In Kiev, announced the plan to re-equip the Ukrainian Air Force with new fighters

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine intends to completely re-equip the Air Force of the country with new aircraft. The reform of the Ukrainian Air Force will be carried out in three stages, the corresponding plan has already been approved by the Military Council of the Air Force of Ukraine.

According to the portal defense-ua.com, the implementation of the plan should go through 2035. At the first preparatory stage, which will take five years (until 2025 inclusive), it is planned to announce a tender for the purchase of new aircraft. After determining the winner of the tender, it is planned to purchase from 6 to 12 multipurpose fighters (2021-2022). The trial operation of new fighters is planned to begin in 2023-2025. As applicants for delivery are considered Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen, F-16 Block 70/72 and others.

The second five-year stage (until 2030) will be transitional to planned tactical equipment aviation. During this stage, it is planned to establish regular deliveries of new combat aircraft with the simultaneous withdrawal of obsolete equipment from the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It is planned to supply from 8 to 12 multi-purpose aircraft per year. In addition, the Armed Forces will have to get rid of certain branches of aviation, instead of attack, bomber and reconnaissance aircraft, units equipped with drones. By 2030, the re-equipment of transport and special aviation will also begin.

The third five-year stage (until 2035) is to complete the re-equipment of the Air Force of the Armed Forces. By this year, all obsolete equipment should be removed from the Air Force. According to the plan, by 2035 the Ukrainian Air Force should have: at least 4 tactical aviation brigades armed with a modern unified multi-purpose fighter of the 4 ++ generation; at least 4 brigades (regiments) of strike and reconnaissance drones; transport and special aviation brigade; training aviation brigade.

It is planned to spend about 200 billion UAH ($ 7,5 billion) on the purchase of new multi-functional fighters, while it is planned to allocate about 320 billion hryvnias for 15 years to retool the Air Force. Part of the funds for this program in Kiev is planned to be received from partner countries and NATO allies.

Comments

[A009]

Freud's typo - "... go to 20235"
)))

[HAM]

No, it will be so ....

[Wedmak]

But honestly!!! ))) Around this year, Ukraine will find the opportunity to purchase Gripenov, F-16 and others.

[A009]

It is extremely doubtful. By then it will be a very expensive rarity.

[Wedmak]

Yes, I will probably agree. Extremely expensive and protected rarity.

[knn54]

By this time, the Indians will start making their own "4 ++." And, I think, inexpensive.

[Sky strike fighter]

According to the portal defense-ua.com, the implementation of the plan should go through 20235.

Offset At least once they told the truth. Then it will be possible to find all these Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen, F-16 Block 70/72 in the garbage dump and play them a bit. Like with the Bulgarian MiG-21s who wanted to push to Croatia.

[Wedmak]

Perhaps you're right, but rather, not in the trash, but canned in acrylic (or whatever the analogue will be there), so as not to crumble from time to time.

[Cyril G ...]

Used tires debited after 30 years of service ....

[businessv]

Quote: Wedmak

Around this year, Ukraine will find the opportunity to purchase Gripenov, F-16 and others.

I think that to any plans of the Square, it is imperative to make an attribution: "in the absence of the Maidan." After all, they are just fans of rake dancing!

[Bad_gr]

...... Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen, F-16 Block 70/72 and others are considered as applicants for delivery.

The word "others" apparently refers to the F-22 and F-35.

[bang]

And also B-21 Raider)

[rocket757]

Us sho you want, for their money .... freeloaders, in a word.
Whatever it turns out, on the other side of the "cooperation" there will be breakers who do not really need a chumadan without a handle.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

Us sho you want, for their money .... freeloaders, in a word.

The West has already been taught, no one will give money to "Alice the fox and Basilio the cat".

[rocket757]

This is not important. This government needs to be invigorated by any means, otherwise no one really loves them. They would still stand the night and hold out the day ..... the straws where necessary, lay more and ... and jump on time!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

This government needs to be invigorated by any means, otherwise no one really loves them.

The jumpers have already trampled their boots for 6 years of jumping, asking for compensation for the trampled boots.

[rocket757]

Well, they cleaned them without visas, they can now "freely" go to the geyropa to scrub them! Shaw they still need it?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

Shaw they still have something to drink?

To earn on boots.

