In Kiev, announced the plan to re-equip the Ukrainian Air Force with new fighters

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine intends to completely re-equip the Air Force of the country with new aircraft. The reform of the Ukrainian Air Force will be carried out in three stages, the corresponding plan has already been approved by the Military Council of the Air Force of Ukraine.


According to the portal defense-ua.com, the implementation of the plan should go through 2035. At the first preparatory stage, which will take five years (until 2025 inclusive), it is planned to announce a tender for the purchase of new aircraft. After determining the winner of the tender, it is planned to purchase from 6 to 12 multipurpose fighters (2021-2022). The trial operation of new fighters is planned to begin in 2023-2025. As applicants for delivery are considered Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen, F-16 Block 70/72 and others.

The second five-year stage (until 2030) will be transitional to planned tactical equipment aviation. During this stage, it is planned to establish regular deliveries of new combat aircraft with the simultaneous removal of obsolete equipment from the Air Force. It is planned to supply from 8 to 12 multi-purpose aircraft per year. In addition, the aircraft will have to get rid of certain types of aviation, instead of assault, bomber and reconnaissance aircraft, units equipped with drones will be deployed. By 2030, the re-equipment of transport and special aviation will also begin.

The third five-year stage (until 2035) is to complete the re-equipment of the Air Force of the Armed Forces. By this year, all obsolete equipment should be removed from the Air Force. According to the plan, by 2035 the Ukrainian Air Force should have: at least 4 tactical aviation brigades armed with a modern unified multi-purpose fighter of the 4 ++ generation; at least 4 brigades (regiments) of strike and reconnaissance drones; transport and special aviation brigade; training aviation brigade.

It is planned to spend about 200 billion UAH ($ 7,5 billion) on the purchase of new multi-functional fighters, while it is planned to allocate about 320 billion hryvnias for 15 years to retool the Air Force. Part of the funds for this program in Kiev is planned to be received from partner countries and NATO allies.
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  1. A009 23 May 2020 12: 05 New
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    Typo on Freud - "... go to 20235"
    )))
    1. HAM
      HAM 23 May 2020 12: 07 New
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      No, it will be so ....
    2. Wedmak 23 May 2020 12: 09 New
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      But honestly!!! ))) Around this year, Ukraine will find the opportunity to purchase Gripenov, F-16 and others.
      1. A009 23 May 2020 12: 12 New
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        It is extremely doubtful. By then it will be a very expensive rarity.
        1. Wedmak 23 May 2020 12: 17 New
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          Yes, I will probably agree. Extremely expensive and protected rarity.
        2. knn54 23 May 2020 13: 02 New
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          By this time, the Indians will begin to make their “4 ++.” And, I think, inexpensive.
      2. Sky strike fighter 23 May 2020 12: 13 New
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        According to the portal defense-ua.com, the implementation of the plan should go through 20235.

        Offset good At least once they told the truth. Then it will be possible to find all these Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen, F-16 Block 70/72 in the garbage dump and play them a bit. Like with the Bulgarian MiG-21s who wanted to push to Croatia.
        1. Wedmak 23 May 2020 12: 16 New
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          Perhaps you're right, but rather, not in the trash, but canned in acrylic (or whatever the analogue will be there), so as not to crumble from time to time.
      3. Cyril G ... 23 May 2020 12: 16 New
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        Used tires debited after 30 years of service ....
      4. businessv 24 May 2020 14: 08 New
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        Quote: Wedmak
        Around this year, Ukraine will find the opportunity to purchase Gripenov, F-16 and others.
        I think that to any plans that are independent, without fail, an attribution should be made: "in the absence of a Maidan." After all, they are just fans of rake dancing!
    3. Bad_gr 23 May 2020 20: 20 New
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      ...... Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen, F-16 Block 70/72 and others are considered as applicants for delivery.
      The word “others,” apparently, means F-22 and F-35.
      1. bang 24 May 2020 21: 20 New
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        And also B-21 Raider)
  2. rocket757 23 May 2020 12: 06 New
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    Us sho you want, for their money .... freeloaders, in a word.
    No matter how it turns out, on the other side of “cooperation,” there are fraudsters who do not really need a mess without a pen.
    1. tihonmarine 23 May 2020 12: 20 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      Us sho you want, for their money .... freeloaders, in a word.

      The West has already been taught, no one will give money to the "fox Alice and the cat Basilio".
      1. rocket757 23 May 2020 12: 28 New
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        This is not important. This government needs to be invigorated by any means, otherwise no one really loves them. They would still stand the night and hold out the day ..... the straws where necessary, lay more and ... and jump on time!
        1. tihonmarine 23 May 2020 12: 36 New
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          Quote: rocket757
          This government needs to be invigorated by any means, otherwise no one really loves them.

          The jumpers have already trampled their boots for 6 years of jumping, asking for compensation for the trampled boots.
          1. rocket757 23 May 2020 13: 14 New
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            Well, they’ve cleaned their visa-free travel now, they can now “freely” go to the gayanyu to fight the gayuns! Shaw they still have something to drink?
            1. tihonmarine 23 May 2020 13: 22 New
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              Quote: rocket757
              Shaw they still have something to drink?

