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Lukashenko outraged by Russia's refusal to conduct joint development of a rocket for MLRS

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Lukashenko outraged by Russia's refusal to conduct joint development of a rocket for MLRS

Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko was outraged by Russia's refusal to conduct joint development of missile weapons and to provide a Russian testing ground for Belarusian missile tests. This was reported by the press service of the head of state.


It was reported that on Friday Lukashenko visited the Belarusian weapons developer OKB TSP, where he was informed that Russia does not provide its military training grounds for testing the Belarusian missile. What Lukashenko reacted in a sharp form.

No need to kneel before the Russians. This is a signal if our closest ally not only does not agree to make a rocket with us, but does not provide a training ground ... (...)

- he said.

The Belarusian leader demanded that domestic gunsmiths continue to develop missiles with a destruction range of up to 300 km. At the same time, he noted that China provided significant assistance in the creation of rockets MLRS "Polonaise" of Belarus.

We need our own rocket. We cannot create weaponby which we will depend on other countries. Nobody will just give us this weapon. We were lucky to come to an agreement with the Chinese, they need to bow for it. But beyond this dependence should not be

- said Lukashenko.

Earlier, the State Committee on Military Industry of Belarus stated that there are no military training ranges in the republic at which live firing with a range of 300 km or more is possible.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 22 May 2020 17: 23 New
    -8
    Lukashenko outraged by Russia's refusal to conduct joint development of a rocket for MLRS
    Friendship, friendship, and tobaccos apart, with a huckster. repeatToday we, tomorrow China, and there the USA .....
    there are no military training grounds in the republic where combat firing with a range of 300 km or more is possible.
    Ok, contractor and go ....
    1. Uncle Izya
      Uncle Izya 22 May 2020 17: 35 New
      11
      And tomorrow he will ask the Volga radar station and the connection in Vileyka for the exit, and then what?
      1. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter 22 May 2020 17: 37 New
        +2
        Quote: Uncle Izya
        And tomorrow he will ask the Volga radar station and the connection in Vileyka for the exit, and then what?

        There has already been talk that we don’t really need bases in Belarus. Why would this be? request recourse
        The possible closure of two military facilities in Belarus, working in the interests of Russia, in the event official Minsk refuses to extend their work amid cooling relations with Moscow, will not fundamentally affect Russia's defense capability.


        “The communication center is not the only one. They are very effective for communication with submarines. That is, the loss of the Belarusian is not a tragedy. The radar there is good, overseas. But now everyone is blocking the new radars that Russia produces in series. They are prefabricated and much cheaper.

        They are already located in Leningrad and in the Kaliningrad region. We experienced this in Ukraine during the time of Yanukovych, when our radars were disassembled, stolen, and stolen. Now another concept has been adopted, ”said Suzdaltsev.

        We also recall that the ultra-long-range radio station in Vileyka is used to provide communications in the North Atlantic and the North Sea, to communicate with deeply submerged submarines and surface ships, and to transmit combat control signals for the use of forces and means.

        The missile launch early warning station (Separate Radio Engineering Center, ORTU) in the town of Gantsevichi (Brest Region) performs the tasks of detecting ballistic missiles, space objects and controlling the patrol areas of NATO submarines in the North Atlantic and the Norwegian Sea.

        The fate of the facilities is used by Minsk for bidding with Moscow, previously stated reserve colonel Vladimir Trukhan, a member of the working group on the creation of the Russian regional group of troops (forces) in Belarus

        “Conversations are ongoing. In Belarus, the theme is now accelerating: we do not need a Russian military presence. Like, “if anything, they’ll hit us,” Trukhan said.

        https://m.politnavigator.net/opyt-ukrainy-uchtjon-rossiya-gotova-k-vozmozhnomu-zakrytiyu-voennykh-obektov-v-belorussii.html
        1. Uncle Izya
          Uncle Izya 22 May 2020 19: 05 New
          +3
          C'mon talk talk, and 5000 km of view also missile guidance
    2. avg
      avg 22 May 2020 19: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Lukashenko outraged by Russia's refusal to conduct joint development of a rocket for MLRS

      And why should we work with us to develop something, we have "no mind, no money." request
  2. svp67
    svp67 22 May 2020 17: 24 New
    15
    But in general, has Lukashenko been pleased with Russia lately?
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 22 May 2020 17: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      But in general, has Lukashenko been pleased with Russia lately?

      And in everything, it’s boring ..... American oil sucks, and it’s expensive, an infection. Mood and spoils. On gas graters, multiaxial cars hobbled, and there is no one else to sell and so on. From the Ruins takes an example.
      1. Uncle Izya
        Uncle Izya 22 May 2020 19: 06 New
        -3
        You can’t please, it’s kind of sucks Russian oil, they buy who sells
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 23 May 2020 06: 41 New
          0
          Quote: Uncle Izya
          You can’t please, it’s kind of sucks Russian oil, they buy who sells

          Do not be stupid. Purchases from the United States at a price higher than what we offer.
      2. bald
        bald 23 May 2020 01: 55 New
        0
        I will not correct a lot, sorry, "not recently, since the union."
    2. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 22 May 2020 17: 30 New
      +2
      Yes father for any opportunity clings that would kick the older brother.
      1. AnderS
        AnderS 25 May 2020 19: 31 New
        +1
        Yes father for any opportunity clings that would kick the older brother.

