Why is the S-300 silent and the IDF returning to bases: Syrian air defense and Israeli air raids

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Why is the S-300 silent and the IDF returning to bases: Syrian air defense and Israeli air raids

The day before, another message came from Syria about the air attack to which the territory of the country was subjected. The monitoring group of the so-called Observatory for Human Rights (the organization itself, as you know, is based in London) has circulated reports that the strike inflicted aviation Of Israel. The report said that objects were attacked in the province of Homs.

It is noteworthy that the Syrian media claimed "detonation of ammunition on the ground due to errors made by the military during transportation."



Recall that a few days earlier, according to various foreign media reports, Israeli aircraft attacked Syrian territory. In at least one of these cases, the IDF has used Lebanese airspace.

In this connection, the question again arises about the effectiveness of the air defense system built in Syria, including the S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems delivered earlier by Russia. This is not about the effectiveness of the complexes as such, but about how the Syrian calculations operate in conditions where the enemy strikes, often without entering the airspace of the country?

Damascus understands that if Israel strikes, it “hunts” first of all not for the Syrian soldiers, but for Hezbollah.



One of the favorite places to attack is the territory of Damascus Airport, where airplanes from Iran land. In Israel, it is often said that weapons are supplied on such sides for the said group, and this leads to damage to the interests of Israeli security. IDF Air Force targets on Syrian soil attack from the air, and air defense SAR can only try to "catch" missiles launched from Israeli aircraft or strike UAVs. “Catch” comes out with varying success - in any attack, several missiles always reach their goal. But do they really want to intercept, that’s the question ...

If there was a clear desire, the Syrian air defense calculations could receive an order to destroy not rockets, but their carriers (there are possibilities). But, as already noted, carriers (for example, Israeli combat aircraft) attack objects in the ATS often from “non-Syrian” airspace. To use the same S-300s in this case is problematic for Damascus. And not because of the TTX S-300. One of the main reasons is the understanding by the Syrian authorities of the fact that if Israel is now trying to resist the strengthening of Iran in the country, then in the case of an Israeli plane shot down, it can proceed to completely different actions. For example, the total bombardment of the positions and targets of the SAA (the Syrian government army) with all the consequences for the combat effectiveness of the SAA.

Perhaps this explains the statement by the Syrian military that the explosions at a site in the Homs province are not the work of Israeli military pilots, but "accidental detonation due to an error in the transportation of ammunition."

In other words, Damascus itself has no particular reason to shoot down Israeli aircraft.

Strange conclusion?


Well then, I will allow myself another argument in his favor.

The SANA news agency reports that on the night of May 1, Israeli attack helicopters attacked several targets in the Kuneitra region (the Syrian part of the Golan Heights). In total, IDF helicopters fired five missiles. It would seem that no matter what the obvious goal for the air defense systems of the Syrian Arab Republic is? .. As they usually call: "And you shoot one so that the others will continue to think whether to bomb or not to bomb."

But Israeli helicopters, as you know, calmly returned to the airfields. S-300 and other air defense systems of Syria are silent. Okay - S-300 is far from Kuneitra. Well, and other systems in service with the ATS army? ..

And after that, data appeared on the Middle East resources about what goals the Israelis attacked. It turned out that here we are talking about pro-Iranian forces in Syria. According to these publications, the rockets exploded at the positions of the Shiite pro-Iranian police, which Israel is trying to squeeze out of its borders.

By and large, Damascus itself, with all its active cooperation with Tehran, is not particularly beneficial for Iran to strengthen its position in the country. After all, it is one thing to help in the fight against terrorism, and another is a “foreign” war, when Israel and Iran are trying to solve their problems using Syrian territory. Bashar al-Assad understands perfectly well that in this “alien” war he has no interests, and therefore, once again, as they say, he is not ready to be substituted.
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  1. +36
    2 May 2020 08: 40
    It doesn't matter what your biceps are and how much weight you squeeze. The important thing is whether you have the eggs and the determination to use your strength and skill if necessary.
    1. +46
      2 May 2020 08: 52
      The whole article explains why Israel can strike at a foreign sovereign country. In his reasoning, the author comes to the fact that it turns out to be even profitable for the Syrians (they rejoice at every bombing!).
      If the S-300 is not needed to repel enemy attacks on the country, why did the Syrians buy them?
      1. +39
        2 May 2020 08: 56
        According to the meaning of the article, obvious detractors can come to my house and beat my friends who have come to visit, because this is your showdown.
        1. +6
          2 May 2020 08: 58
          Judging by the article, this is exactly so.
        2. 0
          2 May 2020 09: 03
          Quote: AnpeL
          The meaning of the article .....

          "East is a delicate matter"
          1. The comment was deleted.
            1. +1
              2 May 2020 09: 42
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Not tired of stamps ??? Come on about the dog. When do the stamps run out ????? When the dogs DIE And the east disappears ????? I respect for komenty. but the line is not necessary

              Sergey, I still don’t understand what is not necessary?
              1. +6
                2 May 2020 09: 46
                Quote: sabakina
                Sergey, I still don’t understand what is not necessary?

                all clear
                Quote: sabakina
                edge is not necessary

                wink
                1. +3
                  2 May 2020 09: 50
                  Hi Sasha! Today's daylight? At first I thought about the edge on the glass. wink But then I remembered Corporal Svyatkin, "I don't, that's why I won't."
                  1. +4
                    2 May 2020 10: 05
                    Quote: sabakina
                    Hi Sasha! Today's daylight?

                    like everyone at home is sleeping, and I'm on duty soldier
                    Hey . Glory!
                    1. +1
                      2 May 2020 10: 09
                      For some reason, on this sunny May day, I would like to wish everyone peace and health!
                      1. +2
                        2 May 2020 10: 12
                        Quote: sabakina
                        I want everyone to wish peace and health!

                        Yes . the day is not bad.
                      2. 0
                        2 May 2020 12: 02
                        Quote: atalef
                        Yes . the day is not bad.


                        13% per annum.
                      3. +1
                        2 May 2020 12: 14
                        Quote: mikhailovich22
                        13% per annum.

                        well, the year is not over yet
                        as well
                        פתאל החזקות
                        24,000 9.84%
                        תמורה: 101,076,710
                        החודש: 97.04%

                        97% per month hi
                      4. 0
                        2 May 2020 14: 18
                        Quote: atalef
                        97% per month

                        Are you talking about withholding from the fee of Dev Patel?
              2. +1
                2 May 2020 13: 39
                He's about a dog, not about you;)
                1. +1
                  2 May 2020 14: 29
                  Quote: BoratSagdiev
                  He's about a dog, not about you

                  I did not turn to you for assistance, nothing, okay, thanks. YOU always seek everyone with clarifications?
                  1. +2
                    2 May 2020 14: 36
                    Of course, I extend a helping hand, so to speak ... paw and tail.
                    In our reality, the main thing is not to stretch your legs.
            2. +13
              2 May 2020 11: 09
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Not tired of stamps ??? Come on about the dog. When do the stamps run out ????? When the dogs DIE And the east disappears ????? I respect for komenty. but the line is not necessary

              Israel is better not to touch, but to praise .. laughing You can become a marshal .. !!!
              1. +1
                3 May 2020 04: 09
                Israel is better not to touch, but to praise ..

                If you touch Israel, then you can lose your bank account. Politics is so delicate that the East looks thick against its background. laughing
          2. +4
            2 May 2020 11: 05
            Quote: svp67
            Quote: AnpeL
            The meaning of the article .....

            "East is a delicate matter"

            Especially Israel Sergey))) People missed such articles ..
          3. 0
            2 May 2020 13: 51
            Beat your own so that strangers are afraid ...
          4. +3
            3 May 2020 13: 31
            -Vostok is a vile thing ... and not "thin" ...
        3. +3
          2 May 2020 09: 05
          The Jews are surely warning of their attacks on the territory of Syria by our military in order to avoid accidental casualties of our military personnel ... I am sure of this.
          How is this consistent with allied obligations to the Syrians with a moral point of view?what ... a split of consciousness can happen and then the patterns are broken in thinking in the field of politics ... it turns out you can calmly watch our allies bomb and do nothing ... this is a dirty business for a politician.
          1. +1
            2 May 2020 11: 10
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            The Jews are surely warning of their attacks on the territory of Syria by our military in order to avoid accidental casualties of our military personnel ... I am sure of this.

