VKS will restore the airworthiness of two more An-124 Ruslan aircraft

The Ministry of Defense intends to extend the airworthiness of another two super-heavy military transport aircraft An-124 Ruslan. It is reported by RIA News with reference to the source in aviation industry.

According to a source, the Russian Aerospace Forces ordered the extension of airworthiness and the modernization of two more super-heavy military transport aircraft An-124 Ruslan. Work will be carried out at the facilities of the Aviastar-SP Ulyanovsk enterprise, which has been engaged in this since 2004. However, the timing of the upcoming modernization and return of aircraft to the troops are not reported.

Under the next contract, the extension of the airworthiness resource and the modernization of individual systems on two super-heavy An-124-100 transporters for the Russian Aerospace Forces is planned

- the agency leads the words of the source.

As previously reported, last year similar work to restore airworthiness and modernization was carried out on three An-124 Ruslan aircraft, all the machines have already been transferred back to the aerospace forces.

To date, the Russian Air Force has 24 An-124 aircraft (consisting of the 566th regiment and 224th LO), of which 13, Ruslan, are in flight condition, taking into account the last restored one.

Comments

[svp67]

"Ruslan" is a very popular car of our VTA. So, the restoration and extension of the airworthiness of as many as two aircraft is great news.

[neri73-r]

The whole question is in the engines, how many of them are in storage in reserve and what is their residual life ?! Everything else is not a problem.

[svp67]

Quote: neri73-r

The whole question is in the engines, how many of them are in storage in reserve and what is their residual life ?! Everything else is not a problem.

These engines, although produced in Ukraine, but since the time of the USSR, their repair has been established on the territory of Russia

[bayard]

At the beginning of this year, a scandal in the Okrug was about the supply (smuggling) of two sets of new engines for the Ruslans. Will they not be installed on these sides?
In general, for good, the outskirts must be returned to the fold of the Russian State. Then the problems with motor hunger in the aircraft industry and military shipbuilding will stop, as well as the question of what to do with Sea Launch and what kind of missile to launch from it will disappear.
And it is a sin to neglect your people - you cannot build an empire without the reunification of the United Russian State, so the enemies will "eat up the bear with sandwiches" ...
And not useful.
Moreover, those who claimed to be our enemy are so ... delicious.
The little bear has grown and become a young and strong bear. And he is unlikely to want to amuse the audience by cycling in a circus.
It would be time for him to establish his own order in the forest.
In his forest.
And the bear has the WHOLE forest - his.

[grandfather_Kostya]

Quote: bayard

In general, for good, the outskirts must be returned to the fold of the Russian State. Then the problems with motor hunger in the aircraft industry and military shipbuilding will stop, as well as the question of what to do with Sea Launch and what kind of missile to launch from it will disappear.

Plants are kept on by specialists. If they scattered, and there are only "PTUsniki" available, this is no longer a plant and production on it "divorce proceedings".

[bayard]

If last year "Motor Sich" delivered (smuggled) to Russia two or three sets of engines, and did the same at the beginning of this year (two sets), and at the same time supplied several sets of engines for the Be-200 ... not to mention from helicopter engines, which by hook or by crook continue to come to Russia ... do you think there are specialists left there?
Zaporizhzhya aircraft engine was rightfully considered one of the flagships of the world aircraft engine industry.
There is also "Antonov". Now, without Russia, of course there can be nothing good there.
But.
Does Russia need new Ruslans?
We really need them and were going to resume them in joint production on the eve of the 2014 coup.
Need An-70?
Of course you need it for this and was developed by the joint efforts of 50/50.
Do we need transport / military transport aircraft to replace the An-26?
Just like, I’m sure that Ilyushinians with Il-112 get up ...
And "Mriya" would not hurt.
And GEM for new warships.
As well as the repair of power plants of Soviet-built ships (1155, 1164, etc.).
You can certainly be inflated with importance from plans for import substitution ... but so far it is not very replaced, for a long, expensive, clumsy ...
Maybe just get yours back?
On some direct losses from the unresolved issue of the Outskirts, Russia lost much more than it would have spent on restoring the integrity of its borders.
Quickly, decisively, BY LAW.
Here Ukrnaftagaz next claims Gazprom makes - 13 billion dollars. And now what? Pay again?
Or it is easier to RECOVER with the self-styled so-called. "elite" "Nazalezhnoy"?
And do not cry that you have to feed someone there!
If the enterprises again work in cooperation with their Russian partners, and the relevant lawsuits are presented to the Western organizers and instigators (which will at least write off all Ukrainian debts to Western creditors), the new federal district of Russia will not only feed itself, but also the Empire’s floor (after all in the past - the breadbasket of Russia).

[ser56]

Quote: bayard

Then the problems with motor hunger in the aircraft industry and military shipbuilding will stop, as well as the question of what to do with Sea Launch and what kind of missile to launch from it will disappear.

but others will arise - are you ready to run after the Bandera in the forests and look for them in the caches? Even the USSR after the war for 10 years was looking for them, and then amnestied ... And all these tens of millions of people and the territory must be restored at the expense of the rest of Russia, as in the Crimea ... are you ready to pay from your RFP or pension? Or offer to dispossess the oligarchs?

[bayard]

Quote: ser56

Or offer to dispossess the oligarchs?

Certainly - "Ukrainian", they are all soiled in crimes up to their ears - up to the top of their heads in blood. I testify to you as a resident of Donetsk.

Quote: ser56

but others will arise - are you ready to run after the Bandera in the forests and look for them in the caches? Even the USSR after the war for 10 years was looking for them, and then

You can’t even imagine how MUCH we have such willing, able and powerful! What are 10 years old? We’ll keep within a year. There would be a will, but there are tools and toolmakers.

Quote: ser56

And all these tens of millions of people and the territory must be restored at the expense of the rest of Russia,

WHAT FOR ?
Why would anyone restore there? There are enough people there - everything will be restored. All who fought will be obliged to atone for everything that was caused by corrective labor. For at least 3 years (the Germans worked longer, although they fought with us in less time). There, such a labor army will gather - the entire "country" \ Federal District will be rebuilt in three years. And all the resources for this in Ukraine itself (the former) are.
This is about restoring the infrastructure (did you mean it, talking about the Crimea?).
And other enterprises will again work in cooperation with Russian partners, for the Russian consumer and for the benefit of the Empire. Many enterprises that simply lay down during the fallow season and after the Nazi coup will be able to be restored again. For example, Nikolaev Shipyard.
You ask, "what's left there?" ... and I will answer - DOKI and basic infrastructure. The equipment will have to be changed, people will have to be reassembled and trained, but there is already an INFRASTRUCTURE. Cruisers and aircraft carriers were built there before.
And again they can be built there.
And then while the hotel wants a car, but nowhere to build.
And here it is - just lend a hand.
Before the coup, Ukraine completely coped with all social obligations. Even the medicine was FREE! And not insurance, as in Russia. And this is with a low workload of production.
Do you remember how, at the end of 2013, commissions from the Russian defense industry pulled into Ukraine? To look for production capacities for cooperation - up to 50 billion dollars. investments and orders are read. For a long - constant perspective. It did not grow together then - the Anglo-Saxons prevented a coup, but what prevents to return to the topic after the victorious Russian Reconquista? The Eurasian Union still needs to be built. And the domestic market of 250-300 million solvent population (minimum) must also be formed, otherwise there will be no authorship.
USSR number 2?
Why not ?
I'm with all my limbs FOR. This (USSR) is my homeland.
I was born in the Urals, grew up in Ukraine, studied (in a military university) in the Baltic states, served in the Transcaucasus ... THIS IS ALL - my Motherland.

[ser56]

Quote: bayard

"Ukrainian", they are all soiled in crimes up to their ears - up to the crown of their heads in blood.

you are an idealist - they will run away with money ...

Quote: bayard

HOW MUCH we have such willing, able and powerful!

I have no doubt - for 6 years the war ... however, from that side, too, are not children ...

Quote: bayard

And there are all the resources for this in Ukraine itself (the former).

no ... the infrastructure is worn out in the trash, labor resources either degraded or scattered abroad, there is no finance ...

Quote: bayard

those who fought will be obliged to redeem everything caused by correctional labor.

where do you take so many guards ... and also building materials, etc.?

Quote: bayard

will work again in cooperation with Russian partners

those. propose to break the newly created cooperation with such difficulty in the Russian Federation? in the military-industrial complex they won’t go for it, but in other sectors I don’t know - they will stop counting .... in most cases it’s more profitable to develop your manufacturer ....

Quote: bayard

but there is already INFRASTRUCTURE.

no, everything destroyed is more expensive to restore, and they are already building a shipyard in Kamen

Quote: bayard

Before the coup, Ukraine completely coped with all social obligations.

forget about those times ... your optimism is correct, but I'm afraid that Ukraine has passed the point of no return ....

Quote: bayard

THIS IS ALL - my Motherland.

mine is the same, but it's a story, like RI ...
30 years is a lot .... other generations have grown and it is not clear to them how this happened to you ...

[bayard]

Quote: ser56

you are an idealist - they will run away with money ...

