Polish Su-22 fighters still fly: exclusive rights to repair AL-21F3 declared


The Polish military announced the completion of negotiations and the conclusion of an agreement providing for the overhaul of AL-21F3 aircraft engines, which are equipped with Su-22 fighters, which are still in service with the country's air force.


The company Wojskowe Zakłady Lotnicze nr 2 SA, specializing in the repair of aircraft, was chosen as the contractor, since, according to the customer, she is the sole owner of the technical documentation for these engines, which gives this company exclusive rights to work with AL-21F3.

The amount of the contract is $ 3,04 million. In total, 18 Su-22s are planned to be brought back to life. They plan to operate their Polish Air Force until the exhaustion of the resource, which was extended in 2014. Airplanes still fly, despite the Polish desire to acquire new American-made fighters.

These aircraft have very low combat value, but they are intensively used, for example, in training JTAC operators [leading combat aircraft from the front line] or radar station calculations

- The Defense24 edition writes, commenting on the decision to return the Su-22 to flight condition.

For our part, we note that questions are raised by statements about the exclusive rights of the Polish company WZL No. 2 to the AL-21F3 engine. This power plant was developed in the Soviet OKB-165 on the basis of AL-21F, differing from it in increased traction and improved characteristics.
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  1. Pvi1206 5 June 2020 05: 29 New
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    deja vu ... why not replace it with American equipment? ... gas was replaced with American? ...
  2. The leader of the Redskins 5 June 2020 05: 29 New
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    It’s hard to imagine the Su 22 as a combat unit in the event of a conflict on a European theater ... As a participant in an air show, it’s still gone where.
    1. bayard 5 June 2020 08: 45 New
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      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      It is difficult to imagine the Su 22 as a combat unit in the event of a conflict on a European theater of operations.

      And A-10?
      Not hard ?
      And they are being capitalized, modernized ...
      Су-17\Су-22 - истребитель-бомбардировщик по советской классификации . Прекрасно подходит для штурмовых ударов , атаки с малых высот и бомбометания с кабрирования . Лётчики их очень любили и с неохотой переучивались на Су-24 . Надёжные , удобные в обслуживании и боевом применении . Боевые возможности могут быть расширены при помощи подвесных контейнеров .
      In addition, they are very fast.
      1. You have a strange comment.
        If we compare the number of upgrades, then B52 is indisputably in the first place.
        With the "warthog" - generally not correct. Absolutely not that class of aircraft.
        Well, if with classmates, then I don’t remember anymore, the “jaguar” and the “tornado” are still in service or not.
        Of course, if you mean maintainability ... That may be right.
        1. bayard 5 June 2020 12: 59 New
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          Why is it strange? As an weapons platform, he is no worse than any classmate, and presenting his combat work in a modern conflict will not be a stretch. This is a strike plane and partly a battlefield plane, and perhaps older than the Warthog.
          The drummer does not conduct an air battle. The sighting and navigation system can be upgraded or a hanging container can be used. And he does not take speed, maintainability and ease of use. Therefore, all the owners keep it in service until the resource is exhausted. As a rule - until complete exhaustion.
          hi
      2. avg
        avg 5 June 2020 12: 26 New
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        Quote: bayard
        And they are being capitalized, modernized ...

        They are modernizing the Su-22, upgrading the Mi-2, trying to upgrade the T-72 and BMP-1. And where is the "Proud Polish Genius", is it really all busy cleaning the British sort? request
      3. Antokha 5 June 2020 12: 33 New
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        I confirm. I personally know pilots who responded very well to the Su-17 / Su-22 and Kayre. I know one of its designers. This is a front-line bomber, not a fighter, and he performed his tasks perfectly. These tasks are not out of date even now, and weapons could easily be updated, including high precision. They wrote off planes early because of Yeltsin.
        1. ancient 5 June 2020 13: 53 New
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          Quote: Anton
          which responded very well to the Su-17 / Su-22 and Kayre.

