Pridnestrovian Armed Forces gunned down fellow guard

The Transnistrian soldier was inadvertently shot dead by his colleague. Now the culprit of the incident is under arrest.

This was reported by the Moldavian television channel TV8, referring to the media of Transnistria.

The investigation of the incident is carried out by the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the PMR, together with specialists from the Military Investigation Department of the republic. All the circumstances of the incident are studied and a forensic medical examination is carried out.

According to the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the PMR, the cause of the accident was the negligence of the perpetrator of the incident. This soldier served in the contract service in one of the units of the Armed Forces of Transnistria. Acting as head of the guard, he decided to double-check whether the cartridge remained in the chamber of the automatic weapons AK-74. In this case, a random shot occurred. The bullet hit the head of an army soldier who died on the spot from a gunshot wound. All this happened in the guardroom.

The investigation believes that the inspection of the machine was carried out in violation of safety requirements. A criminal case has been opened against the culprit of the incident under Part 2 of Article 289 of the Transdniestrian Moldovan Criminal Code “Negligence”.

Comments

[bubalik]

Acting as the head of the guard, he decided to double-check whether the cartridge remained in the chamber of the AK-74 automatic weapon. An accidental shot occurred. The bullet hit the head of an army soldier who died on the spot from a gunshot wound. All this happened in the guardroom.

,,, nach.kar, indoors, randomly

[Piramidon]

Quote: bubalik

,,, nach.kar, indoors, randomly

I don’t know how it is now in Transnistria and in the Russian army, but at the time when I served, the chief of the army or the main army. when loading weapons should have been present.

[Calm]

nach.kar, indoors ... Do you see this catch or something strange ???

[Normal ok]

Quote: Calm

nach.kar, indoors ... Do you see this catch or something strange ???

at least someone remembered that the discharge of weapons is carried out outside the guardhouse. in a bullet catcher pancake.

[sanik2020]

And in the army and in the civilian mess, he is the mess.

[pru-pavel]

It is necessary to carry out explanatory work with the starter. No need for such negligence the next time. The army of order requires

[Lipchanin]

Quote: pru-pavel

It is necessary to carry out explanatory work with the starter.

And let it go?

Now the culprit of the incident is under arrest.

[Grandfather]

Quote: pru-pavel

No need for such negligence the next time.

think next time, shoot somebody again?

[pru-pavel]

If you do not explain. Then yes

[Lipchanin]

They talked about such a case.
The unit was cleaning weapons in the barracks. One fighter left, or turned away, I don’t remember already and the sergeant put the cartridge in the chamber. Well, he stands and looks what the fighter will do. He pulled the trigger. The bullet hit the sergeant in the stomach.
Maybe it's a horror story, I don’t know, I told you how I heard

[apro]

Quote: Lipchanin

The bullet hit the sergeant in the stomach.

Weapons are not a joke. Yes, how many such cases ... the gouging of armor-bearers and the irresponsibility of controlling ... it is necessary to tame the weapon. And do not quickly grind random people who accidentally come to the service.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: apro

Weapons are not a joke. Yes, how many such cases.

One officer told me.
This incident occurred when he studied at VU. It was at the shooting range.
The lesson was conducted by a teacher who was also the champion of the USSR and Europe in shooting.
The squad is shooting. One student does not fire. The teacher comes up and asks why he doesn't open fire. He got up, pointed a machine gun at his stomach and began to press the trigger with the words, "You see, it does not shoot."
He became whiter than snow, grabbed the barrel with two fingers, took it away from him and burst into such a selective obscenity ...
And when this teacher was at the shooting range during the shooting, the cadet was dressed

[Tuesday]

Believe me, it’s impossible to invent anything about the army, whatever happens in real life! This is an axiom! I saw a soldier who pulled a field out of a cartridge, gunpowder and dripped molten lead into the sleeve, sometimes looking there as the capsule was doing. As a result, the eye like a cow tongue licked.

[ltc35]

We always had everything strictly during the cleaning of weapons. You can not get up from a place. Need rags, oil - ask. They will bring it. Weapons with the control exclusively up. For the direction of the trunk in the direction of a person, even checked and discharged, definitely plop and repeat instructions. All actions with a gun and in any situation were fixed at the level of reflexes. My AKS-74 during the service was more dear than all relatives.

[major147]

Quote: Lipchanin

They talked about such a case.

