DXL-5: in Russia they create a sniper rifle with a range of up to 7 km

The most long-range rifle in the world may soon be created by Russian gunsmiths. Its preliminary name is DXL-5.

About this news agency RIA News said Vladislav Lobaev, CEO of Lobaev Arms, which is developing a new weapons.

Today, the world's largest firing range provides the "Twilight" rifle, created by the same company. She is able to confidently hit targets at a distance of 2,5 kilometers, and her record range is 4200 meters.

Vladislav Lobaev claims that so far there are no sniper rifles in the world with a target range of 6-7 kilometers.

The main secret of the new weapon will be the cartridge developed for him, in which unusual innovative technologies will be applied. While not disclosed information on the caliber and other characteristics of the ammunition. We only know about its large cartridge size and high initial bullet speed. It is thanks to this special ammunition that the rifle will be able to hit targets at such a great distance.

The developers plan to complete the creation of the DXL-5 by the beginning of next year.

An important question for discussion is how effective such a weapon is for moving targets, because while a bullet travels a distance of 6-7 km, the target can shift significantly depending on speed. Therefore, the sniper will have to take into account many additional nuances, not to mention the usual nuances.

Comments

[neri73-r]

This rifle will have too narrow specialization, if it can be called that.

[vkl.47]

It’s not a cartridge there anymore, but some kind of rocket projectile. And as for moving targets, it’s now sights with a ballistic calculator.

[credo]

Quote: vkl.47

It’s not a cartridge there anymore, but some kind of rocket projectile. And as for moving targets, it’s now sights with a ballistic calculator.

It seems that the main chip will be in the bullet, which will be equipped as a smart warhead with all the bells and whistles on the principle of "shot and forgot." A specific product will always find its "buyer".

[Shurik70]

Quote: vkl.47

It’s not a cartridge there anymore, but some kind of rocket projectile. And as for moving targets, it’s now sights with a ballistic calculator.

Well, purely in theory, the higher the speed and range, the longer the projectile should be elongated. It will be more like a needle than a bullet.
And yes, most likely the bullet is controllable. No matter how accurate the computing complex is, it does not calculate air inhomogeneities. And from the "small" air hole at the beginning of the path to the finish, the bullet will deviate by half a meter, or more.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: vkl.47

it’s not a cartridge anymore but some kind of rocket.

"Krasnopol" for shooting.

[Alex777]

The cartridge is secret.
For what purposes - secretly.
Who will shoot from this is a secret.
In short, cast a shadow on a white day.
A rifle for the president. Like in the movie The Jackal.

[Deck]

The standing range of a standing person is about 5 km. Is this arquebus for overseas shooting? Satellite guidance?

[NIKN]

Something tells me that in this implementation, a bullet will cost more than a rifle.

[Alex777]

The standing range of a standing person is about 5 km.

Underestimate the imagination of the developers.
What if shooting from one mountain to another?

[Xscorpion]

I think that this is just about shooting up to 5km at stationary targets. 7 km is more likely the maximum range of a bullet, about accuracy and slaughter at such distances, things will not go there anymore, just journalists pulled it by the ears.

[Deck]

Quote: Xscorpion

about shooting up to 5km on stationary targets

Barn?

[SHURUM -BURUM]

At such a distance, he will not get anywhere. Due to the refraction of the beam in the vertical heat fluxes of the atmosphere, it will a priori aim past. The Americans know this and are working on a bullet capable of homing at the final stage of the flight. Yes, and for such a distance, it will no longer be a sight, but a telescope. This comrade-designer made me laugh.

[Zoomlion]

And what else should be? Queues for moving infantry? Especially for those grandmothers. Each product has its own merchant. Lobaev is far from knowing what he is doing, especially for his money

[Kalmar]

Quote: neri73-r

This rifle will be too narrow specialization

Like all Lobaev rifles. This one has: marketing, and possibly sports. Well, and where without it, a toy for those who have money and desire.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Kalmar

Like all Lobaev rifles. This one has: marketing, and possibly sports. Well, and where without it, a toy for those who have money and desire.

Not only. Lobaev has a tacit competition with the Americans, who were leaders in this type of shooting.

