Japan-ordered modernized convertibles V-22 Osprey arrived in Iwakuni: named the purpose of buying from the United States

Shot video Katie Marcwold (Iwakuni base, Japan)

The first two V-22 Osprey convertiplanes of the five previously ordered arrived in Japan. Convertibles for Japan’s self-defense forces are being built at the joint venture of Bell and Boeing in Texas and Pennsylvania.

They were delivered by sea to Ivakuni base.

Previously, Japanese pilots were trained in the management of US-made convertiplanes on the basis of the US Marine Corps New River in North Carolina.

It is known that we are talking about upgraded versions aviation - CV V-22, which includes an upgraded radar, advanced monitors in the cockpit.

Thus, Japan becomes the first foreign buyer of such convertiplanes for the United States. The total contract value for five CV V-22 (CV-22M) is $ 332 million. From this we can conclude about the unit price. It is 66,4 million US dollars.

Earlier in Japan, when asked by journalists about the purpose of acquiring Osprey convertiplanes from the United States, they gave the following plan:

They will be stationed at the Kisarazu airfield near Tokyo. It houses the 1st Self-Defense Forces Helicopter Brigade of Japan and a maintenance center, part of the US Marine Corps. Convertibles will help improve the country's security, reach a new level in the use of landing on land and at sea, and protect Japanese sovereignty.

Initially, the Japanese Self-Defense Forces Command planned to deploy tiltrotor planes at one of the bases of southern Ryukyu Prefecture.

The designated goal is to protect the sovereignty of the southern Japanese islands (a hint of the Senkaku-Diaoyu-dao islands in the East China Sea disputed with China). However, local residents protested, saying that they have enough noise and American convertiplanes.

Subsequently, it is planned to place convertiplanes on helicopter carriers of the Izumo type. It is noteworthy that earlier on the same warships in Japan they were going to place F-35B fighters.

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[cost]

V-22 Osprey tiltrotables are planned to be deployed on Izumo-type helicopter carriers

Izumo-class destroyers

Country - Japan
Japan Naval Self-Defense Operators
Years of construction 2012 - present
Years in service 2015 - present
Scheduled by 2
Built 2
In service 2
TTH:
Displacement 19 500 tons (standard), 27 000 tons (full)
Length 248,0 m
Width 38,0 m
Height 23,5 m
Precipitation 7,5 m
Engines Combined gas turbine, 4 turbines General Electric LM2500
Power 112 000 l. with. (82,4 MW)
2 screw propeller
30 nodes travel speed
Crew 470 man (970 along with the landing force)
weaponry
Radar equipment radar OPS-28 and OPS-50, GUS OQQ-23
Electronic armament BIUS OYQ-12, electronic warfare station NOLQ-3D-1
Anti-aircraft artillery 2 × 6 - 20 mm ZAK Mark 15 Phalanx CIWS
2 rocket armament × SeaRAM SAM
Aviation group up to 14 SH-60K SeaHawk helicopters, up to 28 aircraft in total (helicopters, convertiplanes, fighters)
photo SH-60 Seahawk / S-70B

Modifications:
SH-60B Seahawk - the basic modification of the deck anti-submarine helicopter, which won the LAMPS in September 1977.
CS-70 Fathawk (“Fat Hawk”) - SH-60B variant with an increased fuselage of increased capacity
SH-60F Ocean Hawk - deck anti-submarine helicopter for carrying out operations to cover aircraft carriers within a radius of 50 km; Designed to replace Sikorsky S-61 Sea King helicopters.
SH-60J Sea Hawk - Japan’s deck-mounted self-defense helicopter for the replacement of Sikorsky S-61 Sea King helicopters.
HH-60H Seahawk - deck search and rescue helicopter.
MH-60S Knighthawk
MH-60R Seahawk - an anti-submarine helicopter with a low-powered helicopter, the development of SH-60V and SH-60F.
S-70B - export modification of the SH-60B helicopter.
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[certero]

What little destroyers :)

[Mavrikiy]

Congratulations to the Japanese. For 5 years, the United States lost 11 envelopes.

November 9, 2017 - Secretary General of the Japanese Cabinet Yoshihide Suga demanded that the United States ensure an adequate level of safety for convertiplanes used by the US Marine Corps

against the background of data that they are highly accidental.

[ZaDedov]

More dead cows for joy

[Avior]

Only not for five, but for 29 years.
There were no accidents after 2017.

[Cowbra]

Or so you can still say ....

Senator John McCain:
The V-22 looks great ... when it’s not idle for repairs.

