85 years ago there was a plane crash "Maxim Gorky" over Moscow

Exactly 85 years ago, the flagship of the Soviet civil aviation Ant-20 "Maxim Gorky" crashed. At that time, the whole country was following the success of domestic aviation, so the disaster received a huge response.

"Maxim Gorky" was a real miracle of technology. It had a wingspan of 63 meters, and its height was 11 meters. A number of innovations were introduced in it, some of them for the first time not only in the USSR, but also in the world. Most often it was used for propaganda purposes.

On May 18, 1935, the Ant-20 flew over Moscow, accompanied by a two-seater R-5 aircraft, where the film crew was located, and a single-seat I-5 fighter under the control of Nikolai Blagin. On board were 11 crew members and 37 passengers, including six children.

The fighter performed a "dead loop" and at the top point over the "Maxim Gorky" lost control, crashed onto the Ant-20. The latter fell to pieces in the air, and then an explosion rang out on the ground. The I-5 pilot Blagin and all who were aboard Maxim Gorky died.

It is believed that Blagin was forced to perform a dangerous element by those who planned to make a spectacular shoot, film workers Ryazhsky and Pullin. They told the pilot that this was the order of the Air Force command. They were later arrested and convicted.

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[tanki tanks]

So, the accident was not due to the design of the Ant-20, but because of inexperienced driving. And why blame the design of the Ant-20?

[alone]

Quote: tanki-tanki

And why blame the design of the Ant-20?

Did anyone blame the ANT-20 design there?

[Piramidon]

Quote: tanki-tanki

And why blame the design of the Ant-20?

Can you quote from an article with these charges?

[tanki tanks]

At that time, the whole country was following the success of domestic aviation, so the disaster received a huge response.

Well, not blame.

[alone]

well ... because of the whims of two deceased, such a tragedy ..

[Sergey Valov]

And here are two insane? The bully Blagin himself died and killed a lot of people. No one could ever give him a crazy order to turn around Maxim Gorky, and to blame the mythical requests of filmmakers, this is babble.

[alone]

Quote: Sergey Valov

And here are two insane? The bully Blagin himself died and killed a lot of people.

And for what then they condemned these two, since this is babble .. So the conversation about the linden order still took place. The same pilot of the R-5 could be a witness ..

[Rostislav]

When was this military order transmitted through filmmakers?

[alone]

Quote: Rostislav

When was this military order transmitted through filmmakers?

Well, how can I tell you ... The fighter pilot died .. 2 filmmakers remain, who were also tried by the pilot of the r-5 ..
There are three options:
1) the fighter pilot turned out to be a dumbass (you are right, orders are not transmitted to the military through filmmakers), believing filmmakers
2) the one who gave the order to the pilot decided to admit giving the order and slander the filmmakers, which was confirmed by the P-5 pilot ..
3) The fighter pilot did this on his own initiative, which proved his stupidity in two times.
Now, if there were protocols of interrogations and a court stereogram from the archives, it would be possible to make a final analysis of the guilt of someone specifically .. but, unfortunately, there are no such materials

[The leader of the Redskins]

Sometimes I cite the example of "Maxim Gorky" in disputes as a counterargument - I think too often pilots and sailors make dangerous maneuvers in the immediate vicinity of foreign aircraft and naval vessels. Usually hurray-patriots have no choice but to put a "minus" ...

[user]

Sometimes I cite the example of "Maxim Gorky" in disputes as a counterargument - I think too often pilots and sailors make dangerous maneuvers in close proximity to foreign aircraft and naval vessels.

May I have a question?
What kind of pilots and sailors are we talking about, or again are all good sailors and pilots against all bad sailors and pilots of foreign ships?
In this matter, the main word is foreign.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Can. It is possible and the defendant - I DO NOT care in what language a stupid idea "cut" or something else appears in my head. Moreover, I don't care what region is on the number of a fool doing such tricks on the road.
Do you need only two colors? Black and white? Paint me black right away! I have a father in Ukraine and I do not consider the word liberal abusive. Forum users know this.

