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“Against Russian tanks”: Poland is going to order a new grenade launcher

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In Poland, potential suppliers of light anti-tank grenade launchers are selected. It is planned to conclude a contract already in the current 2020, and the need for grenade launchers is explained by the need to protect against a possible Russian attack.


As you know, most of all in the Baltic countries and Poland are afraid of Russian tanks. Say, there are much more of them than tanks of the armies of NATO countries on the eastern borders of the alliance, and if a war begins with Russia, then Russian tank columns will not need much time to advance through the territory of the same Poland. Therefore, the Polish army pays special attention to anti-tank arms, including anti-tank grenade launchers.

Until now, the most massive grenade launcher in the Polish army remains RPG-7. In addition, the airborne units and special forces are armed with RPG Karl Gustav in versions M2 and M3 of Swedish production. Also, the Polish army uses Swedish AT4 grenade launchers and Spanish Instalas C90 grenade launchers.

Recently, however, Poland has been very puzzled by the need to replace the aging, according to the Polish military, RPG-7 grenade launcher with more modern models. They plan to equip not only the ground forces, but also the territorial defense forces, which also play an important role in the system of ensuring the defense capability of the Polish state.

The Polish army began a search for potential suppliers of light anti-tank grenade launchers that could be used against armored vehicles (for example, tanks of the RF Armed Forces, which Polish "elites" are constantly talking about the threat), manpower and fortified positions of a potential enemy. The spokesman for the Arms Inspectorate of the Ministry of Defense of Poland, Major Krzysztof Platek, said that so far requests have been received from 9 companies. Due to the coronavirus pandemic, dialogue with manufacturers of grenade launchers takes place electronically, but it is precisely such a regime that can significantly accelerate the process of acquiring new weapons at the same time.

The future disposable grenade launcher "Grotto" should have such characteristics that will allow to hit armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles, older tanks, as well as new tanks in their weak places.

The second type of targets include buildings and fortified fences. In the Arms Inspectorate, the new grenade launcher is seen to be easy to use and fit for carrying by one soldier. There should also be the possibility of use from enclosed spaces.

Of course, their cost, as well as the ability to purchase a license for the production and maintenance of a grenade launcher in Poland, will play an important role in determining the supplier of grenade launchers. Among potential suppliers who have already submitted applications, it is worth noting Polska Grupa Zbrojeniowa SA, Raytheon Missile Systems, Saab Technologies Poland Sp. and Griffin Group SA Defense Sp.k.

Polish audience took a very positive news about the upcoming acquisition of new grenade launchers. Some commentators advise buying a license for the production of grenade launchers in Spain, which can now sell it cheaply, in connection with the economic crisis following the coronavirus pandemic.

At the same time, there are critical comments.
I did not notice that they are talking about the possibility of production in Poland, which should be the main condition for the required quantity. But it seems that we are still suffering from excessive orders for military needs, and our plants no longer produce products, so it is probably better for the Americans to produce them -

- writes Sidematic.

Of course, a light grenade launcher will not penetrate the frontal armor of a tank, but Russians are not all in tanks. If all Russians were in tanks, rifles would also not make sense. Today, Russians are waging a hybrid war and attacking with light infantry, and we are looking for tank destroyers. We need cheap Polish weapons, and instead of complaining about RPG-7, it would be nice to make a disposable thing out of it,

- recalls one Andrettoni about the main purpose of ordering new grenade launchers.
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  1. rusich
    rusich April 8 2020 10: 17 New
    +7
    A grenade launcher will be charged with apples laughing
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee April 8 2020 10: 22 New
      +7
      Quote: rusich
      recharge with apples

      Bitten by pickers from ........
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter April 8 2020 10: 29 New
        13
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Bitten by pickers from .......

        You don’t understand ... these are cumulative funnels! laughing
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee April 8 2020 10: 35 New
          +3
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          these are cumulative funnels!

