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On the strengths of the Baltic armies: how Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia will defend themselves

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The attitude to the armed forces of the Baltic states in Russia is traditionally skeptical. Compared to the large and well-armed Russian army, the armed forces of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia look, to put it mildly, frivolous. But they also have their own strengths.


Of course, if we compare the armed forces of the Baltic republics with the armies of such powers as Russia, or, for example, the United States and China, then there’s nothing to talk about. However, it is worth recalling that in the post-war years, the victorious Soviet army could not completely destroy the Baltic “forest brothers” for almost ten years, which caused a lot of problems to the organs of Soviet power and the civilian population.

Territorial defense - the "forest brothers" of our time


If an armed conflict breaks out between any of the Baltic republics and any larger and more militarily powerful state, then all the hopes of Latvians, Lithuanians and Estonians will continue to be "partisan", more precisely, the territorial defense forces.

Thus, in Lithuania, an important component of the armed forces is the Krašto Apsaugos Savanorių pajėgos (KASP) Volunteer Guard Forces. Their number is 5 thousand people. The main task of volunteers in the event of hostilities is the organization of partisan resistance to enemy troops in Lithuania, and in peacetime they organize military training of the population, participate in the liquidation of emergencies and their consequences, in the maintenance of public order and even in peacekeeping operations.

There is a similar structure in Latvia - Zemessardze, that is, “Land Guard”. Like the Lithuanian Territory Protection Forces, the Latvian Zemesardze is part of the national armed forces. It serves 592 military personnel and 10 510 volunteers, while 90% serve for ideological reasons.


The range of tasks to be solved is similar to the Lithuanian Territory Protection Forces - participation in the liquidation of accidents, policing, mobilization work, and, if necessary, the deployment of partisan resistance in the republic. In total, Zemessardze consists of 18 battalions: 3 support battalions, 1 artillery, 1 engineering, 1 air defense, 1 defense defense battalion weapons mass destruction, 10 infantry battalions and 1 training battalion.

Estonia has Kaitseliit, the Estonian Defense League, also part of the armed forces. It numbers about 20 thousand people who are also engaged in military training, primarily for possible partisan operations in the event of invasion of foreign armies in the country.


Pluses of a reserve and the "fired" soldiers


The fact that thousands of ideologically motivated fighters of the territorial defense forces, owning weapons and regularly undergoing training in training camps, can cause a lot of trouble for the enemy army, going over to guerrilla warfare and sabotage operations. Thus, the armed forces of the Baltic republics compensate for their small numbers with a good organization of territorial defense, almost according to the Swiss model. By the way, if we talk about experience, then the average service life in the Latvian Zemessardz is 8 years - it is quite enough to prepare a good partisan.

Another plus is the saving of financial expenses, since volunteers acquire a lot at their own expense. But, of course, there are problems in such formations, especially with discipline and submission.

Here it’s worthwhile to understand the basic paradigm of the military strategy of the Baltic states: not to defeat the enemy, but to exhaust him, to detain him on his territory, holding out until the arrival of reinforcements from the more powerful countries of the North Atlantic Alliance. This explains the increased attention to paramilitary and reserve formations, since regular armies will very likely be crushed quickly enough.

To the honor of the Baltic armies, it should be noted the fact that they care about the "shelling" of their officers and contract soldiers. Despite the fact that the Baltic republics do not have their “hot spots”, they regularly send troops to NATO missions around the world. So, the Estonian military took part in hostilities in Afghanistan, Iraq, in peacekeeping missions in Mali, Kosovo, Lebanon. Latvia sent its soldiers to Iraq, Afghanistan, and even earlier - to Kosovo and Bosnia. The Lithuanian military also took part in operations in Afghanistan, Iraq, Kosovo and Bosnia. It is clear that the "fired" military personnel, especially interacting with the soldiers of the armies of other NATO countries, are of great value to the Baltic armies than the new recruits who were not in the "hot spots".
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  1. alone
    alone 6 June 2020 13: 27 New
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    Особо нужно подчеркивать то,что большинство этих "партизан" являются идейными..Т.е убегать при виде противника не будут..
    П,С. Вообще то это считается "Щвейцарской системой". У них тоже помимо регульярной армии(а она немалая),имеется внушительная база резервистов -партизан..В случае войны за 36 часов армия увеличивается в 3 раза уже подготовленным резервом
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 6 June 2020 13: 29 New
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      On the strengths of the Baltic armies: how Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia will defend themselves

      Article NO о THAN ?

      (попрошу не возбуждаться "особо впечатлительных" модераторов ,имеется ввиду не сама статья,а предполагаемые "сильные стороны" прибалтийских армий)
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 6 June 2020 13: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: lonely
      Вообще то это считается "Щвейцарской системой". У них тоже помимо регульярной армии(а она немалая),имеется внушительная база резервистов -партизан..В случае войны за 36 часов армия увеличивается в 3 раза уже подготовленным резервом


      And after a demonstration of attempts to confront the regular army, he is concentrated in an organized manner at the places of surrender ...
    3. sabakina
      sabakina 6 June 2020 13: 31 New
      +8
      And where was that Swiss army in those two world wars?
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 6 June 2020 13: 44 New
        +8
        Quote: sabakina
        where was that swiss army in those two world wars?

        It is more logical to ask WHAT was (a bank cell for warring parties), and WHERE, and what she did, and so it is clear - sat on the pope exactly.

        Money love silence yes
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 6 June 2020 13: 50 New
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          Well, why do they need us? Enough to feed.
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan 8 June 2020 19: 19 New
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            Now then of course not needed. port infrastructure for trade relations with central Europe is expanding ... problems are being solved bypassing these countries.
            but if relations with central Europe normalize, something will have to be done with these American enclaves between Russia and large European countries.
        2. Oleg Zorin
          Oleg Zorin 6 June 2020 17: 04 New
          +4
          did the same thing as the armies of Sweden, Ireland, Spain, Portugal ...
      2. Adepton
        Adepton 6 June 2020 13: 47 New
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        Quote: sabakina
        And where was that Swiss army in those two world wars?

        Old-timers money ..! Well, who, who but they have welded up on war and crime like no one else. If you open their cellars and accounts .. The world will shudder!
      3. alone
        alone 6 June 2020 14: 04 New
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        Quote: sabakina
        And where was that Swiss army in those two world wars?

