On the strengths of the Baltic armies: how Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia will defend themselves

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The attitude to the armed forces of the Baltic states in Russia is traditionally skeptical. Compared to the large and well-armed Russian army, the armed forces of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia look, to put it mildly, frivolous. But they also have their own strengths.

Of course, if we compare the armed forces of the Baltic republics with the armies of such powers as Russia, or, for example, the United States and China, then there’s nothing to talk about. However, it is worth recalling that in the post-war years, the victorious Soviet army could not completely destroy the Baltic “forest brothers” for almost ten years, which caused a lot of problems to the organs of Soviet power and the civilian population.



Territorial defense - the "forest brothers" of our time


If an armed conflict breaks out between any of the Baltic republics and any larger and more militarily powerful state, then all the hopes of Latvians, Lithuanians and Estonians will continue to be "partisan", more precisely, the territorial defense forces.

Thus, in Lithuania, an important component of the armed forces is the Krašto Apsaugos Savanorių pajėgos (KASP) Volunteer Guard Forces. Their number is 5 thousand people. The main task of volunteers in the event of hostilities is the organization of partisan resistance to enemy troops in Lithuania, and in peacetime they organize military training of the population, participate in the liquidation of emergencies and their consequences, in the maintenance of public order and even in peacekeeping operations.

There is a similar structure in Latvia - Zemessardze, that is, “Land Guard”. Like the Lithuanian Territory Protection Forces, the Latvian Zemesardze is part of the national armed forces. It serves 592 military personnel and 10 510 volunteers, while 90% serve for ideological reasons.


The range of tasks to be solved is similar to the Lithuanian Territory Protection Forces - participation in the liquidation of accidents, policing, mobilization work, and, if necessary, the deployment of partisan resistance in the republic. In total, Zemessardze consists of 18 battalions: 3 support battalions, 1 artillery, 1 engineering, 1 air defense, 1 defense defense battalion weapons mass destruction, 10 infantry battalions and 1 training battalion.

Estonia has Kaitseliit, the Estonian Defense League, also part of the armed forces. It numbers about 20 thousand people who are also engaged in military training, primarily for possible partisan operations in the event of invasion of foreign armies in the country.


Pluses of a reserve and the "fired" soldiers


The fact that thousands of ideologically motivated fighters of the territorial defense forces, owning weapons and regularly undergoing training in training camps, can cause a lot of trouble for the enemy army, going over to guerrilla warfare and sabotage operations. Thus, the armed forces of the Baltic republics compensate for their small numbers with a good organization of territorial defense, almost according to the Swiss model. By the way, if we talk about experience, then the average service life in the Latvian Zemessardz is 8 years - it is quite enough to prepare a good partisan.

Another plus is the saving of financial expenses, since volunteers acquire a lot at their own expense. But, of course, there are problems in such formations, especially with discipline and submission.

Here it’s worthwhile to understand the basic paradigm of the military strategy of the Baltic states: not to defeat the enemy, but to exhaust him, to detain him on his territory, holding out until the arrival of reinforcements from the more powerful countries of the North Atlantic Alliance. This explains the increased attention to paramilitary and reserve formations, since regular armies will very likely be crushed quickly enough.

To the honor of the Baltic armies, it should be noted the fact that they care about the "shelling" of their officers and contract soldiers. Despite the fact that the Baltic republics do not have their “hot spots”, they regularly send troops to NATO missions around the world. So, the Estonian military took part in hostilities in Afghanistan, Iraq, in peacekeeping missions in Mali, Kosovo, Lebanon. Latvia sent its soldiers to Iraq, Afghanistan, and even earlier - to Kosovo and Bosnia. The Lithuanian military also took part in operations in Afghanistan, Iraq, Kosovo and Bosnia. It is clear that the "fired" military personnel, especially interacting with the soldiers of the armies of other NATO countries, are of great value to the Baltic armies than the new recruits who were not in the "hot spots".
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  1. +12
    6 June 2020 13: 27
    It should be especially emphasized that most of these "partisans" are ideological ... that is, they will not run away when they see the enemy ..
    P, S. Actually, this is considered the "Swiss system". In addition to a regular army (and it is not small), they also have an impressive base of reservists - partisans ... In the event of a war, in 36 hours, the army increases 3 times by the already prepared reserve
    1. +20
      6 June 2020 13: 29
      On the strengths of the Baltic armies: how Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia will defend themselves

      Article NO о THAN ?

      (I ask you not to get excited about "especially impressionable" moderators, I mean not the article itself, but the alleged "strengths" of the Baltic armies)
    2. +1
      6 June 2020 13: 31
      Quote: lonely
      Actually, this is considered the "Swiss system". In addition to a regular army (and it is not small), they also have an impressive base of reservists - partisans ... In the event of a war, in 36 hours, the army increases 3 times by the already prepared reserve


      And after a demonstration of attempts to confront the regular army, he is concentrated in an organized manner at the places of surrender ...
    3. +8
      6 June 2020 13: 31
      And where was that Swiss army in those two world wars?
      1. +8
        6 June 2020 13: 44
        Quote: sabakina
        where was that swiss army in those two world wars?

        It is more logical to ask WHAT was (a bank cell for warring parties), and WHERE, and what she did, and so it is clear - sat on the pope exactly.

        Money love silence Yes
        1. 0
          6 June 2020 13: 50
          Well, why do they need us? Enough to feed.
          1. 0
            8 June 2020 19: 19
            Now then of course not needed. port infrastructure for trade relations with central Europe is expanding ... problems are being solved bypassing these countries.
            but if relations with central Europe normalize, something will have to be done with these American enclaves between Russia and large European countries.
        2. +4
          6 June 2020 17: 04
          did the same thing as the armies of Sweden, Ireland, Spain, Portugal ...
      2. -1
        6 June 2020 13: 47
        Quote: sabakina
        And where was that Swiss army in those two world wars?

        Old-timers money ..! Well, who, who but they have welded up on war and crime like no one else. If you open their cellars and accounts .. The world will shudder!
      3. -9
        6 June 2020 14: 04
        Quote: sabakina
        And where was that Swiss army in those two world wars?