[Bashkirkhan]

The cause of the death of the plane is dementia and courage.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

bravery and stupidity

Courage has never been associated with dementia. Courage, yes, but not courage. In a word, "show-off" is never good.

[Albert1988]

That is, finally decided to make a normal plane instead of a hodgepodge of imported imported parts ...

[Sky strike fighter]

Life still taught that communicating with partners is more expensive.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Life still taught that communicating with partners is more expensive.

Of course, it is better late than never, but how much of this slag with wings has already come and ruined people?

Moreover, the main cut in the design of this aircraft was, therefore, it was simply grabbed the cheapest components available on the market and blinded ... Something slightly digestible happened, it looked a little like an airplane ...

[Sky strike fighter]

We will assume that the first pancake came out lumpy, and then they will take into account mistakes and do everything wisely. Someone had to fill up the bumps to understand what was happening. Let's hope for success. We need to revive the production of our civil aviation, taking into account its glorious traditions. Walking will overpower the road. The main thing that took up.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

We assume that the first pancake came out lumpy, and then they will take into account the mistakes and do everything wisely.

I really hope so!

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Someone had to fill up cones to understand what was happening.

It’s only a pity that some people didn’t understand at one time, and then they filled the cones - others ...

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

We need to revive the production of our civil aviation, taking into account its glorious traditions. The road will be overpowered by the going one. The main thing is that they got down to business.

Yes, it is generally needed as air! MS-21 so far only pleased in this area, but, thanks to the sanctions, they also took up this project! I hope to start developing more serious machines later!

[Sky strike fighter]

I hope to start developing more serious machines later!

Do you mean the IL-96-400M? It would be nice to create a modification of this aircraft with two PD-35s, but for objective reasons, until the engine does not think about it early. An interesting topic is the GHS (supersonic civilian aircraft). It’s a pity that it will not be too soon. And I would like the theme of supersonic civilian aircraft to revive in a new quality, so to speak. Oh dreams, dreams.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Do you mean IL-96-400M?

And him too.

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

It would be nice to create a modification of this aircraft with two PD-35s, but for objective reasons, until the engine makes it early to think about it.

Well, engines are generally a big topic for us, so let's hope that there are positive changes in this direction.

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

An interesting topic is the GHS (supersonic civilian aircraft).

In our case, alas, this is still a matter of a very distant future.

[Sky strike fighter]

What priorities would you identify in terms of the further development of civil aviation? What do we need to develop in the first place at a given time?

[Albert1988]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

What priorities would you identify in terms of the further development of civil aviation? What do we need to develop in the first place at a given time?

Well, you’re asking such questions directly, as if I were either the chief designer or the minister
My purely amateurish point of view - we now need cars like air primarily for domestic flights - with our territory this is already obtained as short-haul cars. But their medium-range aircraft also need to be developed. One must think about long-haul ones too. but the question is whether the industry is ready ...

[Sky strike fighter]

I see. IL-114-300, MS-21, and SSJ 100 are import-substituted. I think it’s all real. Later, the IL-96-400M with two PD-35.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

I see. IL-114-300, MS-21, and SSJ 100 are import-substituted. I think it’s all real. Later, the IL-96-400M with two PD-35.

And so let's hope that all this will be realized)))

[Aviator_]

The long-range project is now being done by us together with the Chinese

[Aviator_]

The GHS program is international, Russia is participating in it. I can’t pull my program, not those times.

[Rzzz]

It seems that the supersonic program was covered up, it was counted - there isn’t much sense in it. Although I could be wrong.

[Aviator_]

In the summer and autumn was still, and now the virus

[loki565]

Well, in electronics and automation this is our best aircraft, in some respects it surpasses even Boeing.

[Albert1988]

Quote: loki565

Well, in electronics and automation this is our best aircraft, in some respects it surpasses even Boeing.

