Lukashenko outraged by Russia's refusal to conduct joint development of a rocket for MLRS

Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko was outraged by Russia's refusal to conduct joint development of missile weapons and to provide a Russian testing ground for Belarusian missile tests. This was reported by the press service of the head of state.

It was reported that on Friday Lukashenko visited the Belarusian weapons developer OKB TSP, where he was informed that Russia does not provide its military training grounds for testing the Belarusian missile. What Lukashenko reacted in a sharp form.

No need to kneel before the Russians. This is a signal if our closest ally not only does not agree to make a rocket with us, but does not provide a training ground ... (...)

- he said.

The Belarusian leader demanded that domestic gunsmiths continue to develop missiles with a destruction range of up to 300 km. At the same time, he noted that China provided significant assistance in the creation of rockets MLRS "Polonaise" of Belarus.

We need our own rocket. We cannot create weaponby which we will depend on other countries. Nobody will just give us this weapon. We were lucky to come to an agreement with the Chinese, they need to bow for it. But beyond this dependence should not be

- said Lukashenko.

Earlier, the State Committee on Military Industry of Belarus stated that there are no military training ranges in the republic at which live firing with a range of 300 km or more is possible.

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[Mavrikiy]

Lukashenko outraged by Russia's refusal to conduct joint development of a rocket for MLRS

Friendship, friendship, and tobaccos apart, with a huckster. Today we, tomorrow China, and there the USA .....

there are no military training grounds in the republic where combat firing with a range of 300 km or more is possible.

Ok, contractor and go ....

[Uncle Izya]

And tomorrow he will ask the Volga radar station and the connection in Vileyka for the exit, and then what?

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: Uncle Izya

And tomorrow he will ask the Volga radar station and the connection in Vileyka for the exit, and then what?

There has already been talk that we don’t really need bases in Belarus. Why would this be?

The possible closure of two military facilities in Belarus, working in the interests of Russia, in the event official Minsk refuses to extend their work amid cooling relations with Moscow, will not fundamentally affect Russia's defense capability.

“The communication center is not the only one. They are very effective for communication with submarines. That is, the loss of the Belarusian is not a tragedy. The radar there is good, overseas. But now everyone is blocking the new radars that Russia produces in series. They are prefabricated and much cheaper.

They are already located in Leningrad and in the Kaliningrad region. We experienced this in Ukraine during the time of Yanukovych, when our radars were disassembled, stolen, and stolen. Now another concept has been adopted, ”said Suzdaltsev.

We also recall that the ultra-long-range radio station in Vileyka is used to provide communications in the North Atlantic and the North Sea, to communicate with deeply submerged submarines and surface ships, and to transmit combat control signals for the use of forces and means.

The missile launch early warning station (Separate Radio Engineering Center, ORTU) in the town of Gantsevichi (Brest Region) performs the tasks of detecting ballistic missiles, space objects and controlling the patrol areas of NATO submarines in the North Atlantic and the Norwegian Sea.

The fate of the facilities is used by Minsk for bidding with Moscow, previously stated reserve colonel Vladimir Trukhan, a member of the working group on the creation of the Russian regional group of troops (forces) in Belarus

“Conversations are ongoing. In Belarus, the theme is now accelerating: we do not need a Russian military presence. Like, “if anything, they’ll hit us,” Trukhan said.

https://m.politnavigator.net/opyt-ukrainy-uchtjon-rossiya-gotova-k-vozmozhnomu-zakrytiyu-voennykh-obektov-v-belorussii.html

[Uncle Izya]

C'mon talk talk, and 5000 km of view also missile guidance

[avg]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Lukashenko outraged by Russia's refusal to conduct joint development of a rocket for MLRS

And why should we work with us to develop something, we have "no mind, no money."

[svp67]

But in general, has Lukashenko been pleased with Russia lately?

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: svp67

But in general, has Lukashenko been pleased with Russia lately?

And in everything, it’s boring ..... American oil sucks, and it’s expensive, an infection. Mood and spoils. On gas graters, multiaxial cars hobbled, and there is no one else to sell and so on. From the Ruins takes an example.

[Uncle Izya]

You can’t please, it’s kind of sucks Russian oil, they buy who sells

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Uncle Izya

You can’t please, it’s kind of sucks Russian oil, they buy who sells

Do not be stupid. Purchases from the United States at a price higher than what we offer.

[bald]

I will not correct a lot, sorry, "not recently, since the union."

[The leader of the Redskins]

Yes father for any opportunity clings that would kick the older brother.

[AnderS]

Yes father for any opportunity clings that would kick the older brother.

And what about the "big brother" in this regard?

[The leader of the Redskins]

It’s different ... I didn’t do beautiful things with my sister-neighbor ...

[Adimius38]

but is there really something to be pleased with))) the whole story with a union state from the very beginning looks like some kind of fight, where one with a club and the other without a club. I do not see any normal allied relations, for any reason, squabbles and often the fault in this in the Russian Federation.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Adimius38

but is there something to be satisfied with)))

Well, for starters, Belarus is the largest debtor of the Russian Federation for loans ....
The Russian Federation invests by direct investment in the economy of the Republic of Belarus (allocation of a loan for the construction of nuclear power plants), purchases of MZKT products (without the Russian Federation, the said enterprise would share the fate of the same enterprise in Kurgan) .. it purchases including as part of the defense order. other products from the enterprises of the military-industrial complex of the Republic of Belarus ...
Compared even with the CIS and EAC countries, Belarus has more benefits in the trade market for the provision of services in the Russian Federation, citizens of the Republic of Belarus on the labor market of the Russian Federation have more rights than a citizen of any state ... etc.

the whole story with a union state from the very beginning looks like some kind of fight, where one with a club and the other without a club.

Common currency - Old Man wanted to have a printing press for money too ... he was sent with this request to an absurd and no common currency ...
General migration policy - Old Man one day, without asking the Russian Federation for advice, canceled the visa regime for 80 states .... citizens who can freely cross the Russian border from Belarus, because there is no customs and border guards between Belarus and the Russian Federation ....
Customs and trade policy - Old Man still claims that oysters and lobsters supplied from Belarus to the Russian Federation are of local origin ... etc. etc.