          If I completely agree with the first, then from the second ... where did they come from on the Su-17s .. Kaira (was Von, was Maple), and Kaira was only "planned" on the Su-17M4, but ... ... it was too big wink
          1. Antokha 5 June 2020 20: 21 New
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            Quote: ancient
            and Kaira was only “planned” on the Su-17M4, but ...... it turned out to be too big

            That's what they said about the Su-17M4 in this connection
          2. Doliva63 5 June 2020 21: 11 New
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            Quote: ancient
            Quote: Anton
            which responded very well to the Su-17 / Su-22 and Kayre.

            If I completely agree with the first, then from the second ... where did they come from on the Su-17s .. Kaira (was Von, was Maple), and Kaira was only "planned" on the Su-17M4, but ... ... it was too big wink

            In the Su-17 in which district flew, if not secret?
            1. ancient 6 June 2020 10: 26 New
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              Quote: Doliva63
              if it `s not a secret?

              Secret (General) wink) in one military research institute, in one .. "semi-civil" bully
              1. Doliva63 7 June 2020 20: 48 New
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                Quote: ancient
                Quote: Doliva63
                if it `s not a secret?

                Secret (General) wink) in one military research institute, in one .. "semi-civil" bully

                In Siversky, when there were Su-17s in service, in the zone 3 of the AE there were institute planes — not yours? laughing drinks
                1. ancient 8 June 2020 16: 30 New
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                  Quote: Doliva63
                  Institutional aircraft were in zone 3 of the AE — not yours?

                  I find it difficult to answer, in those days I was just finishing the "school" (in 1974).
                  But according to the experience, the SRIs never flew on their “own” cars .... they donated to the “tests” either from the factory or from the “system” (the regiment engineers didn’t like this thing .. to give their cars away for eat).
                  Most likely there was some stage of military trials, and there is already creating a combined team of institute and local pilots who are involved in this topic. and the planes are already combatant.
                  In my memory, on their cars they were on the T-8 (behind the river), on the T-6M (behind the river, but based in TurkVo), and then the Coulomb cars, on the T-6MP there were two Coulomb ones, and the 4th combatant , on the T-6M (in Kopitnari, flying around the MVK), Vol. 01 (in the North, range and duration) ... it seems to be all.
                  Как сейчас обстановка по этому вопросу в ГЛИЦ ....не знаю wink
        2. Doliva63 5 June 2020 20: 23 New
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          Quote: Anton
          I confirm. I personally know pilots who responded very well to the Su-17 / Su-22 and Kayre. I know one of its designers. This is a front-line bomber, not a fighter, and he performed his tasks perfectly. These tasks are not out of date even now, and weapons could easily be updated, including high precision. They wrote off planes early because of Yeltsin.

          Front-line bomber? In our regiment on the Su-17, the “architecture” was as follows: 1 AE - carriers, 2 AE - fighters and reconnaissance, 3 AE - missile-bomb suspension on the ground. And where is the "front-line bomber"?
          1. Antokha 5 June 2020 20: 39 New
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            Пошёл посмотрел статью о Су-22М3 на сайте "Уголок неба". Там речь идёт исключительно о применении оружия воздух-земля, о трудностях при испытаниях этих режимов. Понятно, что и ракеты воздух-воздух были, но работа отрабатывалась именно по земле. Рассказывается про боевое применение в Афгане, естественно было тоже по земле. Это делает самолёт фронтовым бомбардировщиком. Главный истребитель в то время был, наверное, МиГ-23...
            1. Doliva63 5 June 2020 21: 09 New
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              Quote: Anton
              Пошёл посмотрел статью о Су-22М3 на сайте "Уголок неба". Там речь идёт исключительно о применении оружия воздух-земля, о трудностях при испытаниях этих режимов. Понятно, что и ракеты воздух-воздух были, но работа отрабатывалась именно по земле. Рассказывается про боевое применение в Афгане, естественно было тоже по земле. Это делает самолёт фронтовым бомбардировщиком. Главный истребитель в то время был, наверное, МиГ-23...