              To earn on boots.
              1. rocket757 23 May 2020 13: 29 New
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                Without boots, one who does not show any activity at all, just gallop. Even at them they can look askance.
      2. They may not give money, but F16, like they donate free military assistance. After all, besides the “Humvee” and the “Iceland” they put the “Javelins”?
        1. Sky strike fighter 23 May 2020 13: 07 New
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          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          They may not give money, but F16, like they donate free military assistance. After all, besides the “Humvee” and the “Iceland” they put the “Javelins”?

          Not a fact. The F-16s were not even given the money. At one time, the USA refused Israel to export the F-16 to the country as a NATO member, Croatia. It depends on NATO’s plans for Ukraine. Ukraine, following the example of the Baltic States and Croatia, may open its skies in the future for aviation in Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Hungary, Turkey.
          in the article, the Croatian author points out that “farewell to the Air Force” could have been inspired by NATO. In particular, he refers to the opinion once expressed by American experts that Croatia has enough combat helicopters. And he notes that according to the agreements existing within the alliance, Croatia opens its skies to the military aircraft of Italy and Hungary, whose aircraft will completely replace Croatian aircraft in it over time.

          https://m.politnavigator.net/khorvatskaya-pressa-napugana-usileniem-armii-serbii.html
          1. rocket757 23 May 2020 13: 20 New
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            To make a passage yard for the Allies on the outskirts of the outskirts, yes it can.
        2. rocket757 23 May 2020 13: 18 New
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          jaba is it sho, the prodigy of all the prodigies?
          And the rest is not so first fresh, but about the new planes the skakuasa may not even stutter.
          1. Ryazan87 23 May 2020 13: 30 New
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            And who is talking about new planes? Used on credit may well give a dozen of 2-3. Actually, this is the only real option for the Ukrainian Air Force, it is not particularly believed in the purchase of the "Swedes".
            1. rocket757 23 May 2020 13: 33 New
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              On credit. Second-hand imported, it’s such a ge / M / op ..... there is a repair base, spare parts, so much training is needed for u! This is a RAKE that many have already jumped on.
              1. Peter is not the first 23 May 2020 14: 26 New
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                So this will be the calculation, that would make money on the sale of used aircraft on credit, and then lend for a long time under the straw for maintenance, repair and spare parts.
                So to deter Russia from America with NATO, junk and loans are not a pity.
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          1. rocket757 23 May 2020 14: 36 New
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            Doubtful happiness ... there, in order for Schaub the penguin to simply ride on the airfield, expenses, expenses .....
    2. Mountain shooter 23 May 2020 12: 21 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      Us sho you want, for their money .... freeloaders, in a word.

      "Partners" will figure out what to put on them ... No one else has received such a technique for nothing, except, of course, Israel ... But Outskirts have never been "Promised Land" ...
      1. rocket757 23 May 2020 12: 31 New
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        For their "partners", they are outstretched .... throw "scrap" on poverty and all the care! Yes, they will tear off their "penny" for scrap, that's how it is.
        1. Cyril G ... 23 May 2020 13: 07 New
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          Scrap metal is free, but spare parts, spare motors and everything else will have to be bought ..... Poles from F-16 howled at a speed of 30-40 percent .. But since our FSE rake now wants F-35 ..
          1. rocket757 23 May 2020 13: 22 New
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            The brains are shaken there, foreheads will be covered with pans and let's go over the rake!
  3. AlexVas44 23 May 2020 12: 07 New
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    At the first preparatory stage, which will take five years (until 2025 inclusive), it is planned to announce a tender for the purchase of new aircraft.

    Fundamentally, as much as 5 years on plans to announce a tender !!!
    1. tihonmarine 23 May 2020 12: 22 New
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      Quote: AlexVas44
      Fundamentally, as much as 5 years on plans to announce a tender !!

      A new joke in Ukrainian "I have no money, but I am announcing a tender for procurement." It is interesting and who will lead to this.
      1. Polite Moose 23 May 2020 13: 25 New
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        A new joke in Ukrainian "I have no money, but I am announcing a tender for procurement." It is interesting and who will lead to this.

        If a tender is announced,
        Not having a penny
        You can get a rating
        Good for 5 years
        Light mriya replace
        People have anxiety
        After all, the expectation overcame
        Too much
  4. Mouse 23 May 2020 12: 08 New
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    implementation of the plan should go through 20235