But not with the assets that will be arrested and transferred to the treasury (enterprises, real estate, property), but they themselves will receive the status of fugitive criminals whom they are obliged to extradite ... at best, they (on the run) will be ripped off as sticky for the right of asylum - not a very enviable fate.

Quote: ser56

Quote: bayard
HOW MUCH we have such willing, able and powerful!

I have no doubt - for 6 years the war ... however, from that side, too, are not children ...

In 2014, the entire Ukrainian army was ready to surrender to the Russian Army. No fight.
I do not think that serious resistance will be rendered even now, if WILL, decisiveness and assertion are shown. Over the past 6 years, they have become accustomed to submit to brute force ... FORCE - obey. And without any special equivocations.

Quote: ser56

no ... the infrastructure is worn out in the trash, labor resources either degraded or scattered abroad, there is no finance ...

First of all, "ATO participants" will work on restoring the infrastructure. And for this, the former Ukraine has everything - crushed stone, gravel, asphalt and cement plants, metallurgy, mechanical engineering.
Finance?
Counterclaim to Western curators as the culprits of Ukrainian troubles will remove the problem of debts to the IMF. For this, of course, the will is needed, well, duck is about it. The arrested assets of runaway oligarchs after the arrest and conviction of their owners can be sold to interested people from Russia, and there are a lot of tasty things there. Money to the budget.
The restoration of cooperation chains (even Ukraine and the Donbass) will allow the launch of stopped production.
Taxes to the budget.
Russia in the export of grain in 1st place, Ukraine - in 2nd - 3rd. We add potentials and ... who is the owner of the grain market in the world?
The forced work of the ATO participants on the restoration of the destroyed infrastructure will accustom modern ukrov to physical labor, ennoble them and possibly make them human ... even former ATO participants.

Quote: ser56

where do you take so many guards ... and also building materials, etc.?

Well, I already said about building materials, but about the guards ... There have been 8 (eight) zones around Donetsk since Soviet times, and there are enough guards there, if necessary, we are sending orders. Although it is possible to organize everything according to a milder scheme — as in the United States under Roosevelt in the Depression the Great — labor camps, labor and food + the smallest share of money. The fight against unemployment was called. Then they built all their wonderful autobahns, bridges, interchanges, etc. — the entire US infrastructure began from that glorious time. But the work was forced, it was impossible to refuse, even the professors who used to pickaxe waved.

Quote: ser56

those. propose to break the newly created cooperation with such difficulty in the Russian Federation? in the military-industrial complex they won’t go for it, but in other sectors I don’t know - they will stop counting .... in most cases it’s more profitable to develop your manufacturer ....

Why break? Develop and complement! Do you think our aviation industry will refuse Motor Sich helicopter engines? Never ! Moreover, the quantity produced in Russia is not enough, let alone the quality ... But on the basis of the same Klimovsk helicopter helicopters, there is also an overload for the Il-112 \ 114 screw. But you can divide the specialization and provide an EXHAUSTIVE number of aircraft engines for the industry.
For the same Be-200, so far, move ONLY with Motor-Sich. And for the An-124. And for the Mi-26. And for the An-148.
And when did Rogozin promise the missiles for Sea Launch? When are they expected? And will there be?
And the launch platform and the support ship are in port.
They stand idle!
By ship power plants.
Let's say for 22350 and even for 22350M GEMs are already (almost) ready.
And who will repair the power plant 1155? After all, they are all being driven into modernization / calibration. If the manufacturer's enterprise - "Zorya-Mashproekt" (which should enter the USC after the reconquest) is engaged in the repairs, as well as the engines for other projects, then military shipbuilding in our country may not just move, but go at the most remarkable pace.
For now - motor hunger!
I'm not even talking about Antonov - the mountain will fall off my shoulder. An-124 will go into production again in Ulyanovsk. The An-70 is also most likely to be reanimated as a project, because the plane turned out to be just wonderful. An-148 will again go into production in Voronezh for the Army and the national economy. The Il-112, which so cruelly tortures the Ilyushin design bureau, overloaded with other orders, in cooperation with the Antonov design bureau, will probably bring and launch this much needed aircraft into series production faster and more successfully.
Yuzhnoye Design Bureau ... is simply the flagship of Soviet rocket science, which has still not lost many competencies ... and archives ...
And so much more.
So do not be upset Russian military industrial complex. Not a little bit.
And there will be MUCH joys.

Quote: ser56

no, everything destroyed is more expensive to restore, and they are already building a shipyard in Kamen

You can forget about B. Kamne for military orders in the medium term for sure - there orders from Rosneft and Novatek are decades ahead of the roof. They demand that they don’t need one such shipyard, just give one or two of them the same.
About infrastructure in Nikolaev and its stocks and docks. Do you know when the Vladivostok dock is built? On the eve of the Russo-Japanese War of 1904, it is still functioning and is still working. Nikolaev infrastructure is much younger.
And about the devastation ... remember the state of the Kerch Shipyard in 2014, nothing worked there for decades, devastation and desolation. And this year already two helicopter carriers will be laid (I hope). Things like docks (of this size), slipways, outfitting walls, access infrastructure, etc. ... it is long and difficult to build. For example, look at the torment with the dock for "Kuznetsov" and the pace of construction in B. Kamna.
Restore faster and more reliable.

Quote: ser56

Before the coup, Ukraine completely coped with all social obligations.

forget about those times ... your optimism is correct, but I'm afraid that Ukraine has passed the point of no return ....

If you are on a socio-economic plan, then believe me - everything is fixable. If on the moral and ideological ... believe me, the change of ideology from Bandera-Fascist to sane human will be quite easy and with a hefty spiritual upsurge.
Only WILL is needed.
Believe me, they will look at Russia as a historical loser until it returns to its legitimate historical borders. And China, and Arabs with Turks, and Iran, and India ... and Europe, of course, will take Russia seriously only in its former borders. And right away they will CALM, ACCEPT, SMIR and will be treated with due respect and beneficial fear (this is necessary).
And without it - no way.
After all, they still say "where are you going when you have a mess in Ukraine." They quite rightly believe that this mess is in Russia. In Ukraine !
And Belarus is like playing tricks with her mustache with a swag ...
While there is no order at HOME, the OWNER will not be taken seriously.
ORDER must be brought!

Quote: ser56

30 years is a lot .... other generations have grown and it is not clear to them how this happened to you.

Exactly - they look and are amazed how you fathers about such a country .... hatched.
TIME TO COLLECT STONES.

[ser56]

Quote: bayard

at best, they (on the run) will be stripped of them as sticky for the right of asylum - not a very enviable fate.

do you feel sorry for them? alas, but the working capital will disappear - it means you get the plants - bankrupt ...

Quote: bayard

In 2014, the entire Ukrainian army was ready to surrender to the Russian Army

again, all of Russia ... but I wrote above not about the army, but about the forest Bandera-see. 1944-55g ...
Even if you subjugate them, we will get an internal hidden enemy ... stop repeating mistakes

Quote: bayard

Counterclaim to Western curators as the culprits of Ukrainian troubles will remove the problem

funny you were not robbed for this ....

Quote: bayard

Accustom modern ukrov to physical labor, ennoble them and possibly make a man ... even the former participants of the ATO.

Do you believe in Soviet fairy tales on the reforging of man? Alas, only Makarenko could ....

Quote: bayard

even former professors waved with a pickaxe.

there are no funny former professors ... you cannot steal knowledge ...

Quote: bayard

Do you think our aviation industry will refuse Motor Sich helicopter engines?

already refused .... only put on the old ... all the rest of your words do not take into account the simple - Russia will no longer develop Ukraine ... It is established that this state is the enemy, regardless of its leaders ....

Quote: bayard

And who will do the repair of the 1155 power plant?

already doing in the Russian Federation

Quote: bayard

For example, look at the torture with the dock for "Kuznetsov"

the dock is needed and not over the straits ...

Quote: bayard

Yuzhnoye Design Bureau ... is simply the flagship of Soviet rocket science, which has still not lost many competencies ... and archives ...

we already have 2 KB - that's enough ...

Quote: bayard

they will look at Russia as a historical loser until it returns to its legal historical borders.

we do not care ....

Quote: bayard

Exactly - they look and are amazed how you fathers about such a country .... hatched.

they themselves wanted independence in 1991 ....

[bayard]

Quote: ser56

they themselves wanted independence in 1991 ....