I do not see any normal allied relations

I also....

often blame for this in the Russian Federation

For more details, you can ...?

[Adimius38]

don’t need Lalya Thrall, the Russian Federation purchases military-industrial complex products in the Republic of Belarus, because these products are essential for the RF Armed Forces, for the defense industry of the Russian Federation, the list of products is quite large, from optical-electronic base to heavy equipment that Belarusians can do.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Adimius38

don’t need Lala Thrall La,

You are sick, get treated, go to the hospital ....

The Russian Federation purchases military-industrial complex products in the Republic of Belarus, because these products are essential for the RF Armed Forces, for the defense industry of the Russian Federation, the list of products is quite large, from optical-electronic base to heavy equipment

I’m saying that apart from the Russian Federation, nobody needs all of the above ... or does the Republic of Belarus give away all of the above for free, as a faithful ally?

which Belarusians know how to do.

Until recently, the "ancient Sumerians" also knew how to do a lot ... the need made the Russian Federation do it now ...

[Vadim237]

Heavy equipment - MZKT will soon be replaced by BAZs and KAMAZs in the Russian Armed Forces.

[Soviet Union]

Freely cross the border .... bullshit.
If only they would try ... they require a passport ... Belarusian .. go. and if not .. will find out .. and turn.

[Aviator_]

I went. And more than once. Nothing of the kind about the requirement for a Belarusian passport. So bullshit

[BYCHARA]

Quote: Adimius38

but is there really something to be pleased with))) the whole story with a union state from the very beginning looks like some kind of fight, where one with a club and the other without a club. I do not see any normal allied relations, for any reason, squabbles and often the fault in this in the Russian Federation.

They wrote correctly and I would like to correct you not to Russia, but to “our media”, every day they publish almost one headline at a time and it is already clear that we are simply being pitched against the Belarusians on purpose .. Lukashenko is certainly not a diplomat and his tongue is sharp .. And quotes from his speeches are pulled out by journalists and persecuted .. And here they pick up .. Not casual all this!

[ppgt90]

Yes, no one Belarusians pulled anywhere and does not pull. The scream of Lukashenko has not ceased for more than a dozen years. Do not like it, do not go. Who is calling Lukashenko to the Kremlin, to Russia? Yes, no one. Zadolbal with forever outstretched hand. Give it, give it. Pay off your debts and bring down wherever you want. Who needs such allies - beggars? Belarus has not forgotten how much Russia owes?

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: svp67

But in general, has Lukashenko been pleased with Russia lately?

Recently? The country of Russia, its people or the Russian authorities? And you, you personally, what are you happy with? What good did the Russian government provide you? Is it good that the shells in the yard are not torn?
But, in general, Lukashenko must be punched. Then already in the world there will not be a single Slavic country where the government will welcome the nullified and self-isolated.

[krops777]

But in general, has Lukashenko been pleased with Russia lately?

Especially when he comes to some factory and starts the same song, about how he does not live well with his Russian brother, he is understood with all his heart and they are with all his hopes.

[Knell wardenheart]

Did it really finally happen that an ally could become a competitor?)

[Ded_Mazay]

He will not become a competitor. The scope is not the same. But click on .... - how else.

[LAWNER]

Without even reading, I remembered the Belorussian Polonaise. Wrote and flashed

[Thrifty]

For Lukashenko’s Victory Parade held on May 9, of course, thanks again, but you need to firmly decide — Is Russia really an ally, or just a cash cow? ??

[alien]

Quote: Thrifty

For Lukashenko’s Victory Parade held on May 9, of course, thanks again, but you need to firmly decide — Is Russia really an ally, or just a cash cow? ??

“Most of us are accustomed to perceiving Belarus as such a reserve of modernized socialism and a bulwark of struggle against the corruptive influence of the West. However it is - ILLUSION.
<...> A system of continuous brainwashing of the population has been deployed inside Belarus with American money, and the strategic task of all these efforts is the TRANSFORMATION of Belarusians into a screaming Russophobic HERD.

<…> Well, But Father has his own strategy. By playing the card of an angry and greedy Moscow, firstly, he disclaims responsibility for the growing socio-economic problems in Belarus. After all, now, as in Ukraine, the Russians are to blame for everything ...
<…> If the Americans enter Bularus in the same way as they entered Ukraine …………………………. "

Andrew Vajra
Why Belarus is doomed on 11.05.2020/78/XNUMX. (No. XNUMX)

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Alien

Quote: Thrifty

For Lukashenko’s Victory Parade held on May 9, of course, thanks again, but you need to firmly decide — Is Russia really an ally, or just a cash cow? ??

“Most of us are accustomed to perceiving Belarus as such a reserve of modernized socialism and a bulwark of struggle against the corruptive influence of the West. However it is - ILLUSION.
<...> A system of continuous brainwashing of the population has been deployed inside Belarus with American money, and the strategic task of all these efforts is the TRANSFORMATION of Belarusians into a screaming Russophobic HERD.

<…> Well, But Father has his own strategy. By playing the card of an angry and greedy Moscow, firstly, he disclaims responsibility for the growing socio-economic problems in Belarus. After all, now, as in Ukraine, the Russians are to blame for everything ...
<…> If the Americans enter Bularus in the same way as they entered Ukraine …………………………. "

Andrew Vajra
Why Belarus is doomed on 11.05.2020/78/XNUMX. (No. XNUMX)

I completely agree with you, it can be clearly seen in the video to which you gave a link
Andrew Vajra
Why Belarus is doomed on 11.05.2020/78/XNUMX. (No. XNUMX)

[alien]

Thanks, corrected the link.

[KVU-NSVD]

Is that true? What is the problem of helping an ally with polygons? Are there few polygons or are they painted for years to come? Actually grounded outrage this time ..

[svp67]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

What is the problem of helping an ally with polygons?