    Reform of the Ukrainian Air Force will be carried out in three stages

    Apparently three stages are not enough ....
  5. orionvitt 23 May 2020 12: 10 New
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    Where did the money come from? They are asking the IMF for a pitiful billion, they have already sold the land, but they don’t have any money. . Ukro fleet armed with inflatable scows, in line with the Air Force. It is a pity that inflatable boats do not fly, which means they will put hang gliders into service. laughing
  6. yfast 23 May 2020 12: 12 New
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    It would be nice to get the F-16 through the Donbass for study. But hard to believe.
    1. Cyril G ... 23 May 2020 12: 18 New
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      Do you think they didn’t ask in Venezuela? About Iran, I really heard that they got a F-14 radar from there and one Tomket for testing in the 80s .....
      1. yfast 23 May 2020 12: 23 New
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        There were no computers in the 80s yet. I meant the digital systems of the aircraft.
    2. Tuzik 23 May 2020 12: 20 New
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      it must not be studied, but put in a museum.
  7. Mavrikiy 23 May 2020 12: 12 New
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    320 billion hryvnia in 15 years. Part of the funds for this program in Kiev is planned to be received from partner countries and NATO allies.
    What's new? For them, the usual scheme. The IMF is preparing to roll today, and NATO tomorrow.
    1. Sky strike fighter 23 May 2020 12: 23 New
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      They will not be able to throw anyone. Even if they don’t dream, they’ll overthrow them in full, up to buying up all their lands and evicting people from there. Three skins will be removed from them. You will see.
  8. Well done 23 May 2020 12: 14 New
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    Now they’ll saw billions and buy a pair of used AN-2, but according to the documents it will be F-35. Peremoga!
    1. Cyril G ... 23 May 2020 12: 20 New
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      I believe the next stage of the re-equipment of the Air Force and Air Defense search in landfills MiG-21 and SAM S-125 and recovery ....
      1. Well done 23 May 2020 12: 38 New
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        The film is such a "Wooden cannon." This is air defense! laughing
  9. Ham
    Ham 23 May 2020 12: 16 New
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    Part of the funds for this program in Kiev is planned to be received from partner countries and NATO allies

    as always, someone else should give money ...
    Super modern navy I think is already built?
    modern jet air forces can not afford any agricultural superpowers ...
  10. KVU-NSVD 23 May 2020 12: 18 New
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    The plan is good in that it exists and in that the preparatory period with the asking price will last five years .. Five years of prosperity and kickbacks, and after five years of the current aviation and military authorities will no longer be at their posts. So the plan is good.
  11. Zaurbek 23 May 2020 12: 18 New
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    The best option is the Chinese version of the Yak130 with Ukrainian turbojet engines L-15 ... and used F16 or bu Grippen. But there is an ambush (even if they are given free of charge) infrastructure and ammunition .....
    1. Insurgent 23 May 2020 12: 34 New
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      Quote: Zaurbek
      The best option is the Chinese version of the Yak130 with Ukrainian turbojet engines L-15 ... and used F16 or bu Grippen. But there is an ambush (even if they are given free of charge) infrastructure and ammunition .....

      The best option is to learn how to measure Wishlist with capabilities.

      After all, even at a primitive, consumer-everyday level,normal people , evaluate their ability to own a particular thing, with the ability to contain it (for example, a car).

      But here, as you know, the case when the law is not written to fools ...

  12. tihonmarine 23 May 2020 12: 18 New
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    It is planned to spend about 200 billion UAH ($ 7,5 billion) on the purchase of new multi-functional fighters, while it is planned to allocate about 320 billion hryvnias for 15 years to retool the Air Force. Part of the funds for this program in Kiev is planned to be received from partner countries and NATO allies.
    All this could be done at Antonov’s factories, and much cheaper. And everything imported depends on the factories of suppliers, and maintenance, and spare parts, and weapons, and this is bondage. But its all has long been profucano. And there is no money to buy fighters either, they are hoping for "NATO allies." But Ukraine is not a member of NATO, and it does not have allies, and who will give the beggar money on credit, not to mention that there are money that will give for free. Yes, and it is dangerous for NOTO to give a fighter to the Ruguli’s hand;
    1. Hwostatij 23 May 2020 14: 41 New
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      And you know a lot of Antonov fighters?
      1. Aviator_ 23 May 2020 22: 14 New
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        Well, the Sukhoi Design Bureau did (by organizing a GSS) a Super Budget passenger plane, why not Antonov try to make a fighter?
  13. Tuzik 23 May 2020 12: 20 New
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    to buy airplanes is only half the trouble, you need to change the entire infrastructure, ammunition, maintenance equipment, retrain pilots, staff .... a bunch of everything, even fuel.
    And the price of flight hours at f 16 is not small.
  14. Vasyan1971 23 May 2020 12: 23 New
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    Part of the funds for this program in Kiev is planned to be received from partner countries and NATO allies.

    Now let them get richer with a thought.
  15. BYCHARA 23 May 2020 12: 28 New
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    In Kiev, voiced the plan

    laughing Remember my word, the State Department with Israel they palm off Fu -35 defective, but flying so far .. Here will be a rethink! It will fly over Kiev on torchlight processions .. well, and a couple of times from afar it will fire at the villages of Donbass ..
    Or maybe Poland will palm them a couple of these, and then the slaves will work on the fields of strawberries and pig farms))))
    1. Zaurbek 23 May 2020 13: 16 New
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      Most likely along the path of "bros" go ..
  16. Piramidon 23 May 2020 12: 34 New
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    Part of the funds for this program in Kiev is planned to be received from partner countries and NATO Allies.