        And what about the "big brother" in this regard?
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 25 May 2020 19: 34 New
          0
          It’s different ... I didn’t do beautiful things with my sister-neighbor ...
    3. Adimius38
      Adimius38 22 May 2020 17: 33 New
      0
      but is there really something to be pleased with))) the whole story with a union state from the very beginning looks like some kind of fight, where one with a club and the other without a club. I do not see any normal allied relations, for any reason, squabbles and often the fault in this in the Russian Federation.
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 22 May 2020 19: 54 New
        +4
        Quote: Adimius38
        but is there something to be satisfied with)))

        Well, for starters, Belarus is the largest debtor of the Russian Federation for loans ....
        The Russian Federation invests by direct investment in the economy of the Republic of Belarus (allocation of a loan for the construction of nuclear power plants), purchases of MZKT products (without the Russian Federation, the said enterprise would share the fate of the same enterprise in Kurgan) .. it purchases including as part of the defense order. other products from the enterprises of the military-industrial complex of the Republic of Belarus ...
        Compared even with the CIS and EAC countries, Belarus has more benefits in the trade market for the provision of services in the Russian Federation, citizens of the Republic of Belarus on the labor market of the Russian Federation have more rights than a citizen of any state ... etc.
        the whole story with a union state from the very beginning looks like some kind of fight, where one with a club and the other without a club.

        Common currency - Old Man wanted to have a printing press for money too ... he was sent with this request to an absurd and no common currency ...
        General migration policy - Old Man one day, without asking the Russian Federation for advice, canceled the visa regime for 80 states .... citizens who can freely cross the Russian border from Belarus, because there is no customs and border guards between Belarus and the Russian Federation ....
        Customs and trade policy - Old Man still claims that oysters and lobsters supplied from Belarus to the Russian Federation are of local origin ... etc. etc.
        I do not see any normal allied relations

        I also....
        often blame for this in the Russian Federation

        For more details, you can ...?
        1. Adimius38
          Adimius38 22 May 2020 20: 02 New
          -8
          don’t need Lalya Thrall, the Russian Federation purchases military-industrial complex products in the Republic of Belarus, because these products are essential for the RF Armed Forces, for the defense industry of the Russian Federation, the list of products is quite large, from optical-electronic base to heavy equipment that Belarusians can do.
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 22 May 2020 20: 47 New
            +3
            Quote: Adimius38
            don’t need Lala Thrall La,

            You are sick, get treated, go to the hospital ....
            The Russian Federation purchases military-industrial complex products in the Republic of Belarus, because these products are essential for the RF Armed Forces, for the defense industry of the Russian Federation, the list of products is quite large, from optical-electronic base to heavy equipment

            I’m saying that apart from the Russian Federation, nobody needs all of the above ... or does the Republic of Belarus give away all of the above for free, as a faithful ally?
            which Belarusians know how to do.

            Until recently, the "ancient Sumerians" also knew how to do a lot ... the need made the Russian Federation do it now ...
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 22 May 2020 21: 00 New
            +1
            Heavy equipment - MZKT will soon be replaced by BAZs and KAMAZs in the Russian Armed Forces.
        2. Soviet Union
          Soviet Union 22 May 2020 21: 47 New
          -5
          Freely cross the border .... bullshit.
          If only they would try ... they require a passport ... Belarusian .. go. and if not .. will find out .. and turn.
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 22 May 2020 22: 55 New
            +3
            I went. And more than once. Nothing of the kind about the requirement for a Belarusian passport. So bullshit
      2. BYCHARA
        BYCHARA 23 May 2020 09: 15 New
        -3
        Quote: Adimius38
        but is there really something to be pleased with))) the whole story with a union state from the very beginning looks like some kind of fight, where one with a club and the other without a club. I do not see any normal allied relations, for any reason, squabbles and often the fault in this in the Russian Federation.

        They wrote correctly and I would like to correct you not to Russia, but to “our media”, every day they publish almost one headline at a time and it is already clear that we are simply being pitched against the Belarusians on purpose .. Lukashenko is certainly not a diplomat and his tongue is sharp .. And quotes from his speeches are pulled out by journalists and persecuted .. hi And here they pick up .. Not casual all this!
      3. ppgt90
        ppgt90 23 May 2020 18: 45 New
        0
        Yes, no one Belarusians pulled anywhere and does not pull. The scream of Lukashenko has not ceased for more than a dozen years. Do not like it, do not go. Who is calling Lukashenko to the Kremlin, to Russia? Yes, no one. Zadolbal with forever outstretched hand. Give it, give it. Pay off your debts and bring down wherever you want. Who needs such allies - beggars? Belarus has not forgotten how much Russia owes?
    4. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 22 May 2020 19: 14 New
      -1
      Quote: svp67
      But in general, has Lukashenko been pleased with Russia lately?

      Recently? The country of Russia, its people or the Russian authorities? And you, you personally, what are you happy with? What good did the Russian government provide you? Is it good that the shells in the yard are not torn?
      But, in general, Lukashenko must be punched. Then already in the world there will not be a single Slavic country where the government will welcome the nullified and self-isolated.
    5. krops777
      krops777 23 May 2020 08: 31 New
      +4
      But in general, has Lukashenko been pleased with Russia lately?


      Especially when he comes to some factory and starts the same song, about how he does not live well with his Russian brother, he is understood with all his heart and they are with all his hopes.
  3. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 22 May 2020 17: 26 New
    0
    Did it really finally happen that an ally could become a competitor?)
    1. Ded_Mazay
      Ded_Mazay 23 May 2020 09: 01 New
      -1
      He will not become a competitor. The scope is not the same. But click on .... - how else.
  4. LAWNER
    LAWNER 22 May 2020 17: 28 New
    -2
    Without even reading, I remembered the Belorussian Polonaise. Wrote and flashed
  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 22 May 2020 17: 30 New
    +6
    For Lukashenko’s Victory Parade held on May 9, of course, thanks again, but you need to firmly decide — Is Russia really an ally, or just a cash cow? ??
    1. alien
      alien 22 May 2020 19: 22 New
      +9
      Quote: Thrifty
      For Lukashenko’s Victory Parade held on May 9, of course, thanks again, but you need to firmly decide — Is Russia really an ally, or just a cash cow? ??