Was a witness and participant. He was on duty for the unit. The commander returned from a trip to the Caucasus where our soldiers were. He went up to his office, and his driver, having parked the car, came to hand over the weapon. I stood at the door of the discharge room, and the driver, talking with help through the delivery and acceptance window, took out a pistol and did not take out the magazine, directs it to the bullet trap and presses the trigger. A shot occurs (the cartridge was in the chamber, the fuse was removed). The driver, dumbfounded, turns the pistol to himself and looks into the barrel and, again directing it to the bullet-trap, presses the trigger, another shot. In time, everything took about three seconds. I jumped up and snatched the pistol from the driver. The driver said that "the brains were wedged", drove more than 1000 km per day.

[Doccor18]

How is that...? Hit the head? Accidentally? How!!??
I stood guard for 6 months after training. Checking the machine gun and the pistol for a cartridge in the chamber is carried out in a special room, the barrel looks into the pipe with sand.
This is the first thing I learned about when I went into the guardhouse.
And this is also a contractor!

[astepanov]

Quote: Doccor18

Checking the machine gun and the pistol for a cartridge in the chamber is carried out in a special room, the barrel looks into the pipe with sand.

Exactly. So it was 44 years ago, when I served an emergency. And the change of the guard discharges the weapon not by itself, but by the command of the breeder or nachkar, after which the weapon surrenders, and protection is set next to the beepers. So there is a gross violation of the statutes of the guard service. Nachkar - gouging, the duty officer on the part, who allowed the guard to serve - gouging, the commander of the unit from whom the guard was appointed - gouging. Everyone must be punished.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Doccor18

How is that...? Hit the head?

The real case of my long service. Two conscripts - chipboard (duty on the parking of planes) from nepredelleni arranged games with machine guns. It seems to be just clicking the trigger, sending weapons at each other. As there was a cartridge in the chamber, no one really could not explain. The result is a hit, exactly in the eye and, naturally, a load of 200.
Another case. The life of the young lieutenant did not work out (some kind of "mop" cut him off). He did not find anything better than getting a pistol from the deja when interceding in an outfit. partly and from him immediately put a bullet into his moronic head. The corpse in zinc was sent to the parents, and the man who was on duty in the field of his career ended there. He was accused of all sins - "he did not control, did not stop, did not smell ..." But not one of the political children from the "hot shop" suffered. Although this is their bread - to know the mood and psychological state of each subordinate.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Piramidon

But not one of the political children from the "hot shop" was hurt.

The political guys from the "hot shop" put the brains of conscripts, not regular officers. In this case, there are other services.

[Piramidon]

Quote: orionvitt

The political guys from the "hot shop" put the brains of conscripts, not regular officers. For this case, there are other services.

Which, specifically? The political worker in the SA was responsible for the moral, political and psychological state of the whole personnel subordinate to them, regardless of ranks.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Piramidon

Which, specifically?

At least a direct commander who is obliged to know how his subordinates live. The same special officer, whose sphere of activity includes everything related to combat readiness, and not just secrecy .. At worst, the party committee and the Komsomol organization, if they were not only engaged in collecting contributions there. My father, when he was serving as a political officer, was screwed on absolutely any reason. So your irony about "political kids from the" hot shop "is somehow inappropriate. As I understand it, you have just an internal antipathy towards political workers.

[Piramidon]

Quote: orionvitt

As I understand it, what you have for political workers is simply internal antipathy.

Well, in a way, you got to the point. How can I relate to a stupid loser navigator who was floated (due to the fact that as a navigator he was a complete zero) in the deputy commander for IF. Which one is the hell of a "connoisseur of human souls"? But there were very good people among political workers during my service. And, in general, as I understand it, you are the worker of the "hot shop" who stood up to his defense? If so, then you will not deny that the "hot shop" was a "state within a state"? After all, all penalties, incentives, appointments went to them not along the team ladder, but along the stairs of the CA and the Navy

[Cat]

there were very good people among political workers during my service

Of course. But the average political politicians did not like, and conscripts generally shied away from them, like hell from incense.

[Piramidon]

Quote: orionvitt

Quote: Piramidon

Which, specifically?

At least a direct commander who is obliged to know how his subordinates live. The same special officer, whose sphere of activity includes everything related to combat readiness, and not just secrecy .. At worst, the party committee and the Komsomol organization, if they were not only engaged in collecting contributions there. My father, when he was serving as a political officer, was screwed on absolutely any reason. So your irony about "political kids from the" hot shop "is somehow inappropriate. As I understand it, you have just an internal antipathy towards political workers.

With this answer you generally reduced the role of political worker to zero. On a fig then they were generally needed?

[Piramidon]

Quote: orionvitt

My father, when he was serving as a political officer, was blanched for absolutely any reason.