[rocket757]

Without boots, one who does not show any activity at all, just gallop. Even at them they can look askance.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Money may not be given, but F16, as free military aid, will be vaped. After all, besides the "Humvee" and "Iceland", they installed "Javelins"?

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Money may not be given, but F16, as free military aid, will be vaped. After all, besides the "Humvee" and "Iceland", they installed "Javelins"?

Not a fact. The F-16s were not even given the money. At one time, the USA refused Israel to export the F-16 to the country as a NATO member, Croatia. It depends on NATO’s plans for Ukraine. Ukraine, following the example of the Baltic States and Croatia, may open its skies in the future for aviation in Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Hungary, Turkey.

in the article, the Croatian author points out that “farewell to the Air Force” could have been inspired by NATO. In particular, he refers to the opinion once expressed by American experts that Croatia has enough combat helicopters. And he notes that according to the agreements existing within the alliance, Croatia opens its skies to the military aircraft of Italy and Hungary, whose aircraft will completely replace Croatian aircraft in it over time.

https://m.politnavigator.net/khorvatskaya-pressa-napugana-usileniem-armii-serbii.html

[rocket757]

To make a passage yard for the Allies on the outskirts of the outskirts, yes it can.

[rocket757]

jaba is it sho, the prodigy of all the prodigies?
And the rest is not so first fresh, but about the new planes the skakuasa may not even stutter.

[Ryazan87]

Who is talking about new aircraft? Used on credit may well give a dozen 2-3. Actually, this is the only real option for the Ukrainian Air Force, it is hard to believe in the purchase of "Swedes".

[rocket757]

On credit. Second-hand imported, it’s such a ge / M / op ..... there is a repair base, spare parts, so much training is needed for u! This is a RAKE that many have already jumped on.

[Peter is not the first]

So this will be the calculation, that would make money on the sale of used aircraft on credit, and then lend for a long time under the straw for maintenance, repair and spare parts.
So to deter Russia from America with NATO, junk and loans are not a pity.

[rocket757]

Doubtful happiness ... there, in order for Schaub the penguin to simply ride on the airfield, expenses, expenses .....

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: rocket757

Us sho you want, for their money .... freeloaders, in a word.

The "partners" will figure out what to wear them on ... No one has ever received such equipment for nothing, except, of course, Israel ... But the Outskirts have never been a "Promised Land" ...

[rocket757]

For their "partners", they edge .... throw "scrap metal" on poverty and all the care! Yes, they will take off their "pretty penny" for scrap metal, as usual.

[Cyril G ...]

Scrap metal is free, but spare parts, spare motors and everything else will have to be bought ..... Poles from F-16 howled at a speed of 30-40 percent .. But since our FSE rake now wants F-35 ..

[rocket757]

The brains are shaken there, foreheads will be covered with pans and let's go over the rake!

[AlexVas44]

At the first preparatory stage, which will take five years (until 2025 inclusive), it is planned to announce a tender for the purchase of new aircraft.

Fundamentally, as much as 5 years on plans to announce a tender !!!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: AlexVas44

Fundamentally, as much as 5 years on plans to announce a tender !!

New anecdote in Ukrainian "I have no money, but I announce a procurement tender." Interesting and who will lead to this.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: tihonmarine

New anecdote in Ukrainian "I have no money, but I announce a procurement tender." Interesting and who will lead to this.

If a tender is announced,
Not having a penny
You can get a rating
Good for 5 years
Light mriya replace
People have anxiety
After all, the expectation overcame
Too much

[Mouse]

implementation of the plan should go through 20235

Reform of the Ukrainian Air Force will be carried out in three stages

Apparently three stages are not enough ....

[orionvitt]

Where did the money come from? They are asking the IMF for a pitiful billion, they have already sold the land, but they don’t have any money. . Ukro fleet armed with inflatable scows, in line with the Air Force. It is a pity that inflatable boats do not fly, which means they will put hang gliders into service.

[yfast]

It would be nice to get the F-16 through the Donbass for study. But hard to believe.

[Cyril G ...]

Do you think they didn’t ask in Venezuela? About Iran, I really heard that they got a F-14 radar from there and one Tomket for testing in the 80s .....

[yfast]

There were no computers in the 80s yet. I meant the digital systems of the aircraft.

[Tuzik]

it must not be studied, but put in a museum.

