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Gozman: Losses of the USSR in the war cannot justify Stalin’s pre-war cooperation with Hitler

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On the eve of Victory Day, Leonid Gozman, a well-known politician of ultra-liberal orientation, burst out with material in which he decided to “analyze” to a certain extent the data on the victims of the Great Patriotic War in the USSR and whether Soviet citizens voluntarily or involuntarily went to the front. The material was published on the blog on the website of the Echo of Moscow radio station.


Gozman began by expressing gratitude to Vladimir Putin’s father and “hundreds of thousands of such citizens” who refused “armor” (at the enterprises) and went to the front. After this, the politician declares that Putin’s words about voluntarily sending his father to the front are an attempt to declare that it was not the state that sacrificed its citizens in the name of victory, but that the people themselves voluntarily and knowingly made sacrifices.

Gozman states that the multimillion-dollar loss of the Soviet Union in the war against Nazi Germany “cannot justify the pre-war cooperation of Stalin with Hitler and the expansionism of the USSR in the post-war years.”

In addition, Gozman writes that monstrous losses could have been avoided if, for example, the inhabitants of Leningrad were evacuated.
And Gozman “crowns” his material with the phrase that May 9 does not need salutes, but care for veterans. Apparently, according to Gozman, it is impossible to combine fireworks in honor of the Great Victory with care for veterans ...

As you can see, in his publication, Mr. Gozman decided to try on the tunic of the supreme commander of the times of World War II. Who else, if not Gozman from 2020, should know what the state and the army had to do in 1941 ... Who else, if not Gozman in 2020, should give an assessment to the "expansionism of the USSR" ... The politician is so categorical and decisive, like any mature liberal, precisely because he is in 2020, and the people he talks about made decisions in the 30s and 40s. And where would Leonid Gozman be today, if those decisions were not made, an open question.
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    1. Walrus fang
      Walrus fang 9 May 2020 07: 50 New
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      Well, the grandchildren of the "veterans of the Tashkent front" began to sprinkle poisonous saliva out of hatred .. How many of them are now crawling out of the burrows of hamsters to spit in our souls and dive into the cache again ..
      It was not in vain that Stalin carried out stripping operations .. And before death he wanted to, but did not have time ..
      1. mig29mks
        mig29mks 9 May 2020 08: 10 New
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        They have, as always, “if, yes, as it were.” here’s something new from Gozman, it was necessary to send him to the war, although the whole country has risen, but his Gozman’s seed of doubt must be sown !!! What else do these gozmans think before ????
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 9 May 2020 09: 23 New
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          Russian liberals have done EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to drive into poverty and inhuman living conditions not only veterans, but the entire population of Russia (except for the "separately gifted"), who created "grace" for themselves at our expense, and now all of us are in this reproached.
          But in vain they do so: the bolder they attack us today, the more cruel our response to the liberoids will be when the power comes to the inevitable and politically inevitable moment of a change in the political, economic and socio-financial paradigms of the country's further movement.
          1. Sergo go
            Sergo go 9 May 2020 09: 46 New
            -30
            were liberals in power? the last 20 years there, the gdp has been sitting out, with its own hands everything is falling apart
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                      1. SOVIET UNION 2
                        SOVIET UNION 2 9 May 2020 13: 14 New
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                        Russian site! He does not justify Gozman. The site shows that there are those who are not interested in the interests of Russia. Although they hide behind caring for the country. These caring persons served both the White Guards and the Nazis, and serve modern capital. The enemy must be known in person, by last name, first name and patronymic! Otherwise, these caring ones will show their next care as in the 90s.
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                      3. SOVIET UNION 2
                        SOVIET UNION 2 9 May 2020 14: 16 New
                        +7
                        Return flags I think is not a problem. It is possible in the profile so as not to confuse the Soviet flag with the Chinese on a small avatar. Add pepper can designate party sympathies or views on the desired political system. Someone for the monarchy, someone for joining the British Empire as a colony, someone for joining Russia into Israel, and so on. While on the site there are clearly supporters of monarchy, socialism and capitalism (globalization). Why are the numbers of VO visitors thinning? Someone went into a ban, someone was tired of empty talk (you can’t do anything really. Just hit the clave.), Once, someone was not interested, and so on. Everyone has their own reasons. What slides the negative towards the Ukrainians and Israelis is more likely from hopelessness. It’s unpleasant when foreigners poke you in the mud. Faberge is not Faberge, but the site needs to stay afloat and for buoyancy it is necessary to rely on different watercraft. And so a bunch of articles on various topics comes out! Although political articles in my opinion cause maximum excitement! But then there is its own ambush. After all, they can attract for seditious article. On the article on the fight against fakes and insults to the authorities. hi
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                      8. hydrox
                        hydrox 9 May 2020 22: 21 New
                        +4
                        Site Registered :: Site IP: 104.24.31.51 Country: United States United States
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                      11. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 10 May 2020 03: 38 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Spectrum
                        The site's administration made a fatal mistake by throwing this mutota on public display on the day of the Great Victory. Probably the owner of the resource (more precisely, those who stand above him) "macaronovirus" ate their brains and they felt their victory. You have to crap so fluidly.

                        Do you think the site administration needs to introduce strict censorship? I don’t think so, let different people speak out, with different points of view on any issues, and we will argue, express our "points of view". Or do you think that only the "official point of view" should be expressed? I do not even want to comment on this nonsense of Goizman, but the question is that what he said is the point of view of our government. The main thing is that Europe and America are praised, and the most important is that the results of privatization are not revised. And for this, the achievements that were under the USSR must be trampled into the mud.
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              2. Smirnov Vadim
                Smirnov Vadim 11 May 2020 05: 33 New
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                FOR ESPECIALLY SMART! Likbez.

                1. The site has been located on the Mile.ru servers for several years. Where these servers are located for us on the drum (even on the moon), the main thing is that the site does not freeze and is adequate for the money.

                2. Previously, the server rental agreement was with another Russian company. They had lease agreements with data centers in Europe and the USA. And the IP was accordingly tied to Germany, then to the USA.

                3. And there is also a server for swapping pictures (since they weigh the most), these servers are located all over the world and at any moment the left IP (of any country in the world) may be displayed, a server less loaded at the moment. This is the third.

                THE MAIN THING THE SITE DOES NOT DEPEND ON !!!
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 9 May 2020 21: 03 New
        -1
        Yesterday, Khazin appeared on YouTube and warned that the change in the power paradigm was left to wait for a very short time.
        https://oko-planet.su/politik/politiklist/586129-ubozhestvo-kabineta-ministrov-mihail-hazin.html
        "The squalor of the cabinet of ministers" - may not hold out here for long!
  2. Rzzz
    Rzzz 9 May 2020 14: 47 New
    +1
    Quote: Spectrum
    . Now there is an undeclared hybrid war between Saxons and Russia

    Yes, good already. Saxons sit in the auditorium and eat popcorn, looking at how we ruin our country on our own.
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  7. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 9 May 2020 21: 01 New
    +6
    Quote: Spectrum
    This cross-eyed cheap thing (of the middle kind) is a liar and a scumbag. Now there is an undeclared hybrid war between the Saxons and Russia initiated by the West. Jackal declared Russia its enemy. And judge this scum according to the laws of war - a life sentence without the right to amnesty. There is more harm from them than from the military invasion of the enemy.
    Site administration, when will you put an equal sign between Russophobia and anti-Semitism? Or are you not Russian citizens? The justification of this traitor to his homeland is perceived as the promotion of ideology from the promised land - i.e. the destruction of Russia. Is the site exactly Russian?
    Well it is necessary to arrange such a trick on Victory Day!

    When you will already understand that no "Saxons" are to blame for our problems. Those who privatized our Motherland and have been in power for 30 years are to blame. Who hung the memorial plaque for Mannerheim, Saxons? Who erected the monument to Krasnov? Who is pushing Solzhenitsin to our children? This most conventional "goizman" is our power today. The most important thing for our current government is not to allow a revision of the results of privatization and continue to rob our people.
  8. Range
    Range 10 May 2020 01: 39 New
    -1
    Who manages those listed by you? Jesus Christ? Do not play around. This cunning substitution of concepts with beautiful expressions is no longer rolling. You want with your resourcefulness to shield the main organizers of troubles on Planet Earth. Will not work! Yes, USAkali is just a tool in the hands of lobbyists from the Promised Land. But the instrument began to rust and strategic mistakes went even among their "whisperers".
  9. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 10 May 2020 03: 17 New
    +3
    Quote: Spectrum
    And who controls the ones you listed?

    Money. Only money, no nationality is taken into account, "There is no such crime that capital would not go for 300% of the profit" this idea was first expressed by Thomas Joseph Dunning, a British trade union activist.
    Quote: Spectrum
    Do not bother. This cunning substitution of concepts with beautiful expressions no longer rolls.

    What kind of substitution of concepts are we talking about?
    Quote: Spectrum
    You want to fence off the main organizers of misfortunes on Planet Earth with your resourcefulness.