Well, here I am about the same. But drunk exclusively on their political line. So the political worker should have been responsible for something. But with us they tried to shift their schools to subordinates.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Piramidon

But drunk exclusively on their political line

Nothing like this. Zampolit is not a phenomenon that lives on its own, it is an "assistant commander for political affairs." And the commander demanded from him, first of all, and not some abstract-mythical main PU of the SA and the Navy, which was really engaged in, God knows what. It is in the films that political officers are shown as "creatures who are sometimes even higher than commanders and can challenge an order," but in reality nothing of the kind. Maybe the political instructors once possessed power, but in the late Soviet Army, the political officer, was essentially a powerless person, on whom all the bumps always fell.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Doccor18

How is that...? Hit the head? Accidentally? How!!??

The real case.
503th regiment, Vladikavkaz, 98
They clean their weapons in a special room, the sergeant in the armory, the company on duty, punches the number plate. A shot, a bullet flies through the wall and hits the sergeant’s head

Quote: Doccor18

Checking the machine gun and the pistol for a cartridge in the chamber is carried out in a special room, the barrel looks into the pipe with sand.

Not in the army.
No rooms, no pipes.

[Million]

Something nonsense. There is a special place for loading weapons. There the machine is placed in a special device in front of the bullet catcher just in order not to shoot at anyone. In the guardhouse this is prohibited

[Pavel73]

Absurd death for the joy of enemies :(

[Vladimir]

Well, why this statement? I live in Ukraine, and whoever this soldier is and whatever he thinks about us (Ukrainians). Anyway, I am sorry for him and his relatives, I am sorry for the family of the deceased.

[yfast]

And what does your country have to do with it, or are you also fighting the PMR?

[Pavel73]

And why did you accept what was said at your own expense?

[Cat]

At one time, for more than six months I intervened in the unit, as they say, every other day - the guard was in the same mode in the same way. So, during this time there were 14 shots, fortunately everything was discharged into a bullet catcher, and once shy at the post once - something seemed to be lacking.
Such cases have been, are and will be - a person is not a reliable system, just as you should not train him.

[parkello]

So at the post I myself also shot, and more than once. For that, the cartridges were issued to shoot at those who did not answer or answer, but not like that. After dressing, it was first necessary to open the store, then double-shut the shutter (in case if the cartridge swells the first time and jumped off the bolt) then the weapon rises to a level above the head opposite and the trigger is pressed, after which the weapon closes on the crossbar. but if ammunition is used up, then written paper is required by hand, where, how much, and why ammunition was spent, or disbat and with the disciplinary, we did not stand on ceremony. violated, please answer. and God forbid, no matter who suffers, the ocean of water will not be washed off later. and here, judging by the text, we are dealing with ordinary sloppiness, unintentional murder (which still needs to be proved that you didn’t want to), prove to the court that you are innocent, let go, you won’t prove it. and you will pay for the soldier, and for the psychological trauma (you’ll pay for your whole life and you won’t get rid of it), and that they can use it against you. otherwise it can complain and the captain will be torn ... they will really tear. but it’s in the Greek army, but I don’t know in Russia, I never lived in Russia. just stayed a week in Moscow. and so was born in Georgia and since 1992 in Greece I live on permanent residence. (repatriate) it happened that he stood at the post and shot .. sometimes just like that, out of boredom, sometimes really. once shot a large turtle. found in the morning ... 7 days of vacation were given. but it happened that for each cartridge they asked. the store was 18, and by appointment 19. so for 1 cartridge a little under the tribunal was not given. supposedly I’m hiding from the authorities, I don’t want to take it. and I had ammunition, but mine. I bought from everyone who sold. while I serve, that would be, at least two stores my cartridges. because sometimes a boar will wander or anything could happen. and ammo is always needed. but if you don’t know how to use a weapon, or careless by nature, it is better to leave iota 5 psychologically and generally not take up arms. Jehovah's Witnesses have served us like this. according to the help of fools. 8 B as they used to say, but it serves where the weapons do not need to be touched, the kitchen is there. all kinds of warehouses. and if iota 1, then everyone is different. eyes should be 14, otherwise you’ll get stuck. even getting in with us was very easy. there were many cases of auto-shooting .. many shot themselves, so then their elders and captains tore at the tribunals like a Tuzik heating pad. and a lot of people flew in. so that we quickly learned to count our sheep and state ones. and even more so to distinguish them. in my company a soldier shot dead. stood at the garage post, shot himself at night. began to check .. so while this test passed, I turned gray on half a head and half a beard. they also proved well that the captain was not to blame, it was because of his personal broken life that he had scored. If he hadn’t found his diary, the captain would have been shining for 15 years in Avlon (there was a military prison there) with full compensation. it’s separately for the son’s parents. Separately, for the loss of the breadwinner, and psychological trauma for both parents .. in short, you’ll sell everything and you won’t be redeemed. You should stay ... in Afghanistan and it would be better to be in such a situation. than in the Greek army ... mainland, not even on the islands. and there they’ll generally rot ... they’ll let the fish feed. here the people are so scared that no one even wants to help elementarily. they will only hear that the firearm in the army will be the first to run away, not a single lawyer will undertake to defend you in court. especially if the killing was due to negligence or negligence. I say, it’s better to shoot yourself right away ... otherwise they will take away both weapons and ammunition, and you will want to die and you won’t be able to. the walls are soft, upholstered, on the windows of the 14th century bars + the vigilant eye of the overseer above the head, each sigh is fixed while the court is up (and after 5 years he may start 100 times, you will regret that you stayed alive and didn’t use your weapon whenever possible.