          Technically! good
        2. Avior
          Avior April 8 2020 10: 48 New
          +6
          And I thought what it is? smile
          1. Andrei Nikolaevich
            Andrei Nikolaevich April 8 2020 13: 02 New
            +1
            Hohlofon, however)
      2. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer April 8 2020 11: 43 New
        +3
        Half the world uses RPG - 7, well, with some modifications, everyone is happy. And only psheks do not like something. Well, let them buy cheap Swedish or Jewish
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin April 8 2020 10: 36 New
      +3
      Quote: rusich
      A grenade launcher will be charged with apples

      By these lol
      1. Avior
        Avior April 8 2020 10: 49 New
        +2
        Is this an advertisement for iPhones in Ukraine? smile
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin April 8 2020 10: 51 New
          +2
          Quote: Avior
          Is this an advertisement for iPhones in Ukraine?

          This is an advertisement of their nature
          1. novel66
            novel66 April 8 2020 11: 13 New
            +4
            Poles and Ukrainians are as strong as a cardinal and haberdasher
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin April 8 2020 11: 18 New
              0
              Nah, those against these are resting request
              1. novel66
                novel66 April 8 2020 11: 20 New
                +4
                and who will bite !?
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin April 8 2020 11: 23 New
                  +2
                  Labor migrants lol
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 April 8 2020 11: 24 New
                    +4
                    will they cope for sure? sad
                    1. Lipchanin
                      Lipchanin April 8 2020 11: 29 New
                      +1
                      Right It's a freebie
            2. Paul Siebert
              Paul Siebert April 8 2020 11: 29 New
              +4
              Quote: novel xnumx
              Poles and Ukrainians are as strong as a cardinal and haberdasher

              There are no cardinals among them.
              Some damn haberdashery ... angry
              1. novel66
                novel66 April 8 2020 11: 31 New
                +4
                the Führer haberdashery brought power ... to her, without a cardinal it’s impossible
              2. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin April 8 2020 11: 34 New
                +1
                And will not be. Have degenerated
                1. stariy
                  stariy April 8 2020 18: 21 New
                  0
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  And will not be. Have degenerated

                  yes there that the haberdasher is not the Fuhrer or Napoleon
            3. orionvitt
              orionvitt April 8 2020 12: 59 New
              0
              Quote: novel xnumx
              Poles and Ukrainians are as strong as a cardinal and haberdasher

              Not true. This is the union of one haberdasher, with another haberdasher, smaller.
    3. venik
      venik April 8 2020 15: 08 New
      0
      Quote: rusich
      A grenade launcher will be charged with apples laughing