            What kind of warning and fluffy Won our IL with specialists were exposed to air defense, also warned?
            1. -2
              6 May 2020 01: 20
              Not framed. Konashenkov deceived you.
          2. 0
            2 May 2020 13: 42
            You do not tell all the secrets winked
          3. +3
            2 May 2020 13: 57
            You are absolutely right. The prestige of Russia is FALLING!
          4. +5
            3 May 2020 04: 43
            Politics should not be confused with its imitation-collaborators traitors who sold their homeland (USSR) for a dime and remained (with the consent of the occupier) watching.
        4. +3
          2 May 2020 09: 28
          Not a suitable analogy in the context of geopolitics.
        5. 0
          3 May 2020 04: 03
          According to the meaning of the article, obvious detractors can come to my house and beat my friends who have come to visit, because this is your showdown.

          Immediately the case of Skripale and Litvinenko remembered. laughing
          It turns out that you just had to shy away with something with a missile-bomb and everyone would say "Ok, this is your showdown." And the accompanying civilian casualties are inevitable. bully
      2. 0
        2 May 2020 09: 08
        About joy there is no word
      3. -1
        2 May 2020 09: 37
        Yes. I also liked it.
      4. +2
        2 May 2020 10: 37
        The author tried to suggest why Syrian air defense does not destroy Israeli planes and helicopters.
        And what do you think, why doesn’t it destroy?
        1. -2
          2 May 2020 14: 00
          They have already begun to laugh at the S-300. Yes, and the Syrians doubted ....
          1. +1
            3 May 2020 13: 25
            Quote: Starshina
            They have already begun to laugh at the S-300. Yes, and the Syrians doubted ....

            Yes, everyone already doubted.
      5. -2
        2 May 2020 10: 45
        You asked an important question. Why did they buy them and don’t use them? Can you tell me what the problem is? I suppose that after our silt is shot down, they are at all afraid of knocking someone down in someone else's airspace. For seeing the attack will decrease and substituting some other side does not cause problems.
        1. +1
          2 May 2020 14: 02
          Is not Russia responsible for the training of S-300 staff?
          1. 0
            3 May 2020 11: 01
            He answers. But he was shot down.
      6. 0
        2 May 2020 11: 17
        Have you bought?
        And even paid?
      7. +2
        2 May 2020 11: 47
        Quote: Stas157
        If the S-300 is not needed to repel enemy attacks on the country, why did the Syrians buy them?

        C-300 Syria did not buy. Systems were actually presented to them .. Syria's economy in ruins ..
      8. 0
        2 May 2020 13: 11
        Quote: Stas157
        why did the Syrians buy them?
        Reply

        Yes, they did not buy. They were delivered free of charge after they shot down Russian Il. And it is still not clear whether they have a trained crew for the S-300. After all, there were serious problems with the selection of personnel and their training.
        1. +2
          2 May 2020 14: 05
          Is not Russia responsible for this?
          1. 0
            2 May 2020 14: 14
            Quote: Starshina
            Is not Russia responsible for this?

            How can Russia be responsible for the lack of people with the proper level of education in Syria? Another thing is that before the delivery of the complex, one should think about how (and whether at all) it will be used? It stands there, for the amusement of the whole world, like three poplars ...
      9. -2
        2 May 2020 13: 41
        For beauty, of course, "bought".
        They love to show off in front of each other.
        Just like on a horse with a saber ...
        And even more so they didn’t buy it, but the big brother gave it to me. And that's even cooler.
        1. -1
          2 May 2020 20: 54
          Old senility, it was sarcasm)
      10. -1
        2 May 2020 13: 48
        Bravo! I have the same question. The prestige of Russian weapons is suffering !!!
      11. D16
        0
        2 May 2020 14: 40
        Quote: Stas157
        If the S-300 is not needed to repel enemy attacks on the country, why did the Syrians buy them?

        And the Russian Federation sold the S-300 SAR?
      12. +1
        2 May 2020 15: 06
        Quote: Stas157
        Bought

        bought ????
      13. +1
        2 May 2020 19: 17
        Quote: Stas157
        The whole article explains why Israel can strike at a foreign sovereign country. In his reasoning, the author comes to the fact that it turns out to be even profitable for the Syrians (they rejoice at every bombing!).
        If the S-300 is not needed to repel enemy attacks on the country, why did the Syrians buy them?

        Hi Stas! 157 ..
        We can assume .. Well, can you really?
        That there are borders beyond which Israel cannot go .... That’s why there stand with -300 and with-400! I would ask you in your place a different question ... And what is it, Iran swallows all insults, they urinate its people, and it Do not snarl? Look at the US bases shot back ..
        I think the Israeli plane can easily be shot down, but it will have to be fatally responsible for this!
        And our advisers, I think, keep Assad from such a move, especially since for him now it’s a priority not to butt with Israel, but to take control of the entire territory his
        State.
      14. 0
        5 May 2020 14: 47
        Ash stump! On horseradish ass accordion if pop is not a harmonist!
    2. +9
      2 May 2020 08: 54
      The one who turns the cheeks is beaten
      1. +1
        2 May 2020 11: 01
        Quote: Shurik70
        The one who turns the cheeks is beaten

        read in now in a book
        "do not take the position of guilty whores, they will be"
        (almost full-time quote from Ammo and food)
        1. +5
          2 May 2020 11: 13
          Quote: Maki Avellevich
          Quote: Shurik70
          The one who turns the cheeks is beaten

          read in now in a book
          "do not take the position of guilty whores, they will be"
          (almost full-time quote from Ammo and food)

          And from the Talmud quotes, do not bring Avelevich for the venerable public? We would be interested to read it all, once again .. wink And then somehow it began to be forgotten .. And you are so good in Israel, warn and treat militants even ..
          1. -4
            2 May 2020 11: 16
            Quote: Sovetikus
            And from the Talmud quotes, do not bring Avelevich for the venerable public? We would be interested to read this all over again ..

            Soveticus, if you show zeal, we begin in the place of the Old Testament to begin to study.
            Talmud is for those who have reached the 80th level.
            Shabbat shalom.
            1. +3
              2 May 2020 11: 26
              Quote: Maki Avellievich
              Soveticus, if you show zeal, we begin in the place of the Old Testament to begin to study.

              Dmitry . Vitalik Talmud for 6 years of communication in VO - knows by heart.
            2. +5
              2 May 2020 12: 08
              Quote: Maki Avellevich
              Quote: Sovetikus
              And from the Talmud quotes, do not bring Avelevich for the venerable public? We would be interested to read this all over again ..

              Soveticus, if you show zeal, we begin in the place of the Old Testament to begin to study.
              Talmud is for those who have reached the 80th level.
              Shabbat shalom.

              I understood everything .. Like "shut your filthy mouth"? laughing
          2. +4
            2 May 2020 15: 10
            Quote: Sovetikus
            And from the Talmud quotes, do not bring Avelevich for the venerable public?

            And the Talmud, what is translated into Russian?
            1. +5
              2 May 2020 16: 54
              http://tululu.org/a16596/
              Long
              Read, enjoy. I like the most:
              Do not seek glory in the disgrace of others.
              1. 0
                2 May 2020 17: 05
                Nice site, but..www.e-Reading mobi. an order of magnitude better. hi
                1. +1
                  2 May 2020 17: 36
                  Yes, on it I read Atlas squared his shoulders)).
                  1. 0
                    2 May 2020 17: 39
                    He seemed to have problems some time ago? How is it now? I’m a regular registered reader there, so I personally didn’t have any problems. But we had friends with you.
                    1. +1
                      2 May 2020 17: 48
                      I didn’t have it)): even though I am unregistered
                      1. 0
                        2 May 2020 17: 58
                        In vain. Access to download is an order of magnitude higher! Faced, I know. hi
                      2. +1
                        2 May 2020 18: 19
                        The fact is that most books in On Line mode can be read if not on one resource, then on the second or third))
                        Download, then to read on the plane, say, while there is no need. Yes, and on paper at home there is still a lot of everything not re-read.
                      3. 0
                        2 May 2020 19: 55
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        on paper at home is still a bunch of everything not re-read.

                        Ek, you, Albert, have designated the books! laughing The prices for them are now of course exorbitant. And I download, and * in reserve *, because there is no certainty that this resource will work tomorrow. Well, good luck!
                      4. +2
                        2 May 2020 20: 05
                        Yes, I bought myself a reserve in "good times". laughing
    3. +7
      2 May 2020 09: 01
      Quote: Sentry73
      The important thing is whether you have the eggs and the determination to use your strength and skill if necessary.

      And here questions already arise to Iran. If the allied and even units you control are constantly exposed to air strikes, then is it worth it to train your air defense forces to intercept them? And Iran has such opportunities, but it does not use them, why?
      1. 0
        2 May 2020 09: 08
        Quote: svp67
        is it worth it can train your air defense forces to intercept them? And Iran has such opportunities, but it does not use them, why?

