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Is the country falling into turmoil?

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The crisis requires centralization. The more severe the crisis (for example, the Civil War or the Great Patriotic War), the stronger the role of the central government in its liquidation. In a normal environment, democracy can be allowed. In the Russian Federation, now everything is happening the other way around. The central government is “self-isolating”, the government “criticizes” instead of clear, purposeful and efficient work, local regional “barons” begin to weird, etc. As a result, the country falls into turmoil.


Disintegration


During a crisis, danger, war, the central government mobilizes the whole people, the country, all having the resources to combat the threat. “Everything for the front! All for victory! ” That is, if there is a real threat of an epidemic, which, in essence, is equivalent to a big war, then the Russian government should have forgotten about constitutional reform, “zeroing” at the beginning of the year and taken the necessary measures. In particular, to create a system of isolation, filtration, detection and treatment of patients. Quickly organize our own production of all necessary medicines, medical equipment, protective equipment, etc. If necessary, create new industries from scratch. Mobilize the health system, take emergency measures to restore it. Connect a system of military medicine, etc.

Also, in the conditions of the collapse of the world economy and the existence model of an “energy power”, it is necessary to solve the problem of providing the population with basic necessities, food. That is, it is necessary to restore our own production as soon as possible, to switch to the autarky model.

What do we see in reality? At first they blinked their eyes while they fought the virus in China. Then they connected to the panic that began in the West (in Europe and the USA). The supreme authority has relieved itself of responsibility. An absurd “self-isolation” has been introduced. As a result, the country began to experience economic and transport collapse amid defeat in the gas and oil war.

It turned out that Putin’s RF is not able to filter and isolate several hundred (thousand) patients. The primary health care system in the country during the period of “raising Russia from its knees” was destroyed (“optimized”). If in the days of the USSR in the RSFSR-Russia there were 12 thousand hospitals and polyclinics, now now more than half! If before there were 5 thousand district hospitals, now it is less than 500! Medical staff "optimized"! The country lacks about 200 thousand people in the healthcare system! In Russia there is no full-fledged production of medicines, raw materials and equipment. Even the simplest masks are bought abroad.

We see how the authorities are engaged in self-destruction, finishing off the remnants of production and the country's connectivity. The authorities promise measures to protect ordinary people, workers, as well as small and medium-sized businesses. But in fact? The central bank allows all banks to take loans from debtors. No easing of monetary policy, lowering the key rate. No credit breaks. No freezing on utility bills. No emergency mode, that is, wages must be paid to employees by employers, but the enterprises were closed. The threat of crop failure has been created. Given the weather anomalies, very low rainfall in the winter of 2019–2020. there is a threat of drought and crop failure. Governors are trying, block roads, disrupt communication between settlements, and introduce a quarantine regime. Ahead of all are Moscow, Petersburg, Chechnya and Tatarstan. A picture is emerging of the growing influence of regional authorities, the “barons," and from there it is not far from regional and national separatism.

External and internal isolation leads to the destruction of the economy, private enterprise, management and society. It leads to the appearance of a large number of unemployed, the poor quickly turn into beggars. The people are rapidly growing hatred of the "new bourgeois." Crime is growing. Social protest is ripening. The Kremlin, evading responsibility, delegating authority to the regions, is digging a hole all over the country with its own hands. The state-administrative disruption, disintegration begins. Moscow and Tatarstan demonstrate elements of a "digital concentration camp", embitter the people. Other places show local management decisions. So, in the Arkhangelsk region to local residents allowed drive to summer cottages and chop wood during self-isolation. And can you breathe without a piece of paper?

What to do next


Now the Kremlin, copying the actions of the West, itself drives the country and people into a catastrophe. Troubles. An exit in autocratic, independent politics from the West, world financial institutions and financial capital. The nationalization of the financial system, the nationalization of land, subsoil, waters, forests and strategic enterprises are necessary. And for this, we need ideology, high goals and a program for the long-term development of the country and society. The creation of such state institutions that will serve not the interests of world capital and the oligarchy, but will be engaged in the development of the state and the increase in the well-being of the people. New industrialization, development of own industrial production and agriculture. State planning. The combination of the public sector and private enterprise.

The current global crisis of crisis, which will inevitably lead to a number of new brutal local and regional conflicts and wars, is a “window of opportunity” for rebuilding Great Russia from scratch with a tremendous backlog in the form of the Russian superethnos, Russian language, culture and stories, the enormous wealth of the Russian land (land, forests, water and bowels) and previous experience in building great powers.
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  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy April 7 2020 07: 47 New
    27
    The country is falling into turmoil
    Do not wait! angry
    1. DMB 75
      DMB 75 April 7 2020 07: 55 New
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      I join the donut hole to them all, and not the collapse of Russia. The example of the Union showed this clearly.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 April 7 2020 08: 00 New
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        In the Russian Federation, now everything is happening the other way around. Central authority "self-isolated"

        Self insulated. Without masks, without money ... everyone survives as best he can. Someone in a yellow spacesuit is PR, but someone in the workplace cannot get a mask. Provided that she is still this work.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog April 7 2020 08: 05 New
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          Quote: Stas157
          Self insulated. Without masks, without money ... everyone survives as best he can.

          This is the policy of the state .. the state is self-isolated from the people .. people are now on their own and survive as they can .. Not the state but the IP, OJSC, cooperative in general ..
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 April 7 2020 08: 19 New
            52
            In addition to supporting the population (which did not exist), the authorities in a pandemic were obliged to do two basic things:

            - Provide testing, which means real, not fig, statistics. Know who to treat.
            - Provide the population with protection against coronavirus.

            Neither one nor the other was done. As a result, Russia shows rainbow statistics on coronavirus along with other countries, where testing is also disgusting. And there are not enough elementary masks and respirators even to medical personnel. Against this background, strange aid from Russia to other countries is being promoted. In the current situation, the actions of the authorities can hardly be called adequate.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog April 7 2020 08: 45 New
              +3
              Quote: Stas157
              - Provide testing, which means real, not fig, statistics. Know who to treat.

              Testing has already begun in Moscow .. BUT the test costs 1200 r .. Any whim for your money ..
              1. dirk182
                dirk182 April 7 2020 09: 03 New
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                it if he took the initiative! As prescribed by the doctor, the test is done for free.
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day April 7 2020 14: 42 New
                  12
                  Quote: dirk182
                  As prescribed by the doctor, the test is done for free.

                  where is it so? I just wanted to test in my hospital, they refused, there are no tests. When everyone got in, they immediately did the tests. Free, I confirm request
                  1. dirk182
                    dirk182 April 7 2020 15: 56 New
                    +2
                    Ivanovo region
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                3. Oleg Zorin
                  Oleg Zorin April 7 2020 17: 15 New
                  +4
                  By order, the test is done to people over 65 years old with signs of acute respiratory viral infections, contact and returned from epidemically unfavorable areas. All. The order of the Ministry of Health is in the public domain, it is unclassified.
                  1. Oleg Zorin
                    Oleg Zorin April 7 2020 17: 17 New
                    +2
                    I forgot about pneumonia. Pneumonia is also an indication for testing
                  2. smphantom
                    smphantom April 7 2020 20: 38 New
                    +1
                    Without an "order", the same hysterical person comes three times a day, who either sneezed or coughed ...
              2. Stas157
                Stas157 April 7 2020 09: 09 New
                18

                From March 26 in Moscow, they began taking tests for coronavirus infection from everyone. The service is paid.

                Tests for coronavirus in Moscow and Moscow region are still only two clinics - “Hemotest” and “Helix”.

                This is only Moscow and the Moscow region. And only two clinics. And the rest of the country doesn’t count?

                Interestingly, smears can be passed for a fee in any city, but only according to the doctor’s testimony. On a personal initiative, no.

                My brother's wife works in a private clinic as a pediatrician. I got sick with acute respiratory infections, I wanted to do a paid analysis at home. They refused! The order of the Ministry of Health - tests only if indicated (pneumonia). But there are also sluggish forms. Especially among young people!
                1. Campanella
                  Campanella April 7 2020 12: 15 New
                  11
                  The order of the Ministry of Health does not concern deputies; everyone does this for free.
                  1. Chervonny
                    Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 09 New
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                    Quote: Campanella
                    The order of the Ministry of Health does not concern deputies; everyone does this for free.

                    They are the "color of the nation", the "elite" of the people, tree-sticks ...
                    1. Deck
                      Deck April 8 2020 06: 54 New
                      +4
                      The steady increase in the well-being of the people.
                      “Our country, our Constitution, our decision!”