              Статья на сайте - это хорошо, но в жизни было иначе. А про Афган - смешно говорить, там просто не было иной работы, как по земле. На деле было так: все АЭ полка отрабатывали все виды применения - "применение", перехват, воздушный бой, работа по земле, разведка. Только на ночь самолёты подвешивались по специализации АЭ. Как видите, только 25% подготовки приходилось на работу по земле. А на разведку летали даже "за бугор" - странное занятие для фронтового бомбардировщика, не находите? Су-17 - истребитель-бомбардировщик, этим всё сказано, так его и планировали применять. А по весне было такое "упражнение" - полк полным составом наносит удар спец.боеприпасами по СЕТВД, а при возвращении садится на лёд не помню какого моря, т.к. считалось, что дома садиться уже некуда будет. Многоплановый самолёт был laughing drinks
            2. ancient 6 June 2020 10: 43 New
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              Quote: Anton
              There we are talking exclusively about the use of air-ground weapons,

              In the "theory" you can use the R-60 and R-73, but in practice ... all the air battles with American and Israeli fighters ended ... not in favor of the Su-22 request
              We were told ... a fighter bomber is still not specifically a bomber .. but it’s not specifically a fighter wink
              But for a full-fledged FBA, he lacks a radar wink
      4. orionvitt 5 June 2020 13: 51 New
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        Quote: bayard
        Great for assault strikes

        Just in this they did not succeed. If the car is simple and reliable, it still does not say that it is the best. All these attempts to adapt the fighter to attack from low altitudes, and bombing with cabriolet (a very difficult maneuver), were not from a good life. Used what is. That is why they replaced the SU-24 and SU-25.
        1. bayard 5 June 2020 13: 58 New
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          Quote: orionvitt
          Just in this they did not succeed.

          Well, who will argue with this? For this, the Su-25 and MiG-27 were developed. He was the best at the beginning of his long life ... or rather one of the best, here the rating is difficult to reduce.
          But before they appeared, they were used. And not bad at all.
          1. VO3A 5 June 2020 20: 16 New
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            Su-17m3 and Su-17M4 independently worked in parallel with Su-24, Su-25 and MIG-27 ... Nobody changed anyone .. Su-17 and Su-25 worked in simple weather conditions, they are not all-weather ... Su- 17 a reliable, simple aircraft, and the M4 with a digital system that was superior to the Su-25 complex ... The flight and technical personnel praised this aircraft ... The decommissioning and actually destruction of the Su-17M4 was a mistake ...
        2. ancient 6 June 2020 11: 22 New
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          Quote: orionvitt
          All these attempts to adapt the fighter to attack from low altitudes, and bombing with cabriolet (a very difficult maneuver), were not from a good life.

          Немного не верно...все сложные виды боевого применения АСП на самолётах ИБА и ФБА обусловлены появлением у вероятного противника всё более современных средств ПВО и МЗА, поэтому подход на ПМВ мотивировался тем, что у противника проблема с обнаружением самолёта, а кабрирование (быстрое угловое перемещение самолёта и дальности сброса не заходя в зону применения МЗА) .
          На практике это выглядело так -подход к цели на высоте 30-40 м. На дальностях до цели (где уже "привязана" ПМ) от 1 км до 2 км ( в зависимости от V ист полёта) начинаешь увеличивать угол тангажа ( выполняешь практически полупетлю), зажимаешь БК и...ждёшь " отцеп"("отстрел") wink ( при угле от 70 до 90 градусов).
          The results were good .
      5. ancient 5 June 2020 14: 12 New
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        Quote: bayard
        Perfect for assault strikes, low altitude attacks and bombing with cabriolet. The pilots loved them very much and reluctantly retrained on the Su-24

        good drinks soldier
        On the "54" -ke did a very "smart thing" laughing -, the cone of the central air intake was made stationary, optimizing it for flight at transonic speeds. wink
        As a result, the maximum Mach number at high altitude fell from 2,1 to 1,75, but a gain in mass was obtained due to the removal of the control system, and a significant free internal volume appeared.
        And due to this, it was possible to integrate most of the REO into the aiming and navigation complex PrNK-54, based on the digital computer TsVM 20-22 “Orbit 20-22”,