        В нейтралитете..Между прочим у Гитлера был план "Танненбаум" для захвата Щвейцарии..Но он отказался от этой затеи..Незнаю почему,но предполагаю что он понял во что может вляпатся в горах против многочисленной армии горных партизан
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 6 June 2020 14: 07 New
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          Quote: lonely
          Между прочим у Гитлера был план "Танненбаум" для захвата Щвейцарии..Но он отказался от этой затеи..Незнаю почему,но предполагаю что он понял во что может вляпатся в горах против многочисленной армии горных партизан


          Do you believe that the Führer, without drifting against, for example, France and its allied UK, saved before Switzerland (meaning Western Europe)? belay
          1. alone
            alone 6 June 2020 14: 19 New
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            Quote: Insurgent
            Do you believe that the Fuhrer, without drifting against, for example, France and its allied Great Britain, saved before Switzerland (

            Do you understand what it means to fight in the mountains with a millionth army trained to lead it? Tank wedges are impossible there, there is no room for maneuver .. The Führer was certainly touched, but completely untouched people were sitting at his headquarters in order to climb there in the midst of 1943
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 6 June 2020 14: 26 New
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              Quote: lonely
              Do you understand what it means to fight in the mountains with a millionth army trained to lead it? Tank wedges are impossible there, there is no room for maneuver .. The Führer was certainly touched, but completely untouched people were sitting at his headquarters in order to climb there in the midst of 1943

              Я понял,что вы находитесь под "впечатлением",а точнее пребываете в иллюзии "непобедимой швейцарской модели"...
              Stay there, I will not raid your well-established cozy little world.
              1. alone
                alone 6 June 2020 14: 30 New
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                Quote: Insurgent
                Я понял,что вы находитесь под "впечатлением",а точнее пребываете в иллюзии "непобедимой швейцарской модели"...
                Stay there, I will not raid your well-established cozy little world.

                Did you fight in the mountains? Do you know what it means to fight at an altitude of 4000m and higher, where it’s difficult to even breathe .. These are not steppes and plains for wide maneuver .. In most cases, this is a two-lane road between the mountains, where the whole army is tens of kilometers .. And where each turn is a real 100% ambush .. Try to fight in such conditions, and then grin
                1. bk0010
                  bk0010 6 June 2020 20: 40 New
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                  Why fight? What is delicious in these mountains? Disrupt their supply - they themselves will die out. And they will try to come down - to meet on the plain, in the usual conditions and prepared.
                  1. Captain Nemo
                    Captain Nemo 9 June 2020 01: 22 New
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                    I wonder what food supplies are stored in these mountains. If as in Fink - for a decade?
                2. Russian jacket
                  Russian jacket 8 June 2020 04: 33 New
                  +4
                  Well, in that case it was much more stupid to climb the Wehrmacht into Yugoslavia. (Serbia). But he climbed and then fought in the mountains with the partisans. Hitler most likely did not capture Switzerland because it was already influenced by Germany.
                3. Jager
                  Jager 8 June 2020 07: 20 New
                  +7
                  And what was the German mountain shooter doing in the Elbrus region at an altitude of 3500 meters? Played checkers with the Soviet units or fought the hardest battles in the mountains?
              2. Keyser soze
                Keyser soze 6 June 2020 14: 53 New
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                а точнее пребываете в иллюзии "непобедимой швейцарской модели"...


                Switzerland, by all categories the most militarized nation, is up to the orbit of Mars.
                Total war, everything is mined, runways in tunnels, automatic weapons in every house, obligatory and very serious preparation for everyone, and in every year. Power encourages the purchase of assault rifles, its own production of weapons, bomb shelters for total population and so on.

                There is not the Wehrmacht, not the Red Army, but Darth Vader will break his teeth. laughing
                1. alone
                  alone 6 June 2020 15: 10 New
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                  Quote: Keyser Soze
                  Switzerland, by all categories the most militarized nation,

                  That's it .. Instead of getting to know the very system of this model, many here are pathetically clever ...
                2. Nosgoth
                  Nosgoth 6 June 2020 18: 07 New
                  +1
                  Assault rifles are formidable.
                3. strannik1985
                  strannik1985 6 June 2020 20: 56 New
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                  There is not the Wehrmacht, not the Red Army, but Darth Vader will break his teeth.

                  By June 1940, almost the entire border of Switzerland was in the zone of German influence, Switzerland provided itself with 50 percent of the food.
                  They paid - the so-called Swiss-German clearing agreement (by the summer of 1941 850 million francs), allowed transit (until 1944), traded and exchanged values ​​for currency.
                4. ZAV69
                  ZAV69 7 June 2020 20: 43 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Keyser Soze
                  There is not the Wehrmacht, not the Red Army, but Darth Vader will break his teeth.

                  Only this army last fought in the 18th century, and even then, not the army, but the Swiss hired companies. So it is likely that all this steepness will be scattered after the first howitzer shell is torn.
                5. Russian jacket
                  Russian jacket 8 June 2020 04: 35 New
                  +2
                  How did Serbia differ from Switzerland in these aspects? The number of banks?
                6. Charik
                  Charik 10 June 2020 22: 03 New
                  -1
                  a couple of apples and there isn’t that Switzerland — all the cans with cash and precious metal will melt
              3. danske75
                danske75 7 June 2020 13: 59 New
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                Так вы "бередите" штож там...план у Гитлера был? Был. Гитлер (кстате, с 15 дивизиями из Италии по плану) напал? Ненапал.
                How many Luftwaffe planes did the Swedes bring down, were they interested in?
                Take an interest in how their Commander-in-Chief Henry Guisan said that if during warriors an order is surrendered, then such an order cannot be heard.
                А про балтов и естонцев...ето только про "партизан" написанно, приплюсуите регулярные армии тех стран которые модернизируются уже 5 лет (только 5 лет), приплюсуите литовских стрелков которые неупомянуты (10 000), активны а не бумажны резерв (только в Литве около 25 000) ну и с пафосом дальше толкуите про лимитрофов.
                1. Charik
                  Charik 10 June 2020 22: 05 New
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                  and whoever fights with them in melee will not fight you 40s, bang a rocket and blow off the Latvians, bang another and Estonians too
            2. MstislavHrabr
              MstislavHrabr 6 June 2020 19: 05 New
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              In the fight against partisans, you just need to relocate civilians from there (for a while), since there are few of them in the Baltic states (and we have a lot of Siberia), and there will also be the opportunity to talk and figure out who didn’t allow speaking Russian, who demolished monuments to Russian soldiers ?! And then beat everything from the air that stirs and shines warmly ... Gore in the Baltic states a cat cried ... Then the mopping-up is all ... You can bring back educated and wiser citizens. I hope the Baltic states will not bring us to white heat. And then, after all, the Russian people are of course patient ...
              1. alone
                alone 6 June 2020 19: 15 New
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                Quote: MstislavHrabr
                In the fight against partisans, you just need to relocate civilians from there (for a while), since there are few of them in the Baltic states (and we have a lot of Siberia), and there will also be an opportunity to talk and figure out: who did not allow speaking Russian, who demolished monuments ?! And then beat everything from the air that stirs and shines warmly ... Horus in the Baltic states, the cat cried ... Then the mopping up is all ... I hope the Baltic states will not bring us to white heat. And then, after all, the Russian people are of course patient ...