                      The number of dollar billionaires in Russia

                      2000: 0
                      2001: 8
                      2002: 7
                      2003: 17
                      2004: 25
                      2005: 30
                      2006: 44
                      2007: 60
                      2008: 87
                      2009: 32
                      2010: 62
                      2011: 101
                      2012: 96
                      2013: 110
                      2014: 111
                      2015: 88
                      2016: 77
                      2017: 96
                      2018: 106
                      2019: 100
                      2020: 102

                      According to Forbes
                      1. user1212
                        user1212 April 8 2020 16: 47 New
                        +3
                        Zero in 2000? Why lie then. Khodorkovsky, Berezovsky, Gusinsky, Fridman, Potanin, Aven, Smolensky, Vinogradov, Malkin, Abramovich, Sterligov ... I don’t remember any "Mavrodi" yet. Many, of course, sank in 1998, but many had +/- $ billion
                2. flicker
                  flicker April 7 2020 18: 10 New
                  -5
                  The brother has a wife in privately owned the clinic works as a pediatrician

                  You don’t seem to be infected.
                  Probably due to self-isolation. No?
              3. stalki
                stalki April 7 2020 09: 59 New
                +6
                Testing has already begun in Moscow .. BUT the test costs 1200 r .. Any whim for your money ..
                In general, they are already deciding how to enter into OMS.
                1. Overlock
                  Overlock April 7 2020 10: 39 New
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                  Quote: stalki
                  In general, they are already deciding how to enter into OMS.

                  decide when the epidemic will end?
                  1. smart ass
                    smart ass April 7 2020 12: 46 New
                    +8
                    The last infected will be buried and solved.
            2. Igor K
              Igor K April 7 2020 09: 29 New
              +4
              I agree with you entirely.
            3. stalki
              stalki April 7 2020 10: 10 New
              -25
              Neither one nor the other was done. As a result, Russia shows rainbow statistics on coronavirus along with other countries, where testing is also disgusting. And there are not enough elementary masks and respirators even to medical personnel. Against this background, strange aid from Russia to other countries is being promoted. In the current situation, the actions of the authorities can hardly be called adequate.
              In our country, everything is more or less adequate, and no one in the world would have enough funds to provide for everyone. You don't fantasize utopias here, another whiner. I see there have been divorced lately, groaning and bile-producing. Every day on VO, hysteria in the comments and the shaking of words into styles is all gone, let's destroy everything, and then ... Let's throw your minuses, they are already like a balm to my soul. It's like rinsing buckwheat, pouring it in some water, shaking it and oops, all the garbage floats up, then you drain it and the beauty is clean. So it is during various emergency situations, disasters and epidemics. Shake, emerge and you just have to remember to drain the "husk". laughing
              1. Bashkirkhan
                Bashkirkhan April 7 2020 10: 26 New
                -10
                Quote: stalki
                Whatever the day, the hysteria in the comments and the concussion of words in styles all disappeared, let's destroy everything, and then ...

                Here on the site before the platoon of inadequate personalities and outright trolls. They carry frank delirium and lies. There is no point in discussing with them. One and the same person, the same negative comments.
                1. Ilya-spb
                  Ilya-spb April 7 2020 10: 55 New
                  -33
                  Support!

                  And the Troubles are waiting. Whoosh!
                  1. smart ass
                    smart ass April 7 2020 12: 48 New
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                    Duck is who is to blame for the turmoil !? Haters are damned!
                  2. pin_code
                    pin_code April 8 2020 07: 25 New
                    0
                    forgot to shout to the cheers and the government, the party that everyone hates and the government that does not change. no one to replace. there are 145 lyam people in the country, and there is no one to replace ... horror, which are DEFECTIVE
                    1. Kazbek
                      Kazbek April 8 2020 21: 33 New
                      -1
                      Listen, wait, the government has changed! Wipe your glasses filled with insanity !!! And get back to your censor!
                2. Chervonny
                  Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 11 New
                  11
                  Quote: Bashkirkhan
                  Here on the site before the platoon of inadequate personalities and outright trolls.

                  Quote: Ilya-spb
                  Support!

                  And the Troubles are waiting. Whoosh!

                  These are just two such inadequate personalities that have shown themselves.
                  You are waiting for the troubles. You always talk about her.
                  1. Ilya-spb
                    Ilya-spb April 7 2020 18: 50 New
                    0
                    You, sir, are engaged in a substitution of concepts. And manipulations.
                3. azkolt
                  azkolt April 7 2020 18: 31 New
                  +5
                  Offend, people work here, not trolls. That's what a change of term means!))))
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              2. R-140
                R-140 April 7 2020 12: 34 New
                -15
                I agree with you one hundred percent! Recently, some whiners divorced. It is disgusting to read their nonsense.
                1. Chervonny
                  Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 12 New
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                  Quote: R-140
                  It is disgusting to read their nonsense.

                  Do not read, no one forces you much.
                2. Revival
                  Revival April 7 2020 17: 30 New
                  +1
                  It is disgusting to read about the lack of help to people in our country, against the background of the help that it gives out to ordinary people, for example, in Germany and the United States
              3. Chervonny
                Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 10 New
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                Quote: stalki
                and no one in the world would have enough money to provide everyone

                And what do we care about the whole world?
                Quote: stalki
                Shake, emerge and you just have to remember to drain the "husk".

                Well, you surfaced.
                1. stalki
                  stalki April 7 2020 14: 56 New
                  -11
                  Well, you surfaced
                  Ah ah ah, have you been picking your nose for a long time? Do not forget to wrap the shorts. Yes, and with serious uncles you don’t need to talk here, you won’t understand everything at all.
              4. New Year day
                New Year day April 7 2020 14: 44 New
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                Quote: stalki
                Just with us everything is more or less adequate

                It’s a pity you can’t show you a video about 1 day in the reception department. You can go there yourself
                1. stalki
                  stalki April 7 2020 15: 05 New
                  +2
                  It’s a pity you can’t show you a video about 1 day in the reception department. You can go there yourself
                  You are a doctor? In all seriousness, thanks for being at the forefront. I can only wish you strength and patience. Could have helped, would have helped, but unfortunately not your colleague. Always and everywhere in difficult situations there are those who work in silence, and there are those who engage in alarmism. I am sure you are not an alarmist. But we got a lot of them divorced. Stalin is not enough. Ready to take more cons.
                  1. Ilya-spb
                    Ilya-spb April 7 2020 18: 55 New
                    +6
                    Unfortunately, we didn’t get alarmists, no. Although there are enough of them. An alarmist often acts in a state of affect, fright ...

                    We've got professional trolls divorced. And the professionals who form the negative. And, it's scary to say, but some "negativists" get paid for their work.
                    1. flicker
                      flicker April 7 2020 20: 20 New
                      0
                      And, it's scary to say, but some "negativists" get paid for their work.

                      Nothing, soon they will surrender their financial backers. Or financial patrons will merge their little clerks if it turns out that the babosy were wasted. bully
                2. flicker
                  flicker April 7 2020 18: 04 New
                  -5
                  sorry you can’t show you the movie about 1 day in the reception

                  Well, to be honest - you're not a doctor.
                  You are most likely an ambulance driver
              5. intuzazist
                intuzazist April 7 2020 16: 35 New
                +4
                And I'll put you + ...
              6. Revival
                Revival April 7 2020 17: 31 New
                +1
                Breakthrough Jerk ..
                Laws do not allow "husk" to merge
              7. Ivan Semenov
                Ivan Semenov April 8 2020 10: 39 New
                +2
                Quote: stalki
                divorced lately wailing and bile producing

                This is their kind of sport, which is not a burden, but a pleasure. Who whines more believably.
              8. Kazbek
                Kazbek April 8 2020 21: 32 New
                +2
                Funny crap on the site is going on! laughing As soon as one adequate comment, so 26 minuses! It seems that I went to the censor! Some aching monkeys and provocateurs! It's time to check in for a foreign agency!
                Brother, you need support from an adequate citizen of Russia !!!
            4. Roman123567
              Roman123567 April 7 2020 12: 05 New
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              if there is a real threat of an epidemic, which, in essence, is equated to a big war, then the Russian government should have forgotten about constitutional reform, “zeroing out” at the beginning of the year and taken the necessary measures.


              My opinion is that everything was perfectly calculated in the Kremlin ..
              All these reforms and the zeroing of the order annoyed the people .. even the ardent Zaputinians were unhappy with what was happening ..
              And here we lock the disgruntled people at home and without work ..
              And when a month later all the joyful ones run out to their places .. it will be boring to complain about the amendments again .. everyone will be glad that at least the "virus" has won ..
              Take away from the person everything that was, then return half ... and he will be satisfied .. It is the same in this situation !!
              1. polita4er
                polita4er April 7 2020 12: 19 New
                +8
                Quote: Roman123567
                here we lock disgruntled people at home and without work ..
                And when a month later all the joyful ones run out to their places .. it will be boring to complain about the amendments again .. everyone will be glad that at least the "virus" has won ..
                Take away from the person everything that was, then return half ... and he will be pleased ..


                In the circus, this is called "ripping" ....
              2. Chervonny
                Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 12 New
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                Quote: Roman123567
                everyone will be glad that at least the "virus" has won ..

                There is an epidemic. And probably other ways to defeat her is not possible.
                As for the rest, then here you are most likely right.
                1. Roman123567
                  Roman123567 April 7 2020 14: 28 New
                  +3
                  I think the scale of the "epidemic" is greatly inflated ..
                  For even Italians admitted that they record in statistics all those who have a virus in their blood after death ..
                  But it can be discovered by anyone .. but not the fact that a person will die .. 80% do not even know that they have been ill .. But if you die from a tube, they will do a test and include it in the statistics of those who died from HF ..
                  1. Oleg Zorin
                    Oleg Zorin April 7 2020 17: 21 New
                    +3
                    I think that the scale is greatly understated. No, not out of wickedness, simply no one has the resources to conduct universal testing.
                  2. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
                    Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) April 9 2020 23: 07 New
                    0
                    > I think
                    judging by the further text, this is a rather rash statement
              3. New Year day
                New Year day April 7 2020 14: 46 New
                +7
                Quote: Roman123567
                My opinion is that everything was perfectly calculated in the Kremlin ..

                wrong, just the opposite. If they had counted, then the bed fund would have been ready a month ago, but they will reformat it in a hurry, and there were no madhouse tests
              4. makarick
                makarick April 7 2020 18: 15 New
                +7
                Maybe you're right, but ... I'm a doctor, I live in Uzbekistan, we have the same situation. Everyone is sitting at home. Everything is VERY not clear. This is not the machinations of the Kremlin, but something else. Virtually no information, only summaries. Wild fines for everything. Who got sick? Age? Accompanying illnesses? This is called a business report. Measures? In addition to total bans. From other countries exported throughout the republic, why? Previously, in the civil defense exercises, hospitals were deployed in two days ...
            5. Vadim237
              Vadim237 April 7 2020 12: 37 New
              +5
              There is no point in mass testing, since you can catch both at the entrance to the queue and at the exit by grabbing the handrail; every day, you won’t run into tesa. First of all, it is necessary to do testing for those who are at the forefront - visitors from other countries.
              1. New Year day
                New Year day April 7 2020 14: 50 New
                +4
                Quote: Vadim237
                There is no point in mass testing, since you can catch both at the entrance to the queue and at the exit by grabbing the handrail; every day, you won’t run into tesa. First of all, it is necessary to do testing for those who are at the forefront - visitors from other countries.