      2. +2
        2 May 2020 10: 17
        Trite can not have such air defense
      3. 0
        2 May 2020 11: 50
        Quote: svp67
        And Iran has such opportunities, but it does not use them, why?

        This will lead to full-scale clashes, which is unprofitable for Iran ..
        1. +4
          2 May 2020 13: 56
          Quote: lonely
          This will lead to full-scale clashes, which is unprofitable for Iran ..

          I beg you ... to fire missiles at US bases on foreign territory, in response to the killing of its servicemen by the IRGC "ZYa", and for the same murders to shoot down missiles that bring them death is "NO". Where is the logic?
          1. -2
            2 May 2020 14: 11
            Quote: svp67
            I beg you ... to fire rockets at US bases in foreign territory, in response to the killing of their soldiers by the IRGC "ZYa"

            They’re not shelling themselves, they are using pro-Iranian groups in Iraq .. This is not the same thing
            Quote: svp67
            and for the same murders to shoot down missiles bringing them death - "NOZYA". Where is the logic?

            You can shoot down missiles ... But there is one thing ... Israel’s technical superiority allows it to jam all Iran’s air defense and missile defense systems .. That's why they don’t shoot down .. There is nothing to oppose to electronic warfare systems
            1. +2
              2 May 2020 14: 21
              Quote: lonely
              They’re not shelling themselves, they are using pro-Iranian groups in Iraq .. This is not the same thing

              Come on ... the first blow was struck from the territory of Iran, no one hid it, but even flaunted it. And excuse me, the same missiles, they will not officially shoot down, but "pro-Iranian groups"
              1. +1
                2 May 2020 14: 28
                Quote: svp67
                Come on ... the first blow was delivered from Iran, no one hid it, but even flaunted it.

                that's right ... the first strike was delivered by tactical missiles .. But before that, Iran informed the Iraqi government that where and when the missile strike would be delivered ... It was a screen for the internal public .. Those who strike, strike it without any warning
                Quote: svp67
                And excuse me, the same missiles, they will not officially shoot down, but "pro-Iranian groups"

                What will they bring down? All missile defense and air defense are suppressed and turned into a pile of useless metal .. Do you think if they had the opportunity, they would not have brought down?
                1. 0
                  2 May 2020 14: 35
                  Quote: lonely
                  All missile defense and defense are suppressed and turned into a pile of useless metal ..

                  No, if something starts to jam, it’s exactly the same starts to receive in response ...
                  1. 0
                    2 May 2020 14: 44
                    Can you name some sort of electronic warfare system in Iran?
                    1. +1
                      2 May 2020 14: 48
                      Quote: lonely
                      Can you name some sort of electronic warfare system in Iran?

                      Of course ... KREB "Avtobaza"
                      1. 0
                        2 May 2020 14: 56
                        Quote: svp67
                        Of course ... KREB "Avtobaza"

                        Well, what do you think, why then they do not shoot down missiles? Is there an air defense system, there are CREBs, but missiles do not go off ... Do you think there is no desire to shoot them down? I don’t think .. I assume that there are no Iranian CREBs in Syria .. Iran needs them in its own territory .. That's all
                2. 0
                  2 May 2020 14: 58
                  About the use of electronic warfare and air defense, I propose to re-look.
                  And in Syria, Israel and Russia are solid agreements. It is the magazine bothers among themselves who are cast out on this occasion, but the Moscow Region or official means of neither Syria, nor Israel, nor Russia in words.
                  1. +1
                    2 May 2020 16: 09
                    Quote: Spectrum
                    And in Syria, Israel and Russia are solid agreements. It is the magazine bothers among themselves who are cast out on this occasion, but the Moscow Region or official means of neither Syria, nor Israel, nor Russia in words.

                    How about Turkey? There is also not a single plane shot down. Turkish.
                    1. +1
                      2 May 2020 18: 33
                      The same Faberge, only a side view.
      4. +1
        2 May 2020 13: 15
        Quote: svp67
        but he doesn’t use them, why?

        The simplest answer is to use what is in reality, and not in words.
      5. 0
        2 May 2020 14: 08
        Russia is responsible for air defense with an unparalleled S-300 ....
      6. 0
        2 May 2020 15: 12
        Quote: svp67
        worth can train their air defense forces to intercept them

        Already trained in the Ukrainians.
    4. -3
      2 May 2020 09: 07
      Don't talk about eggs, otherwise there are comrades who are not indifferent to them, they will "trample" you !!! laughing I somehow had no caution to write about them, so the blue rivers of criticism poured into me
    5. +6
      2 May 2020 09: 19
      Apparently Assad is afraid to provoke Israel into a massive attack on its facilities.
      1. +2
        2 May 2020 11: 10
        Quote: Civil
        Apparently Assad is afraid to provoke Israel into a massive attack on its facilities.

        That's for sure, there’s nothing to provoke us. fellow
      2. +6
        2 May 2020 11: 21
        Quote: Civil
        Apparently Assad is afraid to provoke Israel into a massive attack on its facilities.

        Most likely Russia is afraid .. The Jewish lobby in Russia is very strong! It’s not for nothing that Netanyaho is constantly in Russia, how he wants to agree to work ..
        1. +2
          2 May 2020 11: 31
          Quote: Sovetikus
          It’s not for nothing that Netanyaho is constantly in Russia, how he wants to agree to work ..

          List of goals gets wassat
          First-hand.
          1. +7
            2 May 2020 12: 10
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Sovetikus
            It’s not for nothing that Netanyaho is constantly in Russia, how he wants to agree to work ..

            List of goals gets wassat
            First-hand.

            So yes and oh wei ... They themselves said about it, mind you .. wink
            1. -1
              2 May 2020 12: 19
              Quote: Sovetikus
              You said it yourself, mind you ..

              so what am I against?
              1. +2
                2 May 2020 13: 42
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: Sovetikus
                You said it yourself, mind you ..

                so what am I against?

                Well, if you can detail, where did your trip go wrong? wink
        2. +1
          2 May 2020 12: 10
          Quote: Sovetikus
          Quote: Civil
          Apparently Assad is afraid to provoke Israel into a massive attack on its facilities.

          Most likely Russia is afraid .. The Jewish lobby in Russia is very strong! It’s not for nothing that Netanyaho is constantly in Russia, how he wants to agree to work ..

          Meehan ?! "I recognize brother Kolya"
          1. +1
            2 May 2020 15: 14
            [quote = Normal ok] [quote = Sovetikus]
            Meehan ?! "I recognize brother Kolya" [/ quote]
            Shh. Everyone knows about this, but it is recommended to be silent.
        3. 0
          3 May 2020 04: 59
          Can instruct? -More like, do not flatter your "maybe?" - just the stakes are high and the rules of the Game require the appropriate form (strategy). Remember the remark of the President of the United States to the British Prime Minister, (at a funeral in the USSR) - "next year, this same place! " everything goes according to plan and there is no hurry: we bury and bury !.
        4. 0
          3 May 2020 05: 04
          Not Russia, but Moscow.
      3. -2
        2 May 2020 14: 10
        Is Russia an ally or is there a bench press point in front of Israel?
        1. 0
          2 May 2020 16: 58
          Quote: Starshina
          Is Russia an ally or is there a bench press point in front of Israel?

          Not an ally. Rent for the Zmeymim bases and in Tartus is paid mainly by Assad's military support.
        2. 0
          3 May 2020 04: 55
          Not Russia, but Moscow (the stable of Trojan horses) - two big differences.
        3. +2
          3 May 2020 05: 03
          No one will remember Russia until circumstances take the balls with one hand, the Adam's apple with the other, and immediately the inspiration: "brothers and sisters!" - the barrels of guns from the world war did not have time to cool down, and the "brothers and sisters" are either enemies or are no longer needed, a victory parade for myself "I won," and I banned the demonstration of the workers of Moscow, what do you have to do with this? -Jewish lackey, not a usurper. And talk about "these" and say only water in a mortar.
    6. +3
      3 May 2020 04: 07
      Sovereignty and subjectivity, as a result, were lost during the surrender of the USSR - this was the basic condition that the rats "acquired" behind the Kremlin plinths, hence the "oil painting".
    7. +1
      3 May 2020 20: 43
      It is important that besides the eggs you had a head to calculate the consequences of your actions
    8. 0
      7 May 2020 03: 10
      The colossus with feet of clay has long had no determination, no strength, no skill.
  2. +9
    2 May 2020 08: 57
    Iran is not responding. Then why should Syria react?
    Yes, and the Russian Federation is not profitable to strengthen the influence of Iran in the region.
    A large part of the "Russian elite" have Israeli citizenship. And the leadership of the Russian Federation also has to reckon with this.
    1. +2
      2 May 2020 09: 02
      Quote: knn54
      Iran is not responding. Then why should Syria react?
      Yes, and the Russian Federation is not profitable to strengthen the influence of Iran in the region.