[Tuesday]

In fact, much more. They have a state program for suppressing and distorting losses that has been working for more than a decade.

[rotmistr60]

to reach a new level in the use of landing on land and at sea, to protect Japanese sovereignty.

Where from the sea can Japan use troops? Only for landing from helicopter carriers on the coast of the DPRK and of course the Kuriles, which they have been sleeping and seeing as their own for 75 years. T.N. The "self-defense forces" have long been transformed into a well-equipped and not a small regular army, which was prohibited by Japan's 1945 treaty. The United States welcomes the militarization of Japan and the latter take advantage of it. This means that the defeat of the Kwantung Army began to be forgotten, and this is bad.

[Avior]

which under the contract of 1945, Japan was banned.

Not certainly in that way
not by agreement, but by their Japanese constitution of 1947, participation in military conflicts is prohibited.
This is their inner self-restraint.
In fact, they have already bypassed it.

In December 2012, the government approved a draft large-scale reform of the armed forces, which provides for the renaming of the self-defense forces of Japan in the army; empowerment of the army to strike at enemy bases; creation of a marine corps; improving the effectiveness of the missile defense system; US purchases of additional weapons (in particular, amphibians AAV-7 and V-22 convertiplanes) [26] of national defense.

In January 2014, the Government of Japan announced its intention to create a marine corps unit (the initial number of units was determined to be 3 troops) [27]

On September 19, 2015, the Japanese parliament allowed the use of the Self-Defense Forces to participate in military conflicts abroad [28].

In May 2017, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe set a deadline for revision of Article 9 of the Constitution until 2020, which would legitimize the Japanese Self-Defense Forces.

[rotmistr60]

You're right. It is precisely 1945 that sits firmly in my head, and therefore a typo.

[Avior]

1945 g sits firmly in my head

Perhaps because in 1945 they surrendered the army they had by surrender.
But there was no fundamental ban on creating a new one there.

[Avior]

while others are planning an aircraft carrier of 100000 tons and no less, the Japanese are acquiring, if not so large, but universal aircraft carriers.

[Cowbra]

HELICOPTER-BEARING. Even with the F-35 the big question is whether they’ll fit in, and if they get in, then why the hell if even the United States ILC refused such joy as the F-35? So not the AV carriers.

[Avior]

Even with the F-35 the big question is - they’ll fit in

I think the roulette of these Japanese people was at least found, measured?

The Ministry of Defense of Japan approved a procurement plan for F-35B fighter with short take-off and vertical landing from Lockheed Martin Corporation (USA). This was reported on the website of the department.

Aircraft meet all the necessary requirements of a “short-range air force fighter and vertical landing,” the Defense Ministry said in a statement.

The budget for fiscal year 2020 2020 (April 2021 - March 35) provides for the purchase of six F-2023Bs, by 18 the number of fighters will increase to XNUMX. ...
It is specified that Japan buys F-35B fighters from the USA for the Izumo and Kaga aircraft carriers. A total of 42 such aircraft will be purchased for the needs of the Japanese Self-Defense Forces.

two "destroyers" - 42 aircraft, 21 each for "destroyer". Well, maybe they take it with a margin, who knows .

[Cowbra]

Quote: Avior

I think the roulette of these Japanese people was at least found, measured?

For example, a Boeing - could not be found - is trying to shove tanks that do not fit into the tanker. Which year. Do you think the Japanese are smarter? With attempts to buy a deck, which was abandoned even at home ?!
Even with these Ospreys - b-alshy question - the United States is also changing them, but the Japanese needed them. What a tape measure, it is too difficult for slaves - they have to measure with their fingers. "Forty plus forty is a ruble forty! - That's right, hazyain!"

[Vasily Ponomarev]

> abandoned even at home
where you read this nonsense, you can give a link

[Cowbra]

In Google, and the link will be in including.

[Avior]

Do you think the Japanese are smarter?

I think not dumber.

Even with these Osprey - ba-alshoy question - the United States also changes them

They change, but not Osprey, but Osprey.
The fleet is changing the standard S-2 Greyhound to Osprey transport aircraft carrier.