Now? Quarantine problem

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: svp67

Quote: KVU-NSVD

What is the problem of helping an ally with polygons?

Now? Quarantine problem

I think he would hardly have been indignant if he had simply been asked to wait until the end of the quarantine measures, he was completely refused to see.

[svp67]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

I think he would hardly have been indignant if he had simply been asked to wait until the end of the quarantine measures, he was completely refused to see.

Well, that may be so. But what about questions about the price of gas? While the gas price for Belarus was lower than the pan-European one, he was silent in Germany, but as soon as the price fell there, he immediately spoke about the injustice on the part of Russia. And demanded to lower the price. But why was he silent when their price was lower and did not ask to increase it? So here, I now believe little Lukashenko, he began to play some kind of his game ...

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: svp67

Quote: KVU-NSVD

What is the problem of helping an ally with polygons?

Now? Quarantine problem

And at the Belarusian NPP, quarantine does not interfere with the shipment of equipment

[svp67]

Quote: Stirbjorn

And at the Belarusian NPP, quarantine does not interfere with the shipment of equipment

Who knows. in any case, here the claims were to specialists who came from Murmansk, they brought the coronavirus to them ...

[Uncle Izya]

He had in mind before quarantine, they had been tested in China for a couple of years, but Lukas didn’t worry about Belarusians for his own power. More than Stalin, Brezhnev already grew on the throne with moss

[Uncle Izya]

In power, the liberals have no profit

[K-612-O]

Well, when did they develop this rocket and ran to the Chinese comrades, and now give a training ground for the Chinese rocket? You can also recall kidalovo from the MZKT, we did not sell the plant to us, and all the documentation was leaked to China. And how after this? The Chinese armored cars are driving in the parade, but what did the Tigers not please?

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: K-612-O

Well, when did they develop this rocket and ran to the Chinese comrades, and now give a training ground for the Chinese rocket? You can also recall kidalovo from the MZKT, we did not sell the plant to us, and all the documentation was leaked to China. And how after this? The Chinese armored cars are driving in the parade, but what did the Tigers not please?

Their factory is their right. Their army is their right. Polonaises are also not aimed at us, and their presence in Belarus is only a plus - we still do not have systems with such characteristics. And extra insults with an ally is a bad path, especially insults due to such trifles

[Kathernik]

Our landfill is our right ......

[KVU-NSVD]

It is one thing to independently decide on matters of national importance, it is another thing to refuse an ally in a request that is important to him and unprincipled for us.

[KCA]

Now he will accelerate the Polonaise by 300 km, and will sell it to fraternal Ukraine in the lungs, do we need it? Our landfill is our right, we ourselves rent the landfill in Kazakhstan

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: KCA

Now he will accelerate the Polonaise by 300 km, and will sell it to fraternal Ukraine in the lungs, do we need it? Our landfill is our right, we ourselves rent the landfill in Kazakhstan

We need landfills in Kazakhstan constantly, and not one-time - that's why we keep them in long-term leases. All tired of arguing - to the question of the reasons for the refusal, so no intelligible versions even brought

[V.I.P.]

Ukraine itself can buy from China. Moreover, they have MLRS with a range of 450 km. Anyway, the Chinese have a bunch of MLRS with different ranges. This Belarusians bought 200 km cheaper. Could buy at 350 ..

[Antokha]

Their factory is their right. Their army is their right

Our training ground, our right to refuse to use it. Our industry, its decision to cooperate with Belarusians (who are going to bow to the Chinese now) or not.

[K-612-O]

These little things will be pulled by another hundred million, the costs of preparing and conducting tests at the test site. And about what we don’t have: IskanderM and IskanderK. Since the Polonaise is already an OTRK, and not an MLRS, and the sense of a non-tactical missile with a high probability of being shot down and a relatively small warhead is doubtful.
And about your own, not ours: do we have an allied state? So then, behind the ally’s back, to sell anything to anyone without getting into it, and not only to China

[Non liberoid Russian]

Their factory is their right. Their army is their right.

our polygons are our right, more questions, or will you whine further why did you not provide a pseudo-union polygon?

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: Not Liberoid Russian

or you will whine further

You boor, at a meeting for such a tone of teeth would be croaked through Adam's apple.

[Non liberoid Russian]

well good luck , ass only from the couch lift yes leave the kitchenette

[Lopatov]

Quote: K-612-O

Well, when they developed this rocket they ran to the Chinese comrades

Everything is very simple: then the Belarusians were refused with Iskander and they began to rivet something long-range with the Chinese.
And it would be okay if they kept their promise, "not a single installation until the complete re-equipment of the RF Armed Forces." The Iskanders of Armenia were staged.

[K-612-O]

They didn’t refuse, father refused to post ours, but he didn’t even stutter about purchases. And do not forget that Iskander is still a carrier of nuclear weapons.

[Uncle Izya]

There were tigers and their local volatas

[Adimius38]

what slow-witted you are, and the Belarusians ran to the Chinese because the Slavic brother put down bricks, in fact, everything that Belarusians don’t offer is put in wheels. Any offers are met with hostility and with a big creak, resentment and squabble. Of course, it’s easier to deal with the Chinese, you don’t have to crawl and beg for them, and tolerate humiliation. The Chinese have a business approach, they help, finance, of course, have their own benefits in this. For that matter, China is making huge investments in Belarus, this is a huge number of joint projects. On the other hand, oil contracts are concluded with the United States, but this is not much, but a bad bell for the Russian Federation. In this situation, I see no prospects for the development of allied relations and not Belarusians are to blame. God grant that the Russian Federation does not lose Belarus at all as an ally, and this blow will be worse than the loss of Ukraine

[Cyril G ...]

He is already 10-12 years old as not a de facto ally. Already, citizens of the Russian Federation were issued upon request to the west ....