    Yesterday the "main organizers of troubles" were the British, today they are the Americans. And who were the "main troublemakers" for ancient Egypt? (hint: Libyans) And for ancient Rome? (hint: Carthaginians) In my opinion, "the main organizers of troubles", in any state, is its own oligarchy, and it has no nationality.
  10. hydrox
    hydrox 10 May 2020 08: 53 New
    +1
    Do not forget, just in case, to take a screenshot of all comments that may cause rejection from Smirnov Publisher.
  11. nznz
    nznz 10 May 2020 20: 07 New
    +1
    Saxons ??? where are they from? maybe the Anglo-Saxons?
  • aglet
    aglet 9 May 2020 10: 37 New
    +2
    and who is he? he himself admitted in due time
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  • Cottodraton
    Cottodraton 9 May 2020 12: 34 New
    +6
    Come on!) From 91 to 98, this whole shobla ruled the country. It was then that everything was destroyed. And the "saints of the 90s" are just their offspring). There was no smell of Putin then
    1. Courier
      Courier 9 May 2020 12: 38 New
      +4
      And who was respected by the deputy sobchak?
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 10 May 2020 05: 00 New
        +4
        You might as well ask who was the janitor in Smolny at that time - and what would this knowledge give you? laughing
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 10 May 2020 07: 09 New
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        But what, Sobchak was the President at that time, so that the people take into account the opinion of his deputy?
  • Consul
    Consul 9 May 2020 16: 06 New
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    Quote: Sergo Go
    were liberals in power?

    Liberals have been in power for 30 years.
  • 4ekist
    4ekist 10 May 2020 10: 33 New
    0
    Say thank you to the GDP that such "figures" as Gozman are still free.
  • Whiteidol
    Whiteidol 10 May 2020 13: 44 New
    +4
    Do not suffer. Sell ​​everything and leave soon to the country of eternal democracy. (Before that, I recommend reading the last opus of Durov for reading). There you will be met and understood.
  • iouris
    iouris 10 May 2020 19: 44 New
    0
    Quote: Sergo Go
    were liberals in power?

    Power belongs to the "liberals", and who is "in power" is the tenth thing.
  • Sergo go
    Sergo go 14 June 2020 20: 28 New
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    in any case, Putin controls everything, all the degradation under his control
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 9 May 2020 11: 13 New
    -6
    Quote: hydrox
    Russian liberals have done EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to drive into poverty and inhuman living conditions not only veterans, but the entire population of Russia (except for the "separately gifted"),

    About conspiracy theories, etc., I won’t talk ... but take a look at the video simply and thoughtfully.

    And this is a real filming on a mobile phone at a private concert of Cord at our bureaucrats high ...

    So that you understand what it is all about, look for info about ADRINOCHROME.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 9 May 2020 11: 15 New
      +3
      Live broadcast from Minsk!
      https://youtu.be/Lwo6KXFQTBY
    2. silberwolf88
      silberwolf88 9 May 2020 11: 24 New
      +8
      never quote the cord ... a very cunning businessman ... if you want to make sure you watch the interview of the reminded and tuned Shnurov at Tina Kandelaki ... I think the questions on him will disappear by themselves ...
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 9 May 2020 11: 38 New
        -5
        Quote: silberwolf88
        never quote the cord ... a very cunning businessman ... if you want to make sure you watch the interview of the reminded and tuned Shnurov at Tina Kandelaki ... I think the questions on him will disappear by themselves ...

        I don’t quote him ... he wasn’t alone at that party and the fact remains ... these bureaucrats glow in the dark.
        You watch the movie itself, and do not cling to quotes.
        1. Sergo go
          Sergo go 9 May 2020 11: 41 New
          +6
          there is such a word - fake, cord - showman, artist, buffoon - push this off
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 9 May 2020 12: 00 New
            0
            Quote: Sergo Go
            there is such a word - fake, cord - showman, artist, buffoon - push this off

            Why did you cling to the Cord then how are the children small? You take a look at the movie itself, and then strain and look for the info yourself.
            1. Cottodraton
              Cottodraton 9 May 2020 12: 37 New
              +5
              You, like my sister, developed paranoia against the background of the "quarantine". Come on, burn about "Saint Trump" who rushes through the dungeons and catches vampires.
              I saw this schiz ... honestly, of all conspiracy theories, this is the most schizophrenic and ridiculous
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 9 May 2020 13: 17 New
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                Quote: Cottodraton
                You, like my sister, developed paranoia against the background of the "quarantine". Come on, burn about "Saint Trump" who rushes through the dungeons and catches vampires.
                I saw this schiz ... honestly, of all conspiracy theories, this is the most schizophrenic and ridiculous

                I don’t know about schizo, dear ... but ... let me ask you a simple question - why do hundreds of thousands of children around the world disappear every year? And if they just disappear, why can't they be found? Well adekvasha, burn!
              2. Cottodraton
                Cottodraton 10 May 2020 22: 31 New
                0
                And you personally counted them, the entire "hundred thousand" or did you tell it on the same resources?) They also say that the Earth is that ... flat!) And they hide it too!))
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 9 May 2020 12: 26 New
          0
          Quote: Sergo Go
          there is such a word - fake, cord - showman, artist, buffoon - push this off

          But what if I tell you that in the USA, Italy and in some places there are still monuments to Satan?

          Monument to Satan in Oklahoma

          Detroit...

          Арканзас

          Little Rock, Arizona ...

          Lucifer Museum in the Vatican.
          By the way, the Vatican’s telescope is called Lucifer.
          Enough for you?
          1. Sergo go
            Sergo go 9 May 2020 12: 54 New
            +2
            business, money is made from people's weaknesses
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 9 May 2020 13: 00 New
              -1
              Quote: Sergo Go
              business, money is made from people's weaknesses

              And what about weaknesses and business? That is, you didn’t even bother to watch the movie ... stupidly saw the Cord and let's put on and sculpt minus ...
              I’m shocked at how lazy people became ...
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            3. NEXUS
              NEXUS 9 May 2020 14: 29 New
              -1
              Quote: Sergo Go
              movies for grandmothers

              Here, too, the "grandmother" already speaks in the forehead ... only here many have foreheads like rams and they do not even want to stop and think a bit. This is so for a minute boxer David Rodriguez.
      2. Finches
        Finches 9 May 2020 13: 13 New
        +3
        Anglo-Saxons - everything from the devil! Smart people know about it from the cradle!
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 9 May 2020 13: 15 New
          0
          Quote: Finches
          Anglo-Saxons - everything from the devil! Smart people know about it from the cradle!

          Not the Anglo-Saxons, but the elites ... ordinary people there do not need it for nothing ... take the time and watch the movie. There are many FACTS about which our clever people here, who do not watch grandmother’s films, didn’t even think of it.
        2. NIKN
          NIKN 9 May 2020 17: 00 New
          +4
          Quote: Finches
          Anglo-Saxons - everything from the devil! Smart people know about it from the cradle!

          You will be surprised, but this topic (which is in the title, about Stalin's cooperation with Hitler) was "debunked" (well, you can say) by Churchill in his three-volume book "World War II" (everything is there in chronological order) and in the same place Churchill writes in plain text, that they made a big mess with concessions to Hitler and through their fault (Poland there generally rested with a horn and ran into it) and in fact
          provoked (promoted, given away) to Hitler Europe and literally forced Stalin to conclude an alliance with Hitler. And he clearly justifies bluntly the conclusion of this alliance, because, thanks to the policies of the other defendants, Stalin was simply not given another chance ... In general, it is better to read the book in the public domain.
  • Hog
    Hog 9 May 2020 12: 54 New
    0
    After using the NVD, the eyes also glow, so what?
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 10 May 2020 12: 14 New
    +2
    "These bureaucrats have eyes that glow in the dark." ////
    ----
    Duc, this chip is wired to the brain. am There are light bulbs on it, and they
    glow through the eyes. And for some, even from the ears they shine,
    if you look closely in the dark. Do not confuse with reptilians with Nabir -
    their eyes shine naturally.
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 9 May 2020 12: 15 New
    -1
    Continuation, the 6th film ...
  • krillon
    krillon 9 May 2020 16: 32 New
    +1
    Putin in an interview called himself an adherent of liberal ideas and? What conclusion? One field of berries. I didn’t delve into much what Gozman’s personality was. What is he wrong about? The veterans of defeated Germany live in much better conditions, right?
  • MrFox
    MrFox 10 May 2020 14: 39 New
    +1
    Deputy Politician. 20 years already to these tales about a paradigm shift, with loud champing the power of those who hold
  • Consul
    Consul 9 May 2020 16: 05 New
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    Quote: mig29mks
    What else do these gozmans think before ????