                the whole country has long been at the forefront. Visitors had to be tested when they arrived / arrived. It is late now. Almost all patients haven’t gone anywhere.
                And you really don’t need to test! laughing I passed the test, I’m healthy, I went to the store, I got infected! The logic is oak, impenetrable. That's just how to identify 80% with a mild course, how to predict a more severe course? Probably need to give out all the thermometers! laughing
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 April 7 2020 19: 25 New
                  +3
                  And when you arrived, did you have any tests at all?
                2. eskulap
                  eskulap April 8 2020 01: 44 New
                  +1
                  That's right here comes Bill Gates / Skvortsova with his test systems with skin controllers, vaccines with antibodies to epitopes and all kinds of immune passports - long live vaccination and chipization, and whoever doesn’t have a flamethrower
              2. Oleg Zorin
                Oleg Zorin April 7 2020 17: 23 New
                +4
                It makes sense in spot polls. For example, a sample of students from the school of conditional Uryupinsk. This will give an idea of ​​the prevalence in the population. And without exception, all the inhabitants of the country - no one will have enough resources for this.
            6. Chervonny
              Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 08 New
              +9
              Quote: Stas157
              Against this background, strange aid from Russia to other countries is being promoted. In the current situation, the actions of the authorities can hardly be called adequate.

              PR is very beneficial to the authorities. Against the background of PR, they are trying to create a feeling among the people that everything is under control, and everything is fine with us. But PR managers forget that the people have eyes and the people see everything that is really happening in our country, not only with the pandemic, but also with the economy.
              1. dauria
                dauria April 8 2020 00: 05 New
                +4
                But PR people forget that the people have eyes and the people see everything, what really happens in our country

                What's going on ? There is electricity, gas too. The batteries are hot. Garbage is taken out.
                You can call an ambulance, firefighters, police. They will come. The mobile phone works, the Internet is, the telly shows. So the state has not gone anywhere.
                I love anarchists, especially when they have appendicitis. Here they do not shout "down with the state" laughing
                Wait a couple of months with "criticism", people are working. Whether it is good or bad - but do not interfere now. Then whine like "everything is bad."
                1. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 April 8 2020 06: 36 New
                  +4
                  Quote: dauria
                  What's going on ? There is electricity, gas too. The batteries are hot. Garbage is taken out.

                  A few days before the introduction of self-isolation, they tried to explain to me that we had a terrible crisis (not because of the virus, but in general). But when I asked to say what exactly this is expressed, it turned out that they could not say anything except "everyone knows".
            7. Podvodnik
              Podvodnik April 7 2020 15: 29 New
              +4
              power in a pandemic was obliged to do two basic things:

              In the current situation, the actions of the authorities can hardly be called adequate.


              The fact of the matter is that some actions look like "a finger to the sky" or "fortune telling on the coffee grounds".

              Any action, even one single one, must be adequate, logical, reasonable and calculated. All consequences are calculated and minimized. And what (and who) is needed for this? The answer is simple: material resources and specialists. And what is absolutely unacceptable? Equally clear are the loyal sycophants. Well, who is "in the stream" now?
            8. vlad106
              vlad106 April 8 2020 23: 28 New
              0
              two basic things:

              - Provide testing, which means real, not fig, statistics. Know who to treat.
              - Provide the population with protection against coronavirus.

              Neither one nor the other was done. As a result, Russia shows rainbow statistics on coronavirus along with other countries, where testing is also disgusting. And there are not enough elementary masks and respirators even to medical personnel.
              _____________________________________________________
              Mess!
              Factories are not being restored
              Industry killed.
              unable to provide themselves with protection and treatment ...
              what kind of power?
          2. IL-18
            IL-18 April 7 2020 08: 31 New
            +9
            Quote: Svarog
            IP, OJSC, cooperative in general ..

            This is how we are a great power. Therefore, it is appropriate to use the term "corporation".
          3. Lannan Shi
            Lannan Shi April 7 2020 08: 35 New
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            Quote: Svarog
            This is the policy of the state .. the state is self-isolated from the people .. people are now on their own and survive as they can ..

            Well, here you are not quite right.
            The Russian government will restrict the import of cheap fuel to protect the domestic market. The Ministry of Energy made such a proposal and the profile Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov supported it, RBC reports citing a source. According to him, in the near future there will be an oral order, which will later be fixed with documents. The restriction on the import of gasoline is planned until September 2020.

            The state was not self-isolated at all. It plows with might and main. Leaving many millions without work, carefully squeezes their pockets.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog April 7 2020 08: 47 New
              +8
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              Well, here you are not quite right.

              Indeed .. they also actively harm their population ..
            2. 210ox
              210ox April 7 2020 09: 26 New
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              I am not at all enthusiastic about our leaders. But! I judge by the example of my Beloglinsky district. Businesses work. The hairdressers (they really already plow at home with all their might) suffered sports and leisure facilities. Breweries work .. Karl! This is amazing. And I see a positive point in the fact that our problems have been exposed. And now let's see how those who are above will decide all this. I mean the production and organization of what is vital. I think that we will all draw conclusions and finally begin to go to the polls. That power we want or do not want to see.
              1. Lannan Shi
                Lannan Shi April 7 2020 09: 58 New
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                Quote: 210ox
                And now let's see how those who are above will decide all this.

                Don’t you see yet? So she quoted. The oil business must bloom and smell, at least a crisis in the yard, at least an epidemic. Well, you can study the list of supported companies. The oil industry and other diggers of delicious foods from the bowels, well, and others especially close. So can you explain to me in detail how the virus threatens the poultry farm? Hens do not seem to be very sick. Or how will Mosoblgaz suffer? Communal payments have not been canceled. Thunder, that is, a magnet, was not closed either. And the company from Cyprus, gurgling with alcohol in the Central Federal District, definitely needs state support? And without a fixed price, the country's economy will definitely collapse? And why is this price better than the neighboring store? So that has a paw where necessary? Is the Ikea owned by the Dutch more important to the country than thousands of Russian hairdressers? And how sideways did the compasses working on the Internet get on the list? Is the Internet self-isolated too? And generally speaking. How did foreign companies appear on this list? Are you sure that the survival of our economy depends on the well-being of different Cypriots?
                You will learn a little list. There, in black and in Russian it is indicated, a convenient opportunity for state money to be poured into a private pocket. What the government did. With a joyful screech. Well, for hairdressers and other hotel administrators ... There is no bread for you, and never will be, everyone is in a good mood.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 April 7 2020 10: 33 New
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                  Quote: Lannan Shi
                  The oil business must bloom and smell, at least a crisis in the yard, at least an epidemic

                  And it blooms in a greenhouse carefully guarded by the state.
                  The Russian government will introduce a ban on the import of cheap gasoline
                  The measure is temporary and so far calculated until September 2020 - that is, for the entire period during which, according to the forecasts of the Ministry of Energy, oil prices will stay low, the interlocutor concludes. An import ban will be introduced in order to to protect the market from cheap fuel, explains one of the sources
                  1. Chervonny
                    Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 13 New
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                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    And it blooms in a greenhouse carefully guarded by the state.

                    Still would. There are practically no other incomes except oil and gas.
                    This is not Soviet power, but capitalist.
                    1. Vadim237
                      Vadim237 April 7 2020 19: 40 New
                      +4
                      Russia's non-oil exports for 2019 amounted to $ 160 billion; the share of the oil and gas sector amounted to 19% of GDP; oil and gas budget revenues accounted for 25% So, for a long time now we have been living in a single oil and gas industry.
                      1. 210ox
                        210ox April 8 2020 06: 56 New
                        0
                        Not less than 40%. I judge the transshipment of goods through the ports of the Krasnodar Territory.
                    2. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 April 7 2020 23: 17 New
                      +4
                      Quote: Red
                      This is not Soviet power, but capitalist

                      This is not even about capitalism. We have oligarchic feudalism.
                2. 210ox
                  210ox April 7 2020 11: 44 New
                  15
                  I see beautifully. And I hate at and near the Kremlin no less than yours. But what do you suggest? Suggest something specific, what to do with this outrage? With the support of fonbets and similar state desks. I don’t see legal ways except for the electoral system. But there are scammers sitting there. I don’t know about the poultry of the factory, pig farms work for us. But Thunder did not please? This is a store system.
                  1. Lannan Shi
                    Lannan Shi April 7 2020 12: 05 New
                    12
                    Quote: 210ox
                    Suggest something specific, what to do with this outrage?

                    In the meantime, nothing. So far, only to convince. While at least 50 percent are not clearly aware that the Kremlin is not just some kind of a little bad people dug in, but the real enemies of the country, only to clarify.
                3. dva36
                  dva36 April 7 2020 11: 54 New
                  12
                  You forgot to add a bookmaker from this list. You certainly cannot live without it.
                4. Alexander Grizodub
                  Alexander Grizodub April 7 2020 13: 37 New
                  +5
                  What can’t be stopped, they didn’t stop him. Continuous-cycle enterprises, grocery stores, generating stations, emergency services, medical facilities ... But you can go unshaven for a week, you can also live without a manicure and a pub. We stopped Volkswagen and Peugeot, and other engineering enterprises whose products do not critically affect the provision of the population in this situation. I still don’t understand what you are proposing: to close everything, including food shops, or, on the contrary, to open everything? Or just wanted to hysteria in public?
                  1. Lannan Shi
                    Lannan Shi April 7 2020 15: 24 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Alexander Grizodub
                    What can’t be stopped, they didn’t stop him. Continuous-cycle enterprises, grocery stores, generating stations, emergency services, medical facilities ..