The United States Navy received the first CMV-22B tiltrotor transport, the machine passed all the necessary tests. It is reported by Flightglobal.
According to the publication, this is the first tiltrotor of forty-eight ordered by the US Navy. According to previously announced plans, the first production CMV-22B should go to the U.S. Navy in 2021.
The CMV-22B transport tiltrotor was developed by order of the U.S. Navy based on the V-22 Osprey tiltrotor and is expected to replace the outdated C-2A Greyhound carrier-based transport planes.

https://topwar.ru/167782-vms-ssha-poluchili-pervyj-transportnyj-konvertoplan-cmv-22b.html
From Osprey not only do not refuse, but also expand the scope for them.
And of course, the KMP does not refuse from the F-35V ...

[Cowbra]

Well, yes, I just refused to buy 100 of these "little drystuns", but that's fine. And who changes whom - I realized that the new tiltrotor is being developed because the old one is very good!
In general, with this destroyer there is an interesting crap:

Variant of alteration into catapult ones from General Atomics. F-35-Bue catapults are not needed, even harmful - the racks are unlikely to withstand the vertical

[Avior]

Funny picture
The Japanese still have order with their brains, they didn’t even consider
Or is it from Falout 4 just?
And things are getting better with the ILC, they completely refuse, in this post already from 100, then they simply agree

[Cowbra]

No, there is exactly the opposite. It is at first that there is a reduction, and it is the ILC that originally ordered the JSF program itself, then the ILC along the way will do without them at all. And against this background, fun with the "smooth" F-35:

It seems that problems with the F-35 are starting to roll over with the growing crisis: the Pentagon announced yesterday a new contract for the purchase of engines for the F-35B at a price 15% higher than six months ago. This is after almost five years of struggle for a “decline” to an average price for a fighter of less than $ 100 million. It was important to achieve at least a reduction on paper, since the program hung in the balance for a long time and was criticized in full. As a result, the Pentagon used a simple trick to display “beautiful” numbers - at first another price reduction was announced when a contract was signed for the next series of fighter aircraft, and then the contracts, spread over a thin layer for two to three years, were quietly “re-signed”. For example, Koreans who bought 40 F-35A recently signed an “additional” contract for more than $ 600 million - the total cost per unit reached almost 200 million!
It is possible that the price increase specifically for the F-35B model is associated with the decision of the Marine Corps to refuse to purchase 100 of these fighters (an almost unthinkable thing three years ago). The engine there is specific, with a "fan", and expensive. So now the prices for the “vertical line” for the fleets of customer countries - Britain, Japan, Italy will grow at a very unpredictable pace. By the way, Italians have long been a “wolf” looking at the JSF program and staying there only because of a small factory for the assembly of a fighter. The likelihood of refusing further orders amid the crisis and rising aircraft prices is very high, which will add even more problems to the JSF program ...

And about the aircraft carrier - the Japanese wanted to redo, the contractors and podsoyutilis. But there they really smoked - especially pleased with the placement of Hokkaev)))

[Avior]

I suspect this is one of the XNUMXth-grader mastered Photoshop images that are scattered around the forums.
The plane on the right catapult looks especially funny; upon departure, three others will be hit.
And given that the Japanese allegedly ordered the project to a company that specializes in nuclear reactors, this looks doubly funny.
Nobody seems to have seen the source of this image.
And what the Japanese are planning is visible by their order.
And, by the way, the quote from you, as Kharaluzhny wrote, is nothing on the case, but to drop everything off at once.
Who knows why the Koreans expanded the contract - no one writes that this is due to the price of the aircraft

[Cowbra]

However, commented pretty much.
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/japan/22ddh-aircraft-carrier.htm
Google it for the name of the photo - dofiga. Two "dristuns" on catapults touch with their wings, Hokkai, even in the photo, does not climb into an airplane lift ...
And who ordered it. Pfe - this is just the norm for mattresses. Westinghouse did not know how to build a nuclear power plant! But she did. They make assemblies and a little - software, built 1500 ( ) subcontractors from all over the world under the wise guidance of these Gausses) Naturally, to this day nichrome and not built anywhere

[Avior]

So there the catapults are also electromagnetic, it turns out :)
They write that Atomics itself proposed this option in the fall of 2019, and not the Japanese hakazali
Given the fact that the Japanese ordered f-35v long before that, the conclusion is that the son of the owner of Atomics mastered the computer, exercises

[Cowbra]

There, the Japanese just in the above article wrote that they most likely sell us to sell catapults - they don’t buy them

[voyaka uh]

Two helicopter carriers will be converted into light aircraft carriers.

On 18 December 2018, the Japanese Cabinet gave approval to modify the Izumo class
into de facto aircraft carriers. The modifications will reinforce the decks of the Izumo-class
ships to support the additional weight of F-35B, as well as the heat and forces from the jets
during vertical landing