    They have already done everything to expose the history of our country in an inappropriate form. For such gozman here there is nothing sacred except admiration for the Western masters.
  • Nikolay Ivanov_5
    Nikolay Ivanov_5 10 May 2020 14: 21 New
    +3
    Foolish Russophobe Gozman, a member of the public council of the Russian Jewish Congress, believes that if the Nazis won the war, then he now had a good life. How can this organization have such a frame on the board of directors?
  • knn54
    knn54 9 May 2020 08: 16 New
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    -And where would Leonid Gozman be today, if those decisions were not made, an open question.
    The ISRAELI newspaper "Vesti" (2002) published a DEADLINE article about 150 thousand Jewish soldiers and officers who fought in the Nazi army.
    For example, Colonel Walter Hollander, whose mother was Jewish, received a personal letter from Hitler, in which the Fuehrer certified his Aryanism. The same certificates of "German blood" were signed by Hitler for dozens of high-ranking officers of Jewish origin, including 23 colonels, 5 major generals, 8 lieutenant generals and two full generals.
    During the war years, Hollander was awarded the Iron Crosses of both degrees and a rare distinction - the German Gold Cross. In 1943, he received a Knight's Cross, when his anti-tank brigade in one battle destroyed a Soviet tank on the Kursk Bullet 21.
    As one 100% Jewish soldier of the Waffen-SS said: "The Jewish community also turns its back on people like me. Our stories contradict everything that is used to being considered the Holocaust."
    1. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 9 May 2020 09: 40 New
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      Quote: knn54
      As one 100% Jewish soldier of the Waffen-SS said: "The Jewish community also turns its back on people like me. Our stories contradict everything that is used to being considered the Holocaust."

      + 100%, as I wrote more than once on the villages of VO, near Voronezh, not far from Borisoglebsk, there was a concentration camp in which the Wehrmacht soldiers were, and the vast majority were Jews, then the Romanians and Germans went .... everything is in the archives and all the Jews from Israel just don’t really like it, but it’s a fact and why our people don’t publish it ?? .... question ....
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 9 May 2020 11: 57 New
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        Ours is not allowed to publish it, because - as they have in power. The Internet, the only platform for voicing such facts.
        All nations were divided in BB-2. Jews fought in the Wehrmacht, as did the Indians and Russians. About Ukrainians and Balts and remember to nothing.
        Gozmans will beat at one point not tiredly and methodically. And they will achieve their goal, with the departure from politics of the bourgeois, but nevertheless, people born in the USSR. The next ones will not look for clamps, they have no fear. They were brought up by the West and they do not have the feeling of the Motherland as a unity of people. These makaroshkas will bury the country by selling for Western nishtyaks. Putin and co are well aware that victory in the Second World War is the last thing that unites the nation.
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 9 May 2020 14: 27 New
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        Quote: Tiksi-3

        + 100%, as I wrote more than once on the villages of VO, near Voronezh, not far from Borisoglebsk, there was a concentration camp in which the Wehrmacht soldiers were, and the vast majority were Jews, then the Romanians and Germans went .... everything is in the archives and all the Jews from Israel just don’t really like it, but it’s a fact and why our people don’t publish it ?? .... question ....

        lol And their tanks were Merkavas, and the blood of the Romanian and German Unterofitskroa was added to the matzo fellow
        1. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 10 May 2020 07: 59 New
          +3
          Quote: Krasnodar
          And their tanks were Merkavas,

          Come to Voronezh, I'll arrange a passage for you in the archive, maybe your eyes will open slightly, although for those who are stubborn even in the eyes - all of God's dew
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 10 May 2020 13: 27 New
            -1
            I will be in Voronezh - not a question laughing
            Maybe they were there after all?
            Since 1941, Jews were forcibly recruited into labor groups (the so-called "labor battalions") In addition to the Jews of Hungary, Jews from the regions of Slovakia, Romania and Yugoslavia occupied by Hungary were also included in these units. “Labor battalions” were sent to forced labor on the Eastern Front as part of the Hungarian army, and their families remained as hostages [6]. Of the 50 Jews drafted into these units, about 40 died, and these units were used as "suicide bombers" (for example, for minefield passages) and their return to their homeland was not planned
            1. Tiksi-3
              Tiksi-3 11 May 2020 10: 22 New
              +1
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Maybe they were there after all?

              specifically stubborn - the Wehrmacht soldiers were taken prisoner with weapons in their hands !!!
      3. 4ekist
        4ekist 10 May 2020 10: 47 New
        +1
        If we published everything, everyone would have their hair on end.
      4. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 10 May 2020 12: 23 New
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        They could not make up the majority, for the percentage of Jews in Germany was small compared with the countries of Eastern Europe. In addition, they managed to emigrate a significant fate until the end of the 30s.
        1. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 11 May 2020 10: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: Sergej1972
          They could not make up the majority, for the percentage of Jews in Germany was small

          in a specific camp? ... if you don’t own a specific topic (about captured Jews under Borisoglebsk), then you don’t need to write anything
          1. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 11 May 2020 10: 48 New
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            Maybe it was the Hungarian Jews who served in the construction battalions of the Hungarian army?
            1. Tiksi-3
              Tiksi-3 11 May 2020 11: 02 New
              +1
              Quote: Sergej1972
              Maybe it was

              you do not understand Russian, then by
              1. Sergej1972
                Sergej1972 11 May 2020 15: 38 New
                0
                Do not be rude, I'm trying to understand the essence of the matter.
                1. Tiksi-3
                  Tiksi-3 12 May 2020 09: 26 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Sergej1972
                  Do not be rude

                  in your fantasies
                  Quote: Sergej1972
                  I'm trying to understand the point.

                  you are trying to troll, but not to understand that things are not compatible
    2. Koshak
      Koshak 9 May 2020 10: 14 New
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      Yeah. there is such a substance. which does not sink. And such figures. which will go through the heads
      For example, Mr. Gozman. By the way, it is precisely these Messrs. That provoke anti-Semitism.
      "The Jewish community also turns its back on such." They turn away correctly, they should generally beat them.
      1. Consul
        Consul 9 May 2020 16: 14 New
        +8
        Quote: Koshak
        should be beaten

        These should not be beaten, but sent to uranium mines.
    3. hydrox
      hydrox 9 May 2020 10: 24 New
      +4
      Quote: knn54
      -And where would Leonid Gozman be today, if those decisions were not made, an open question.

      This question will be open and not for one gozman, but for hundreds of his co-religionists working today on dousing Russia with feces, but for them nothing will change but their place of residence: as before, they will throw feces in our direction, standing by the fan , and all the same they will receive money from the same hands from which they receive now.
    4. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 9 May 2020 14: 25 New
      +1
      Jew - Wafen SS Soldier? 150 thousand Jewish soldiers? lol In Germany in 1933, 600 thousand Jews lived - including the elderly, women and infants. Where did they get 150 thousand guys of military age? laughing
      The German army served the Mishlig of the second category - in which one grandfather or grandmother were Jews. According to Nazi law, they were not considered Jews, the only thing was that the road to the SS was closed to them, with very few exceptions. As for the Jews who fought in the Wehrmacht-were. Pieces ten. The Finns had hundreds - six of them were awarded the Iron Cross by the Germans, but refused to accept the award. There were Jews in the Italian army - one of my grandfathers who served in intelligence killed this. I learned about his Jewry by chance.
      1. Tiksi-3
        Tiksi-3 12 May 2020 09: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Where did they get 150 thousand guys of military age?

        will you sort out the family from where the Jew in the Wehrmacht? from Italy, Poland, Belgium or the Czech Republic? come to you I say read without removal and sign about non-disclosure
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 12 May 2020 10: 12 New
          -1
          Italians (citizens) were not called to the Wehrmacht, Czechs after the 38th remained about 110 thousand, Belgian there was a miserly - once again, I will be in Voronezh, no question laughing
    5. krillon
      krillon 9 May 2020 16: 45 New
      +3
      The Jews essentially have the same model as in that Germany. Racial purity of blood. Eternal debate about who is more Jewish. Some pull on a blanket, Hasidim and others on themselves.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 12 May 2020 11: 46 New
        -1
        In addition to one little garbage - immunity and equal rights. strangers for the first time in history were granted the Jewish kingdom of David laughing And, by the way, anyone can become a Jew by accepting giyur, regardless of nationality or religion)).
        1. krillon
          krillon 17 May 2020 17: 16 New
          0
          Well, yes ... It’s informative to watch Eaton TV. And listen to what anyone can. But this is the concern of the state of Israel and the Jews in particular. I have Russian written in my passport. For this there was no need to accept Orthodoxy. And to prove that the parents were Russian. It used to be in tsarist Russia, everything was built around religion.
  • To be or not to be
    To be or not to be 9 May 2020 09: 07 New
    +7
    "Gozman: Soviet losses in the war cannot serve as an excuse for Stalin's pre-war cooperation with Hitler"

    "In the book" Proverbs of the Russian people "(1853)
    IN AND. Dahl (section - "Faithful - Visible"):
    - Dummy is getting richer;
    - Fools and dumkoy grow richer. "
    Gozman is not given to understand this ....