        It includes new near and far navigation systems:
        - A-312 "Radical NP" and A-720 "Skip-2",
        - ARK-22 radio compass,
        - marker receiver MRP-66,
        - radio altimeter RV-21 "Impulse" (A-035),
        - Doppler speed and demolition meter DISS-7,
        - SHS air signal system,
        - inertial course vertical IKV-8,
        and other equipment. wink
        And in the cone VZ installed a modified LDK "Maple-54".
        Under the fuselage of the aircraft, it was possible to suspend a BA-58 container with Blizzard equipment, which provided the launch of X-27PS, X-58U or E. anti-radar missiles.
        In the later series, an IT-23M indicator appeared in the cockpit, which allowed the use of the X-29T missile with the Tubus-2 homing television head.
        1. bayard 5 June 2020 15: 16 New
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          hi drinks soldier
          In Azerbaijan, when the Kurdamir regiment was re-equipped on the Su-24, there were so many passions - at least 7 pilots (to whom the service was suitable) wrote reports. And with what idiomatic expressions the aircraft mechanics expressed their "delight" ... and about the Su-17, always with love.
          Deserved it.
          At the same time, we had our own RTV unit at the regiment, so we communicated ...
        2. VO3A 5 June 2020 20: 23 New
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          It is not important. On the Su-17M4 there was a digital sight, the parameters of which did not deteriorate over time and did not require constant adjustment, as on the M3. M4 very accurately bombed and shot ...
    2. akarfoxhound 5 June 2020 10: 07 New
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      Leader, you seem to be a very "big" specialist in military aviation laughing
    3. Ratmir_Ryazan 5 June 2020 11: 06 New
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      They wrote that the aircraft will be used for training aircraft pilots and radar calculations.

      The Poles need the Su-22 as a training aircraft, and the combat ones they need are multi-purpose F-16s and, in the future, F-35s.
      1. white.eagle 5 June 2020 11: 56 New
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        Su-22 is the only aircraft in Poland that uses Polish thermobaric bombs LBPP-100
  3. Nikolay R-PM 5 June 2020 05: 35 New
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    Chelyabinsk 712 Arz does not have these exclusive rights or what? in general, he repaired the Al-21f-3 in any version (and a whole bunch of units), it will repair it and will repair it while the Su-24m and Su-17m types are in operation.
    1. Vasyan1971 5 June 2020 10: 17 New
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      Quote: Nikolai R-PM
      Chelyabinsk 712 Arz does not have these exclusive rights or what?

      Here, most likely, we are talking about other Polish plants over which it is Wojskowe Zakłady Lotnicze nr 2 SA that has the advantage. Competitors to cut off. I doubt that the proud clearing will turn to Chelyabinsk ...
      1. Invoce 5 June 2020 11: 09 New
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        Quote: Vasyan1971
        Quote: Nikolai R-PM
        Chelyabinsk 712 Arz does not have these exclusive rights or what?

        Here, most likely, we are talking about other Polish plants over which it is Wojskowe Zakłady Lotnicze nr 2 SA that has the advantage. Competitors to cut off. I doubt that the proud clearing will turn to Chelyabinsk ...

        Honestly, I generally doubt the quality of AL-21F3 repair at other people's plants ... Everything can be repaired! That's just the cost of repair will not differ much from the cost of the engine, if you repair the product by purchasing special stands and mechs ... Or the quality will be the same as after the "Ukrainian" repair of the MiG-21
        1. Vasyan1971 5 June 2020 11: 33 New
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          Quote: Invoce
          Everything can be repaired! That's just the cost of repair will not differ much from the cost of the engine, if you repair a product by purchasing special stands and fur ...

          But who knows this "Military Mortgage"? Maybe they still have all this? No wonder they probably shout about their exclusivity. In modern times, a sluggish zombie apocalypse for denyuzhku teeth fight.
  4. Revolver 5 June 2020 05: 36 New
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    "Poland is a greedy hyena of Europe" Winston Churchill
    For non-English speakers: "Poland is the greedy hyena of Europe" © Winston Churchill
  5. rotmistr60 5 June 2020 06: 08 New
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    These vehicles have a very low combat value ...
    But we will repair the engines and
    Polish Air Force plans to operate until the resource is exhausted, which was extended in 2014
    So if you do not have, in your words, military value, then why spend money on repairs? It’s somehow not Polish to fly Soviet planes and at the same time not forgetting to swear on the USSR and Russia. Overseas "bros" do not want to give their own, and probably the toad presses to buy.
    1. strelokmira 5 June 2020 08: 08 New
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      So if you do not have, in your words, military value, then why spend money on repairs?