This story began a few years ago when Russian shooter and manufacturer of high-precision long-range rifles Vlad Lobaev saw a video on YouTube where peppy old people from Texas from a rifle hit a target at a distance of 3600 yards (3292 m). Vlad decided to accept the challenge and compete with the Americans.

Most likely, this rifle will also be Dusk, only heavily pumped. The bullet is conical.

[Deck]

The bullet is conical.

What? !!!

[NEXUS]

Quote: Deck

What? !!!

Pay attention to the bow of the bullet; it is created in a cone and is more pointed than a conventional bullet.
Perhaps a sub-caliber feathered bullet will be used. Although unlikely ..

[Deck]

Yeah, there’s still a cone in the back, so the "two-cone Nexus"

Like this ?:

[opus]

Quote: NEXUS

Most likely, this rifle will also be Dusk, only heavily pumped. The bullet is conical.

For a tank gun, it was expensive, very, even during the war
for a rifle will also be "a little expensive"

Quote: Author

Vladislav Lobaev claims that so far there are no sniper rifles in the world with a target range of 6-7 kilometers.

and who needs standards?
meaning?
1. Altitude 1,75 m (average person’s height) = Distance to the horizon 4,7 km
2. scattering loss coefficient for different rain intensities:

drizzling rain (0,6 mm / h) - ar = 0,15 km ^ -1;
average rain (1-2 mm / hour) - ar = 0,3-0,4 km ^ -1;
heavy rain (3-6 mm / hour) - ar = 0,5-0,8 km ^ -1.
In extreme cases, the rain intensity can reach 25-30 mm / hour, which creates a loss coefficient of ar 2,5 km ^ -1. The scattering loss coefficients for snow precipitation are close to the rain loss coefficients.
Thus, the atmospheric loss coefficient in the most adverse situations is determined mainly by the dispersion of haze and fog on aerosols. During heavy rain or snow, the possibilities of using a laser rangefinder are very limited, and assessments in these terms are pursuing a cognitive purpose rather than a practical one. In the case of high transparency of the atmosphere, the role of absorption increases, especially when operating at a wavelength of 10,6 μm, where the effect of scattering is less significant than at shorter waves.

Testing experience showed that a dark target against a light background (against a background of white snow), located at a distance of several kilometers, is visible as a barely visible spot that does not have clear contours, in conditions of haze or fog ...

Quote: Deck

What? !!!

Gerlich's bullet

Already at speeds of 1450-1470 m / s, a Gerlich rifle bullet weighing 6,5 g, an effective diameter of only 6,35 mm, with a lead core at a distance of 50 m, broke through (and not punched) in a steel armor sheet 12 mm thick with a diameter 15 mm, and in thick armor made a funnel of 15 mm in depth and 25 mm in diameter. The usual 7,92 mm Mauser combat rifle bullet left only a small 2-3 mm recess on such armor.

Salvo Squeezebore project

[Rusticolus]

All of these calculations about the possible range of the shot at the obstacle standing on the surface of the "earth" are certainly interesting, but only from a theoretical point of view. For they are completely broken about the realities of life. All record shots, and we are talking about them, are fired at a target located at a decent elevation, sometimes up to tens of meters. Or there is a hollow between the shooter and the target. In the video laid out a little higher at 3.46, it is clearly visible that the surface there is very far from horizontal. But with visibility - that's right, this is a real problem, but it is practically solved by choosing the right place and weather condition with the best parameters. Well, the question is - to whom and for what it is needed, all the more so for expensive? Well, you are not surprised by cars with jet engines accelerating to supersonic speeds. They are definitely not being collected in order to drive to the bakery. Everything is trite and simple at the same time, and is explained with just one word - Record.

[Yrec]

No specialization, a rifle is created for a single shot at these same 6-7 km. The cartridge is much more interesting, because all that the Lobayevites fired before was the American "cheat". And here they are "developing a cartridge." Well, let's see.

[Rusticolus]

Actually not quite right. Yes, these are all the same “readers” but made according to their specifications for a specific barrel. And yes, the specialization of the whole complex is one - a record shot. At the expense of a cartridge of its own design, I am also interested in the same. But the wording, especially in the translation of a journalist, is too vague. There may be a caliber of its own, which will certainly be because bullets are made for a specific barrel and the concept of caliber is not particularly significant there in practice, there may be its own sleeve, there may be its own bullet. Rather, even all of this is in place. For individual changes will be anyway. The question is how significant they will be, and whether there will be something fundamentally different from previous cartridges in them.