[Sergey269]

Lukashenka's offense - FARS! He understands very well that the technology for the production of weapons is much more expensive than the weapons themselves. The joint production of missiles, a priori, implies the transfer of Russian technologies (which are secret, of state importance) to the not always adequate "Brother". And where are the guarantees that in the near future, these technologies will end up in completely "non-brotherly countries"? China delivered missiles to Belarus? Set! Not free, of course ... But, the technology of their production? So Lukashenka is rushing about, and eat the fish and not choke on the bone. Something he is in no hurry to share with us developments for the same MZKT. You can discuss this topic for a long time, but cooperation should be trusting and mutually beneficial. Buy Russian goods, sell yours, just do not speculate with the "brotherhood of peoples"! The old man acts according to the principle - "Promise does not mean to marry", moreover, all the time of his reign. Personally, I have nothing against him, he reminds me of the chairman of the collective farm from the film "Kuban Cossacks". Only now are the times somewhat different.

[avg]

Is that true? What is the problem of helping ally with polygons

Yes, the ally has a problem, where is he? Aw! Well, at least once, he supported something, but at least he said thanks. It dawned on us that if we hadn’t succeeded, we were already rejoicing. Are you sure that this rocket will not be in the country tomorrow? Me not.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

What is the problem of helping an ally with polygons?

There is such a book, the Budget Code of the Russian Federation, everything is written there, including and about unplanned expenses ...
As for an ally ... Belarus does not recognize that Crimea and Sevastopol belong to the Russian Federation, which means it is not an ally, but a "partner" of both the US and the EU ...

Little polygons

The main rocket range for testing MLRS and OTRK we have one in general, in the "Kapustin Yar" ...

Actually grounded outrage this time ..

What are the reasons for the indignation that the freebies were refused?
I’ve never heard how much the Russian Federation is from any country in the world, incl. from the CIS countries, I got something for free ... maybe remind ...?

[krops777]

Is that true? What is the problem of helping an ally with polygons?

Yes, I think there is no problem here, as always sucked out of my finger, although it may just have pulled up this potato dad, how much mud can Russia be washed up with is the answer.

[Vasyan1971]

Nobody will just give us this weapon ...
- said Lukashenko.

Except Russia. Yeah.
He said something about this lack of money and brains ...
https://regnum.ru/news/polit/1952292.html

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Recognize the Crimea, get a training ground. Better yet, ask in the EU or the USA

[mark2]

If you give everyone, the bed will fall apart. I'm talking about the landfill
Why dad rocket? Against whom is he arming himself. Is it not about our soul? Now let him put his Oginsky at one border and launch him in the opposite direction. Dimensions of the country allow. And if they don’t allow it, then all the more so for him there is no need.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Let Chubatky ask for help. Of course, I understand that a politician must be flexible, but not so much about ....... oh, like this chairman of a collective farm. It is nonsense, not thinking about the consequences. Scatters and then licks all the crotch, the one to whom he scammed. Is he sane at all?

[Gennady Fomkin]

Old Man in any way with an oak tree collapsed. Pennies hde?

[Pug]

Well, Old Man, hold on !!! Now you will be laid out ..)))
Brothers, do not be offended, this is not the opinion of Russians in Russia! ..
You yourself know who needs this bullying ..
I don’t know how to protect you from these cries, etc.
Well, maybe this will help?

The whole song talks about it .. !!!! Hold on brothers ..

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

You yourself know who needs this bullying ..
Where did YOU see the "bullying" here? People express their opinions. I am not against the fact that Belarusians are a brotherly people. The people are brotherly, but the authorities choose - clearly NOT brotherly.

[Zaurbek]

They can, let them do it. Then they will calmly trade.

[Radius]

There is always a chance to use Russian landfills: just hold a referendum in Belarus and become part of the Russian Federation.

[Pug]

Quote: Radius

There is always a chance to use Russian landfills: just hold a referendum in Belarus and become part of the Russian Federation.

If only Lukashenko becomes the head of Russia! ! There were Georgians, Ukrainians. Jews in the 90s and 2000s .. Then I agree!
I am for such a referendum !!!! And to bring the troops into full combat readiness! Just in case ..
Old Man is cool with you .. many will start to run right away))))
The main thing is that they are in the same panties draped .. (sure to check the panties)))

[hagen]

Quote: Pug

Old Man is cool with you .. many will start to run right away))))

Daddy, in terms of his level of thinking and behavior, does not pull on a serious political leader. Tongue sweeps like a broom. He throws offensive epithets in our direction for the sake of a catchphrase and "cool" PR. The very level drops down to the collective farm level. We don't need such a head.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Daddy, in terms of his level of thinking and behavior, does not pull on a serious political leader. Tongue sweeps like a broom. He throws offensive epithets in our direction for the sake of a catchphrase and "cool" PR. The very level drops down to the collective farm level. We don't need such a head.
that's for sure.

[D16]

He drops his level to the collective farm. We don’t need such a head.

Why write the same thing with two nicknames? Post-wage payment?

[lelik613]

Lukashenko-Zhirinovsky without a muzzle.

[qobnvmog]

Not with Russia, so with Ukraine.

[demchuk.ig]

Of this "Polonaise", Batkin's only chassis.

[Operator]

Where a horse with a hoof, there and Rygorych cancer (American litter) with a claw.

[Alexfly]

Well, in vain, trials, trials, but interesting ideas could have been fucked ... Or is it just that everything is the same with us ???

[Nicholas]

Chinese missiles are used by Jeepies. Our-Glonass and the system of adjusting and controlling the terrain, though our range is less, though there is an opinion. To shoot for 200 km, you need reliable reconnaissance, otherwise you’ll release the entire BC on rubber targets. So I asked Russian Grygorich system Escander. Says I will keep all the horns at gunpoint. And in the Russian airbase refused, voters will not understand him. if the Russian Air Force will be here. so he was also denied Escanders. Grygorich said they wouldn’t give weapons, we’ll do it ourselves. After 2 years we’ll have an analogue of Iskander. It’s already announced to the whole country that they have fulfilled the order and made the same weapons as in Russia, but admitted that the missiles Chinese 300 mm and hit as much as 450 km, and 2 years ago they tested and they already flew 218 km. He was bowing to the Chinese, and they deceived, so Grygorich wants to bring Polonaise in TTX close to Iskander i.e. at a distance of 450 km and there’s nothing new here. He wants to get out at the expense of someone. It doesn’t work, someone is to blame. They don’t want to give the training ground.