        In neutrality .. By the way, Hitler had a plan "Tannenbaum" for the capture of Switzerland .. But he abandoned this idea .. I do not know why, but I suppose that he realized what he could get into in the mountains against a large army of mountain guerrillas
        1. +15
          6 June 2020 14: 07
          Quote: lonely
          By the way, Hitler had a plan "Tannenbaum" for the capture of Switzerland .. But he abandoned this idea .. I don't know why, but I suppose that he realized what he could get into in the mountains against a large army of mountain guerrillas


          Do you believe that the Führer, without drifting against, for example, France and its allied UK, saved before Switzerland (meaning Western Europe)? belay
          1. -13
            6 June 2020 14: 19
            Quote: Insurgent
            Do you believe that the Fuhrer, without drifting against, for example, France and its allied Great Britain, saved before Switzerland (

            Do you understand what it means to fight in the mountains with a millionth army trained to lead it? Tank wedges are impossible there, there is no room for maneuver .. The Führer was certainly touched, but completely untouched people were sitting at his headquarters in order to climb there in the midst of 1943
            1. +7
              6 June 2020 14: 26
              Quote: lonely
              Do you understand what it means to fight in the mountains with a millionth army trained to lead it? Tank wedges are impossible there, there is no room for maneuver .. The Führer was certainly touched, but completely untouched people were sitting at his headquarters in order to climb there in the midst of 1943

              I realized that you are under the "impression", or rather abide in the illusion of the "invincible Swiss model" ...
              Stay there, I will not raid your well-established cozy little world.
              1. -6
                6 June 2020 14: 30
                Quote: Insurgent
                I realized that you are under the "impression", or rather abide in the illusion of the "invincible Swiss model" ...
                Stay there, I will not raid your well-established cozy little world.

                Did you fight in the mountains? Do you know what it means to fight at an altitude of 4000m and higher, where it’s difficult to even breathe .. These are not steppes and plains for wide maneuver .. In most cases, this is a two-lane road between the mountains, where the whole army is tens of kilometers .. And where each turn is a real 100% ambush .. Try to fight in such conditions, and then grin
                1. +10
                  6 June 2020 20: 40
                  Why fight? What is delicious in these mountains? Disrupt their supply - they themselves will die out. And they will try to come down - to meet on the plain, in the usual conditions and prepared.
                  1. 0
                    9 June 2020 01: 22
                    I wonder what food supplies are stored in these mountains. If as in Fink - for a decade?
                2. +4
                  8 June 2020 04: 33
                  Well, in that case it was much more stupid to climb the Wehrmacht into Yugoslavia. (Serbia). But he climbed and then fought in the mountains with the partisans. Hitler most likely did not capture Switzerland because it was already influenced by Germany.
                3. +7
                  8 June 2020 07: 20
                  And what was the German mountain shooter doing in the Elbrus region at an altitude of 3500 meters? Played checkers with the Soviet units or fought the hardest battles in the mountains?
              2. -1
                6 June 2020 14: 53
                or rather, you are in the illusion of an "invincible Swiss model" ...


                Switzerland, by all categories the most militarized nation, is up to the orbit of Mars.
                Total war, everything is mined, runways in tunnels, automatic weapons in every house, obligatory and very serious preparation for everyone, and in every year. Power encourages the purchase of assault rifles, its own production of weapons, bomb shelters for total population and so on.

                There is not the Wehrmacht, not the Red Army, but Darth Vader will break his teeth. laughing
                1. -6
                  6 June 2020 15: 10
                  Quote: Keyser Soze
                  Switzerland, by all categories the most militarized nation,

                  That's it .. Instead of getting to know the very system of this model, many here are pathetically clever ...
                2. +1
                  6 June 2020 18: 07
                  Assault rifles are formidable.
                3. +8
                  6 June 2020 20: 56
                  There is not the Wehrmacht, not the Red Army, but Darth Vader will break his teeth.

                  By June 1940, almost the entire border of Switzerland was in the zone of German influence, Switzerland provided itself with 50 percent of the food.
                  They paid - the so-called Swiss-German clearing agreement (by the summer of 1941 850 million francs), allowed transit (until 1944), traded and exchanged values ​​for currency.
                4. +6
                  7 June 2020 20: 43
                  Quote: Keyser Soze
                  There is not the Wehrmacht, not the Red Army, but Darth Vader will break his teeth.

                  Only this army last fought in the 18th century, and even then, not the army, but the Swiss hired companies. So it is likely that all this steepness will be scattered after the first howitzer shell is torn.
                5. +2
                  8 June 2020 04: 35
                  How did Serbia differ from Switzerland in these aspects? The number of banks?
                6. -1
                  10 June 2020 22: 03
                  a couple of apples and there isn’t that Switzerland — all the cans with cash and precious metal will melt
              3. -7
                7 June 2020 13: 59
                So you "break up" the shtozh there ... Hitler had a plan? Was. Hitler (by the way, with 15 divisions from Italy according to plan) attacked? Nenapal.
                How many Luftwaffe planes did the Swedes bring down, were they interested in?
                Take an interest in how their Commander-in-Chief Henry Guisan said that if during warriors an order is surrendered, then such an order cannot be heard.
                And about the Balts and Estonians ... it's just about the "partisans" written, add the regular armies of those countries that have been modernizing for 5 years (only 5 years), add the Lithuanian shooters who are not mentioned (10), are active and not paper reserves (only in Lithuania about 000) and with pathos continue to talk about the limitrophes.
                1. 0
                  10 June 2020 22: 05
                  and whoever fights with them in melee will not fight you 40s, bang a rocket and blow off the Latvians, bang another and Estonians too
            2. +15
              6 June 2020 19: 05
              In the fight against partisans, you just need to relocate civilians from there (for a while), since there are few of them in the Baltic states (and we have a lot of Siberia), and there will also be the opportunity to talk and figure out who didn’t allow speaking Russian, who demolished monuments to Russian soldiers ?! And then beat everything from the air that stirs and shines warmly ... Gore in the Baltic states a cat cried ... Then the mopping-up is all ... You can bring back educated and wiser citizens. I hope the Baltic states will not bring us to white heat. And then, after all, the Russian people are of course patient ...
              1. +3
                6 June 2020 19: 15
                Quote: MstislavHrabr
                In the fight against partisans, you just need to relocate civilians from there (for a while), since there are few of them in the Baltic states (and we have a lot of Siberia), and there will also be an opportunity to talk and figure out: who did not allow speaking Russian, who demolished monuments ?! And then beat everything from the air that stirs and shines warmly ... Horus in the Baltic states, the cat cried ... Then the mopping up is all ... I hope the Baltic states will not bring us to white heat. And then, after all, the Russian people are of course patient ...