                    Laponka ... About what it is impossible to stop, and what is climbing, I do not need to tell, but to the archangel Michael. Is he like standing at the gates of paradise? Quarantine does not work like that. Doesn't work at all. Quarantine is when everyone, absolutely everyone sits in holes, electricity and water supply are in a barracks position, and behind the doors of apartments and houses there is only a centralized delivery of rations. Well, also patrols with funeral teams. The former shoot their nose out on the street, and the latter clean up after the former. This is quarantine. And there are no other quarantines. And we don’t have it, we have pornography. When there is no interference with the spread of the virus, and the economy is killed.,
                5. Pax tecum
                  Pax tecum April 7 2020 15: 28 New
                  +7
                  How did the gambling business appear on the list of backbone enterprises in Russia?

                  The government commission on enhancing the sustainability of the Russian economy has reviewed and approved a new list of systemically important organizations whose financial condition in the face of a collapse in oil prices and coronavirus pandemics will monitor and, if necessary, consider providing support.

                  The popular Russian journalist Andrei Karaulov expressed his opinion on this issue on his Official Channel.
                  "The Russian government has approved a list of state support for the main backbone enterprises. The list includes American, Turkish, Finnish, and Swiss companies. There are no Russian factories, no villages, no peasants on this list of ruble support ... But there are guests of our country, foreign companies working The most interesting thing is that there are underwear stores, cosmetics stores ... Under No. 76 there was a gambling business - the company "FON", ... ", - the journalist wonders.
                  More details in the video.
                6. Podvodnik
                  Podvodnik April 7 2020 15: 33 New
                  +4
                  There is no bread for you, and never will be; everyone is in a good mood.


                  I agree, unfortunately.

                  From myself I’ll add: all health and do not cough.
                7. DED_peer_DED
                  DED_peer_DED April 8 2020 13: 18 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Lannan Shi
                  There is no bread for you, and never will be; everyone is in a good mood.

                  We have in the Kuban quarantined the most madhouse madhouse of all regions.
                  Quarantine was introduced in violation of the laws. Sowing breaks down, transport slows down, cordons everywhere. And this is against the background of dry winter and dry spring, the earth is cracking. Do you feel ...?
                  Soon we will be in a cartoon, we will wash our hands (hygiene) - and there will be nothing to eat.
              2. for
                for April 7 2020 10: 32 New
                +6
                Quote: 210ox
                And I see a positive point in the fact that our problems have been exposed

                As always, we see no problems without tragedy.
                1. Podvodnik
                  Podvodnik April 7 2020 15: 36 New
                  +5
                  As always, we see no problems without tragedy.


                  Ancestors were aware of:
                  "Until the thunder strikes, the man will not cross himself"
              3. Campanella
                Campanella April 7 2020 12: 21 New
                +6
                What's the use of going to the polls? There is no one to vote for. And there is no transparency, they can write any numbers. It is like a referendum. According to the law, he is, and it is unrealistic for the people to hold it only if the authorities initiate it.
            3. Vadim237
              Vadim237 April 7 2020 12: 42 New
              -3
              Thanks to a light hand movement, this cheap fuel brought from outside to the domestic market will cost the same as local but slightly cheaper - none of the owners of gas stations will refuse high profits.
          4. Gene84
            Gene84 April 7 2020 09: 26 New
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            Quote: Svarog
            Not the state, but IP, OJSC, cooperative in general

            Colleague, this can be summed up in one simple word "flea market".
          5. Chervonny
            Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 08 New
            20
            Quote: Svarog
            This is state policy.

            This is not state policy. This is the lack of a coherent and dignified domestic policy of the ruling power.
          6. Pax tecum
            Pax tecum April 7 2020 15: 06 New
            11
            .
            At first they blinked their eyes while they fought the virus in China. Then they connected to the panic that began in the West (in Europe and the USA). The supreme authority has relieved itself of responsibility ...


            Where is the personal responsibility of grief reformers and optimizers?
            The same faces are partying ...
            Even at the highest level, failures are officially recognized, and then what?
          7. Dynamic systems
            Dynamic systems April 7 2020 16: 26 New
            -1
            I would suggest - organized crime groups
          8. evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru
            evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru April 8 2020 20: 52 New
            +1
            Not a ,, cooperative ,,, respected Svarog ... Rather, the Department ,, Rusland ,, TNC ,, Global Intetation ,,. The department successfully, efficiently and with minimal costs works for the benefit of globalists. In appearance a bold and independent department head? Tolerate. He has such an image. Just think ... if only, on the whole, I didn’t deviate from the route to the bright capitalist tomorrow. A fabulous profit is brought by the department, to the masters of the world ,,? Brings. What else do they need?
            And their chubby cheeks shine and joyfully shine their, pig’s eyes
        2. KirovMK2
          KirovMK2 April 7 2020 08: 27 New
          -10
          Why do you need a mask? You are a doctor?
          1. Obi-Wan Kenobi
            Obi-Wan Kenobi April 7 2020 08: 36 New
            +8
            Why do you need a mask? You are a doctor?

            In the sense of "why"?
            Just woke up?
            Do you at least watch the news or what?
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                2. Alexander Grizodub
                  Alexander Grizodub April 7 2020 13: 42 New
                  +1
                  And where are they sold? You definitely do not have this product.
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              1. New Year day
                New Year day April 7 2020 14: 54 New
                +8
                Quote: Rakovor
                A WHO spokesman said that masks are not needed for healthy people, only for patients and medical staff.

                it remains only to understand who is HEALTH and who is SICK? Indeed, 80% with COVID-19 have no clinical symptoms or it is not expressed. YOU drank beer with a neighbor who did not cough, and after 3 three he already had ventilation laughing And you begin to remember whether there was a mask on you request But she was gone! What will you do?
                1. Rakovor
                  Rakovor April 8 2020 13: 08 New
                  +1
                  I will not do anything, I will be ill and will continue to live.
              2. Oleg Zorin
                Oleg Zorin April 7 2020 17: 40 New
                +5
                First, learn to say "you" to people. This can be very useful in later life. Secondly, WHO has already pereobulsya on this issue - I do not give references on purpose, if you please work yourself, it will be useful for you. Third, to be rude, knowing in advance that you will not be asked - goat behavior.
                1. Rakovor
                  Rakovor April 8 2020 13: 10 New
                  0
                  Goaty behavior is stupid to believe everything that the official media pours on us from the box.
          2. Stas157
            Stas157 April 7 2020 08: 44 New
            +6
            Quote: KirovMK2
            Why do you need a mask? You are a doctor?

            Not a doctor, but not a corpse (corpses do not need masks).
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 April 7 2020 12: 44 New
              -9
              The corpses need sarafans - and now they are also in short supply.
          3. Gene84
            Gene84 April 7 2020 09: 33 New
            36
            That is, people do not need basic means of protection against infection? Maybe you shouldn’t wash your hands? Maybe hygiene is not needed?
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 April 7 2020 12: 47 New
              -5
              Everyone can make a mask for himself - everyone is not so armless, instead of an antiseptic, hydrogen peroxide or vodka will come down to the worst of ferry or dilute soap in water.
              1. Sergey39
                Sergey39 April 7 2020 13: 19 New
                -10
                Duck etozh hands need to move. They are all easier. Got it - and you're on the silver platter. And if not, then everything is for revolution! On the sofa.
                1. flicker
                  flicker April 7 2020 15: 09 New
                  -8
                  And if not, then everything is for revolution! On the sofa
                  Yeah, flocks of grantosos horny laughing
                2. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 April 7 2020 19: 44 New
                  0
                  They have on the revolution of sofas only ticks and bugs will come out for a demonstration.
              2. flicker
                flicker April 7 2020 15: 22 New
                -14
                Everyone can make a mask for himself - all are not so armless
                Yes, they are all masked, they are all on paid self-isolation - just Russophobia rushing out of them.
                These anti-Putin (and, by and large, anti-Russian) waves began after the change of government and the introduction of AMENDMENTS to strengthen the sovereignty of the country.
                The restrained part of the elite (realizing that their time is running out) launched (through the corrupt scribes) waves of so-called "popular" indignations.
                By summer, these "waves" will not leave a wet place bully
            2. Roman123567
              Roman123567 April 7 2020 13: 40 New
              -5
              Have you been masked all your life ??
              Little lies everywhere .. wash, even to the holes ..
              1. Chervonny
                Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 15 New
                14
                Quote: Roman123567
                Have you been masked all your life ??

                You go without a mask, and already noticeably ...
                1. Roman123567
                  Roman123567 April 7 2020 14: 29 New
                  -4
                  I did not deny this ..))
        3. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 April 7 2020 08: 37 New
          10
          you really got tired with these masks ... all doctors unanimously say that the masks do not work. it's just a piece of tissue on the face. they are only useful if you are ill and do not want to infect others.
          1. Crystal of Truth
            Crystal of Truth April 7 2020 08: 39 New
            +7
            You tell the police when they stop you
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 April 7 2020 08: 55 New
              17
              not going to. we are not digging. Rospotrebnadzor recommends wearing medical masks in public transport and places of mass gathering of people, and while you are on the street, you can refuse them. "The mask is appropriate if you are in a place of mass gathering of people, in public transport, as well as when caring for the sick, but it It is inappropriate outdoors. When you are outdoors, it is useful to breathe fresh air and you should not wear a mask, "says the recommendations on the prevention of influenza and coronavirus infection, published by the press service of the department.
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich April 7 2020 10: 01 New
                14
                Quote: carstorm 11
                Rospotrebnadzor recommends wearing medical masks in transport and crowded placeswhile staying on the street you can refuse them.