Who wanted to?
Was Yeltsin when he passed the law on the independence of Russia?
From the USSR!
The country was destroyed by the CPSU and the KGB. It was a conspiracy of the elites when the party and Soviet bonzes desired to become bourgeois and privatize the property of the Soviet state.
At that time I was still a young officer, but first I watched the processes from the RIC of the air defense unit in one of the hot spots, from where the collapse of the country began. Believe me, the awareness was ... quite high, in any case, I heard Yazov's report to Gorbachev on the suppression of the rebellion in Baku through a closed channel several times ... And the next day he (Gorb) said that he had nothing to do with it and "it the military nakosyachili ", although the military then worked quickly and accurately.
I saw what the personnel policy was on the eve of the putsch, after which "failure" there was a coup.
I knew Khodarkovsky and Mevzlin when they still headed the NTTM Center at the Komsomol Central Committee on Sretenka ... Not only that, I worked for some there (after leaving the Army in early 1991).
I remember how in February 1992 the entire oil industry of Russia was divided and privatized.
And in the summer of this year, the entire industry was on the verge of collapse and, as a result, to bankruptcy. Then managed to save the industry ...
It is not up to you to decide what is needed, should and is useful for Russia.
Yes, you do not seem to understand what Russia is.
That there is no "Ukraine" or "Belorussia", but there is White, Small, New, Chervona RUSSIA. There is Slobozhanshchina (Kharkov region). All this together with Great Russia is RUSSIA, and in a rather narrow sense of the word.
And what you advocate is defeatism, alarmism and hacking. No matter how it surprised you. Because it’s not even the neighbor’s hut that burns, but the next room in your own apartment.
There are no Ukrainians.
Did Soloviev teach you this in 6 years? He is well paid for it and he knows his business. You can consider yourself an honorable and even a certified nightingale ...
I did not live in Donetsk before the war, I lived 200 km away. to the west, and we also have mines there. And the area is different. And now some overseas clever people began to inspire people that completely different, terrible and wild ... "Colorades" live in Donetsk and Lugansk ... Although the St. George ribbon was worn throughout Ukraine at the beginning of the Russian Spring.
Not in Russia Russian Spring has begun. And not even in the Crimea.
And throughout the Southeast, as a movement whose purpose was to divert the forces of the putschists from the Crimea, not to allow them to strangle Crimeans, to stretch, to disperse its forces.
We killed for these tapes (and continue).
With such a ribbon in the buttonhole (on the sleeve, as a chevron, etc.), the defenders of the Donbass died ... who not only pulled the attention and forces of Bandera Kiev from the Crimea, but essentially defended the honor of Russia and all Russians, showing that fascism was not accepted obediently, the horns were broken off under the walls of Donetsk and Lugansk. Here they are fighting for all Russians ... in general, for all people who have not accepted this ideology. That is why we have so many volunteers from around the world who fought (and now there are still some).
Klimovsky engines are good and enough?
Do not tell me, I have enough friends who are aware of these processes.
GES 1155 learned to repair?
And how much time did it take to just such a BOD?
What ordeals?
And how many are still in the queue for modernization?
Are you sure that you can handle it? ... However, it is clearly not up to you to handle ... How are things going with ship repair (and I am a Russian citizen born in Russia)? For how many years are the ships that were built in two to three less time worth repairing.
Exactly enough power?
And is everything wonderful in aviation too?
Right?
MS-21, "Super-Jet", Il-76MD90A, Il-112, Il-114, Tu-214, Il-276, Il-96-400, Il-78, A-100, Be-200 ...
Is at least one of these programs working fine?
Exactly import substitution and self-sufficiency?
And without the engines for the Be-200 can you build?
And to restore airworthiness, and even more so to upgrade the An-124 without D-18 engines?

... What kind of Ukraine are you talking about?
About Zalesskaya?
With Moscow in the capitals?
There is no such state.
And there is no such people.
Do you want to speak in bird language? Coined concepts?
My friend, 65 years old, has been fighting in Gorlovka. On the fighting day is already ...
And you live peacefully, comfortably. ... and consider yourself Russia.
Only real Russia is here now - where people have shed blood for almost 6 years for Russian identity.
And you health, happiness and safety.

... "Russia again ..."
We are Russia.
And while you are determined.

[ser56]

Quote: bayard

when did you pass the law on independence of Russia?
From the USSR!

you don’t know the latest history - the law was about sovereignty ....

Quote: bayard

The country was destroyed by the CPSU and the KGB.

more precisely, the RCP (b) by creating the USSR from Russia .... then it was just a development of the process ...
"Not only that, I worked there," what kind of connections do you have - why didn't you get rich?

Quote: bayard

It is not up to you to decide what is needed, should and is useful for Russia.

For me - I am a citizen of Russia! I went through all the difficulties with her in the 90s, while you stayed abroad ... It’s you - a former officer and took part in the collapse of the Russian economy, when you worked with odious figures, and now they began to teach us! .

Quote: bayard

Yes, you do not seem to understand what Russia is.

not for you to teach me! when Russia was bad - you found a cozy country, and now it has collapsed ... you have already proffufuated the 2nd country ...

Quote: bayard

Because it’s not even the neighbor’s hut that burns, but the next room in your own apartment.

and where were you, officer, during the Chechen wars? when your fellow citizens fought against Russia? and now a flea has come out of the feather bed ....

Quote: bayard

Did Soloviev teach you this in 6 years?

sorry for you, then went hysterical .... It was your country - and you again gave it away - and we are to blame ... it is not for you to teach me! you are a permanent defeatist ... I would say easier - but banned ....

Quote: bayard

I'm a Russian citizen born in Russia)

not at all - you remembered about Russia when it was hot, and so tumble - field ...

Quote: bayard

And you live peacefully, comfortably. ... and consider yourself Russia.

we did it in our Russia! how could, but not foreign to teach us ....

Quote: bayard

where for Russian identity for almost 6 years people shed blood.

and this is a retribution for how they voted for the independence ....

[bayard]

Quote: ser56

you don’t know the latest history — the law was about sovereignty.

And ?!
The law was ON SOVEREIGNTY!
From what ?!
From what jurisdiction did the Yeltsin RSFSR declare its sovereignty?
Not from a single state of the USSR - the heir to RI?
I know too well the latest history.
And you are manipulating, dodging, which means - LIES.

Quote: ser56

more precisely, the RCP (b) by creating the USSR from Russia .... then it was just the development of the process ...

Do you yearn for RI?
Are you sure that people lived better in RI than in the USSR? People, not a gang of parasites and, for the most part, a newcomer "elite"?
I’m a grand-nephew of the commander of the Chapaev’s division (friend and deputy Vasily Ivanovich, who headed the division after his death), but was friends with the younger grandson of the general who made the plan and carried out the rout of the Chapaev’s headquarters ... And I studied at the military university with the great-grandson of the general from the infantry Yudenich ... and many other interesting people he knew from life. Any revolution, revolution, war is a tragedy for the people and a monstrous shock for the state. But our State survived, survived, although it changed its name several times. But the essence of his (state) remained the same - this is the Great Eurasian Empire created by the RUSSIAN PEOPLE. It was about him - the Russian People, that his best sons took care, protected and saved as best they could.
Although this is not available to you in understanding.

Quote: ser56

what are your connections - why not get rich?

I just made my choice, which to this day I think is right and I have never doubted it.

Quote: ser56

For me - I am a citizen of Russia! I went through all the difficulties with her in the 90s, while you stayed abroad ...

Abroad WHAT?
I did not hand over my passport to a citizen of the USSR ... They seized it from me during the arrest of the SBU in 2014.
And WHAT did you go through that another Russian citizen did not go through? What are such incredible difficulties?
Turn around yourself and see a sea of ​​people like you ... but more balanced and modest.

Quote: ser56

It’s you, a former officer, who took part in the collapse of the Russian economy when you worked with odious figures,

In the collapse did not accept.
But in saving from the collapse of one of the leading industries, which Russia is proud of to this day, he accepted. The oil industry then (summer 1992) was saved from collapse, in conditions of hyperinflation ... a certain program was drawn up, which is still considered ... ingenious ... later Gazprom adopted it ... and maybe someone else, I have not tracked. And at that time I no longer worked in the structures of "odious figures". And when I worked with them, they were not yet odious.

Quote: ser56

not for you to teach me! when Russia was bad - you found a cozy country, and now it has collapsed ... you have already proffufuated the 2nd country ..

I have never left My Country.
And she didn’t hand over her passports.
And not many were more comfortable where I lived ... although I had a chance to work in Moscow too - in the mid-90s.
And certainly I had nothing to do with the collapse of the Outskirts. And it was not in my power to save her from collapse ... although there were attempts, I will not begin to hide it.

Quote: ser56

and where were you, officer, during the Chechen wars? when your fellow citizens fought against Russia? and now a flea has come out of the feather bed ..

Quote: ser56

sorry for you, then went hysterical .... It was your country - and you gave it again - and we are to blame ... not to teach me you! you are a permanent defeatist ... I would say more simply - but they will be banned ....

So the words of my teacher (at a military university) - masters of sports in heavy weight:
"From the bushes he called the wolf a bastard ..."
Something tells me that if you were meeting in person, you would not ...
And in your case THIS is really a tantrum.

Quote: ser56

we did it in our Russia! how could, but not foreign to teach us ....

And what have you personally done in Russia?
Let me remind you, I am a citizen of Russia, born in Russia and Russian by nationality ... But your membership in my Great People ... is somehow doubtful. You are too slippery and hysterical ... So WHAT did you do in Russia, or for Russia, that you are so proud of yourself?

Quote: ser56

Quote: bayard
where for Russian identity for almost 6 years people shed blood.

and this is a retribution for how they voted for the independence.

But for such words in a decent society ... they call for an answer.
But are you used to irresponsibility?
Right ?
Right .

[ser56]

Quote: bayard

From what ?!

from his infringement-when Russia was the donor of the entire USSR ....