[strelokmira]

It was reported that on Friday Lukashenko visited the Belarusian weapons developer OKB TSP, where he was informed that Russia does not provide its military training grounds for testing the Belarusian missile. What Lukashenko reacted in a sharp form.

Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko outraged by Russia's refusal to conduct joint development of missile weapons

And where in the article about the joint development and development of which missile weapons exactly?

[vkd.dvk]

Develop (taking on 90% of the effort and expense), dividing the results in half, when we don’t have such a task .... We need not to deal with blackmail, but coordinate work plans. Do not want to - bow to China.

[strelokmira]

what to develop then? )))

[Sasha Minakov]

The mustachioed Russophobe completely flew off the coils. He will not be the second Yanyk. His Belarusians are crucified.

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: AlexFly

Well, in vain, trials, trials, but interesting ideas could have been fucked ... Or is it just that everything is the same with us ???

It’s good to borrow ideas from specialists who are much better than you in business. To drag on yourself those who are three steps lower is not equal cooperation. We have glands with similar parameters. And perhaps much more advanced.

[Alexfly]

Sometimes, in small things, interesting ideas are hidden or are born ... And just to deny - this is the lot of nihilists, I hope with them not along the way ...

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: mark2

If you give everyone, the bed will fall apart. I'm talking about the landfill
Why dad rocket? Against whom is he arming himself. Is it not about our soul? Now let him put his Oginsky at one border and launch him in the opposite direction. Dimensions of the country allow. And if they don’t allow it, then all the more so for him there is no need.

With our help, make and sell ukram. What is not clear?

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

Quote: K-612-O

Well, when did they develop this rocket and ran to the Chinese comrades, and now give a training ground for the Chinese rocket? You can also recall kidalovo from the MZKT, we did not sell the plant to us, and all the documentation was leaked to China. And how after this? The Chinese armored cars are driving in the parade, but what did the Tigers not please?

Their factory is their right. Their army is their right. Polonaises are also not aimed at us, and their presence in Belarus is only a plus - we still do not have systems with such characteristics. And extra insults with an ally is a bad path, especially insults due to such trifles

In order not to grind rubbish, you need to know a lot. As I understand it, you do not work in the Foreign Ministry.

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: AzDefence2020

Quote: Mavrikiy

Friendship, friendship, and tobaccos apart

What about fraternal bonds? And also say southerners traders.

Chatting in Berlin at a meeting with Merkel about four years ago (I don’t remember the exact date) that he would strangle Russia with a pipe. Brother, his mother .....

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: strelokmira

what to develop then? )))

And the article from the beginning to read, not fate?

[sanya]

Well, then he will sell to Ukraine ...
It’s not at all clear why Russia needs such allies

[yfast]

China can bow, Russia - no. The dad quickly forgot who supported him when the civilized world spread rot for the opposition. Well, China will definitely support it.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Pug

Well, Old Man, hold on !!! Now you will be laid out ..)))
Brothers, do not be offended, this is not the opinion of Russians in Russia! ..
You yourself know who needs this bullying ..
I don’t know how to protect you from these cries, etc.
Well, maybe this will help?

The whole song talks about it .. !!!! Hold on brothers ..

Tired already - The developers assured the President that the first prototype of the "XNUMX" should appear by September. For testing this missile, testing grounds are being considered in China, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Saudi Arabia. Again "Mustache Bulbe": "War is not ours"? Sometimes it is embarrassing and unpleasant for his speech. Well, he lives in a parallel reality. Above, its own logic. But with this rocket ... B-s, already too much.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Judging by the persistence in creating the rocket, the "chief epidemiologist" of Belarus promised this rocket to the Arabs, and may have already received a certain advance. He’s ready to bow to the Chinese) Bulba in his pocket and let him saw a rocket in his waltz rhythm. Although it’s not very clear - 300 km range - it’s only in all the nearest neighbors and reaches

[Hermann]

The polonaise, which was tested by shooting in Belarus three hundred years ago three years ago, may now want to experience something more long-range.

[Nicholas]

Polonaise shot only 218 km. it was 2 years ago. and Grygorich announced that he was shooting at 450, and it started that Russia didn’t give him the Escandra, he asked, but they didn’t give them. I gave the command that we don’t need the Russians, we’ll do it ourselves. That's all about Polonaise and goes. they do not shoot like Iskander. The Chinese failed or again deceived Grygorich. So he decided at the expense of Russia to increase the range of Polonaise

[Nicholas]

of the brand-new one in Belarus, only the Oriole-80 trunks, shoots with aviation NURs. According to some reports, the firing range is 3-4 km, according to others 4-5 km. The range is 6 km and not 70 mm.

[Esaul]

Let me guess, Old Man asked me to test my rocket for free at our training ground without giving anything in return?

[Vadim237]

It’s not so much with missiles in general with everything oil gas commodity circulation electricity pothole at the border loans - GIVE GIVE GIVE GIVE We demand a discount that is what it means to be friends with the collective farmer who is the governing state.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Herman

The polonaise, which was tested by shooting in Belarus three hundred years ago three years ago, may now want to experience something more long-range.

Who should be fired at? I don’t already know why Lukashenka has more thrift or foolishness.

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: Adimius38

don’t need Lalya Thrall, the Russian Federation purchases military-industrial complex products in the Republic of Belarus, because these products are essential for the RF Armed Forces, for the defense industry of the Russian Federation, the list of products is quite large, from optical-electronic base to heavy equipment that Belarusians can do.

Do not breach, since you don’t know.
In some cases, Belarus is a competitor in the production of automotive and other engineering products. Reseller of Russian oil, bought at half price and supplying ukrofashistov. A crook selling Polish apples at one time. betraying Russia on every corner.