                Absolutely agree! Still, while communicating with people (with the same)

                And EVERYTHING should be worn: if EVERYTHING is worn, then nobody will infect anyone!

                My wife found masks for the whole family (2 each), as well as daughter-in-law, we use, as you said, then - in boiling water, household soap and sun.

                I drive food to several old people (not relatives) who do not go to the shops themselves.

                We must somehow help each other, the state will not be able to do everything.
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 April 7 2020 10: 16 New
                  -7
                  I don’t use them at all. I don’t see the point. I’m wearing gloves. that would not drag.
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich April 7 2020 10: 59 New
                    +7
                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    I don’t use them at all. I don’t see the point. I’m wearing gloves. that would not drag.

                    But what about - transport and crowded places?
                    There, in my opinion, it is necessary.

                    Although he himself, since the beginning of the emergency with us, since March 17, I only travel by car and bicycle
                    1. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 April 7 2020 14: 13 New
                      +2
                      exactly. I limited public places to the maximum and travel only in the car.
                2. Roman123567
                  Roman123567 April 7 2020 13: 44 New
                  -8
                  And EVERYTHING needs to be worn: if EVERYTHING is worn, then no one will infect anyone!
                  And still lock yourself at home for life .. then no one will crush anyone with a car ..
                  And then as many as 50 people per day die .. Compare with a "virus" .. where 50 people in just 2 months ..

                  PS .. the car, by the way, can stray with the same probability every day .. and half of the virus has been ill, and even they themselves don’t know about it .. but they continue to shake ..))
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich April 7 2020 13: 49 New
                    +8
                    Quote: Roman123567
                    And still lock yourself at home for life .. then no one will crush anyone with a car ..

                    Little difference: you can’t lock yourself, but you can wear a mask
                    Quote: Roman123567
                    And then as many as 50 people per day die .. Compare with a "virus" .. where 50 people in just 2 months ..

                    I didn’t understand anything ...
                    Quote: Roman123567
                    the car, by the way, can get lost every day with the same probability .. and half the virus has already been ill, and even they themselves don’t know about it .. but they continue to shake ..))

                    Half is from the subcortex?
                    As for the "non-shaking", please go to Bergamo and Milan.
                    1. Roman123567
                      Roman123567 April 7 2020 14: 08 New
                      0
                      Little difference: you can’t lock yourself, but you can wear a mask
                      Well, why not .. Very simple ..
                      Every year, an influenza epidemic takes away 300-600 thousand people in the world ..
                      Now about 4 thousand have died in 40 months ..
                      Against this background, the question is - all your life your wife sews masks, erases, dries ?? Do you always walk only in it ??


                      And then as many as 50 people per day die .. Compare with a "virus" .. where 50 people in just 2 months ..

                      In Russia, 50 people per day die in road accidents ..
                      50 people died from the virus in 2 months ..
                      Now think what is more important for your safety - a mask or helmet ..

                      As for the "non-shaking", please go to Bergamo and Milan.

                      The average daily mortality in Italy is 1680 people .. From statistics for 5 years ..
                      1. Olgovich
                        Olgovich April 7 2020 14: 29 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        Well, why not .. Very simple ..

                        Nope: There will be nothing to eat.
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        Every year, an influenza epidemic takes away 300-600 thousand people in the world ..
                        Now about 4 thousand have died in 40 months ..
                        In this the background in question

                        The background is still NO: the flu is a complete event, the virus is absolutely NOT.
                        When it’s over, then we’ll count.
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        all your life your wife sews masks, erases, dries ?? Do you always walk only in it ??

                        I still don’t go to it: except for the store
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        In Russia, 50 people per day die in road accidents ..
                        50 people died from the virus in 2 months ..

                        Already FINISHED? No?
                        So what is the talk about?
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        The average daily mortality in Italy is 1680 people .. From statistics for 5 years ..

                        1,5 thousand is the usual estimate. Today 2,3 thousand a day, and 2,5 three days ago.
                        Differences, do not see?
                      2. Roman123567
                        Roman123567 April 7 2020 15: 00 New
                        -2
                        Nope: There will be nothing to eat.
                        Our president believes otherwise ..

                        The background is still NO: the flu is a complete event, the virus is absolutely NOT.
                        When it’s over, then we’ll count.

                        This is the flu .. the next annual variety .. And even the numbers themselves confirm this .. Anyway, but more than the flu from the year does not come deaths .. So what saw the criticality ??

                        I still don’t go to it: except for the store
                        I repeat - Every year, an influenza epidemic takes away 300-600 thousand people in the world .. I think if you take all the other diseases, the figure will increase by an order of magnitude .. So you went to the masks store all your life ??)

                        Already FINISHED? No?
                        So what is the talk about?
                        Talk about statistics .. Dry numbers:
                        50 people per day die in traffic accidents ..
                        50 people died from the virus in 2 months ..

                        See the difference ??

                        And now with regards to the fact that will end..
                        That’s the probability of dying in a traffic accident will NEVER .. Every morning, leaving your home, you risk dying with the chances of 50 people a day ..
                        And this is all my life !! 70 years of 365 days a year ..
                        And just 80% get the virus asymptomatically .. And a person who, even without knowing it, has already been ill, hides from the virus at home, although his probability of dying is not 50 people in TWO MONTHS, but simply simply zero .. And now we put this on the remainder years of his life .. for 365 days a year .. and zeros everywhere .. These are not even comparable figures !!

                        1,5 thousand is the usual size. Today 2,3 thousand a day, it was 2,5 three days ago.
                        Differences, do not see?
                        I see that the numbers are far-fetched ..
                        And this despite the fact that "the Italians write down as victims of the epidemic everyone who died with a confirmed infection with the virus, regardless of the real cause of death."
                        That is, as I said - you got the virus, calmly endured it, without even realizing it, then died in the garage under a bag of buckwheat .. the doctors, having performed the test, entered you in the statistics ..
                      3. Olgovich
                        Olgovich April 7 2020 15: 39 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        Our president believes otherwise ..

                        Present.
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        This is the flu .. the next annual variety .. And even the numbers themselves confirm this .. Like it or not, but more than the flu for the year in any way not run deaths ..

                        Are you a prophet ?, No?
                        What is the conversation NOW about?
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        I’ll say it again - Every year, an influenza epidemic takes away 300-600 thousand people in the world .. I think if you take all the other diseases, the figure will increase by an order of magnitude .. So you've been masked all your life?

                        Already YEAR passed?
                        No?
                        With the flu, did China and the WHOLE world stop? Oh no!
                        WHAT would be in China, if not wild quarantine in Johan, eh?
                        "Normal" victims?
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        Talk about statistics .. Dry numbers:
                        50 people per day die in traffic accidents ..
                        50 people died from the virus in 2 months ..

                        From cars - that a month ago, that today 50-no growth.
                        From the virus a month ago -1, today 50. Growth by 5%!
                        Again, the difference is not visible?
                        Quote: Roman123567
                        I see that the numbers are far-fetched ..
                        And this despite the fact that "the Italians write down as victims of the epidemic everyone who died with a confirmed infection with the virus, regardless of the real cause of death."

                        do you read or not? 1,5 thousand is the usual daily mortality in Italy for several years.

                        Now, during the epidemic -up to 2,5 thousand! in a day. Growth of 60%!
                        What's not clear?!
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        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 April 7 2020 08: 57 New
          +3
          breathe evenly. Unlike you, I do not run on each branch and do not struggle with the regime. calm down. you have your own opinion I have my own. But what shall I do? I will decide somehow. without advice.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 April 7 2020 09: 24 New
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            Quote: carstorm 11
            breathe evenly. unlike you I do not run on each branch and do not struggle with the regime.

            Yes. You protect it in every branch.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 April 7 2020 10: 10 New
              -12
              I do what I see fit. I just always react to stupidity and try to fight it, not at all with you. and especially not protecting anyone. I do not care about the regime for power and who is doing what there. I have no political favorites or vice versa. so again, calm down.
              1. Overlock
                Overlock April 7 2020 10: 46 New
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                Quote: carstorm 11
                just always react to stupidity and try to fight it

                you yourself are stupid. Read the regulatory documents. SUCH AS YOU WITH YOUR STUPIDITY increase the number of patients
                1. Chervonny
                  Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 16 New
                  14
                  Quote: Overlock
                  you yourself are stupid. Read the regulatory documents. SUCH AS YOU WITH YOUR STUPIDITY increase the number of patients

                  Why would he read any regulatory documents there. The main thing for him is to be against those who are against. It is evident to him that it gives a kind of pleasure.
                2. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 April 7 2020 14: 16 New
                  0
                  what do I have to do with it? This is the opinion of the doctors and not mine. a mask to a healthy person will not bring much benefit.
                  1. New Year day
                    New Year day April 7 2020 14: 57 New
                    +8
                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    what do I have to do with it? this is the opinion of doctors

                    which ones? there is an official position of WHO, the Ministry of Health of the Russian Federation, Rospotrebnadzor. They are for masks + other measures. Maybe you nurse authority? Although we have nurses as well as the most disciplined
      3. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn April 7 2020 09: 26 New
        15
        Quote: carstorm 11
        you really got tired with these masks ... all doctors unanimously say that the masks do not work. it's just a piece of tissue on the face. they are only useful if you are ill and do not want to infect others.

