Middle Eastern Rake Dancing

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The majority of Russians believed that Damascus was Moscow’s best friend, Assad Jr. would owe us the grave of life for keeping him on the throne.

The Russian military systematically and regularly made sacrifices on the altar of the Syrian state, as a result of a slurred piece around the capital and the Russian base, they nevertheless created a country free of terrorists again, they saved the Assad regime at the very last moment and ...



And here she is, thanks.


Photo by: kremlin.ru

Yes, not from Assad himself. Yes, "only" from the assistant speaker of the Syrian parliament. But the fact: Mr. Khaled al-Abudi, who occupies such a dusty position, allowed himself to openly throw out a little swearing and promises to declare Russia an occupant in our direction.

Middle Eastern Rake Dancing

Yes, not in an official statement, not from the parliamentary rostrum, but in his personal Facebook. Nevertheless, rudeness even on a page in the FB is rudeness.

“Putin cannot dictate anything to Assad. Why? Because Putin is in desperate need of Assad ... Assad may wish to pull the carpet from under Putin’s feet in the Kremlin itself ...
“What if we declare to the UN that we regard the Russian presence in Syria as occupation? Dear ones, remember that the USSR fell after the defeat in Afghanistan. If Assad gets angry with Putin, he will raise the slogan of fighting the Russian invaders and cover the mountains of Latakia with tens of thousands of soldiers. ”

Here, of course, a moot point. What or who prevented Assad from “covering the mountains of Latakia” with fighters when he was actually clamped in Damascus? And where were these "fighters" when the leader so needed their help?

However, this is not about that at all. It is clear that without Russian help, Mr. Assad would have shared the fate of Muammar Gaddafi at best for several months. At worst, Saddam Hussein.


The question is only when and how. The fact that Mr. Assad’s time has passed was clear to everyone. And Russian intervention was very surprising for many who began to broadcast “Assad must go!” Do you remember? And I remember. And the whole world remembers.

In general, the beginning of a demonstration of gratitude from the Syrian authorities has been laid. I am sure that the first attack will be followed by others. There is some certainty about this.

Which one? A complete lack of reaction to this.

Television “did not notice” such an outstanding demarche, the central media also decided to remain silent, Maria Zakharova, who kicked the “offenders of Russia” much smaller and for more insignificant reasons ... also kept silent!

But meanwhile, what Mr. Al-Abudi wrote in his place cannot be called a trifle. This is as it is rudeness, and impudent and especially undisguised by anything.

Meanwhile, in Syria, Khaled al-Abudi is considered a very experienced politician. With experience, so to speak. Therefore, those who were supposed to calm him down in Syria itself, shrug, say, he has the right to his point of view.

Yes, the East is a very delicate matter politically. And there it is customary to weave lace of words, masking insults as compliments, and vice versa. But in our case, lace is not observed at all.

So a provocation?

Yes, it is quite possible. And that's why.

Al-Abudi is a pro-Iranian politician. And bold. And he has long been saying out loud that Damascus should be closer friends not with Moscow, but with Tehran. I must say that in this regard I completely agree with him. And personally, I would prefer that men from the IRGC, and not from the Russian army, die in Middle Eastern disassemblies.

But even in this situation, rudeness and provocation are not the best way to express your aspirations.

Moreover, al-Abudi colleagues called for the removal of the words and apologize. The deputy refused. AND? And nothing! No further action was taken.

This is amazing. Because where is Syria, and where is freedom of speech? Moreover, the word was thrown at the closest ally, if that.

Therefore, immediately at people who understand the essence of the situation, the question arises: who, excuse me, allowed al-Abudi to behave so ... defiantly? What forces are behind such bold behavior? After all, one thing is one's own political position, and another thing is an insult to an ally.

Assad is silent, silent in Moscow. Is everyone happy with everything?

In general, of course, flexibility, frankness and (most important) foresight are not about politics in the Middle East.

Here it is worth recalling many, many who took everything necessary with two hands from the huge treasury of the Soviet Union: weapontechnique. Professionals, money, money and money again. And where are the results?

Here it is worth remembering not even Assad Sr., Hafez Assad, but his neighbor. Anwar Sadat, Egyptian ruler.