    Regarding the repression before the war ..
    Mentally transfer to our time - the columns in Siberia to the logging (God's will and Tsarska’s will) would have been even greater. And someone would have managed to escape to London or to the ancestral ... wink
  • svp67
    svp67 9 May 2020 09: 36 New
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    Quote: Walrus Fang
    Well, here are the grandchildren of the "veterans of the Tashkent front"

    Yes, if ... Boy’s grandfather Aaron Gozman He was shot in 1942 by order of the Soviet command, the reason for this was the desertion and cowardice of a soldier, the military rank is unknown.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 09: 49 New
      20
      And there were Jews - the heroes of the Soviet Union - like the same Dragunsky, Krivoshein, Fisanovich, Bogorad and many others. Sailors, pilots, artillerymen, infantrymen. If a person is essentially a known substance, the question is clearly not in nationality.
      1. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 9 May 2020 10: 10 New
        11
        That's right - the question is not of nationality
        WIN ONE AT ALL!
        "Jews - Heroes of the Soviet Union
        The title of Hero of the Soviet Union was awarded to 157 Jewish soldiers, three Jews - the Air Force Head of the Red Army general-leit Smushkevich, general-regiment. tank. Dragoon troops and Marshal of armored vehicles. Katukov troops - received this title twice, another 14 became full holders of the Order of Glory, which was equivalent to the title of Hero. .
        In total, the title of Hero was posthumously awarded to 45 Jewish soldiers, that is, almost a third of those awarded this title, eight more died, already becoming Heroes in the course of further battles.
        Jewish heroes were distributed as follows:
        rank and file and sergeant staff - 39,
        junior officers - 71,
        senior officers - 33,
        generals - 6 "
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 9 May 2020 11: 10 New
          +4
          Who told you that Katukov is a Jew?
          1. To be or not to be
            To be or not to be 9 May 2020 12: 32 New
            +2
            [
            Quote: Gardamir
            Who told you that Katukov is a Jew?

            https://souzveteranov.com/index.php/component/content/article?id=56:l-r-&start=1
            Yes, and it's not a nationality .a feat of heroes!
        2. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 10 May 2020 12: 29 New
          0
          Only Smushkevich is incorrect to include in this list. He became a hero twice before the war, and at the very beginning it was shot, deprived of all ranks and awards. In the 50s rehabilitated.
      2. 2112vda
        2112vda 10 May 2020 10: 56 New
        +2
        It’s not a matter of nationality. Scum and scoundrels are in all nations. The worst anti-Semites are Jews themselves, the worst Russophobes are liberal representatives of the Russian people and so on in all nations. You just need to timely identify and bring them to life with good denticles.
  • Basil50
    Basil50 9 May 2020 10: 01 New
    +7
    And we all about * repression * about * innocently .... *
    The country was preparing for war and at the same time endure - pests, traitors and bandits?
    I have questions for the liberals, and how many were killed, maimed, robbed of Soviet people by the victims * innocently ..... *?
    Those figures of the killed-crippled which I found very much too.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 10 May 2020 12: 35 New
      0
      Nevertheless, Smushkevich, Levers, Pavlov, Lactions were not enemies and traitors. The positions they held did not match their real managerial level. Heroes pilots and tankers do not always become good military leaders. A friend of Smushkevich Kravchenko did not hold such high posts, but he remained all respected hero.
  • Victor_B
    Victor_B 9 May 2020 10: 22 New
    +5
    What a disgusting erysipelas!

    I have a Gozman’s mug just causing a vomiting reflex!
    This is a character from those who greet the invaders with bread and salt and become police officers.
    That Americans Jews (like) should not be cut, then a traitor - this face!
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 9 May 2020 10: 40 New
    +9
    Quote: Walrus Fang
    Well, the grandchildren of the "veterans of the Tashkent front" began to sprinkle poisonous saliva out of hatred .. How many of them are now crawling out of the burrows of hamsters to spit in our souls and dive into the cache again ..
    It was not in vain that Stalin carried out stripping operations .. And before death he wanted to, but did not have time ..

    About the veterans of the Tashkent front:
    From 170 to 177 Jews received the title of Hero of the Soviet Union, which puts them in 4th place after the Russians (7998 people); Ukrainians (2021 people) and Belarusians (299 people), approximately on a par with the Tatars (161 people).
    1) During the Great Patriotic War, 500-501 thousand Jews were in the Armed Forces of the USSR, including 167 thousand officers, more than 20 thousand women and 334 thousand soldiers, sailors, sergeants and foremen. About 200 thousand Jewish soldiers, that is 40% of their total number, died in battle. Of the surviving Jews, 180 thousand people (60%) were injured, while more than 70 thousand (38%) were seriously injured. Such a high percentage of dead and wounded is due to the fact that 80% of Jews of ordinary and junior command personnel served in combat units.
    2) In Novorossiysk there is a monument to the Hero of the Soviet Union Caesar Lvovich Kunkov - the son of Lev Moiseevich and Tatyana Abramovna, nee Kheifets. The unit that took the bridgehead on Lesser Earth was called Kunikovtsy.
    3) You would have said this to one of my grandfathers in real life, but it would be better for me somewhere in the early 0’s .. lol In a good car, once in a lifetime you would train ... only in the trunk, but not scary
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      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 9 May 2020 13: 21 New
        -1
        Gozman is a product of the insanity ideology of the collapse of the USSR. - He brings him in one direction, other freaks and demagogues - in the other, opposite laughing
      2. Consul
        Consul 9 May 2020 16: 19 New
        12
        Quote: Operator
        The usual zhidobandera, of course.

        He is Russophobe and Westophile.
  • DDT
    DDT 9 May 2020 13: 10 New
    +1
    Quote: Walrus Fang
    Well, the grandchildren of the "veterans of the Tashkent front" began to sprinkle poisonous saliva out of hatred .. How many of them are now crawling out of the burrows of hamsters to spit in our souls and dive into the cache again ..
    It was not in vain that Stalin carried out stripping operations .. And before death he wanted to, but did not have time ..

    Tell me, why is this vyser about the grandchildren of the veterans of the Tashkent front`? Are you one of those who call Central Asians? Or is it just an excess of bile in the body? Why not the Chelyabinsk or Yekaterinburg front? Or do you deny the contribution of the Central Asian republics to the overall victory over fascist Germany?
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 9 May 2020 13: 38 New
      +5
      The Tashkent front - this came from the military personnel of the rear units, supply personnel and infantrymen who quickly left due to injuries. There were a lot of Jews in the Uzbek evacuation - immigrants from Poland, who were not Soviet citizens. The above categories of citizens spread rumors that the Jews did not fight, but settled in Tashkent - hence the name - the Tashkent front. 80% of Jews conscripted Jews served in combat units - therefore, the rear officials saw them mainly as translators, doctors and other "privileged" positions, which did not add to their love from cooks, storekeepers and others - hence the rumors. And the former for a short time on the front line, not knowing the national composition of the units, supported these rumors.
      1. DDT
        DDT 9 May 2020 13: 41 New
        +2
        Quote: Krasnodar
        The Tashkent front - this came from the military personnel of the rear units, supply personnel and infantrymen who quickly left due to injuries. There were a lot of Jews in the Uzbek evacuation - immigrants from Poland, who were not Soviet citizens. The above categories of citizens spread rumors that the Jews did not fight, but settled in Tashkent - hence the name - the Tashkent front. 80% of Jews conscripted Jews served in combat units - therefore, the rear officials saw them mainly as translators, doctors and other "privileged" positions, which did not add to their love from cooks, storekeepers and others - hence the rumors. And the former for a short time on the front line, not knowing the national composition of the units, supported these rumors.

        Thank! That's why I asked why suddenly Tashkent. Tashkent himself.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 9 May 2020 14: 00 New
          +8
          As for the Uzbeks, the husband of his grandmother’s sister was surrounded at the beginning of the war and, accordingly, was captured. Germans, of course - who is a Jew and a communist? Everyone is silent. Take off your pants! Are they approaching my relative - yude? No, he says, an Uzbek. A captive Uzbek is brought to him for verification. He asks in Uzbek, and my relative is Kalya-Dalya-Mala. The Uzbek laughed, something answered him on his own and the Germans nods - they say, a fellow tribesman. Then the relative ran away with his comrade and got out to his own - the mess of the 41st made itself felt among the Germans too. They wanted to shoot them as surrendered, but the Latvian special officer blended in - throw him into the unit formed from the remnants of other units, it will die anyway!
          Thus, he went through the whole war and died in the early 0s in Israel. Upon returning home, he tried to find traces of the Uzbek and Latvian - unfortunately, to no avail.
          1. DDT
            DDT 9 May 2020 16: 53 New
            +4
            Yes, the war has laid bare the best and worst strongholds of human nature! Happy Victory Day and eternal memory to those who went through this war, suffered and won
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 9 May 2020 17: 47 New
              +6
              Happy Victory Day and a peaceful sky!
  • venik
    venik 9 May 2020 13: 39 New
    +3
    Quote: Walrus Fang
    How many of them will now climb out of the minks of hamsters so that we can spit in our souls and dive into the caches again ..