        So maybe you are sick, but do not know about it. Most carry coronovirus asymptomatically. Its danger in the rapid spread and long incubation period (2 weeks)
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 April 7 2020 10: 12 New
          -16
          Well then, it is necessary to put all the polls on protective equipment and more serious than a mask. all 146 million people? less than 6000 people are sick throughout the country.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day April 7 2020 14: 59 New
            +8
            Quote: carstorm 11
            less than 6000 people are sick throughout the country.

            you are a very strange person! Do not count your chickens before they are hatched. There is a mathematical forecast, it will end in June. What do you think. why? laughing
      4. Avior
        Avior April 7 2020 10: 23 New
        16
        You are not right
        Doctors don't say that.
        They say that masks do not give a guarantee, but this is far from being the same thing that supposedly does not help
      5. for
        for April 7 2020 10: 37 New
        10
        Quote: carstorm 11
        you really got tired with these masks ... all doctors unanimously say that the masks do not work.

        And why did he put them on?
        1. dva36
          dva36 April 7 2020 12: 03 New
          0
          The main protective function of the mask is to reduce the likelihood of touching the face with your hands. Until the virus gets on your face, you are healthy. On average, an hour 90 people touch the face. It just physically interferes and warns against touching. That's all.
      6. Overlock
        Overlock April 7 2020 10: 45 New
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        all doctors unanimously say that masks do not work.

        Do not write nonsense!
        1.WHO pro masks for protection against coronavirus
        Wearing a medical mask may help limit the spread of certain respiratory infections. However, wearing a mask alone is not a guaranteed barrier to viruses and should be combined with other preventative measures., including hand and organ hygiene, breathing and avoiding close contact by maintaining a distance of at least 1 meter between yourself and people who are potentially affected by coronavirus
        2. The Ministry of Health of the Russian Federation alsoRecommends medical masks for added protection from coronavirus infection of COVID-19 to which the SARS-CoV-2 virus leads. In its recommendations, the Ministry of Health of Russia agrees with Rospotrebnadzor.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 April 7 2020 14: 20 New
          0
          or may not contribute. Do all healthy people need to wear a mask to avoid infection? WHO answers unequivocally: no. “There is currently no evidence that the systematic use of medical masks by healthy people can prevent the transmission of the 2019-nCoV virus.”
          COMMENT OF THE INFECTIOUS DOCTOR

          “For healthy people, a mask can be more or less useful if you put it on in a cramped room when there are a lot of people around,” says Yevgeny Timakov, an infectious disease doctor and vaccinologist. - At the same time, the mask does not save from the virus, as such, is not able to delay every microscopic viral particle. But the bandage on the face will delay small drops of saliva and mucus, which contain viral units (if the patient coughs or sneezes nearby. - Ed.). Due to this, the viral load on the body of a healthy person will decrease, and it will be easier for him to cope with the causative agent of the disease. The chances are better that the disease will proceed in a milder form or that immunity will not allow the process to start at all. On the street, masks are, of course, useless.
          etc. etc. etc.......
          1. New Year day
            New Year day April 7 2020 15: 01 New
            +5
            Quote: carstorm 11
            the mask can be more or less useful for people who wear it in a cramped room when there are a lot of people around, ”says Yevgeny Timakov, an infectious disease doctor, vaccinologist

      7. antique
        antique April 7 2020 11: 15 New
        +7
        Quote: carstorm 11
        you really got tired with these masks ... all doctors unanimously say that the masks do not work. it's just a piece of tissue on the face. they are only useful if you are ill and do not want to infect others.

        WHO has already officially changed its position. And he said that wearing masks by healthy people reduces the risk of getting sick. In China it is forbidden to walk without masks. And the country almost coped with the problem.
      8. Sergey39
        Sergey39 April 7 2020 13: 25 New
        -7
        Quote: carstorm 11
        you really got tired with these masks ...

        Yes, it doesn’t matter to them. Masks - this is just an excuse to poke, posing as great revolutionaries.
    2. polita4er
      polita4er April 7 2020 12: 15 New
      +3
      Quote: Stas157
      Self insulated. No masks

      According to "Russia 24" they showed how to make an antiseptic and masks with your own hands. Here is a video, maybe someone will come in handy:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcNfPpQEFks
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny April 7 2020 21: 49 New
        +1
        Unnecessarily, the drones are used to sitting on the priest evenly and cursing the state, recalling the Kremlin elders with tears. Do you see the first comments with dozens of pluses? They do not comment on other topics due to a lack of intelligence and other interests.
    3. Den717
      Den717 April 7 2020 12: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: Stas157
      and someone at the workplace cannot get a mask.

      If you forgot how to make a mask (reusable) without panic, look at the Pentagon general’s video. laughing Stop whining ...
    4. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 7 2020 12: 32 New
      -3
      From today, almost all industrial production in Russia has begun work.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day April 7 2020 15: 02 New
        +8
        Quote: Vadim237
        From today, almost all industrial production in Russia has begun work.

        Asians and Belarusians - builders checked on COVID-19?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 April 7 2020 19: 46 New
          +1
          I don’t know, you ask them - your guys.
    5. Chervonny
      Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 07 New
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      Quote: Stas157
      everyone survives as best he can.

      These are the realities of capitalism.
    6. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED April 7 2020 16: 01 New
      +2
      For a bloated virus, it's time to forget.
      Many honest people and experts from different countries have already spoken out on this subject.
      Here is the opinion of our famous scientist and specialist Vitaly Zverev -


      this "news" was also printed on the pages of other well-known Internet publications -
      in "Komsomolskaya Pravda", "RIA Novosti", in "Izvestia", etc.
      Unfortunately, the consequences of this hysteria in politics, economics, and agriculture will be very serious.
      The country, as before, is under occupation. The occupation regime fulfills the tasks assigned to it and therefore we will not see independent and sober decisions and actions in the country.
      The main objective of the occupation regime is to reduce the number of indigenous people in the country.
      "Papuans" should remain as many as necessary in order to extract, pump, pump, cut and transport the wealth of the subsoil and territories. Besides this, the "world elite" needs new "vital territories", fertile lands.
      Margaret Thatcher, at one time the English prime minister, said (quote from publicist Andrei Parshev in his book Why Russia Is Not America.): “She speaks clearly, with an Oxford pronunciation, in a simple, understandable language, this is not some kind of Bush for you, with her mouth, as if stuffed with peanuts. ”So, speaking about the prospects of the USSR, she said something like the following, without explaining it in any way:“ On the territory of the USSR, the residence of 15 million people is economically justified. I scrolled through the record again, maybe at least "fifty" ("fifty"). No, exactly "fiftiin" - "fifteen", I heard right, "- wrote Parshev." And this is not the only statement by politicians in power about "the necessary size of the population of Russia (USSR)."
      Why bring your armies and troops to the occupied land when you can use the services of the local population subject to the invaders? To create a hired army on its territory, paid by the natives themselves - the gendarmerie, so that it (under the external control) itself (the country) looks after the order. Armaments? It can also be produced locally, and even for money from taxes on the natives themselves. And even, to develop locally, as local developers are better aware of local weather conditions and specifics.
      Pension reform, the introduction of new taxes and the increase of old ones, the creation of artificial crises and other "unexpected problems", the strangulation of small and medium-sized businesses, aggressive advertising of contraceptives (now hidden ...), the promotion of the Western "way of life", debauchery, life for oneself - a loved one, the upbringing of selfish personalities instead of friendship and mutual assistance to one's neighbor, juvenile justice, the destruction of the foundations of the family, opposing children to their parents, deception through under-education and media means, etc., etc.
      Everything is aimed at fulfilling the main task facing the "managers" - reducing the indigenous population.
      And are we waiting for an explanation? From whom ?
      If we take the above point of view for reality, then everything that happens becomes clear and understandable, and the questions disappear by themselves.
    7. Andrey NM
      Andrey NM April 7 2020 16: 53 New
      +8
      Not only is "self-isolation" not spelled out in any law, but the authorities are simply beginning to get confused in legislation. Discussions about emergencies and references to Federal Law No. 68 "ON PROTECTION OF POPULATION AND TERRITORIES FROM EMERGENCY SITUATIONS OF NATURAL AND MAN-GENERAL CHARACTER" begin. And there is mainly about accidents, natural disasters and not a word about epidemics and infections. About them there is a law ФЗ №52 from 30.03.1999g. "ON SANITARY AND EPIDEMIOLOGICAL WELL-BEING OF THE POPULATION", where everything is clearly stated what and how to do in cases of epidemics. That quarantine should be declared, and no self-liquidation and self-isolation, by whom and how it is declared (and almost any chapter has the right to do as advised by the chief sanitary doctor), that the isolated should be paid compensation from the FSS. But no, we will continue to be deceived and broadcast about some isolation, so as not to be responsible to the population.
      There are no funds for organizing isolation means (masks, etc.), but there are funds for organizing an electronic system for tracking the population and enterprises with the issuance of electronic cards. And fines, fines, fines ...
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    1. dirk182
      dirk182 April 7 2020 09: 10 New
      15
      There are test results and even vaccines
      sound! Maybe these are the antimalarial drugs that Golikova spoke about? So these drugs were invented 20 years ago. They are now being tested in France like. There are many side effects. There are no real tests for them, regarding the coronavirus. And what a paradox !!! We have a wonderful academician Chuchalin, who created "Ingaverin", which is being bought up by the Chinese with might and main. Specialist in virology. With a worldwide reputation !!! Still the Soviet school. So terrible and surprising is that neither the Minister of Health invited him to his place, no one at all! How are they going to create a vaccine ???
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 7 2020 13: 01 New
        -4
        Now vaccines are tested in the Novosibirsk medical cluster, Altai, recently
        "An innovative rapid analysis of the leading Russian biopharmaceutical company Generium for coronavirus infection, developed by the Medico-Biological Union group of companies, has received registration with the Federal Service for Surveillance in Healthcare of the Russian Federation. This is the first domestic express test that allows, using standard equipment, with an accuracy of more than 94 % determine the presence of coronavirus within 40 minutes, including sample preparation, ”the company said.
        As explained by TASS in the company, unlike other available tests based on the principle of polymerase chain reaction with preliminary preparation of samples with nucleic acid isolation kits and a reverse transcription step, the Isotherm SARS-CoV-2 RNA-screen test system used the method loop isothermal amplification. Its use reduces the analysis time by more than three times and reduces the possibility of entanglement of samples by reducing the number of stages of preliminary preparation.
        Pre-processing of the samples will take 35 minutes, the amplification time is 25 minutes. Thus, the result for one sample can be obtained in one hour, ”the press service said.