Quote: bayard

And you are manipulating, dodging, which means - LIES.

fi, yes you are banal and boring ...

Quote: bayard

Are you sure that people lived better in RI than in the USSR? People, not a gang of parasites and, for the most part, a newcomer "elite"?

sure! even Khrushchev himself admitted that, being a locksmith, he lived in the Republic of Ingushetia better than workers now live with him .... In the USSR, the people lived most of the time half-starved, in cramped conditions, without political and other rights ... and workers ’speeches were shot until 1962
as for the elites, after 1917, non-Russians came to the highest ranks ... for self-education, you can read about the national composition of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks, the Council of People's Commissars, the Cheka / GPU / NKVD and these same bodies by regions ...
you don’t know the history of Russia, but only the tales of Agitprop ...
"I am the grand-nephew of the commander of the Chapayev division (friend and deputy of Vasily Ivanovich, who headed the division after his death)" I sympathize, bad heredity ...

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Abroad WHAT?
I didn’t hand over my passport to a citizen of the USSR

Russia! The USSR and the Russian Federation are different states ...

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but more balanced and modest.

Do you dream of managing the submissive?

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But in salvation from the collapse of one of the leading industries, which Russia is still proud of, he accepted.

funny with you ... What could you understand in the oil industry, political instructor?

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I have never left My Countries

demagoguery started from an independent ... as it was ...

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Something tells me that if you were meeting in person, you would not ...

the usual tactics of sofa internet warriors ...

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And in your case THIS is really a tantrum.

plagiarized ...

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And what have you personally done in Russia?

1) from which hangover is she yours, overlaid?
2) I live and work for her good and prosperity ... And not bad ...

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You are too slippery and hysterical

1) you are stupid and do not know how to lead a discussion ...
2) re-read your flows of consciousness and my balanced answers, behave as an institute, political instructor ...

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Right ?

whined? I do not serve ...

[bayard]

Quote: ser56

Do you dream of managing the submissive?

The newest history of Russia knows many "recalcitrant" Dudayev, Raduev, Basayev ... do you want to join them?

Quote: ser56

What could you understand in the oil industry, political instructor?

Well, let's say not a political instructor, in the army I was engaged in operational work as part of the reconnaissance and information center of the compound.
That program was economic, and the head of the brainstorming group at the ministry, a good friend of mine, and his staff, understood the oil industry. They could not cope, I helped. The industry was saved and everyone as a result, life was a success.

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I live and work for her good and prosperity ...

And why not in the historical homeland? Is food better in Russia? It's time, time. Will cease to serve soon.

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demagoguery went from

Hutspa?
Unmasks, Seryozha.
Are you definitely not afraid of the coronovirus?

[neri73-r]

Quote: bayard

bayard Yesterday, 23:07

Hats off to you! The scale of thought is felt.

[meandr51]

Now there are thermal imagers, drones, and even Bandera didn’t go the same way, he couldn’t last long without a shower.

[ser56]

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and Bandera was not the one to go, in a cache without a shower he could not last long.

it’s good to fight from the couch ....

[bayard]

Quote: ser56

it’s good to fight from the couch ..

Have you tried?
To fight?
"Said the couch dude
How difficult it is to fight from the couch ... "

[ser56]

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To fight?

I do it all the time in my field ...
my product is supplied by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

[bayard]

I sympathize with the RF Ministry of Defense.

[ser56]

Quote: bayard

I sympathize with the RF Ministry of Defense.

1) and I am your wife or children - if there is ...
2) Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is not your ukroarmiya

[bayard]

Judging by your rhetoric, you are "supplying" the Ukrainian army.
Seryozha, admit it.
My Army is Soviet. In it I served and took the oath. The Russian Army is its successor, therefore, I sympathize with it with such a supplier.
Seryozha, come on, don’t cipher ... well, what is the RF Ministry of Defense in your case, eh ... ... supplier.

[fiberboard]

In Siberia, many already lie, the former Bandera. Children can still sometimes ring something. And all the grandchildren, Russian completely.

[ser56]

Quote: fiberboard

And all the grandchildren, Russian completely.

in the USSR, too, they thought so in the 80s .... tenacious ideas ...

[AnderS]

In general, for a good Outskirts, it is necessary to return to the bosom of the Russian State.

What kind of return are you talking about here? There would be something left to hold. The epidemic has shown very clearly - if the crisis is a little more serious - and Russia will fall down. Instead of leading the fight against the disease centrally, the "president" and the "government" have withdrawn themselves and can only call for something. Regions are doing a lot, who closes the borders, and who introduces illegal fines - the example of Chechnya and Tatarstan, and the central government only threatens them with a finger. If you also start a campaign to join something, then something will come up here that it's scary to think about.

[ser56]

Quote: AnderS

be a little more serious crisis - and Russia will fall

Seriously? see the Russian Federation - 10 infected, 000 US .... you are not a professional critic - mourner at the content of the State Department?

[AnderS]

Are you not a professional critic - a cryman for the content of the State Department? bully

Unfortunately, no.

see RF - 10 infected, 000 US ....

And what does this have to do with it? Can you read?

The epidemic showed very clearly - if the crisis is a little more serious - and Russia will crumble.

Here, with 10000 infected regions, they don’t know how to isolate themselves from the neighbor, or close the borders, or impose a curfew, and they don’t have to enter all this legitimate rights. And since those who have this right have eliminated themselves from the introduction of all these measures, then the regions are doing something much ... And if there were at least 400000 people who were sick, like in the USA, but say 200? What would happen in Russia then? Just do not tell me about the Polovtsy and Pechenegs ...

[ser56]

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And what does this have to do with it? Can you read?

1) I can even think, but you - alas ....
2) because of the epidemic in the Russian Federation and such a relative to others, that measures were taken by the government ..

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have no legal right

in your head - no more ...

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And if there were at least 400000 people sick as in the USA, but say 200?

would - interfere ....

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Unfortunately, no.

I appreciate honesty ...

[AnderS]

1) I can even think

Seriously?
does not look like it

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have no legal right

in your head - no more ... bully

can you bring a reference to a law that allows the government of Tatarstan to fine people for going out? Or tell Chechnya to close its borders?

[ser56]

Quote: AnderS

unlike lol

only for you...

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Or tell Chechnya to close its borders?

are you ready to answer for your words? quarantined because of an epidemic! as well as other subjects of the Russian Federation ...

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Which allows the government of Tatarstan to fine people for going out?

go to the website of the government of Tatarstan Let me remind you that in the Russian Federation regions can establish their own laws if they do not contradict the federal ...

[AnderS]

are you ready to answer for your words? quarantined because of an epidemic! as well as other subjects of the Russian Federation ...

are you ready to answer for yours? Firstly, there is no quarantine in Russia, tk. quarantine and indistinct "self-isolation"

go to the website of the government of Tatarstan bully Let me remind you that in the Russian Federation regions can set their own laws if they do not contradict the federal ...

I honestly spit from the high bell tower on the website of the Tatarstan government
for me, and for you, actually (but if you like it better, you can live by the laws established by the government of Tatarstan) there is a constitution of the Russian Federation which says:

Article 55
2. No laws shall be enacted in the Russian Federation that abrogate or derogate the rights and freedoms of man and citizen.

Article 56
1. In a state of emergency, in order to ensure the safety of citizens and protect the constitutional order in accordance with federal constitutional law may be established individual restrictions on rights and freedoms with an indication of the limits and duration of their validity.

Federal Constitutional Law of 30.05.2001 N 3-FKZ (as amended on 03.07.2016) "On the state of emergency"
Article 4. Introduction of a state of emergency

1. A state of emergency throughout the Russian Federation or in its individual areas introduced by decree of the President of the Russian Federation with immediate notification of this to the Council of the Federation of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation and the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation.
2. The decree of the President of the Russian Federation on the introduction of a state of emergency is immediately submitted to the Council of the Federation of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation for approval.

Without the introduction of an emergency, as it is written in the constitution, no one can introduce any measures, criminal or administrative, restricting human rights.
Well, where do we have a nullifier decree on the introduction of a state of emergency in Tatarstan or Chechnya, can you tell me? Or are these subjects no longer a "separate area" of the Russian Federation, but an independent state?

[ser56]

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Firstly, there is no quarantine in Russia, tk. quarantine and vague "self-isolation"

what? AK article fits ....

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spit high

this is a parenting issue to your parents ....

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no one can introduce any criminal or administrative measure restricting human rights.

you’ll get sick, you won’t get to intensive care unit because of the lack of beds, like in the USA ... but you will be sure of your personal freedom read Presidential Decree
"In order to ensure the sanitary and epidemiological well-being of the population on the territory of the Russian Federation in connection with the spread of a new coronavirus infection (COVID-19), in accordance with Article 80 of the Constitution of the Russian FederationI stop:

1. Set April 4-30, 2020 inclusively non-working days with salaries retained by employees.

2. Top officials (heads of the highest executive bodies of state power) of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation with taking into account the provisions of this Decree, based on the sanitary-epidemiological situation and the distribution of the new coronavirus infection (COVID-19) in the subject of the Russian Federation, to ensure the development and implementation of a set of restrictive and other measures, primarily:

a) determine, within the boundaries of the relevant constituent entity of the Russian Federation, the territories on which the implementation ofcomplex of restrictive and other eventsaimed at ensuring the sanitary and epidemiological welfare of the population (hereinafter referred to as the relevant territory), including in the context of the introduction of a high alert, emergency;

b) suspend (limit) the activity of individual organizations located in the relevant territory, regardless of the legal form of ownership and form of ownership, as well as individual entrepreneurs, taking into account the provisions of paragraphs 4 and 5 of this Decree;

c) establish a special procedure for the movement of persons and vehicles in the relevant territory, with the exception of vehicles engaged in inter-regional transportation.