      “Most of us are accustomed to perceiving Belarus as such a reserve of modernized socialism and a bulwark of struggle against the corruptive influence of the West. However it is - ILLUSION.
      <...> A system of continuous brainwashing of the population has been deployed inside Belarus with American money, and the strategic task of all these efforts is the TRANSFORMATION of Belarusians into a screaming Russophobic HERD.


      <…> Well, But Father has his own strategy. By playing the card of an angry and greedy Moscow, firstly, he disclaims responsibility for the growing socio-economic problems in Belarus. After all, now, as in Ukraine, the Russians are to blame for everything ...
      <…> If the Americans enter Bularus in the same way as they entered Ukraine …………………………. "

      Andrew Vajra
      Why Belarus is doomed on 11.05.2020/78/XNUMX. (No. XNUMX)
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 22 May 2020 19: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: Alien
        Quote: Thrifty
        For Lukashenko’s Victory Parade held on May 9, of course, thanks again, but you need to firmly decide — Is Russia really an ally, or just a cash cow? ??

        “Most of us are accustomed to perceiving Belarus as such a reserve of modernized socialism and a bulwark of struggle against the corruptive influence of the West. However it is - ILLUSION.
        <...> A system of continuous brainwashing of the population has been deployed inside Belarus with American money, and the strategic task of all these efforts is the TRANSFORMATION of Belarusians into a screaming Russophobic HERD.


        <…> Well, But Father has his own strategy. By playing the card of an angry and greedy Moscow, firstly, he disclaims responsibility for the growing socio-economic problems in Belarus. After all, now, as in Ukraine, the Russians are to blame for everything ...
        <…> If the Americans enter Bularus in the same way as they entered Ukraine …………………………. "

        Andrew Vajra
        Why Belarus is doomed on 11.05.2020/78/XNUMX. (No. XNUMX)

        I completely agree with you, it can be clearly seen in the video to which you gave a link
        Andrew Vajra
        Why Belarus is doomed on 11.05.2020/78/XNUMX. (No. XNUMX)
        1. alien
          alien 22 May 2020 20: 28 New
          0
          Thanks, corrected the link.
  6. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 22 May 2020 17: 30 New
    +5
    Is that true? What is the problem of helping an ally with polygons? Are there few polygons or are they painted for years to come? Actually grounded outrage this time ..
    1. svp67
      svp67 22 May 2020 17: 36 New
      +5
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      What is the problem of helping an ally with polygons?

      Now? Quarantine problem
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 22 May 2020 17: 39 New
        0
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        What is the problem of helping an ally with polygons?

        Now? Quarantine problem

        I think he would hardly have been indignant if he had simply been asked to wait until the end of the quarantine measures, he was completely refused to see.
        1. svp67
          svp67 22 May 2020 18: 30 New
          +6
          Quote: KVU-NSVD
          I think he would hardly have been indignant if he had simply been asked to wait until the end of the quarantine measures, he was completely refused to see.

          Well, that may be so. But what about questions about the price of gas? While the gas price for Belarus was lower than the pan-European one, he was silent in Germany, but as soon as the price fell there, he immediately spoke about the injustice on the part of Russia. And demanded to lower the price. But why was he silent when their price was lower and did not ask to increase it? So here, I now believe little Lukashenko, he began to play some kind of his game ...
      2. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 22 May 2020 18: 57 New
        +6
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        What is the problem of helping an ally with polygons?

        Now? Quarantine problem

        And at the Belarusian NPP, quarantine does not interfere with the shipment of equipment
        1. svp67
          svp67 22 May 2020 19: 06 New
          +1
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          And at the Belarusian NPP, quarantine does not interfere with the shipment of equipment

          Who knows. in any case, here the claims were to specialists who came from Murmansk, they brought the coronavirus to them ...
      3. Uncle Izya
        Uncle Izya 22 May 2020 19: 09 New
        0
        He had in mind before quarantine, they had been tested in China for a couple of years, but Lukas didn’t worry about Belarusians for his own power. More than Stalin, Brezhnev already grew on the throne with moss
    2. Uncle Izya
      Uncle Izya 22 May 2020 17: 36 New
      0
      In power, the liberals have no profit
    3. K-612-O
      K-612-O 22 May 2020 17: 55 New
      15
      Well, when did they develop this rocket and ran to the Chinese comrades, and now give a training ground for the Chinese rocket? You can also recall kidalovo from the MZKT, we did not sell the plant to us, and all the documentation was leaked to China. And how after this? The Chinese armored cars are driving in the parade, but what did the Tigers not please?
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 22 May 2020 18: 05 New
        -4
        Quote: K-612-O
        Well, when did they develop this rocket and ran to the Chinese comrades, and now give a training ground for the Chinese rocket? You can also recall kidalovo from the MZKT, we did not sell the plant to us, and all the documentation was leaked to China. And how after this? The Chinese armored cars are driving in the parade, but what did the Tigers not please?

        Their factory is their right. Their army is their right. Polonaises are also not aimed at us, and their presence in Belarus is only a plus - we still do not have systems with such characteristics. And extra insults with an ally is a bad path, especially insults due to such trifles
        1. Kathernik
          Kathernik 22 May 2020 18: 20 New
          13
          Our landfill is our right ......
          1. KVU-NSVD
            KVU-NSVD 22 May 2020 18: 25 New
            -1
            It is one thing to independently decide on matters of national importance, it is another thing to refuse an ally in a request that is important to him and unprincipled for us.
        2. KCA
          KCA 22 May 2020 18: 26 New
          11
          Now he will accelerate the Polonaise by 300 km, and will sell it to fraternal Ukraine in the lungs, do we need it? Our landfill is our right, we ourselves rent the landfill in Kazakhstan
          1. KVU-NSVD
            KVU-NSVD 22 May 2020 18: 30 New
            -3
            Quote: KCA
            Now he will accelerate the Polonaise by 300 km, and will sell it to fraternal Ukraine in the lungs, do we need it? Our landfill is our right, we ourselves rent the landfill in Kazakhstan