        The press service said that the express test is already being delivered to the Russian regions. “On Friday April 3, the rapid test went to the first 16 regions, it leaves every day for new areas, by the end of the week we plan to deliver to 80-90% of the regions,” the agency’s interlocutor said.

        The manufacturer plans to produce up to 500 thousand express tests per week.
        Generium is a Russian company engaged in the development, production and promotion of highly effective biotechnological drugs. The group includes a plant for the production of genetically engineered drugs and a development center for genetically engineered drugs, as well as a center for the development and production of cellular products. In 2018, the company was awarded the Government Science and Technology Prize for developing a drug for the treatment of hemophilia. Today the company produces eight drugs, one intradermal and one laboratory tests, which are used in Russia and abroad, more than 30 drugs are at various stages of development, some of which have no analogues in the world. "We wish them success in their activities.
        1. dirk182
          dirk182 April 7 2020 13: 36 New
          +6
          Dear, I’ll say easier! I myself was suspected of this virus. And it was said clearly: they do tests only in Novosibirsk itself. Wait 2 days! Take a smear and send. What 500 thousand tests ?! Where are they? In Moscow, according to the latest infe, they make 6000 per day. In the regions of silence.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 April 7 2020 19: 51 New
            0
            You learn to read the news - then there will be a conversation.
        2. dirk182
          dirk182 April 7 2020 13: 43 New
          +5
          Now vaccines are tested in the Novosibirsk medical cluster
          Innovative Express Analysis
          So a vaccine or an analysis?
          http://www.generium.ru/ их сайт. Пройдите и ткните мне пальцем в новости (фирма данная ведет новостную ленту своей деятельности), где речь идет о тесте или вакцине от коронавируса. Может хватит слепо верить новостям и начать проверять инфу самому?
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 April 7 2020 19: 50 New
            +1
            You see, you don’t know how to read at all - they test the vaccine, but the first express tests were put into production in the Vladimir region.
            1. dirk182
              dirk182 April 8 2020 08: 34 New
              0
              Now vaccines are tested in the Novosibirsk medical cluster, Altai, recently
              "An innovative rapid analysis of the leading Russian biopharmaceutical company Generium for coronavirus infection, developed by the Medico-Biological Union group of companies, has received registration with the Federal Service for Surveillance in Healthcare of the Russian Federation. This is the first domestic express test that allows, using standard equipment, with an accuracy of more than 94 % determine the presence of coronavirus within 40 minutes, including sample preparation, ”the company said.
              Your words??? Or is it another person who wrote under your pseudonym. Are you two in one? If anything, the vaccine is Novosibirsk State Research Center of Virology and Biotechnology "Vector". What are the rapid tests?) Chips?) And you know that these tests were in China in March? Our stupidly buy them, posing as their own. You can see the investigation of A. Karaulov in this regard. If you are not convinced, then:
              EXPRESS TEST IS NOT ALWAYS ACCURATE

              Quote from the website of the Government of the Ivanovo Region, after the update on April 3, 2020:

              “Two positive rapid tests previously sent to federal laboratories have yielded negative results. These are patients from Kineshma and Vichuga.
              That is already up to 3! April these rapid tests were.
    2. Overlock
      Overlock April 7 2020 10: 49 New
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      Quote: URAL72
      In general, I believe that the situation is under control.

      how interesting?
      Quote: URAL72
      . There are test results and even vaccines.

      tell me.
      Quote: URAL72
      Who has better results?

      Germany, which since January has tested citizens and guests and has the best results in Europe, and which does not do the stupid things that are happening in the country
    3. antique
      antique April 7 2020 11: 40 New
      +9
      Quote: URAL72
      The article is nonsense of a madman. What kind of panic? Clearly traced Putinophobia. Ruined medicine! Yes. But under capitalism, free medicine on a former scale cannot be. It should be noted, medicine is still better than in most countries of the world, look at least at the states.

      Amazing time has come. Even on the site of the Military Review, which always allowed only a lackey and cringing before the supreme power, fresh breath appeared. Is the ice cracked? And the harsh moderators, biting their empty fists, realized that no matter how much glory, and no matter how hard you try to present power in the form of a proud eagle, nothing happens. Instead of the powerful wings spread in flight, the Phoenix hovering at an unattainable height, we always see the Harpy or the Gargoyle.
      Who is to blame for this? The fifth column, the warring Kremlin towers, the oligarchy <or ... I am scared to continue, because my previous big post dedicated to how to say it, you know where the person hidden, was deleted after 1,5 days without explanation. The glorious sons of the Harpy <devoted and watchful have done their job.
      The author is well done, he raised acute questions and put the necessary accents. The article does not call for the collapse of Russia, as some commentators try to imagine. Russia itself is falling apart methodically and persistently. Power has lost touch with reality. It is practically inadequate. We see it, the whole world sees it. Therefore, our task is to unite and protect the country from external threats, on the one hand, and on the other, we must clearly say to this so-called power, when the question of Russia or power arises, we will choose Russia. Enough lies, hypocrisy and mediocre mnogohodovochki. The bell rings.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 April 7 2020 11: 58 New
        +7
        Quote: Antique
        fresh breath appeared. The bell is sounding the alarm ..

        laughing laughing laughing From the heart. wassat The day is just beginning, but already done. fellow hi
  4. Ptolemy Lag
    Ptolemy Lag April 7 2020 08: 37 New
    +6
    It's like that. But hunger is not aunt ...
  5. Malyuta
    Malyuta April 7 2020 09: 12 New
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    Quote: DMB 75
    What the result of this example of the Union showed clearly.

    A colleague, nothing like this can happen in Russia, well, we don’t have any along the perimeter of the borders of national suburbs !!!
    The question is different, the government itself produced the country in the country, we are talking about Moscow, which the regions are no longer quiet, but loudly hated. Remembering that revolutions are being made in capitals, the authorities are stupid, concentrated all finances in the capital, raised the standard of living in relation to Zamkady at times, at the same time destroyed the whole industry in Moscow, making virtually a huge city a parasite in the body of the main Russia.
    Stories about the collapse of Russia in the image of the USSR is a BUGER of power, deliberately thrown into the masses through zombie propaganda, they say, be patient, otherwise it will happen again. But the hatred of Moscow for Zamkady as a whole is a reality. The lumpenization of the population did not go from the regions, but began in the capital, it is there that they pay a lot of money not for the production of material goods, but for the provision of various kinds of services. While the whole country is scrambling in order to somehow survive, in Maskvastan they are shifting winter tiles to summer and vice versa, it is in Moscow that laws are being written that are impenetrable for the whole country and the metropolis does not understand that, for example, the inclusion in the SDA of a passage and marking in tunnels , it has nothing to do with Zamkadye, well, there are NO tunnels and underpasses in Zamkadye either. Or the introduction of fines of 5-10-20-100, etc. thousand for Moscow is normal, but for the regions is nonsense with a salary of 15 tyrov is life fines.
    But having created a "metropolis", living and fattening at the expense of "colonies", the authorities shot themselves in the knee and with their own hands managed to put a shotgun in the back of the head, not taking into account a simple thing, namely emergency situations. And here the black swan virus flew in and now Moscow, instead of the center of gravity, has become a breeding ground for infection, it was from there, as from a transport hub, waves of "intricate flu" spread across the country; ...
    Here is such an oil painting.
    1. polita4er
      polita4er April 7 2020 12: 10 New
      -25
      Quote: Malyuta
      The question is different, the government itself produced the country in the country, we are talking about Moscow, which the regions are no longer quiet, but loudly hated. Remembering that revolutions are being made in capitals, the authorities are stupid, concentrated all finances in the capital, raised the standard of living in relation to Zamkady at times, at the same time destroyed the whole industry in Moscow, making virtually a huge city a parasite in the body of the main Russia.


      Strongly disagree. Behind the Moscow Ring Road, salaries are several times lower than in Moscow. It's true. But it must be borne in mind that every resident of Zamkady has a garden and a private household. Zamkady residents eat from gardens, grow poultry and livestock. Therefore, they need money only for clothing and utility bills. So, it was quite fair to set lower salaries for them than in the Capital, where you have to buy food, including food. I myself do not approve of such a policy, but so far it is a given.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn April 7 2020 12: 26 New
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        Quote: polita4er
        Residents of the castle feed from the gardens, grow poultry and livestock.

        laughing In your castle is a continuous village ?! Those who eat from gardens and raise poultry and livestock do not go to work, because this very cultivation takes much more time than an 8-hour working day. I'm already silent about the inhabitants of the cities of Zamkadia wassat
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 7 2020 13: 07 New
        11
        You will forgive there - they ate hard drugs in self-isolation "Zamkadye residents eat from vegetable gardens"
      3. vindigo
        vindigo April 7 2020 13: 18 New
        +4
        And we were told that. You live in the south near the sea. You are warm, there are always fresh fruits and vegetables, you don’t need to go to resorts, you don’t need to buy warm clothes. Why do you need a big salary?
      4. ser56
        ser56 April 7 2020 17: 59 New
        +4
        Quote: polita4er
        that every resident of Zamkady has a garden and a private household

        right now I’ll go out into the courtyard of our 25th building and plant potatoes ... what nonsense are you writing? bully
        Quote: polita4er
        lower salaries than in the capital

        on the contrary, it is necessary to make people go to the province to live ...
      5. Gaersul
        Gaersul April 7 2020 23: 08 New
        +2
        Quote: polita4er
        Behind the Moscow Ring Road, salaries are several times lower than in Moscow. It's true.