                Mountains is a conversation about Switzerland .. In the Baltic States, another topography .. And as for patience, if the world responded to every bunch, all the surviving people would run with spears and stones
                1. MstislavHrabr
                  MstislavHrabr 6 June 2020 19: 30 New
                  +2
                  Partisan war would not last long with their topography and our thermal imagers
              2. vindigo
                vindigo 7 June 2020 14: 56 New
                +2
                Yes. I also wanted to write this. Cut off from the supply and support of the population. Then out of hunger will come out to give up. You don’t particularly eat in the forest.
            3. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 6 June 2020 22: 31 New
              +3
              Quote: lonely
              Do you understand what it means to fight in the mountains with the millionth army trained to lead it? Tank wedges are impossible there, there is no room for maneuver ..The Führer was certainly touched, but in his headquarters there were by no means untouched people,to climb there in the midst of 1943

              Well, yes, yes .... Why are they then flooded in the Caucasus?
              1. alone
                alone 7 June 2020 01: 10 New
                -2
                They needed oil ... in Switzerland, it isn’t available .. tanks and airplanes cannot be filled with cheese
            4. Grits
              Grits 7 June 2020 02: 12 New
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              Quote: lonely
              Do you understand what it means to fight in the mountains with a millionth army trained to lead it? Tank wedges are impossible there, there is no room for maneuver.

              The Germans also had good mountain rifle units. It is enough to recall how hard it was for us in the North Caucasus. I think that a great Switzerland with all its millionth army with mountain training would be swept away by Hitler in two. Apparently, he was guided by other thoughts when he abandoned this thought. And the eastern front was the most important factor for this, here you are right.
              1. Captain Nemo
                Captain Nemo 9 June 2020 01: 46 New
                +2
                And what's the point of conquering Switzerland? Oil, ore, no fields. But you will have to lose a lot of time and valuable resources for the seizure of a small one. Yes, if the Germans had captured either Stalingrad or Baku, the Red Army would not have lasted long without oil products. Immediately, Japan and Turkey would enter the war with the USSR. After the defeat of the USSR, Albion would have lasted no more than a year. After that, Switzerland as a ripe fruit would fall into Hitler’s hands without a fight. Hitler and his generals were not fools. Stalingrad was the key to the entire 2nd World War.
          2. ppgt90
            ppgt90 9 June 2020 10: 03 New
            +1
            Полная галиматья. Гитлер не тронул Швейцарию по одной просто причине. Швейцария - это банк для мировой элиты. Гитлер получал помощь от США, высокопоставленных особ Великобритании, Французского бизнеса. В общем география вливаний в нацистскую Германию весьма впечатляющая. Ведь Германия была целенаправленно подготовлена и направлена на СССР.. А если бы Гитлер полез оккупировать Швейцарию, то он лишился бы помощи от своих спонсоров. У самой то Германии потенциал был далеко не ах. Глупо думать, что это Гитлер затеял войну. Как бы не так. Эту войну ему "затеяли". В итоге Гитлер капут, а те кто затеял в сладком шоколаде. Кстати. США стали "мировым лидером" только благодаря Второй Мировой Войне. В этот же момент США и "задвинули" Великобританию. Ну а о остальных странах просто сказать нечего. Единственной страной, успешно противостоящей экспансии США был Советский Союз. Хочу напомнить, что ВСЯ ЕВРОПА до сих пор находится под оккупацией США, равносильно как и Япония и ряд других стран.
        2. itis
          itis 9 June 2020 15: 49 New
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          no need for Hitler as an independent figure. he is also an extortioner of certain financial circles. most likely the Rockefellers with which Krupp was associated. the plan is a plan and the sponsor is the sponsor. neutral Switzerland was needed. and the Baltic states have one hope for NATO unity.
        3. nickname7
          nickname7 9 June 2020 22: 08 New
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          план "Танненбаум" для захвата Щвейцарии

          You don’t have much knowledge, you definitely didn’t study at the General Staff Academy. Fools are not taken there.
          There is such a thing as neutral territory, where you can sell the loot, buy what you need from Ford, relax, talk with representatives of enemy countries, etc.
          In this capacity, Switzerland provided more benefits than captured.
          1. alone
            alone 10 June 2020 20: 40 New
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            Quote: nickname7
            you definitely didn’t study at the academy of the general staff.

            No, I didn’t study .. I didn’t just have time
            Quote: nickname7
            There is such a thing as neutral territory, where you can sell the loot, buy what you need from Ford, relax, talk with representatives of enemy countries, etc.

            А я разве твердил обратное?Но у них действительно существовал план захвата и это факт..Более того,существовал план "Поларфукс"-захват Щвеции,тоже нейтральной страны,которая имела достаточно хорошие отношения с рейхом
        4. Abel
          Abel 11 June 2020 11: 16 New
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          Quote: lonely
          I don’t know why, but I suppose that he understood what he might plod in the mountains against the large army of mountain partisans

          Rather, the question was about maintaining an enclave for reconnaissance and storage of money
      4. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 7 June 2020 12: 52 New
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        Quote: sabakina
        And where was that Swiss army in those two world wars?

        I sat on the stove.
    4. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 6 June 2020 13: 34 New
      +3
      for sure. will return from Europe from earnings and forward to defend their homeland. in all this there is one but a very big trouble — and who is going to invade them at all? this is not a French movie with the name in my call of the wolf where our army already invades Finland for some reason) that she forgot this division there and what they did not expect in the film)))
    5. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 6 June 2020 13: 52 New
      +6
      Absolutely correct comment. In no case should partisanship be discounted.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 6 June 2020 22: 38 New
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        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Absolutely correct comment. In no case should partisanship be discounted.

        This would be true, if not for one thing ... Their main enemy, under a star-striped flag, has long since taken root, and we don’t need them from the word at all. Against whom are they going to partisan there?
        1. Abel
          Abel 11 June 2020 11: 17 New
          +1
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          . Their main enemy under a star-striped flag, they have long since taken root

          Not an enemy, but a breadwinner. Now the EU will cease to feed them, so from hunger where only Togoleo will not climb
    6. Berkut752
      Berkut752 6 June 2020 14: 22 New
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      In modern warfare, THERMOBARIC SATELLITE GUIDED shells will be used against partisanEn.
    7. knn54
      knn54 6 June 2020 15: 02 New
      +1
      Омар,меня терзают смутные подозрения,что немало из этих "идейных" или их родственников имеют бизнес в РФ.
      As for the Swiss, it was their infantry in the Middle Ages that finally buried the concept of the knightly army.
      And the Vatican’s guard is made up of Swiss.
      In 1939, the Armed Forces personnel totaled almost 430000 people. Switzerland was already famous for its own artillery, anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons.
      The Germans would be exhausted cool.
      By the way, during the French company there were several skirmishes in the air, which always ended with the victory of the Swiss pilots. Of course, the loss of aircraft.
      1. alone
        alone 6 June 2020 17: 37 New
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        Hi Nikolay. You are absolutely right. Apart from being a country of banks, cheese and watches, Switzerland has one of the most powerful armies in Europe .. And this is just a fact .. The country's army and geography is the key to their neutrality.
        Quote: knn54
        что немало из этих "идейных" или их родственников имеют бизнес в РФ.