3. Restrictive and other measures may be implemented at different periods of time within the general period established by paragraph 1 of this Edict.

4. This Decree does not apply to the following organizations (employers and their employees):

a) continuously operating organizations;

b) medical and pharmacy organizations;

c) organizations providing the population with food and essential goods;

d) organizations performing emergency work in emergency situations and (or) when there is a threat of spreading a disease that poses a danger to others, in other cases that endanger the life, health or normal living conditions of the population;

e) organizations performing emergency repair and handling operations;

f) organizations that provide financial services in terms of emergency functions (primarily settlement and payment services);

g) other organizations determined by decisions of the supreme executive body of state power of a constituent entity of the Russian Federation based on the sanitary-epidemiological situation and the specifics of the spread of a new coronavirus infection (COVID-19) in a constituent entity of the Russian Federation.

5. This Decree may apply to system-forming, as well as scientific and educational organizations in coordination with the Government of the Russian Federation.

6. The federal state bodies, bodies governing state extrabudgetary funds to determine the number of federal government employees and employees, respectively, from April 4 to April 30, 2020 inclusive of the functioning of these bodies.

7. The state bodies of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation and local authorities based on the sanitary and epidemiological situation and the distribution of the new coronavirus infection (COVID-19) in the relevant territory of the Russian Federation, determine the number of state and municipal employees providing from April 4 to 30, 2020 inclusive the functioning of these organs.

8. Organizations engaged in the production and production of mass media shall determine the number of employees who ensure the functioning of these organizations from April 4 to April 30, 2020.

9. This Decree shall enter into force on the day of its official publication. "
http://kremlin.ru/acts/news/63134

as can be seen from the text of the decree - Kadyrov acts within its framework, if you do not agree with the GDP - to the court ...
As I understand it, you are a bad lawyer and will lose ...

[AnderS]

as can be seen from the text of the decree - Kadyrov acts within its framework, if you do not agree with the GDP - to the court ...

But it’s obvious that you’re just wonderful.
1. This decree is contrary to the constitution, because

Section 17 of the Constitution

1. The Russian Federation recognizes and guaranteed the rights and freedoms of man and citizen in accordance with generally recognized principles and norms of international law and in accordance with this Constitution.
2. Fundamental human rights and freedoms inalienable and belong to everyone from birth.

Civil (personal) rights are human rights as a biosocial being, regardless of gender and social status: the right to life, liberty and integrity, the free determination of nationality and language, honor and dignity, citizenship, freedom of conscience and religion, and equality before by law and court, to the presumption of innocence, freedom of movement and choice of place of residence, inviolability of home and privacy, the right to privacy of telephone conversations, correspondence, etc.

And now regarding that "decree" which you quoted here:

Section 80 of the Constitution

1. The President of the Russian Federation is the head of state.
2. The President of the Russian Federation is the guarantor of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the rights and freedoms of man and citizen. In accordance with the procedure established by the Constitution of the Russian Federation, it takes measures to protect the sovereignty of the Russian Federation, its independence and state integrity, ensures the coordinated functioning and interaction of government bodies.
3. The President of the Russian Federation, in accordance with the Constitution of the Russian Federation and federal laws, determines the main directions of domestic and foreign policy of the state.
4. The President of the Russian Federation as the head of state represents the Russian Federation within the country and in international relations.

1. From article 80 it follows that the President of the Russian Federation can empower

Top officials of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation

so that they carry out

development and implementation of a set of restrictive and other measures,

after all, this contradicts Article 55 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation? I will bring her again, suddenly you forgot:

Article 55
2. No laws shall be enacted in the Russian Federation that abrogate or derogate the rights and freedoms of man and citizen.

and the authorities of Tatarstan precisely restrict the free movement of people by issuing illegal fines.

Especially for you, a quick wit:
If the situation is so serious that it is necessary to prevent the spread of the disease, then why the sun-faced man will not introduce a state of emergency in the territory where the sick are most, in full compliance with the law? Then can even military and police patrols be launched through the streets so that they detain irresponsible citizens? Why come up with some decrees and shift responsibility to the regions, when everything has been invented before it? Then to say again, and I have nothing to do with it, and blame all the blame on another, how does he like to do this?

Article 56
1. In a state of emergency to ensure the safety of citizens and protect the constitutional order in accordance with federal constitutional law Separate restrictions on rights and freedoms may be established, indicating the limits and duration of their validity..

2. How does it follow from article 80 that the president can issue decrees arbitrarily restricting the rights of people without introducing an emergency?

2. What constitutes the Constitutional Court in Russia is evident from the amendments to the constitution that it approved, so there is no need to send me to court.

[ser56]

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What is the Constitutional Court like in Russia

higher repetition is the benefit of nonsense, but I will answer these 2 - Zorkin opposed EBN in 1993 - forgot?

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From article 80 it follows that the President of the Russian Federation can vest authority

corny as the head of state ...
I'm too lazy to spend more time on you - good luck!

[bayard]

The question of a fundamental decision. The epidemic (which is mostly bloated - the media one) will end soon, with the first steady heat, like any flu, but questions of strategic development will remain. Now Bandera Ukraine for Russia is a constant ulcer, the threat of instability, unjustified expenses (bad debts, lawsuits against state companies, the maintenance of large military groups on its borders, support and maintenance of the republics of Donbass, the costs of import substitution of what was produced and supplied by Ukraine, the threat of terrorism, sanctions because of this (Ukraine) misunderstanding, etc., etc., etc.), and a willful decision to eliminate this hotbed of instability and return Russia to its historical borders would solve all these problems, and new ones, caused by reunification, will be more than covered by the benefits received and the elimination of the sources of current spending.
The question is in a fundamental decision, and how to implement it ... the history (including ours) knows a lot of examples. Will WILL - there will be a solution to the question.
And nothing will come out - only it will become stronger.
After this - a viral crisis, there will be an economic one, possibly with a redivision of the world and spheres of influence in it. If Russia does not gather together in its former limits, does not gather the Russian people into the United State ... it will be difficult to talk about the future ... especially after the change of president.
You need to think about the future.
And build it.

[AnderS]

The epidemic (which is mostly bloated - the media one) will end soon, with the first steady heat, like any flu,

Who told you that the coronavirus will go away with the arrival of heat? Trump? Tell this to the Brazilians, who, in principle, do not have such a winter, and who are perfectly ill with this very "inflated" coronavirus, which feels great in a warm climate. And if anything, in the United States, on average, it is much warmer than in Russia.

Now Bandera Ukraine is a constant ulcer for Russia, the threat of instability, unjustified expenses (bad debts, lawsuits against state-owned companies, the maintenance of large military groups on its borders, the support and maintenance of the republics of Donbass,

I am not saying that these problems should not be solved, I am saying that Russia has now been brought to the point that it is simply not able, both for economic reasons and for political reasons, to solve these problems. We have various high-ranking officials ready to abolish "useful", in their own words, sanctions to send as humanitarian aid to Italy and the United States all available ventilators and all masks with antiseptic. When troops are brought into Ukraine, what will happen? That's right, the sanctions will only be toughened, and Putin won't be able to go anywhere at all, since he will simply not be allowed to enter any European country ... How is it that he cannot deprive himself of the opportunity to once again promote himself in the company of various Merkels and Sarkozy .. . And you say

Bandera Ukraine for Russia a constant ulcer

Yes, an ulcer, but only under Putin and company, treatment of this ulcer is impossible ...

[bayard]

I did not call for immediate accession. I talked about the need for such and preparation for the necessary actions.
You grabbed the now fashionable words - coronovirus, pandemic. And didn’t you notice how over the past decade around Russia, and indeed, dozens, if not hundreds, of US military biological laboratories have grown / scattered around the world? The same ones, they’ll throw an African swine fever from Georgia to us, or some other happiness. The coronovirus itself is no worse than any other flu. Yes, it complicates the lungs, for the elderly it is really very dangerous.
For very elderly people with severe chronic diseases. Old people must be protected.
But the main danger is not in the virus with the crown, but in the vaccine and tests that we are offered. Now THIS will be deadly.
It will be a massacre, through medical infection - tests and a vaccine.
And one must really be afraid of this and not allow oneself to stab anything and test anything.
But all this hysteria is not for long - the organizers of this genocide (coming, while warming up and preparing the conditions for mass vaccination) are already breaking through the ridge.
Not with us.
And we, too, are not going through obvious processes for everyone. Sberbank was nationalized - it was bought from the US Federal Reserve and the City of London for 300 billion rubles. , along the way, returning from the previously inaccessible and uncontrolled RF, egg capsules, over 2 trillion rubles.
To the budget.
So now the funds for all the necessary measures will be (we still do not know how much this self-isolation will cost the population and the economy).
Speaking about the need for Russia to return its territories, people and assets, I spoke about the realization of the strategic need for this and the need to have a strategic plan for this, and not about momentary outbursts.
What remains to be done must first be realized.
And that's exactly what I mean.