    =======
    We still have amazing people! If the HEROES (and such, with us, fortunately - the overwhelming MOST!) - then SUCH that ALL THE WORLD with them an example should take! And if so hates - (and such, fortunately, we have an overwhelming MINORITY!) - such that " nowhere! ". Even to spit in the direction of such a" gozman "- and that is dumb - and suddenly" get dirty ?!
  • cost
    cost 9 May 2020 14: 08 New
    +5
    Well, here are the grandchildren of the "veterans of the Tashkent front"

    There is no need to blame indiscriminately, as you call them - "veterans of the Tashkent front." Most of them went to the evacuation along with the production and made a worthy contribution to the overall victory.
    Gozman’s grandfather has nothing to do with these people. During the war, his grandfather Aaron was called to the front. And in 1942, Aaron Gozman was shot "For desertion and cowardice."
    more details: https://starpri.ru/leonid-gozman/
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 9 May 2020 14: 44 New
      +4
      Quote: Rich

      There is no need to blame indiscriminately, as you call them - "veterans of the Tashkent front." Most of them went to evacuation along with the production and made a worthy contribution to the overall victory. /

      In Tashkent, there were mainly Polish Jews. For Soviet Jews, 80% of the junior command and rank personnel served in combat units, and from there the high percentage of losses among front-line soldiers of my nationality was 40%.
      1. cost
        cost 9 May 2020 15: 04 New
        +7
        Happy holiday, Albert!
        There were mostly Polish Jews in Tashkent

        Well, why mostly Polish Jews? Tashkent received about a million refugees from more than 30 nationalities of the peoples of the USSR. They were provided with more than 135 thousand square meters. meters of living space, they were employed. Residents of Uzbekistan shared with them the last piece of bread,
        During the Great Patriotic War, more than 100 enterprises were evacuated to Uzbekistan (Uzbek SSR) (Leningrad Textile Machinery Plant, Rostselmash, Sumy Compressor Plant, TAPOiCh, TTZ, Krasny Aksay, Stalingrad Chemical Plant, Moscow Lift Plant, Elektrostanok and many others), of which 55 enterprises were located in Tashkent and the Tashkent region.


        Small Uzbekistan, in which only 6,5 million people lived before the war (1,5 million went to the front and 420 died) took about a million refugees - 200 of whom were children.
        In January, the 42nd women of Tashkent addressed all women of Uzbekistan to show maternal care for the evacuated. Thousands responded. Often, Uzbek women came to the station and took the children to their families. Clothing, housing In total, during the war years, over 4,5 orphans were accepted into Uzbek families. The family of Kh. Samadov adopted 13 children, F. Kasymova - 10. The 50-year-old Bakhrikhon Ashirkhodzhaeva adopted eight children of different nationalities.
        For Soviet Jews, 80% of junior command and enlisted personnel served in combat units, and from there the high percentage of losses among front-line soldiers of my nationality - 40%

        But does anyone deny the contribution of the Jews of the USSR to the common victory of the Soviet people over Germany. I wrote about Grandfather Gozman, not hitting his nationality at all. Cowards and deserters just don't have it
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 9 May 2020 15: 12 New
          +1
          Happy holiday and peaceful sky above your head!
          Of the Jews there were mostly Polish. Soviet evacuated mainly to Siberia - Omsk, Novosibirsk, etc. hi Many settled in the Urals - specialists with their plants.
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 19: 41 New
            0
            Stop take your time, but how did Polish Jews from western Belarus and Ukraine manage to leave for evacuation?
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 9 May 2020 20: 34 New
              0
              Polish Jews who remained in Western Ukraine and Belarus died. Polish Jews who managed to move to the USSR in 1939 settled, mainly in Kiev, Kharkov, Poltava, Minsk. At the beginning of the war, they were evacuated by crowds, primarily large families. Some of them moved to Tashkent after evacuation to the Urals and Siberia. Climate, relatives, etc. With Moldavian Jews - about the same story. Those who managed to get settled in Tiraspol or Bendery were evacuated. Many moved to Tashkent during the war.
              1. Cyril G ...
                Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 20: 37 New
                +1
                then I agree. It was like that. I judge in Minsk
    2. DDT
      DDT 9 May 2020 17: 05 New
      0
      I feel purely humanly sorry for Aaron Guzman's grandfather. War, not for all the uterus is native. And any normal person in battle, when people die nearby, can get confused, frighten and run away. The bloodthirsty Germans did not shoot, the Yankees and the British did not shoot. And ours yes. My deceased grandfather, while working in the KGB, was saving people from the Soviet camps who had visited the Nazi camps. And is it normal that anyone who was captured was de facto a traitor and was subject to exile or shot?
      1. cost
        cost 9 May 2020 18: 42 New
        +1
        I feel purely humanly sorry for Aaron Guzman's grandfather. War, not for all the uterus is native. And any normal person in battle, when people die nearby, can get confused, frighten and run away

        I agree with you. At that time it was such that they didn’t really understand it, or maybe it wasn’t for others.
        Who knows, they would give a chance - he returned home with a victory .. and so without options
      2. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 19: 43 New
        +3
        And where did you get that the Germans did not shoot? In addition, the filtering process was completed by court, landing and execution of a relatively small percentage of our fellow citizens.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 9 May 2020 20: 40 New
          -2
          At the end of the war, the Germans hung their deserters
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 20: 47 New
            0
            As if not on a barbed wire
  • igor67
    igor67 9 May 2020 15: 24 New
    +2
    Quote: Walrus Fang
    Online
    Walrus Fang Today, 07:50 AM NEW
    45
    Well, here are the grandchildren of the "veterans of the Tashkent front"

    hear you walrus x ... my grandfather, a Jew, like his brother, volunteers died near Stalingrad, and my father and grandmother yes, were evacuated to Tashkent, so what? they were starving there, the father is still nibbling black crackers, so change the ethics
  • Deniska999
    Deniska999 9 May 2020 07: 56 New
    35
    I think that on Victory Day you can do without provocative publications on VO. This can be discussed on other days.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 9 May 2020 08: 02 New
      21
      abominable entities, they are vile outside and inside ...
      1. Walrus fang
        Walrus fang 9 May 2020 08: 06 New
        +4
        Quote: Dead Day
        abominable entities, they are vile outside and inside ...

        And how many of these we divorced ..
        Quote: Deniska999
        I think that on Victory Day you can do without provocative publications on VO. This can be discussed on other days.

        Let them write .. As in the movie "Come and See" ..
        WATCH ALL AND REMEMBER !!!!! negative soldier
      2. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 9 May 2020 08: 12 New
        13
        "God marks rogue" - you know this expression? So no surprise. Moral degeneration is reflected in the physical appearance.
      3. Hagakure
        Hagakure 9 May 2020 08: 38 New
        +5
        Spirit creates forms for itself ... Holy Fathers
      4. Consul
        Consul 9 May 2020 16: 24 New
        +8
        The ultra-liberals they are all like that
    2. depressant
      depressant 9 May 2020 08: 12 New
      10
      Deniska999, support. Indeed, it looks like blasphemy.
      Better remember the fallen, wish good health to the living.
      Happy Victory Day, dear colleagues!
    3. mole
      mole 9 May 2020 08: 49 New
      +6
      Quote: Deniska999
      I think that on Victory Day you can do without provocative publications on VO. This can be discussed on other days.

      I join unconditionally!
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    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 9 May 2020 09: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: fyvaprold
      "... the descendants of undercooked soap
      Saviors are bitten in the pants ... "

      strings worthy not worthy.
      ps judging by what you code through the Assyrian in brackets, I come to one of two conclusions:
      you are either very young or the psyche is slightly out of balance.
      Pss Jesus who turned water into wine and drove the money changers was a Jew. (according to your "forefather of undercooked soap".)

      Pss John, who wrote your favorite lines also
      1. fyvaprold
        fyvaprold 9 May 2020 20: 12 New
        +4
        Quote: Maki Avellevich
        Quote: fyvaprold
        "... the descendants of undercooked soap
        Saviors are bitten in the pants ... "

        strings worthy not worthy.
        ps judging by what you code through the Assyrian in brackets, I come to one of two conclusions:
        you are either very young or the psyche is slightly out of balance.
        Pss Jesus who turned water into wine and drove the money changers was a Jew. (according to your "forefather of undercooked soap".)

        Pss John, who wrote your favorite lines also

        Eka, how you famously pulled an owl on the globe. However, I will repay you with your own coin: either you are a youngster, or you are paid for searches of imaginary anti-Semitism. However, in order:
        Quote: Maki Avellievich
        Jesus who turned water into wine and dispersed the money changers was a Jew. (according to your "forefather of undercooked soap".)

        !). Jesus, unlike Gozman, Gordon (Mitya) Albats, Zilbertrud (aka Bykov), veterans of the Great Patriotic War, did not interfere with shit, did not justify the Nazi rabble, and did not drink "Bavarian" either. Therefore, an example is irrelevant.
        2). The “forefather” of the Jews was Abraham, not Jesus.
        3). The poem was dedicated to the admirers of Hitler and other "yuber-lesser", and not to the Jews as a people, therefore the grandfather of the same Gozman has nothing to do with the Jewish veterans or the people in general, Aaron, if I don't confuse anything, was drafted into the Red Army in 1942 year was shot by the decision of the court-martial for cowardice, I emphasize in red, SHOT, and not sent to the penal battalion, it means that it was not a simple flight from the battlefield. Such as the above listed characters, in the concentration camps in the "capos" were recorded and raster lists of prisoners were made.
        Quote: Maki Avellievich
        Pss John, who wrote your favorite lines also

        Who told you that I liked them? I just found them relevant in the context of the article. And yes, the author is not "John", but a certain Yagovkin (I did look for the author). It sounds like this:

        When Moscow did not defeat fascism,
        And how the Poles hid in the bushes,
        Maceichuk could be a bar of soap.
        It’s a pity I didn’t make the world cleaner.