The problem is that it is so roughly coarse that it is almost incapable of flying without breakdowns and emergency situations, and very serious ones. This opinion is not mine - at one time our pilot talked - in his words - no one likes superjets from pilots, and most of them cannot stand it for the very poor technical part.

[loki565]

According to statistics, all his accidents are caused by pilots; in electronics, he is similar to a watermelon.

[Albert1988]

Quote: loki565

According to statistics, all of his accidents caused by pilots

Well, how can I say - the pilot’s fault is that his landing gear is not designed to support his own weight? So do you have to plant it with shamanistic dances? Or does he have regular engine problems?

[loki565]

Well, how can I say - the pilot’s fault is that his landing gear is not designed to support his own weight? So do you have to plant it with shamanistic dances? Or does he have regular engine problems?

The pilot's fault is that he allowed a "goat" with overloads for which more than one aircraft in the world is not designed.
What do you mean about shamanistic dances? He can land completely automatically even with a strong crosswind, and the girls pilots are quite coping))) It looks like you just do not own the full information ...

[Albert1988]

Quote: loki565

The pilot's fault is that he allowed a "goat" with overloads for which more than one aircraft in the world is not designed.
What do you mean about shamanistic dances? He can land completely automatically even with a strong crosswind, and the girls pilots are quite coping))) It looks like you just do not own the full information ...

Respected! I was lucky to talk with a professional pilot, who, among other things, piloted and a superjet. So in his words - the car is very unsuccessful, it can sit in the automatic mode, just don’t have to do it - otherwise the landing gears may bend after a couple of flights and when exactly they will do it, even the designers of this miracle cannot predict. There was this conversation for a long time - about 5 years ago, maybe since that time there have been some radical improvements in the design, I do not know ...

[loki565]

Respected! I was lucky to talk with a professional pilot, who, among other things, piloted and a superjet. So in his words - the car is very unsuccessful, it can sit in the automatic mode, just don’t have to do it - otherwise the landing gears may bend after a couple of flights and when exactly they will do it, even the designers of this miracle cannot predict. There was this conversation for a long time - about 5 years ago, maybe since that time there have been some radical improvements in the design, I do not know ...

Do you have data on how much the chassis bent over the entire operation period, maybe a professional pilot told me? And then if after a couple of flights the chassis is changed as consumables, this is not enough money)))

[Albert1988]

Quote: loki565

Do you have data on how much the chassis bent over the entire operation period, maybe a professional pilot told me? And then if after a couple of flights the chassis is changed as consumables, this is not enough money)))

after a couple of times, of course not, but after a year or two of operation there is already a great risk of painfully "stumbling" upon landing ...

[Pavlik K.]

"Sit down in auto mode" .... Yes, so, change, but it is not destiny to sit down? , who are you - a pilot or an operator? !! In the course, when in LU GA (higher) they work out (whether) the Exercise - "Correction of errors at landing" (in which the same (the whiter-progressing))? Even in the second year (from FIVE), on the plane of the initial training, and then every year on flights this is repeated (and already on the jet, the main technique). There is a pilot error. Medical fact. Sometimes, the second did not insure, we are all not without sin ... The plane has nothing to do with it, forget it ...

[Pavlik K.]

... "can bend". Do not disgrace the forum, what kind of "professional pilot" could tell you such nonsense, give me the phone, just wondering where he was taught ...

[Albert1988]

Quote: Pavlik K.

give the phone, just wondering where he was taught ....

Firstly, you can’t give foreign phones without permission, and secondly, even if I wanted to, I wouldn’t give it because I don’t have it. As for the rest - a person flies on civil aviation for a very decent time. It was the father of my graduate student, when I hinted at his presence about the superjet - he was a very well-mannered man, except for obscene words about this one, as he put it in three obscene words - a kind of airplane, he could not say ...
So ...