[Nikolaevich I]

Yes, anything happened during the service! Reasons 3 ...: 1. outrageousness; 2.fatigue after the night guard ... 3. fatigue, "multiplied" by sloppiness. There are people who very badly tolerate the night "wakefulness"! Especially the "first-yearrs" ... Usually, as .... defended his shift on guard ... you come to the guardroom ... you unload the weapon: "unfastened" the store, removed the safety lock, pulled the bolt, pulled the trigger ... But it happens that the "sentry" turns out to be so tired .. tired that, without opening the store (!), removes the safety lock, removes the shutter and presses the trigger ....! And if at the same time the switch was on the "automatic", then it will not seem a little! But this is perhaps the most "extreme extreme"! It also happens: removed from the safety catch, "pulled" the bolt, and then unlocked the store ... pulled the trigger!

[parkello]

sometimes it is always different. For example, in our country (in the Greek army), even without a store, weapons are not allowed to be sent to people. The article immediately shines on anyone. even if he was someone ... and to unload the weapon, it is necessary to double-turn the bolt and only when the barrel looks into the sky press the control trigger, after which the weapon closes to the rack by the military personnel himself, and the ammunition officer collected the cartridges. he betrayed, and he also accepted them back on account. but if something happens, the officers will simply be torn into rags on rags. therefore, we do not have such cases. no one wants to lose their job and salary. neither a soldier nor an officer. at first they explained on our fingers how for ... that we wouldn’t have to then deprive someone of our life or health. punished immediately. sent a weapon to a person - 40 days of re-service (we didn’t have a guardhouse) after the order ... and if you deprive a soldier of his health, you won’t get home at all, at least in this life. it’s better to shoot yourself right away than to wait for the tribunal .. then you will regret that you didn’t shoot yourself when there was an opportunity.

[voyaka uh]

We discharged the weapon in the same way: twitching the shutter twice and then
on the descent, arms 60 degrees up all the time.
But cartridges were constantly in bulk. Seven full shops in the harness
and one full is always in your pocket. Cartridges with cartridges sometimes stood
right under the bunks.
But no one loaded the weapons on their own, the store didn’t adjoin,
people were conscious. There were no incidents of shooting at the battalion in 15 years.

[parkello]

Well, yes ... but it’s also allowed to carry around with you. And only at the border we were given 4 mages and loose powder in a backpack. and the rings were full. at least a hundred outfits. the cartridge is one, that for the Magician FN, that for the G3a3 HC ... one cartridge 308 was on. and closer to the city, cartridges were already seized ... on receipt ...... otherwise there were cases. when the scores went on to take sides with weapons ...

[Dmitry Zverev]

This is exactly what happens on guard. Shooting is common. The place for loading and unloading weapons was located next to the guardhouse. The machine is installed in a special niche in an almost vertical position, the barrel is directed into a special wooden beam. So here we have these beams had ten holes. For the sake of justice, the guards called from Central Asia and the Caucasus sinned with such shooting. On my personal account there are 360 ​​guards - "every other day on the belt". Not a single flight, thanks for the exemplary carrying)

[Atlant-1164]

interestingly this is not in \ h 44605 Dubossary ?? in my guard one in the same case happened .. Private Nazarov first jerked the shutter, and then disconnected the store. and fired a control shot .. row Hajibeyov died on the spot towards which the barrel was directed. June 1982

[Simon schempp]

interestingly this is not in \ h 44605 Dubossary ??

No. In Tiraspol.

in my guard one in one the same incident happened

In Afanasyevka?

[Atlant-1164]

Dubossary.

[Lara Croft]

Checking weapons for the presence of a cartridge in the chamber occurs outside the guardhouse in the presence of a distributor and when placing the weapon in a bullet trap (in the form of a metal pipe looking at the sky at 45 degrees ...) ...