      ========
      good And apple seeds will act as a "shock core"! lol
  2. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich April 8 2020 10: 21 New
    +4
    Poland always needs to think about its security. Since this state is a chronic passage yard of Europe. How many armies passed through this entrance yard, and more than once, "Velika Polska" did not fight back. Ambition. Ambition. Ambition ... My condolences.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh April 8 2020 12: 45 New
      -1
      They always fought back.
      But the quantitative balance of forces was not in their favor, as a rule.
      And flat geography does not contribute to defense.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich April 8 2020 13: 01 New
        +2
        maybe "bad dancer (Poland) is hindered by something?"
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh April 8 2020 13: 27 New
          0
          A small territory, as I have already said, is in the way (there is no depth of retreat for redeployment and concentration of forces, as in Russia, for example).
          And a flat territory convenient for the aggressor during cavalry or tank offensives.
          1. Andrei Nikolaevich
            Andrei Nikolaevich April 8 2020 14: 30 New
            +1
            Well, if such a critical situation is "convenient for the aggressor" so can Poland take a neutral position in foreign policy? We would have sat and kept quiet in a rag, and puffed into two holes ... You look and it would have carried over, we were saved from wars.
            But as historical experience shows, Poland is a plug for all barrels. Everywhere she gives her voice and she needs everything more than anyone else. So he suffers then. And the most surprising thing is that no conclusions are drawn. They don't get smarter. They will ruin themselves - with their ambitions, but "a small territory (there is no depth of retreat for redeployment and concentration of forces," That's all objective reality.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh April 8 2020 14: 48 New
              +1
              A neutral position does not help if the country does not have a strong army. You know this yourself, the most popular quote in Russia is: "Russia has no allies except the army and navy."
              Enemies respect only power.
              Even always neutral Switzerland, in the mountains, holds a strong army.
              Poland has the same position.
              1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                Andrei Nikolaevich April 8 2020 15: 08 New
                +3
                I allow myself to disagree with you. Namely: the biggest force in Switzerland is not its army, but its banks, with accounts, from around the world. Meanwhile, I personally have not heard that Switzerland somewhere has cast its voice in the international arena. Poland, on the contrary, opens its excuse, hail where necessary and not necessary. Ambitions not backed by military and economic capabilities are not worth a penny. Consequently, all the problems of Poland from its incredible claims and overstated arrogance.
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh April 8 2020 15: 28 New
                  0
                  You probably rely on outdated data. Poland’s GDP of approximately $ 550 billion, is the 21st economy in the world. They dramatically developed the civilian economy in 30 years. And they had the means to rearm the army.
                  Many countries, not only Poland, suffer from over-conceit (for various historical reasons).
                  1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                    Andrei Nikolaevich April 8 2020 16: 34 New
                    +1
                    Poland's GDP is approximately 550 billion dollars, it is the 21st economy in the world. "
                    Well, that's it! With such a GDP, one could have a decent army.
                    As I.V. Stalin "Who is Pope Rimsky and how many divisions does he have?"
      2. smile
        smile April 9 2020 02: 16 New
        0
        voyaka uh
        Hello
        You're wrong.
        In the 17th century, the population of the Rzeczpospolita exceeded the population of Russia. Much.
        And if you take into account the subordinate ON with the completely polonized aristocracy by then - it exceeded multiple.
        Take an interest.
        And yes, flat geography does not contribute to defense - therefore, it was hard for us to defend ourselves from them.
        Warrior, forgive me, but, apparently, you were not very interested in the history of the confrontation between Poland and Russia, and you forget that it was we who basically defended against them for four hundred years. They were going to capture us. dismember. polonize and create "Polska from Mozha to Mozha" ....
        And only when the formation of our state took place, we returned their favor ...
        unfortunately - not with interest, since we have not sunk to the policy of Polonization, on the contrary, to the siege, or to the policy of "sanitation" (the Poles did this already in the 20th century) ... I understand. that what the Poles did was bestiality ... but sometimes I regret that we did not treat them the way they did us ... for centuries ...
        So it goes.
        Warrior, excuse me - in this topic you are either weak or write comments, guided not by historical knowledge, but by political biases ... excuse me.
        Goodbye.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh April 9 2020 10: 54 New
          +2
          Poles and Russians are genetically one nation. There are not the slightest differences. Plus, mixed marriages of elites.
          Therefore, these historical showdowns for 500 years are ridiculous. "They give us - wow! And we - ah!" As in the Balkans: Serbs, Croats, Bosnians - one Slavic tribe, divided into three religions. And for hundreds of years they want to interrupt each other. And they are very proud of this desire.
          It’s time to throw all this nonsense into the dustbin of history. Hundred Years War, Thirty Years War, white and red roses - ah! we will avenge you.
  3. askort154
    askort154 April 8 2020 10: 24 New
    +6
    in service with the airborne units and special forces is the RPG Karl Gustav in versions M2 and M3 of Swedish production

    Now order the Swedes RPG "Karl XII".
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin April 8 2020 10: 38 New
      +4
      Quote: askort154

      Now order the Swedes RPG "Karl XII".

      And remember how he finished
      1. novel66
        novel66 April 8 2020 11: 21 New
        +4
        Peter Lyuley prescribed him
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin April 8 2020 11: 24 New
          +2
          Quote: novel xnumx
          Peter Lyuley prescribed him

          Well, we are his heirs
          1. novel66
            novel66 April 8 2020 11: 26 New
            +4
            Hooray! to Poltava !!!!
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin April 8 2020 11: 31 New
              +2
              So they are not there request
              They think how they can drag "democracy" into Russia
              1. novel66
                novel66 April 8 2020 11: 31 New
                +4
                especially! what kind of bazaar is there ... what fat ...
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin April 8 2020 11: 36 New
                  +2
                  But I’m interested. They dropped the bacon. But when did they raise the shawals, or to whom was they pushed?
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 April 8 2020 12: 08 New
                    +4
                    first they bit off the clean side, and sold the rest
                    1. Lipchanin
                      Lipchanin April 8 2020 12: 09 New
                      +2
                      Quote: novel xnumx
                      and sold the rest