[Interlocutor]

betraying Russia on every corner

Not on everyone, but through the corner.

[DPN]

In general, while Belarus is blocking Moscow from NATO and the United States. And not vice versa.

[Interlocutor]

Chago ?????????????????

[Terenin]

Quote: Interlocutor

Chago ?????????????????

Well, do not come here You are in the interlocutors

[Interlocutor]

Be patient. Once switched to a person, then hurt.
You here about the barriers stop ..... "Belarus is overshadowing (not even Russia) Moskvu". If an adversary needs it, he will fly around Belarus ... But from stupid rulers, of all stripes, no one will protect Belarus

[Gennady Fomkin]

Yes, something is true, quite often) something went wrong with this fantasy.

[Boris Chernikov]

funny joke)

[Esaul]

Yes of course! When the NATO nuclear missiles fly at us, Belarus will knock them all down to one with the help of its top-secret and irresistible missile defense system!

[Boris Afinogenov]

Guys, yes Lukashenko is the same Yanukovych. But he thinks that, damn it, smarter. But Viktor Fedorovich also thought that he was smart and cunning.

All these "brothers" are accustomed to the fact that you can have something to fuck with Russia, but just a little, some problem - in the bushes.

This is not very pleasing, but another pleases: in difficult times, brothers and their people really appear.


Let them drop out. Only our people will remain.

[Terenin]

Quote: Boris Afinogenov

Guys, yes Lukashenko is the same Yanukovych

By the way, he did not recognize the Crimea as Russian ...

[Cyril G ...]

Here is such an ally and brother ...

[APASUS]

Something ours outwitted themselves? You can really be aware of everything that Belarus produces, performance characteristics of missiles, weaknesses and strengths, analysis and even test it

[Gennady Fomkin]

Earlier, Lukashenko wanted to build rockets with Ukraine. Here is what he said to Zelensky:

This is not because we rattle weapons. We are working a lot on the development of the rocket industry in Belarus. We did not have such a production, but you have it. We are very interested in helping you with this. Did you learn to do Lisapedy? ”But Father has some obsessive thoughts about" cancer "and" on his knees. " Inserts constantly. Gray in the beard, the devil in the rib. How does someone want to sell a bandustan?

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: DPN

In general, while Belarus is blocking Moscow from NATO and the United States. And not vice versa.

Himself not funny? Who can go to conquer territories? Through such an unreliable defender. Missiles fly through this patch of land. Old Man inviting NATO to its exercises last year. Demanding to close early warning radars.
Just in the wake of the Baltic states. Such an ally is not necessary.

[Pandiurin]

In vain Lukashenko, again hysteria.
MLRS, judging by the article, Lukashenko is Chinese.
Perhaps it was the Chinese part of the rocket that was not allowed to go to the training ground, and since it is not possible to divide, there is no tolerance in general.
Again, there is no trust in Lukashenko’s words, maybe there’s a completely different situation there, or in general everything was expelled from a finger.

[bald]

Voenka, and you on which side ?! I will say frankly - you sold out.

[bald]

into three Soviet letters.

[bald]

And you will have to answer, at the highest, and mom will not help.

[bald]

We are called sofas !!!, crap, but here on the military commissar there were people who changed tracks in the mud, in Afghanistan, in Chechnya, etc. and we will participate and at any moment we’ll go.

[al.cozeev]

In addition to Chechnya, there were Angola, Yugoslavia, Transnistria, Dagestan, Syria, and many have been to Libya, Laos, Nagorno-Karabakh, an operation to force Georgia to peace. We just keep silent about it, since it is not customary to talk about it and write about it. And if I wrote a few words about it, then you are criticized and insulted for it. How many new things have I learned about myself since 2017. Here is the little that they write and say to me. "" Assassin "," "" Mercenary "", "" So that you die "", "" And who asked the CHUROK to save you in Beslan "," ", instead of living and having fun, it risks his life following orders" "," "Why weren't you killed there? I would only be glad of this "". And this is just a fraction of what I have been facing in civilian life over the past three and a half years.

[tolancop]

They did the right thing, that they refused ... Something was refused to the closest ally in the deployment of an airbase, and now "... and we are for sho? ...". And with whom is Lukashenka going to fight with operational-tactical missiles? And where does he have those that are? And how Ukraine supplies weapons - silence.
T.ch. our ally is clearly rotten and with his own hands to strengthen his military capabilities is utter stupidity.
Interrupted.

[tolancop]

Quote: Spade

..... Just asked for a testing ground. Weapons for your own army. They do not have their own at such ranges. And one prominent Russian military leader and leader decided to petty them finely. Resentments gnaw him .... And he puts these insults above the interests of Russia ...

What is the interest of Russia in the appearance of a poorly predictable neighbor of its own operational tactical missiles?
Besides with OUR help? Do not explain?

[Nikolaevich I]

Poor ... poor Belarus, shot through and through! And she still "rock the boat"! Is it worth it? Will it last long? After all, if the "powerful of this world" really want to, then the country, in the end, will have "their bin capitulatory" ...! And it is possible that this will be on the terms of unconditional surrender! Wouldn't it be better if Belarus "on its own, on its own ..." decides that it is time "now and voluntarily", to stick with, to a stronger and greater side than it ... ?!

[mmaxx]

When should Russian Belarusians brothers. And when Belarusians should, we are an independent country. All logic Lukashenko.
Now we will help the Old Man with missiles. And then he will sell them to Ukraine and so on and so forth.

[1536]

Why resent? It's just that Russia doesn't need a "Belarusian rocket". Or we should gladly climb hugging that this comrade. from Belarus finally offered something in terms of cooperation in the industrial field? I think there are no problems with the tests at the Russian proving ground. But the entrance is paid. Perhaps this is just another provocation in the hope of rejection. Will the next call with a proposal to produce a "joint rocket" be in Warsaw? There they will understand, accept, feed and heat a new missile, so long as it is directed against the Russians.

