

[nks]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

But there was such an infa that

Of course - this info in the same wiki :) But what does it have to do with it - do you think you could not fix it?)
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/02/french-navys-monge-missile-range-instrumentation-ship-back-at-sea/


Here, by the way, there is a launch photo.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/06/french-navy-ssbn-le-temeraire-test-fired-m51-slbm-in-operational-conditions/

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

the ship was used to track the M51 in the initial and middle sections of the trajectory

This is the most important thing, and then after pointing warheads they’re already following pure ballistics and tracking can be reduced by simpler means (including other fleet ships, and satellites) - they just try not to let them over populated areas. The United States is allowed to enter from the west coast - it is logical that they are sending to the Pacific, and France, from the SSBN patrol zone, has essentially one choice with slight variations.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: nks

after guidance of warheads, they already follow pure ballistics and tracking of their splashdown can be done using simpler means (including other naval ships, and satellites)

Colleague! The most important thing is not maneuvers, but results! Therefore, everyone looks at how exactly they splashed down (because there are no "holes" (funnels) of BB in the sea, especially if they "maneuvered" before, like ours, for example. But at 6000 km this is still not enough for MK.3, because in the infe there is an assumption that it was M51.3 that was launched on 12.06.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX.

[nks]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

everybody watches how exactly they splashed down

Not only that, but the problem of tracking the entire trajectory is not in the range as such, but in the radio horizon and if you look at the map, you will see that Kuru doesn’t help much either, although maybe they’re also looking at something from there. Range, as you know, depends on the trajectory and apogee. In any case, having a base nearby is good, but in Quiet, among other things, it’s far from the nearest French territory with a potentially maximum of 11000 km. Actually, this is a standard area of ​​such FR launches and general excitement here only indicates public ignorance of the materiel. It’s known that BBs don’t maneuver there - the glider demonstrator will be a bit later

[Boa kaa]

Quote: nks

Range, as you know, depends on the trajectory and apogee.

- Look about the flat trajectories ...
- Then remember about "Frog Jumping" GZ BB in PSA.
- If we see Voronezh at 6000 (in the worst case, at 3700), then the French are probably not far behind. D p = 6000km, so with 3000 they started tracking exactly. At an altitude of 1200 km (before and after breeding the BB), the third stage and blocks can be observed.
So ...

[nks]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

- Look about the flat trajectories ...

Think about how the flat trajectory and other GB GBs with jumps have to do with the event under discussion.

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

If we are Voronezh .... At an altitude of 1200 km (before and after breeding the BB), the third step and blocks can be observed.

Are you completely confused about something - are you at an altitude of 1200 km or a drop point?

[Boa kaa]

Quote: nks

Are you completely confused about something - are you at an altitude of 1200 km or a drop point?

Dear, I dare to remind you that about these things you were the first to start a conversation:

Quote: nks

the problem of tracking the entire trajectory is not in the range as such, but in the radio horizon ... The range, as you know, depends on the trajectory and apogee.

[nks]

So what is not clear to you?
These two of my statements relate to different things.

[mvg]

In the West, it is believed that this is the most advanced SLBM today

How does Trident D5 not suit you? And 14 Ohio at 24 mine. 150+ successful launches

[nks]

This is a test shooting in the framework of maintaining combat readiness, they are done regularly approximately every 3 years

[megadeth]

1812, 1941 /// >> ??? "PARTNERS"
The fascists in Berlin have already surrendered and fled, and the French only in the morning of May 2, following the announcement of the surrender of the German capital: - "the last 30 fighters of the SS Charlemagne battalion (former SS Charlemagne division) out of 300 volunteers who arrived in Berlin left the bunker Reich Chancellery, where no one was left alive except for them ".. Yarilla, in other words, fought to the last drop of blood.
On May 8, 1945, the German Field Marshal Keitel, entering the hall where he must sign the Act on the complete and unconditional surrender of Germany, and seeing there, besides representatives of the Big Three - the USSR, the USA and Great Britain, also representatives of France in military uniform, could not resist phrases: “How ?! Did these ones defeat us too? ”
Therefore, remembering de Gaulle and the French pilots of the Normandie-Niemen regiment (about 400 hundred along with mechanics), we should also know about the French who fought against our people as part of the Wehrmacht, the French Legion of volunteers, repeating the fate of the "Great Army" Napoleon, about hundreds of thousands of Frenchmen including punishers (the “Legion of French Volunteers” fought near Moscow, distinguished himself in punitive operations against Belarusian partisans in 1942. Later, the French Legion was merged with another volunteer formation - “Three-color Legion”, in September 1944 the “Tricolor Legion” base was created by the SS division “Charlemagne”), who fought in various units of the Waffen-SS armed forces and killed our fellow citizens during the Great Patriotic War ... Yarilla.
We must remember that the whole EU fought in the Second World War against us, and if that does not hesitate to repeat the attempt to turn us into slaves.
And so, on the topic, it is necessary to China, NATO countries with "atom" with delivery vehicles + India, Pakistan, Israel to enter at least into the START treaty, more stringent measures from our leadership .... ???

[really]

And as you see, you (personally) have so much money to solve the problem, or to dust it in advance to agree

[Poetry]

Macaron pulled out a cocked hat from the closet,
And silently loaded his double barrel.

[Charik]

in a cocked hat, he climbs his face to his grandmother, and charges the double-barreled gun to the left, because

[Poetry]

Horrible. Here you will begin to stutter.

[Free wind]

This is aging. Although crack, but a twenty-year-old woman looks prettier than duck.

[aviator6768]

By the way, the French are technologically very strong ... I would say - the Germans are stronger than engineering, and the French - by brains .... If you need something for iron - to hamburg (there was a case, they didn’t decide in Wuxi (Shanghai) on the reinforcement mill in Hamburg cost half as much, if for the same avionics - you in Bordeaux (for the 900th bought something ...)

[Dzafdet]

This is not for you ... The French cannot be underestimated. Moreover, they again climbed into NATO ...

[Evil 55]

Towards the Caribbean Sea .... VECTOR RIGHT ..

[petrol cutter]

Honestly .. yes for France, and Britain, in the light of a showdown with the United States, I personally forgot a little.
Right now, the Deutschland will also creep up ... On the Marder BMP ... To make them empty.

[veritas]

The French Navy decided to flex their muscles in the Atlantic. For the first time in a long time, missile tests were conducted using a submarine.

But what, submarines should stand at the pier and not even try to use the weapons on board? What is the regular situation?

[K298rtm]

France - a country of NATO - is a fact. Consequently, all launches are coordinated with the NATO command ((with the owner - the USA). Thus, the French fulfilled their task, and the USA - their own - checked the functioning of the lighting system for the actual purpose.

[mitrich]

And what if not so we play with muscles? And we don’t play it like that, we make launches in the name of world peace. author, are Americans pushing the brain? Also double- triple standards in use?
The French have their own nuclear forces, they are tested. What is there with boiling water?

[Mikhail3]

Who threw the tread on the remote ?!

[AndreyM]

Why in the article is a shot of the launch of the Mace?