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The dispute over the "black boxes": Ukraine is unhappy with the investigation into a plane shot down in Iran

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An investigation into the causes and circumstances of the crash of the Ukrainian airliner, shot down by an Iranian missile in January 2020, is nearing completion. This was stated by Iran’s Deputy Foreign Minister for International and Legal Affairs, Mohsen Baharwand.


Iran acknowledged "human error" and will punish the guilty


Recall that the Boeing 737 of Ukraine International Airlines (UIA) was shot down on January 8, 2020, 3 minutes after takeoff. Killed all 176 people aboard the aircraft.

Three days after the crash, on January 11, 2020, Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif said the plane was shot down by an Iranian missile as a result of a human error. This version was also confirmed by the commander of the Military Space Forces of the Guardian Corps of the Islamic Revolution of Iran, General Amir Ali Hajizade. He said that the operator of the air defense system mistakenly identified the UIA as an enemy target and made the wrong decision to launch a missile at the target. Soon it became known about the detention of an Iranian soldier guilty of making an erroneous decision.

In May 2020, the head of the Judicial and Legal Organization of the Armed Forces of Iran, Shokroll Bahrami, said that his office received many claims from relatives of citizens who died during the disaster, and now all these claims are being considered. People demand compensation from the Iranian side for the death of their relatives and friends, which is also quite understandable and justified.

Kiev required flight recorders


It would seem that in Ukraine and in the world as a whole they should be satisfied - Iran did not deny its involvement in the plane crash, admitted that it was shot down by an Iranian missile and took measures to identify and punish those responsible. But in Kiev they are still unhappy. Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Yevgeny Yenin said that the Iranian statement about the completion of the investigation is not correct, since the decryption of the “black boxes” was not carried out.


Iranian experts inspect the crash site

Ukraine, as you know, has long demanded that the flight recorders of the downed plane be handed over to the Ukrainian side for decryption. The Iranian side, seemingly not refusing to transfer the "black boxes", this issue was significantly delayed. So, back in March 2020, the representative of Iran in the International Civil Organization aviation agreed to transfer the flight recorders to Kiev, but several months have already passed, but this never happened. Naturally, the Ukrainian side is very unhappy with such actions by Iran.

It is strange why, in this case, Ukraine at one time did not hand over the flight recorders of the Boeing that was shot down in the Donbass to the Malaysian side ... Indeed, the Boeing belonged to the airline from Malaysia.

Representatives of the Iranian Foreign Ministry, responding to Kiev, argue that the analysis of "black boxes" in fact will not add anything to the results of the investigation. Indeed: Iran has already admitted its guilt, the perpetrators have been identified, there is no doubt that they will suffer rather harsh punishment, given the specifics of Iranian law and Tehran’s interest in closing the issue with the crash of the liner as soon as possible.

Mohsen Baharwand claims that flight recorders do not contain any important information. At the same time, he expresses his readiness to submit them for analysis to an independent international company not related to the parties involved in the proceedings. At the same time, a few days earlier, the Iranian ambassador to Ukraine, Manouchehr Moradi, noted that Tehran considers Ukraine as a priority country in cooperation on deciphering flight recorders and denied the information circulated in the media about the possible transfer of “black boxes” to France. The main thing that Iran insists on is that “black boxes” should not be “exploited” after they are transferred for decryption.

Thus, as we see, the point in the investigation of all the circumstances of the crash of the liner has not yet been set. Statements by the Iranian side do not satisfy representatives of Ukraine, who most likely act on the orders of the West, which is interested in creating additional problems for Iran. Therefore, it can be predicted that more than once Iran and Ukraine will enter into a dispute over the circumstances of the January plane crash.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 8 June 2020 10: 32 New
    +6
    Ukraine is unhappy with the investigation into a plane shot down in Iran
    Which is to be expected ... since in this case the United States is speaking with the lips of Ukraine
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 8 June 2020 10: 41 New
      0
      Quote: svp67
      Which is to be expected ... since in this case the United States is speaking with the lips of Ukraine

      Mouth yes , exclusively by him, is produced "Вscarlet Нnational Пproduct"in the outskirts ...
      1. Normal ok
        Normal ok 8 June 2020 19: 27 New
        -4
        Quote: Insurgent
        Quote: svp67
        Which is to be expected ... since in this case the United States is speaking with the lips of Ukraine

        Mouth yes , exclusively by him, is produced "Вscarlet Нnational Пproduct"in the outskirts ...