            We need landfills in Kazakhstan constantly, and not one-time - that's why we keep them in long-term leases. All tired of arguing - to the question of the reasons for the refusal, so no intelligible versions even brought
          2. V.I.P.
            V.I.P. 22 May 2020 18: 44 New
            0
            Ukraine itself can buy from China. Moreover, they have MLRS with a range of 450 km. Anyway, the Chinese have a bunch of MLRS with different ranges. This Belarusians bought 200 km cheaper. Could buy at 350 ..
        3. Antokha
          Antokha 22 May 2020 18: 43 New
          +3
          Their factory is their right. Their army is their right

          Our training ground, our right to refuse to use it. Our industry, its decision to cooperate with Belarusians (who are going to bow to the Chinese now) or not.
        4. K-612-O
          K-612-O 22 May 2020 19: 14 New
          +4
          These little things will be pulled by another hundred million, the costs of preparing and conducting tests at the test site. And about what we don’t have: IskanderM and IskanderK. Since the Polonaise is already an OTRK, and not an MLRS, and the sense of a non-tactical missile with a high probability of being shot down and a relatively small warhead is doubtful.
          And about your own, not ours: do we have an allied state? So then, behind the ally’s back, to sell anything to anyone without getting into it, and not only to China
        5. Non liberoid Russian
          Non liberoid Russian 23 May 2020 04: 01 New
          0
          Their factory is their right. Their army is their right.
          our polygons are our right, more questions, or will you whine further why did you not provide a pseudo-union polygon?
          1. KVU-NSVD
            KVU-NSVD 23 May 2020 09: 10 New
            -1
            Quote: Not Liberoid Russian
            or you will whine further

            You boor, at a meeting for such a tone of teeth would be croaked through Adam's apple.
            1. Non liberoid Russian
              Non liberoid Russian 23 May 2020 15: 33 New
              +1
              well good luck fellow , ass only from the couch lift yes leave the kitchenette
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 22 May 2020 18: 14 New
        +4
        Quote: K-612-O
        Well, when they developed this rocket they ran to the Chinese comrades

        Everything is very simple: then the Belarusians were refused with Iskander and they began to rivet something long-range with the Chinese.
        And it would be okay if they kept their promise, "not a single installation until the complete re-equipment of the RF Armed Forces." The Iskanders of Armenia were staged.
        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 22 May 2020 19: 39 New
          +2
          They didn’t refuse, father refused to post ours, but he didn’t even stutter about purchases. And do not forget that Iskander is still a carrier of nuclear weapons.
      3. Uncle Izya
        Uncle Izya 22 May 2020 19: 03 New
        +1
        There were tigers and their local volatas
      4. Adimius38
        Adimius38 22 May 2020 19: 58 New
        -2
        what slow-witted you are, and the Belarusians ran to the Chinese because the Slavic brother put down bricks, in fact, everything that Belarusians don’t offer is put in wheels. Any offers are met with hostility and with a big creak, resentment and squabble. Of course, it’s easier to deal with the Chinese, you don’t have to crawl and beg for them, and tolerate humiliation. The Chinese have a business approach, they help, finance, of course, have their own benefits in this. For that matter, China is making huge investments in Belarus, this is a huge number of joint projects. On the other hand, oil contracts are concluded with the United States, but this is not much, but a bad bell for the Russian Federation. In this situation, I see no prospects for the development of allied relations and not Belarusians are to blame. God grant that the Russian Federation does not lose Belarus at all as an ally, and this blow will be worse than the loss of Ukraine
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 22 May 2020 20: 15 New
          +5
          He is already 10-12 years old as not a de facto ally. Already, citizens of the Russian Federation were issued upon request to the west ....
        2. Sergey269
          Sergey269 23 May 2020 08: 21 New
          +1
          Lukashenka's offense - FARS! He understands very well that the technology for the production of weapons is much more expensive than the weapons themselves. The joint production of missiles, a priori, implies the transfer of Russian technologies (which are secret, of state importance) to the not always adequate "Brother". And where are the guarantees that in the near future, these technologies will end up in completely "non-brotherly countries"? China delivered missiles to Belarus? Set! Not free, of course ... But, the technology of their production? So Lukashenka is rushing about, and eat the fish and not choke on the bone. Something he is in no hurry to share with us developments for the same MZKT. You can discuss this topic for a long time, but cooperation should be trusting and mutually beneficial. Buy Russian goods, sell yours, just do not speculate with the "brotherhood of peoples"! The old man acts according to the principle - "Promise does not mean to marry", moreover, all the time of his reign. Personally, I have nothing against him, he reminds me of the chairman of the collective farm from the film "Kuban Cossacks". Only now are the times somewhat different.
    4. avg
      avg 22 May 2020 20: 08 New
      +4
      Is that true? What is the problem of helping ally with polygons

      Yes, the ally has a problem, where is he? Aw! Well, at least once, he supported something, but at least he said thanks. It dawned on us that if we hadn’t succeeded, we were already rejoicing. Are you sure that this rocket will not be in the country tomorrow? Me not.
    5. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 22 May 2020 20: 12 New
      +5
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      What is the problem of helping an ally with polygons?

      There is such a book, the Budget Code of the Russian Federation, everything is written there, including and about unplanned expenses ...
      As for an ally ... Belarus does not recognize that Crimea and Sevastopol belong to the Russian Federation, which means it is not an ally, but a "partner" of both the US and the EU ...
      Little polygons

      The main rocket range for testing MLRS and OTRK we have one in general, in the "Kapustin Yar" ...
      Actually grounded outrage this time ..