[Mavrikiy]

320 billion hryvnia in 15 years. Part of the funds for this program in Kiev is planned to be received from partner countries and NATO allies.

What's new? For them, the usual scheme. The IMF is preparing to roll today, and NATO tomorrow.

[Sky strike fighter]

They will not be able to throw anyone. Even if they don’t dream, they’ll overthrow them in full, up to buying up all their lands and evicting people from there. Three skins will be removed from them. You will see.

[Well done]

Now they’ll saw billions and buy a pair of used AN-2, but according to the documents it will be F-35. Peremoga!

[Cyril G ...]

I believe the next stage of the re-equipment of the Air Force and Air Defense search in landfills MiG-21 and SAM S-125 and recovery ....

[Well done]

The film is like "Wooden Cannon". This is air defense!

[Ham]

Part of the funds for this program in Kiev is planned to be received from partner countries and NATO allies

as always, someone else should give money ...
Super modern navy I think is already built?
modern jet air forces can not afford any agricultural superpowers ...

[KVU-NSVD]

The plan is good in that it exists and in that the preparatory period with the asking price will last five years .. Five years of prosperity and kickbacks, and after five years of the current aviation and military authorities will no longer be at their posts. So the plan is good.

[Zaurbek]

The best option is the Chinese version of the Yak130 with Ukrainian turbojet engines L-15 ... and used F16 or bu Grippen. But there is an ambush (even if they are given free of charge) infrastructure and ammunition .....

[Insurgent]

Quote: Zaurbek

The best option is the Chinese version of the Yak130 with Ukrainian turbojet engines L-15 ... and used F16 or bu Grippen. But there is an ambush (even if they are given free of charge) infrastructure and ammunition .....

The best option is to learn how to measure Wishlist with capabilities.

After all, even at a primitive, consumer-everyday level,normal people , evaluate their ability to own a particular thing, with the ability to contain it (for example, a car).

But here, as you know, the case when the law is not written to fools ...

[tihonmarine]

It is planned to spend about 200 billion UAH ($ 7,5 billion) on the purchase of new multi-functional fighters, while it is planned to allocate about 320 billion hryvnias for 15 years to retool the Air Force. Part of the funds for this program in Kiev is planned to be received from partner countries and NATO allies.

All this could be produced at Antonov's factories, and much cheaper. And everything imported depends on the factories of suppliers, and maintenance, and spare parts, and weapons, and this is bondage. But everything has been lost for a long time. And there is no money for the purchase of fighters either, they hope for "NATO allies." But Ukraine is not a member of NATO, and it has no allies, and who will lend money to a beggar, not to mention that there are those who will give money for free. Yes, and it is dangerous for NOTO to give a fighter into the hands of the ragul, it can come out "more expensive".

[hwostatij]

And do you know many Antonov fighters?

[Aviator_]

Well, the Sukhoi Design Bureau (by organizing the GSS) made a Superbudget passenger plane, why shouldn't Antonov try to make a fighter?

[Tuzik]

to buy airplanes is only half the trouble, you need to change the entire infrastructure, ammunition, maintenance equipment, retrain pilots, staff .... a bunch of everything, even fuel.
And the price of flight hours at f 16 is not small.

[Vasyan1971]

Part of the funds for this program in Kiev is planned to be received from partner countries and NATO allies.

Now let them get richer with a thought.

[BYCHARA]

In Kiev, voiced the plan

Remember my word, the State Department with Israel they palm off Fu -35 defective, but flying so far .. Here will be a rethink! It will fly over Kiev on torchlight processions .. well, and a couple of times from afar it will fire at the villages of Donbass ..
Or maybe Poland will palm them a couple of these, and then the slaves will work on the fields of strawberries and pig farms))))

[Zaurbek]

Most likely they will follow the path of "brothers" ..

[Piramidon]

Part of the funds for this program in Kiev is planned to be received from partner countries and NATO Allies.

Apparently with this self-isolation, I missed something. Shumeria already joined NATO, or what? Or, once again, in shit?

[Terenin]

Quote: Piramidon

Part of the funds for this program in Kiev is planned to be received from partner countries and NATO Allies.

Apparently with this self-isolation, I missed something. Shumeria already joined NATO, or what? Or, once again, in shit?

I want to join NATO, even through ... shit

[BYCHARA]

Quote: Terenin

I want to join NATO, even through ... shit

And get into the shit!