[iouris]

Quote: neri73-r

This rifle will be too narrow specialization

Think the blessed nineties are back?

[neri73-r]

Quote: iouris

Quote: neri73-r

This rifle will be too narrow specialization

Think the blessed nineties are back?

We are unlikely so far, but in the states, apparently, you can already offer it, there, along the way, it all starts.

[Kalmar]

Quote: neri73-r

We are unlikely so far, but in the states, apparently, you can already offer it, there, along the way, it all starts.

Yes, against the crowd - the very thing: you take the trunk, swing harder and crave ... The effective range and stopping effect is two times more than that of a baseball bat))

[neri73-r]

Quote: Kalmar

Yes, against the crowd - the very thing:

I'm not talking about this, I'm talking about the beginning of the 90s in the states.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: neri73-r

This rifle will have too narrow specialization, if it can be called that.

It should have jet bullets, a cartridge weighing at least 1 kg, and a laser target illumination system, then the speed of the target is not so important. "I think so." Not special.

[Kalmar]

Quote: Mavrikiy

It should have jet bullets, a cartridge weighing at least 1 kg, and a laser target illumination system

... and here you have invented anti-tank systems))

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Kalmar

... and here you have invented anti-tank systems))

Yes, but only small and cozy
The difference between a bullet and a rocket is known to you. 1. According to the consequences. 2. Time of defeat

[Skay]

cozy

And what is there about recoil? ...

[Shkworen]

rifle mass-projectile :)

[loki565]

Maybe they will struggle with the ATGM calculations, like we shot at a maximum of 4km and then in good weather.

[Maz]

Nonsense. anyone who knows how much knows that the horizon of a person with a height of 1m80cm is 5km. She cho will bullet over the horizon? Lying, and from the trench too? Or will the bullets be controllable? They shot their record at 4210m and caught the wind at least ten times ...

A 4210 meter bullet flies 19 seconds, I am silent about the wind at different heights and ranges of the trajectory. To what ? Be noted in the Guinness Book of Records? Maybe it is better to saturate the Russian army with solid long-range snipers and high-quality target cartridges? And also sights including night ones? watch video from 25 minutes and 50 seconds

[Rusticolus]

And what does the team involved in the development of record weapons individually and at their own expense, and the Russian army? Your logic is much closer ... what for we tank biathlon, only burn fuel and shells waste in vain, especially breech. I’m completely silent about all kinds of ISS and Lunokhods, would it be better to give each one at least a Grant?

[Vasyan1971]

The main secret of the new weapon will be the cartridge developed for him, in which unusual innovative technologies will be applied.

Well yes. A shot from it will cost, as from the main caliber of the Zamvolta. And in demand about the same ...
Whatever the child would amuse, if only he would not hold his hands under the covers.

[seregatara1969]

Snipers gunners from an anti-tank gun at 2000 meters fall into the brick. What rifle is needed for a rifle to shoot at 7 km?

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: seregatara1969

What rifle is needed for a rifle to shoot at 7 km?

A rifle needs a head, first of all, how and in order to ask smart questions. , and ....

[Mordvin 3]

Well, and on a fig? To shoot at motionless boobies? While the bullet reaches, the fighter will already evaporate.

[vkl.47]

And who said that the fighter? Maybe it will be like an anti-tank gun.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: vkl.47

maybe it will be like an anti-tank gun.

How many seconds does a bullet fly?

[Holgerton]

For modern "anti-tank" anti-material rifles, kinetic energy is important when in contact with the target, but here, excuse me, that in the "Dusk" for 4 km, which is most likely in the DXL-5 for 6-7 km, the bullet flies along a parabola, like art . a projectile, it loses most of its energy already at half the distance and hits the target at the end, the question is, what will it then break through? The maximum that it will be possible to break through is the conditional BTR-70/80, and even with great luck, but based on the fact that this is a niche weapon that requires high-quality guidance devices and a ballistic computer, it’s already possible to correct it at a distance of 6-7 km a small UAV will be needed, because a simple sight and binoculars are simply not enough, since the range is “beyond the horizon” and there are very few open spaces, plus special “innovative” cartridges, plus the rifle itself is not cheap.
For that kind of money, it will be possible to buy an 82-mm mortar with a full ammunition and a quadrocopter or even a small UAV, which is many times more effective against armored vehicles than any rifles.