        The war is getting farther, Poland suddenly forgot
        What would they not have a country
        Descendants of undercooked soap
        Rescuers bite their pants ..


        Sergey Yagovkin.

        Where did you see Jesus, Abraham, Solomon, Heroes of the Great Patriotic War and Jewish inhabitants in this verse? Wipe your eyes, or buy glasses, you are our worthy. hi
  • evgenii67
    evgenii67 9 May 2020 08: 41 New
    +5
    Quote: Stroibat stock
    Is this cross-eyed something - a politician?
    Dear site administration. I beg you not to litter the information space with the ravings of the insane.

    I want to call this person different words, BUT ...

    On this day, I do not want to read and listen to the dirt and do not want to pour mud on people, even if they deserve it.


    All a Happy Holiday! Peaceful sky over your head!
  • Baloo
    Baloo 9 May 2020 09: 06 New
    +6
    Quote: Stroibat stock
    Is this cross-eyed something - a politician?
    Dear site administration. I beg you not to litter the information space with the ravings of the insane.

    What do you want from a descendant of a deserter? A traitor is fate, a kind of psychotype.
  • Civil
    Civil 9 May 2020 09: 11 New
    +7
    In 1991, Gozman was 41, which means he also belongs to the "Cursed Generation", that is, to those who, being an adult, exchanged the USSR and Victory for chewing gum with jeans.
  • KryoWarrior1978
    KryoWarrior1978 9 May 2020 09: 23 New
    +4
    I support !!!!
    On a holy day, there is nothing to insert any trash. Do the cleaning on the site !!!
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 9 May 2020 10: 55 New
      10
      There is an obligatory ideological set (ideological attitude), which must be taken for granted and voiced by everyone who strives for the "European home", "the European family of peoples", has made the "European choice." This set consists of the "stamps" voiced and approved by PACE:
      1) Stalinism is an absolute evil, something like "Mordor",
      2) Stalin and Hitler are one and the same and they are equally guilty of unleashing the Second World War, Stalin is guilty even more thanks to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact,
      3) Nazism was condemned in Nuremberg, but Stalinism escaped this and we need a new process of condemning Stalinism,
      4) Jews suffered the main losses in the Second World War, and they alone are to blame for this .... everyone: some killed Jews, others .... didn’t do enough to stop this destruction, the USSR in every possible way downplayed the role of Jews in defeated fascism subjected them to persecution and repression almost the same as Hitler,
      5) the USSR wanted to attack first and if it attacked, Europe would have been waiting for what Hitler did in the USSR, and even much worse,
      6) the USSR did not liberate Europe from Hitler, he came to occupy it,
      7) Russia now remains the same "Mordor", because it does not want to condemn Stalin, "Stalinism", to recognize itself as an occupier of Europe, a strangler of freedoms and democracies, a rapist of all European women, and does not want to apologize for this and pay reparations to all who "suffered "to the peoples, 8) The main threat in the world is Russia, Why? See point-7).
      1. krillon
        krillon 17 May 2020 17: 27 New
        0
        Ostap suffered .. People mixed up in a bunch of horses. Can Poland and the rest of Europe admit the extermination of Jews? One-sided judgments.
  • Yura
    Yura 9 May 2020 10: 53 New
    +2
    Quote: Stroibat stock
    Is this cross-eyed something - a politician?

    The analyzer-sewer, and not the politician, is a poorly functioning sewage treatment tank, dumping poisonous waste that destroys everything.
  • Alekseev
    Alekseev 9 May 2020 11: 15 New
    +4
    Quote: Stroibat stock
    crazy ravings.

    This, in general, is not insane, but a harmful reptile.
    Agitation for not quite smart inhabitants, they say, our leadership is stupid, there are a lot of problems, why, they say, do we need Crimea and rejection of Banderlog in Ukraine? It is necessary to reconcile and it will be fine. Why hypersonic weapons and new heavy ICBMs instead of Satan? After all, our partners are civilized countries. lol
    At the same time, the Gozmans and others tacitly ignore the topic that "civilized" people from Hiroshima to Libya and Syria do not hesitate to use weapons if they realize their impunity.
    He also chose a day for his insinuations. Salutes are not needed ... I would also offer to obey before the small but proud accomplices of the Nazis from the Baltic states and other places.
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 9 May 2020 11: 26 New
    +6
    Quote: Stroibat stock
    Is this cross-eyed something - a politician?

    One thing I can't understand - why is this "something" given the opportunity to shit in our souls? Is this the "alternative point of view"? Why do these ....... alternative point of view necessarily spit at us and our ancestors? How long will we endure this?
    All, the administration of VO, users and readers of VO with the Great Holiday, with VICTORY !!!
  • Consul
    Consul 9 May 2020 16: 02 New
    +9
    Quote: Stroibat stock
    Is this cross-eyed something - a politician?

    He is an enemy of the people. Such need to be driven out of our country by a rotten broom.
  • Michael67
    Michael67 10 May 2020 02: 24 New
    0
    I completely agree with you. Why is "it" called a politician? "It" has to drain down the drain.
  • LeftPers
    LeftPers 10 May 2020 11: 55 New
    0
    They removed it from the language and edited it (by removing the mats addressed to this scum).
  • Nikolai Korovin
    Nikolai Korovin 10 May 2020 13: 56 New
    0
    This is not insane. It deliberately spits in the soul.
  • Sasha Minakov
    Sasha Minakov 9 May 2020 07: 47 New
    10
    It’s impossible to read the news feed already .... some nonsense of liberals and pseudo news that lasts half an hour in the top of Yandex. About military equipment is almost zero.
  • askort154
    askort154 9 May 2020 07: 48 New
    28
    To the editors of VO, why did they put this scum on VO, and even on the Great Victory Day.
    Why spoil the mood of the majority! Smirnov - AU! negative
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 09: 51 New
      +4
      I support. Clean in FIG
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 9 May 2020 21: 25 New
      +1
      By the way, Smirnov today hung on me the penultimate warning before being banned for addressing "I repeat to all the deaf, blind and mindless ...": he called it rudeness and insult, although any department of the Russian language of any University will see in this expression only a figure of speech.
      Who can tell me where to turn to bring Smirnov back to normal?
      Will the prosecutor be interested in this issue?
  • +5
    +5 9 May 2020 07: 48 New
    -4
    It seems to me that this caricature Jew from Hitler’s anti-Semitic agitation is definitely an agent of the Kremlin ... Too odious ... Although he might just be sick ..
    1. Consul
      Consul 9 May 2020 16: 35 New
      +9
      Quote: 5-9
      definitely an agent of the Kremlin

      Here he is definitely not an agent of the Kremlin. He is a true Russophobe
  • Andrey Mikhaylov
    Andrey Mikhaylov 9 May 2020 07: 49 New
    11
    Squinting, whoever would open his mouth at Stalin, why are you printing him here.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 9 May 2020 08: 06 New
      14
      If Putin personally presented Alekseeva with the Zak of Merit medal, it means that our government cannot live without the gozmans. But just like them, they decide for what and what sanctions the Americans should impose on Russia.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 9 May 2020 08: 25 New
        +2
        Quote: siberalt
        If Putin personally presented the Zak of Merit medal to Alekseeva

        It was not necessary to feed the piranhas; they will devour them with boots.
  • BARKAS
    BARKAS 9 May 2020 07: 50 New
    12
    What kind of cooperation did the USSR build its plants in for Hitler? Or is it the United States.
    1. Consul
      Consul 9 May 2020 16: 37 New
      +9
      These ultra liberals don't care. They are fake guns.
  • Kelwin
    Kelwin 9 May 2020 07: 50 New
    12
    Gozman, who are you to have an opinion at all, let alone express it? die out ...
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 9 May 2020 07: 53 New
    13
    Plug someone to this Jew's mouth. Now I understand the difference between a Jew and a Jew.
    1. DEDPIHTO
      DEDPIHTO 9 May 2020 09: 30 New
      +4
      hi That would have been understood by lawmakers with the guardsmen, and then for this goal of the gozman, you can rattle under the article. Well, here the problem is known ..
  • bar
    bar 9 May 2020 07: 54 New
    10
    On Victory Day, is it necessary to discuss the inhabitants of this liberalistic garbage dump?
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 9 May 2020 07: 55 New
    13
    Gozman: Losses of the USSR in the war cannot justify Stalin’s pre-war cooperation with Hitler
    To strangle him is not enough. Hamlo discussing the war and Stalin, 30 silver coins beg, the son of Lieutenant Schmidt.
    Advisor to Yegor Gaidar
    with 1992 years
    Advisor to the Head of the Presidential Administration, later First Deputy Prime Minister A. B. Chubais
    1996 - 1999
    Member of the Management Board, Plenipotentiary Representative for work with authorities and public organizations of RAO "UES of Russia"
    1999 - 2008
    Humanitarian Project Director, Rusnano
    2008 - 2013
    1. Consul
      Consul 9 May 2020 16: 40 New
      11
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      To strangle him is not enough. Hamlo discussing the war and Stalin, 30 silver coins beg

      Sometimes, looking at such gozman, I have thoughts that it would be nice to return the term for them - the enemy of the people.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 9 May 2020 20: 01 New
        +3
        Quote: Consul
        it would be nice to return for them the term - the enemy of the people.