And here's another ..)))

[/ Center]
It’s disgusting for me to post these photos, but I have to .. so they don’t say later ..
What about us?

[Yury Siritsky]

I wonder where they will get the money or they will shed some old stuff as unnecessary.

[iouris]

Quote: Yuri Siritsky

I wonder where they get the money

Ask where Georgia under Saakashvili took money in an amount commensurate with the state budget to organize "080808". It was already clear from the size of Georgia's military budget that a military operation (war) was inevitable. However, the Russian Federation was "not ready" for war. Even the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation (as they say with evil tongues) was allegedly not immediately found.

[Zaurbek]

In Georgia, the police and the state apparatus are financed from the United States ... the army - I don’t know.

[Aviator_]

Even the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation (as evil tongues say) was allegedly not immediately found.

And it’s good that not immediately, otherwise they would have lost with such a minister.

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

Well, finally .... And then all the walls and walls, with strongholds))) A new generation - new eggs)))

[Sergei 777]

Ukraine has a huge budget deficit. With such fin indicators, they will not be able to allocate significant amounts for the purchase of new aircraft.
Remember the program of the Ukrainian corvette? 9 year build, 40% readiness. But a corvette is much cheaper than a squadron of fighters (a corvette of $ 250 million and 12 fighters from $ 600 million)
So the most real thing is the purchase of used aircraft from some sort of Belgium. Although this will not solve the problem.
Yes, and not the fact that they will sell. Indeed, in the event of any instability, any pilot can fly to Russia.

[Doctor]

According to the plan, by 2035 the Ukrainian Air Force should have: at least 4 tactical aviation brigades,

And that in the West the Air Force is also organized into brigades? And what structure, who will say?

[Cat]

There are brigades, but the direct owners have squadrons, groups and wings. The wing at the airbase with all appendicitis (grouping) approximately corresponds to the brigade.
But by American standards, the squadron includes 3 squadrons with an average of 20 aircraft each, where the Ukrlufs are going to collect equipment for 4 brigades - I don’t know

[mark1]

I think they will be given everything and paid for everything. Ukraine plays too important a role in the confrontation between the USA (namely, it and not the whole West) and Russia. Soon it may become no laughing matter if we giggle like that

[Looking for]

Unfortunately, your vision of the problem is not popular here. -Happiness and boastfulness reign here. Although Russia has nothing to be proud of now. Even in Ukraine, Bandera say “Russia is not the USSR. And the Russian army is not the Red Army.” Imagine if the roguly understand this. then the world understood this for a long time. And in the Russian Federation everyone continues to sing "If tomorrow is war .."

[7,62x54]

Rather, the Selyuks will join NATO and let American bases go.

[TermNachTer]

And who will take them there? The geyrope already understood who they contacted.

[Alex Justice]

What they’ll come up with is only to bring the bases closer to Russia.

[TermNachTer]

Rzhu nimagu))) there is no money to maintain the flight condition of what is. And they are going to buy new)))

[Pavel73]

Lord, what did these former Russian people turn into ... Ukraine is the shame of Russia.

[Keyser soze]

It will not work for Ukrainians. First they need a working economy. Otherwise, they will not be able to buy anything. Western fighters are a new and different infrastructure, training, ammunition, radars, interaction and control systems, etc. And the fighters themselves are no more than half the total.

[Pvi1206]

dreaming is not bad ... here they are ... the fruits of true independence ...

[toha124]

In terms of error they have. The first point is to send a group of senior officers of the Povitryanіkh forces for a one-year internship in India! No, of course, our globe neighbors are able to agree on the amount of gratitude to the supplier. And they even reached certain heights in this difficult matter. But to do it so beautifully, unpredictably, with songs and dances, only specialists from New Delhi can.

[toha124]

It all depends on what plans for Ukraine by this time will be overseas. If there are no special plans, then their Air Force will be reduced to a mixed air brigade as part of the ground forces.

[Phoenix]

If it relies on US money, it would be more accurate to assume that they will not be given money, but NATO patrols will be launched, as in the Baltic states. So much cheaper. And drones can get.

[Egoza]

I have only one question: "Will Ukraine still exist in 15 years?"

[Looking for]

You are talking about a country or a regime.

[V.I.P.]