    Apparently with this self-isolation, I missed something.recourse Shumeria already joined NATO, or what? belay Or, once again, in shit? request
    1. Terenin 23 May 2020 12: 55 New
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      Quote: Piramidon
      Part of the funds for this program in Kiev is planned to be received from partner countries and NATO Allies.

      Apparently with this self-isolation, I missed something.recourse Shumeria already joined NATO, or what? belay Or, once again, in shit? request

      I want to join NATO, even through ... shit winked
      1. BYCHARA 23 May 2020 14: 34 New
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        Quote: Terenin
        I want to join NATO, even through ... shit

        And get into the shit!

        And here's another ..)))

        [/ Center]
        It’s disgusting for me to post these photos, but I have to .. so they don’t say later ..
        What about us?
  17. Yury Siritsky 23 May 2020 12: 40 New
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    I wonder where they will get the money or they will shed some old stuff as unnecessary.
    1. iouris 23 May 2020 12: 49 New
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      Quote: Yuri Siritsky
      I wonder where they get the money

      Ask where Georgia got under Saakashvili in an amount commensurate with the state budget to organize "080808". Already by the size of the military budget of Georgia, it was clear that a military operation (war) was inevitable. However, the Russian Federation was "not ready" for war. Even the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation (as evil tongues say) was allegedly not immediately found.
      1. Zaurbek 23 May 2020 13: 17 New
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        In Georgia, the police and the state apparatus are financed from the United States ... the army - I don’t know.
      2. Aviator_ 23 May 2020 22: 16 New
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        Even the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation (as evil tongues say) was allegedly not immediately found.

        And it’s good that not immediately, otherwise they would have lost with such a minister.
  18. Vitaly Tsymbal 23 May 2020 12: 52 New
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    Well, finally .... And then all the walls and walls, with strongholds))) A new generation - new eggs)))
  19. Sergei 777 23 May 2020 13: 00 New
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    Ukraine has a huge budget deficit. With such fin indicators, they will not be able to allocate significant amounts for the purchase of new aircraft.
    Remember the program of the Ukrainian corvette? 9 year build, 40% readiness. But a corvette is much cheaper than a squadron of fighters (a corvette of $ 250 million and 12 fighters from $ 600 million)
    So the most real thing is the purchase of used aircraft from some sort of Belgium. Although this will not solve the problem.
    Yes, and not the fact that they will sell. Indeed, in the event of any instability, any pilot can fly to Russia.
  20. Doctor 23 May 2020 13: 04 New
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    According to the plan, by 2035 the Ukrainian Air Force should have: at least 4 tactical aviation brigades,

    And that in the West the Air Force is also organized into brigades? And what structure, who will say?
    1. Gato 24 May 2020 01: 37 New
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      There are brigades, but the direct owners have squadrons, groups and wings. The wing at the airbase with all appendicitis (grouping) approximately corresponds to the brigade.
      But by American standards, the squadron includes 3 squadrons with an average of 20 aircraft each, where the Ukrlufs are going to collect equipment for 4 brigades - I don’t know request
  21. mark1 23 May 2020 13: 16 New
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    I think they will be given everything and paid for everything. Ukraine plays too important a role in the confrontation between the USA (namely, it and not the whole West) and Russia. Soon it may become no laughing matter if we giggle like that
    1. Looking for 23 May 2020 15: 20 New
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      Unfortunately, your vision of the problem is not popular here. There is hatred and boasting here. Although Russia has nothing to be proud of now. Even in Ukraine, the Bandera people say "Russia is not the USSR. And the Russian army is not the Red Army." Imagine if Rogues understand this. then in the world they have understood this for a long time. And in Russia everyone continues to sing "If tomorrow is war .."
  22. 7,62h54 23 May 2020 13: 16 New
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    Rather, the Selyuks will join NATO and let American bases go.
    1. TermNachTer 23 May 2020 13: 28 New
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      And who will take them there? The geyrope already understood who they contacted.
      1. Alex Justice 24 May 2020 17: 59 New
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        What they’ll come up with is only to bring the bases closer to Russia.
  23. TermNachTer 23 May 2020 13: 28 New
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    Rzhu nimagu))) there is no money to maintain the flight condition of what is. And they are going to buy new)))
  24. Pavel73 23 May 2020 13: 37 New
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    Lord, what did these former Russian people turn into ... Ukraine is the shame of Russia.
  25. Keyser soze 23 May 2020 13: 58 New
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    It will not work for Ukrainians. First they need a working economy. Otherwise, they will not be able to buy anything. Western fighters are a new and different infrastructure, training, ammunition, radars, interaction and control systems, etc. And the fighters themselves are no more than half the total.
  26. Pvi1206 23 May 2020 14: 04 New
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    dreaming is not bad ... here they are ... the fruits of true independence ...
  27. toha124 23 May 2020 14: 13 New
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    In terms of error they have. The first point is to send a group of senior officers of the Povitryanіkh forces for a one-year internship in India! No, of course, our globe neighbors are able to agree on the amount of gratitude to the supplier. And they even reached certain heights in this difficult matter. But to do it so beautifully, unpredictably, with songs and dances, only specialists from New Delhi can.
  28. toha124 23 May 2020 14: 17 New
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    It all depends on what plans for Ukraine by this time will be overseas. If there are no special plans, then their Air Force will be reduced to a mixed air brigade as part of the ground forces.
  29. Phoenix 23 May 2020 14: 30 New
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    If it relies on US money, it would be more accurate to assume that they will not be given money, but NATO patrols will be launched, as in the Baltic states. So much cheaper. And drones can get.
  30. Egoza 23 May 2020 14: 33 New
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    I have only one question: "Will Ukraine still exist in 15 years?"
    1. Looking for 23 May 2020 15: 27 New
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      You are talking about a country or a regime.
    2. V.I.P. 23 May 2020 17: 00 New
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      There will be ... ... ...... They promised that 2016 will not survive because of the winter and lack of money .... 2020. Everything is fine with them. Gazprom seized the money, extended the transit with Gazprom for 5 years and will again prolong it))) ... .. they killed all the media commanders of the militia, killed the head of the DPR, Zakharchenko, dragged the old anti-aircraft defense officer from the republic across the border, they bought javelins))) ....
  31. Radius 23 May 2020 14: 33 New
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    Buying airplanes is half the battle. They need to be maintained, maintained, repaired. And it costs as much evergreen ...
  32. Ratmir_Ryazan 23 May 2020 14: 36 New
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    It is planned to supply from 8 to 12 multi-purpose aircraft per year.