[Sergey269]

Lukashenka's offense - FARS! He understands very well that the technology for the production of weapons is much more expensive than the weapons themselves. The joint production of missiles, a priori, implies the transfer of Russian technologies (which are secret, of state importance) to the not always adequate "Brother". And where are the guarantees that in the near future, these technologies will end up in completely "non-brotherly countries"? China delivered missiles to Belarus? Set! Not free, of course ... But, the technology of their production? So Lukashenka is rushing about, and eat the fish and not choke on the bone. Something he is in no hurry to share with us developments for the same MZKT. You can discuss this topic for a long time, but cooperation should be trusting and mutually beneficial. Buy Russian goods, sell yours, just do not speculate with the "brotherhood of peoples"! The old man acts according to the principle - "Promise does not mean to marry", moreover, all the time of his reign. Personally, I have nothing against him, he reminds me of the chairman of a collective farm from the film "Kuban Cossacks". Only now are the times somewhat different ...

[Enemy]

So Russia is creating Platform-O, and obsolete MWCs will transport Byalorussian potatoes to Europe)))

[Rusticolus]

It seems Old Man again wanted everything for free for free. Show everything, give it all, feed it a drink, bring it back ... And then such a bummer. Ah ah ah what a bad Russia. Missiles (for free) does not teach to do. Using their landfills (for no reason) does not. That is how his thoughts should be read.

[Enemy]

Russia has done everything right! You can’t have anything to do with the unaddressed.
Remember how Lukashenko was indignant at the export-made fighters received.
Of course, if they were in Russian, they would have sold it to Americans, like the S-300 for study

[Alex Justice]

This is how North Korea would like to test missiles in the United States or vice versa :)

[Gennady Fomkin]

The leader of the Indian tribe gathered in the jungle:
- INDIANS !!! Are we a great people?
- DAAAAAA!
“Then why don't we have a nuclear missile?”
- Well ... Let's build.
They cut down the healthiest sequoia, hollowed out the core with axes, prepared gunpowder according to old Spanish recipes, hammered it, nailed a cork, brought an awesome rope to the wick.
- Where will we launch it?
- Let's go to Yerevan!
- And why to Yerevan?
- I don’t know others ...
They wrote "To Yerevan" on a rocket, piled up the whole tribe, set fire to the rope-fuse ... LIKE TOUGH! ... In short, the local Armageddon: smoke, fumes, everyone is lying around ... The leader without a leg, without an arm, looks around:
- Nyha ... I can imagine what is happening in Yerevan ...

[Gennady Fomkin]

Happens. Here Borya spoke the same nonsense, only mostly when he was drunk or drunk.

[Ovsigovets]

not very appropriate indignation at the refusal of joint development..... WHO is the specialist and who will say - does the Russian Federation currently have problems with the power supply for the MLRS in service??? As far as I know, there are NO such problems. A logical question is - why do we need to reinvent the wheel to replace the wheel? Development involves R&D, that is, an expensive and costly pleasure with what ultimate goal? Fit “But Father” a new power supply for the MLRS for our money???? I am ready to pay if the position of “Father” is, for example, the Head of the Belarusian Territory.......as for example the Krasnoyarsk Territory (dear siblings, I ask you not to be offended, BUT you can compare the scale of the territories on Google maps and believe me, the Krasnoyarsk Territory is no less)

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: DPN

In general, while Belarus is blocking Moscow from NATO and the United States. And not vice versa.

Belarus was helped out by all the peoples of the USSR. At least the proof of this is the number of losses.
Belarusians gave their lives, undoubtedly, in the name of their own and others’ freedom. Eternal memory to them. But others did the same. And in much larger quantities.

[babylon]

Read your comment carefully first, do you even understand what you are talking about? what's the difference between us and them? we are used to it, not them, they are not us,))
That we are made of different stuff?
Has the blue blood started playing?
This is the real attitude of Russia towards its people, or are the Chukchis closer to us than the Belarusians? They just have oil for which our oligarchs fill their pockets
This is the face of oligarchic Russia

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Quote: Hagen

Missile technology is a privacy-sensitive area. It's more expensive to let anyone in here.

So we worked together with India and now she has a brahmos. But this one is not adequate.

Two big differences. Missile technologies, being in the army, sooner or later lose both relevance and novelty. The more participants in the operation, the less secrecy, at least do something here.
The main thing here is not maintaining secrecy, but taking part in the development.
Pilot production and development are very expensive. Invest in the project on equal terms for India and Belarus.... do you feel the difference?

[Nicholas]

There is a training ground in Belarus with a range of up to 350 km - this is Dretun, if you are armchair analysts, you know something, but all this was invented to roll the barrel on Russia and there is a reason for it, the older brother does not want to overpay for the purchase of enterprises that may be useful for military-industrial production in Russia, that’s the rub.

[Prisoner]

But our people are not indignant that this ally did not recognize either Crimea or Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Affairs.

[Nicholas]

I’m not a MLRS systemist. But I know how it was, a former commander of the Gradov division goes to the dacha and tells me he saw what the Belarusians created, and I ask what they created, and the polonaise says. Ugh, I tell him. what they created there, the chassis, and the missiles were supplied by the Chinese, he didn’t believe me. So when Grigorych openly stated that the missiles were purchased from China, he called him, indicating that the specialist engineers claimed that if they had developed the missiles themselves, it would have taken 10 years .We received some information from Ukraine. Grigorych said that he acted like Stalin, ordered his people to do it - they did it, in response that the Russians did not give him Iskanders. But he said that the Chinese helped and the Polonaise is shooting at 450 km, and now he has Iskanders are not needed. I became interested in the Chinese MLRS systems and found out that they have 5 calibers - we have 3.120,220, 300 and 450 and the range exceeds the largest 220 km. But as you can see, the Chinese deceived again. And when tested at the Dretun training ground, Polonez only fired at 450 km. So Grygorych put pressure on his engineers, but it’s not possible to shoot at 400 km. Well, as always, suggest it to Russia. It didn’t work, so the attacks were prepared as always, as if there was a missile, but there’s no place to test it, Russia doesn’t provide testing grounds .So try it on Dretuni, they wanted to shoot there at 200 km. Well, you have to bite again. they offend their younger brother. But the Chinese have gone ahead in the MLRS matter. The range of our tornado-S is only being developed at 120 km, according to the latest data they only work at a range of -70. Hurricane up to XNUMX km. latest development.