There will be ... ... ...... They promised that 2016 will not survive because of the winter and lack of money .... 2020. Everything is fine with them. Gazprom seized the money, extended the transit with Gazprom for 5 years and will again prolong it))) ... .. they killed all the media commanders of the militia, killed the head of the DPR, Zakharchenko, dragged the old anti-aircraft defense officer from the republic across the border, they bought javelins))) ....

[Radius]

Buying airplanes is half the battle. They need to be maintained, maintained, repaired. And it costs as much evergreen ...

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

It is planned to supply from 8 to 12 multi-purpose aircraft per year.

According to the plan, by 2035 the Ukrainian Air Force should have: at least 4 tactical aviation brigades armed with a modern unified multi-purpose fighter of the 4 ++ generation; at least 4 brigades (regiments) of strike and reconnaissance drones; transport and special aviation brigade; training aviation brigade.

Part of the funds for this program in Kiev is planned to be received from partner countries and NATO allies.

Lip no fool ))). Let’s look at how much they will really master. And there you look, someone will take and maybe to Russia F-16 and even overtake))).

[kit88]

I don’t know what they mean by "brigade", let alone 4 "brigades", but for $ 7,5 billion they will, at best, equip one regiment with F-16 Block 70/72.
/ this does not include the shrinkage and shaking of the allocated money on the way from the Ministry of Finance to the seller of aircraft /

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

You are from aviation, tell us about the structure and number of units at us and at them.

We have a regiment as far as I understand 3 squadrons of 12 aircraft, and then how?

Judging by the contract with Bulgaria, one F-16 block 70 will cost $ 150 million all with everything.

Total 7,5 will be able to buy 50 fighters, it will be about the same as in Poland.

[kit88]

The Bulgarians got 157 million, and the Slovaks already 207 million. And these are all NATO members.
It is unlikely that a non-member country will be sold cheaper. Total not more than 35 pieces - just a full regiment typed.

And we have a regiment; then either a division or a corps; then the army.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

And we have a regiment; then either a division or a corps; then the army.

And how many planes are in such units?

[kit88]

You understand that this is not units, but units, formations and associations.
Nobody will tell you the exact numbers.
This is for you to contact the Air Force headquarters.
In our regiment at different times there were from 30 to 50 boards, taking into account the "firewood". The regiment was part of the corps, which at various times had a 3-2-1 IAP (reforms, however). The corps was part of the Army ... well, etc.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Yes, I have enough and approximate, just to navigate.

[Eug]

I suspect that Ukrainian development based on the Chinese L-15 will also be featured, but whether they will manage to bring it to mass production and how it will be treated across the ocean is a question.

[Ovsigovets]

Ukraine’s military budget for 2020 TOTAL 246 billion hryvnias, of which 17 billion hryvnias (NOT DOLLARS) are planned for the purchase and development of novya ... and I’m not looking any deeper for how much on the Air Force .... i.e. at the moment 635 million dollars .... we think further ... Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen - 48 million dollars .... F-16 Block 70/72 - 50 million dollars ... and it's bare airplanes ... without infrastructure, without training and without power supply ..... 6 pieces (2020-2021) + 8 pcs. X 5 years (until 2030) + well, and let another 8 pcs. X 5 years (until 2035) = 86 units for 15 years or $ 4,1 billion for 15 years only on bare planes ... but in fact Brazil bought 36 Saab JAS-39E / F Gripen for $ 5,4 billion. ....those. 86 aircraft = 12,9 billion dollars. DELIM for 15 = 860 million dollars. ANNUALLY from 635 million which ALL have ALL ALL new weapons and R&D ..... and this is the minimum of their plans .... let's calculate the maximum of 6 pieces. (until 2025) + 12 pcs X 5 years (until 2030) + 12 pcs X 5 years (until 2035) = 126 years = 18,9 billion dollars / 15 years = 1,26 billion dollars a year ..... ..M-MATHEMATICS - Queen of Sciences

[iouris]

Now "higher mathematics". Brazil does not border on the Russian Federation. All of the listed obsolete "non-lethal equipment" can be delivered very quickly and formally on credit. Further, the loan will need to be repaid by organizing a major military operation. They don't need to capture up to Vladivostok. In Moscow they will pretend that all this is nonsense. But if this nonsense completely destabilizes the situation around and inside, then this is not nonsense. Efforts should be made to dismiss Ukraine as a factor. Unless, of course, there are other plans.