[Oleg Zorin]

82 mm at 7 km will not reach. Here Sanichka needs 120 mm, and then 7 km is at the limit

[Holgerton]

Here I agree, the standard 82 mm work for 4 km, but for 2C12 with BC, you need a more or less specialized transport such as MT-LB, GAZ-66, while the 82 mm can still be tried to move the forces of calculation, or transport on an army SUV, which is much easier.

[Kalmar]

Quote: vkl.47

maybe it’s like an anti-tank gun

From seven kilometers? At such a range, something armored can no longer be flashed; you need something unprotected, large, motionless and fragile enough to deteriorate with one or two shots. A rifle for shooting fuel trucks in the parking lot? )))

It seems to me, obviously, that such shooting has no special practical meaning. Just a demonstrator of advertising opportunities.

[Rusticolus]

And if in place of seven, well, let's say three? Do you know a lot of rifles that confidently hit targets with sufficient kinetics at such a distance? There is practical sense in this - development and testing of new technologies on a prototype. Moreover, there is a small private team, and not the whole institute of Moscow Region. Well, do not forget that this is one way or another, but still an advertisement for Russian weapons. You won’t tell me ... why are all kinds of Knights and Swifts with Golden Eagles burning fuel for nothing at air shows?

[Kalmar]

Quote: Rusticolus

And if in place of seven, well, let's say three?

I don’t say anything about three, although in a real combat situation no one even shot at three kilometers. And at shorter ranges (2500-2700 m), successful shots were largely due to luck.

Quote: Rusticolus

There is practical sense in this - development and testing of new technologies on a prototype

You read my comment inattentively. There is no sense in shooting at 7 km per se. But about the development of weapons that can crank up such a trick - yes, of course, there are. This is both technical research and marketing effect. My phrase about promotional opportunities demonstrator - She is without any negative connotation.

[yfast]

At 7km, a bullet needs to be fired with a nuclear warhead.

[Piramidon]

Quote: yfast

At 7km, a bullet needs to be fired with a nuclear warhead.

And a telescope as an optical sight.

[iouris]

Quote: Piramidon

telescope as an optical sight.

preferably over-the-horizon

[Sky strike fighter]

Do you need a nuclear warhead for shooting at 4210 meters?

SVLK-14 "Twilight"
The work of weapons art by the hand of the creator of high-precision long-range rifles Vlad Lobaev does not just hit two kilometers on target: “Dusk” holds a world record for firing range - 4210 meters. Not only the fantastic range of targeted shooting distinguishes the Lobaev rifle. Accuracy of shooting is less than 0.2 MOA groups of 5 shots, and this is with the powerful 408 Cheytac cartridge (nominal caliber 10 mm). By the way, the closest competitor of "Dusk" to the American CheyTac M200 with the same cartridge declared accuracy of 1 MOA (considered a very good result of accuracy), which makes a huge difference at such distances.

The body of the SVLK-14 receiver is made of aviation aluminum with a threaded insert made of highly alloyed corrosion-resistant steel, and the KING V3.0 gate group is made of it. By the way, the shutter itself is single-shot - in "Twilight" everything is done to ensure maximum rigidity. The total length of the weapon is 1570 mm, of which 900 mm fall on the Lobaev Hummer Barrels match barrel.

https://www.popmech.ru/weapon/549324-pyat-samyh-dalnoboynyh-super-vintovok-v-mire/

[neri73-r]

Do you need a nuclear warhead for shooting at 4210 meters?

And how much time did it take to prepare the number of shots to adjust when taking the record, you know?

[Korax71]

Well ??? what are you putting this info here for? A piece of work, compared to a commercially available rifle, aren't you funny yourself? .Lobaev, like an old shooter of bench rest, did what he had been doing all his life. Rifles gathering groups at 4-0.2 moa in bench rest are considered normal. There are cases when heaps are collected at BR competitions and 0.25-0.1 moa .

[Per se.]

Quote: yfast

bullet needed with a nuclear warhead

So, they were created ...