        Немало "идейных" из России также имеют свой бизнес за кордоном..Если отбросить страны и национальность,действительно с идейными противниками воевать намного сложно
        1. Phantom 104
          Phantom 104 6 June 2020 19: 30 New
          -1
          army on technical indicators they have at the level of the us army of the early 80s, except
        2. Russian jacket
          Russian jacket 8 June 2020 04: 37 New
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          Rather, banks. This is a great power compared to the army.
      2. Moore
        Moore 7 June 2020 07: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: knn54
        Омар,меня терзают смутные подозрения,что немало из этих "идейных" или их родственников имеют бизнес в РФ.

        I will illustrate your suspicions with a couple of examples.
        1. The opinion of my friend at school. So, a marginal type man, a handyman in cottages for Russian-Belarusian-Ukrainian semi-rich men:
        -If it starts, the machine in the river and on the Latvian-Belarusian border ...
        2. Главный нацик латвийской Юрмалы, тот что 9 мая в своей харчевне "Куриньш" не стал обслуживать пару с георгиевским/гвардейскими ленточками - его сестрица вполне себе непринужденно работает в санатории "Янтарный берег", что находится в собственности Администрации Президента РФ.
        As for the effectiveness of the partisan movement in very limited territories in the era of drones, even the cheapest of which are equipped with infrared cameras, there is something to ponder ...
        1. Aag
          Aag 8 June 2020 12: 12 New
          +1
          "на латвийско-белорусскую границу..."
          Where is it?
          1. Moore
            Moore 8 June 2020 15: 49 New
            +2
            Daugavpils region-Vitebsk region will go?
            Or a claim to writing? I am writing in accordance with the rules of the great and mighty.
            1. Aag
              Aag 8 June 2020 19: 17 New
              +1
              All true. hi
              ... Already began to forget: Daugavpils-Braslav, Kraslava-Verkhnedvinsk.
              I have no complaints about writing, thanks for the answer.
              1. Moore
                Moore 10 June 2020 14: 25 New
                +1
                Daugavpils-Dvinsk-Dinaburg-even earlier Borisoglebsk-very early Negwin.
                Kraslava-Kraslava, Kraslavl-Kraslau.
                Something like this ...
                1. Aag
                  Aag 10 June 2020 19: 17 New
                  +1
                  Спасибо за почву для развития,самообразования.Заинтересовало.К своему стыду,-глубина познаний ограничилась Борисоглебском(х/ф"Бумбараш",-"...пароль знаешь?).Переименование заинтересовало в процессе перечитывания Пикуля спустя 30+ лет...А ведь родился, 22 года прожил в Риге!Спасибо!
    8. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 6 June 2020 17: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: lonely
      П,С. Вообще то это считается "Щвейцарской системой".

      Скорее "Скандинавской", по типу "Хемверна"...да и скандинавы ближе к прибалтам и климат похожий...
      The task of such irregular formations is to free the regular army during the war from auxiliary functions (regulating traffic, guarding the air force and naval base / air defense, interning prisoners of war, etc.), as well as assisting regular forces in the fight against air and sea landing, enemy RDGs. ...
      They also have, in addition to the regular army (and it is not small)

      Swiss Armed Forces are small.
      Back in 2003, the country's citizens voted in favor of the military reform “Army of the XNUMXst Century,” in accordance with which the number of armed forces is being reduced, by 2016, their total number was to be reduced to 100 thousand people.

      https://topwar.ru/116785-armiya-shveycarii-bronepoezd-na-zapasnom-puti.html
      There are no self-defense forces like the Scandinavian or Baltic ones in Switzerland, the entire mobilization reserve is intended for manning / understaffing the linear parts of the armed forces, as well as for replenishing losses in manpower ...
    9. Gato
      Gato 6 June 2020 19: 20 New
      +3
      In addition to the regular army, they also have

      In addition to the regular army, there are mountains in Switzerland, and in the mountains there is a system of shelters and bunkers, which not every nuclear-powered battalion will take. In the Baltics, as far as I know, there are no mountains and jungle, and partisans can only be found there on the Internet.
    10. Terenin
      Terenin 6 June 2020 19: 51 New
      +6
      Quote: lonely
      большинство этих "партизан" являются идейными

      ну и что это за современная западная "цивилизованная" жизнь с постоянной мыслью - убежать в лес request and there, supposedly we will resist winked
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  3. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 6 June 2020 13: 32 New
    +5
    Well, who needs them ??????? Feed them again ??????? It would be nothing to attack
    1. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 6 June 2020 15: 11 New
      -9
      Feed them again ???????


      Lipchanin .... With your stunning economy and standard of living, do not really feed anyone. To them, the EU will only pour out at least 10 billion euros, in addition to other money, to eliminate the consequences of coronavirus. And this is all the free help. You can’t dump your Belarusi a billion or two so that they rise, but gather to feed the tribalt. He laughed ....

      Even more - the EU gives free aid to the Western Balkans in the amount of 3 billion euros - this is Serbia, Kosovo, Cerna Gora, Macedonia. So, to correct their economics, after the coronavirus. And do not whine that feeds someone. Separately 750 billion for EU countries.

      Where are you in this picture, are you our breadwinner? laughing
      1. iouris
        iouris 6 June 2020 18: 14 New
        +4
        Are you eating money there ?! Money will end soon.
        Бывшие республики экономически и культурно развивались только в СССР, где был общий рынок. Уровень и качество жизни в СССР были довольно высокими, а в колониях они высокими быть не могут. Германия и США не создают рынки сбыта для "бывших", совсем наоборот. Ну да ладно. Скоро всё сами увидим. Думаю, увидим уничтожение "среднего класса".
        1. Keyser soze
          Keyser soze 6 June 2020 20: 55 New
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          Money will end soon.


          And not soon and will not end :) This is just a myth, but on the page of the European Commission there is a complete infa.

          Германия и США не создают рынки сбыта для "бывших", совсем наоборот


          As an example, we exported to Germany (2019) engineering products, pharmaceuticals, electronics and the chemical industry for 9 billion euros. And we have a positive export balance of 320 million euros. So the markets create and how ....

          Думаю, увидим уничтожение "среднего класса".


          А вот ето статистическая правда. Со времен "рейганомики", середины 80-тых, неолиберализм убивает средний клас везде по миру и даже в тех же Щатах и Западной Европе. Ето кончится смутами и может быть войнами.
          1. iouris
            iouris 6 June 2020 23: 56 New
            +1
            Quote: Keyser Soze
            This will end in turmoil and may be wars.

            Foreboding of civil wars with a surplus and sales markets - how to explain this? It does not grow together.
      2. seagull
        seagull 6 June 2020 18: 37 New
        +1
        "Если человека накормить рыбой, он будет сыт один раз, а если научить его рыбачить, то он будет сыт много раз."
        1. bk0010
          bk0010 6 June 2020 20: 42 New
          +2
          Quote: seagull
          "Если человека накормить рыбой, он будет сыт один раз, а если научить его рыбачить, то он будет сыт много раз."
          Call the man Satiated and he will be Satisfied all his life!
      3. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 10 June 2020 02: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        The EU gives free aid to the West ... And it does not whine that it feeds someone. Separately 750 billion for EU countries.