      So everything seems to be written in the article
      however, they are heavily used, for example, in the training of JTAC operators [leading combat aircraft from a forward position] or in the calculations of radar stations

      Have not a bad educational value
      1. akarfoxhound 5 June 2020 10: 12 New
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        What the journalist wrote about the educational value of combat Drying is stupid!
      2. Cyril G ... 5 June 2020 11: 03 New
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        This is a miserable whining ........ For the sake of this, no one will spend millions on their maintenance, repair, training of flight and technical personnel ...

        The casket is simply too expensive to maintain the existing F-16s and prepare the flight crew for them. Last year, the technical readiness of the existing Polish Air Force F-16s was in the region of 30-35%.
  6. Reserve buildbat 5 June 2020 06: 10 New
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    Это паны сами себе эксклюзивные права присвоили? Так пусть "Сухой" объявит запрет на использование своих самолетов, в которых копались чужие кривые руки. Это цивилизованная практика. Бесполезно, но культурно.
  7. aszzz888 5 June 2020 06: 23 New
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    Polish fighters Su-22
    Well, and how does it fly on the planes of the aggressor))? Doesn’t shiver, doesn’t feel sick? bully
  8. Zaurbek 5 June 2020 07: 03 New
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    With the AL-31 it would be generally good to fly. They were written off early in the Russian Federation.
    1. Eug
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      Был на границе 80-90х вариант серьезной модернизации с новым крылом без изменяемой стреловидности. Но ВВС тогда отказывались от однодвигательных самолей....
      1. Zaurbek 5 June 2020 08: 15 New
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        With a modern avionics and engine, the fighter would have turned out to be full-fledged. Yubtekatel under the radar is small only.
        1. Eug
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          Минимальную РЛС - модификацию Копья с МиГ-21-93 - размещали, более продвинутые можно подвесить в контейнере. Проблема в том, что от однодвигательных самолетов отказывались в принципе, даже количество двухдвигательных СЧИТАЛОСЬ избыточным.. мир, дружба, жвачка...
      2. Doliva63 5 June 2020 20: 28 New
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        Quote: Eug
        Был на границе 80-90х вариант серьезной модернизации с новым крылом без изменяемой стреловидности. Но ВВС тогда отказывались от однодвигательных самолей....

        It is not the Air Force that they were abandoned.
        1. Eug
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          Please specify, I know the version of what exactly is the command of the Air Force (Deinekin). It was necessary to reduce according to the signed agreements and to reduce the command of the Air Force “let down” single-engine aircraft in the first place as those that are inappropriate to upgrade to multi-purpose.
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            Quote: Eug
            Please specify, I know the version of what exactly is the command of the Air Force (Deinekin). It was necessary to reduce according to the signed agreements and to reduce the command of the Air Force “let down” single-engine aircraft in the first place as those that are inappropriate to upgrade to multi-purpose.

            I meant the Air Force itself - pilots and IAS, they liked the car, they did not want to abandon it. And isn't the Su-17 a multipurpose aircraft? Interception, aerial combat, work on the ground with RSami, URami, guns, bombs, reconnaissance - where are there so many targets? laughing А командование ВВС, чтобы сохранить лампасы, могло тогда что угодно списать. Собственно, как Союз "списали", списать основной парк ИБА - плёвое дело.
    2. bayard 5 June 2020 08: 53 New
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      Yes, and with the fact that there are speeds for his eyes - he always flew faster than the MiG-21. To launch it into space?
      Quote: Zaurbek
      They were written off early in the Russian Federation.

      They began to write off even under the Union, when the regiments were transferred to the Su-24. The pilots, by the way, were reluctantly retraining for the Su-24, many even (of those who had little to do before service) wrote reports ... and the Su-24 aircraft simply sweared.
      And the Su-17s were loved.
      1. Zaurbek 5 June 2020 09: 44 New
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        The load will increase, fuel supply, range, acceleration ...
        1. bayard 5 June 2020 10: 43 New
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          It’s too late for us, but they don’t need anything.
          We have no one thought of the Su-24 move on the AL-31F change, they could also decide:
          Quote: Zaurbek
          The load will increase, fuel supply, range, acceleration ...