Who spun dashing tango with the Soviet Union, squeezed out everything that is possible from these political dances (Tanks, airplanes, advisers, Aswan waterworks and so on), drove the country into billions of dollars of debt to the USSR, and then ... And then Egypt just turned over to be friends with the United States.

Naturally, a clever man Hafez Asad realized that after such a click on the nose of the USSR, he would choose another partner in the Middle East. And he very skillfully played the Syrian card.


Assad Sr. received almost $ 1974 billion worth of weapons alone at the peak of friendship from 1978 to 4!

At the same time, Assad Sr. conducted a rather independent policy, regularly driving the USSR into various stories. Often not quite beautiful and pleasant.

It is worth recalling the war in 1982, which Syria actually unleashed in southern Lebanon, because it is a convenient bridgehead for the war with Israel. They untied it, but it’s worth remembering that Assad managed to quarrel with Arafat, a great friend of Moscow and the head of the oppressed Palestinians.

It came to the point that the poor oppressed Palestinians took the Soviet embassy in Lebanon hostage and demanded that Moscow calm down Assad.

And Assad, realizing that he could not do anything with the Israeli army, asked me to send him ... correctly, the Soviet military contingent. And our military went to Lebanon.

History is repeating itself, in that war our losses amounted to 13 people killed and about 200 wounded. And Assad lost the war with a bang. Which did not stop him from continuing to be a "friend of the USSR."

By and large, that “friend of the USSR”, that “friend of Russia” in the Middle East - it’s just who wants to live at someone else’s expense in full. And without giving anything in return. Moreover, they all, “friends” around the world, systematically and regularly write off debts and forgive loans.

It is very beneficial to be non-Russian and to be indebted to the Russians. Don’t have to give.

Together with Sadat, one can recall the former "friends" of Hussein and Gaddafi, who also knew how to "be friends." Hussein’s army officers, whom we have learned at our own expense in our academies and schools, today have to be driven through the Syrian sands. It is no secret that the core of this very “banned in the Russian Federation” group consists of just our former allies.

In general, well, nothing special. All the same friendship games, all the same Arab rakes. Only in the last century the Soviet Union got a forehead, now it is Russia’s turn. That the result will be about the same - don’t go to a fortuneteller, nothing has changed in the Middle East. Why should there suddenly be a different result?

Constancy, as they say, is a sign of mastery.


It is not very pleasant to realize that the next sonorous blow of a cut on the forehead will be heard soon. But he will be heard, the Arabs have remained Arabs, with their, frankly, peculiar concepts of honor, dignity and duty in the political sense of the word.

As our press has repeatedly stated, Russia helps Syria at the request of the latter. Officially and at the call, so to speak. But in addition to distributing rations to the population and the war against Assad’s opponents, in fact, we just keep him on the throne. On bayonets.

However, not only we are doing this. The same British and Americans do not do that. They can, you know, allow.

Assad Jr. perfectly solved his problems at our expense. And the army of enemies was thrown back and battered (three times already officially destroyed), shouts under the windows "Assad must go!" also calmed down yet ...

And naturally, Bashar Assad will continue to be “friends”, receiving from us airplanes, S-300 and S-400, tanks and so on. Money for the "restoration of the economy destroyed by the war", specialists ...

That's just the world today is slightly different from what was under his father. And most likely you will have to pay the bills. There were also top-secret treaties, according to which Russia defends Assad in every sense and on all platforms, and Assad ...

And Assad, I’m sure, as soon as it comes to fulfilling obligations, he will simply run to resell. Americans, Iranians, Chinese ... The main thing is who will be able to further protect and feed him. Depending on how the foreign policy situation develops.

Apparently, not only in my head such thoughts, apparently, the corresponding reports and reports are on the tables. There ... in the Foreign Ministry and not only.

That is what I can very easily explain why such silence.

Provocation. It was definitely a provocation. In the style of our Zhirinovsky. It is possible that the answer to the question asked above, “Who allowed?” simple to impossible: Bashar al-Assad.

Yes, it’s very convenient, you know, to take and provoke such a provocation by the lips of others. Let the pro-Iranian deputy say what he seems to be thinking. But Assad actually thinks.

They will understand the cunning eastern background in Moscow - well. They don’t understand - nothing too. In this case, Moscow will simply demand an apology at the level of Zakharova.

And then Assad may well, without apologizing, play the game of the humiliated and offended and immediately rush to cry into the arms of Iran. And there they will ...