        After reading your koment it seemed that he was again on political information, only with a tolerant European bias. You so firmly believe in Esov unity that it’s even funny: where did you see him? When creating a migration crisis, Italy was left alone with the problem? Probably when they rushed together on a team to water Yugoslavia, setting a record for making a “joint” decision, they agreed on the day. You do not do propaganda at home?
  4. Doccor18
    Doccor18 6 June 2020 13: 40 New
    0
    strategies of the Baltic states: not to defeat the enemy, but to exhaust him, to detain him on his territory ...

    Well, well ... Say exhaust ...
  5. Pardus
    Pardus 6 June 2020 13: 44 New
    +3
    But they also have their own strengths.

    laughing
    in the postwar years, the victorious Soviet army could not completely destroy the Baltic “forest brothers” for almost ten years

    It’s difficult to fight with partisans. However could armed resistance local fascists break.
  6. nnz226
    nnz226 6 June 2020 13: 56 New
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    1) Китайская армия на шпротные лимитрофы не нападёт, России эти "страны" и даром не нужны!
    2) Сравнивать антипартизанскую войну с "лесными братьями" в конце 40-х годов 20 века, когда СССР был в полуразрушенном состоянии и современные методы таковой - нонсенс! Сейчас та же Литва не есть часть СССР, а враждебное государство, и, если, таки, Россия её захватит, что мешает погрузить население в телячьи вагоны и отправить на Южный берег моря Лаптевых? И я тогда посмотрю, надолго ли "мотивации" литовских "партизанен" хватит?! Аксиома: без поддержки местного населения любое партизанское движение глохнет почти моментально! Про современные системы поиска людишек в лесу и схронах даже не говорю...
    1. danske75
      danske75 7 June 2020 14: 10 New
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      So immersed, immersed. They would not load, then not until the mid-60s but until the 80s they would partisan.
      1. nnz226
        nnz226 7 June 2020 21: 30 New
        0
        10% were loaded - after all, the extraneous sprat limitrophs were then considered the Soviet republics, and now there will be no moral or material restrictions!
  7. Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 6 June 2020 14: 01 New
    +1
    Why the hell personally did these tribals come to me ??? I do not know?
    1. MstislavHrabr
      MstislavHrabr 6 June 2020 19: 31 New
      0
      Гадят нам прибалты и от этого все больше и больше нас боятся, потому как понимают, что рано или поздно ответить за это придется. И от этого еще больше гадят... Поэтому думаю, что "волшебный пендель" с нашей стороны очень бы помог налаживанию конструктивной позиции руководства прибалтийских стран...
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  9. rocket757
    rocket757 6 June 2020 14: 38 New
    +5
    Let's not be about ... funny.
  10. iouris
    iouris 6 June 2020 14: 40 New
    +4
    Ну служат "по идейным". Однако, во-первых, на них никто не собирается нападать, во-вторых,.... Достаточно "во-первых". Поэтому заголовок должен носить иной смысл, например: "Нацгвардии сопредельных государств, их задачи, численность и вооружение".
  11. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 6 June 2020 14: 47 New
    +4
    Партизанщина, на которую рассчитывают прибалты - это слабое место армии, а не сильное. Войны, начиная Вьетнамом можно характеризовать как партизанские. У РФ громадный опыт таких войн - Афган, Таджикистан, Северный Кавказ, Сирия... так что уже есть современный опыт, что бы не повторять ошибки СССР в борьбе с бандеровцами и лесными братьями. Лучшее для Прибалтов - нейтралитет по образу швейцарцев, шведов, финов. А НАТО - это уже война за свою выгоду, в которой прибалты - "сакральная жертва западной демократии"....
    1. Retvizan 8
      Retvizan 8 6 June 2020 19: 52 New
      +1
      They cannot afford to maintain neutrality, because they want to eat! And having joined the NATO gang, they count on handouts from the West.
      Only no one is going to attack them, since in the conditions of modern warfare their territory has lost special strategic importance.
      And economically, we can easily do without their transit and ports.
  12. Fitter65
    Fitter65 6 June 2020 15: 12 New
    +7
    However, it is worth recalling that in the post-war years the victorious Soviet army could not completely destroy the Baltic “forest brothers” for almost ten years,
    So the Victorious Soviet Army did not fight with the forest brothers. This contingent was fought by other competent authorities.
  13. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 6 June 2020 15: 28 New
    -1
    On the strengths of the Baltic armies: how Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia will defend themselves
    Another owl on the globe, well, well. No. And who said that for every jerk you need to run and persuade to give up? We are in Europe, just as Serbia reptiles bombed and shot down a BP with depleted uranium, so we can process and sweep the Baltic states, forest brothers, you might get to the bottom of your ancestors. angry
  14. zombirusrev
    zombirusrev 6 June 2020 16: 41 New
    +1
    They will not defend themselves against us in any way, because we will not attack them, and if they are used as a bridgehead, then we ourselves are to blame ....
  15. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 6 June 2020 16: 42 New
    0
    Given the progress in UAVs and modern thermal imaging and infrared technology, as well as the development of all this game with cameras and face recognition - I think that soon the partisans will come to an end, almost to zero.
    Вопрос в ее ликвидации просто будет стоять в категории "цена" и в организационных возможностях тех,кто будет этим заниматься. Если речь идет о Афганистане , где люди плодятся как кроли и детишки 10 лет уже могут пострелять-с, человеческая жизнь и имущественное право мало что значит - это одно , там посложнее. Пока. А если мы берем Европейскую страну - тем более Прибалтику с ее "населенностью" , рельефом и степенью картографированности - не долго попартизанили бы там в 21 веке мне кажется.
  16. ser56
    ser56 6 June 2020 17: 02 New
    0
    Even the partisans are preparing for the last war ... request
    Modern anti-partisan opportunities have increased dramatically - technology has gone far ahead repeat
    Now you don’t really run through the forests - UAVs with a radar, a thermal imager can direct artifacts in real time, and they can treat them with a bomb ... request
    So you have to hide in the cities ... request
    Yes, and why occupy them? A blow to power plants and fuel reserves and that’s all ... the collapse of the economy hi
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 6 June 2020 19: 21 New
      0
      Quote: ser56
      Yes, and why occupy them?