          But they didn’t decide.
          Enough of what is. After all, there is 11200 kg of power on the afterburner, where is it more to him?
  9. Herman 4223 5 June 2020 07: 06 New
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    Looks like the machine is not so bad for their work since they are so cherished.
    1. bayard 5 June 2020 08: 54 New
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      Wonderful car in its class.
  10. bober1982 5 June 2020 07: 26 New
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    These machines have great combat value, the Poles must somehow justify the costly commissioning of the Su-22, and they are talking about some kind of guidance operators and the low value of the aircraft.
    They need to humble pride.
    1. datura23 5 June 2020 08: 20 New
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      to humble the pride of the Pole? yes it’s easier to loop.
  11. Ros 56 5 June 2020 07: 44 New
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    And as with spare parts, you can’t even put a stolen right for repair instead of a piece of iron on the engine.
    1. Eug
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      Как по мне, это распределение пирога внутри НАТО. Подозреваю, что реальный ремонт или большую его часть будут делать на луцком Моторе. Но поляки в рамках НАТО могут вполне официально купить и лицензию, и современные тенологии ремонта ( если они изменились по сравнению с той, документация на которую у них есть) и соответственно зап.части и рем.комплекты - после того, как они у себя разобрались, кто будет ремонтировать.
  12. svp67 5 June 2020 08: 17 New
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    For our part, we note that questions are raised by statements about the exclusive rights of the Polish company WZL No. 2 to the AL-21F3 engine. This power plant was developed in the Soviet OKB-165 on the basis of AL-21F, differing from it in increased traction and improved characteristics.
    And what, someone bothered with us to secure all rights officially? More than sure not. So they use it. And I won’t be surprised that it’s not without our help ... For example, one of ours wanted to circumvent the sanctions in such a way as to service this type of aircraft and its propulsion system in the countries that still operate it, and so they opened a “fake” or joint enterprises, with the transfer of rights and documentation ...
    1. Piramidon 5 June 2020 09: 21 New
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      Quote: svp67
      And what, someone bothered with us to secure all rights officially? More than sure not. So they use it. And I won’t be surprised that it’s not without our help ... For example, one of ours wanted to circumvent the sanctions in such a way as to service this type of aircraft and its propulsion system in the countries that still operate it, and so they opened a “fake” or joint enterprises, with the transfer of rights and documentation ...

      Do not forget that Poland received these rights from the USSR when it was considered an ally of the Warsaw Pact, long before any sanctions
      1. svp67 5 June 2020 09: 52 New
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        Quote: Piramidon
        Do not forget that Poland received these rights from the USSR when it was considered an ally of the Warsaw Pact, long before any sanctions

        I like their position ... here it’s not profitable for us, but it means “the rest of the criminal totalitarian past”, which must either be prohibited or simply not carried out, but as soon as it’s profitable, like nothing, you can tolerate it, the main thing is that money was dripping ...
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  14. APASUS 5 June 2020 09: 00 New
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    Wojskowe Zakłady Lotnicze nr 2 SA, specializing in the repair of aircraft, as, according to the customer, she is the sole owner of the technical documentation for these engines, which gives this company exclusive rights to work with AL-21F3.

    I always believed that it was the manufacturer’s license that gives the right to repair aircraft, and the Poles have one of those documentation
  15. Dysindich 5 June 2020 09: 09 New
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    These vehicles have a very low combat value ...
    But we will repair the engines and
    Polish Air Force plans to operate until the resource is exhausted, which was extended in 2014
    So if you do not have, in your words, military value, then why spend money on repairs? It’s somehow not Polish to fly Soviet planes and at the same time not forgetting to swear on the USSR and Russia. Overseas "bros" do not want to give their own, and probably the toad presses to buy.