The courts seem to have understood everything correctly in Moscow, therefore it is silent. They think what to do next with Assad. Apparently, his terms of payment for political and military loans are suitable. And this is just the beginning of a new Middle Eastern poker game.

Although the whole story of “friendship” between the USSR and the Arab countries can be described as the story of how our country was betrayed openly for its own interests. Not always beautiful, not always honest and not always attractive.

But this is the East ... The matter is not so subtle as ... the east.
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  1. +7
    2 June 2020 10: 07
    The majority of Russians believed that Damascus was Moscow’s best friend, Assad Jr. would owe us the grave of life for keeping him on the throne.

    Most of all this is a drum ... people, civilians are PITCH.
    Those who taught history in the USSR, and so it was clear that there was nobody and .... only interests and nothing more. Strategic, economic, something like that in general.
    1. 0
      2 June 2020 10: 25
      Absolutely right. Most generally do not care what happens in Syria. The leadership is engaged in this, and it knows what it is doing. Another thing, the liber ... you, like Syria, lead everyone and everyone out of Syria, throw Syria, Assad to the answer. But here everything is clear, the mongrel barks, greeting the owner.
      East is a delicate matter. In the east, there are no permanent friends, there are allies whose interests may coincide, or may one day turn in the other direction. The main thing in time is to notice, or it may turn out like in Egypt at one time after Nasser ... Therefore, there is nothing surprising in the fact that today you are east with you, and tomorrow you will turn to the other side.
      1. -2
        2 June 2020 10: 34
        Quote: The Truth
        East is a delicate matter.

        This is a delicate matter, but circumstances can be \ are very difficult.
        In principle, the "kid" had obligations, he fulfilled them in full! And this is already a plus in our time!
        1. +7
          2 June 2020 11: 38
          the point is there in the PIPE and not in "asad". and they understand it. so that everything is logical.
          1. +1
            3 June 2020 19: 20
            That's all. And so many letters and nerves.
        2. AUL
          +9
          2 June 2020 14: 12
          Quote: rocket757
          In principle, the "kid" had obligations, he fulfilled them in full! And this is already a plus in our time!

          Why do we have any obligations to the Arabs? When did we owe them so much? And why then they have no obligations to us? They treat us like a call girl. If you needed it - they called, she arrived, got tired - went out, called another, amerovskaya. The only difference is that the girl is paid, and we ourselves are also paying extra with weapons and the lives of our guys! Does the history of communication with our "Arab friends" of our leaders teach nothing?
          1. -3
            2 June 2020 14: 36
            They expressed their judgment ... and prove?
            Condition, about the USSR is not necessary, there is no such country anymore. The "kid" is no longer from another country.
            1. AUL
              +5
              2 June 2020 14: 38
              Quote: rocket757
              They expressed their judgment ... and prove?

              And what, in fact, do you need to prove?
              ... but to refute?
              1. 0
                2 June 2020 14: 49
                In September 2015, the Federation Council, in response to a request from Syrian President Bashar Assad, agreed to use the Russian Armed Forces to fight terrorism in Syria [3]. On September 30, 2015, the Russian Air Force aviation group in Syria launched strikes against anti-government forces
                On August 26, 2015, an Agreement was signed between Russia and Syria on the deployment of an aviation group of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on Syrian territory, according to which

                Everything is legal. No questions.
                1. AUL
                  +7
                  2 June 2020 15: 04
                  Quote: rocket757
                  Everything is legal. No questions.

                  But is it really about how legal this is? It seems that I wrote about something completely different. No need to replace the subject of the dispute, it will not fail!
                  I wrote that we run to help anyone who whistles to us. That these "friends" are throwing us with enviable constancy. That we are driving there a lot of money, weapons, ruining the lives and health of our children, and in the end we do not get anything in return, we only have time to "restructure" the debts. And the fact that it started back in the USSR should teach our current leaders. But, you see, not feed into the horse ... Do we really need to go through another Egypt, Afghanistan, Vietnam, half-freaks to understand that they will be thrown again?
                  1. -3
                    2 June 2020 17: 58
                    Where are we running, who to help, a list of p.zh.s.st. and where are we
                    threw it. The conversation is not about the USSR, about now.
                    Transpose the error matrix of one state to another ... this still needs to be proved.
                  2. -5
                    8 June 2020 18: 16
                    Quote from AUL
                    throw again?