        Well, for such a need and article of revolutionary defense to return. angry
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 9 May 2020 21: 33 New
      +1
      I look at your pearls and fear takes :: something is not afraid of Smirnov, who imposes warnings for very kindergarten expressions (like mine!).
      But I look, it’s he who is more afraid of you than you are of him - I wonder WHY? laughing
      Or will there be a debriefing tomorrow? But then the site will be without visitors at all (except for liberoids: they multiply like maggots!)
  • Hagen
    Hagen 9 May 2020 07: 57 New
    +8
    Mr. Gozman, on all issues in the life of the country, has an opinion opposite to the Kremlin. But the trouble is, he can not convincingly substantiate it. And in this he, like a twin brother, looks like the whole Western party that sleeps and sees how to eliminate us, not even politically, but also physically. In a word, Gozman is an outspoken enemy of independent Russia and its people, just so far toothless ...
    1. Darek
      Darek 9 May 2020 08: 04 New
      +9
      Yes, everything is fine.
      Oh, and Valeria Ilinichna was waiting for you all there! It’s time ... Yes, it would be nice to have Borovoy and Makarevich there too ...
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 9 May 2020 08: 43 New
        0
        Quote: Darek
        Yes, everything is fine.

        I think that such a bright odious figure is very useful. She copes well with the role of a marker of dangerous forces. All who are in an allied relationship with her must draw the closest attention from the point of view of hidden or overt opposition. Therefore, health to him .... wassat
  • volodimer
    volodimer 9 May 2020 08: 01 New
    10
    We had such a saying in childhood: "They didn't give a word!" This is just about this "policy".
    Cloaca spewed out her stench. I support appeals to the site administration, this is not worth the attention and appearance here, especially on such a day.
    I congratulate everyone on Victory Day !!!! hi
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 08: 43 New
      +6
      It wasn’t worth typing! To start...
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 9 May 2020 08: 45 New
        +5
        I would just delete it from the site. if you goofed.
  • Guards turn
    Guards turn 9 May 2020 08: 06 New
    +5
    He didn’t leave under the USSR; now nobody is holding him.
    1. Bykov.
      Bykov. 9 May 2020 08: 19 New
      +8
      Quote: Guards turn
      He didn’t leave under the USSR; now nobody is holding him.

      Yes, to whom and where is it needed?
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  • SeregaBoss
    SeregaBoss 9 May 2020 08: 10 New
    +9
    It's time to beat. Strong. Painfully. On the brazen face.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 9 May 2020 08: 20 New
      +6
      Quote: Serge Boss
      It's time to beat. Strong. Painfully. On the brazen face.

      Can be kicked, earned honestly. angry
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 9 May 2020 19: 08 New
        0
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Quote: Serge Boss
        It's time to beat. Strong. Painfully. On the brazen face.

        Can be kicked, earned honestly. angry

        then wash your feet ... ugh ... bat ...
  • Puler
    Puler 9 May 2020 08: 15 New
    11
    A potential lampshade, it would be better to be silent ...
  • Eug
    Eug 9 May 2020 08: 17 New
    +7
    The cases, of course, were different, but the overwhelming majority of the people defended their country! And about "cooperation" it would be better to be silent .. because the snot and squeal of this Caudle is precisely caused by the fact that the ancestors of his owners did not manage to keep Stalin on a leash .. from Gozman and others like him there is one unconditional benefit - looking at their behavior and listening to them, you can really evaluate events and personalities on the basis of "by contradiction" ...
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 9 May 2020 21: 38 New
      +1
      FROM "nasty" to "vomit nasty" ...
  • Bykov.
    Bykov. 9 May 2020 08: 18 New
    +4
    Wow, as he tries oblique, he wants more State Doc cookies. He wants some excuses.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 9 May 2020 08: 18 New
    +3
    The losses of the USSR in the war cannot justify the pre-war cooperation of Stalin with Hitler
    To whom do you justify yourself, before the liberals, who sold the fatherland? angry
  • Chingachguk
    Chingachguk 9 May 2020 08: 21 New
    +2
    And I don’t know what I would do if I accidentally met this cross-eyed monkey on Victory Day in a quiet side street ...... Now the mold has grown today !!!!!
  • 1536
    1536 9 May 2020 08: 22 New
    +7
    Who gives him a "tribune"? By the decision of which kibbutz are these provocateurs infiltrating the Russian media? One wants to see the Germans near Moscow, the other is completely distraught and grinds all sorts of nonsense about the USSR and the Great Patriotic War. Enough to poison people with these satchels!
  • mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 9 May 2020 08: 22 New
    +9
    Evacuate the residents of Leningrad? This is how he imagines it. Straight Spinoza and Napoleon rolled into one. There were 1941 million of them in 2. By the way, very many were evacuated. The wives of both of my deceased uncles managed to evacuate, namely women with small children and pregnant women. So the wrong gentleman is good. Publish your vyser on the Svoboda website. They will serve you there. and there is hardly anyone on the VO.
  • pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 9 May 2020 08: 27 New
    +9
    To argue with Gozman is "to drink the sea". He combines justice with the absurdity of "three times hero of the world." Approximately: "The sky without clouds is blue, so there is no God!"
    "Gozman declares that the multimillion-dollar losses of the Soviet Union in the war with Hitler's Germany" cannot serve as an excuse for Stalin's pre-war cooperation with Hitler and Soviet expansionism in the postwar years. "
    Hey Gozman! Thy mother so! Remember who else collaborated with Hitler! From the Queen of England and the British government, led by Chamberlain, Pilsudski, Deladier, to the entire ruling, financial and industrial elite of the United States.
    Why are you, a child of the CIA and a grandson of KAPO, you’ve completely got into insanity? I’m the seventh dozen, you - soon the eighth. And insanity has been haunting for forty years ... Also started in a school for children with late development?
  • arhitroll
    arhitroll 9 May 2020 08: 34 New
    +6
    why vysyr on a bright day?
  • Barmaleyka
    Barmaleyka 9 May 2020 08: 34 New
    +4
    the desire to have children with Gozman’s parents cannot justify the birth of this dEbila
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  • Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 08: 41 New
    +5
    And because the countries of the so-called democracy did not cooperate with him, the United States drove military supplies so completely through gaskets. And moreover, the Anglo-Saxons brought up Hitler Pan. But something went wrong. (with.)
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 9 May 2020 08: 42 New
    +7
    Gozman: Losses of the USSR in the war cannot justify Stalin’s pre-war cooperation with Hitler

    It is these “mumbles” that continue to destroy the consciousness of young Russians. Who calls them liberals? These are the most common "gays" in a simple colloquial Russian vocabulary.
    That's who needs to be made to earn bread with little hands, and not with language on Russian television.
  • north 2
    north 2 9 May 2020 08: 47 New
    +6
    Gozman’s physiognomy and his thoughts on the Day of the Great Victory Day could not have been published,
    and it turns out the same thing if on the day of Holy Easter publish a portrait of the devil and quote his thoughts about the fallacy of the Bible’s teachings on sacrifice and on the Resurrection. Because the USSR and its peoples, and especially the Slavic peoples of the USSR, sacrificed themselves in that war so that the peoples would be resurrected not only in the USSR, but throughout Europe, because in Hitler’s plans they had to be destroyed. If we talk about the price of that victim, so only a potential Hitler policeman or Vlasov can bargain about such a price in the market. And for great nations, war and sacrifice have always been the highest moral and spiritual test. This is probably due to the fact that these peoples believe and know that the Savior taught them to sacrifice themselves for the salvation of others, and the devil always promised to sell themselves to them.
    However, it may be necessary to remind the devil of the holiday, so that people do not forget that the devil
    always spinning somewhere nearby ...
  • Sayan
    Sayan 9 May 2020 08: 48 New
    +3
    Oh, with what pleasure I would put a light bulb in his mouth and connect 220 am purulent creature
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 9 May 2020 08: 48 New
    +2
    Everyone imagines himself a strategist, watching the battle from the side ...
  • Moskovit
    Moskovit 9 May 2020 08: 52 New
    +3
    I think any veteran, of any nationality, from the heart would have touched the face of this, so to speak, man. Yes, and their descendants, too.
  • Van 16
    Van 16 9 May 2020 08: 53 New
    +4
    Let's celebrate Victory Day, this is a great, bright day. And there is no place in him like that .. Gozmanam.
  • comradChe
    comradChe 9 May 2020 08: 55 New
    0
    Gozmans are part of the Putin regime, against which it is easier for Putin himself to play the role of a patriot, whom he was not and is not.
  • Eula
    Eula 9 May 2020 09: 00 New
    +3
    I wonder where were the ancestors of Gozman at that time and which of the states did not cooperate with Germany?
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    1. begemot20091
      begemot20091 9 May 2020 09: 41 New
      0
      Identical for "Oh," addressed to the liberals. And today, on such a day and this moral !!!!!! freak. In my family there are more participants in the Second World War than his family. Not a single "visited the gulag invented by them." Yesterday there was a documentary about cooperation between England, the USA, banks and firms with Hitler. The same can be discussed - just not the performances of such heroes of the Tashkent front.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 9 May 2020 09: 07 New
    +3
    Stalin’s pre-war cooperation with Hitler

