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Trump authorized the sale of aircraft engines for COMAC C919 in China: version about the reason

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There are reports from China that the American company General Electric received permission from the US administration to export to the PRC aviation engines for passenger airliners COMAC C919. Recall that earlier in the White House they talked about their unwillingness to support such a deal, arguing that China can get the latest technologies in aircraft engine building and use them in the future to their advantage.

For example, as the Trump administration noted, obtaining American engines will allow the Chinese to increase their level of competition with Boeing, especially considering the situation in which the Boeing 737 MAX finds itself after a number of identified shortcomings.

Now, it is reported that GE has received an export permit, after which it will be able to export its aircraft engines for the needs of Chinese aircraft manufacturing enterprises.

China is ready to purchase CFM LEAP-1C engines for its narrow-body passenger aircraft from an American company.

Now the US president has decided to "make concessions" and said he is not going to act to the detriment of American companies working for profit.

Trump:

I am sure that China will buy our aircraft engines. After all, they are the best in the world. Moreover, we do not sacrifice our national security. We will only benefit from this.

And in General Electric itself previously announced forced measures to reduce staff in connection with the crisis. According to US media, in the aviation business segment, in the field of maintenance and repair, the company is forced to lay off about 2,5 thousand employees within 3 months.

From this we can conclude about the reasons for authorizing the sale of aircraft engines. For Trump, such permission becomes a measure of a forced nature, because otherwise GE could have faced even greater problems, now the company will have a large Chinese order.
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  1. Teberii
    Teberii April 8 2020 07: 59
    +4
    In this situation, you don’t have to choose much, otherwise they will take to the streets and it doesn’t matter what vests they will be in.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent April 8 2020 08: 00
      +7
      From this we can conclude about the reasons for authorizing the sale of aircraft engines. For Trump, such permission becomes a measure of a forced nature, because otherwise GE could have faced even greater problems, now the company will have a large Chinese order.

      Quote: Teberii
      In this situation, you don’t have to choose much, otherwise they will take to the streets and it doesn’t matter what vests they will be in.

      The choice is not great yes

      When you want to eat, you have to step on the throat of your own exclusivity ...
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre April 8 2020 11: 32
        0
        For example, as the Trump administration noted, obtaining American engines will allow the Chinese to increase their level of competition with Boeing, especially considering the situation in which the Boeing 737 MAX finds itself after a number of identified shortcomings.
        If it is important for China to get several engines for study with subsequent copying, then they may well buy the plane completely. Allegedly for exploitation. And they will disassemble and study. So Trump just turned on common sense.
        1. EvilLion
          EvilLion April 8 2020 12: 49
          +3
          Having disassembled the engine, it is impossible to understand how its parts are made, and disassembling software is not at all what the original project with documentation is. Stop writing nonsense, the Chinese do not copy any engines.
          1. abrakadabre
            abrakadabre April 8 2020 13: 18
            0
            Having disassembled the engine, it is impossible to understand how its parts are made, and disassembling software is not at all what the original project with documentation is.
            That is what Trump seems to be conveying to the congressmen who came up with the initial ban. In order not to fool around and not cover up their own producers the opportunity to earn.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 April 8 2020 16: 34
              0
              Everything is as simple as a corner of a house: the sale of Motor Sich was disrupted, its engines were sold. That's the whole Trump business. hi
              1. abrakadabre
                abrakadabre April 8 2020 18: 44
                0
                Duc with Trump and so everything is clear. The main question was to these initiative congressmen. With them, then all the bodygirl formed.
    2. svp67
      svp67 April 8 2020 08: 11
      +4
      Quote: Teberii
      In this situation, you don’t have to choose much, otherwise they will take to the streets and it doesn’t matter what vests they will be in.

      Come on, all his steps are well calculated and in this case the losses for the USA are minimal, others will suffer more, the same Russia, but there is a benefit for the USA.
      1. URAL72
        URAL72 April 8 2020 09: 16
        -1
        I hope these engines will also be at our disposal. Maybe we'll find something useful.
        1. svp67
          svp67 April 8 2020 09: 33
          +1
          Quote: URAL72
          I hope these engines will also be at our disposal. Maybe we'll find something useful.

          PW21G engines from the Canadian company Pratt & Whitney are supplied to our MC-1400s and I agree that I would like to receive the new CFM LEAP-1C engine and examine it "under a microscope" ... it is very good
          1. Oyo Sarkazmi
            Oyo Sarkazmi April 8 2020 10: 54
            -3
            A good engine needs a specific glider. Otherwise, the planes will fall.
            1. svp67
              svp67 April 8 2020 11: 56
              0
              Quote: Oo sarcasm
              Otherwise, the planes will fall.