                    Quote: rocket757
                    Where are we running, who to help, a list of p.zh.s.st. and where they threw us

                    Perhaps I will join the last speaker. And, yes - a list of "throws" - with links, intelligible ... And so far it looks like blah-blah-blah.

                    Kindly (c) Yes
          2. +2
            3 June 2020 19: 23
            They treat us like a call girl.

            Yes, it is not the Arabs who treat us that way, but the "kid" who for some reason in Syria said - did, but in Russia - said and lied.
            1. +1
              3 June 2020 22: 15
              Isn't it clear? There they have interes, here they have a "fiefdom".
        3. +1
          3 June 2020 21: 57
          Quote: rocket757
          This is a delicate matter, but circumstances can be \ are very difficult.

          Here again we have to repeat ... Each of our "best friends" should receive a beautiful collar as a gift, which, if necessary, would begin to shrink around the neck, thereby stimulating the brain in the head. Well, and so periodically blurt out under a tie to refresh your memory.
          1. 0
            3 June 2020 22: 17
            All this is tiring ... there are only interests. It is necessary to be able to protect them and EVERYTHING.
      2. +1
        2 June 2020 12: 27
        In the east, there are no permanent friends, there are allies whose interests may coincide, or may one day turn in the other direction.

        Oriental rug is very flexible and comfortable, soft, made of natural fabrics .. how can you breath wrapped into it through it?
        And the Middle Eastern is different from the Persian. but there are also many sands not covered with carpets. "The heat of the desert pinches my cheeks ..." Besides carpets, people also value water. Who has it?
    2. 0
      2 June 2020 14: 45
      1. Classics of politics of oriental despots - only the opinion of the master is important.
      2. Leave behind the gate without payment.
      3. Show yourself offended so as not to pay.
  2. -7
    2 June 2020 10: 08
    Custom article from sponsors from Israel ... or alternative reality ????
    1. +7
      2 June 2020 10: 20
      Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
      Custom article from sponsors from Israel ... or alternative reality ????

      What is the alternative reality? Syria declares that Russia does not owe anything.
      1. +8
        2 June 2020 10: 32
        Belarus says the same thing. And those who declare that Russia owes them nothing to count.
      2. -7
        2 June 2020 10: 53
        She didn’t say anything to me ... And we are not so disinterested in Syria, we just need to think not as a “rake of friendship”, but as “barrels” with oil and gold bars. Friendship of peoples in Yeltsin-Putin's Russia is a dirty word !!! Yes, and Assad understands in whose "calloused hands" his life and the life of his relatives. And the deputy, the "hot Syrian guy", has already received a "black mark" and now loves Putin very much. Believe it or not, but I, like the author, although I have not seen it personally, but I am conjecturing that reports on educational work with Syrian deputies are on the tables not only of the Russian Foreign Ministry, but "you yourself know" which services ...
        1. +5
          2 June 2020 11: 19
          1) Absolutely did not say anything. They dismissed them in Syria - random people fall into power and write on Facebook everything that comes to their mind ... democracy, you know!
          2) Barrels of oil and 999 ingots - what of this is in Syria (besides the towers under the control of amers, which in the best times provided domestic consumption and a little export)?
          3) Now that the danger has passed, Iran is again a priority
          4) Did the deputy himself tell you about this or did Bashar call?
          5) Not sure
        2. +1
          3 June 2020 19: 25
          Vitaliy! and when did you manage to become an oligarch?
          1. 0
            3 June 2020 20: 56
            What makes you think that I'm an oligarch ???
            1. +1
              3 June 2020 22: 02
              I joked, possibly unsuccessfully, in your defense of Moscow’s actions in Syria, Vitaly.
    2. +9
      2 June 2020 10: 30
      "alternative reality" - no, this is life))), in which: "The service already provided is worth nothing" ...
    3. +2
      2 June 2020 14: 21
      No, this is the truth of life that many are trying to evade.
    4. +4
      2 June 2020 16: 01
      Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
      Custom article from sponsors from Israel ... or alternative reality