                Mountains is a conversation about Switzerland .. In the Baltic States, another topography .. And as for patience, if the world responded to every bunch, all the surviving people would run with spears and stones
                1. +2
                  6 June 2020 19: 30
                  Partisan war would not last long with their topography and our thermal imagers
              2. +2
                7 June 2020 14: 56
                Yes. I also wanted to write this. Cut off from the supply and support of the population. Then out of hunger will come out to give up. You don’t particularly eat in the forest.
            3. +3
              6 June 2020 22: 31
              Quote: lonely
              Do you understand what it means to fight in the mountains with the millionth army trained to lead it? Tank wedges are impossible there, there is no room for maneuver ..The Führer was certainly touched, but in his headquarters there were by no means untouched people,to climb there in the midst of 1943

              Well, yes, yes .... Why are they then flooded in the Caucasus?
              1. -2
                7 June 2020 01: 10
                They needed oil ... in Switzerland, it isn’t available .. tanks and airplanes cannot be filled with cheese
            4. -2
              7 June 2020 02: 12
              Quote: lonely
              Do you understand what it means to fight in the mountains with a millionth army trained to lead it? Tank wedges are impossible there, there is no room for maneuver.

              The Germans also had good mountain rifle units. It is enough to recall how hard it was for us in the North Caucasus. I think that a great Switzerland with all its millionth army with mountain training would be swept away by Hitler in two. Apparently, he was guided by other thoughts when he abandoned this thought. And the eastern front was the most important factor for this, here you are right.
              1. +2
                9 June 2020 01: 46
                And what's the point of conquering Switzerland? Oil, ore, no fields. But you will have to lose a lot of time and valuable resources for the seizure of a small one. Yes, if the Germans had captured either Stalingrad or Baku, the Red Army would not have lasted long without oil products. Immediately, Japan and Turkey would enter the war with the USSR. After the defeat of the USSR, Albion would have lasted no more than a year. After that, Switzerland as a ripe fruit would fall into Hitler’s hands without a fight. Hitler and his generals were not fools. Stalingrad was the key to the entire 2nd World War.
          2. +1
            9 June 2020 10: 03
            Complete nonsense. Hitler did not touch Switzerland for one simple reason. Switzerland is a bank for the world's elite. Hitler received help from the United States, dignitaries of Great Britain, and French business. In general, the geography of infusions into Nazi Germany is quite impressive. After all, Germany was purposefully prepared and directed at the USSR .. And if Hitler climbed to occupy Switzerland, he would have lost the help from his sponsors. Germany's potential was far from ah. It is foolish to think that it was Hitler who started the war. No matter how it is. This war was "started" for him. As a result, Hitler kaput, and those who started in sweet chocolate. By the way. The United States became the "world leader" only thanks to the Second World War. At the same moment, the United States and "pushed" Great Britain. Well, there is simply nothing to say about other countries. The only country that successfully resisted US expansion was the Soviet Union. I would like to remind you that ALL EUROPE is still under the occupation of the United States, just like Japan and a number of other countries.
        2. 0
          9 June 2020 15: 49
          no need for Hitler as an independent figure. he is also an extortioner of certain financial circles. most likely the Rockefellers with which Krupp was associated. the plan is a plan and the sponsor is the sponsor. neutral Switzerland was needed. and the Baltic states have one hope for NATO unity.
        3. 0
          9 June 2020 22: 08
          plan "Tannenbaum" for the capture of Switzerland

          You don’t have much knowledge, you definitely didn’t study at the General Staff Academy. Fools are not taken there.
          There is such a thing as neutral territory, where you can sell the loot, buy what you need from Ford, relax, talk with representatives of enemy countries, etc.
          In this capacity, Switzerland provided more benefits than captured.
          1. 0
            10 June 2020 20: 40
            Quote: nickname7
            you definitely didn’t study at the academy of the general staff.

            No, I didn’t study .. I didn’t just have time
            Quote: nickname7
            There is such a thing as neutral territory, where you can sell the loot, buy what you need from Ford, relax, talk with representatives of enemy countries, etc.

            But I really did say the opposite? But they really had a plan of capture and this is a fact .. Moreover, there was a plan "Polarfuks" - the capture of Sweden, also a neutral country, which had fairly good relations with the Reich
        4. 0
          11 June 2020 11: 16
          Quote: lonely
          I don’t know why, but I suppose that he understood what he might plod in the mountains against the large army of mountain partisans

          Rather, the question was about maintaining an enclave for reconnaissance and storage of money
      4. 0
        7 June 2020 12: 52
        Quote: sabakina
        And where was that Swiss army in those two world wars?

        I sat on the stove.
    4. +3
      6 June 2020 13: 34
      for sure. will return from Europe from earnings and forward to defend their homeland. in all this there is one but a very big trouble — and who is going to invade them at all? this is not a French movie with the name in my call of the wolf where our army already invades Finland for some reason) that she forgot this division there and what they did not expect in the film)))
    5. +6
      6 June 2020 13: 52
      Absolutely correct comment. In no case should partisanship be discounted.
      1. +2
        6 June 2020 22: 38
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Absolutely correct comment. In no case should partisanship be discounted.

        This would be true, if not for one thing ... Their main enemy, under a star-striped flag, has long since taken root, and we don’t need them from the word at all. Against whom are they going to partisan there?
        1. +1
          11 June 2020 11: 17
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          . Their main enemy under a star-striped flag, they have long since taken root

          Not an enemy, but a breadwinner. Now the EU will cease to feed them, so from hunger where only Togoleo will not climb
    6. -3
      6 June 2020 14: 22
      In modern warfare, THERMOBARIC SATELLITE GUIDED shells will be used against partisanEn.
    7. +1
      6 June 2020 15: 02
      Omar, I am tormented by vague suspicions that many of these "ideological" or their relatives have business in the Russian Federation.
      As for the Swiss, it was their infantry in the Middle Ages that finally buried the concept of the knightly army.
      And the Vatican’s guard is made up of Swiss.
      In 1939, the Armed Forces personnel totaled almost 430000 people. Switzerland was already famous for its own artillery, anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons.
      The Germans would be exhausted cool.
      By the way, during the French company there were several skirmishes in the air, which always ended with the victory of the Swiss pilots. Of course, the loss of aircraft.
      1. -1
        6 June 2020 17: 37
        Hi Nikolay. You are absolutely right. Apart from being a country of banks, cheese and watches, Switzerland has one of the most powerful armies in Europe .. And this is just a fact .. The country's army and geography is the key to their neutrality.
        Quote: knn54
        that many of these "ideological" or their relatives have a business in the Russian Federation.