    They, like, write what they are going to use for training operators of guiding attack aircraft and radar calculations ... However, in the world, only two countries are able to build attack aircraft, and the American A-10 is very outdated. (and there is simply no selling quantity of these). And for work on bearded men (for example) the capabilities of the Su-22 are enough for the eyes.
  16. pavelty 5 June 2020 10: 36 New
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    As if the resource of the glider is dead ...
    1. Cyril G ... 5 June 2020 11: 05 New
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      Iranian forty ++ year old Tigers, Phantoms and Tomkets fly the same
    2. knn54 5 June 2020 11: 52 New
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      In 2014, the aircraft lifespan was extended by 10 years.
  17. iouris 5 June 2020 13: 13 New
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    The next step is exclusive rights to the vodka alcohol-containing drink.
  18. Nikolay R-PM 5 June 2020 17: 18 New
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    Quote: Vasyan1971
    Quote: Nikolai R-PM
    Chelyabinsk 712 Arz does not have these exclusive rights or what?

    Here, most likely, we are talking about other Polish plants over which it is Wojskowe Zakłady Lotnicze nr 2 SA that has the advantage. Competitors to cut off. I doubt that the proud clearing will turn to Chelyabinsk ...

    most likely it is
  19. opus 5 June 2020 19: 05 New
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    For our part, we note that the questions raise Polish exclusive rights statements WZL No. 2 for the AL-21F3 engine.

    belay
    1. again distorted
    declared exclusive repair rights AL-21F3

    против
    Quote: author
    For our part, we note that the questions raise Polish exclusive rights statements WZL No. 2 for the AL-21F3 engine.

    there is a difference?
    fool
    Wojskowe Zakłady Lotnicze nr 2 SA is the sole owner (on an exclusive basis) of technical documentation and has the exclusive right to overhaul the engineth AŁ-21F3 in accordance with the “Technical conditions for the overhaul of AŁ-21F3 engines of series III and higher with the serial number index 540”. .
    In addition, Wojskowe Zakłady Lotnicze nr 2 SA has the technical capabilities to ensure the implementation of the above order and there is no alternative solution to complete the contract.


    2.Wojskowe Zakłady Lotnicze Nr 2 SA (Military Aviation Plant No. 2) is the main partner supporting and supporting the operation of aircraft for the Armed Forces of the Republic of Poland, including Su-22, MiG-29 and C-130 Hercules.
    Modernization and equipping of aircraft with modern systems is becoming an important area of ​​activity of WZL No. 2 SA. The company upgraded the MiG-29, Su-22, TS-11, Mi-17, Mi-8 and Mi-2 aircraft, including the following systems: GPS, TACAN, VOR / ILS, anti-collision lamps, UHF / VHF radios , transponders, KT / IFF and others. In 2007, the Su-22 aircraft for the Angolan Air Force was completely modernized, including the development and integration of a new mission computer, EGI laser platform, HUD head-sight, multifunction display. In 2011–2014, the company upgraded 16 MiG-29 aircraft of the Polish Air Force. It included the integration of modern avionics systems and the creation of an open architecture based on the new mission computer and data bus MIL BUS 1553 B.

    In November 2011, the reconstruction of the prototype Mi-8 helicopter was completed, combined with the expansion of maintenance and modernization. The company received permission to conduct serial repairs of this type of aircraft.

    Verification repair of the Su-22M4K and Su-22UM3K aircraft has been carried out since 2015 with the adaptation of instruments in the cabin to Anglo-Saxon units along with the installation of a new radio station.

    Inspection repairs extend the life of the aircraft for another 10 years
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    завод сертифицирован с 2000 года

    3. In 1982 year the company received the status of a state enterprise and received the name: Wojskowe Zakłady Lotnicze No. 2, and six years later expanded its scope of activity through the repair of the Su-22, and in 1996 - the MiG-29, which significantly increased the potential of the plant. In 1996, the factory in Bydgoszcz won a tender for the repair of this type of aircraft and was practically the only one in the country that was able to successfully modernize military aircraft. On December 20, 1997, the first repaired MiG-29 left Bydgoszcz, and by May 1999, four more had been modernized.

    What else is needed?
  20. TermNachTer 5 June 2020 19: 14 New
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    Well, they were going to buy F - 35, why would they need "drying"?)))
  21. Doliva63 5 June 2020 20: 13 New
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    In the photo - S-54U, no? I forgot how they look.
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    Why did the Su-17 suddenly become a "fighter"? This is a strike aircraft, it was delivered as a "fighter-bomber." Something has changed?