      T.E. everyone likes it and everyone is happy with it?
      1. +10
        2 May 2020 09: 24
        Some people like to receive cradles, others like to give them away ... Obviously, we live in the era of masochism ...
        1. 0
          2 May 2020 11: 02
          Quote: sabakina
          Some people like to receive cradles, others like to give them away ... Obviously, we live in the era of masochism ...

          successful symbiosis.
          1. +1
            3 May 2020 04: 52
            A worldview breakdown, disavowal of the ideas of the left orientation (workers' republics) and the triumph of the right-wing fascists, the last religion of the Third Rome-Dollar! -The Stalinist method of playing the slides and achieved its result, the children of a hamburger and Pepsi-Cola (triumphant bourgeoisie) were born, their fathers- Torgsin's children.
        2. -2
          2 May 2020 14: 13
          Masochists will soon get tired of buying useless S-300s ....
      2. +1
        2 May 2020 11: 23
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: knn54
        Iran is not responding. Then why should Syria react?
        Yes, and the Russian Federation is not profitable to strengthen the influence of Iran in the region.

        T.E. everyone likes it and everyone is happy with it?

        No, of course, just waiting in the wings X and building up strength ... bully
        1. +2
          2 May 2020 11: 40
          Quote: Sovetikus
          we accumulate strength

          1. +6
            2 May 2020 12: 04
            Not funny Atalef ... And rude hi Does your gang actively minus me?
            1. +2
              2 May 2020 12: 16
              Quote: Sovetikus
              Not funny Atalef ... And rude

              but honestly
              Quote: Sovetikus
              Does your gang actively minus me?

              vitalik, why the hell am I going to minus you?
              Yes, I’m with my rating and I can’t do a minus. no pluses. laughing
              1. +10
                2 May 2020 12: 26
                Quote: atalef
                but honestly

                Well, how can I say, I don’t post your pictures here ..)))
                Quote: atalef
                Well why the hell am I going to minus you?
                Yes, I’m with my rating and I can’t do a minus. no pluses.

                Well, you are calculating me here and sending the corresponding reports through the channels .. bully And then a matter of technology ..
                That's how much he promised, don’t touch Israel you will live .. But I can’t read you calmly and there are a lot of you sitting here who teach us life ... As in our media, don’t switch everywhere Jews sit and maliciously .. Here are things in synagogues Russia! (Joke))))
                1. +1
                  2 May 2020 12: 35
                  Quote: Sovetikus
                  Well, how can I say, I don’t post your pictures here.

                  Vitalik, do not flatter yourself.
                  You are much older and your sofa is squeezed
                  Quote: Sovetikus
                  Well, you are calculating me here and sending the corresponding reports through the channels

                  Vitalik, you’ll even be deaf-mute
                  Quote: Sovetikus
                  That's how much he promised, don’t touch Israel you will live

                  you are a slave to temptations

                  Quote: Sovetikus
                  and here a lot of you are sitting, they teach us life.

                  it's hard for you, lying on the couch - to learn life.
                  Quote: Sovetikus
                  .As in our media, do not switch everywhere Jews sit and maliciously ..Here are such things in the synagogues of Russia

                  1. +5
                    2 May 2020 13: 28
                    Quote: atalef
                    Do not flatter yourself.
                    You are much older and your sofa is squeezed

                    But the truth is squeezed .. laughing
                    Quote: atalef
                    you are a slave to temptations

                    Goy, let me correct you. Do you think we are?
                    Quote: atalef
                    it's hard for you, lying on the couch - to learn life.

                    Oh, hard atalef, especially reading people like you in all "our" media .. negative
                    You quickly concentrate on all the resources .. There, your professor didn’t get sick with the case, something disappeared .. hi
                    And Maz too ..
                    1. +1
                      2 May 2020 16: 15
                      Quote: Sovetikus
                      Goy, let me correct you. Do you think we are?

                      of course, goy.
                      A goy is neither a Jew.
                      how strange would it be to consider you not a gay? those. Jew, Vitalik - do you need this?
                      Quote: Sovetikus
                      And Maz too ..

                      yes, what about the maz?
        2. -2
          2 May 2020 14: 16
          That is, they will rape you and you wait for what the neighbor will do?
    2. -3
      2 May 2020 13: 18
      Quote: knn54
      A large part of the "Russian elite" have Israeli citizenship.

      Very interesting! Do not tell me who exactly?
      1. +4
        2 May 2020 13: 30
        Quote: shahor
        Quote: knn54
        A large part of the "Russian elite" have Israeli citizenship.

        Very interesting! Do not tell me who exactly?

        And you look at the faces of the elite and their wives and everything will become clear .. wink
        1. +1
          2 May 2020 13: 33
          Quote: Sovetikus
          And you look at the faces of the elite and their wives and everything will become clear ..

          And yet, specifically?
    3. +2
      3 May 2020 04: 46
      The colorants do not have and did not have a Homeland, but there are patrons. Curators, found the elite in the rubbish of the trampled and smeared nomenclature,
  3. +2
    2 May 2020 08: 58
    Well, vinaigrette ... everything is against everyone. I won’t be surprised if, in a month, the coalition of Iran and the United States leads a face about the Syrian-Israeli federation and the Saudis who have joined them smile
    1. +4
      2 May 2020 09: 09
      All world wars are vinaigrette, each pursues its own interest. And this war is no exception
    2. +1
      2 May 2020 14: 18
      Well, are you bent?
  4. -2
    2 May 2020 09: 05
    Can Iran introduce its air defense into Syria and cover the same airfield?
    1. 0
      2 May 2020 09: 11
      Quote: LKW UE
      Can Iran introduce its air defense into Syria and cover the same airfield?

      IDF strike target - Iranian air defense in Syria
      Israeli strike target - Iranian air defense systems in Syria

      Intelligence officers said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal that Iran’s air defense systems in Syria were targeted last week.
      http://mignews.com/news/politic/180418_70530_54417.html
    2. 0
      2 May 2020 13: 20
      Quote: LKW UE
      Can Iran introduce its air defense into Syria and cover the same airfield?

      And who will cover the airfield in Iran?
    3. -1
      2 May 2020 14: 20
      And in Iran, which air defense systems are not the same that do not have analogues of the S-300?
      1. 0
        2 May 2020 17: 02
        They have long had some Bavars there and their own crafts under the S-300 are ineffective.
  5. +12
    2 May 2020 09: 10
    Well, after all, the anecdote that "Kuzhugetich, let's zhahnem in Voronezh, there are definitely no ours" did not appear from scratch. Or did the CIA also come up with it?
    1. +3
      2 May 2020 11: 26
      Quote: g_ae
      Well, after all, the anecdote that "Kuzhugetich, let's zhahnem in Voronezh, there are definitely no ours" did not appear from scratch. Or did the CIA also come up with it?

      Jews usually come up with jokes and then laugh at us ... They know how to subtly humiliate them, like here on the site .. We have nothing to do with the fact that there is no water in the tap))))) lol
  6. +11
    2 May 2020 09: 33
    Conclusions:
    1) any PR "but now the Syrians with the C300 will show everyone" is a lie.
    nifiga not shown.
    2) As a last resort, they could show: "the planes are down, but on the other hand, that's how wonderful it shoots down missiles ..."
    but also not shown. Doesn't knock down ....
    3) Israel can use someone else's space - for some reason, Syria cannot.
    4) inconspicuous ammunition, such as gliding bombs, are generally almost indestructible.
    1. 0
      2 May 2020 14: 22
      Are you right there are so many questions to Russia?
  7. +4
    2 May 2020 09: 55
    East business is muddy, it’s understandable. Politicians decide everything, this is also understandable.
    There are questions to the military, of course, but only after politicians ... and only if the former deign to answer.
    About the fact that the Syrian government does not really need a real fight with Israel right now, because ... it’s not necessary, you don’t even have to remind.
    1. +4
      2 May 2020 12: 15
      Quote: rocket757
      East business is muddy, it’s understandable. Politicians decide everything, this is also understandable.

      Especially Israel .. wink
      Quote: rocket757
      There are questions to the military, of course, but only after politicians ... and only if the former deign to answer.
      About the fact that the Syrian government does not really need a real fight with Israel right now, because ... it’s not necessary, you don’t even have to remind.