                      To the Poles?
                      1. novel66
                        novel66 April 8 2020 12: 10 New
                        +4
                        and other various Swedes lol
                      2. Lipchanin
                        Lipchanin April 8 2020 12: 12 New
                        +1
                        Well now it’s clear where the coronovirus popped up yes
                      3. novel66
                        novel66 April 8 2020 13: 07 New
                        +4
                        everything from the bitten! lol
                      4. Lipchanin
                        Lipchanin April 8 2020 13: 11 New
                        +1
                        Quote: novel xnumx
                        everything from the bitten! lol

                        For this they bit laughing
                      5. novel66
                        novel66 April 8 2020 13: 16 New
                        +3
                        I repeat ...
      2. 3danimal
        3danimal April 10 2020 08: 33 New
        0
        This is alien to us, only dictatorship and estates.
  • Lipchanin
    Lipchanin April 8 2020 10: 39 New
    +3
    Quote: askort154
    Now order the Swedes RPG "Karl XII".

    And why not outbid the Javelins from the Ukrainians? laughing
    1. askort154
      askort154 April 8 2020 10: 48 New
      +2
      Lipchanin...And why not buy Javelins from the Ukrainians?

      Better, the Hammer mortar.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin April 8 2020 10: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: askort154
        Better, the Hammer mortar.

        Well of course they are cheaper laughing
    2. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 April 8 2020 10: 50 New
      +2
      Quote: Lipchanin
      And why not outbid the Javelins from the Ukrainians?

      I do not think that the Americans allowed the resale or transfer of their ATGMs to other hands
      In addition, the ATGM is not an easy and not at all cheap grenade launcher
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin April 8 2020 10: 54 New
        +2
        Quote: Gregory_45

        I do not think that the Americans allowed the resale or transfer of their ATGMs to other hands

        You did not notice the smiley with a smile?
        Or do you perceive jokes only on April 1?
        1. novel66
          novel66 April 8 2020 11: 22 New
          +3
          but they don’t know .. who is watching there
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin April 8 2020 11: 25 New
            +1
            Quote: novel xnumx
            but they don’t know .. who is watching there

            Yes, they probably have long been stubborn
            I won’t be surprised if this warehouse burns out soon.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 8 2020 10: 26 New
    +3
    in Poland are very puzzled by the need to replace outdated, according to the Polish military, RPG-7 grenade launcher
    Is it so outdated or does it hurt your ears? In the USA, on the contrary, a couple of years ago, the production of the RPG-7 was established. But this does not remind you of the "cunning" face of a Ukrainian
    ... grenade launchers in Spain, which can now sell it cheaply due to the economic crisis following the coronavirus pandemic
    1. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 April 8 2020 10: 58 New
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      In the United States, on the contrary, RPG-7 was launched a couple of years ago.