It turns out that it was in our country back in the days of the USSR, when we achieved military parity (or even advantages) with the United States, that atomic bullets were created. And not only created, but also tested! It was about ammunition caliber 14,3 mm and 12,7 mm for heavy machine guns. However, it was possible to create a bullet of 7,62 mm caliber, but not only for a Kalashnikov assault rifle, but for his easel machine gun. This cartridge also became the smallest nuclear weapon in the world.
When the transuranic element California was discovered - more precisely, its isotope with an atomic weight of 252, it turned out that it had a critical mass of only 1,8 grams!

The ammunition itself is simple to incredibility: a tiny part weighing 5-6 grams is made from California, in shape resembling a dumbbell from two hemispheres on a thin leg. A tiny explosive charge inside a bullet crushes it into a neat ball, which has a diameter of 7.62 mm for a 8-mm bullet, which causes a supercritical state and ... everything - a nuclear explosion is ensured! To detonate the charge, a contact fuse was used, which was placed inside the bullet - that's the whole "bomb for the gun"! As a result, the bullet, however, turned out to be much heavier than usual, therefore, in order to maintain the usual ballistic characteristics, a charge of gunpowder of increased power had to be placed in the sleeve.

However, the main problem that ultimately decided the fate of this unique munition is the heat generation caused by the continuous decay of California.
Therefore, the storage of such bullets required a special refrigerator, which had the appearance of a copper plate about 15 cm thick with nests of 30 rounds. Between them there were channels through which coolant circulated under pressure - liquid ammonia, which provided the bullets with a temperature of about -15 °. This installation consumed about 200 watts of power supply, and weighed approximately 110 kg, so that it could only be transported in a specially equipped jeep.

Read more at https://www.pravda.ru/eureka/1235207-atom/

[KCA]

The nonsense about nuclear bullets has already been debunked 100500 times, the current price for one gram of California is about 250 million rubles, such a normal bullet, for more than one and a half billion, and earlier the cost of California was even higher

[cat Rusich]

yfast, maybe Lobaev has "nuclear bullets" ... On the Internet you can see materials about them. Caliber from 7,62 to 14,3 mm, BB - California 252, charge mass about 6 g, power from 100 to 700 kg of TNT. Store in the freezer at -15 degrees, the time for a shot along with preparation for 30 minutes, then again in the freezer. Shelf life of a "nuclear bullet" is about 5 years. Maybe Lobaev makes a rifle under the "order of Comrade X"? - which has something to charge the DXL-5 ...

[Kalmar]

Quote: cat Rusich

maybe Lobaev has "nuclear bullets"

As rightly noted above, one real "nuclear bullet" will cost more than the entire Lobaev’s office with equipment and personnel (in terms of the cost of the organs). Well, in most countries for buying such a bullet you can sit on a bottle of justice for 20 years))

[cat Rusich]

"... Maybe Lobaev makes a rifle under the" order of Comrade X "- who has something to charge the DXL-5 ..."

[fn34440]

Engines for the cartridge will deliver Ilon Mask with NASA or Yuzhmashzavod? Particularly concerned about the engine. for the first march stage of the cartridge. And how long does the trunk need, at such a distance?

[Sky strike fighter]

Does Yuzhmashzavod make engines? Seriously?

[mark1]

A concept such as your Yuzhmash has long been atavism, so accept this and my condolences.

[Lord of the Sith]

Only if Lobaev composes a new cartridge .... At such a distance shoot it from the category of fiction.

[Zoomlion]

Have you carefully read the article? "The main secret of the new weapon will be the cartridge developed for him, in which unusual innovative technologies will be applied. So far, information on the caliber and other characteristics of the ammunition has not been disclosed. It is only known about its large cartridge size and high initial velocity of the bullet. It is thanks to this special ammunition that the rifle can hit targets at such a great distance "

[Lord of the Sith]

Have you carefully tried to read my comment?

"Only if Lobaev composes a new cartridge."

And to promise this does not mean to do it.

[Tzar]

Will the bullet be with WIGOS?

[Free wind]

The rifle will have a caliber of 100 mm, high-explosive fragmentation rounds. Nosterdamus will be attached to the rifle, he will predict the next movements of the potential victim.

[The leader of the Redskins]

I know this sniper ...
It was only called 2A46, had a caliber of 125 mm and was mounted on the T72!

[arhitroll]

Do you need to do ads with a delay in the exact place where you click on topics?