        There, even "by mouth", in the LDNR, it is not produced at all. You live on what you steal from Russia and Ukraine.
    2. NDR-791
      NDR-791 8 June 2020 10: 44 New
      +7
      Kiev needed flight recorders.
      ... In order to prove beyond doubt that the GDP personally launched the rocket ... directly from its bunker am
      1. Ramzes iv
        Ramzes iv 8 June 2020 10: 58 New
        0
        Quote: NDR-791
        Kiev needed flight recorders.
        ... In order to prove beyond doubt that the GDP personally launched the rocket ... directly from its bunker am

        Everything goes to this in order to tear off compensation from Russia as well .. bully
    3. vkl.47
      vkl.47 8 June 2020 10: 57 New
      +9
      Kuev first let him show the records of the Boeing dispatchers that they shot down and then will demand something.
    4. Terenin
      Terenin 8 June 2020 11: 49 New
      +4
      What a strange statement
      Ukraine is unhappy ...
      usually she is always "happy" what
    5. avg
      avg 8 June 2020 14: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      Ukraine is unhappy with the investigation into a plane shot down in Iran
      Which is to be expected ... since in this case the United States is speaking with the lips of Ukraine

      And when was Ukraine at least happy with something? Even when sanctions are imposed on the Russian Federation, they are unhappy - it will not be enough. Even when the IMF and Biden require the population to pay for housing and communal services to increase, they, as true masochists, increase even more.
  2. Blackmokona
    Blackmokona 8 June 2020 10: 39 New
    -2
    I wonder what is in the box that Iran so does not want to decrypt it?
    1. svp67
      svp67 8 June 2020 10: 46 New
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      Quote: BlackMokona
      I wonder what is in the box that Iran so does not want to decrypt it?

      Iran does not want to be manipulated and suddenly "found" something that was not born there ...
      1. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 8 June 2020 12: 16 New
        +4
        Quote: svp67
        Iran does not want to be manipulated and ...

        And they can still be understood: the boxes with MH17 were handed over to an independent, and let's say honestly respected company with a reputation from England .... I might have missed something, can someone tell me - did the decryption results appear somewhere?
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 8 June 2020 12: 41 New
          +4
          Quote: Pete Mitchell
          Quote: svp67
          Iran does not want to be manipulated and ...

          And they can still be understood: the boxes with MH17 were handed over to an independent, and let's say honestly respected company with a reputation from England .... I might have missed something, can someone tell me - did the decryption results appear somewhere?

          TEHRAN, June 8, 2020, 09:02 - REGNUM Iran has almost completed an investigation into the crash of a Ukrainian Boeing in the sky over Tehran, said Iran’s Deputy Foreign Minister for International and Legal Affairs, Mohsen Bakharwand, reports Al Arabiya.

          According to him, the only stage of the investigation was the analysis of the contents of the flight recorders of the downed liner.

          Details: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2974894.html
        2. avg
          avg 8 June 2020 14: 59 New
          +1
          Quote: Pete Mitchell
          I might have missed something, can someone tell me - where did the decryption results appear?

          Probably in the same place as the data from Ukrainian radars and American satellites ... request
    2. loki565
      loki565 8 June 2020 10: 51 New
      +1
      Rather, something might appear there if Ukraine / USA will decrypt
      1. vkl.47
        vkl.47 8 June 2020 11: 00 New
        +6
        The vyshevniks will paste Putin’s voice recording there. And then Gordon with a flash drive rushes to the Hague))
    3. Zeev zeev
      Zeev zeev 8 June 2020 17: 17 New
      -1
      Most likely, data on the hit of the second rocket.
  3. Avior
    Avior 8 June 2020 10: 44 New
    +8
    ... It is strange why, in this case, Ukraine at one time did not transfer the flight recorders of the Boeing downed in Donbass to the Malaysian side ... After all, it was the Malaysian airline that Boeing belonged to.