        Many "ideological" from Russia also have their own business outside the cordon .. If we discard countries and nationalities, it is really much difficult to fight with ideological opponents
        1. -1
          6 June 2020 19: 30
          army on technical indicators they have at the level of the us army of the early 80s, except
        2. 0
          8 June 2020 04: 37
          Rather, banks. This is a great power compared to the army.
      2. +1
        7 June 2020 07: 34
        Quote: knn54
        Omar, I am tormented by vague suspicions that many of these "ideological" or their relatives have business in the Russian Federation.

        I will illustrate your suspicions with a couple of examples.
        1. The opinion of my friend at school. So, a marginal type man, a handyman in cottages for Russian-Belarusian-Ukrainian semi-rich men:
        -If it starts, the machine in the river and on the Latvian-Belarusian border ...
        2. The main Natsik of Latvian Jurmala, the one that on May 9 in his tavern "Kurinsh" did not serve a couple with St. George / Guards ribbons - his sister quite at ease works in the sanatorium "Amber Coast", which is owned by the Presidential Administration of the Russian Federation.
        As for the effectiveness of the partisan movement in very limited territories in the era of drones, even the cheapest of which are equipped with infrared cameras, there is something to ponder ...
        1. Aag
          +1
          8 June 2020 12: 12
          "to the Latvian-Belarusian border ..."
          Where is it?
          1. +2
            8 June 2020 15: 49
            Daugavpils region-Vitebsk region will go?
            Or a claim to writing? I am writing in accordance with the rules of the great and mighty.
            1. Aag
              +1
              8 June 2020 19: 17
              All true. hi
              ... Already began to forget: Daugavpils-Braslav, Kraslava-Verkhnedvinsk.
              I have no complaints about writing, thanks for the answer.
              1. +1
                10 June 2020 14: 25
                Daugavpils-Dvinsk-Dinaburg-even earlier Borisoglebsk-very early Negwin.
                Kraslava-Kraslava, Kraslavl-Kraslau.
                Something like this ...
                1. Aag
                  +1
                  10 June 2020 19: 17
                  Thank you for the ground for development, self-education. Interested. To my shame, the depth of knowledge was limited to Borisoglebsk (film "Bumbarash", - "... do you know the password?). Renaming interested in the process of rereading Pikul after 30+ years ... But he was born, lived in Riga for 22 years! Thank you!
    8. +2
      6 June 2020 17: 30
      Quote: lonely
      P, S. Actually, this is considered the "Swiss system".

      Rather "Scandinavian", like "Hemvern" ... and the Scandinavians are closer to the Balts and the climate is similar ...
      The task of such irregular formations is to free the regular army during the war from auxiliary functions (regulating traffic, guarding the air force and naval base / air defense, interning prisoners of war, etc.), as well as assisting regular forces in the fight against air and sea landing, enemy RDGs. ...
      They also have, in addition to the regular army (and it is not small)

      Swiss Armed Forces are small.
      Back in 2003, the country's citizens voted in favor of the military reform “Army of the XNUMXst Century,” in accordance with which the number of armed forces is being reduced, by 2016, their total number was to be reduced to 100 thousand people.

      https://topwar.ru/116785-armiya-shveycarii-bronepoezd-na-zapasnom-puti.html
      There are no self-defense forces like the Scandinavian or Baltic ones in Switzerland, the entire mobilization reserve is intended for manning / understaffing the linear parts of the armed forces, as well as for replenishing losses in manpower ...
    9. Cat
      +3
      6 June 2020 19: 20
      In addition to the regular army, they also have

      In addition to the regular army, there are mountains in Switzerland, and in the mountains there is a system of shelters and bunkers, which not every nuclear-powered battalion will take. In the Baltics, as far as I know, there are no mountains and jungle, and partisans can only be found there on the Internet.
    10. +6
      6 June 2020 19: 51
      Quote: lonely
      most of these "partisans" are ideological

      so what is this modern Western "civilized" life with a constant thought - to run away into the forest request and there, supposedly we will resist winked
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  3. +5
    6 June 2020 13: 32
    Well, who needs them ??????? Feed them again ??????? It would be nothing to attack
    1. -9
      6 June 2020 15: 11
      Feed them again ???????


      Lipchanin .... With your stunning economy and standard of living, do not really feed anyone. To them, the EU will only pour out at least 10 billion euros, in addition to other money, to eliminate the consequences of coronavirus. And this is all the free help. You can’t dump your Belarusi a billion or two so that they rise, but gather to feed the tribalt. He laughed ....

      Even more - the EU gives free aid to the Western Balkans in the amount of 3 billion euros - this is Serbia, Kosovo, Cerna Gora, Macedonia. So, to correct their economics, after the coronavirus. And do not whine that feeds someone. Separately 750 billion for EU countries.

      Where are you in this picture, are you our breadwinner? laughing
      1. +4
        6 June 2020 18: 14
        Are you eating money there ?! Money will end soon.
        The former republics developed economically and culturally only in the USSR, where there was a common market. The level and quality of life in the USSR were quite high, but in the colonies they cannot be high. Germany and the United States do not create sales markets for the "former", quite the opposite. Anyway. We will see everything for ourselves soon. I think we will see the destruction of the "middle class".
        1. -4
          6 June 2020 20: 55
          Money will end soon.


          And not soon and will not end :) This is just a myth, but on the page of the European Commission there is a complete infa.

          Germany and the USA do not create sales markets for the "former", quite the opposite


          As an example, we exported to Germany (2019) engineering products, pharmaceuticals, electronics and the chemical industry for 9 billion euros. And we have a positive export balance of 320 million euros. So the markets create and how ....

          I think we will see the destruction of the "middle class".


          But this is a statistical truth. Since the days of "Reaganomics" in the mid-80s, neoliberalism has been killing the middle class everywhere in the world, and even in the very same Schaty and Western Europe. It will end in troubles and may be wars.
          1. +1
            6 June 2020 23: 56
            Quote: Keyser Soze
            This will end in turmoil and may be wars.