      Here you are, Victor, how they covert the answer and you won’t understand)))))
      And here I’m burning the uterus and the result will soon be reciprocal .. Yes, and the Talmud with them .. wassat drinks
      1. +3
        2 May 2020 12: 26
        Everything is just like a perpendicular.
        The Syrian army cannot be distracted by military operations against a stronger Israeli army, it will be the collapse of the plans of the Syrian, ours, leadership to restore Syrian statehood.
        This is the most basic.
        1. +3
          2 May 2020 13: 33
          Quote: rocket757
          Everything is just like a perpendicular.
          The Syrian army cannot be distracted by military operations against a stronger Israeli army, it will be the collapse of the plans of the Syrian, ours, leadership to restore Syrian statehood.
          This is the most basic.

          Well, it’s difficult to argue something while such a political situation ...
          Well, I want to answer, but there is NO order yet ..
      2. 0
        2 May 2020 13: 28
        Quote: Sovetikus
        And here I’m burning the uterus

        Yes, you are not the truth in the womb ... of that. You express your opinion. And in the Middle East, everyone has their own truth. And everyone is right in his own way. Well, there is no black and white! And if you don’t understand this, then you’ll have to hang out there before the carrot jam. Russia has its own pragmatic interests. Among them, there is no Assad personally. But even with all that, we’re getting deeper and deeper ...
        1. +1
          2 May 2020 13: 52
          What is air defense in the normal, classical sense of the matter. This is a COMPLEX of organizational and technical measures aimed at ensuring full protection of the country, territory, facility !!!
          I can write down the points that there should be and what is there, in Syria NO! As a result, it turns out that there are half of the necessary NO, for objective and subjective reasons! Specifically, our combat base, we do not take into account at all, for objective reasons!
          Also, in pursuit. The experience of training the military contingent of the Arab military ..... not what I want to discuss, for subjective reasons.
          Quote: Sovetikus
          Well, I want to answer, but there is NO order yet

          soldier
    2. 0
      2 May 2020 14: 25
      If Russia can’t put Israel in its place, then everyone will be blamed on Syria ..
      1. +1
        2 May 2020 14: 54
        Are you seriously affected by the question of Israel’s place in the region where we don’t really need anything? For objective reasons, by the way.
        If you really care so much .... why actually?
  8. +9
    2 May 2020 09: 57
    What is there to think? C300 are silent, because they can’t react in any way. Here they somehow neighed with kih patreots, who allegedly snapped Iranian missiles at the Saidov refinery.
    In the case of the Syrian C300, the situation is the same, there are blind spots, it is possible to bypass the air defense zone, which the Jews are doing. And I don’t need to write here about the best air defense in the world, that’s all rubbish.
    1. +7
      2 May 2020 10: 21
      A reasonable explanation ... To compete with Israel, it’s not to shoot down targets on exercises ...
    2. +2
      2 May 2020 11: 13
      Quote: Maas
      In the case of the Syrian C300 the same situation, there are blind spots

    3. +2
      2 May 2020 12: 18
      Quote: Maas
      What is there to think? C300 are silent, because they can’t react in any way. Here they somehow neighed with kih patreots, who allegedly snapped Iranian missiles at the Saidov refinery.
      In the case of the Syrian C300, the situation is the same, there are blind spots, it is possible to bypass the air defense zone, which the Jews are doing. And I don’t need to write here about the best air defense in the world, that’s all rubbish.

      Well, Bandera started singing or from the Crimean Tatars .. What a restless one!
      CRIMEA OUR! How do you think ?
    4. -1
      2 May 2020 13: 38
      Quote: Maas
      In the case of the Syrian C300, the situation is the same, there are blind spots, it is possible to bypass the air defense zone, which the Jews are doing. And I don’t need to write here about the best air defense in the world, that’s all rubbish.

      So Israel does not fly into Syria ..
      They are shooting from Lebanon! This does not tell you anything. "You are our admirer" of Israel and every Bandera ...?
      Snoop, soak necessarily !!! Especially if it will be F-35 .. It’s what the rocket launchers on the remote controls are waiting for!
      1. -1
        6 May 2020 06: 12
        Sometimes they fly into Syria. Soak F-35 is possible only in wet dreams especially stubborn hooray-patriots.
    5. +4
      2 May 2020 13: 40
      Quote: Maas
      And I don’t need to write here about the best air defense in the world, that’s all rubbish.

      I agree with you. On VO a few days ago, a note from the Reporter was published on the Israeli raid on Syria - and for the first time in a long time they entered Syrian airspace from the Golan. BukM2 was unable to capture intruders due to the strongest electronic countermeasures. Makes me think...
      1. 0
        2 May 2020 18: 54
        In the exercises, I tuned out from interference, passive and mutual. Thus ruined the receiver of social. Technically, the target rocket was not observed. But the planes fought back clearly.
        1. 0
          2 May 2020 23: 57
          Quote: huntsman650
          But the planes fought back clearly.

          As Suvorov said, it’s easy in exercises, it’s hard in battle ... The beech is the same with which you fought, and the obstacles (or whatever) are different.
    6. 0
      2 May 2020 14: 28
      Hey, be careful, what about having no analogues? It's a military secret ...
  9. +2
    2 May 2020 10: 13
    Well, if after the incident with the Il-20, they waved their hands only, but made a formidable appearance, they would have to iron the CAA's positions, declaring that they were fighting the Iranian threat. This is generally a holy cause.
    It has long been clear what nationality the majority of rulers in Russia in the government and the State Duma
    1. 0
      2 May 2020 10: 23
      Quote: Al Asad
      Well, if after the incident with the IL-20, only waved the handles

      All questions to air defense of Syria
      Quote: Al Asad
      It has long been clear what nationality the majority of rulers in Russia in the government and the State Duma

      Syrians, or what?
    2. 0
      2 May 2020 14: 31
      A LION is sick if Hyenas bite him by the tail?
    3. -1
      2 May 2020 15: 21
      Quote: Al Asad
      it is clear what nationality the majority of rulers in Russia in the government and the State Duma

      And who chose them? Aren't the Russians really?
    4. -2
      6 May 2020 06: 17
      Is Putin a Jew? And isn't he standing at the head of the Russian state? And Shoigu? And the beginning. General Staff Gerasimov? And about the tragedy with IL-20 Konashenkov deceived you. There, all the blame is on the Russian military and partly on Syrian performers. Israel is completely out of business there. They lied to him.
  10. +5
    2 May 2020 10: 21
    ... the Syrian media claimed "detonation of ammunition on the ground due to military errors in transportation."

    Well, wrong. It happens. What is there in vain to build puzzles?

    But on the second case given in the article, one can speculate.

    Shortly after midnight on May 1, Syrian media reported that Israeli Air Force helicopters attacked several military targets in the Kuneitra region.

    SANA reported that three to five missiles were launched towards the targets. The official statement said that as a result of the attack there were no killed or wounded, but material damage was caused.


    As you know, El Quneitra was returned to Syria under the Treaty on the separation of forces between Israel and Syria on May 31, 1974 and has since been in the neutral demilitarized strip between the Israeli and Syrian borders controlled by the United Nations Disengagement Observer Force (UNDOF), established by UN Security Council Resolution 350 of May 31, 1974, at the end of the Doomsday War in the Golan Heights in accordance with the Disengagement Agreement between Israel and Syria .


    Of course, the question arises, how are these "several military targets" appearing on the UN-controlled territory? Israel has repeatedly asked the UN for clarification, but has not heard anything intelligible.
    It turned out that the Al-Jazeera brigade and the Shiite pro-Iranian militia of Hezbollah had established positions in this area.
    Israel had to gently but clearly and persistently make it clear to the Iranians and their associates that they have nothing to do in the demilitarized zone. From here and "As a result of the attack, no one was killed or wounded, but material damage was caused." Apparently, the signal was heard and understood correctly. hi
    1. +1
      2 May 2020 17: 24
      Greetings! hi
      UN troops from there washed away at the beginning of the Civil War, their base was occupied by Ishilovites from Shuad aYarmuk. In 2016, they fired on Israelis in the Golan, after which the base was destroyed by Hale Avir. After occupying these positions by pro-Iranian formations, it makes no sense to turn to the UN - an organization impotent in terms of the implementation of any decisions. Hezbollons from there will have to make Israel itself.
      1. 0
        2 May 2020 20: 07
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Greetings!
        UN troops from there washed away at the beginning of the Civil War, their base was occupied by Ishilovites from Shuad aYarmuk. In 2016, they fired on Israelis in the Golan, after which the base was destroyed by Hale Avir. After occupying these positions by pro-Iranian formations, it makes no sense to turn to the UN - an organization impotent in terms of the implementation of any decisions. Hezbollons from there will have to make Israel itself.

        Hello to you too! drinks
        It is true that after the bandits in 2014 captured 45 observers, the rest quickly retreated to our territory. The prisoners were later released through the mediation of Jordan, but the observers refused to return to Kuneitra for four years. Since 2018, they are gradually returning to their base.

