Indian general: Impossible to win the war by importing foreign weapons

Representatives of the Indian generals decided to analyze the situation regarding the purchase by India of foreign weapons. Today, India is the world's largest arms market for foreign companies. New Delhi buys weapons from around the world, including Russia, France, the USA and others.

The fact that India continues to be the main importer of foreign weaponsworries some representatives of the Indian command.

According to Lieutenant General Harvant Singh, not a single country in the world exporting arms sells its most promising developments abroad. Export is carried out in relation to those weapons that are already actively used and for which either there is already something more modern, or it is expected to appear in the near future.

Harvant Singh:

No country exports weapons that are at the forefront of technology.

According to the Indian general, if a country is going to reliably ensure its security or win a likely war, then it should remember the need to provide its army with advanced weapons, and not seek to buy what has long been used abroad.

From the statement of the Indian general:

Countries that overlooked or rejected such important postulates for warfare ultimately paid a high price on the battlefield.

It is noted that other countries are improving military technology, while India, with dozens of defense enterprises and research laboratories, continues to provide itself with 70% of its imports of weapons.

Lieutenant General Singh:

But when importing weapons of the same technical level that a potential adversary may possess, it is strange to speak of superiority over them. You need to really look at such things.

According to the general, it is impossible to win the war by importing foreign weapons.

The general ultimately called for the reform and modernization of the Organization for Defense Research of India (DRDO) - so that it could get more opportunities to implement advanced developments that meet international standards.

Comments

[rotmistr60]

Unable to win the war by exporting foreign weapons

Yes, like Noah’s in the ark of each tvari pair. The general is right, but only restructuring will be not only difficult, but also financially costly. But these are Indian problems and let their head hurt.

[Insurgent]

Quote: rotmistr60

The general is right, but only restructuring will be not only difficult, but also financially costly. But these are Indian problems and let their head hurt.

Actually, what's the problem?
There are quite a few examples of how cooperation with Russia in the field of military-technical cooperation allowed the creation of localized production facilities in India. And this is not the limit, you just need to negotiate, not blow your lips.

West, cooperation on such conditions, will not offer you ...

[Shurik70]

The only ones with whom a full-scale war is possible in India are China and Pakistan.
In the case of China, it is better to give up immediately.
Pakistan is the same importer of weapons, it’s only more competent in its assortment, it does not make a hodgepodge.
Another thing is a world war without the use of atomic weapons (which is unlikely). Indeed, in a year it will remain without spare parts and new equipment.
It's just ... It's stupid to develop the military-industrial complex of other countries at your own expense.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Shurik70

It is foolish to develop the military-industrial complex of other countries at their own expense.

It’s even more stupid not to develop your own military-industrial complex at all, when a partner (Russia) offers you quite reasonable conditions.

[missuris]

Is Russia offering access to outdated technology? and incomplete localization, and the general drowns for the complete localization and development of new weapons. how the USSR in the 1930s before the war bought new German and American factories with technology.

[knn54]

And we have a headache when strategic enterprises "suddenly" find themselves in the hands of foreign enemies.
Yes, and theirs, with other citizenships. not better.

[avg]

According to Lieutenant General Harvant Singh, not a single country in the world exporting arms sells its most promising developments abroad.

Especially countries that conduct a policy both "ours and yours" and are always ready to seize the moment and exchange friendly relations for "oriental bazaar".

[Mavrikiy]

Unable to win the war by exporting foreign weapons

Stupidity. Israel, Vietnam, etc.

No country exports weapons that are at the forefront of technology

... We also offered participation in SU-57. "They themselves don't know what they want!"

[Same lech]

"They themselves don't know what they want!"

They know very well ... free weapons technology from their producing countries ... that's what they want.

[Volodin]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Nonsense. Israel, Vietnam, etc.

Well, Vietnam won the war solely on its own ... Yes, and Israel is without any support.
All by yourself, by yourself ...

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Volodin

Well, Vietnam won the war solely on its own ... Yes, and Israel is without any support.
All by yourself, by yourself ...

Seriously? Vietnam produced cannon tanks, he himself did not know everything ... Israel waged wars in the 50s with its tanks and planes. Less aplomb.

[Volodin]

Quote: Mavrikiy

their tanks and planes.

So it is precisely about this (such a need) that the Indian general speaks, as it were ...
And then at first he sort of argues with the general, then writes that Vietnam and Israel are exclusively "their own weapons." L - logic.

Quote: Mavrikiy

Less aplomb.

Exactly.

[Mavrikiy]

hi

Quote: Volodin

So it is precisely about this (such a need) that the Indian general speaks, as it were ...
And then at first he sort of argues with the general, then writes that Vietnam and Israel are exclusively "their own weapons." L - logic.

Vietnam and Israel won exclusively "with their own weapons".It's sarcasm. Vietnam and Israel did not have their weapons at all in the 50s. I was sure that you are in the know. And even now Israel is flying on state planes and is not steaming.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Seriously? Vietnam produced cannon tanks, he himself did not know everything ... Israel waged wars in the 50s with its tanks and planes. Less aplomb.

And between aplomb и sarcasm there are differences ?

[novel66]

aplomb does not allow to distinguish sarcasm

[Hto tama]

We also offered participation in SU-57. "They themselves do not know what they want!" [/ Quote]
They want, actually I agree with you, but creating a new one requires big investments, money and not only India prefers to buy ready-made, and they spoke unambiguously about returning to this program: first you bring everything to mind, and then we join (not verbatim), they want as in the cinema I danced, sang and u is ready

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Hto tama

"They themselves don't know what they want!"
They want, actually

Actually, "It can't be!"