      And then Stalin needed them only because they represented a convenient corridor for the march of Germans from East Prussia directly to Leningrad. That is why the Germans nevertheless managed to take advantage of this corridor, although Soviet troops were deployed there, this is another topic. And nowadays, the war in Europe, if it begins, will end sooner than NATO can deploy tank forces to strike Peter through the Baltic. Polish obsolete and under-modernized T-72 and the same old Leopard models? Not even funny.
  17. Junior Private
    Junior Private 6 June 2020 17: 39 New
    -1
    To be proud of their partisan detachments, and not full-fledged armed forces - this is typically Baltic. Modern peaceful democratically carpet bombing completely eliminates national-partisan combat units as such. There is another question - why do you have to tug on the whiskers of the Baltic tigers? There are no polymers there, the economy was killed, and doctors do not recommend eating sprats. And the fact that Vilnius was renamed Vilnius is that the Polish partisans are offended.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 6 June 2020 19: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: Junior Private
      Doctors do not recommend sprats

      There is an American company Season, which sells canned fish, in particular sardines. It is considered High end, i.e. good and expensive. They have a whole line of products. Below priced sardines in water and plain olive oil, made in Morocco. And the most expensive option in Extra Virgin First Cold Press is the olive oil Product of Latvia. The same sprats, only seemingly a little less smoked (but still smoked), and the specific name of the fish is sprattus sprattus, i.e. sprats. And advertised as healthy food. By the way, it's delicious.
      1. Junior Private
        Junior Private 6 June 2020 19: 35 New
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        Doctors say (I referred to their opinion) that because of smoking or for some other reason, carcinogens form in sprats that do not add health. Whether it is true or not, I don’t know and don’t want to know, but I will eat sprats, just like I did in the days of the USSR. The truth more began to like Kaliningrad (?) Smelt.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 6 June 2020 19: 41 New
          0
          There are a lot of smelt, even in America, but there is only one smelt, Neva. Included in the list of things in America that I can only nostalgic for. The local is not at all, and they do not sell fresh frozen.
          1. Junior Private
            Junior Private 6 June 2020 19: 46 New
            +1
            There is also Sakhalin, it is three times larger than the Neva. Tasty.
            1. Revolver
              Revolver 6 June 2020 20: 19 New
              0
              Quote: Junior Private
              There is also Sakhalin, it is three times larger than the Neva. Tasty.

              I don’t know, I haven’t tried it. They didn’t sell it in Leningrad (I don’t know how in St. Petersburg, I still left Leningrad), and even less so in America. I believe you with pleasure.
  18. Topol M
    Topol M 6 June 2020 18: 20 New
    0
    Ready-made funeral teams, what partisanship in a modern war, absurdity! The author sings the praises of the Baltic Armed Forces. I studied in Riga at a military school under the USSR, now every year I visit the Baltic states 6-7 times and have seen enough of this army, especially equipment, scooters and mopeds will soon be in service
  19. seagull
    seagull 6 June 2020 18: 43 New
    -1
    About the partisans, it's funny ... Where will the caches be doing? They cut down the forest, but did not plant a new one ... UAVs with thermal imagers will calculate all in two ...
    1. Aag
      Aag 8 June 2020 18: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: seagull
      About the partisans, it's funny ... Where will the caches be doing? They cut down the forest, but did not plant a new one ... UAVs with thermal imagers will calculate all in two ...

      Why is there such information about the forest? But the UAVs of the Federal Forestry Agency in Siberia do not notice the bald spots that are already shining on Google maps.
      1. seagull
        seagull 10 June 2020 16: 55 New
        0
        First-hand, many acquaintances live there (Baltic republics). Yes, and where does the forest protection, when talking about combat drones ...
        1. Aag
          Aag 10 June 2020 19: 07 New
          0
          Similarly, he was born, lived for 22 years. drinks
          The amount cut down there (Latvia), and here (only the Irkutsk region) is not comparable, even taking into account the size of the territories.
          По беспилотникам.Не нравится мне шапкозакидательство.Слишком часто русские за этот "грешок" платили несоразмерно много.Не знаю характеристик,возможностей "боевых беспилотников" современной России(хотя,наверное правильнее говорить о разведывательно-ударных),но,когда местные СМИ "орали":" у лесоохраны появились всемогущие БП,чёрным лесорубам кирык!....Файлы не умею загружать,-двери подъездов объявлениями заклеены,-соберем подписи против незаконной рубки леса(в черте города!)
          To our sheep ... Are you sure of the capabilities of domestic UAVs? Do you know them? Open sources have been issuing information since the USSR (!)
          ... Yes, in general, it’s all a gon! Other methods must be worked on! (IMHO) Ukraine has not taught what is needed in the bud. Caucasus. Central Asia, is a separate issue .. hi
          1. seagull
            seagull 10 June 2020 19: 25 New
            0
            The article examined the topic of the likely confrontation between the forces of the Baltic states and partisan tactics and the modern army of Russia ... My opinion is that partisans in a modern war will not be able to resist (only one-time actions and terror of the population) ...
            Regarding the work of our drones in modern conditions, study reports from Syria (the most striking example).
            PS And where is Siberia and the black lumberjacks ??? If you are very concerned about the topic of deforestation, write an article and we will talk .... hi
  20. Revolver
    Revolver 6 June 2020 18: 57 New
    0
    2 cool cowboys are riding along the prairie. Towards the third cowboy, of some kind of a shabby look, on a half-dead nag. Parted. One says to the other:
    “Do you know who that is?”
    - Not.
    - This is Elusive Joe.
    - What, and nobody can catch this shit?
    “But who needs it?”
    .
    So these sprats are also all invincible.
  21. fiberboard
    fiberboard 6 June 2020 19: 32 New
    +1
    The technique is now different, and it’s unlikely that a war will be waged by partisan methods, as in the Great Patriotic War. And there is no Siberian taiga and Belarusian forests and swamps. A maximum of one, two attacks and will be detected and destroyed.
    1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 June 2020 21: 38 New
      0
      Quote: fiberboard
      The technique is now different, and it’s unlikely that a war will be waged by partisan methods, as in the Great Patriotic War

      Therefore, partisanism is reborn into underground. You can also cover it with modern technologies (see the post about Sobyanin below), but it’s more difficult.
  22. Boris ⁣ Shaver
    Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 June 2020 20: 54 New
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    all the hopes of Latvians, Lithuanians and Estonians will continue to be “partisan”