      not for myself. Mainly for arming "friendly regimes" in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Syrian opposition.
      The production of the RPG-7 (the new name of the RPG-M7) was tried to be deployed on the Ukrainian "Mayak"
  • rocket757
    rocket757 April 8 2020 10: 34 New
    +2
    They had something else to order and LAST !!! The fact that some have lower belts, for some reason, is located, but should be located much higher!
  • Pereira
    Pereira April 8 2020 10: 35 New
    +3
    Why grenade launchers? There is a national, well-developed technology.
    The painting of Jerzy Kossak “The Battle of Kutno in 1939”
  • knn54
    knn54 April 8 2020 10: 37 New
    0
    - but also the territorial defense troops,
    A disposable "faustpatron" for each family. Lightweight and cheap.
  • Mebius
    Mebius April 8 2020 10: 38 New
    -1
    This time, if something happens, Poland will not be "liberated" by tanks and infantry .. Once they have freed 600 thousand they have already put it .. So there are many other methods ..
    1. bukhach
      bukhach April 8 2020 12: 31 New
      +1
      I am also surprised by the fact that the Balts and Poles are afraid of our ground forces, implying our desire to capture them, but why? It’s easier to destroy, less trouble. Not humane of course, but effective.
      1. Aag
        Aag April 8 2020 16: 17 New
        -1
        "Easier to destroy, less hassle. Not humane, of course, but effective."
        Since the moderators do not react to this kind of "proposals", I have to remind you, or inform you if you are not at all aware: not a small number of Russians live in the Baltic States. An even larger number of people were once citizens of the USSR and made for the country (RF ) is incomparably more than some local jingoistic patriots. It's not their fault that the borders are now on this side!
        ... Yes, and in spirit they are more Russian than some of those present.
        1. bukhach
          bukhach April 10 2020 01: 44 New
          0
          Your words are empty and worthless, I know who lives in the Baltics and in Ukraine too, and how dashingly Russian Ukrainians kill Russians in the name of Ukraine. I was in Lithuania in 1997 and even then I saw local Russians, do not comfort yourself, these people, more precisely their descendants will kill no worse than the Ukrainians and maybe even better, in order to prove that they are "holier than the Pope." Who and how much they did for Russia is not for you and your kind to judge, they did not come out face, that is, another court "Hurray-patriot" sculpt right and left, you, gentlemen-comrades, would not touch the word "patriot", do not dirty it, or can not find other words, the vocabulary is poor?
          1. Aag
            Aag April 10 2020 08: 42 New
            0
            You hear yourself: "These people, or rather their descendants, will kill no worse than the Ukrainians, and maybe even better, in order to prove that they are" holier than the Pope. " Do you offer the same methods, indiscriminately, indiscriminately?
            "Who and how much has done for Russia is not for you and your like to judge, they did not come face to face, there is another court for that."
            Why, did you decide so? On what grounds? Didn't the same "fixers" rode on the Maidan?
            1. bukhach
              bukhach April 10 2020 12: 19 New
              -1
              You do .... ak or kind of thing? What is there that your sick imagination attributed my words to me personally to a light bulb, I repeat, in case of war it’s not necessary to subjugate, as it used to be, but to destroy it at a distance. there will be another, not yours and not mine, the Highest, where everyone will answer: both I, and you and everyone else. It is strange that it did not reach you right away, you need to chew.
              1. Aag
                Aag April 10 2020 15: 56 New
                0
                "Do you do .... ak or is it so?"
                Very constructive question. Apparently, further discussion does not make sense, especially considering your nickname ...
                1. bukhach
                  bukhach April 12 2020 06: 07 New
                  0
                  Comforted, I don’t know how to give thanks, especially for nickname laughing
  • Aliken
    Aliken April 8 2020 10: 52 New
    0
    You also equip the police with grenade launchers, paranoid.
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith April 8 2020 10: 53 New
    -1
    Did the diapers order “Against Russian Tanks”? laughing
  • Masha
    Masha April 8 2020 10: 57 New
    +3
    most of all in the Baltic countries and Poland are afraid of Russian tanks

    How scary to live!
    They are waiting for Russian tanks ...
    Every single day, every hour, every minute! belay
  • sanik2020
    sanik2020 April 8 2020 11: 04 New
    +1
    “Against Russian tanks”: Poland is going to order a new grenade launcher

    But are grenade launchers divided into, against Russian and, against non-Russian?
    And it will turn out like in the old cinema: Yes, he has the wrong grenade system.
  • Yurkaza
    Yurkaza April 8 2020 11: 21 New
    0
    Let them, nowhere to put money.
  • Avior
    Avior April 8 2020 11: 37 New
    +1
    I read the article again
    I did not understand how sideways the author attached the reusable RPG-7 to the Poles’s attempt to make their own lightweight disposable grenade launcher, like the Spanish S-90 or the Soviet RPG-26.
    He does not see the difference in grenade launchers?
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 April 8 2020 12: 30 New
    -1
    Quote: novel xnumx
    and who will bite !?

    Jews of course! They are to blame for everything. Moreover, always and everywhere.
  • grandfather_Kostya
    grandfather_Kostya April 8 2020 12: 37 New
    0
    and the need for grenade launchers is explained by the need for protection against a possible Russian attack.

    I will allow myself a small correction: "and the need for grenade launchers is explained by the need for POSSIBLE protection against a possible Russian attack."
  • orionvitt
    orionvitt April 8 2020 12: 54 New
    0
    if a war begins with Russia, then a lot of time for Russian tank columns to move through the territory of the same Poland will not be required.
    So why are they puffing then? If the whole alignment has long been known and everyone knows about it in advance. If this happens (though it’s not clear why Russia needs this), then we will get a repetition of the old history of 1939, though this time from the east. That's just to free the Poles, no one will come. laughing