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: mark1

I think they will be given everything and paid for everything. Ukraine plays too important a role in the confrontation between the USA (namely, it and not the whole West) and Russia. Soon it may become no laughing matter if we giggle like that

already for SIX years they have been playing a very important role ... and notice during the most active "request" for help ... SIX years CARL ... and now voice what and how much they were sold or given significantly and really serious ??? I agree with you that we need to prepare for the worst ... but even in the most difficult moments, THE WEST GIVEN NOTHING ... only a sale, only a business

[mark1]

They will give ... The role of Ukraine is a territory for a springboard and a thorn that constantly torments Russia. For a constant "painful" effect, a modern air regiment (better than 3) and a certain number of used frigates are quite enough. And then "dementia and courage" and "support" of the "entire" world community. There will be a lot of stench and hemorrhoids ... and so on all the time.

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: iouris

Now "higher mathematics". Brazil does not border on the Russian Federation. All of the listed obsolete "non-lethal equipment" can be delivered very quickly and formally on credit. Further, the loan will need to be repaid by organizing a major military operation. They don't need to capture up to Vladivostok. In Moscow they will pretend that all this is nonsense. But if this nonsense completely destabilizes the situation around and inside, then this is not nonsense. Efforts should be made to dismiss Ukraine as a factor. Unless, of course, there are other plans.

"
"I can drown an aircraft carrier ... theoretically" (C) ... war is primarily about the economy .... the money invested MUST fight back - a maximum of 126 aircraft instead of EVERYTHING that is now .... I'm certainly a patriot, BUT not .... the math is still the same .... 126 planes in total, they of course will unleash the war and win ... and return the DEBT .... I refuse to "rave crap" with you in parallel ... BUT it is necessary to prepare and keep the powder dry regardless of whether Ukraine is there or not

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: iouris

Now "higher mathematics". Brazil does not border on the Russian Federation. All of the listed obsolete "non-lethal equipment" can be delivered very quickly and formally on credit. Further, the loan will need to be repaid by organizing a major military operation. They don't need to capture up to Vladivostok. In Moscow they will pretend that all this is nonsense. But if this nonsense completely destabilizes the situation around and inside, then this is not nonsense. Efforts should be made to dismiss Ukraine as a factor. Unless, of course, there are other plans.

and by the way it is QUICKly voiced - until 2035 .....

[Andrew Zhukov]

NATO partners will add used F-16s. Payment for their repair / modernization at the expense of US "aid" (by analogy with Island boats)

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Andrey Zhukov

NATO partners will add used F-16s. Payment for their repair / modernization at the expense of US "aid" (by analogy with Island boats)

the freshest "Island" is 28 years old .... do you imagine airplanes that are 28 years old ???)))) change of sewn for soap

[Andrew Zhukov]

Quote: Ovsigovets

change sewed on soap

after repair and modernization, it’s quite an efficient option. And the transition to NATO standards again
Yes, and almost for free ...
In Iran, over F-15s fly for 50 years and are still in service

[Lord of the Sith]

I wonder who will sell the serious equipment to the monkeys, if at all.
Poland, of course, can still sell old Soviet planes))

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

(until 2035) must complete the re-equipment of the Air Force of the Armed Forces. By this year, all obsolete equipment should be withdrawn from the Air Force.

Ingenious. You wait until the equipment itself falls apart, and you say that it’s all according to your plan.

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

I don’t care about their Air Force, I didn’t hear something in our zombies, 21.05.20/XNUMX/XNUMX. Major General S.M. Kramarenko, the hero of the Soviet Union, died. This was the last pilot character who received the title of Hero of the Soviet Union for participating in the war in Korea.

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: mark1

They will give ... The role of Ukraine is a territory for a springboard and a thorn that constantly torments Russia. For a constant "painful" effect, a modern air regiment (better than 3) and a certain number of used frigates are quite enough. And then "dementia and courage" and "support" of the "entire" world community. There will be a lot of stench and hemorrhoids ... and so on all the time.