    The author is not aware, Ukraine did not have these recorders.
    The militias handed over the registrars to the representatives of Malaysia, and Malaysia, in turn, handed them over to the Netherlands.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 8 June 2020 10: 49 New
      +2
      Quote: Avior
      The author is not aware, Ukraine did not have these recorders.

      The author does not own factual material on the topic. yes
      1. Oleg Zorin
        Oleg Zorin 8 June 2020 11: 02 New
        -4
        Set out the correct version.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 8 June 2020 12: 02 New
          +7
          Quote: Avior
          The author is not aware Ukraine did not have these recorders.

          Quote: Insurgent
          The author does not own factual material on the topic.


          Quote: Oleg Zorin
          Set out the correct version.


          " Easy" yes



          DPR militias handed over Boeing black boxes to Malaysian experts

          According to the representative of Malaysia, flight recorders are in good condition

          © RUPTLY / AP / TACC TB
          LONDON, July 22. / Corr. ITAR-TASS Roman Podervyansky. Militias handed over flight recorders of the crashed Boeing to experts - representatives of Malaysia. This was reported by Reuters.

          International experts should receive "black boxes" in spite of what sounds from Kiev. We are not going to take away the "black boxes". We are not going to violate the rules for such cases in the international community
          Sergey Lavrov
          It is reported that the "black boxes" were handed over by the head of the government of the proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, Alexander Borodai, and both sides signed a protocol on this procedure.

          The representative of Malaysia, member of the National Security Council of the country, Colonel Mohamed Sakri, confirmed that the recorders are in good condition. “I see that the black boxes are intact, although a little damaged,” the colonel said, thanking Borodai.

          At the same time, Boroday informed reporters that the train with the bodies of the dead arrived in Donetsk and continued on to Kharkov.


          https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1333118
          1. Oleg Zorin
            Oleg Zorin 9 June 2020 16: 34 New
            +1
            To blame, at first I misunderstood your remark. You immediately needed to post this video.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 9 June 2020 16: 37 New
              +2
              Quote: Oleg Zorin
              To blame, at first I misunderstood your remark. You immediately needed to post this video.

              But on the other hand, you now have factual material on this issue, in a volume that exceeds even the knowledge of the author of the article, with his "gaps" ...
  4. Vadim Zhivov
    Vadim Zhivov 8 June 2020 10: 50 New
    +2
    And when was Ukraine happy with something? Only when someone ... shit .... repeat
    1. Ramzes iv
      Ramzes iv 8 June 2020 11: 00 New
      -1
      Quote: VadimLives
      And when was Ukraine happy with something? Only when someone ... shit .... repeat

      This is what they have been living in for the last five years .. hi
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 8 June 2020 11: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: Ramzes IV
        Quote: VadimLives
        And when was Ukraine happy with something? Only when someone ... shit .... repeat

        This is what they have been living in for the last five years .. hi

        They have a task from the USA to maintain the status quo.
    2. HAM
      HAM 8 June 2020 11: 05 New
      0
      She is then unhappy ..... will not be enough!
      1. Ramzes iv
        Ramzes iv 8 June 2020 12: 07 New
        -3
        Quote: HAM
        She is then unhappy ..... will not be enough!

        Well, after the plunder of everything and everything, they will not be forgiven
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 June 2020 11: 26 New
    -1
    To demand something, to make a claim, to disagree, to file a lawsuit - this is what the Ukrainian side has learned.
    Ukraine, as you know, has long demanded that the flight recorders be handed over ... but several months have passed, but this never happened
    Therefore, it did not happen, because Iran analyzed the situation and realized that it’s better not to transmit anything, because then for the rest of your life you will disentangle what the Ukrainian side will muddle.
    1. Ramzes iv
      Ramzes iv 8 June 2020 12: 09 New
      -3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      To demand something, to make a claim, to disagree, to file a lawsuit - this is what the Ukrainian side has learned.