        There are now almost half of all observers. The rest are sitting with us and drinking beer. fellow
        1. +2
          2 May 2020 20: 10
          So they came back and give the Hezbollons work there? The UN in its repertoire of duplicitous, feeble freaks
  11. -1
    2 May 2020 10: 26
    Why is the S-300 silent and the IDF returning to bases: Syrian air defense and Israeli air raids

    Really, why? Why do not alien planes fly over the DPRK and it does not occur to anyone to bombard the territory of North Korea despite rumors of the death of Un? Jerks are always given jerks.
    Actually, why did we suddenly become concerned about the moral principles of the nation that is hated all over the world, who even learned to mark everyone who was sick of these “7.40”?
    So we ask ourselves that they did us good for free?
    1. +3
      2 May 2020 10: 39
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Really, why? Why do not alien planes fly over the DPRK

      weird question. maybe they fly, how do you know?
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Does it ever occur to anyone to bombard North Korea despite rumors of Eun's demise?

      and who needs the DPRK at all?
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Jerks are always given jerks.

      Well, the jerks will neither fly nor shoot.
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Actually, what suddenly we were concerned about the moral principles of the people hated all over the world

      Envy is a bad thing.
      Quote: ROSS 42
      who even learned to label everyone who is sick of these "7.40"?


      Quote: ROSS 42
      So we ask ourselves that they did us good for free?

      good for money, much better than bad for nothing laughing
    2. 0
      2 May 2020 14: 35
      The position of the Senior Friend is not clear where is she?
  12. +3
    2 May 2020 10: 50
    Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
    The author tried to suggest why Syrian air defense does not destroy Israeli planes and helicopters.
    And what do you think, why doesn’t it destroy?

    Zarathustra does not allow .... am wassat
    1. 0
      2 May 2020 14: 37
      Does curvature of the earth's surface interfere? ha ha ha ...
  13. 0
    2 May 2020 10: 56
    Quote: raw174
    A reasonable explanation ... To compete with Israel, it’s not to shoot down targets on exercises ...

    Here! Many thanks to Israel for the quality testing of the equipment! The more air defense systems he destroys, the better for us. Since it will not do much harm, and the "fog of war" will dissipate and it will be possible to bring the systems to real combat use.
    1. 0
      2 May 2020 11: 11
      Quote: meandr51
      Here! Many thanks to Israel for the quality testing of the equipment! The more air defense systems he destroys, the better for us. Since it will not do much harm, and the "fog of war" will dissipate and it will be possible to bring the systems to real combat use.

      maybe when it even starts, maybe even in combat conditions.
    2. +1
      2 May 2020 14: 04
      Quote: meandr51
      Here! Many thanks to Israel for the quality testing of equipment!

      Yes, if the Soviet, and behind it, the Russian military strategy looked back at Israel and waited for its testing, we would use Shilka. Here on the VO website there was material about a layered air defense system using both the S-400,500, and the S-350, and the last echelon - the "Shell" ... a single S-300 cannot be the country's air defense system. That is why the Jewish military with impunity "test" and "test" Syria, alluding to some Iranian weapons supplied to some terrorists. Attention, question:
      "Why are these" valiant "knights of heaven engaged in testing Syria from Lebanon, and why they do not show such zeal directly in Iran when the goods are at the sender?"
      belay request
      1. -2
        6 May 2020 06: 34
        Iran is very far away. And Syria is nearby. Therefore, it is much simpler there. In Syria, air defense includes Shell (like the Torah is also there), Buki and S-300. Full set. What else do you need?
    3. -1
      2 May 2020 14: 38
      And they can definitely be brought to real use?
  14. +5
    2 May 2020 11: 07
    Recently, an article was published at the Military Institute that Syrian air defense systems do not see hexagon missiles, and work only on false targets. But thanks to the Chinese radar, two missiles were discovered and shot down.
    I doubt that they do not specifically touch. All the same, they cannot, for technical reasons, outplay the cunning hexagons. From behind the forest from behind the mountains, a Jew showed an ax ....
    And here excuses write to us))) why it doesn’t peck))) then the wind, then the pressure)))
    1. -1
      2 May 2020 11: 33
      Quote: huntsman650
      But thanks to the Chinese radar, two missiles were discovered and shot down.

      and killed himself
      The Israeli Air Force F-35I Adir fighter attacked the Chinese early warning radar JY-27 in Syria. Destruction of the radar was confirmed by satellite images.

      The radar worked in the Syrian air defense system and was intended for the early detection of air targets - including those made using stealth technologies. JY-27 - broadband two-coordinate early warning radar. The radar operates in the VHF band.

      In 2006, Syria acquired a batch of Chinese radars to strengthen the capabilities of troops in areas bordering Turkey.
      1. D16
        0
        2 May 2020 16: 48
        and killed himself

        And then how Lazarus rose from the dead laughing https://topwar.ru/157039-utverzhdaetsja-chto-unichtozhennyj-raketoj-f-35-kitajskij-jy-27-prodolzhaet-rabotu.html
      2. +1
        2 May 2020 18: 49
        Killed or killed, what's the difference. The radar, as an early warning system, is of course always needed, but what good is it if it does not have protective equipment. Any air defense or missile defense system must be able to protect not only some objects, but also defend itself. So China has created just a bad warning system.
    2. 0
      2 May 2020 14: 41
      But what about the unmatched STAR channel that will sue you?
  15. +1
    2 May 2020 11: 13
    Why is the S-300 silent and the IDF returning to bases: Syrian air defense and Israeli air raids

    Syria: Russian radars do not see Israeli missiles - they succeed in knocking down thanks to China
    Read more at: http://avia.pro/news/siriya-rossiyskie-radary-ne-vidyat-izrailskie-rakety-sbivat-ih-udayotsya-blagodarya-kitayu?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com
    1. +1
      2 May 2020 18: 43
      Do you really believe reports of the henchmen of the West?
  16. +2
    2 May 2020 11: 17
    [quote = atalef] [quote = ROSS 42]
    [quote = ROSS 42] does it ever occur to anyone to bombard North Korea despite rumors of Eun's death? [/ quote]
    and who needs the DPRK at all?
    [quote = ROSS 42]. [/ quote]

    If it was not needed, then 3 AN would not be driven to it and the teachings of "Tim Spirit" would not be arranged every year. They would not be strangled with terrible sanctions and would not even remember about it. In fact, everything is the opposite. For some reason, the health of dear leader Kim is of great concern to everyone, including the President of the United States ...
    1. +2
      2 May 2020 14: 45
      KIM doesn’t throw words into the wind as he doesn’t seem to care much. It’s not known who the US respects Russia or North Korea more?
  17. 0
    2 May 2020 11: 25
    If Syria hits a plane, Israel can go to war. Will we get involved? And Iran? Iran can and would like, but only it is far away, they will have to go through Iraq, and there the Americans and NATO
    1. +1
      2 May 2020 11: 34
      Shot down one couple years ago
      1. -2
        2 May 2020 11: 35
        Quote: Kronos
        Shot down one couple years ago

        And a year ago they shot down.
        1. -1
          2 May 2020 11: 37
          I mean it seems in 2018 was or at the beginning of 2019
          1. -1
            2 May 2020 11: 41
            Quote: Kronos
            I mean it seems in 2018 was or at the beginning of 2019

            what plane are you talking about?
    2. 0
      2 May 2020 14: 47
      Do you think they should be patience?
  18. 0
    2 May 2020 12: 20
    politics is a dark thing ...
  19. 0
    2 May 2020 12: 37
    ... Israel and Iran are trying to solve their problems using the Syrian territory.

    This is only one part of the "muddy war" in Syrian territory, where about a dozen participants pursue their own interests, in most cases not coinciding with the interests of Syria itself.
    1. 0
      2 May 2020 14: 50
      And where are the loud protests and actions of Russia?
  20. 0
    2 May 2020 12: 41
    Quote: LKW UE
    Can Iran introduce its air defense into Syria and cover the same airfield?

    Maybe just what it will give and what it can introduce. There are not so many new ones to transfer them also to Syria. And the junk of the Israeli Air Force is not a hindrance.
    1. 0
      2 May 2020 14: 51
      But these are not the same S-300?
  21. +2
    2 May 2020 13: 44
    The author has the ostrich’s position, the more we are beaten, the more we grow stronger. But the fact that the prestige of the Russian Arms suffers is nothing? Why do they need air defense and the S-300 in particular?
  22. 0
    2 May 2020 13: 44
    The option that not everything is knocked down (only to distract the eyes) is not considered?
    Especially when air defense is tested in opposition to the enemy ...
  23. +1
    2 May 2020 14: 15
    He has nothing to say, though ... silence can also be eloquent. If the partners agree, then silence is gold (well, if at least so). However, in about fifty years they will write about this in textbooks on recent history, in the latest textbooks. In the meantime, isolate yourself from this.
  24. +2
    2 May 2020 15: 12
    Quote: Starshina
    Does curvature of the earth's surface interfere? ha ha ha ...