    According to the plan, by 2035 the Ukrainian Air Force should have: at least 4 tactical aviation brigades armed with a modern unified multi-purpose fighter of the 4 ++ generation; at least 4 brigades (regiments) of strike and reconnaissance drones; transport and special aviation brigade; training aviation brigade.


    Part of the funds for this program in Kiev is planned to be received from partner countries and NATO allies.


    Lip no fool ))). Let’s look at how much they will really master. And there you look, someone will take and maybe to Russia F-16 and even overtake))).
    1. kit88 23 May 2020 15: 02 New
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      I don’t know what “brigade” means in their concept, and even more so 4 "brigades", but at best $ 7,5 billion they will at best complete one regiment with F-16 Block 70/72.
      / this does not include the shrinkage and shaking of the allocated money on the way from the Ministry of Finance to the seller of aircraft / laughing
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan 23 May 2020 16: 52 New
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        You are from aviation, tell us about the structure and number of units at us and at them.

        We have a regiment as far as I understand 3 squadrons of 12 aircraft, and then how?

        Judging by the contract with Bulgaria, one F-16 block 70 will cost $ 150 million all with everything.

        Total 7,5 will be able to buy 50 fighters, it will be about the same as in Poland.
        1. kit88 23 May 2020 23: 09 New
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          The Bulgarians got 157 million, and the Slovaks already 207 million. And these are all NATO members.
          It is unlikely that a non-member country will be sold cheaper. Total not more than 35 pieces - just a full regiment typed.

          And we have a regiment; then either a division or a corps; then the army.
          1. Ratmir_Ryazan 24 May 2020 10: 43 New
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            And we have a regiment; then either a division or a corps; then the army.


            And how many planes are in such units?
            1. kit88 24 May 2020 14: 40 New
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              You understand that this is not units, but units, formations and associations.
              Nobody will tell you the exact numbers.
              This is for you to contact the Air Force headquarters.
              We at the regiment at different times had from 30 to 50 sides, given the "firewood". The regiment entered the corps in which at different times there were 3-2-1 IAPs (reforms, however). The corps was part of the Army ... well, etc.
              1. Ratmir_Ryazan 24 May 2020 16: 28 New
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                Yes, I have enough and approximate, just to navigate.
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    Eug 23 May 2020 14: 39 New
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    I suspect that Ukrainian development based on the Chinese L-15 will also be featured, but whether they will manage to bring it to mass production and how it will be treated across the ocean is a question.
  34. Ovsigovets 23 May 2020 15: 53 New
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    Ukraine’s military budget for 2020 TOTAL 246 billion hryvnias, of which 17 billion hryvnias (NOT DOLLARS) are planned for the purchase and development of novya ... and I’m not looking any deeper for how much on the Air Force .... i.e. at the moment 635 million dollars .... we think further ... Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen - 48 million dollars .... F-16 Block 70/72 - 50 million dollars ... and it's bare airplanes ... without infrastructure, without training and without power supply ..... 6 pieces (2020-2021) + 8 pcs. X 5 years (until 2030) + well, and let another 8 pcs. X 5 years (until 2035) = 86 units for 15 years or $ 4,1 billion for 15 years only on bare planes ... but in fact Brazil bought 36 Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen for $ 5,4 billion. ....those. 86 aircraft = 12,9 billion dollars. DELIM for 15 = 860 million dollars. ANNUALLY from 635 million which ALL have ALL ALL new weapons and R&D ..... and this is the minimum of their plans .... let's calculate the maximum of 6 pieces. (until 2025) + 12 pcs X 5 years (until 2030) + 12 pcs X 5 years (until 2035) = 126 years = 18,9 billion dollars / 15 years = 1,26 billion dollars a year ..... ..M-MATHEMATICS - Queen of Sciences
    1. iouris 23 May 2020 16: 04 New
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      Now "higher mathematics". Brazil does not border the Russian Federation. All of the above obsolete "non-lethal equipment" can be delivered very quickly and formally on credit. Further, the loan will need to be repaid by organizing a major military operation. They do not need to capture to Vladivostok. In Moscow, they will pretend that all this is nonsense. But if this nonsense completely destabilizes the situation around and inside, then this is not nonsense. Efforts should be made to drop Ukraine as a factor. Unless, of course, there are other plans.
  35. Ovsigovets 23 May 2020 15: 58 New
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    Quote: mark1
    I think they will be given everything and paid for everything. Ukraine plays too important a role in the confrontation between the USA (namely, it and not the whole West) and Russia. Soon it may become no laughing matter if we giggle like that