[Alexey-74]

It is hard to imagine how to shoot at 7 km .......

[Gato]

how to shoot at 7 km

Probably from the Ostankino television tower

[Shteffan]

A controlled bullet at 6-7 km will go. Only a controlled one.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Steffan

A controlled bullet at 6-7 km will go. Only a controlled one.

There was talk of a "hypersonic cartridge"! About the managed ... homing ... pool there was no mention in the "light of recent facts" ...!

[ApJlekuHo]

Well this is on what path, the bullet will fly 7km. Or call it a projectile .. jet winged bullet, with a homing system.

[Moxolov]

An important question for discussion is how effective such a weapon is for moving targets, because while a bullet travels a distance of 6-7 km, the target can shift significantly depending on speed. Therefore, the sniper will have to take into account many additional nuances, not to mention the usual nuances.

Well, such rifles are obviously for top-level specialists .. (wind, sun, temperature, terrain, etc.) To learn this for years .. Here intuition and patience are the main thing .. I remember the maximum record of 2 km was to get into a small the goal .. Well then .. I hope to break the record with such a rifle!
The main thing is to shoot and feel it, as its continuation of the body and eye ... Then it works, but not at all ..!

[tarakan]

7 km. maximum range of defeat, imagine lethal force and a minimum of amendments per 1 km.

[Kicum]

We would like that during the Crimean War! Ah .... dreams ..

[fn34440]

Why bespontovoy dissolve a broom with an unnecessary announcement about the production of new weapons.?
The Chinese do everything quietly and succeed in the suddenness and secrecy of the creation.
Trump will win over tomorrow, the Pentagon is preparing to create a sniper dodorg, naughty for 15 km. And they will do it. Photonic. Neural. Laser-isotopic. Cumulative missile. and so forth

[Rusfaner]

Some kind of bullshit! What to shoot out of sight of it? Is that a direct shot significantly "lengthen". So for this, the MT-12 is great and the "cartridge" is more powerful. And the look is equally monstrous.

[rotmistr60]

The application is clearly designed for advertising (although the company has a name and successful development). Will such a weapon be in demand, that’s the question?

[Alexfly]

And fig goat button accordion ??

[novel66]

Loze button accordion my plow!

[Kelwin]

In fact, the sniper’s goal is not only manpower, but also a mass of stationary objects, light equipment, communications, field depots of fuels and lubricants and ammunition, and so on. They even considered the possibility of defeating ICBMs at the start. Effectively covering the area even at 1000m is problematic, but here 7km. Yes, no matter how much the shot costs, a secretive defeat from such a distance without unmasking the position will be justified a hundred times, and in some cases this may even become the key to the whole operation.

[Herman 4223]

It seems logical, but it seems to me that with such a rifle you can’t run especially far behind enemy lines, it will probably have good dimensions and weight.

[Kelwin]

Well, yes, she will weigh of course. On the other hand, the AGSs were dragging) But, kmk, this tool is ideal for a mobile support group, and they don’t need to pull themselves close. In any case, such a radical expansion of opportunities is a very significant moment; covering an object is probably complicated at times. Well, there will be something to be proud of, not without it of course))

[Old26]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Does Yuzhmashzavod make engines? Seriously?

Actually doing

Quote: ApJlekuHo

Well this is on what path, the bullet will fly 7km. Or call it a projectile .. jet winged bullet, with a homing system.

Will be a caliber of more than 20 mm - will be called a shell

[ApJlekuHo]

SVLK-14 "Dusk" sighting range 2km. 4km is its maximum slaughter range (hit from a distance of 4210 m in 2017, “Record with closed eyes” ..).
It’s physically impossible to shoot at 7 km sighting from a rifle - a bullet through optics, if we are talking about a bullet flying under the influence of powder gases, does artillery blow with an accuracy of + \ - .. a cool bullet with jet propulsion and constant acceleration? Gravity forces and air resistance forces, still no one has canceled. And shoot from the NE in the free artillery trajectory, at 7 km? Well, you can probably. By banks, at random)

[Undecim]

Such a prodigy does not have any practical value. Exclusively promotional product that serves to attract attention to the company.

[novel66]

Russian gunsmiths. Its preliminary name is DXL-5.

and what? thoroughly Russian name ..

[KVU-NSVD]

An interesting rifle of course. One question - what the hell?