Once again ... SIX long years of war with the aggressor and the universal stench of "the entire civilized mira" and that in fact they gave it ???? There will be a lot of stench and hemorrhoids, BUT only in words. Any attempt to influence with the help of 3 air regiments and second-hand frigates may end in the loss of the state. There was already an experience of "killing the Russians a little bit" in Georgia ..... Dimka's iPhone cooked up only bits of scraps ... 126 planes instead of everything that is right now for 15 years is not that little, but it is Little

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: mark1

They will give ... The role of Ukraine is a territory for a springboard and a thorn that constantly torments Russia. For a constant "painful" effect, a modern air regiment (better than 3) and a certain number of used frigates are quite enough. And then "dementia and courage" and "support" of the "entire" world community. There will be a lot of stench and hemorrhoids ... and so on all the time.

and the next scenario - in 15 years they will have 126 4 ++ level combat aircraft ... what is now in the Russian Air Force out of 4 ++: SU-35 (90 pcs.) SU-27 (101 pcs.) SU-30 ( 111 pieces) MIG-29 (114 pieces) MiG-30 (90 pieces) FIGHTERS - 506 pieces .... SU-34 (122 pieces) SU-24 (168 pieces) SU-25 (194 pieces) FRONT - 484 pieces

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Andrey Zhukov

Quote: Ovsigovets

change sewed on soap

after repair and modernization, it’s quite an efficient option. And the transition to NATO standards again
Yes, and almost for free ...
In Iran, over F-15s fly for 50 years and are still in service

is free???? are you serious))))))) and many have already given away for free ??? ... once again - for 15 years a maximum of 126 aircraft - and I didn’t say that - they said that ... and the aircraft are normal .....

[Andrew Zhukov]

no matter how many planes - it’s important to switch to NATO standards. get away from shovels.
about free - yes, ALMOST free.
Have you heard about American military assistance? javelins there etc.
even if it will be necessary to pay extra - in any case it will be a multiple of less than new to buy

[tagil]

According to the portal defense-ua.com, the implementation of the plan should go through 2035.

And the territory on which Ukraine is located by then will still be Ukraine. A moot point.

[lvov_aleksey]

they will get what they want. Navy also corresponds to reality))))

[camo ridges]

Dreamy idiocy will never leave these
amazing inhabitants of a blessed country.
The main thing is to proclaim and think that all this
will come true. And inflate from your own significance.
And rely on Western partners who
for all the post-maiden years, in fact, not a damn thing for them
did not and are not going to do. But hardly
sad reality is able to reason
these broad lads - they will wag their tails
in front of their owners and hope for handouts ...

[Andrew Zhukov]

Quote: Ovsigovets

Quote: Andrey Zhukov

Quote: Ovsigovets

change sewed on soap

after repair and modernization, it’s quite an efficient option. And the transition to NATO standards again
Yes, and almost for free ...
In Iran, over F-15s fly for 50 years and are still in service

is free???? are you serious))))))) and many have already given away for free ??? ... once again - for 15 years a maximum of 126 aircraft - and I didn’t say that - they said that ... and the aircraft are normal .....

no matter how many planes - it’s important to switch to NATO standards. get away from shovels.
about free - yes, ALMOST free.
Have you heard about American military assistance? javelins there etc.
even if it will be necessary to pay extra - in any case it will be a multiple of less than new to buy!

[nnz226]

V.S. Vysotsky formulated the main question for the implementation of these plans: "Where is the money, Zin ?!"

[Radical]

Quote: mark1

I think they will be given everything and paid for everything. Ukraine plays too important a role in the confrontation between the USA (namely, it and not the whole West) and Russia. Soon it may become no laughing matter if we giggle like that

Absolutely right. In the 20th century, the industrial and financial circles of the West “gave birth” to Hitler for a campaign against the USSR; in the 21st, according to their plans, Ukraine should carry out this task.

[Viktor Sergeev]

Funny. On Po2, purchased at the price of F16, more likely.

[HMR333]

The article about the fighter and the picture from the attack aircraft is brilliant!

[vkd.dvk]

For such a militarily powerful country like Ukraine, it needs strong aviation, consisting of 1,5-2 thousand units. At a procurement rate of 8-12 pieces per year, it will take more than a hundred years of evolution. During this time, the first purchased airplanes will turn into dust, and the process threatens to become endless. Some more effective measures are needed.