    Yeah. To the guarantor. wassat
  25. -1
    2 May 2020 16: 20
    Sorry for Russia. Israel will also have to feed and protect. on the other hand there will still be overseas territory. the question is, only do we need Israel as part of Russia?
    1. +5
      2 May 2020 16: 27
      Quote: Cer59
      Israel will also have to feed and protect. on the other hand there will still be overseas territory. the question is, only do we need Israel as part of Russia?

      what do we smoke?
      1. +1
        2 May 2020 18: 56
        Yes, he didn’t smoke anything, it was just a thought in his head that Iran would begin the occupation of Israel in response to the destruction of parts of the armed forces of Iran. Or is it only Israel allowed? Interesting, and who allowed?
  26. +1
    2 May 2020 17: 04
    They first need to resolve issues with the barmalei, return peaceful life.
  27. +2
    2 May 2020 17: 11
    The successes of the IDF due to the lack of a full-fledged air defense system in the ATS can lead to a sense of impunity in the military circles of the West and, as a result, to the adoption of ill-conceived self-confident decisions, for example, launching missile-bombing attacks on Iranian territory. It should be noted that a full-scale war in the Persian Gulf region can have a number of positive consequences for us, such as an increase in world oil prices, as well as involving the PRC in an open confrontation with the United States and its allies. In general, we must look to the future with optimism!
  28. -2
    2 May 2020 17: 56
    Most readers of the Military Review, in my opinion, do not understand that one hundred Syria is not that it cannot wage a full-scale war with Israel, but it cannot even simply drive the militants out of its territory. Therefore, they do not shoot down Israeli planes. In reality, Israel is capable of destroying the entire army of Syria. Remember, all the wars against Israel, the surrounding Arab countries, led only to an increase in the territory of Israel and to an increase in its military power. Do not forget that in this area there is a coalition of European countries and the United States that will immediately begin to destroy Syria. Livia, remember, dear readers. No one will ask Russia whether it is possible or not to bomb Syria. And then Vanga’s prediction will come true - Syria will fall. And how the 3rd World War begins, it’s very simple. Iran will attack Israel, And Israel will use nuclear weapons. Perhaps Iran also has nuclear weapons, and here the United States will intervene and there will be a radioactive desert from Iran. And here is how Russia will react when the missiles with nuclear charges begin to be used on the territory of Iran and Syria, because our troops are there. Most likely, the global mess will begin here.
    1. 0
      6 May 2020 06: 46
      Are there Russian troops in Iran? Where did the firewood come from?
  29. 0
    2 May 2020 17: 56
    Jews strike from Lebanon! They can’t be shot down there, over another state, so the Syrians are shooting down missiles and 80% of those shot down, this is a good result for them! Especially Israeli air / land is cheaper than C300 missiles.
    1. -1
      2 May 2020 20: 43
      Quote: Anatoly Bartenev
      Vrei strike from Lebanon! They can’t be shot down there, over another state

      baby talk.
      Of course you could and could have shot down.
      Quote: Anatoly Bartenev
      therefore, the Syrians are shooting down fired missiles and 80% of those shot down, this is a good result for them!

      another fairy tale ..
      Quote: Anatoly Bartenev
      Especially Israeli air / land is cheaper than C300 missiles

      more details
    2. 0
      6 May 2020 06: 49
      Where did the 80% figure come from? From the Syrian Information Bureau? So you can't trust him. She lies all the time. And who forbids Syria to fire on Israeli planes in Lebanon? Nobody. Hezbollah rules there now and Lebanon will be only "FOR".
  30. -2
    2 May 2020 18: 20
    The only way out of this situation is to force Syria to become part of Russia, expel Iranians from milestones, destroy hezbollah as a terrorist organization and destroy all militants. Turkey, naturally, will have to withdraw its troops. The Kurds should be given the autonomy (freedom) they need so much. To threaten countries such as Jordan, Saudi Arabia and others with nuclear weapons if they continue anti-Russian activities. Close the border between Syria and Russia until the constitutional order is restored. Russia once again brought order to Central Asia with an iron hand. Only now there will be our military facilities and protected borders. With Turkey, we will agree (pay them) on the creation of an air corridor for the flight and Russian aerospace forces and tourist flights. Of Russia. They will shoot down planes, which means to force Turkey to peace. It is necessary to show aggressiveness and strength. This is something that is respected and recognized in the East.
    1. 0
      2 May 2020 18: 22
      Are you ready to pay, for example, an extra dozen percent of your salary for the sake of restoring Syria?
      1. -4
        2 May 2020 18: 34
        If you do not want a permanent war in Syria and Central Asia or the 3rd World War, you will have to pay, especially since if Syria becomes Russia, then much will become cheaper for us. If you do nothing, you will have to pay even more. That is why all European countries believed that having colonies was profitable and they fought and captured. Remember - power and weapons always restore order to the unbridled population of any state. No wonder that Yeltsin shot the White House. Or they forgot already. Or our troops almost reached Tbilisi.
        1. +1
          2 May 2020 18: 46
          Maybe even Libya and Yemen to join? Naked and poor countries. Just what you need. And especially on the verge of crisis, it is very clever to engage in expansion. You just don’t understand what heap of problems you propose to put on the state.
          1. -2
            2 May 2020 19: 40
            In my opinion he taunts. Syria to flocks the country is not poor expensive good and lived there not bad
            1. -1
              2 May 2020 19: 52
              Maybe so) But now there are many alternatively gifted, so what ideas just do not meet.
        2. -1
          2 May 2020 19: 41
          Why, for some reason, the British and French were unable to crush the uprisings in the colony by force.
        3. -1
          2 May 2020 20: 45
          Quote: Alex1949
          If you do not want a permanent war in Syria and Central Asia or the 3rd World War, then you have to pay, especially since if Syria becomes Russia, then much will become cheaper for us

          Interestingly, 1949 is the year of birth of your grandfather or great-grandfather?
          Quote: Alex1949
          . That is why all European countries believed that having colonies was profitable and they fought and captured

          the result passed you by?
          colonizer laughing
          Quote: Alex1949
          Remember - power and weapons always restore order to the unbridled population of any state. No wonder that Yeltsin shot the White House. Or they forgot already. Or our troops almost reached Tbilisi.

          the country is waiting for heroes. scientists - and are born ....
        4. 0
          4 May 2020 14: 04
          Quote: Alex1949
          especially since if Syria becomes Russia,

          Well you give men.
          with shag it is necessary more accurately.
    2. +2
      2 May 2020 20: 29
      Quote: Alex1949
      Close the border between Syria and Russia with a castle,

      I looked at the map .... I thought for a long time ... request
    3. +1
      2 May 2020 20: 50
      There are no trifles, right away, and Israel and Iran join .. That's really true, the Russian land will not faint
    4. 0
      6 May 2020 06: 51
      Fiction and not even realistic ..
  31. +1
    2 May 2020 18: 27
    Russia is beneficial that Iran and Israel dog.
  32. 0
    2 May 2020 19: 06
    I will tell you my opinion. First, about Israel: chutzpah steers. Immediately presented a picture - a smart Odessa shket in a bale sticks to his uncle with the phrase: "Uncle, buy a brick!" Shket is pissing, but continues kinky. After all, around the corner of the nearest synagogue there is a hefty bandage man in cowboy boots and a Colt in a holster. If anything, he will intercede for the unfortunate child. Well that's it, lyrics ...
    When our Israeli colleagues talk about the country's completely independent policy, they naturally are cunning. There is enough independence for squabbles with Arab neighbors. Russia is a player of a different scale. A conflict with it will inevitably turn into a conflict with the United States, and here the stakes are immeasurably higher.
    The leadership of the Russian Federation, as usual, is famous for half-hearted decisions (there is no point in specifying, everyone already knows). It seems that it's time to give an answer, but it's dumb - given the current economic state, the country will not pull a long conflict with NATO and its sixes. And the puffing of cheeks at the current unbelted leadership of the Zaluzhanshchina acts extremely weakly ...... "The answer cannot be tolerated" - where to put the comma? .............
    1. +1
      3 May 2020 08: 02
      Quote: AK pacifist
      I will tell you my opinion.