[AnderS]

Do you hear yourself from the outside? What nonsense are you talking about?

You grabbed the now fashionable words - coronovirus, pandemic. And they did not notice how over the past decade around Russia, and indeed throughout the world, tens, if not hundreds of US military biological laboratories, have scattered

If these same laboratories are located around Russia, are to blame for the creation of the virus, then why is it that in Russia the mortality from this virus is much lower than in other countries? What did the biologists in the laboratories not finalize? And why is the US ahead of the rest of the world both in the number of cases and the number of deaths? Is the US government intentionally destroying its citizens and shooting itself at the foot of the fruit of the unemployed and causing enormous damage to its economy?

But the main danger is not in the virus with the crown, but in the vaccine and tests that we are offered. Now THIS will be deadly.
It will be a massacre, through medical infection - tests and a vaccine.
And one must really be afraid of this and not allow oneself to stab anything and test anything.

Do not worry, nobody will test anything on you.

And we, too, are not going through obvious processes for everyone. Sberbank was nationalized - it was bought from the US Federal Reserve and the City of London for 300 billion rubles. , along the way, returning from the previously inaccessible and uncontrolled RF, egg capsules, over 2 trillion rubles.
To the budget.
So now the funds for all the necessary measures will be (we still do not know how much this self-isolation will cost the population and the economy).

Sberbank nationalized ?! Are you out of your mind at all? Do you know why this whole scheme was even started? This scheme was conceived in order to sell or rather transfer the "purchased" shares of Sberbank to the so-called effective owners. Then the government will "sell" the "purchased" shares of the savings bank to Putin's cronies, all kinds of Rottenbergs, Usmanovs and other riffraff, whose income has decreased due to the oil and coronavirus crisis, and they want to eat. What prevented these one and a half or two trillion rubles, which the "government" "paid" for savings, paid by the way from the fund of "national" welfare, to be directed to the development of the medical industry, the modernization and construction of hospitals and clinics and other social benefits? And I'll tell you what was in the way. Firstly, the size of this very fund approached the mark when, according to the law, funds from it should have begun to be spent on supporting the domestic industry. Well, here is such a convenient excuse, and the size of the fund should be reduced so as not to invest in Russian industry, and the shares of Sberbank - a system-forming bank, by the way, as well as the most profitable bank, to give the right people for food, this is a multi-move, right in the style of a zeroer. You also say that Rosneft was "nationalized" by selling it to the Saudis or Qatar, I don't remember exactly who got 20% of the shares ...

In short, your diagnosis is clear - another fan of conspiracy conspiracies and the "cunning plan" of the nullifier! Do you happen to be a member of NOD?

[bayard]

Andrey, yes, we have already experienced these viruses on ourselves, and more than once. Since 2015, this infection has been launched to us regularly. Last spring, the same virus went about its symptoms and complications, I myself had been ill with it - longer than normal flu, from three weeks to a month. And there were complications to the lungs. But. Young people tolerate it easily, or almost never notice it, but for people with chronic diseases and at an age harder.
We know about these laboratories in Ukraine, especially the one near Kharkov, for a long time we know and the information is regularly updated - intelligence works. And this virus is mowing (by a disease, but not lethal) Sumerians on the front end, and our fighters were sick, but it’s easier for us - the medicine works.
Do not want to listen to good advice - your right, your life. I warned - I washed my hands.
In the United States, the virus leaked a year and a half ago, and scandals about it have been raging there for a long time, its symptoms simply gave out as allergies, then for other diseases, information was hidden. But now he (the virus in the crown) has mutated and began to mow just those who conceived it - he went upstairs, along the aristocracy, finintern and beau monde. They tried to make him a genetically sharpened weapon, but after mutating, he chose food as his own ... those who are suffering the most now, and having strengthened their amazing properties.
We assume that the law of karma worked.
On Russian people, its effect is relatively mild, and the acquired immunity also affects it. Our immunity is generally much stronger (against viruses) than among residents of Western Europe and the United States. Hence such statistics.
And the humane Bill Gates spoke about plans with the use of this virus, rampant hysteria and a vaccine that will reduce the number of humanity. I talked about plans and methods to reduce the population, today I listened to him in a new way, before it was perceived differently. You can listen to this "nice" guy and you - even in the original, even with a Russian translation - this speech is available on YouTube, but I will not give a link, I have not saved it.
I have known about the plans for the nationalization of Sberbank for a long time, as well as about the goals of this action. It’s sad and sad to listen to your opuses about this - apparently each person really judges by himself.
The nationalization of the entire financial system and ALL commercial banks (nationalization or license revocation) was planned back in 2005. Then it did not work. But to date, the vast majority of banks are under the control of the government, removing Sber from the IMF (the Fed and the City of London) under the control of the government will not bring down the banking system by the coordinated actions of Gref and Nabiulina. After that, it will be possible to begin constitutional reform with the removal of the Russian Federation from external jurisdictions (do not flatter yourself, the sovereignty of the Russian Federation is very seriously limited) and either nationalize the Central Bank or abolish it by transferring its functions to the State Bank of Russia and the Treasury of the Russian Federation, with unconditional subordination exclusively to the Russian State .

And do not answer me, do not afflict me with your competence and life position.

[AnderS]

And do not answer me, do not afflict me with your competence and life position.

And yet I will disappoint you, sorry not to impossibility.

The nationalization of the entire financial system and ALL commercial banks (nationalization or license revocation) was planned back in 2005. Then it did not work. But to date, the vast majority of banks are under the control of the government, removing Sber from the IMF (the Fed and the City of London) under the control of the government will not bring down the banking system by the coordinated actions of Gref and Nabiulina.

I repeat the question, do you generally realize the meaning of the nonsense that you write here ?!

1. Prior to the sale of Sberbank, 50% + 1 share belonged to the Central Bank. You rub me here that Sberbank was controlled by the Fed / IMF before the sale, etc. Ok, let's say I agree with you.
Who then controls the State Duma, which passes laws, as well as approves the head of the central bank? The constitution says that it is a nullifier.
Further, who nominates a candidate for the post of head of this most controlled Fed / IMF Central Bank, and also raises the question of removing the head of the Central Bank before the Duma?
We open the Constitution and what do we see there? And we see there, article 83,
which is written in black and white in part "g":

d) submits to the State Duma a candidate for appointment to the post of Chairman of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation; puts before the State Duma the issue of dismissal of the Chairman of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation;

Here in connection with the above, I have a question for you:

If the Central Bank is controlled by the Fed / IMF, and you also need to understand that in your opinion, the IMF / Fed also controls the chairman of the central bank, as you wrote here

bring down the banking system by the coordinated actions of Gref and Nabiulina.

why then the nullifier, if he is such a fighter for sovereignty, will not raise before the State Duma the question of removing this agent of influence from his post before the State Duma? Or are you going to tell me that the State Duma is controlled by the State Department along with the Fed / IMF?
And why then the nullifier does not dissolve the State Duma? According to the constitution, he is quite entitled to do this. Or will you tell me right away that the Central Electoral Commission also controls the State Department with us? Well then, don’t waste your time on it, and tell me that the nullifier is the State Department’s main and most valuable agent, because wherever you stick it, his ears stick out everywhere.

[bayard]

And why is this stream of consciousness? Why this ostentatious stupidity?
Not ashamed ?
I think no .
You still upset me.

[AnderS]

And why is this stream of consciousness? Why this ostentatious stupidity?