[Courier]

When Su 57 crashed during tests, the accident was immediately classified, even from India.
The Indians asked for stealth, this is also a problem.
It is with India that Russia has the most successful experience of military cooperation. India does not steal technology, like the eastern brothers beloved here.
T90, Su-30MKI, Brahmos

[Volodin]

Quote: Courier

When Su 57 crashed during tests, the accident was immediately classified, even from India.

Why, then, do you know that the Su-57 crashed if "the accident was classified"?

Nobody secreted anything.

[Peter is not the first]

You can also recall our exported S-400, if you remember about the S-500, we do not have them in service yet, as well as the T-90 (again, there is no Armata platform in service). And the Americans are exporting F-35s, which are the very latest in their aircraft technology. You can also recall German submarines with VNEU or Israeli and Turkish drone.
So, the Indian general is right and wrong: To be fully armed, you need to produce advanced yourself, but in the world market you can also find advanced weapons.

[seregatara1969]

You might think that Afghanistan produces a lot of weapons.

[Insurgent]

Quote: seregatara1969

You might think that Afghanistan produces a lot of weapons.

So Afghanistan, occupied, and as a result of this is not a sovereign state ...

[Sahalinets]

He is certainly right, but ... how to name the programs Tejas or Arjun otherwise than as endless long-term construction, ending zilch? They need to fight here and now, and not after another reincarnation.

[Vladimir_2U]

The Indian hogwash will not say, he will dance it!

[novel66]

this is very flowery garbage!

[Hto tama]

The essence of the statements is understandable and generally not disputed, I have another question, about the war with whom is he talking? If with Pakistan, then there is also tight with his weapons, or is he talking about a potential war with China?

[Free wind]

In my opinion, as soon as something appears, we immediately drag it into the arms market.

[Demagogue]

No one phrase from the title

exporting foreign weapons

did not cause questions? Where does India export foreign equipment? They can’t even translate normally.

[Zeev Zeev]

To win by EXPORTING (i.e., exporting) foreign weapons is really very difficult. But if the weapons are IMPORTED (imported), then you can win. There are quite a few countries that won without their military industry (for example, Pakistan in 1948)

[Eug]

Probably, nevertheless, not exporting (as in the article), but importing ... if you are ready to bear the risks when designing really latest designs, then yes ... if you are not ready - repairs, components, system technologies, primarily metals and composites, and the training of engineering and scientific personnel, both at the research level and at the level of system-forming leaders (in the USSR they were called the Main and General), capable of translating research into suitable for use and production materiel ... All this is very costly and long , Russia is rolling along and Inertia, and to start all this even if not from 0, but not much ahead - oh, how much time, patience and money are needed .. This is not to cheat on negotiations, sometimes it’s not a sin to overpay - if this is concrete or rather promising benefit...

[A. Privalov]

Do not find fault with the little things. Do you know how many people confuse flora with fauna? A sinusitis with hemorrhoids?

[novel66]

and when the word "pendeltyur" precipitates

[A. Privalov]

Quote: novel xnumx

and when the word "pendeltyur" precipitates

I almost peeled off myself!
Türe is the door in German, I knew that. Pendel, as applied to Russian, also understood. But I had to climb and check, curiosity, you know ...

[novel66]

excellent quality of character

[A. Privalov]

I laugh myself.

[Tu-16]

The headline was confusing. Perhaps it would be more correct to "... import foreign weapons"? Otherwise, one can understand as if the Indians buy and then export to other countries. Or as an option "... by exploiting foreign weapons." It looks like a wrong translation.

[Avior]

The general about s-400 or su-57 or instant-35 did not hear?

. when importing weapons of the same technical level that a potential adversary may possess, it is strange to speak of superiority over them.

Maybe you need to buy weapons of a higher level, if you yourself do not produce it?

[Nikolaevich I]

Yoksel-moxel and a bow on the side! I still did not understand what the "Indian enaral" meant: exporting or importing weapons ?! What does the story tell? Wasn't there multiple victories of the Indian army over the Pakistani army thanks to the Soviet armament? And didn't the Israeli army fought successfully, being largely equipped with American weapons; as well as English and French !?

[steelmaker]

To do what you need, you need a different level of education. You have to start with this. And with us, with the support of Putin, soon from education one laugh and Rogozin trampolines will remain!

[barclay]

"According to the general, it’s impossible to win the war, by exporting foreign weapons"
And yet, probably "importing" ... Either the translation is not correct, or the general got confused.

[Ros 56]

Stupid general, let him study the history of land lease during the Second World War. Refuse completely from foreign arms supplies is not a gut.

[5-9]

Indians import substitution at home 30 years of all puppy forces twist ... the results are deplorable. It’s a good idea, of course, but they have a kirdyk with Arjuns and Tejas ... therefore, songs and dances in favor of the native defense industry are necessary, and it is necessary to buy Russian weapons, because they must die in the native-import-replaced Indian military, and not someone else

[Dmitry Zverev]

According to Lieutenant General Harvant Singh

An interesting fact is that the Indian army of the Sikhs (with the same surname Singh) occupy about 20% of all officer posts, while making up less than 2% of the country's population.
And for the murder of Indira Gandhi, they burn in hell. Let them use the worst penny weapons.

[Incvizitor]

When there is no normal armament, you have to import someone else's, in any other way.

[Vladimir SHajkin]

Why, he’s right.
There have been such incidents in the history of our country.

[Andrey Bespalov]

Exporting or importing? Decide what to write about and what you want to convey to people.