    If you recall .... yes, all of those then, dermocratic, with the Fuhrer were in a hurry to be friends already in the jump!
  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 9 May 2020 09: 07 New
    +3
    The chutzpaty gozmans should be remembered once and for all, if it were not for the "expansionism of the USSR", then the last Lieberman the German Nazis would have fired their stoves in Auschwitz a long time ago, and there would be no trace of Gozman and Izrail.
  • mark2
    mark2 9 May 2020 09: 09 New
    +9
    For a long time I’ve been observing how the VO site is increasingly flowing from information to propaganda with a fair amount of provocative bias.
    Yesterday, the German Foreign Ministry reaffirmed that only Hitler Germany is the culprit of the start of World War II.
    I looked at the list of news, such information did not slip here. But then another Russophobic exposition of the Jew Gozman was included in the news. And this statement was made precisely on May 9 and concerned the Great Patriotic War.
    Is that a provocation? Yes it is a provocation
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 9 May 2020 09: 20 New
      +7
      Good morning! Happy Victory Day!
      I don’t understand why either? WHY duplicate the words of this, well, let's call him a correct-bad person! Especially today ??? Yes it would be better if a good article about the Heroes of the past war would have been printed, right word! am
  • Alt 22
    Alt 22 9 May 2020 09: 14 New
    +4
    And all the countries that collaborated with Hitler before the war, he also offers to call to account? / And those who collaborated with Hitler during the war, such as America?
  • KryoWarrior1978
    KryoWarrior1978 9 May 2020 09: 21 New
    +3
    Comrades, Happy Great Victory Day !!!
  • Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
    Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 9 May 2020 09: 22 New
    +4
    Why do we need this today?!? ... It is not necessary.
  • 2112vda
    2112vda 9 May 2020 09: 29 New
    +2
    Back in the late 80s, an elderly Jew, whom I knew and respected, explained to us young people that there are Jews and there are greed. A Jew is a nationality, a Jew is a state of mind. A Jew can be a person of any nationality. Gozman-jade, a descendant of the Khazars, he does not look like a Jew even externally. The closely related marriages in his relatives played a cruel joke with him, both physically and mentally, a sadness.
    Fucking political correctness, and here the words rule
  • really
    really 9 May 2020 09: 32 New
    -4
    That broke the shit of anti-Semitism, climbs from almost all comments. The author did not cite a single quote, and commentators talked about closing the resource.
    1. 2112vda
      2112vda 9 May 2020 09: 41 New
      +4
      Well, here no one is against the Semitic peoples. Semites include Arabs, Sephardic Jews. The descendants of the Khazar Kaganate, the Ashkenazi Jews, are never Semites, this is a multi-tribal mixture that adopted Judaism in its time between the Volga and Don rivers. These "fancy lads" had a very good "fun" in their time until Svyatoslav Igorevich "turned the sled" for them. So do not confuse the genital organ with the finger. In Gozman's article, we are dealing with a common manifestation of small-town Zionism. That our nationalists, that the Zionists of the same berry field
      1. really
        really 9 May 2020 09: 52 New
        +1
        Here the thoughts of the author and commentators are clearly and clearly written in Russian in white, if you don’t like what Gozman wrote, you need to write that he is wrong, that he is a scum and does not correctly interpret the story, as a result of which the USSR lost a myriad of people of all nationalities, the whole infrastructure to Moscow and the Caucasus, and the Soviet people answered for this, who endured the whole burden of the war.
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 9 May 2020 16: 22 New
        +3
        Quote: 2112vda
        Well, here no one is against the Semitic peoples. Semites include Arabs, Sephardic Jews. The descendants of the Khazar Kaganate, the Ashkenazi Jews, are never Semites, this is a multi-tribal mixture that adopted Judaism in its time between the Volga and Don rivers. These "fancy lads" had a very good "fun" in their time until Svyatoslav Igorevich "turned the sled" for them. So do not confuse the genital organ with the finger. In Gozman's article, we are dealing with a common manifestation of small-town Zionism. That our nationalists, that the Zionists of the same berry field

        Another specialist lol Who cares who Gozman is by nationality, if he is talking nonsense - thanks to the Molotov-Ribentrop Pact (and the Finnish War, too, by the way), the country received a territorial buffer, which became critical in 1941.
        According to your post:
        1) The term anti-Semitism has nothing to do with the Arabs, coined in the 19th century in Austria by the German nationalist Wilhelm Maro, implies a "natural" antagonism between "Germans" and Jews.
        2) Sephardic Jews come from Spain. Ashkenazi Jews are from Germany. The top of the Khazar Khaganate is Turkic-speaking, could mix with both Ashkenazi or Greek Jews, and with the descendants of Babylonian Jewry in Mesopotamia, Bukhara, etc. By the way, Don Slavs also entered the Khazar Khaganate.
        3) Shtetl Zionism - sho tse take? The desire of the Jews of Borviha and Zhukovka to repatriate to Israel? laughing
  • Operator
    Operator 9 May 2020 09: 35 New
    +6
    Gozman once again confirmed that Jewish nationalists are the same enemies of the Russians as the German.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 9 May 2020 11: 10 New
      +2
      Not quite so! He first of all confirmed that he is a person who does not remember the past and is a clinical * stupid person *! Unfortunately, he reached the media.
      Hence the question, until ?????
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 9 May 2020 16: 26 New
      0
      If Gozman is a Jewish nationalist, then Karl Marx is a supporter of pan-Turkism. lol
  • zombirusrev
    zombirusrev 9 May 2020 09: 42 New
    +1
    If the Entente hadn’t helped in Poland in 1920 and ours had broken through to the aid of red Bavaria, then there would have been no Hitler, but the World USSR ... and Gozman’s friends had nurtured Hitler, but nothing had come of it, so their sixes and hell still. By the way, he forgot the United States and Hitler until 1944, although the truth was not completely official.
    1. Walrus fang
      Walrus fang 9 May 2020 09: 50 New
      +2
      Quote: zombirusrev
      If the Entente hadn’t helped in Poland in 1920 and ours had broken through to the aid of red Bavaria, then there would have been no Hitler, but the World USSR ... and Gozman’s friends had nurtured Hitler, but nothing had come of it, so their sixes and hell still. By the way, he forgot the United States and Hitler until 1944, although the truth was not completely official.

      That's right, but alas .. Then I remember the campaign in Warsaw ended in a terrible tragedy .. About 100 thousand were tortured by starvation and other torture to the Red Army in the concentration camps of Poland-Entente
      Eternal memory to them! hi And then Hitler appeared and soared sharply ..
      1. zombirusrev
        zombirusrev 9 May 2020 10: 54 New
        +2
        Precisely because Poland was sponsored by the Entente and helped as much as it could. Or you don’t know. If it hadn’t helped, then all of Germany would have become Soviet and there would have been no Hitler, and like the 3rd Reich. Hitler did not just soar up the British carefully helped him, and all the fascist regimes of Europe were friends, from Romania and Hungary to Pilsudchiki. Again, as Y. Pilsudsky wrote, he won this war by chance on his own initiative. He was the salvation of Poland, and our parquet Napoleon Tukhachevsky did not know how to properly guard the rear and cover the flanks, unfortunately we did not have a second Budyonny excuse me!
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 9 May 2020 16: 27 New
      -3
      Yes, the bulk of American cooperation with the Reich fell on the bombing of German cities with flying fortresses)). And shaving support since the 40th.
  • smaug78
    smaug78 9 May 2020 09: 45 New
    +4
    Why drag this marginal politician here? The editors have nothing to write about?
  • parusnik
    parusnik 9 May 2020 09: 48 New
    +4
    D .. fool, this Gozman and his head in the bedside table ... It is a pity that the number of those whose head in the bedside table is growing ...
  • shoroh
    shoroh 9 May 2020 09: 53 New
    +4
    What the hell is this trait quoting here !?
  • Egoza
    Egoza 9 May 2020 10: 02 New
    +3
    How nice, sitting with a glass of wine, eating Parmesan, to reason and HOW it was necessary, which was wrong! And in general ... that the government and personally Stalin ..... AND YOU WOULD NOT GO ...... WITH ALL SUCH AS SMART !!!!!
    1. Walrus fang
      Walrus fang 9 May 2020 10: 05 New
      +3
      Quote: Egoza
      How nice, sitting with a glass of wine, eating Parmesan, to reason and HOW it was necessary, which was wrong! And in general ... that the government and personally Stalin ..... AND YOU WOULD NOT GO ...... WITH ALL SUCH AS SMART !!!!!

      I join Elena !!! I’m sure they didn’t have long to humiliate us all in the media, etc. ..How pigs will scream, running away from the wrath of the people! soldier