[loki565]

Pilots very often scold technology and not always justified. So those who fly on watermelons scold the Boeing for primitiveness (in fact, the Boeing flies all the time in direct mode) and one feature associated with the elevator. And those who fly on a Boeing blamed the airbus for shared systics, etc. .. Someone Tu154 is the best aircraft in the world. Here is an interesting video of the pilot - Boeing 737 instructor

[Rzzz]

Denis Okan, well-known in online circles, spoke very positively about the superjet.
As for that accident, it’s visible on the video that his chassis didn’t break down, but because of the prohibitive overload (more than 5G), he had seams on the wing, and fuel from the caisson tanks surged out.

[Pavlik K.]

People forget (they simply don’t know, they don’t want to understand), progressive is already a phenomenon confirming the strength standards of technology (already at the second touch (this is the point of difference from a simple goat), overload is prohibitive for RLE, but not for the strength stock of designers).

[Pavlik K.]

Everything is much simpler. "Put the industry on its feet" ... Which one? Civil aircraft building? She is ? Further. Aviation is too difficult for the current system of Kremlin managers. In the glorious Soviet years (I wrote a lot about this) - there is one big question - engines ... They were not, no, I'm afraid they won't (even more so, the Ukrainians merged. And they had similar attempts to catch up with the west in the GTE. The same, you mentioned Be with hohlyatskie 136). There are two sore questions - T ("we are behind the turbine by 200-300 K in terms of gas temperature" - the phrase of the 1990s at all departments of HELL), and the blades .... Now the question is - Who (how, when, at whose expense - after) will this be done? In conditions where ANY civil aviation is essentially unprofitable, the western one hangs on cheap money, and our Kremlin goners with brains have a pipe, and with aplomb (well, all the former Troechnik-Komsomol members are essentially like that) - give a lot of money now, otherwise ....

[Free wind]

To a pilot, a tankman, an infantryman, or even a field kitchen kosher, an order can only be given by a commander or higher on command. Yeah, two pretzels come up to the pilot: there, this one, ordered the general, not a field marshal, you show me something. What a home for the insane. I decided this ...... to show its steepness and showed well. And whoever blames the design, nowhere and never has there been a word about it, or someone knows the isopian language. Stalin IV, suppressed such tricks tough and inexorably. With Chkalov B, then removed all ranks and awards, for hooliganism, for the passage under the bridge. Do you want to take a chance? scatter and beat your head against the wall.

[bober1982]

Quote: Free Wind

there you have this, ordered the general

No one ordered the pilot, the NKVD understood, it was a personal initiative of the pilot himself, at the request of his fellow journalists.

[knn54]

In 1938, the ANT-20 bis was built, equipped with new, more powerful M-34FRNV engines. This reduced the number of engines from eight to six.
The aircraft was named PS-124 (passenger aircraft 124 of the plant), its tests were successfully completed in 1939.
On December 14, 1942, the plane crashed 90 km from Tashkent due to violations by the crew of flight operation rules.

[75 Sergey]

Now, all the filmmakers fell

[reservist]

The I-5 pilot Blagin and all who were aboard Maxim Gorky died.

dead in a plane crash buried in Novodevichy cemetery

[Astra wild]

Quote: lonely

well ... because of the whims of two deceased, such a tragedy ..

Perhaps they made a fool of the head of the type commander: it will be a spectacular sight, for propaganda purposes, etc.

[Mwg]

Here is a vivid example of how the media through their actions harm people

[viktor_ui]

the workers of the film factory Ryazhsky and Pullin ... who were they, if they could give an order directly to the I-5 pilot? It is a pity that N. Blagin did not send them on a long erotic journey.

[lvov_aleksey]

how can such an article be admitted to publication !!! Some mistakes (spelling, syntax) !!!
rate:
"On May 18, 1935, the Ant-20 flew over Moscow, accompanied by a two-seat R-5 aircraft, where the film crew was located, and a single-seat I-5 fighter under the control of Nikolai Blagin. On board there were 11 crew members and 37 passengers, including six children.

The fighter performed a "loop" and at the top point above the "Maxim Gorky" lost control, crashing onto the Ant-20. The latter fell to pieces in the air, and then there was an explosion on the ground. I-5 pilot Blagin and everyone on board the Maxim Gorky perished.