      And neither the first nor the second Russia, has been in Syria for the fifth year already ץ. And in different political circles, the discontent of the politicians is ripening and they criticized the president of the Syrian regime, Bashar al-Assad, calling him "weak", adding that he cannot rule a country devastated by corruption. There are various reports that Assad must be changed. This information has reached Syria and Iran.
      Khaled al-Abud, a member of parliament, the secretary of government in his Facebook account, not only did the author of the article cite, but much more rudely offended not only Russia but Putin personally.
      Now who is he
      He serves as secretary of government and is closely associated with security services.
      Abud defended the Iranian militia and the Islamic revolutionary guard in Syria, considering them and Hezbollah the most important role in protecting Assad.
      Abud praised Assad’s relationship with Iran at his first menacing post, saying the regime’s relations with Moscow are considered secondary to the alliance between Tehran and the Syrian president.
      And in conclusion.
      If it seems to you that jihad is the destruction of Israel and the Jews, you are mistaken and you are in the same line.
      The Muslims: the holy war prescribed by the Qur'an against Gentiles in order to spread Islam; gazavat.
      1. -1
        2 June 2020 18: 10
        No Gentiles, infidels - these are different things. Teach the materiel, that is, the Koran and the gracefully blessed to him in addition.
        1. +2
          2 June 2020 18: 26
          Quote: Old Tankman
          Not the Gentiles, but the infidels - these are two different things.

          JIHAD
          Of all, you have chosen the most important thing for you. Or maybe there is something that is something to think about '

          Male gender
          Muslims: Holy Quran prescribed by the Qur'an against Gentiles in order to spread Islam; gazavat.
          https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk03bafsfd6u_8ymH62F3CG4JHivyww%3A1591110735854&source=hp&ei=T2zWXsjvMY_srgSeyZuQCw&q=%D0%B4%D0%B6%D0%B8%D1%85%D0%B0%D0%B4&oq=%D7%9A%D7%A3%D7%A0%5D%D7%9B%D7%9A&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQARgAMggIABAKEAEQKjIGCAAQChABOgcIIxDqAhAnOgIIADoGCAAQChAeOgQIABABOgoIABANEAoQARAqOggIABANEAoQAVDtFlj0OmClUmgBcAB4AIABrAGIAdEHkgEDMC42mAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdperABCg&sclient=psy-ab
          Contact what would change.
          Quote: Old Tankman
          . Teach the materiel, that is, the Koran and the gracefully blessed to him in addition.

          This is what I will not teach when and will not.
        2. +1
          3 June 2020 19: 30
          And what does it change, Sergey? We are infidels for them, they are Gentiles for our believers.
  3. +4
    2 June 2020 10: 11
    Although the whole story of “friendship” between the USSR and the Arab countries can be described as the story of how our country was betrayed openly for its own interests. Not always beautiful, not always honest and not always attractive.

    It is naive to believe that among the Arabs, and indeed others will be loyal friends. But this trick is certainly over the edge ..
    1. +7
      2 June 2020 10: 33
      I have always asked the question what we have forgotten in Syria and there have always been several opponents who say "yes, you do not understand anything"! Then there were discussions about terrorists, the great plan and blah, blah, blah ...
  4. +10
    2 June 2020 10: 19
    The main thing is that the rake is not stolen.
    1. 0
      2 June 2020 12: 32
      yes - they should stay until the next sponsor
  5. +9
    2 June 2020 10: 28
    Can I link to the original message? Mr. Skomorokhov knows Arabic well (or what language is there in Syria) and follows the statements of all the deputies in Syria?
    1. +1
      2 June 2020 10: 37
      Quote: DemikSPb
      Can I link to the original message?

      But this is a correctly posed question!
      I, maybe, of those there .. no way, BUT, only official statements, from those who are INSTRUCTED TO GIVE THEM!
  6. +6
    2 June 2020 10: 29
    Once again, Lavrov will be upset and express dissatisfaction. Now the main thing is to hold a parade!
  7. +11
    2 June 2020 10: 30
    Well yes. They beat the fool in the church too. The biggest mistake is to count on friendship in international relations. International relations are a fight of the most disgusting gopniks. This fight continues endlessly and endlessly, and relations in it are exclusively gopnic. In principle, no "international law" exists, since the USSR no longer exists in the world.
    So what can you do? Nothing complicated. Among the gopniks, everything is simple. Assad threw the bait over his six - are the Russians still such suckers? Can they still be thrown with impunity? Of course, in order to preserve the courtyard "authority", it is necessary to act as it should - to beat Assad hard and painfully. Exactly. No announcements, big speeches, or puffy cheeks. Something real, for example, squeezing money out of him, and decently. Or we open the front, remove air support. Aleppo-Raqqa opened the track there? Remove our patrols from it, and let Assad's soldiers themselves, without support, recapture it.
    When you broke your "friend" gopnik's whole face, then and only then your "friendship" is stronger than ever! This whole story will end with a diplomatic victory for Russia if this deputy is accidentally hit by a car eleven times. And after that, Assad will deliver a speech glorifying Russian-Syrian friendship. In any other case, all our sacrifices there will be in vain.
    1. +3
      2 June 2020 11: 18
      simple and accurate.
      1. +2
        3 June 2020 19: 32
        Our oligarchs will not survive this.
    2. -1
      2 June 2020 12: 33
      International relations are a fight between the most foul gopniks.