    На такой случай им Собянина коммендантом - он каждого там приложение заставит поставить, которое будет в самый неожиданный момент заставлять тебя делать селфи. И если на селфи ты в кустах, или вовсе его не сделал - штрафовать тебя нещадно. А самым злостным нарушителям - чип в бочину и постоянное отслеживание. Через пару месяцев вся "партизанщина" развалится от общего обнищания и "изоляции" самых активных. Собянин знает как управлять враждебно настроенными народами.
  23. IL-64
    IL-64 6 June 2020 21: 29 New
    -1
    Тот, кто написал этот бред, плохо представляет себе современные возможности инструментального поиска "партизан" и их баз.
    1. gumas
      gumas 9 June 2020 00: 08 New
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      This is not a computer game. have you forgotten Chechnya? was everything easy and simple?
      1. IL-64
        IL-64 12 June 2020 11: 24 New
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        In the yard 2020. And the army is already different. And there are no mountains in the Baltic. And the Arabs with their mercenaries and dough for the Baltic states will not fit. And the borders in Europe are far from arbitrary.
  24. Pushkar
    Pushkar 6 June 2020 21: 48 New
    +4
    Я хорошо знаю Латвию и хотел бы поделиться своими соображениями на тему "лесных братьев". Первоначально это "движение" возникло из остатков курляндской группировки, рассеявшихся по лесам. Среди них было много людей с большим боевым опытом и имевших военное образование. Поэтому и было поначалу тяжело ликвидировать их, тем более, что местное население было частично запугано "ночной властью", а частично поддерживало их. Но в 50-х годах была ликвидирована кормовая база "партизан" - хутора, а в населённых пунктах не попрячешься, и "движение"сошло на нет и остались единицы, попросту прятавшиеся в "схронах". Нынешних айзсаргов не стоит переоценивать, только часть из них идейные. Остальные пришли туда кто за льготами, кто за престижем, кто за "романтикой". Дело в том, что идея своей "западности", "европейскости" сыграла с гражданами ЛР злую шутку - 9 из 10 выпускников школ не связывают своё будущее с Тевземе (отчизной) и мечтают уехать "в Европу", где благополучно ассимилируются. Впрочем, как и большинство."русскоязычных". Думаю, исходя из опыта 2-й Мировой и современной техники слежения "партизаны" в случае необходимости будут успешно ликвидированы в короткие сроки. И ещё думаю, что это не понадобится, войны не будет - и слава богу.
  25. ApJlekuHo
    ApJlekuHo 6 June 2020 22: 23 New
    -1
    Живущие в Латвии русские люди, победят Латвийскую армию, без вмешательства России, как только начнется "заворушка".
    1. L-39NG
      L-39NG 6 June 2020 23: 46 New
      -5
      "Русские люди"? Кого считаете "Русскими людьми"? Которые по-русски говорят? Или всех, которые из совка уехали? Такие и Европе и в Америке, да и по-всему земному шару расселилис. Считаете, что они повстанут и всю планету под кремлёвских прогнут? И везде на свете будет Россия? То, не дай Боже, мировая революция, в понимании узурпаторов "псевдокоммунистов" и олигархов, аппаратников-рабовладельцев, то весь мир - Россия, а кругом одни враги. Коллективный мазохизм смешанный с паранойей.
      1. Aag
        Aag 8 June 2020 19: 43 New
        +1
        "Русские люди"? Кого считаете "Русскими людьми"? Которые по-русски говорят? Или всех, которые из совка уехали? "
        Я,например,считаю тех,кто там при СССР жил,и кому нынешние "закидоны" верхушки Латвии не по нутру.И их не мало,-оцените видео из Риги в День Победы,из года в год.
    2. Aag
      Aag 8 June 2020 19: 45 New
      0
      Quote: ApJlekuHo
      Живущие в Латвии русские люди, победят Латвийскую армию, без вмешательства России, как только начнется "заворушка".

      I wanted to say something like that, I’ve got ahead! hi
  26. Disorder
    Disorder 6 June 2020 23: 27 New
    +1
    Да нафиг не сдались эти "три болтика" России. Опять их корми, опять им строй. Если что, точечными ударами зачистить военную инфраструктуру, и пускай копают схроны у себя на огородах.

    PS And as for Switzerland, there’s nothing to argue about. Despite all its neutrality, Switzerland, in fact, was an ally of Germany. After the WWII, a number of Swiss enterprises were used to circumvent the Versailles restrictions. In particular, Soloturn Waffenfabrik, which generally belonged to the Rheinmetall Borzig since the early 20s. So why attack Switzerland if its enterprises are already working for Germany. For that matter, it could simply be annexed, as was Austria at one time.
    1. L-39NG
      L-39NG 7 June 2020 00: 20 New
      -3
      И раньше говорили "малой кровью, на чужой территории".
      Война кончилась давным давно. Страны победительницы уже лет 20 не существует. Страна проигравшая живёт и процветает. Осколки победительницы живут за счёт товаров машиностроения и ширпотреба из стран не дружественных, подле российской пропаганды. Импортзамещение - ложь для внутреннего потребления. Пора перестать бить себя кулаками в грудь и кичится "мы самые-самые" сейчас это всем к... пытаются корректно не обращать внимание, как на детей малых. Сначала сделайте порядок дома и научитесь работать на свой двор, и не лезте туда, куда вас не звали.
    2. Aag
      Aag 8 June 2020 19: 51 New
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      "Да нафиг не сдались эти "три болтика" России."
      We continue to forget only about people whom we have surrendered together with the Union ...
  27. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 7 June 2020 00: 43 New
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    Ten years bathed, because there was no experience. Now there is the experience of the Caucasus, Afghanistan, etc. There is a real special forces, which will clean up the partisans in a year or two, if not faster.
    If the task is set, we will take Lithuania in a few days. The rest did not rest against the garden.
    In general, in my opinion, the author nobly licked the Baltic states. But it’s not clear what would it be? )))
    1. Captain Nemo
      Captain Nemo 9 June 2020 02: 44 New
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      They are engaged in the same preparations for guerrilla warfare as modern Belarus. Or does someone not know? And in the Stalinist USSR, partisan bases began to be laid before the war. At the expense of modern technology (UAVs, thermal imaging cameras, sapyanins with an electronic concentration camp) - hasn’t something been destroyed in the Russian Federation yet? Mao Dzedong coped with the drug mafia for several years without any electronics. Why in our country, the authorities do not allow the people to create their own self-defense forces, to choose judges according to the constitution? Why are Russians dying off at such a pace? Why are stolen top officials not shot in the USSR and China? What the hell tribaltics, with such stability, Russia will simply disappear in 3 generations!
  28. for
    for 7 June 2020 03: 19 New
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    Just a question, from whom?
  29. tarackanovaleksei
    tarackanovaleksei 7 June 2020 18: 55 New
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    But in general ...., komoni need ?????
    And why capture them ?????
    The time will come, they themselves will sell themselves, at a cheap price.
  30. gumas
    gumas 7 June 2020 19: 45 New
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    take it easy. the Baltic states poses no threat to you laughing do not pay attention to politicians, they bark to the tune of the United States, and people as a whole are fully adequate and do not see the enemy in Russia. Of course there are people with brainwashed who hates Russians, although they have never been seen laughing (I'm talking about Lithuania)
  31. Zakonnik
    Zakonnik 7 June 2020 20: 46 New
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    Peacekeeping missions? You need to call a spade a spade. Baltic extinction troops regularly take part in armed interventions on the territory of independent states.
    1. gumas
      gumas 7 June 2020 21: 38 New
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      да, их в основном используют лишь для создания образа "коалиции" ;)
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  33. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 8 June 2020 10: 23 New
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    The brothers won by sending the nationalists out of the villages and villages. There was no food base. and the brothers are gone. The same thing happened in Ukraine. Something everywhere went a shaft of articles about the alleged attack of Russia on the Baltic states. Here, take a bite, you just need to demand compensation from them for the Nistadt Treaty ...
    1. DWG1905
      DWG1905 8 June 2020 15: 01 New
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      Interesting topic. My father served in Lithuania, the city of Alytus (this is where the paratroopers later stood) from 1948 to 1951, a heavy tank and self-propelled regiment. Mostly MGB units fought there, tankers were involved - planting in a 152 mm crypt from ISU-152, campaigning for the Soviet regime by driving the whole regiment throughout the night around the city, helps a lot. Forest brothers killed sentries, set mines. On a mine ran into a divorce guard, someone stepped in the middle. The father was thrown into the Neman with the Nachkar. Who pulled whom they did not understand. Probably it is necessary for children and grandchildren to write down the stories of the father that he remembered. And for partisan supporters, study the classics - partisans among peasants like a fish in water, in order to defeat the partisans you need to pour water. Yes, I agree, maybe everyone should go to Siberia and not, you can go to brick factories in Dagestan, and even give it to farmers, working Balts. Russia is a great place for everyone. Maybe someone knows the number of the regiment, there is a photo of the father on the background of the banner of the unit, the number is naturally not visible secrecy.
      1. gumas
        gumas 8 June 2020 22: 00 New
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        tebe s galavoj normalno? sam sebe mozes atvetyt, kakoe tvojo delo do pribaltyki ?? doma nesydytsa?
  34. awdrgy
    awdrgy 8 June 2020 16: 46 New
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    В случае войны у них партизан не будет(речь ведь идет именно о войне а не о полицейской операции) Почему?-потому что -1 Малая численность населения способствует лишению партизан всех баз снабжения да и самой мотивации к сопротивлению(это как раз про идейных)путем временной или не очень депортации этого населения куда-нибудь подальше Вариант 2 Еще хуже для партизан-уничтожение населения и они выйдут сами Но он не гуманен и не необходим в связи с возможностью первого варианта Что касается Швейцарии-там конечно лучше всего блокада и поэтому их "милитаризованность" так же бесполезна -им "энерголизованность и продоволизованность" надо развивать да и в этом случае хоть все горы запасами забей и бензин и тушенка имеют срок годности
  35. kondrat
    kondrat 8 June 2020 21: 07 New
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    Whatever it was, the issue of developing territorial defense in the Kaliningrad region is vital. But for some reason this topic is in the red.
  36. DeKo
    DeKo 8 June 2020 22: 34 New
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    It seems that the author was ordered this article. Balts.
    And now the points:

    10 years ago, a scandal broke out in the Baltics, and it was precisely because of the forests. All of the forest was laid by Western banks. To support the local currency. When these countries began to switch to the euro, the bankers came to the forest. With revision. About 52% of all forests were cut down.
    Further .... The Baltic countries in NATO missions do not participate in battles. They have a purely police and rear mission. Well, about the forest brothers, the author is also disingenuous. For 10 years, they were catching not warring bandits, but those who sat on farms and shook with fear
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 10 June 2020 02: 19 New
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      Quote: DeKo
      ... the Baltic countries in NATO missions do not participate in battles. They have a pure police and rear mission

      You tell them dear, in Latvia there were characters who wanted to send a combat unit to a second Iraq. They wanted to send the special forces team, but they clamped on the grandmothers on uniform / equipment / surcharges and the guys had the mind to be indignant - they were prepared by an officer of the Kabul company. They turned away where they could in revenge. And those who are sent to the rear to poke gear outfit 'with the world a thread'.
      1. danske75
        danske75 12 June 2020 17: 22 New
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        Two Latvians even participated in the famous Combat Outpost Keating fight.
        Литовцы имели свои подконтрольны регион и их ССО деиствовали сутками и неделями в тылу у талибов, естонцев погибло не 1 и не 2, так што про "исключительно тыловые части" можно даже неговорить.
  37. Aleksandr123
    Aleksandr123 8 June 2020 22: 40 New
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    "как защитят себя Латвия, Литва и Эстония" - все довольно подробно расписано, конечно. Только самый главный вопрос - от кого они будут защищаться. "Как защитят себя" - это зависит от того, кто будет нападать, как будут нападать. Этого в статье не нашел. Неужели от НАТО?
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    2. gumas
      gumas 9 June 2020 19: 01 New
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      73 года а жизнь ничему не научила. у нас антирускую истерию гонят только продажные политики и "полезные и д и о т ы", которым пропаганда промыла мозги, что ненавидить руских это патриотизм, но среди них врятли найдёш такова возраста. нащёт фашизма то это больше относитса к тебе пасколько твоя риторика, как у убеждёного националсоциалиста.
  41. Yuri Mikhailovsky
    Yuri Mikhailovsky 9 June 2020 00: 22 New
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    Shoot in the back and cut out the sleeping ... that's, actually, all the tactics.
  42. danske75
    danske75 9 June 2020 21: 40 New
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    Едут "партизанить". Фото вчерашние и сегодняшние.




    1. gumas
      gumas 10 June 2020 23: 30 New
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      First, the Lithuanian army was built under the protection of the territory, then they joined NATO, and those overshoes altered it to their standards. Now we have an army for one battle :(
      1. danske75
        danske75 12 June 2020 17: 24 New
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        What do you think will make CASP and arrows, in importance? The term territorial defense, what can you say?
  43. uralant
    uralant 9 June 2020 23: 26 New
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    "Однако стоит напомнить, что в послевоенные годы победоносная советская армия почти десять лет не могла окончательно уничтожить прибалтийских «лесных братьев»,
    However, it is worth noting that the Soviet army did not fight with the forest brothers, as well as with the Ukrainian bandits. They tried to convince them that the war was over and their masters were defeated. When tired of persuading, the tyrannical state evicted them to Siberia and on that fairy tale end. All calmed down. For me, it was necessary to shoot.
  44. Charik
    Charik 10 June 2020 21: 58 New
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    most effectively they will be able to protect themselves from death - if they surrender and immediately go to the mines in Siberia or the taiga
  45. kondrat
    kondrat 11 June 2020 21: 10 New
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    Как там защищат себя лабусы и пшеки не столь важно. Как защитит себя Калининградская область-гораздо интереснее ?! В отличии от прибалтов и поляков у нас совершенно не развивают резерв из местных ресурсов. Даже пресловутых "партизан" давно не собирают для учёбы. Надеяться только на войска РФ, в условиях ограниченной территории КЛД. обл. и возможности скоротечного развития событий-слишком легкомысленно
  46. DIM (a)
    DIM (a) 11 June 2020 23: 44 New
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    Reflections on the theme of the Baltic stubborn partisans.

    After the Second World War, the USSR pursued a very soft policy, therefore:
    many were forgiven, obviously serving fascism and smeared with criminal offenses went to the camp
    for 2 years (I do not remember exactly) the death penalty was abolished
    очень долго 3-4 года искореняли "партизан" продолжавших убивать граждан СССР, стараясь не уничтожить "несознательных"
  47. Clone
    Clone 12 June 2020 01: 37 New
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    Чисто в космос... Почему-то некоторые авторы, выпадающие в осадок при описании неимоверной крутости прибалтийских военных формирований, забывают о количестве этнических русских, прибывающих в статусе "недограждан". А это тихо тикающая бомба, которая может рвануть и без всякой "оккупации". Месть за унижение человеческого достоинства никто не отменял. Во-вторых, война с противником на его территории (мизерной по сути) предполагает использование средств поражения вовсе иных, чем те, что применимы при "наведении конституционного порядка" у себя.
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    In the near future, we do not need the Baltic states even for the sake of sports interest. However, like Switzerland with its undeterred army.