      What are the reasons for the indignation that the freebies were refused?
      I’ve never heard how much the Russian Federation is from any country in the world, incl. from the CIS countries, I got something for free ... maybe remind ...?
    6. krops777
      krops777 23 May 2020 08: 38 New
      0
      Is that true? What is the problem of helping an ally with polygons?


      Yes, I think there is no problem here, as always sucked out of my finger, although it may just have pulled up this potato dad, how much mud can Russia be washed up with is the answer.
  7. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 22 May 2020 17: 34 New
    +3
    Nobody will just give us this weapon ...
    - said Lukashenko.

    Except Russia. Yeah.
    He said something about this lack of money and brains ...
    https://regnum.ru/news/polit/1952292.html
  8. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 22 May 2020 17: 37 New
    -2
    Recognize the Crimea, get a training ground. Better yet, ask in the EU or the USA
  9. mark2
    mark2 22 May 2020 17: 38 New
    0
    If you give everyone, the bed will fall apart. I'm talking about the landfill
    Why dad rocket? Against whom is he arming himself. Is it not about our soul? Now let him put his Oginsky at one border and launch him in the opposite direction. Dimensions of the country allow. And if they don’t allow it, then all the more so for him there is no need.
    1. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 22 May 2020 17: 45 New
      +6
      Let Chubatky ask for help. Of course, I understand that a politician must be flexible, but not so much about ....... oh, like this chairman of a collective farm. It is nonsense, not thinking about the consequences. Scatters and then licks all the crotch, the one to whom he scammed. Is he sane at all?
  10. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 22 May 2020 17: 44 New
    0
    laughing Old Man in any way with an oak tree collapsed. Pennies hde?
  11. Pug
    Pug 22 May 2020 17: 46 New
    -2
    Well, Old Man, hold on !!! Now you will be laid out ..)))
    Brothers, do not be offended, this is not the opinion of Russians in Russia! ..
    You yourself know who needs this bullying ..
    I don’t know how to protect you from these cries, etc.
    Well, maybe this will help?

    The whole song talks about it .. !!!! Hold on brothers ..
    1. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 22 May 2020 18: 55 New
      0
      You yourself know who needs this bullying ..
      Where did YOU see the "bullying" here? People express their opinions. I am not against the fact that Belarusians are a brotherly people. The people are brotherly, but the authorities choose - clearly NOT brotherly.
  12. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 22 May 2020 17: 47 New
    +1
    They can, let them do it. Then they will calmly trade.
  13. Radius
    Radius 22 May 2020 17: 53 New
    +1
    There is always a chance to use Russian landfills: just hold a referendum in Belarus and become part of the Russian Federation.
    1. Pug
      Pug 22 May 2020 17: 58 New
      -3
      Quote: Radius
      There is always a chance to use Russian landfills: just hold a referendum in Belarus and become part of the Russian Federation.

      If only Lukashenko becomes the head of Russia! ! There were Georgians, Ukrainians. Jews in the 90s and 2000s .. Then I agree!
      I am for such a referendum !!!! And to bring the troops into full combat readiness! Just in case .. soldier
      Old Man is cool with you .. many will start to run right away))))
      The main thing is that they are in the same panties draped .. (sure to check the panties)))
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 22 May 2020 18: 17 New
        +8
        Quote: Pug
        Old Man is cool with you .. many will start to run right away))))

        Daddy, in terms of his level of thinking and behavior, does not pull on a serious political leader. Tongue sweeps like a broom. He throws offensive epithets in our direction for the sake of a catchphrase and "cool" PR. The very level drops down to the collective farm level. We don't need such a head.
        1. Andrei Nikolaevich
          Andrei Nikolaevich 22 May 2020 18: 53 New
          +1
          Daddy, in terms of his level of thinking and behavior, does not pull on a serious political leader. Tongue sweeps like a broom. He throws offensive epithets in our direction for the sake of a catchphrase and "cool" PR. The very level drops down to the collective farm level. We don't need such a head.
          that's for sure.
          1. D16
            D16 22 May 2020 22: 05 New
            +1
            He drops his level to the collective farm. We don’t need such a head.

            Why write the same thing with two nicknames? Post-wage payment? laughing
      2. lelik613
        lelik613 22 May 2020 18: 32 New
        -1
        Lukashenko-Zhirinovsky without a muzzle.
  14. qobnvmog
    qobnvmog 22 May 2020 18: 13 New
    -2
    Not with Russia, so with Ukraine.
  15. demchuk.ig
    demchuk.ig 22 May 2020 18: 16 New
    +4
    Of this "Polonaise", Batkin's only chassis.
  16. Operator
    Operator 22 May 2020 18: 18 New
    -3
    Where a horse with a hoof, there and Rygorych cancer (American litter) with a claw.
  17. Alexfly
    Alexfly 22 May 2020 18: 35 New
    -3
    Well, in vain, trials, trials, but interesting ideas could have been fucked ... Or is it just that everything is the same with us ???
    1. Nicholas
      Nicholas 23 May 2020 22: 34 New
      0
      Chinese missiles are used by Jeepies. Our-Glonass and the system of adjusting and controlling the terrain, though our range is less, though there is an opinion. To shoot for 200 km, you need reliable reconnaissance, otherwise you’ll release the entire BC on rubber targets. So I asked Russian Grygorich system Escander. Says I will keep all the horns at gunpoint. And in the Russian airbase refused, voters will not understand him. if the Russian Air Force will be here. so he was also denied Escanders. Grygorich said they wouldn’t give weapons, we’ll do it ourselves. After 2 years we’ll have an analogue of Iskander. It’s already announced to the whole country that they have fulfilled the order and made the same weapons as in Russia, but admitted that the missiles Chinese 300 mm and hit as much as 450 km, and 2 years ago they tested and they already flew 218 km. He was bowing to the Chinese, and they deceived, so Grygorich wants to bring Polonaise in TTX close to Iskander i.e. at a distance of 450 km and there’s nothing new here. He wants to get out at the expense of someone. It doesn’t work, someone is to blame. They don’t want to give the training ground.
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  19. strelokmira
    strelokmira 22 May 2020 18: 56 New
    +1
    It was reported that on Friday Lukashenko visited the Belarusian weapons developer OKB TSP, where he was informed that Russia does not provide its military training grounds for testing the Belarusian missile. What Lukashenko reacted in a sharp form.

    Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko outraged by Russia's refusal to conduct joint development of missile weapons

    And where in the article about the joint development and development of which missile weapons exactly?
  20. vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 22 May 2020 19: 17 New
    0
    Develop (taking on 90% of the effort and expense), dividing the results in half, when we don’t have such a task .... We need not to deal with blackmail, but coordinate work plans. Do not want to - bow to China.
    1. strelokmira
      strelokmira 22 May 2020 19: 19 New
      0
      what to develop then? )))
  21. Sasha Minakov
    Sasha Minakov 22 May 2020 19: 22 New
    -3
    The mustachioed Russophobe completely flew off the coils. He will not be the second Yanyk. His Belarusians are crucified.
  22. vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 22 May 2020 19: 22 New
    -3
    Quote: AlexFly
    Well, in vain, trials, trials, but interesting ideas could have been fucked ... Or is it just that everything is the same with us ???

    It’s good to borrow ideas from specialists who are much better than you in business. To drag on yourself those who are three steps lower is not equal cooperation. We have glands with similar parameters. And perhaps much more advanced.
    1. Alexfly
      Alexfly 24 May 2020 10: 47 New
      0
      Sometimes, in small things, interesting ideas are hidden or are born ... And just to deny - this is the lot of nihilists, I hope with them not along the way ...
  23. vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 22 May 2020 19: 26 New
    -1
    Quote: mark2
    If you give everyone, the bed will fall apart. I'm talking about the landfill
    Why dad rocket? Against whom is he arming himself. Is it not about our soul? Now let him put his Oginsky at one border and launch him in the opposite direction. Dimensions of the country allow. And if they don’t allow it, then all the more so for him there is no need.

    With our help, make and sell ukram. What is not clear?
  24. vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 22 May 2020 19: 32 New
    -3
    Quote: KVU-NSVD
    Quote: K-612-O
    Well, when did they develop this rocket and ran to the Chinese comrades, and now give a training ground for the Chinese rocket? You can also recall kidalovo from the MZKT, we did not sell the plant to us, and all the documentation was leaked to China. And how after this? The Chinese armored cars are driving in the parade, but what did the Tigers not please?

    Their factory is their right. Their army is their right. Polonaises are also not aimed at us, and their presence in Belarus is only a plus - we still do not have systems with such characteristics. And extra insults with an ally is a bad path, especially insults due to such trifles

    In order not to grind rubbish, you need to know a lot. As I understand it, you do not work in the Foreign Ministry.
  25. vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 22 May 2020 19: 35 New
    -1
    Quote: AzDefence2020
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Friendship, friendship, and tobaccos apart

    What about fraternal bonds? And also say southerners traders.

    Chatting in Berlin at a meeting with Merkel about four years ago (I don’t remember the exact date) that he would strangle Russia with a pipe. Brother, his mother .....
  26. vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 22 May 2020 19: 36 New
    -2
    Quote: strelokmira
    what to develop then? )))

    And the article from the beginning to read, not fate?
  27. sanya
    sanya 22 May 2020 19: 41 New
    0
    Well, then he will sell to Ukraine ...
    It’s not at all clear why Russia needs such allies
  28. yfast
    yfast 22 May 2020 20: 31 New
    0
    China can bow, Russia - no. The dad quickly forgot who supported him when the civilized world spread rot for the opposition. Well, China will definitely support it.
  29. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 22 May 2020 20: 31 New
    0
    Quote: Pug
    Well, Old Man, hold on !!! Now you will be laid out ..)))
    Brothers, do not be offended, this is not the opinion of Russians in Russia! ..
    You yourself know who needs this bullying ..
    I don’t know how to protect you from these cries, etc.
    Well, maybe this will help?

    The whole song talks about it .. !!!! Hold on brothers ..

    Tired already - The developers assured the President that the first prototype of the "XNUMX" should appear by September. For testing this missile, testing grounds are being considered in China, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Saudi Arabia. laughing Again "Mustache Bulbe": "War is not ours"? Sometimes it is embarrassing and unpleasant for his speech. Well, he lives in a parallel reality. Above, its own logic. But with this rocket ... B-s, already too much. what laughing
  30. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 22 May 2020 20: 33 New
    -3
    Judging by the persistence in creating the rocket, the "chief epidemiologist" of Belarus promised this rocket to the Arabs, and may have already received a certain advance. laughingHe’s ready to bow to the Chinese) Bulba in his pocket and let him saw a rocket in his waltz rhythm. Although it’s not very clear - 300 km range - it’s only in all the nearest neighbors and reaches belay
    1. Hermann
      Hermann 22 May 2020 20: 46 New
      +1
      The polonaise, which was tested by shooting in Belarus three hundred years ago three years ago, may now want to experience something more long-range.
      1. Nicholas
        Nicholas 23 May 2020 21: 38 New
        0
        Polonaise shot only 218 km. it was 2 years ago. and Grygorich announced that he was shooting at 450, and it started that Russia didn’t give him the Escandra, he asked, but they didn’t give them. I gave the command that we don’t need the Russians, we’ll do it ourselves. That's all about Polonaise and goes. they do not shoot like Iskander. The Chinese failed or again deceived Grygorich. So he decided at the expense of Russia to increase the range of Polonaise
      2. Nicholas
        Nicholas 23 May 2020 21: 46 New
        0
        of the brand-new one in Belarus, only the Oriole-80 trunks, shoots with aviation NURs. According to some reports, the firing range is 3-4 km, according to others 4-5 km. The range is 6 km and not 70 mm.
  31. Esaul
    Esaul 22 May 2020 20: 50 New
    0
    Let me guess, Old Man asked me to test my rocket for free at our training ground without giving anything in return?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 May 2020 21: 06 New
      +2
      It’s not so much with missiles in general with everything oil gas commodity circulation electricity pothole at the border loans - GIVE GIVE GIVE GIVE We demand a discount that is what it means to be friends with the collective farmer who is the governing state.
  32. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 22 May 2020 21: 01 New
    -3
    Quote: Herman
    The polonaise, which was tested by shooting in Belarus three hundred years ago three years ago, may now want to experience something more long-range.