            Foreboding of civil wars with a surplus and sales markets - how to explain this? It does not grow together.
      2. +1
        6 June 2020 18: 37
        "If you feed a person with fish, he will be full once, but if you teach him to fish, he will be full many times."
        1. +2
          6 June 2020 20: 42
          Quote: seagull
          "If you feed a person with fish, he will be full once, but if you teach him to fish, he will be full many times."
          Call the man Satiated and he will be Satisfied all his life!
      3. +1
        10 June 2020 02: 01
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        The EU gives free aid to the West ... And it does not whine that it feeds someone. Separately 750 billion for EU countries.

        After reading your koment it seemed that he was again on political information, only with a tolerant European bias. You so firmly believe in Esov unity that it’s even funny: where did you see him? When creating a migration crisis, Italy was left alone with the problem? Probably when they rushed together on a team to water Yugoslavia, setting a record for making a “joint” decision, they agreed on the day. You do not do propaganda at home?
  4. 0
    6 June 2020 13: 40
    strategies of the Baltic states: not to defeat the enemy, but to exhaust him, to detain him on his territory ...

    Well, well ... Say exhaust ...
  5. +3
    6 June 2020 13: 44
    But they also have their own strengths.

    laughing
    in the postwar years, the victorious Soviet army could not completely destroy the Baltic “forest brothers” for almost ten years

    It’s difficult to fight with partisans. However could armed resistance local fascists break.
  6. +13
    6 June 2020 13: 56
    1) The Chinese army will not attack the sprat limitrophes, Russia does not need these "countries" for nothing!
    2) To compare the anti-partisan war with the "forest brothers" at the end of the 40s of the 20th century, when the USSR was in a dilapidated state and modern methods were such - nonsense! Now the same Lithuania is not a part of the USSR, but a hostile state, and if, after all, Russia captures it, what prevents the population from being loaded into calf wagons and sent to the southern coast of the Laptev Sea? And then I'll see if the "motivation" of the Lithuanian "partisans" will last for a long time ?! Axiom: without the support of the local population, any partisan movement will stall almost instantly! I'm not even talking about modern systems for finding people in the forest and caches ...
    1. 0
      7 June 2020 14: 10
      So immersed, immersed. They would not load, then not until the mid-60s but until the 80s they would partisan.
      1. 0
        7 June 2020 21: 30
        10% were loaded - after all, the extraneous sprat limitrophs were then considered the Soviet republics, and now there will be no moral or material restrictions!
  7. +1
    6 June 2020 14: 01
    Why the hell personally did these tribals come to me ??? I do not know?
    1. 0
      6 June 2020 19: 31
      The Balts are shitting on us and from this they are more and more afraid of us, because they understand that sooner or later they will have to answer for this. And from this they shit even more ... Therefore, I think that the "magic pendel" from our side would very much help to establish a constructive position of the leadership of the Baltic countries ...
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  9. +5
    6 June 2020 14: 38
    Let's not be about ... funny.
  10. +4
    6 June 2020 14: 40
    Well, they serve "ideologically." However, firstly, no one is going to attack them, and secondly, .... It is enough "firstly". Therefore, the title should have a different meaning, for example: "National Guard of Neighboring States, Their Missions, Number and Armament."
  11. +4
    6 June 2020 14: 47
    The partisanship that the Balts are counting on is the army's weak point, not a strong one. The wars beginning in Vietnam can be characterized as guerrilla wars. The Russian Federation has a huge experience of such wars - Afghanistan, Tajikistan, the North Caucasus, Syria ... so there is already modern experience so as not to repeat the mistakes of the USSR in the fight against the Bandera and forest brothers. The best thing for the Balts is neutrality in the image of the Swiss, Swedes, Finns. And NATO is already a war for its own benefit, in which the Balts are a "sacred victim of Western democracy" ....
    1. +1
      6 June 2020 19: 52
      They cannot afford to maintain neutrality, because they want to eat! And having joined the NATO gang, they count on handouts from the West.
      Only no one is going to attack them, since in the conditions of modern warfare their territory has lost special strategic importance.
      And economically, we can easily do without their transit and ports.
  12. +7
    6 June 2020 15: 12
    However, it is worth recalling that in the post-war years the victorious Soviet army could not completely destroy the Baltic “forest brothers” for almost ten years,
    So the Victorious Soviet Army did not fight with the forest brothers. This contingent was fought by other competent authorities.
  13. -1
    6 June 2020 15: 28
    On the strengths of the Baltic armies: how Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia will defend themselves
    Another owl on the globe, well, well. No. And who said that for every jerk you need to run and persuade to give up? We are in Europe, just as Serbia reptiles bombed and shot down a BP with depleted uranium, so we can process and sweep the Baltic states, forest brothers, you might get to the bottom of your ancestors. angry
  14. +1
    6 June 2020 16: 41
    They will not defend themselves against us in any way, because we will not attack them, and if they are used as a bridgehead, then we ourselves are to blame ....
  15. 0
    6 June 2020 16: 42
    Given the progress in UAVs and modern thermal imaging and infrared technology, as well as the development of all this game with cameras and face recognition - I think that soon the partisans will come to an end, almost to zero.
    The question of eliminating it will simply be in the category of "price" and in the organizational capabilities of those who will be involved in this. If we are talking about Afghanistan, where people breed like rabbits and kids can shoot for 10 years, sir, human life and property rights mean little - this is one thing, it is more complicated there. While. And if we take a European country - all the more so the Baltic States with its "population", relief and degree of cartography - I would not have been partisan for a long time there in the 21st century.
  16. 0
    6 June 2020 17: 02
    Even the partisans are preparing for the last war ... request
    Modern anti-partisan opportunities have increased dramatically - technology has gone far ahead feel
    Now you don’t really run through the forests - UAVs with a radar, a thermal imager can direct artifacts in real time, and they can treat them with a bomb ... request
    So you have to hide in the cities ... request
    Yes, and why occupy them? A blow to power plants and fuel reserves and that’s all ... the collapse of the economy hi
    1. 0
      6 June 2020 19: 21
      Quote: ser56
      Yes, and why occupy them?