      And I decided to tell my opinion, but first we put all the points in their place.
      Quote: AK pacifist
      When our Israeli colleagues talk about the country's completely independent policy, they naturally are cunning. Independence enough for squabbles with Arab neighbors

      More precisely: Syria, Iran and Lebanon.
      These are not squabbles, but the defense of their country from destruction that these countries have tried to do this before and are saying today.
      "The conflict between the Israeli prime minister and the US president has reached a maximum point. The world has never seen anything like it and is unlikely to see anything. A foreign leader arrives in Congress on an agreement concluded behind the president's back and delivers a fiery speech directed against the politics of the president. Netanyahu entered the holy of holies of Congress and Obama will never forgive him."
      So that you see it is not as simple as you imagine it.
      Quote: AK pacifist
      There is enough independence for squabbles with Arab neighbors. Russia is a player of a different scale.

      I do not want to delve into the details of what happened, but everyone who tries to analyze and compare the USSR and modern Russia understands that this is not comparable, and you yourself wrote it:
      Quote: AK pacifist
      in the current economic situation, the country will not pull a long conflict

      And today's relations with Israel in Russia are not built on fear, but on mutual benefit.
      I will touch on only one aspect, Syria.
      Even when the S-300s were delivered, I wrote that this was only for internal patriotism.
      Today in Syria, Israel and Russia play on one hand.
      Iran and Hizbbalah completed their work on earth and helped Russia avoid the loss, and Assad to sit on the throne. But today they interfere with both Putin and Assad because want to turn Syria into a second Lebanon.
      And this is not included in the plans of Israel.
      That's just why Russia (and not some local "analysts") calmly reacts to what makes you ecstatic.
  33. -5
    2 May 2020 19: 09
    Bashar al-Assad understands perfectly well that he has no interests in this "alien" war, and therefore, once again, as they say, is not ready to substitute himself.

    laughing
    Another vyser from the "patriot of Israel".
    Assad "understands very well" that Iran is a loyal ally of Syria in the struggle for the return of the Golan Heights. bully
    And the S-300 will fire when the most "interesting" begins.
    I hope the Israelis have already stocked up with inflatable boats ... although the Greeks will not be very happy recourse
    1. +3
      2 May 2020 19: 42
      Jews have tried many times, only become stronger
      1. -3
        2 May 2020 20: 17
        Yes, yes, "they have become stronger" ... they just think how they will save the children.
        Everything will happen very quickly, the air lines will not cope with the evacuation, there is no land route from the word at all, only the sea route remains.
        1. 0
          2 May 2020 23: 03
          It has been heard since the 40s and the threats have remained decay
    2. +2
      2 May 2020 20: 01
      Stocked up. And diapers. And they threw to the landfill useless Patriots with Fu-35s. As soon as the United States throws them due to the inevitable collapse of the dollar, Iran, with the victory of Israel in 2006 by Hezbollah with all the strength of its TomKets, Zulfikarov and the Syrian MIG-21s, will collapse with all their might against the Jews who are fighting off a hole in the water pipes of Gaza.
      -------------------
      The next congression of Israel against Lebanon, Syria and Iran will be condemned by the next UN resolution.
      1. -2
        2 May 2020 20: 21
        I think Birobidzhan is not the worst place for Jews to live, in terms of security.
        1. +2
          2 May 2020 20: 41
          “In principle, I support Zionism, but there are difficulties in resolving the Jewish question. Our experiment in Beribedzhan failed because Jews prefer to live in cities. ”
          I.V. Stalin
    3. +1
      2 May 2020 20: 50
      Quote: flicker
      And the S-300 will fire when the most "interesting" begins.


      Quote: flicker
      I hope the Israelis have already stocked up with inflatable boats ... although the Greeks will not be very happy

    4. -1
      6 May 2020 06: 56
      Silenok is not enough. Will not be enough. So the Israelis will not need any boats.
  34. -1
    2 May 2020 19: 58
    I remember the local hat-tappers tearing their dirty T-shirts on their chests and threatening Israel with punishment from heaven. While Israel is sitting wet in the Kremlin, Israel will continue to do what it wants.
  35. 0
    2 May 2020 20: 16
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: Al Asad
    Well, if after the incident with the IL-20, only waved the handles

    All questions to air defense of Syria
    Quote: Al Asad
    It has long been clear what nationality the majority of rulers in Russia in the government and the State Duma

    Syrians, or what?

    Only the official position of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation (Russia) speaks of something else.
    Syrians, Syrians. Yeah
  36. 0
    2 May 2020 23: 12
    "For example, to the total bombing of positions and objects of the SAA (the Syrian government army) with all the consequences for the combat capability of the SAA": does Syria have no air defense? The same S-300 ?.
  37. +1
    3 May 2020 05: 44
    and let's hit the national battalion from the territory of Belarus. how the west will react. We can destroy the Nazis. This is documented, only we forgot about it.
  38. +1
    3 May 2020 09: 27
    I think it's time to stop the Syrian adventure. The personnel were trained, the equipment was checked, it was time to go home. I won’t write about the rest, otherwise they will call me a militarist.
  39. -1
    3 May 2020 10: 38
    Painfully "tolerant" article, in general - "nothing". And a discussion to match - the communication of the regulars, condescending to reason with the newcomer commentators. So, an ordinary swamp, almost without glimpses ...
  40. 9PA
    0
    3 May 2020 11: 11
    Do we need to attack Israel?
  41. 0
    3 May 2020 12: 17
    "behind Hezbollah" shta? : DDD food author escho !!
  42. 0
    3 May 2020 13: 46
    -Yes, Israel itself today is not so brave and cool ... -All some Hezbollah is bombing ...- knows that there will be no response ...
    -But today, Israel is already clearly afraid of Iran ... -Previously, Israel even bombed the mighty Iraq ... -the Osirak nuclear reactor on the territory of Iraq ... -And today, even to Iran, it is weak to strike ... the answer will be very terrible ... -That's how Hezbollah constantly "bales", having enlisted the all-round support of the Russian leadership ... -What's the point in bombing Hezbollah ... -that's a no brainer that Hezbollah is needed all the time supply, arm and finance ... -then Iranian ears are sticking out in all their glory ... -But to strike at Iran ...- Israel just has a gut ...
    1. -2
      6 May 2020 07: 02
      Israel inflicted hundreds of blows on Iran in Syria without otvetok from Iran. Well, except for two pathetic and unsuccessful attempts. So who has a thin gut is obvious.
  43. +1
    3 May 2020 15: 00
    Is it not obvious that Israel is not being touched because it is not profitable to touch it?
  44. -1
    3 May 2020 16: 14
    To start shooting down Israeli planes is not enough. Then the airfields must be destroyed. And this is a full-fledged war where Assad has little chance. Yes, and Russia requires not to get involved. Assad now needs to restore the country and not to fight with Israel. I think that nothing is finished yet and the answer will be.
  45. -1
    4 May 2020 12: 23
    Because-
    -wow
  46. 0
    4 May 2020 16: 59
    It’s interesting, but some country that was at war with Israel tried to fight the Jews not in its airspace, but by delivering, if not preemptive, then at least in response, a missile bombing strike on the territory of the Israeli state: at airfields, warehouses, etc. ?
    1. 0
      4 May 2020 21: 35
      yes, iraq, egypt. but then how it happened.
      1. 0
        6 May 2020 00: 04
        I read about the Arab-Israeli wars, but did not find information where the Arabs would try to beat not just the positions of the Israelis, but deep into the territory, destroying weapons depots, airfields, communications, etc.
        1. 0
          6 May 2020 00: 40
          no. they just hit the cities. or beaten or tried. and the Egyptians, and Iraqis, and from the gases.
  47. 0
    4 May 2020 19: 10
    It’s bad when you don’t understand what is really happening in Syria with such an accumulation of many foreign entities with different interests. And everyone wants to influence Syria, or they hope for it in the future. And the hardest thing in the country is Assad and Putin V.V.
  48. -1
    5 May 2020 02: 07
    complete nonsense. No matter whose airspace your country is being bombed. It is necessary to destroy the one who is bombing. My conclusions are the saddest - they don’t bring down because they can’t. They cannot - because the S-300 is far from being as formidable as they told us about it.
    So the Russian military-industrial complex is the same kirdyk as the rest of our industry.
    And this kirdyk happened under the sweet patriotic speeches of fiery United Russia and loyal Zaputinians. Silently happened. Sly glanders. Like everything else in our country, quiet glanders occur under the smokescreen of Ukraine-Syria-Trump-Skripaly-anything else, on TV constantly discussed
  49. 0
    5 May 2020 12: 41
    Convenient position of air defense SAR "I'm sitting - I'm smoking a pipe ..." belay
  50. 0
    6 May 2020 16: 28
    We then do everything within the framework of the agreements. What questions are there?