A stream of consciousness and stupidity, this is exactly what you have, I really look at things without pink glasses.
Is this also a "stream of consciousness"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B37HuZt7i6A

[bayard]

I remembered my first meeting with Valentin Yuryevich ... if memory serves, it was on September 30, 2005 at a creative evening by Oleg Anatolyevich Platonov, where he presented selected works by Sharapov under his editorial office ("After the victory of the Slavophiles"). At the same time, the first proposal was made to create Sharapov's economic society, and we all voted for it ...
The beginning of this evening was interesting, because everything began an hour later and almost with an alarm bell - McCain visited Moscow, and after meeting with Putin, said that he had agreed with him that Russia would transfer all its nuclear weapons and bases under US control its storage. And somewhere for the first hour and a half, this topic was awakened, discussed ... about "Putin's betrayal" ... In your opinion - "nullifier".
PASSIONS raged.
But then they returned to the main topic and everything went just fine.
And after three days, in a conversation with one very competent person ... in the rank of general, I mentioned what I heard then - is it true? The time was still unclear - anything could happen ...
And in response I heard: "Who is he (or are they) - by profession? Historian? Economist? Scientist? So let him teach, write scientific works, develop theories. And they don’t listen to any senile people from the USA. And this is a matter of national security and it will be handled by professionals. "
Almost 15 years have passed since then and the nuclear weapons of Russia, as it were under the control of the Defense Ministry and the President, remain. It is only being improved, developed and updated.
And McCain is dead.
We survived it.
Like the "Polovtsy and Pechenegs" ... and we will survive the coronavirus with Nabiulina, Gref and Bill Gates ...
You do not have the completeness of information to judge the complex processes taking place before your eyes. And this is not from a lack of understanding, but from a lack of knowledge, knowledge, as a rule, of a specific nature.
In fact, a brilliant, lightning-fast operation was performed. In one fell swoop, the State returned control of the leading bank in Russia and received 2.100 billion rubles (two trillion one hundred billion) into the budget. These funds are now needed as air - to dampen the effects of the crisis and finance costs to overcome it.
That is, Russia received both a bank and money!
Money that she could not get by direct request.
That's right - Nabiulina said that the government will not receive the money "because it will be stolen anyway"!
That's exactly what she said.
Despite the order of the President and the request of Mishustin.
Are you going to claim now that she is an "ordinary state official" appointed by the President and the Duma?
President and Duma APPROVED.
And he appointed the IMF (US Federal Reserve and the City of London).
So even in the Soviet Union, farm chairmen were appointed. It seems that they should be elected, for the collective farm is an agricultural cooperative with share participation ... But they APPOINTED the chairman, and at the meeting of collective farmers they voted APPROVED.
Only in case of the appointment of the head of the Central Bank of one of the states controlled by itself, does the IMF act much tougher than the Soviet regional committee or district executive committee.
But do not approve - we will send a new one, but certainly ours.
... True, sometimes the candidacy with the president of the state is nevertheless agreed ... as in the case of Russia. But it is AGREED upon appointment from the IMF.

And for the reminder of Valentin Yurievich - thank you, it evoked memories.

[AnderS]

McCain visited Moscow, and after meeting with Putin, he announced that he had agreed with him that Russia would transfer all its nuclear weapons and their storage bases under US control.

What are you talking about McCain’s insanity? In my opinion, not a single sane person would believe such a thing, and the fact that the event at which you attended this statement by McCain was discussed seriously only says that there were few adequate people there.
Or do you hint in such a way that Katasonov also fell into insanity, and bears what I bring in the video?

And this is a matter of national security and will be dealt with by professionals. "

Such "professionals" are worthless. Remind you that it was with the connivance, but rather the active assistance of such "professionals" that the Union was destroyed? Or do you think that the Union collapsed by itself? "Porofessionals" (Pasha Mercedes and company) is mediocre
r about with r and l and the first Chechen war. So there is no need to nod here that someone is not "professional" in something. It is enough to be able to analyze the incoming information and draw conclusions on its basis.

Well, okay, back to our sheep, you still haven’t answered, what did Katasonov say is it a stream of consciousness or not?

[bayard]

Quote: AnderS

you never answered, what Katasonov said is a stream of consciousness or not?

He said what he thought was right. That's all.
And he might not have known the whole background.
And the example I cited is just about the same thing - McCain, before leaving Moscow, gave an interview to an American agency, then spread it with lightning, ours (Platonov, Katasonov and another respected person, as well as academician Klykov) heard and began to make inquiries - Presidential Administration. They were told that this is nonsense and this can not be in principle.
But!
Confidence in the authorities then - in 2005, was not great and many could believe in conspiracy. Especially after the tricks of Yeltsin. Therefore, they discussed it seriously, and they were late for the beginning of the event (creative evening) - they made inquiries and phoned everyone. Well, at the evening they continued.
FULLY SERIOUS.
How are you now discussing "another cut of the NWF" and "fraudulent schemes".
But at the same time, you do not know the true status of the Central Bank, and as a result, of Sberbank. You do not know the status of the reserve funds in Russia, where and under whose control they are stored and who, and in what case can dispose of it.
And therefore you are mistaken.
There are those who know everything, but deliberately whip up hysteria, accusing the President and the Government of "plundering reserve funds."
And you were led to this provocation.
I hope you heard about Academician Klykov, Platonov, Katasonov? THEN they, too, were led to a provocation.
The provocation came from the ENEMY OF RUSSIA (I hope at least you will not argue with this?) McCain.
Now EVERYTHING that you say and write is a repetition of the broadcasts of "Echo of Moscow", "Meduza" and others like Navalny. I am sure that you are not aware of this and are sure that this is your sovereign opinion.
But this is the result of manipulation.
Manipulation by you.

I often hear such hysterical opinions that "FSE, we were sold, Putin fled, palaces in Holland, trillions in bank accounts in Europe ...", and I see those who believe in this and pick up ... I remember that the case in the "Klykovsky Center" - Chernigovsky Lane 36 \ b ... when he himself almost got caught ... or rather, really - he took it seriously, like everyone else ... And then there was a feeling of awkwardness ...
What you (awkwardness) do not want.

And by the way, you are probably quite young and don't remember that in 2005 McCain was not at all perceived as an "old senile" who should not be taken seriously. He was a very influential and powerful figure, and in Moscow he flew to Putin with ULTIMATUM - to surrender nuclear weapons.
After the failure in which, he called him (Putin) his personal enemy.
And he became funny for everyone, losing time after time in that extended duel ...

[ser56]

Quote: AnderS

edit as humanitarian aid to Italy and the USA all cash devices Mechanical ventilation and all masks with an antiseptic.

went open lies ...

[ser56]

Quote: bayard

The epidemic (which is mostly bloated - the media) will end soon

in the USA, more than 1900 people die the second day - is that a blast? However... I am embarrassed to ask - are you a gift not an epidemiologist yet?

Quote: bayard

this hotbed of instability and the return of Russia to its historical borders

herself - herself ...

Quote: bayard

You need to think about the future.

familiar .. . The main thesis of propaganda in the USSR ... I note that the propagandists themselves preferred to live now and satisfying ...

[bayard]

Quote: ser56

in the USA, more than 1900 people die the second day - is that a blast? However, I’m embarrassed to ask - are you a gift not an epidemiologist yet?

Whether it still will be, this virus is now exclusively for them - it has mutated and so selectively acts.
For Russia, he is not so scary, in addition, many have long been ill with them, not even suspecting that he has been walking for at least a year and a half. In our Donbass, it was with the same symptoms last spring - dry cough, lung complications, at least 3 weeks for recovery.
They were prepared by various headquarters with racial-ethnic sharpening, but in the USA there was a leak another 1,5 to 2 years ago. They hid it, passed off as other diseases, but now he mutated and went to mow the elite.
I repeat, those strains that go now are the least dangerous for Russia. But no one knows whether there will be mutations yet, therefore, the landing parties of epidemiologists are sent to study the dynamics of the infection on the ground, before it reaches us.
About the exaggerated epidemic FOR RUSSIA, I spoke. Therefore, do not panic and after a couple of weeks return to normal.
And yet, much more people die from ordinary flu and pneumonia, as well as from banal old age. Do not watch TV and you feel better.

[ser56]

Quote: bayard

this virus is now exclusively for them - mutated and

Quote: bayard

For Russia, it is not so scary, in addition, many have long been ill with them

1) MDA the next sofa virologist ....
2) you have seen enough of Solovyov, whom you don’t love so much - his hypothesis ...

Quote: bayard

but in the USA there was a leak another 1,5 to 2 years ago. They hid it, passed off as other diseases

So do you also know about the organs?

Quote: bayard

Great epidemic FOR RUSSIA I said.

if not a secret - why does your opinion mean anything? Pros think differently ...
"Testing for immunity to coronavirus infection showed that only 3% of Russians have it," said Anna Popova, the country's chief sanitary doctor, head of Rospotrebnadzor. https://rg.ru/2020/04/10/anna-popova-immunitet-k-koronavirusu-imeiut-tolko-3-rossiian.html

Quote: bayard

Do not watch TV and you feel better.

I did not ask you for advice ...

[Blondy]

Repair is good. Where is the manufacturer?

[TermNachTer]

Motor Sich will receive an order to repair 8 D - 18 engines, and maybe more. This is good news because the plant is in a very difficult situation.

[iouris]

Quote: neri73-r

The whole question is in the engines

Faulty engine - can it be replaced with a new one, but can't the power elements of the wing collapse?
Airworthiness (LH) is a characteristic of the aircraft, which is ensured by the principles envisaged and implemented in its design and flight technical parameters and allows for safe flight under the expected conditions and with established methods (strategies) of operation.
Airworthiness can be confirmed (by mandatory certification), provided, but not renewed.
When designing an object, an operation strategy is selected: "by resource", "by state", "to failure". For An-124, the strategy of operation "by resource" and "service life" is envisaged. Thus, it is not possible (legally) to "extend the resource" of the An-124 (in peacetime), even for the Ministry of Defense.

[cost]

My father flew them at 566 VTAP, at Seshcha airfield. Praised the plane. Very obedient and easy to pilot, despite the fact that there are four mid-flight engines and two auxiliary power plants. He especially praised the secondary school and the automatic piloting system PNPK “Dome-124”

[neri73-r]

Quote: Rich

My father flew them at 566 VTAP, at Seshcha airfield.