      And then Stalin needed them only because they represented a convenient corridor for the march of Germans from East Prussia directly to Leningrad. That is why the Germans nevertheless managed to take advantage of this corridor, although Soviet troops were deployed there, this is another topic. And nowadays, the war in Europe, if it begins, will end sooner than NATO can deploy tank forces to strike Peter through the Baltic. Polish obsolete and under-modernized T-72 and the same old Leopard models? Not even funny.
  17. -1
    6 June 2020 17: 39
    To be proud of their partisan detachments, and not full-fledged armed forces - this is typically Baltic. Modern peaceful democratically carpet bombing completely eliminates national-partisan combat units as such. There is another question - why do you have to tug on the whiskers of the Baltic tigers? There are no polymers there, the economy was killed, and doctors do not recommend eating sprats. And the fact that Vilnius was renamed Vilnius is that the Polish partisans are offended.
    1. +2
      6 June 2020 19: 11
      Quote: Junior Private
      Doctors do not recommend sprats

      There is an American company Season, which sells canned fish, in particular sardines. It is considered High end, i.e. good and expensive. They have a whole line of products. Below priced sardines in water and plain olive oil, made in Morocco. And the most expensive option in Extra Virgin First Cold Press is the olive oil Product of Latvia. The same sprats, only seemingly a little less smoked (but still smoked), and the specific name of the fish is sprattus sprattus, i.e. sprats. And advertised as healthy food. By the way, it's delicious.
      1. 0
        6 June 2020 19: 35
        Doctors say (I referred to their opinion) that because of smoking or for some other reason, carcinogens form in sprats that do not add health. Whether it is true or not, I don’t know and don’t want to know, but I will eat sprats, just like I did in the days of the USSR. The truth more began to like Kaliningrad (?) Smelt.
        1. 0
          6 June 2020 19: 41
          There are a lot of smelt, even in America, but there is only one smelt, Neva. Included in the list of things in America that I can only nostalgic for. The local is not at all, and they do not sell fresh frozen.
          1. +1
            6 June 2020 19: 46
            There is also Sakhalin, it is three times larger than the Neva. Tasty.
            1. 0
              6 June 2020 20: 19
              Quote: Junior Private
              There is also Sakhalin, it is three times larger than the Neva. Tasty.

              I don’t know, I haven’t tried it. They didn’t sell it in Leningrad (I don’t know how in St. Petersburg, I still left Leningrad), and even less so in America. I believe you with pleasure.
  18. 0
    6 June 2020 18: 20
    Ready-made funeral teams, what partisanship in a modern war, absurdity! The author sings the praises of the Baltic Armed Forces. I studied in Riga at a military school under the USSR, now every year I visit the Baltic states 6-7 times and have seen enough of this army, especially equipment, scooters and mopeds will soon be in service
  19. -1
    6 June 2020 18: 43
    About the partisans, it's funny ... Where will the caches be doing? They cut down the forest, but did not plant a new one ... UAVs with thermal imagers will calculate all in two ...
    1. Aag
      +1
      8 June 2020 18: 53
      Quote: seagull
      About the partisans, it's funny ... Where will the caches be doing? They cut down the forest, but did not plant a new one ... UAVs with thermal imagers will calculate all in two ...

      Why is there such information about the forest? But the UAVs of the Federal Forestry Agency in Siberia do not notice the bald spots that are already shining on Google maps.
      1. 0
        10 June 2020 16: 55
        First-hand, many acquaintances live there (Baltic republics). Yes, and where does the forest protection, when talking about combat drones ...
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          0
          10 June 2020 19: 07
          Similarly, he was born, lived for 22 years. drinks
          The amount cut down there (Latvia), and here (only the Irkutsk region) is not comparable, even taking into account the size of the territories.
          About drones. I don’t like the hack. Too often Russians paid disproportionately much for this "sin". I don’t know the characteristics and capabilities of "combat drones" in modern Russia (although it’s probably more correct to talk about reconnaissance drone), but when the local media "shouted ":" almighty BPs have appeared at the forest guard, kiryk for black lumberjacks! .... I don't know how to upload files, -the entrance doors are glued with ads, -we will collect signatures against illegal logging (within the city!)
          To our sheep ... Are you sure of the capabilities of domestic UAVs? Do you know them? Open sources have been issuing information since the USSR (!)
          ... Yes, in general, it’s all a gon! Other methods must be worked on! (IMHO) Ukraine has not taught what is needed in the bud. Caucasus. Central Asia, is a separate issue .. hi
          1. 0
            10 June 2020 19: 25
            The article examined the topic of the likely confrontation between the forces of the Baltic states and partisan tactics and the modern army of Russia ... My opinion is that partisans in a modern war will not be able to resist (only one-time actions and terror of the population) ...
            Regarding the work of our drones in modern conditions, study reports from Syria (the most striking example).
            PS And where is Siberia and the black lumberjacks ??? If you are very concerned about the topic of deforestation, write an article and we will talk .... hi
  20. 0
    6 June 2020 18: 57
    2 cool cowboys are riding along the prairie. Towards the third cowboy, of some kind of a shabby look, on a half-dead nag. Parted. One says to the other:
    “Do you know who that is?”
    - Not.
    - This is Elusive Joe.
    - What, and nobody can catch this shit?
    “But who needs it?”
    ...
    So these sprats are also all invincible.
  21. +1
    6 June 2020 19: 32
    The technique is now different, and it’s unlikely that a war will be waged by partisan methods, as in the Great Patriotic War. And there is no Siberian taiga and Belarusian forests and swamps. A maximum of one, two attacks and will be detected and destroyed.
    1. 0
      6 June 2020 21: 38
      Quote: fiberboard
      The technique is now different, and it’s unlikely that a war will be waged by partisan methods, as in the Great Patriotic War

      Therefore, partisanism is reborn into underground. You can also cover it with modern technologies (see the post about Sobyanin below), but it’s more difficult.
  22. 0
    6 June 2020 20: 54
    all the hopes of Latvians, Lithuanians and Estonians will continue to be “partisan”