      Jews in power, what else can I say Squeeze it like a lemon and throw it at the feet of Russia ..
  6. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 8 June 2020 12: 16 New
    0
    Ukraine is unhappy with the investigation into a downed plane


    Oh well, when will Ukraine itself provide real data on a jet shot down over the Donbass? Many countries are unhappy.
  7. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 8 June 2020 12: 33 New
    -2
    someone purposefully substitutes civilian aircraft for air defense strikes ... these someone know the features of these systems ... a classic example in Syria Israel substituted a Russian plane under our own air defense system ... in Israel, a third of the population from the USSR ... probably experts went there too ....
  8. prior
    prior 8 June 2020 12: 44 New
    -2
    The contents of the black boxes are material for possible future accusations and manipulations.
    Iran should not transmit anything to anyone, especially banderlogs.
    Ukraine will rub off ...
    Boomerang knows his business.
  9. Fitter65
    Fitter65 8 June 2020 12: 46 New
    0
    Iran acknowledged "human error" and will punish the guilty
    One can feel the difference between civilized people and "Central Europeans" ...
  10. Evil 55
    Evil 55 8 June 2020 13: 55 New
    -2
    They admitted their guilt, they will pay compensation ... this is Fate, it's useless to play with it. But the Horses, you see, are going to declare another "Heavenly Hundred", as usual, not correlating with either reason or logic ..
  11. Karaul73
    Karaul73 8 June 2020 14: 19 New
    -3
    Quote: rotmistr60
    To demand something, to make a claim, to disagree, to file a lawsuit - this is what the Ukrainian side has learned.
    Ukraine, as you know, has long demanded that the flight recorders be handed over ... but several months have passed, but this never happened
    Therefore, it did not happen, because Iran analyzed the situation and realized that it’s better not to transmit anything, because then for the rest of your life you will disentangle what the Ukrainian side will muddle.

    Are you so sorry for the 3 billion dollars Ukraine has wound up with Gazprom? And Poland still muddied. Get ready.
    1. ANB
      ANB 8 June 2020 14: 35 New
      0
      And what does Iran and Gazprom have to do with it?
  12. Karaul73
    Karaul73 8 June 2020 14: 37 New
    -4
    Quote: ANB
    And what does Iran and Gazprom have to do with it?

    Both those and others so far are not good at competing with lawyers hired by Ukraine. Very, you see, dear. But the good ones.
    1. ANB
      ANB 8 June 2020 16: 05 New
      +2
      . Very, you see, dear

      Ukraine will have to pay lawyers for Iran itself.
  13. Karaul73
    Karaul73 8 June 2020 16: 19 New
    -2
    Quote: ANB
    . Very, you see, dear

    Ukraine will have to pay lawyers for Iran itself.

    America will help, do not hesitate. For such a thing as annoying the Persians, there are a bunch of friends of Ukraine.
  14. Cristall
    Cristall 8 June 2020 17: 52 New
    0
    It is strange why, in this case, Ukraine at one time did not hand over the flight recorders of the Boeing that was shot down in the Donbass to the Malaysian side ... Indeed, the Boeing belonged to the airline from Malaysia.

    it is strange that the authors intentionally distort reality.
    Or the Internet is not available to them ..
    BS MN were not at the disposal of Ukraine.
    Boroday did not represent Ukraine when transferring black boxes. He represented the DPR.
    He handed over to Malaysia. Like the "train of the dead" went from Donetsk to Kharkov. (Bodies)
  15. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 8 June 2020 21: 35 New
    -2
    It is time to nip already the arrogant farmer of the outskirts of diplomacy.
  16. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 9 June 2020 08: 54 New
    -1
    Ukraine needs to attract attention. It doesn't matter how. As soon as they forget it in the information space, problems come up that I don’t want to talk about. Debts, killed, stolen ... A lot of everything that is not desirable to mention, as if all this is not at all.
    So that's it. The recorders will give them, firstly, there will be a "Russian trace" in them for some unknown reason, but you can chat for another six months, and secondly, they will start demanding the left rear wheel from Iran. And also for a long time ...