              But what about the statements of the engine operators that with our engine the fence will fly if they are pulled to each other by wire
              1. Oyo Sarkazmi
                Oyo Sarkazmi April 8 2020 15: 42
                -1
                Fences fly. Only passengers stick to the fence badly.
      2. Alekseev
        Alekseev April 8 2020 13: 09
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        Come on, all his steps are well calculated.

        hi
        That's right!
        No copying on modern aircraft engines, and other complex products will not work. Technology is needed. And they are based on an engineering school, the general technical level of industry. China is the leader in quantity, but key technologies in many areas are not yet available to it, or are available but not at all. wink
        But it becomes dependent on the supplier’s company with maintenance, repair, extension of service life, various kinds of certification, which is especially important for civil aviation.
        Here, a friend of mine recently resented: why, they say, there are so many IL-96, Putin, they can’t fly them all at all, and they even want to build the now unfashionable 4-engine airliners IL-96-400?
        But he is not aware that if suddenly sanctions for maintenance and repair of Boeings and Airbases appear, what will we get to Khabarovsk and Sakhalin?
        1. svp67
          svp67 April 8 2020 13: 21
          0
          hi
          Quote: Alekseev
          That's right!
          And now we imagine a situation where, for some reason, the United States imposes sanctions and prohibits both supplies and repairs, with technical support for these engines ... What will happen to this aircraft?
  2. svp67
    svp67 April 8 2020 07: 59
    +11
    For example, as the Trump administration noted, obtaining American engines will allow the Chinese to increase their level of competition with Boeing, especially considering the situation in which the Boeing 737 MAX finds itself after a number of identified shortcomings.
    These aircraft are of different market segments and the "Chinese" will have to sweat a lot to move Boeing and Airbus, but to bury the sales of our MC-21 abroad or to cut them down very much - yes, yes. And by the way, not only him, but also our new PD-14 engine, which could previously be considered for installation on the C919
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  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 8 2020 08: 01
    0
    Trump does business, and therefore goes to some personal costs in relation to China.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 8 2020 08: 03
    +1
    When it pins, where does the arrogance go? All will sell ... and at the same time they will keep the production of Chinese aircraft for the most "painful" - for the engines. The situation will change, Boeing will rise, Chinese planes will become its competitors - and the supply of engines will be stopped ... an excuse will be found. I hope the Chinese comrades understand this?
  6. knn54
    knn54 April 8 2020 08: 04
    +2
    Trump said: "The United States does not want to be a country with which it is impossible to do business ... Orders will just go somewhere else ... I want China to buy our aircraft engines, they are the best in the world,"
  7. Karaul14
    Karaul14 April 8 2020 08: 05
    +3
    The Chinese are certainly masters, but it is not so easy to copy technologies, otherwise one could buy any ready-made western plane with the same engine.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 April 8 2020 08: 30
      +10
      Well, Leap is unique, probably really the best engine in the world in this segment, today. 70 years of evolution from GE and 50 years of evolution from Safran are invested in it. Alloy of European and American technologies.

      Copy it will be oh how difficult. Now, if production were transferred, even without a number of components, but with technical maps, then it is possible. But just products, it is doubtful that it will be copied in the foreseeable future.
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 April 8 2020 08: 12
    +1
    Now the US president has decided to "make concessions" and said he is not going to act to the detriment of American companies working for profit.

    That's right, business, nothing more!
    The weak must leave, BUT, Trump is a cunning businessman, will find a way out for his manufacturers, companies, especially for such serious ones as Boeing. Let's see, in short.
    1. Kurare
      Kurare April 8 2020 11: 12
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      ... will find a way out for its manufacturers, companies, especially for such serious ones as Boeing. Let's see, in short.

      I think that CFM LEAP for China is a time bomb, a Trojan horse. Americans at any time can suspend the supply of engines under any pretext. I think that these steps were also negotiated with the Boeing, as no one is going to substitute America’s pride.

      An interesting mnogoghodovochka can turn out and in China for sure this option is viewed. The same MS-21 was insured, the Chinese are likely to roll out their S919 with an alternative engine too.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 9 2020 17: 20
        +1
        The Chinese hope .... yes FIG knows what they hope ???
        Across the world, more than one or two of those hopeful will be typed!
        In short, the RAKE, to which they stood in line, now seems to have diminished!
        In short, we'll see.
  9. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin April 8 2020 08: 18
    -5
    now the company will have a major Chinese zak

    But the ramp will broadcast about the Chinese threat
  10. steelmaker
    steelmaker April 8 2020 08: 25
    +3
    And we have the same. The state does not want to help domestic enterprises, because everything is private. Therefore, we sell all the most modern and the same weapon!
  11. Sergei 23
    Sergei 23 April 8 2020 08: 45
    0
    Now the US president decided to “make concessions” and said that he was not going to act to the detriment of American companies working for profit .. He supported the manufacturer + PR in the right way.
  12. APASUS
    APASUS April 8 2020 09: 39
    +1
    After the situation with Boeing, Americans became more accommodating
  13. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe April 8 2020 10: 49
    0
    Yeah .., Coronavirus removes the crowns of pride and exclusivity from "patients".
  14. iouris
    iouris April 8 2020 12: 36
    0
    Version: US security is money. Much money. Lots of. Awful lot of money.