      -POWER NEEDS AGAINST ALLIES
    3. +2
      2 June 2020 16: 21
      Victims in any case are in vain.
    4. -1
      2 June 2020 16: 21
      Victims in any case are in vain.
  8. -3
    2 June 2020 10: 31
    Assad and his entourage do not like the presence in the country of a powerful foreign military contingent. No matter which country.
    Moor has done his job ...
  9. -1
    2 June 2020 10: 33
    You cannot have normal relations with a country dominated by another religion
    1. +2
      2 June 2020 11: 17
      It is not religion that affects relations between countries, but the interests and views of the leadership in these countries. Ukraine is an Orthodox country, the Baltic states and Poland are Christians, but it is difficult to call their relations with Russia normal. Zhirinovsky also said a lot of things and says, much more provocative. Very similar to false news.
      1. +3
        2 June 2020 11: 40
        You do not understand a little, or rather, I expressed myself not quite correctly. Ukraine, the Baltic States, etc. Europe is not so much Christian as more or less modern in its views on life. Those. they - citizens - can be convinced of something, for example, that they are "anti-Russian", but at the same time it is necessary to present arguments that are more or less clear from one point of view or another.
        But in countries with relatively primitive, thoroughly religious views on the daily routine of life, everything is more complicated: Russians in a Muslim country will always, regardless of leadership views, be strangers, pretty (yet useful) or hated
        1. +3
          2 June 2020 14: 48
          You mean in the Eastern country - in Syria there are many faiths, parties, movements. They don’t like any Europeans (and Russians are Europeans)
          1. +2
            2 June 2020 19: 07
            Yes, that's what I wanted to say
    2. -2
      2 June 2020 14: 22
      In Georgia, Christianity, so what?
      1. 0
        2 June 2020 19: 10
        In Georgia, which was longer than the life expectancy of one generation in the USSR, religion has ceased to be a kind of "backbone" of society. It's about more traditional societies.
        1. 0
          2 June 2020 19: 55
          Georgia has been a part of the Republic of Ingushetia for hundreds of years, and came almost voluntarily, because it could only save itself, the Soviet government almost defeated religion, but as soon as they tried to restore religion, and in many places successfully, although there was certainly a correction in the place of the church in life , and traditionality changes with time and ruler.
  10. +6
    2 June 2020 10: 35
    Although the whole story of “friendship” between the USSR and the Arab countries can be described as the story of how our country was betrayed openly for its own interests. Not always beautiful, not always honest and not always attractive.