And I rode them there, at one time, once the 8th, including on night training flights! An unforgettable thing!

[Old partisan]

And Ukrainians will not squeeze out these airplanes through some sort of Dutch court?

[carstorm 11]

on the basis of what?) this is not their property))) but they may well try to forbid flying.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: carstorm 11

but try to ban the fly may well try.

Nothing. Poland circled and these circled, if necessary.

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: carstorm 11

on the basis of what?) this is not their property))) but they may well try to forbid flying.

Only the sides of the Volga-Dnepr company can ban, but not the sides of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. And on what basis?

[orionvitt]

Quote: carstorm 11

based on what?

The most honest Dutch courts have not written the law. will become with them.

[svp67]

Quote: carstorm 11

but try to ban the fly may well try.

Only for overseas flights

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Old Partisan

And Ukrainians will not squeeze out these airplanes through some sort of Dutch court?

With what fright, if they were built in Ulyanovsk?

[svp67]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

With what fright, if they were built in Ulyanovsk?

But the design bureau in Kiev and any changes, as well as the extension of the airworthiness period, must be agreed with him. They are pushing for it, by the way why are we silent about the Ukrainian modernization of Mi helicopters and MiG and Su aircraft?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: svp67

But the design bureau in Kiev and any changes, as well as the extension of the airworthiness period, must be agreed with him.

Yes, it was ... it was. I remember I suggested some changes in the email. the diagram of the product, which also entailed changes in the design. Our CDP told me - no way! Without agreement with the Civil Code. It was not the GC itself, but its representatives who arrived. They agreed with my proposal. For me, for "ratsuha" - 15 rubles paid off. So yes it was. But now other times. All technical problems are solved by LAWYERS advanced in western jurisprudence.

[Old partisan]

That's actually what I had in mind.

[Mebius]

Quote: Old Partisan

And Ukrainians will not squeeze out these airplanes through some sort of Dutch court?

Yes, they tried already, but it’s not them for a long time, but what remains of the USSR
Submit to the Hague, maybe 1000 dollars will be sued
But if Russia sues you, then it's better to hide the bacon.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Mobius

then it's better to hide the bacon ..

there is no "that" bacon ... All Polish, bacon too ..

[dvina71]

Quote: Old partisan

And Ukrainians will not squeeze out these airplanes through some sort of Dutch court?

Wring out from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation? I would like to see such an attempt ..

[Mik13]

Quote: dvina71

Wring out from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation? I would like to see such an attempt ..

Airworthiness certificates will be recalled - that's all. It will be possible to fly exclusively over the territory of the Russian Federation and international waters ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: Mik13

Airworthiness certificates will be recalled - that's all. It will be possible to fly exclusively over the territory of the Russian Federation and international waters ...

And if Russia also withdraws the certificates in response?
And not only in Ukraine ... And for everyone who carries out maintenance and repairs, bypassing Russia.

[Mik13]

Quote: Spade

Quote: Mik13

Airworthiness certificates will be recalled - that's all. It will be possible to fly exclusively over the territory of the Russian Federation and international waters ...

And if Russia also withdraws the certificates in response?
And not only in Ukraine ... And for everyone who carries out maintenance and repairs, bypassing Russia.

Why not, really?
Only military equipment certificate is not needed.
A transport or passenger aircraft of Russian production (to be precise - design bureau in the Russian Federation) - this is only the IL-76. Ukraine uses them, but does not upgrade or repair them on its own. So there are no reasons to revoke certificates this way.

In addition, Ukraine has long scored on its aircraft industry. Antonov Design Bureau is rather dead than alive, everyone understands that they will no longer produce and sell new aircraft. And put their own reputation on them with the device. Unlike Russia, by the way.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Old Partisan

And Ukrainians will not squeeze out these airplanes through some sort of Dutch court?

If you honestly buy an Audi with your hard-earned money, will the Germans squeeze it out of you?

[knn54]

In the title, according to the text, it is necessary to add AND MODERNIZATION.

[gurzuf]

Good news. The Soviet heritage must be protected and it will not fail.

[Thrifty]

Well, the right decision, since you will not have to wait for a replacement for this aircraft in the coming years. And Ilami alone can not be controlled, especially when it comes to the same international assistance.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Thrifty

And only Ilami can not be controlled

in some cases, Ruslans are generally irreplaceable. In particular, it is possible to transport complexes of type S-300/400 only with them

[Andrea]

Once again, it will break the bottom. They have a claim to service all Ruslans as a manufacturer and issue certificates of airworthiness.
And before the Russian Aerospace Forces, the arms are short.

[askort154]

There was an attempt to "arrest" 5 "Ruslans", but it remained an attempt. The Federal Air Transport Agency issued a certificate to the Aviastar plant and the Amtes company, which is part of the Volgo-Dnepr group, for all types of work and full production of An-124, which is located in Ulyanovsk. Ukraine has nothing to do with this.

[orionvitt]

Quote: askort154

all types of work and the full production of the An-124, which is located in Ulyanovsk / Ukraine, has nothing to do with this.

So then it is, And where will D-18 engines be taken?

[askort154]

orionvitt ..So then it is, And where will D-18 engines be taken?

Repair D-18 has already been established in the Urals. And in 2015, a decision was made - in 2019 to launch production for the An-124 NK-32-2 engines. Redo the NK-32, standing on the Tu-160, for installation on the An-124. There is probably still a D-18 reserve, but the NK-32-2 should be on the campaign, or maybe it already is. Information has not yet met.

[Sky strike fighter]

To remotorize An-124 and PAK DA, an engine for 24 tons of thrust is created based on the NK-32-02 technologies.
NK-23D is called. The gas generator seems to be new.

[APASUS]

It looks like the military command is preparing additional capacity for the transfer of goods. Where?

[Lipchanin]

It looks like the military command is preparing additional capacity

Brings order to his household

.Where ?

Where you need it

[LKWUE]

I don’t remember which autobahn in Germany, I drove past the airport so there are two Ruslans, one really without engines.

[LKWUE]

Near Leipzig, at the airport, two are standing on the highway with the Russian flag - one with three engines, the other around the corner without any engines.
Near a pair of Boeing 747 freighters.

[Ros 56]

On kudykina hill, uncle. So everyone reported to you.

[APASUS]

Quote: Ros 56

On kudykina hill, uncle. So everyone reported to you.

I don’t need to report, and so it’s understandable, I don’t carry tomatoes from Turkey. A new conflict is brewing with our participation

[Lipchanin]

Quote: APASUS

To the campaign a new conflict is brewing with our participation

If I started repairs in the apartment, this does not mean that I decided to get married

[askort154]

APASUS .... It looks like the military command is preparing additional capacity for the transfer of goods. Where?

NATO was shocked looking at the exercises in Russia - "Vostok-218".
In just a week, a grouping of 300 thousand "bayonets" and the corresponding weapons were deployed to it, at a distance of 6-7 thousand km.

[Ros 56]

Good luck to the aircraft repair specialists, and let the whiners cry.

[Free wind]

Nobody uses Flightradar 24, the site is like that, it tracks passenger planes, so sometimes there are planes circling over Estonia over Sweden, according to marks almost like Concordes. Maybe someone knows what kind of aircraft these are, maybe the Griffins. Flytradar is typed in English, the search engine shows it literally after 3 letters.

[Birdie]

Quote: Free Wind

Nobody uses Flightradar 24, the site is like that, it tracks passenger planes, so sometimes there are planes circling over Estonia over Sweden, according to marks almost like Concordes. Maybe someone knows what kind of aircraft these are, maybe the Griffins. Flytradar is typed in English, the search engine shows it literally after 3 letters.

Good afternoon! Look at this resource Planeradar.ru, he sees better military sides. I think there you will find the answer to your question

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Bird

Check out this resource Planeradar.ru

Thanks, look. And why are there boards of different colors?

[Birdie]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Bird

Check out this resource Planeradar.ru

Thanks, look. And why are there boards of different colors?

Unfortunately I have no answer to your question Here it’s clearly visible military sides, which is not on the FR24.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Bird

The military sides are clearly visible here.

The military, that says "Route unknown"?

[Birdie]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Bird

The military sides are clearly visible here.

The military, that says "Route unknown"?

They are gray.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Bird

They are gray.

Thank you

[Birdie]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Bird

They are gray.

Thank you

[Lipchanin]

Not against. I give

[At Derebasovskaya]

And on the engine nk 93 nothing at all is not heard?)

[Lamata]

But this is good news. Thanks for that.

[vit670]

50 years have passed since the great country of the USSR was destroyed, and we still use its heritage!

[iouris]

Quote: vit670

and still use her legacy!

Are you a foreigner?

[grandfather_Kostya]

Quote: bayard

do you think the experts stayed there?

I think the specialists stay where there is a stable good income. You cannot glue a good income from semi-smuggled piece deliveries, especially when you have to “hide” everything from “patriots” with their eternal mantra about “Russia is an aggressor country”.

[Hadji Murat]

for there is nothing more to fly

[IL-64]

But how can you do without the manufacturer’s permission? Antonov, it seems, has already stated that it is illegal