    already as SIX years they play a very important role ... and notice during the most active "asking" for help ... SIX years CARL ... and now sound what and how much they have been sold or given significantly and really serious ??? I agree with you that we need to prepare for the worst ...... but even in the most difficult moments, the WEST DOES NOTHING ANYTHING .... only sale, only business
    1. mark1 23 May 2020 17: 25 New
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      They will give ... The role of Ukraine is a territory for a bridgehead and a splinter constantly tormenting Russia. For a constant “painful” impact, a modern air regiment (better than 3) and some used frigates are quite enough. And then "dementia and courage" and "support" of the "whole" world community. There will be a lot of stench and hemorrhoids ... and so on.
  36. Ovsigovets 23 May 2020 16: 08 New
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    Quote: iouris
    Now "higher mathematics". Brazil does not border the Russian Federation. All of the above obsolete "non-lethal equipment" can be delivered very quickly and formally on credit. Further, the loan will need to be repaid by organizing a major military operation. They do not need to capture to Vladivostok. In Moscow, they will pretend that all this is nonsense. But if this nonsense completely destabilizes the situation around and inside, then this is not nonsense. Efforts should be made to drop Ukraine as a factor. Unless, of course, there are other plans.
    "
    "I can drown an aircraft carrier ... theoretically" (C) ... war is primarily an economy .... the money invested MUST be repulsed - a total of 126 aircraft in exchange for ALL that is now .... I'm certainly a patriot, BUT not .... mathematics are all the same .... with 126 planes in total, of course they will unleash the war and defeat ... and the DEBT will be returned .... I refuse to "rave garbage" with you at the same time ... BUT it is necessary to prepare and keep the powder dry whether there is Ukraine or not
  37. Ovsigovets 23 May 2020 16: 10 New
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    Quote: iouris
    Now "higher mathematics". Brazil does not border the Russian Federation. All of the above obsolete "non-lethal equipment" can be delivered very quickly and formally on credit. Further, the loan will need to be repaid by organizing a major military operation. They do not need to capture to Vladivostok. In Moscow, they will pretend that all this is nonsense. But if this nonsense completely destabilizes the situation around and inside, then this is not nonsense. Efforts should be made to drop Ukraine as a factor. Unless, of course, there are other plans.

    and by the way it is QUICKly voiced - until 2035 .....
  38. Andrey Zhukov 23 May 2020 16: 14 New
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    NATO partners will attach a used F-16 Payment for their repair / modernization at the expense of US “assistance” (similar to Island boats)
  39. Ovsigovets 23 May 2020 16: 22 New
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    Quote: Andrey Zhukov
    NATO partners will attach a used F-16 Payment for their repair / modernization at the expense of US “assistance” (similar to Island boats)

    the freshest "Island" is 28 years old .... do you imagine planes of 28 years old ???)))) the change was sewn to soap
    1. Andrey Zhukov 23 May 2020 17: 50 New
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      change sewed on soap

      after repair and modernization, it’s quite an efficient option. And the transition to NATO standards again
      Yes, and almost for free ...
      In Iran, over F-15s fly for 50 years and are still in service
  40. Lord of the Sith 23 May 2020 17: 09 New
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    I wonder who will sell the serious equipment to the monkeys, if at all.
    Poland, of course, can still sell old Soviet planes))
  41. Boris ⁣ Shaver 23 May 2020 17: 32 New
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    (until 2035) must complete the re-equipment of the Air Force of the Armed Forces. By this year, all obsolete equipment should be withdrawn from the Air Force.

    Ingenious. You wait until the equipment itself falls apart, and you say that it’s all according to your plan.
  42. Ravil_Asnafovich 23 May 2020 17: 38 New
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    I don’t care about their Air Force, I didn’t hear something in our zombies, 21.05.20/XNUMX/XNUMX. Major General S.M. Kramarenko, the hero of the Soviet Union, died. This was the last pilot character who received the title of Hero of the Soviet Union for participating in the war in Korea.
  43. Ovsigovets 23 May 2020 17: 50 New
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    Quote: mark1
    They will give ... The role of Ukraine is a territory for a bridgehead and a splinter constantly tormenting Russia. For a constant “painful” impact, a modern air regiment (better than 3) and some used frigates are quite enough. And then "dementia and courage" and "support" of the "whole" world community. There will be a lot of stench and hemorrhoids ... and so on.