    Who should be fired at? I don’t already know why Lukashenka has more thrift or foolishness.
  33. vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 22 May 2020 21: 28 New
    0
    Quote: Adimius38
    don’t need Lalya Thrall, the Russian Federation purchases military-industrial complex products in the Republic of Belarus, because these products are essential for the RF Armed Forces, for the defense industry of the Russian Federation, the list of products is quite large, from optical-electronic base to heavy equipment that Belarusians can do.

    Do not breach, since you don’t know.
    In some cases, Belarus is a competitor in the production of automotive and other engineering products. Reseller of Russian oil, bought at half price and supplying ukrofashistov. A crook selling Polish apples at one time. betraying Russia on every corner.
    1. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 22 May 2020 21: 49 New
      -3
      wink
      betraying Russia on every corner


      Not on everyone, but through the corner.
  34. DPN
    DPN 22 May 2020 21: 30 New
    -9
    In general, while Belarus is blocking Moscow from NATO and the United States. And not vice versa.
    1. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 22 May 2020 21: 50 New
      -2
      hi Chago ?????????????????
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 22 May 2020 22: 03 New
        +4
        Quote: Interlocutor
        hi Chago ?????????????????
        hi Well, do not come here You are in the interlocutors winked
        1. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 23 May 2020 15: 08 New
          +2
          Be patient. Once switched to a person, then hurt.
          You here about the barriers stop ..... "Belarus is overshadowing (not even Russia) Moskvu". If an adversary needs it, he will fly around Belarus ... But from stupid rulers, of all stripes, no one will protect Belarus
    2. Gennady Fomkin
      Gennady Fomkin 22 May 2020 22: 07 New
      -2
      Yes, something is true, quite often) something went wrong with this fantasy. laughing
    3. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 23 May 2020 00: 33 New
      0
      funny joke)
    4. Esaul
      Esaul 25 May 2020 09: 12 New
      0
      Yes of course! When the NATO nuclear missiles fly at us, Belarus will knock them all down to one with the help of its top-secret and irresistible missile defense system!
  35. Boris Afinogenov
    Boris Afinogenov 22 May 2020 21: 37 New
    +1
    Guys, yes Lukashenko is the same Yanukovych. But he thinks that, damn it, smarter. But Viktor Fedorovich also thought that he was smart and cunning.

    All these "brothers" are accustomed to the fact that you can have something to fuck with Russia, but just a little, some problem - in the bushes.

    This is not very pleasing, but another pleases: in difficult times, brothers and their people really appear.


    Let them drop out. Only our people will remain.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 22 May 2020 22: 05 New
      +3
      Quote: Boris Afinogenov
      Guys, yes Lukashenko is the same Yanukovych

      By the way, he did not recognize the Crimea as Russian ...
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 23 May 2020 17: 55 New
        0
        Here is such an ally and brother ...
  36. APASUS
    APASUS 22 May 2020 22: 31 New
    0
    Something ours outwitted themselves? You can really be aware of everything that Belarus produces, performance characteristics of missiles, weaknesses and strengths, analysis and even test it
  37. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 22 May 2020 22: 43 New
    -1
    Earlier, Lukashenko wanted to build rockets with Ukraine. Here is what he said to Zelensky:

    This is not because we rattle weapons. We are working a lot on the development of the rocket industry in Belarus. We did not have such a production, but you have it. We are very interested in helping you with this. laughingDid you learn to do Lisapedy? ”But Father has some obsessive thoughts about" cancer "and" on his knees. " Inserts constantly. Gray in the beard, the devil in the rib. laughing How does someone want to sell a bandustan?
  38. vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 22 May 2020 22: 54 New
    -2
    Quote: DPN
    In general, while Belarus is blocking Moscow from NATO and the United States. And not vice versa.