[Nikolaevich I]

As for the guardroom, that's right ... they were discharged on the "street", but next to the "guardhouse". But about the bullet trap-metal pipe - "point-blank" I do not remember! Yes, under 45 g. , but the machine gun was placed in ... fir-palas, sclerosis, forgot (!) ... "pyramid"? "rack"? "frame"?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

As for the guardhouse, that's right ... they unloaded it on the "street"but next to the "guardhouse" .

Did I write on the guard tower?

But about the bullet trap-metal pipe - "point-blank" I do not remember!

It is installed next to the guardhouse ....

but the submachine gun was put in ... fir trees, sclerosis, I forgot (!) ... "pyramid"? rack"? "frame"?

if you didn’t go on guard or don’t remember ... then let me remind you that bypassing the bullet trap you will not put your AK in the pyramid located in the guardroom, but you will learn the Charter of the garrison and guard service for the resting place, and the next time the company will intercede on guard, stay on the "bedside table" in the company for the day ...

[Cat]

that bypassing the bullet collector you will not put your AK in the pyramid located in the guardroom, and you will learn the Charter of the garrison and guard service for the resting place

You probably served in some kind of abstract-ideal army? In real life, it happened differently, our old-timers, changing their duties from the post, simply threw weapons to a salab-raiser and stomped to sleep, but he himself discharged and dragged everything into the pyramid. They punished, but it didn’t help - and sending it to a diesel engine is more expensive.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Gato

that bypassing the bullet collector you will not put your AK in the pyramid located in the guardroom, and you will learn the Charter of the garrison and guard service for the resting place

You probably served in some kind of abstract-ideal army?

Parts of the unit of the 12th GU Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, who served in them, will say that in your opinion it could not be there .... never ...

[Cat]

12th GU MO RF

I didn’t serve, I don’t know. But he saw service in the regional missile and technical base of the KZazVO under the USSR

[Nikolaevich I]

As they say in such cases: "Why are you so impudent?" ....! I went on guard and enough; but, judging by your descriptions, we served in "different armies" ... well, at least because of different times! After reading the comments of some comrades, I was even more convinced that we did not have "metal bullet-catcher pipes"! There was an inclined "frame" with grooves for the butt and forend ... which served as a bullet trap, I don't remember ... maybe wooden beam, like Dmitry Zverev's or "spaced shield with sand", like Millionabut not a pipe at all!

[Nikolaevich I]

By the way, I recall now that I had to rest (sleep) between shifts with machine guns at my side!

[Cat]

rest (sleep)

Yes. Straight line from the charter. My duty officer said so: "you watch, and I went along
tired of lying down and sleeping in brackets ", and locked the pistol in the safe so that he would not pull off an excessively playful NSh, after Afgan he suffered from insomnia and loved to check his daily outfit.

[Nikolaevich I]

Nope ... and what are you unhappy with? I have provided "free choice"! Like, sleep ... like, rest without sleep! And you are capricious ...

[Svarog51]

Did I write on the guard tower?

Guard tower at the post or on the territory near the guardhouse. The "guardhouse" is the guardhouse. The pyramid of weapons is located in the guardroom, and the loading and unloading machine is outside the guardhouse, or directly at the post.
On the "bedside table" can be determined even during divorce, if you do not answer the questions of the person on duty for the part or support. In addition to the UGiKS, they also ask a lot, for example - post forms, traffic routes, special circumstances, etc.

[Million]

Our bullet collector was in the form of a large and wide 2 wall wooden shield, inside which sand was poured

[Cat]

Similarly. And no holders

[Vladimir]

Most likely the standard wording of the incident. Everyone knows AK (which could be simpler) ?, everyone also understands how the cartridge gets into the chamber.

[Cat]

everyone also understands how the cartridge gets into the chamber

Yes? You are a big optimist I personally watched as a fighter of non-Russian nationality stuffed cartridges into ... a hole for a pencil case in the butt.

[Mihail2019]

My father (a two-year-old, the head of the medical service of the artillery regiment) told me a case from his practice over these two years: after firing, one private soldier unfastened the store and didn’t pull the bolt, pulled the trigger without sending the machine gun into the bullet catcher (I thought that the chamber was empty). Another fighter at that moment was cleaning his boot ..
Dad was then present at the autopsy - the bullet entered from one side of the armpit, passed both lungs and the heart, hit the rib, left him in the pelvis through the entire abdominal cavity, turned around again and stopped on the other side of the pelvis, resting on the bone ..
Clearly, along the way - everything is minced!
Instant death due to contact with the heart.
Father told me this before the Internet. There’s no father.