    Once again ... SIX long years of war with the aggressor and the universal stench of "the whole civilized world" and what in fact was given ???? There will be a lot of stench and hemorrhoids, BUT only in words. Any attempt to influence using 3 air regiments and used frigates may result in the loss of the state. Already had the experience of “killing a little bit of Russians” in Georgia ..... Dima iPhone fried only scraps flew ...... 126 airplanes instead of everything that has been there right now for 15 years - this is not so little, but it’s not at all Little
  44. Ovsigovets 23 May 2020 18: 01 New
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    Quote: mark1
    They will give ... The role of Ukraine is a territory for a bridgehead and a splinter constantly tormenting Russia. For a constant “painful” impact, a modern air regiment (better than 3) and some used frigates are quite enough. And then "dementia and courage" and "support" of the "whole" world community. There will be a lot of stench and hemorrhoids ... and so on.

    and the next scenario - in 15 years they will have 126 4 ++ level combat aircraft ... what is now in the Russian Air Force out of 4 ++: SU-35 (90 pcs.) SU-27 (101 pcs.) SU-30 ( 111 pieces) MIG-29 (114 pieces) MiG-30 (90 pieces) FIGHTERS - 506 pieces .... SU-34 (122 pieces) SU-24 (168 pieces) SU-25 (194 pieces) FRONT - 484 pieces
  45. Ovsigovets 23 May 2020 18: 04 New
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    Quote: Ovsigovets
    change sewed on soap

    after repair and modernization, it’s quite an efficient option. And the transition to NATO standards again
    Yes, and almost for free ...
    In Iran, over F-15s fly for 50 years and are still in service

    is free???? are you serious))))))) and many have already given away for free ??? ... once again - for 15 years a maximum of 126 aircraft - and I didn’t say that - they said that ... and the aircraft are normal .....
    1. Andrey Zhukov 23 May 2020 20: 24 New
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      no matter how many planes - it’s important to switch to NATO standards. get away from shovels.
      about free - yes, ALMOST free.
      Have you heard about American military assistance? javelins there etc.
      even if it will be necessary to pay extra - in any case it will be a multiple of less than new to buy
  46. tagil 23 May 2020 19: 00 New
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    According to the portal defense-ua.com, the implementation of the plan should go through 2035.
    And the territory on which Ukraine is located by then will still be Ukraine. A moot point.
  47. lvov_aleksey 23 May 2020 19: 30 New
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    they will get what they want. Navy also corresponds to reality))))
  48. camo ridges 23 May 2020 20: 06 New
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    Dreamy idiocy will never leave these
    amazing inhabitants of a blessed country.
    The main thing is to proclaim and think that all this
    will come true. And inflate from your own significance.
    And rely on Western partners who
    for all the post-maiden years, in fact, not a damn thing for them
    did not and are not going to do. But hardly
    sad reality is able to reason
    these broad lads - they will wag their tails
    in front of their owners and hope for handouts ...
  49. Andrey Zhukov 23 May 2020 20: 25 New
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    Quote: Ovsigovets
    Quote: Andrey Zhukov
    Quote: Ovsigovets
    change sewed on soap

    after repair and modernization, it’s quite an efficient option. And the transition to NATO standards again
    Yes, and almost for free ...
    In Iran, over F-15s fly for 50 years and are still in service

    is free???? are you serious))))))) and many have already given away for free ??? ... once again - for 15 years a maximum of 126 aircraft - and I didn’t say that - they said that ... and the aircraft are normal .....

    no matter how many planes - it’s important to switch to NATO standards. get away from shovels.
    about free - yes, ALMOST free.
    Have you heard about American military assistance? javelins there etc.
    even if it will be necessary to pay extra - in any case it will be a multiple of less than new to buy!
  50. nnz226 23 May 2020 20: 49 New
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    V.S. Vysotsky formulated the main question for the implementation of these plans: "Where is the money, Zin ?!"
  51. Radikal 23 May 2020 21: 52 New
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    Quote: mark1
    I think they will be given everything and paid for everything. Ukraine plays too important a role in the confrontation between the USA (namely, it and not the whole West) and Russia. Soon it may become no laughing matter if we giggle like that