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Andrey Zhukov

no matter how many planes - it’s important to switch to NATO standards. get away from shovels.
about free - yes, ALMOST free.
Have you heard about American military assistance? javelins there etc.
even if it will be necessary to pay extra - in any case it will be a multiple of less than new to buy

remember the help is free of charge, but the fact that it is a product for money and this is not help...except for javelins there is nothing to remember...once again - SIX years have passed of “uncompromising battles with the aggressor”......IIIIII??? ? once again voice the scale of assistance.....I can look into the Lend-Lease supplies and throw out data from there for comparison....it is ALWAYS cheaper to produce yourself......buying someone else’s is always more expensive......buying old will eventually become even more expensive.....an article about airplanes and not about cognac, which only gets better with age. 30 year old aircraft will not be better than new ones (airplanes of the same type) - this is just experience in using weapons and military equipment.....such is physics......NATO standards)))))) to begin with, you should at least have a rifleman in the entire army in caliber translate NATO...otherwise scratching your tongue is not a NATO standard to introduce in fact....and in this matter - SIX years have passed))) what fucking standards have they reached????

[Ovsigovets]

no matter how many aircraft it is, it is important to switch to NATO standards.

important...here it is VERY important))))) at the present time it is very important to have air superiority)))) or will you now sell me a story about an American partner who dreams of dying for Ukraine????? The problems of the Negro Sheriff don't matter - so it was, is and will be. You will only have an army that you are able to pay for yourself

[Revolver]

Quote: Ovsigovets

Negro Sheriff's problems are getting fucked

Wow, how politically incorrect you are! Not a Negro, but an African American. And that’s true, no tr... ok, they don't.

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Radikal

Quote: mark1

I think they will be given everything and paid for everything. Ukraine plays too important a role in the confrontation between the USA (namely, it and not the whole West) and Russia. Soon it may become no laughing matter if we giggle like that

Absolutely right. In the 20th century, the industrial and financial circles of the West “gave birth” to Hitler for a campaign against the USSR; in the 21st, according to their plans, Ukraine should carry out this task.

mmmmmmmmmmm.....I don’t like to “throw hats”, but they are betting on the wrong ones in the 21st century...this is not the Wehrmacht, these are not the Germans

[Guards turn]

In Lvov, fighter jets arriving for repairs were “Ukrainized”
.
The MiG-18.02.2020, tail number 1, arrived on 29/26/2960725860 for repair and modernization into the MU30 version at the Lvov State Aviation Repair Plant. number 1988, issued on December 40, 1789, from 27 BrTA (military unit AXNUMX, Vasilkov air station) already on February XNUMX of this year. turned out to be dismantled and lost its system control units.
.
The next day, February 27, similar looting was discovered on four more MiG-29 fighters, which had been in storage since 2013 in military unit A2602 (Lviv air station) from the 114th BrTA (military unit A1349, Ivano-Frankivsk air force) , including:
.
- tail number 08, manager number 2960721909;
- tail number 37, manager number 2960721840;
- tail number 41, manager. number 2960707758.

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Guards turn

In Lvov, fighter jets arriving for repairs were “Ukrainized”
.
The MiG-18.02.2020, tail number 1, arrived on 29/26/2960725860 for repair and modernization into the MU30 version at the Lvov State Aviation Repair Plant. number 1988, issued on December 40, 1789, from 27 BrTA (military unit AXNUMX, Vasilkov air station) already on February XNUMX of this year. turned out to be dismantled and lost its system control units.
.
The next day, February 27, similar looting was discovered on four more MiG-29 fighters, which had been in storage since 2013 in military unit A2602 (Lviv air station) from the 114th BrTA (military unit A1349, Ivano-Frankivsk air force) , including:
.
- tail number 08, manager number 2960721909;
- tail number 37, manager number 2960721840;
- tail number 41, manager. number 2960707758.

as the comrade wrote above, they are doing the most important thing... they are switching to NATO standards... this is a feasible contribution of Lviv residents

[Revolver]

Besides this shirt, Zin,
You put on - one shame.
Arshin will go to you for sewing -
Where's the money, Zin?..
©Vladimir Vysotsky

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Nagan

Quote: Ovsigovets

Negro Sheriff's problems are getting fucked

Wow, how politically incorrect you are! Not a Negro, but an African American. And that’s true, no tr... ok, they don't.

OKAY.....the white nigga's problems don't fuck the African American SHERIFF...is that normal???