    Himself not funny? Who can go to conquer territories? Through such an unreliable defender. Missiles fly through this patch of land. Old Man inviting NATO to its exercises last year. Demanding to close early warning radars.
    Just in the wake of the Baltic states. Such an ally is not necessary.
  39. Pandiurin
    Pandiurin 23 May 2020 00: 03 New
    -3
    In vain Lukashenko, again hysteria.
    MLRS, judging by the article, Lukashenko is Chinese.
    Perhaps it was the Chinese part of the rocket that was not allowed to go to the training ground, and since it is not possible to divide, there is no tolerance in general.
    Again, there is no trust in Lukashenko’s words, maybe there’s a completely different situation there, or in general everything was expelled from a finger.
  40. bald
    bald 23 May 2020 01: 31 New
    0
    Voenka, and you on which side ?! I will say frankly - you sold out.
    1. bald
      bald 23 May 2020 01: 42 New
      0
      into three Soviet letters.
      1. bald
        bald 23 May 2020 01: 44 New
        0
        And you will have to answer, at the highest, and mom will not help.
        1. bald
          bald 23 May 2020 02: 31 New
          0
          We are called sofas !!!, crap, but here on the military commissar there were people who changed tracks in the mud, in Afghanistan, in Chechnya, etc. and we will participate and at any moment we’ll go.
          1. al.cozeev
            al.cozeev 24 May 2020 13: 29 New
            0
            In addition to Chechnya, there were Angola, Yugoslavia, Transnistria, Dagestan, Syria, and many have been to Libya, Laos, Nagorno-Karabakh, an operation to force Georgia to peace. We just keep silent about it, since it is not customary to talk about it and write about it. And if I wrote a few words about it, then you are criticized and insulted for it. How many new things have I learned about myself since 2017. Here is the little that they write and say to me. "" Assassin "," "" Mercenary "", "" So that you die "", "" And who asked the CHUROK to save you in Beslan "," ", instead of living and having fun, it risks his life following orders" "," "Why weren't you killed there? I would only be glad of this "". And this is just a fraction of what I have been facing in civilian life over the past three and a half years.
  41. tolancop
    tolancop 23 May 2020 01: 32 New
    -1
    They did the right thing, that they refused ... Something was refused to the closest ally in the deployment of an airbase, and now "... and we are for sho? ...". And with whom is Lukashenka going to fight with operational-tactical missiles? And where does he have those that are? And how Ukraine supplies weapons - silence.
    T.ch. our ally is clearly rotten and with his own hands to strengthen his military capabilities is utter stupidity.
    Interrupted.
  42. tolancop
    tolancop 23 May 2020 01: 38 New
    -1
    Quote: Spade
    ..... Just asked for a testing ground. Weapons for your own army. They do not have their own at such ranges. And one prominent Russian military leader and leader decided to petty them finely. Resentments gnaw him .... And he puts these insults above the interests of Russia ...

    What is the interest of Russia in the appearance of a poorly predictable neighbor of its own operational tactical missiles?
    Besides with OUR help? Do not explain?
  43. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 23 May 2020 03: 33 New
    -1
    Poor ... poor Belarus, shot through and through! And she still "rock the boat"! Is it worth it? Will it last long? After all, if the "powerful of this world" really want to, then the country, in the end, will have "their bin capitulatory" ...! And it is possible that this will be on the terms of unconditional surrender! Wouldn't it be better if Belarus "on its own, on its own ..." decides that it is time "now and voluntarily", to stick with, to a stronger and greater side than it ... ?!
  44. mmaxx
    mmaxx 23 May 2020 04: 53 New
    0
    When should Russian Belarusians brothers. And when Belarusians should, we are an independent country. All logic Lukashenko.
    Now we will help the Old Man with missiles. And then he will sell them to Ukraine and so on and so forth.
  45. 1536
    1536 23 May 2020 07: 09 New
    0
    Why resent? It's just that Russia doesn't need a "Belarusian rocket". Or we should gladly climb hugging that this comrade. from Belarus finally offered something in terms of cooperation in the industrial field? I think there are no problems with the tests at the Russian proving ground. But the entrance is paid. Perhaps this is just another provocation in the hope of rejection. Will the next call with a proposal to produce a "joint rocket" be in Warsaw? There they will understand, accept, feed and heat a new missile, so long as it is directed against the Russians.
  46. Sergey269
    Sergey269 23 May 2020 07: 23 New
    +1
    Lukashenka's offense - FARS! He understands very well that the technology for the production of weapons is much more expensive than the weapons themselves. The joint production of missiles, a priori, implies the transfer of Russian technologies (which are secret, of state importance) to the not always adequate "Brother". And where are the guarantees that in the near future, these technologies will end up in completely "non-brotherly countries"? China delivered missiles to Belarus? Set! Not free, of course ... But, the technology of their production? So Lukashenka is rushing about, and eat the fish and not choke on the bone. Something he is in no hurry to share with us developments for the same MZKT. You can discuss this topic for a long time, but cooperation should be trusting and mutually beneficial. Buy Russian goods, sell yours, just do not speculate with the "brotherhood of peoples"! The old man acts according to the principle - "Promise does not mean to marry", moreover, all the time of his reign. Personally, I have nothing against him, he reminds me of the chairman of a collective farm from the film "Kuban Cossacks". Only now are the times somewhat different ...
    1. Enemy
      Enemy 23 May 2020 09: 01 New
      -1
      So Russia is creating Platform-O, and obsolete MWCs will transport Byalorussian potatoes to Europe)))
  47. Rusticolus
    Rusticolus 23 May 2020 08: 15 New
    +2
    It seems Old Man again wanted everything for free for free. Show everything, give it all, feed it a drink, bring it back ... And then such a bummer. Ah ah ah what a bad Russia. Missiles (for free) does not teach to do. Using their landfills (for no reason) does not. That is how his thoughts should be read.
  48. Enemy
    Enemy 23 May 2020 08: 59 New
    0
    Russia has done everything right! You can’t have anything to do with the unaddressed.
    Remember how Lukashenko was indignant at the export-made fighters received.
    Of course, if they were in Russian, they would have sold it to Americans, like the S-300 for study
  49. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 23 May 2020 09: 38 New
    0
    This is how North Korea would like to test missiles in the United States or vice versa :)
  50. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 23 May 2020 09: 46 New
    -2
    The leader of the Indian tribe gathered in the jungle:
    - INDIANS !!! Are we a great people?
    - DAAAAAA!
    “Then why don't we have a nuclear missile?”
    - Well ... Let's build.
    They cut down the healthiest sequoia, hollowed out the core with axes, prepared gunpowder according to old Spanish recipes, hammered it, nailed a cork, brought an awesome rope to the wick.
    - Where will we launch it?
    - Let's go to Yerevan!
    - And why to Yerevan?
    - I don’t know others ...
    They wrote "To Yerevan" on a rocket, piled up the whole tribe, set fire to the rope-fuse ... LIKE TOUGH! ... In short, the local Armageddon: smoke, fumes, everyone is lying around ... The leader without a leg, without an arm, looks around:
    - Nyha ... I can imagine what is happening in Yerevan ...