    Well, Russia (USSR) has always behaved very softly with its allies in "socialism". Why? Our mid cannot be cunning, calculating and greedy. It's a pity.
    PS Our foreign policy in the years 60-90 reminds me of the behavior of a provincial who came to the capital who seems to be strong and not stupid, but whom any thimble will leave penniless. This is sad.
    1. -2
      2 June 2020 11: 03
      The USSR supported them. The confrontation with the United States did not just happen.
      1. +6
        2 June 2020 12: 09
        Yeah, only as a result, all sorts of Egypt went over to the United States and we stayed with nothing.
        1. 0
          2 June 2020 12: 53
          Until the mid-80s, many countries focused on the USSR of their allies, we ourselves surrendered as a result
  11. +6
    2 June 2020 10: 54
    I think that not so long ago there were some graters between us and the Assad apparatus, on the basis of the fact that we demanded a kind of gesheft (it is possible that the ill-fated expansion of our bases in the territory of the SAR was probably originally something bigger), which was so unexpected for the Syrians.
    Hence all this toxic wave associated with Assad. They bucked, we raised the miasma in the media, there they raised the miasma against us. All this does not resemble a serious policy, it reminds me more of a dispute between two illiterate newcomers at the grocery market, with all the dirty coloring, so to speak.
    It’s not very clear to me why we even invest a penny in our foreign initiatives. We have business in our country to the throat, and we climb into Europe with our gas and a roof, as if it was smeared with honey. Now in the forehead, then bypassing, like Ivan Dulin, by golly ..
    Enough to train and build, stop making this dove of peace from yourself and at the same time clamp money to support the population.
    1. +1
      2 June 2020 12: 52
      Gas and oil is the whole secret of action in Syria
      1. +2
        2 June 2020 13: 43
        This is strange to me - we would have invested in LNG a long time ago, along the way there would not have been a question of regular handouts for transit, there would have been a gorgeous bonus for our shipbuilding industry, we would have been completely violet whining the plugs on the way to Europe and so on. Instead, we put these dumb pipes, constantly picking someone with this gas horn paid-not paid. It seems to me that this is not due to the economy, but to some cave dullness of our foreign policy, which still wants to play some role in the BV, at least some, well, at least somewhere, despite the fact that besides this very high-profile role from our policy there was no profit for our country — some expenses, hemorrhoids and kidalovo.
    2. +1
      3 June 2020 19: 35
      All this does not resemble a serious policy, it reminds me more of a dispute between two illiterate newcomers at the grocery market, with all the dirty coloring, so to speak.
      Exactly!
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  13. +4
    2 June 2020 11: 47
    We have no friends and no friends .... I myself ...
    There are only fellow travelers ...
    1. AUL
      +3
      2 June 2020 14: 26
      Quote: Mouse
      There are only fellow travelers ...

      And then, only while IM is on the way with us!
  14. +1
    2 June 2020 12: 25
    "Russia has only two allies - its army and navy." Alexander III. It has been and will always be so.
  15. 0
    2 June 2020 12: 55
    The Moor has done his work; the Moor must leave.
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  17. +2
    2 June 2020 14: 21
    Viimo, after the "friendly proposal" to expand the territory of the Russian military bases, some "very proud and independent" Syrian deputies were blown away, they were very offended and could not even eat. It's time to start showing invoices for payment. Either bases and help with weapons, or let them go into the arms of Iranian friends and no help. Something like this.
  18. +5
    2 June 2020 14: 25
    You did not believe the Israelites, but it won’t go out, and they said, they warned.
  19. 0
    2 June 2020 14: 33
    Everything will be tip-top in Syria - the Russian Armed Forces are not going to utterly defeat the opponents of the Assad regime, especially since they make up the majority of the country's population (a political dialogue is being conducted with them, humanitarian assistance is being carried out, forces are being divided according to ethnic and religious composition, etc. .).

    The goal of the Russian Federation (unlike the USSR) is to have a military base in the Middle East and maintain a balance between the political forces of Syria so that they cut each other on their own, but in no case win the civil war. So the author of the article can sleep peacefully.
    1. AAK
      0
      2 June 2020 16: 48
      I would even say, a colleague, that in such a situation it would be better not a civil war, but any external adversary - Israel, Turkey, etc. ....
      1. 0
        2 June 2020 17: 11
        With the external enemy of Syria in the person of Israel, we have already passed - during the Soviet era. The internal opponent of the ruling regime is somehow more reliable.
  20. +4
    2 June 2020 15: 33
    I don’t understand what are we doing there? It’s always more expensive to negotiate with Arabs.
    1. +2
      2 June 2020 16: 10
      Quote: veritas
      It’s always more expensive to negotiate with Arabs.

      You are absolutely right. The entire article is about these old proven rake.
  21. +3
    2 June 2020 16: 11
    The USSR, and now Russia, has been stubbornly investing money, material and human resources in Arabs for more than 60 years. I'm not talking about comprehensive political support at all levels. And for all this time there were no dividends, either materially or politically. Continuous headache and hemorrhoids.
    By the end of the 50 of the USSR, the governments of the countries of the Arab world were routinely divided into backward feudal monarchical ones, such as Saudi Arabia, Morocco or Oman, and progressive ones - people's democratic ones, such as Egypt, Syria and Iraq. If the West looked at the Arab world through the prism of oil reserves, the USSR did not need Arab oil, but the USSR’s foreign policy reflected the concept of global competition between the two world systems in the second half of the 60s.