[An64]

For a sniper who is masked, at a distance of 7 km, the height of the target should be at least 3,5 m.
Is it that on the third floor someone will need to be removed ...

[Zaurbek]

For the price of this rifle and cartridge and optics, you can probably buy a Cornet with a HE rocket and shoot the same way.

[Herman 4223]

At this range, you need to have a correctable bullet in flight.

[7,62h54]

An important question is not only about the defeat of moving targets, but also what would these goals be seen and recognized.

[ser56]

but not easier than a rocket?

[L-39NG]

If the observer’s eyes are at a height of 1,7 m above the place where he stands (on a perfectly round globe, without natural obstacles), the horizon is approximately 4,7 km from this observer. Eyes at an altitude of 100 m (a building or a tower, some kind of thing), the horizon at a distance of about 36 km. If we are talking about a rifle, then shooting from a hand, or from a lying position with a double or double and with support under the butt, the horizon will be closer than 4 km. Then, the sight. Astronomical telescope? Electronic zoom? Normal, not ideal atmosphere - dust, water vapor, vertical and horizontal movement of air masses. The picture will shake as if in a fever. Large objects will be visible. But from a rifle on the walls of high-rise buildings? The mortar will be more reliable and more truly. You can, of course, put such a rifle on a heavy platform with a remote control.

[Sentinel-vs]

Even for anti-tank missiles, the possibility of launching at such a range is not considered mandatory. It is very rarely possible to shoot directly from the ground on the ground at such a range. As a rule, folds of terrain, buildings, trees will prevent aiming. But it would be better if such an opportunity was of course, than it would not be. )

[Victor Shirokov]

Quote: neri73-r

Quote: iouris

Quote: neri73-r

This rifle will be too narrow specialization

Think the blessed nineties are back?

We are unlikely so far, but in the states, apparently, you can already offer it, there, along the way, it all starts.

will the dollar collapse soon?))) or Yellowstone will explode)?

[Ros 56]

Or they may not create how much you can play in the promises.

[av58]

Have you held at least one rifle in their hands? The Lobaevs created several models, and not their language.

[Ros 56]

We heard this - don’t give me a gop until you jump over, and behave like serious people. Another topic - they did not boast about going to the army, they boasted about going to rati.
Let the striped ones heel in the chest beat, what an exceptional they are, and already 110 have died and almost 000 million have become infected.

[Wedmak]

Not so long ago, the Military Acceptance showed shooting at 4 km ... they hit the target only on the second day. In the same place, even a target is visible in optics, and the bullet flies for several tens of seconds (I won’t lie, I don’t remember exactly how much). I wonder how the wind will be taken into account at such a distance ... What accuracy can we talk about? Is it to cram into an bullet an optical sensor with rudders and a battery.

[Kisa]

this is a specific type of entertainment for anyone further and is not suitable for practice. they pull a sheet there 10x10m and shoot at 45 bullets at the drop falls almost vertically. A shot counts if it arrives at a 1x1m target.

[Elephant]

So what is it about, the range of a shot or the range of destruction?

[Vadim237]

At a distance of 6 - 7 kilometers, a computer sight to help them.

[Ingenegr]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Accuracy of shooting is less than 0.2 MOA groups of 5 shots, and this is with the powerful 408 Cheytac cartridge (nominal caliber 10 mm). By the way, the closest competitor of "Dusk" to the American CheyTac M200 with the same cartridge declared accuracy of 1 MOA (considered a very good result of accuracy), which makes a huge difference at such distances.

The accuracy of 0.2 MOA for NWM and 1 MOA for CT are determined per 100 m. At 1000 m, it will creep well, and the reason for this will be the influence of external factors and aiming errors. At 4000 m, the influence of these factors completely eliminates the difference in accuracy between these rifles and makes the probability of hitting a target 1x1 m in size from one, from another artillery system is approximately equal. Preparing a shot, shooting and shooting before an offset hit takes time sufficient to conduct at least several dozen launches of ATGMs of the "Competition" or "Cornet" type. At the same time, the ATGM will ensure a guaranteed target defeat at the maximum during the second or third launch. Most often, the desired result will be achieved by the first launch.
As for the record firing and advertising of weapons for them - this is just the sporting interest of a group of people. This is not bad - it is good. The boundaries of opportunities should always be expanded. You just should not look for a practice of today in a purely sporting interest. Especially for champions. As far as I know, they themselves do not insist on guaranteed repeatability of the achieved result "from the sheet" anywhere and anytime.