    In such a case, they are Sobyanin's commandant - he will force everyone to put an application there, which will force you to take a selfie at the most unexpected moment. And if you are in the bushes on a selfie, or you didn't take it at all, you will be fined mercilessly. And the worst offenders - a chip in the bochin and constant tracking. In a couple of months, the entire "partisan movement" will fall apart from the general impoverishment and "isolation" of the most active. Sobyanin knows how to rule hostile nations.
  23. -1
    6 June 2020 21: 29
    Those who wrote this nonsense have a poor idea of ​​the modern possibilities of the instrumental search for "partisans" and their bases.
    1. 0
      9 June 2020 00: 08
      This is not a computer game. have you forgotten Chechnya? was everything easy and simple?
      1. 0
        12 June 2020 11: 24
        In the yard 2020. And the army is already different. And there are no mountains in the Baltic. And the Arabs with their mercenaries and dough for the Baltic states will not fit. And the borders in Europe are far from arbitrary.
  24. +4
    6 June 2020 21: 48
    I know Latvia well and would like to share my thoughts on the topic of "forest brothers". Initially, this "movement" arose from the remnants of the Courland grouping, scattered across the forests. Among them were many people with extensive combat experience and military education. Therefore, at first it was difficult to liquidate them, especially since the local population was partly intimidated by the "night power" and partly supported them. But in the 50s, the fodder base of the "partisans" - farmsteads was liquidated, and you couldn't hide in settlements, and the "movement" came to naught and only a few remained, simply hiding in the "caches". The current aizsargs should not be overestimated, only some of them are ideological. The rest came there for some privileges, some for prestige, some for "romance". The fact is that the idea of ​​being "Western", "European" has played a cruel joke on the citizens of the Republic of Lithuania - 9 out of 10 school graduates do not associate their future with Tevzeme (homeland) and dream of leaving "Europe" where they are assimilated. However, like most of the "Russian-speaking" people. I think, based on the experience of World War II and modern tracking technology, "partisans", if necessary, will be successfully eliminated in a short time. And I also think that this will not be needed, there will be no war - and thank God.
  25. -1
    6 June 2020 22: 23
    The Russian people living in Latvia will defeat the Latvian army, without the intervention of Russia, as soon as the "zavorushka" begins.
    1. -5
      6 June 2020 23: 46
      "Russian people"? Who do you consider "Russian people"? Who speak Russian? Or everyone who left the scoop? Such people have settled in Europe and America, and all over the world. Do you think that they will rebel and bend the entire planet under the Kremlin? And Russia will be everywhere in the world? Now, God forbid, the world revolution, in the understanding of the usurpers "pseudo-communists" and oligarchs, slave-owner apparatniks, then the whole world is Russia, and all around there are only enemies. Collective masochism mixed with paranoia.
      1. Aag
        +1
        8 June 2020 19: 43
        "Russian people"? Who do you consider "Russian people"? Who speak Russian? Or everyone who left the scoop? "
        For example, I consider those who lived there under the USSR, and who do not like the current "quirks" of the top of Latvia. And there are many of them, - check out the video from Riga on Victory Day, from year to year.
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      0
      8 June 2020 19: 45
      Quote: ApJlekuHo
      The Russian people living in Latvia will defeat the Latvian army, without the intervention of Russia, as soon as the "zavorushka" begins.

      I wanted to say something like that, I’ve got ahead! hi
  26. +1
    6 June 2020 23: 27
    Yes nafig these "three bolts" of Russia did not give up. Feed them again, build them again. If anything, clear out the military infrastructure with pinpoint strikes, and let them dig caches in their gardens.

    PS And as for Switzerland, there’s nothing to argue about. Despite all its neutrality, Switzerland, in fact, was an ally of Germany. After the WWII, a number of Swiss enterprises were used to circumvent the Versailles restrictions. In particular, Soloturn Waffenfabrik, which generally belonged to the Rheinmetall Borzig since the early 20s. So why attack Switzerland if its enterprises are already working for Germany. For that matter, it could simply be annexed, as was Austria at one time.
    1. -3
      7 June 2020 00: 20
      And before they said "with little blood, on foreign territory."
      The war ended long ago. The winning country has not existed for 20 years. The losing country lives and flourishes. The fragments of the winner live off of mechanical engineering goods and consumer goods from non-friendly countries, alongside Russian propaganda. Import substitution is false for domestic consumption. It's time to stop punching yourself in the chest and boasting of "we are the best" now it is to everyone ... they try to correctly ignore them, like they are small children. First, tidy up the house and learn to work in your yard, and don't go where you were not invited.
    2. Aag
      0
      8 June 2020 19: 51
      "Yes nafig these" three bolts "of Russia did not give up."
      We continue to forget only about people whom we have surrendered together with the Union ...
  27. -3
    7 June 2020 00: 43
    Ten years bathed, because there was no experience. Now there is the experience of the Caucasus, Afghanistan, etc. There is a real special forces, which will clean up the partisans in a year or two, if not faster.
    If the task is set, we will take Lithuania in a few days. The rest did not rest against the garden.
    In general, in my opinion, the author nobly licked the Baltic states. But it’s not clear what would it be? )))
    1. 0
      9 June 2020 02: 44
      They are engaged in the same preparations for guerrilla warfare as modern Belarus. Or does someone not know? And in the Stalinist USSR, partisan bases began to be laid before the war. At the expense of modern technology (UAVs, thermal imaging cameras, sapyanins with an electronic concentration camp) - hasn’t something been destroyed in the Russian Federation yet? Mao Dzedong coped with the drug mafia for several years without any electronics. Why in our country, the authorities do not allow the people to create their own self-defense forces, to choose judges according to the constitution? Why are Russians dying off at such a pace? Why are stolen top officials not shot in the USSR and China? What the hell tribaltics, with such stability, Russia will simply disappear in 3 generations!
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    0
    7 June 2020 03: 19
    Just a question, from whom?
  29. 0
    7 June 2020 18: 55
    But in general ...., komoni need ?????
    And why capture them ?????
    The time will come, they themselves will sell themselves, at a cheap price.
  30. 0
    7 June 2020 19: 45
    take it easy. the Baltic states poses no threat to you laughing do not pay attention to politicians, they bark to the tune of the United States, and people as a whole are fully adequate and do not see the enemy in Russia. Of course there are people with brainwashed who hates Russians, although they have never been seen laughing (I'm talking about Lithuania)
  31. 0
    7 June 2020 20: 46
    Peacekeeping missions? You need to call a spade a spade. Baltic extinction troops regularly take part in armed interventions on the territory of independent states.
    1. -1
      7 June 2020 21: 38
      yes, they are mainly used only to create the image of a "coalition";)
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  33. -1
    8 June 2020 10: 23
    The brothers won by sending the nationalists out of the villages and villages. There was no food base. and the brothers are gone. The same thing happened in Ukraine. Something everywhere went a shaft of articles about the alleged attack of Russia on the Baltic states. Here, take a bite, you just need to demand compensation from them for the Nistadt Treaty ...
    1. +1
      8 June 2020 15: 01
      Interesting topic. My father served in Lithuania, the city of Alytus (this is where the paratroopers later stood) from 1948 to 1951, a heavy tank and self-propelled regiment. Mostly MGB units fought there, tankers were involved - planting in a 152 mm crypt from ISU-152, campaigning for the Soviet regime by driving the whole regiment throughout the night around the city, helps a lot. Forest brothers killed sentries, set mines. On a mine ran into a divorce guard, someone stepped in the middle. The father was thrown into the Neman with the Nachkar. Who pulled whom they did not understand. Probably it is necessary for children and grandchildren to write down the stories of the father that he remembered. And for partisan supporters, study the classics - partisans among peasants like a fish in water, in order to defeat the partisans you need to pour water. Yes, I agree, maybe everyone should go to Siberia and not, you can go to brick factories in Dagestan, and even give it to farmers, working Balts. Russia is a great place for everyone. Maybe someone knows the number of the regiment, there is a photo of the father on the background of the banner of the unit, the number is naturally not visible secrecy.
      1. -3
        8 June 2020 22: 00
        tebe s galavoj normalno? sam sebe mozes atvetyt, kakoe tvojo delo do pribaltyki ?? doma nesydytsa?
  34. 0
    8 June 2020 16: 46
    In case of war, they will not have partisans (after all, we are talking about a war and not about a police operation) Why? -Because -1 The small population contributes to depriving the partisans of all supply bases and the very motivation to resist (this is just about ideological) by temporarily or not very deportation of this population somewhere far away Option 2 Even worse for the partisans, the destruction of the population and they will come out on their own.But it is not humane and not necessary in connection with the possibility of the first option As for Switzerland, there is certainly the best blockade and therefore their "militarization" is also useless - they need to develop "energy content and food supply"
  35. 0
    8 June 2020 21: 07
    Whatever it was, the issue of developing territorial defense in the Kaliningrad region is vital. But for some reason this topic is in the red.
  36. 0
    8 June 2020 22: 34
    It seems that the author was ordered this article. Balts.
    And now the points:

    10 years ago, a scandal broke out in the Baltics, and it was precisely because of the forests. All of the forest was laid by Western banks. To support the local currency. When these countries began to switch to the euro, the bankers came to the forest. With revision. About 52% of all forests were cut down.
    Further .... The Baltic countries in NATO missions do not participate in battles. They have a purely police and rear mission. Well, about the forest brothers, the author is also disingenuous. For 10 years, they were catching not warring bandits, but those who sat on farms and shook with fear
    1. 0
      10 June 2020 02: 19
      Quote: DeKo
      ... the Baltic countries in NATO missions do not participate in battles. They have a pure police and rear mission

      You tell them dear, in Latvia there were characters who wanted to send a combat unit to a second Iraq. They wanted to send the special forces team, but they clamped on the grandmothers on uniform / equipment / surcharges and the guys had the mind to be indignant - they were prepared by an officer of the Kabul company. They turned away where they could in revenge. And those who are sent to the rear to poke gear outfit 'with the world a thread'.
      1. 0
        12 June 2020 17: 22
        Two Latvians even participated in the famous Combat Outpost Keating fight.
        The Lithuanians had their own region under their control and their MTRs acted for days and weeks in the rear of the Taliban, the Estonians were killed not 1 or 2, so INTO about "exclusively rear units" can even be ignored.
  37. 0
    8 June 2020 22: 40
    "how Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia will defend themselves" - everything is detailed in some detail, of course. Only the most important question is who they will defend against. "How they will defend themselves" - it depends on who will attack, how they will attack. I did not find this in the article. Really from NATO?
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    2. 0
      9 June 2020 19: 01
      73 years and life has taught nothing. in our country, anti-Russian hysteria is driven only by corrupt politicians and "useful and d and t s", whom the propaganda brainwashed that to hate the Russians is patriotism, but among them they hardly find this age. naschet fascism, it is more related to you, as far as your rhetoric, as a convinced national socialist.
  41. 0
    9 June 2020 00: 22
    Shoot in the back and cut out the sleeping ... that's, actually, all the tactics.
  42. 0
    9 June 2020 21: 40
    They are going to "partisan". Photos of yesterday and today.




    1. 0
      10 June 2020 23: 30
      First, the Lithuanian army was built under the protection of the territory, then they joined NATO, and those overshoes altered it to their standards. Now we have an army for one battle :(
      1. 0
        12 June 2020 17: 24
        What do you think will make CASP and arrows, in importance? The term territorial defense, what can you say?
  43. 0
    9 June 2020 23: 26
    "However, it is worth recalling that in the postwar years, the victorious Soviet army could not completely destroy the Baltic" forest brothers "for almost ten years,
    However, it is worth noting that the Soviet army did not fight with the forest brothers, as well as with the Ukrainian bandits. They tried to convince them that the war was over and their masters were defeated. When tired of persuading, the tyrannical state evicted them to Siberia and on that fairy tale end. All calmed down. For me, it was necessary to shoot.
  44. 0
    10 June 2020 21: 58
    most effectively they will be able to protect themselves from death - if they surrender and immediately go to the mines in Siberia or the taiga
  45. 0
    11 June 2020 21: 10
    How Labuses and Psheks defend themselves there is not so important. How the Kaliningrad region will protect itself is much more interesting ?! Unlike the Balts and Poles, we do not develop a reserve from local resources at all. Even the notorious "partisans" have not been recruited for a long time. Rely only on the troops of the Russian Federation, in the limited territory of the KLD. region and the possibility of rapid development of events - too frivolous
  46. +1
    11 June 2020 23: 44
    Reflections on the theme of the Baltic stubborn partisans.

    After the Second World War, the USSR pursued a very soft policy, therefore:
    many were forgiven, obviously serving fascism and smeared with criminal offenses went to the camp
    for 2 years (I do not remember exactly) the death penalty was abolished
    for a very long 3-4 years they eradicated the "partisans" who continued to kill the citizens of the USSR, trying not to destroy the "irresponsible"
  47. 0
    12 June 2020 01: 37
    Purely into space ... For some reason, some authors who precipitate when describing the incredible toughness of the Baltic military formations forget about the number of ethnic Russians arriving in the status of "non-citizens". And this is a quietly ticking bomb that can explode without any "occupation". Nobody canceled revenge for humiliation of human dignity. Secondly, a war with the enemy on his territory (scanty in essence) presupposes the use of means of destruction completely different from those that are applicable when "establishing constitutional order" at home.
    _____________________
    In the near future, we do not need the Baltic states even for the sake of sports interest. However, like Switzerland with its undeterred army.