    That's right. In the 20th century, the industrial and financial circles of the West "gave birth" to Hitler to march on the USSR, in the 21st according to their plans, Ukraine should fulfill this task. sad hi
  52. Viktor Sergeev 23 May 2020 22: 09 New
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    It’s ridiculous. On Po2, bought at the price of F16, more likely.
  53. HMR333 23 May 2020 22: 46 New
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    The article about the fighter and the picture from the attack aircraft is genial!
  54. vkd.dvk 23 May 2020 23: 32 New
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    For such a militarily powerful country like Ukraine, we need strong aviation, consisting of 1,5-2 thousand units. With a procurement rate of 8-12 units per year, it will take more than a hundred years of evolution. During this time, the first purchased airplanes will turn into dust, and the process threatens to become endless. We need some more effective measures.
  55. Ovsigovets 24 May 2020 03: 12 New
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    no matter how many planes - it’s important to switch to NATO standards. get away from shovels.
    about free - yes, ALMOST free.
    Have you heard about American military assistance? javelins there etc.
    even if it will be necessary to pay extra - in any case it will be a multiple of less than new to buy

    remember the help is free of charge, but the fact that money is a product and it is not help ... besides the javelins, there is nothing to remember ... once again - SIX years of "uncompromising battles with the aggressor" have passed ...... IIIIIII ??? ? once again voice the scale of assistance ..... I can look into the supply of Lend-Lease and throw data from there for comparison .... cheaper ALWAYS to produce myself ...... buy someone else's always more expensive ...... buy old will eventually become even more expensive ..... an article about airplanes and not about cognac, which only gets better from age. 30 year old airplanes will not be better than new ones (the same type of airplanes) - it’s just the experience of using weapons and military equipment ..... such is the physics ...... NATO standards)))))) for starters, at least you can shoot at the caliber of the entire army Translate NATO ... and then scratching your tongue is not a NATO standard to introduce in fact .... and in this matter - SIX years have passed))) what standards doher have reached ????
  56. Ovsigovets 24 May 2020 03: 16 New
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    no matter how many planes - it’s important to switch to NATO standards.

    important ... here it is VERY important))))) at the present time it is very important to have air superiority)))) or do you give me a tale now about an American partner who dreams of dying for Ukraine ????? Negro Sheriff’s problems are being passed on - it was, is and will be. You will only have the army that you are able to personally pay
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      Quote: Ovsigovets
      Negro Sheriff's problems are on track

      Fu what politically incorrect you are! Not a Negro, but an African American. And so it’s not tr ... ok, don't have. hi
  57. Ovsigovets 24 May 2020 03: 17 New
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    Quote: Radikal
    Quote: mark1
    I think they will be given everything and paid for everything. Ukraine plays too important a role in the confrontation between the USA (namely, it and not the whole West) and Russia. Soon it may become no laughing matter if we giggle like that

    That's right. In the 20th century, the industrial and financial circles of the West "gave birth" to Hitler to march on the USSR, in the 21st according to their plans, Ukraine should fulfill this task. sad hi

    mmmmmmmmm ..... I do not like to "throw caps", but they don’t put on those in the 21st century ... this is not the Wehrmacht, this is not the Germans
  58. Guards turn 24 May 2020 05: 48 New
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    In Lviv, fighters arriving for repairs "Ukrainized"
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    Arrived on 18.02.2020/1/29 for repairs and upgrades in the version of MU26 at the Lviv State Aviation Repair Plant MiG-2960725860, board number 30, head. number 1988, issued on December 40, 1789, from 27 BrTA (military unit AXNUMX, aer.Vasilkov) as early as February XNUMX of this year. turned out to be understaffed and lost control units of systems.
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    The next day, February 27, a similar looting was revealed on four more MiG-29 fighters, which have been in storage since 2013 in military unit A2602 (aer. Lviv) from 114 BrTA (military aviation A1349, aer. Ivano-Frankivsk) , including:
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    - board number 08, head. number 2960721909;
    - board number 37, head. number 2960721840;
    - board number 41, head. number 2960707758.
  59. Ovsigovets 24 May 2020 13: 53 New
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    Quote: Guards turn
    In Lviv, fighters arriving for repairs "Ukrainized"
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    Arrived on 18.02.2020/1/29 for repairs and upgrades in the version of MU26 at the Lviv State Aviation Repair Plant MiG-2960725860, board number 30, head. number 1988, issued on December 40, 1789, from 27 BrTA (military unit AXNUMX, aer.Vasilkov) as early as February XNUMX of this year. turned out to be understaffed and lost control units of systems.
    .
    The next day, February 27, a similar looting was revealed on four more MiG-29 fighters, which have been in storage since 2013 in military unit A2602 (aer. Lviv) from 114 BrTA (military aviation A1349, aer. Ivano-Frankivsk) , including:
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    - board number 08, head. number 2960721909;
    - board number 37, head. number 2960721840;
    - board number 41, head. number 2960707758.

    as above the comrade wrote that they are fulfilling the most important thing ... they are switching to NATO standards .... this is a feasible contribution of Lviv
  60. Revolver 25 May 2020 04: 59 New
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    Besides this shirt, Zin,
    You put on - one shame.
    Arshin will go to you for sewing -
    Where's the moneyZin? ..
    © Vladimir Vysotsky
  61. Ovsigovets 25 May 2020 20: 24 New
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    Quote: Nagan
    Quote: Ovsigovets
    Negro Sheriff's problems are on track

    Fu what politically incorrect you are! Not a Negro, but an African American. And so it’s not tr ... ok, don't have. hi

    GOOD ..... the problems of the white nigra do not follow the SHERIFF of the African American ... so the rules ???