[Zaurbek]

Moreover, the ATGM does not have to hit exactly the target, There are 5-6kg of explosives.

[Keldysh Mstislav]

I shot a lot from various weapons with optical sights. I have a question. What kind of optical sight should be mounted on a hypothetical weapon, in order to identify the target ????

[av58]

It's hard to say, but the brothers are very passionate about their work, for them it is more than business. We wish them good luck and see what happens.

[sanya]

At a speed of a bullet of 2 km / s it will be very effective to shoot at 4 km
Something like today's rifles
Shoot at 1200 meters and 7 km is the maximum theoretically possible range
And such a cartridge can be produced in different calibres for different tasks

[KSVK]

Quote: Herman 4223

At this range, you need to have a correctable bullet in flight.

Not necessary. The bullet will fly anyway. The question is the size of the target.
Sport of high achievements and demonstration of opportunities. No practical value. Minute (angular) at this range will be 2,03 m.
Well, the wind. Horse especially. Lottery.

[KSVK]

Quote: Zaurbek

For the price of this rifle and cartridge and optics, you can probably buy a Cornet with a HE rocket and shoot the same way.

I think that it will be possible to buy Cornet and not one ...

[Incvizitor]

Umm, do we have sights to realize this range? I doubt about dusk ...

[Nikolaevich I]

Now we are working on a rifle and a cartridge with a record range of six to seven kilometers and confident shooting three kilometers. The preliminary name of the project is DXL-5, ”he explained.
The same weapons family includes Lobaev Arms products. DXL-4 "Sevastopol" и DXL-3 Retribution.
The most long-range is now a rifle "Dusk"produced by the same company. It confidently hits the target at a range of two and a half kilometers. The record range for a weapon is 4,2 kilometers.
Under DXL-5 will create a new cartridge. It has several technological innovations, thanks to which it will be possible to fire at a specified distance. Shaw for a cartridge, we will shake, we will see ... In the available articles, next to the name of Lobaev, a "hypersonic cartridge" is mentioned. The speed of a bullet of such a cartridge should reach 2000 m / s ... whereas in the previous "rifles" -1200 m / s ... They are going to achieve the required performance characteristics after replacing the gunpowder with a "special throwing substance"! The "ability" of management ... homing is not mentioned ...

[Wedmak]

The speed of a bullet of such a cartridge should reach 2000 m / s ... whereas in the previous "rifles" -1200 m / s

At the cut of the barrel, then the bullet will slow down quite quickly.

[av58]

At the exhibition, I met the Lobaev brothers, very adequate and non-prominent, no show-offs, everything is simple. Very passionate about their work. Good luck to them.

[sergo1914]

From the MLRS in one gulp. Cheap and reliable. Why fence a garden?

[Dikson]

Is it best to shoot it in a vacuum?

[martin-159]

Spherical horses.

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: Maz

Nonsense. anyone who knows how much knows that the horizon of a person with a height of 1m80cm is 5km. She cho will bullet over the horizon? Lying, and from the trench too? Or will the bullets be controllable? They shot their record at 4210m and caught the wind at least ten times ...

A 4210 meter bullet flies 19 seconds, I am silent about the wind at different heights and ranges of the trajectory. To what ? Be noted in the Guinness Book of Records? Maybe it is better to saturate the Russian army with solid long-range snipers and high-quality target cartridges? And also sights including night ones? watch video from 25 minutes and 50 seconds

From mountain to mountain, you can see for 20 km. Is there any claim that they are going to hit motorcyclists? On a motionless target, I think. If there is a biathlon, where accuracy is also not the last thing, then what kind of competition cannot come from this?
And the last thing is to arm a soldier, albeit a special one, not a private sage. Let the defense ministers think so. Everyone let him do his own thing. Then, it may well be that the prestige will be in place, and the soldier is armed not with the only ones, but with rather widespread pieces of iron.

[Prisoner]

If you work at maximum range, then it’s just right for the photographer to shout “I take off my attention”. That the goal would stand still at attention. Otherwise, while the bullet flies, he may come up with the idea to lie down or go around the corner.