[lopvlad]

This is a signal if our closest ally not only does not agree to make a rocket with us, but the training ground does not provide

This is not a signal, but a completely fair and logical response from Russia to Belarus’s constant refusal to place a Russian military base on its territory.

We were lucky to reach an agreement with the Chinese; we must bow to them for this.

if China had invested as much as Russia throughout the decades of “independence” of Belarus, they would have long ago forced Lukashenko to constantly kneel in front of them. Otherwise, China gave a broken penny and Lukashenko is already ready to bow to them and to Russia, thanks to which Belarus exists afloat, draws figs.
He declared a fight against the RUSSIAN WORLD and wants to continue to live at the expense of Russia.

[sergo42]

Every day the old man yells how independent and sovereign he is, and tries to sit on not even two, but three chairs. And apparently his ass is already torn, because in response to any refusal to give him something for free again, he falls into hysterics.

[babylon]

This is whose policy is reuniting the former peoples of the USSR
This is Russia’s true attitude towards its peoples, that’s all said without comment.
And the further I go, the more disappointed I become in Russia’s policy towards its people.

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: vavilon

Read your comment carefully first, do you even understand what you are talking about? what's the difference between us and them? we are used to it, not them, they are not us,))
That we are made of different stuff?
Has the blue blood started playing?
This is the real attitude of Russia towards its people, or are the Chukchis closer to us than the Belarusians? They just have oil for which our oligarchs fill their pockets
This is the face of oligarchic Russia

Here is the answer of a real Natsik. My post is a response to the one who wrote that Belarusians protected us from the outside. Not Belarusians. NO, we all are. Is this the attitude of an elder, a boss, a Nazi, or Nazism in your answer? You begin to weave in the Evenks, the Chukchi, with a tonality of their secondary quality. This is what you share.

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: Ovsigovets

not very appropriate indignation at the refusal of joint development..... WHO is the specialist and who will say - does the Russian Federation currently have problems with the power supply for the MLRS in service??? As far as I know, there are NO such problems. A logical question is - why do we need to reinvent the wheel to replace the wheel? Development involves R&D, that is, an expensive and costly pleasure with what ultimate goal? Fit “But Father” a new power supply for the MLRS for our money???? I am ready to pay if the position of “Father” is, for example, the Head of the Belarusian Territory.......as for example the Krasnoyarsk Territory (dear siblings, I ask you not to be offended, BUT you can compare the scale of the territories on Google maps and believe me, the Krasnoyarsk Territory is no less)

We've had enough of independent Chechnya, Tatarstan, and Bashkortostan. Also this chairman here. He dragged himself into the union until the moment he realized that he would not be allowed to participate in the elections to the Preziki of Russia-Belarus. I wanted to unite with the ability to print money (Russian rubles) in Minsk.
Not a damn thing? With your 5% of total GDP, start splashing the loot, flooding the country with empty pieces of paper. When he was refused such a job, he began to forge. A long time ago, at the beginning of 2000. If we unite, then only by regions into Russia. And no Belarus, in any form. If he doesn't want to, that's his business. We are already getting used to living without these parasites. Don't you understand the difference - the Krasnoyarsk Territory has no national coloring. Belarusian has, and a conditional border can ALWAYS become unconditional. The USSR collapsed precisely because of this. The USA does not have national characteristics in its state structure. That's why it can't fall apart. ALL of our republics have their own territory. Only the RUSSIAN republic does not exist, and we do not have our own land in Russia.

[babylon]

Russian republic?!! ))))))
They made fun
And who do you think the Russians themselves are, do they exist or not?

[pro100y.belarus]

Parades, rockets... It's like there's nothing else to do. Which way to shoot? And if you shoot, won’t they smash you back?
Some kind of adult game of “soldiers”.
It would be better if I washed the dirty cows, it would be more useful.

[Sergey49]

So fight off Russia if something happens :)

[al.cozeev]

Belarusians, is your “president” adequate? Let Russia test missiles here? What, it’s a pity to blow up your little land? Again Russia owes and owes you? You will immediately announce the entire list of requests and demands to Russia, at least we will laugh at your requests and demands.

[businessv]

Since when did the little bear become the same height as Father?!

[Tarasios]

In recent years, Lukashenko has been behaving like a roaming wife: she does what she wants, but always blames her husband for everything. So that, like, he wouldn’t dare raise his head and look at the situation with a sober, unconcerned look. Constantly nagging, looking for a reason to dig in, but... doesn’t give up. Because the husband supports, and the lovers... that’s all, and they only “promise to marry”;)

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: vavilon

Russian republic?!! ))))))
They made fun
And who do you think the Russians themselves are, do they exist or not?

And you think deeply. If there is anything. I understand what will lead us all in implementing this idea. Lord forbid, to what. But facts are stubborn things.

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: al.cozeev

Belarusians, is your “president” adequate? Let Russia test missiles here? What, it’s a pity to blow up your little land? Again Russia owes and owes you? You will immediately announce the entire list of requests and demands to Russia, at least we will laugh at your requests and demands.

Yes, it’s not a matter of damage to the land that has been spoiled for a hundred years. The fact is that Russia DOES NOT NEED to participate in the development of something that has already existed for a long time. Throwing away money in the name of Lukashenko’s fanaticism?

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: strelokmira

what to develop then? )))

If the article is difficult to read, can you at least read the title?

[vkd.dvk]

Quote: AlexFly

Sometimes, in small things, interesting ideas are hidden or are born ... And just to deny - this is the lot of nihilists, I hope with them not along the way ...

Telling your father what to do with your mother does not suit you. No matter how small you are.
When you grow up, you will be...