    Arab countries used the Soviet-Western contradictions simply sophisticated. It was enough to loudly call oneself a “democratic republic”, speculate about a “socialist orientation” and declare a struggle against colonialism and neo-colonialism, as these words turned into quite tangible economic and military bonuses from the USSR, the CMEA countries and the Warsaw Pact.

    Back in 1966, Nasser signed an agreement with Moscow, according to which the USSR gained access to ports on the Mediterranean and Red Seas and three Egyptian airfields. On the Mediterranean Sea, Soviet ships stood in Port Said, Alexandria and Mersa Matruh, and in the Red Sea the USSR had a base in Ras Banas. In exchange, Moscow pledged to increase the supply of weapons and provide military specialists.

    The new regime in Syria did the same: it included two communists in the cabinet, sent several leaders to Moscow to “courses for young leaders” and nationalized a significant part of private enterprises. It looked like this, that Syria had clearly embarked on the path of becoming the first socialist state in the Arab world, and this instilled in the USSR confidence that it received an even more reliable base there than in Egypt. The USSR naval base on the Syrian coast was located in Latakia. Of course, I had to fork out and take out 120 million dollars for the construction of hydraulic structures on the Euphrates River, but who looks at such trifles in anticipation of new political dividends.

    (From an article on VO: "War of attrition. Part 2." Caucasus "at Sinai")
  22. +1
    2 June 2020 16: 32
    It seems to be so, but only:
    MOSCOW, May 29 - RIA Novosti. President Vladimir Putin instructed the ministries of defense and foreign affairs to negotiate with Syria on the transfer of additional real estate and water to the Russian military. The order is published on the official portal of legal information.
    And it was also agreed that the lease is unlimited, no matter how it sounds.
  23. +2
    2 June 2020 18: 07
    Quote: rocket757
    Where are we running, who to help, a list of p.zh.s.st. and where are we
    threw it. The conversation is not about the USSR, about now.
    Transpose the error matrix of one state to another ... this still needs to be proved.

    It’s rather not transposition and automorphism laughing
    Errors stem from the fact that the "field" of the "game" and the "players" have not changed much.
    Although I see the expansion of the "field" of vision from the side of player P, Israel is no longer the same and the enemy, as it was written ...
  24. 0
    3 June 2020 19: 37
    Quote: NordUral
    And what does it change, Sergey? We are infidels for them, they are Gentiles for our believers.

    Nothing. There is a place where infidels become faithful. On our sinful earth ...
  25. +1
    4 June 2020 00: 19
    Everything is determined by our goals in Syria.
    Why are we there?
    End ISIS? This is not a goal, this is an occasion. Save Assad's throne? And this is not a goal, it is a means. Do we need Syrian oil? We would have to sell our own. We want to make money on weapons? You can begin to describe the palace of Assad with the whole atmosphere - there will be no other. No, we just need a military bridgehead in the BV, so we have it.

    Thirty years have passed .. Forgotten "the struggle for the happiness of the working people of the whole Earth", and the country is different, and the leadership is different, but, like in a bad dream, everything repeats itself - the paradigm of a bipolar world, in which we must certainly play the role of the second pole, and absurd the geopolitical ambitions of the leaders. Hence everything else: we do not choose friends, but enemies, and instead of allies we have satellites; and the role of the satellite is never liked by anyone.
    Assad understands very well that it is not he who is us, but we are using him, therefore he does not bind himself with a feeling of gratitude, but begins to play on the contradictions between us and Iran in order to make both of his "allies" agreeable.

    What awaits us in this perspective?
    It is noticed that if you go the same road in the same direction, you come to the same place. Where are the billions pumped by the Soviet Union into Iraq, Egypt, Syria? In quicksand. Some of the broken equipment that cannot be restored is still there.
    What was the net result of the political efforts of the Soviet Union in the Middle East? Geopolitical failure.
    So this time will be the same.
  26. 0
    7 June 2020 13: 47
    In Syria, the roots of the ziggurat, and the ziggurat is the key to the USSR. Therefore, he perfectly says that he can pull the rug out from under his feet ....
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