        Not true. Or, to be more precise, it concerns not all areas, most likely, if we are talking about all kinds of managers, then it is. But the situation in production is completely different. I talked with a colleague from the branch, with the same job, my salary is 15-20 percent higher (depending on the month) and yes, I understand that 20% is the difference (seriously, for a working person’s family, this would be a serious help), but she’s not at all at all.
        1. Freeman
          Freeman April 8 2020 00: 04 New
          0
          Quote: Gaersul
          Quote: polita4er
          Behind the Moscow Ring Road, salaries are several times lower than in Moscow. It's true.

          Not true. Or, to be more precise, it concerns not all areas, most likely, if we are talking about all kinds of managers, then it is. But the situation in production is completely different. I talked with a colleague from the branch, with the same job, my salary is 15-20 percent higher (depending on the month) and yes, I understand that 20% is the difference (seriously, for a working person’s family, this would be a serious help), but she’s not at all at all.


          I confirm, approximately so it is.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 7 2020 13: 10 New
      +2
      There are few large enterprises in Moscow, but there are tens of thousands of medium small and micro enterprises.
    3. Freeman
      Freeman April 7 2020 15: 39 New
      12
      Malyuta Today, 09:12
      ... in maskvastan, they switch the tiles from winter to summer and vice versa ...


      You just do not understand the depth of the problem. wassat / sarcasm /


      Shl. I myself, as a Muscovite, hate this endless "burying money".
    4. Gaersul
      Gaersul April 7 2020 23: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Malyuta
      at the same time destroyed all industry in Moscow

      In fairness, it is worth noting that not all. Although the number of industrial enterprises is certainly incomparable with the period of the USSR.
  6. Campanella
    Campanella April 7 2020 12: 01 New
    +7
    If it can pour out, then it will pour out. In moments of danger, people unite, share the last. But the power itself and its oligarchs are not ready to be divided. And that means it can explode and nothing can be done about it. Greed and stupidity have not saved anyone.
    Why does the doctor Stebenkova forgive the deputies of the same forgiveness and do a coronovirus test for free, but for ordinary citizens, neither a doctor nor a test is put?
    But this deputy is a dummy.
    So to whom is the cemetery, to whom is power and money. That’s why it’s impossible to exclude anything from us.
    1. Chervonny
      Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 17 New
      17
      Quote: Campanella
      Why does the doctor Stebenkova forgive the deputies of the same forgiveness and do a coronovirus test for free, but for ordinary citizens, neither a doctor nor a test is put?

      Because the deputy. "Elite" of the people. They must be protected and cared for. Ugh...
  7. stalker 75
    stalker 75 April 7 2020 13: 25 New
    +3
    which hole? how in 98? because they told us to save yourself who can !!
  8. Chervonny
    Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 06 New
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    Quote: DMB 75
    I join the donut hole to them all, and not the collapse of Russia. The example of the Union showed this clearly.

    The West and the ultra-liberals really need the collapse of Russia. The West will finally realize its centuries-old dream of dismembering Russia.
    If, for some reason, the collapse of Russia happens, it will be very bloody.
  9. New Year day
    New Year day April 7 2020 14: 40 New
    +9
    Quote: DMB 75
    What the result of this example of the Union showed clearly.

    and what's next, besides exclamations? How is the fight against the coronavirus organized, what are the local authorities doing? Really on "5"?
  10. Nick
    Nick April 7 2020 16: 16 New
    +1
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Do not wait!

    Quote: DMB 75
    I join the donut hole to them all, and not the collapse of Russia. The example of the Union showed this clearly

    It is noteworthy that such articles are written by moderators of the VO site. Five or six years ago, they drowned for Russia, for the Donbass. They praised the help of the Donetsk militia, but a couple of years ago they changed their shoes sharply. Apparently there was a customer for an alternative opinion. Salvage defeated everything in
  • Svarog
    Svarog April 7 2020 08: 01 New
    10
    The creation of such state institutions that will serve not the interests of world capital and the oligarchy, but will be engaged in the development of the state and the increase in the well-being of the people. New industrialization, development of own industrial production and agriculture. State planning. The combination of the public sector and private enterprise

    Gold words. This, in my opinion, is not enough. Nationalization also needs to be included in the oil and gas sector, in the energy sector.
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 April 7 2020 09: 04 New
      26
      Let's just say - we want to survive, we must return Soviet power. And the economy of the Stalinist version. We simply have no other way, the last couple of months have clearly shown where the present bourgeois authorities saw us .. They will completely destroy us all - but they will not share a penny from the stolen one.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock April 7 2020 10: 50 New
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        Quote: paul3390
        Let's just say - we want to survive, we must return Soviet power. And the economy of the Stalinist version.

        Do not enter twice in the same water. Already will not work
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 April 7 2020 10: 53 New
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          Well - did we return capitalism in type 91? Why can’t socialism be returned back? For the USSR was the first experience in the history of mankind, moreover, it was tremendously successful.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 April 7 2020 13: 17 New
            -9
            Experience in the end turned out to be the unfortunate consequences of the dismal closure - for complete socialism, Russia has neither the means nor the necessary markets or the right amount of population. All experiments are completed.
            1. paul3390
              paul3390 April 7 2020 13: 35 New
              +7
              Socialism is not an experiment, but the next inevitable stage in the development of mankind. As for the means and markets, you might think that they were with the Bolsheviks! But somehow managed?
              1. your1970
                your1970 April 7 2020 14: 16 New
                +1
                Quote: paul3390
                As for funds and markets - you might think they were with the Bolsheviks! But somehow managed?

                It was just that then there was Weimar Germany, which was ready for anything, even to the point of being loved ... and so the USSR was saved ... well, by selling nationalized "golden toilet bowls" ...
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              2. polita4er
                polita4er April 7 2020 17: 35 New
                +2
                Quote: paul3390
                Socialism is not an experiment, but the next inevitable stage in the development of mankind ..

                If the socialists:
                - do not have a time machine;
                - did not contact the cosmic socialists with Alpha Centauri;
                - did not meet earthly socialists from Atlantis,
                then they have no information about what will happen "after capitalism". That's just zero.
            2. New Year day
              New Year day April 7 2020 15: 04 New
              +8
              Quote: Vadim237
              Experience in the end turned out to be the unfortunate consequences of the dismal closure - for complete socialism, Russia has neither the means nor the necessary markets or the right amount of population.

              but capitalism was never built
              Quote: Vadim237
              All experiments are completed.

              request
          2. oprovergatel
            oprovergatel April 9 2020 16: 59 New
            0
            About "amazingly successful" you can fill in those who wrote in diapers at the end of the 90s or, even more so, were born in the 2000s.

            And those who were floundering in the city .. not 90, which were a direct consequence of the "amazing success" of the USSR, you can not tell these tales!

            Any phenomenon or process is judged by the end result. If the result is the collapse of the country, banditry, poverty, civil wars, then only a person who is not quite mentally healthy will be able to recognize such an experience as "amazingly successful"!
        2. dva36
          dva36 April 7 2020 12: 09 New
          +7
          I propose to try, it certainly will not be worse.
          1. Chervonny
            Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 18 New
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            Quote: dva36
            I propose to try, it certainly will not be worse.

            We must not try. Need to do! Capitalism is the impasse of human development. Only the return of Soviet power can make a powerful leap forward!
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 April 7 2020 19: 57 New
              +2
              You cannot hit a finger for a finger for yourself, you are not even able to sew masks - a disgrace.
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 April 11 2020 23: 33 New
                0
                Maybe then, in general, the whole division of labor is sideways? You are there effective look completely fucked up trying to justify their failures.
          2. Campanella
            Campanella April 7 2020 14: 41 New
            +4
            Only wisely. Gradually.
            But initially take control of all the natural resources. In general, if everything is done correctly, this window of opportunity is for both ordinary people and business. Only, of course, the personal income of the business should be controlled by the state, or rather linked to the general welfare, while the rights to private property should be respected strictly for everyone.
            In fact, it is necessary in the constitution to postulate a number of concepts and strictly adhere to them.
            For example, a business’s income is considered legal if it directly benefits the state and society.
            I would forbid all financial and other games on the exchange.
            In general, the world can think of everything.
            1. your1970
              your1970 April 7 2020 15: 27 New
              +2
              Quote: Campanella
              Only, of course, the personal income of the business should be controlled by the state, or rather linked to the general welfare, while the rights to private property should be respected strictly for everyone.

              That is, the state will control revenues, and expenses? If it leaves in minus tomorrow? What will be the business in these situations?
              1. Campanella
                Campanella April 7 2020 18: 55 New
                0
                Now what is the government doing? It gives money to banks so that they lend you a business.
                The issue is resolved in any system, but in the state. It will be easier.
      2. Chervonny
        Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 18 New
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        Quote: paul3390
        Let's just say - we want to survive, we must return Soviet power. And the economy of the Stalinist version. We simply have no other way, the last couple of months have clearly shown where the present bourgeois authorities saw us .. They will completely destroy us all - but they will not share a penny from the stolen one.

        Paul hi
        Golden words! good
        Further continuation of today's "reforms" leads to a dead end. There is only one way out: the return of Soviet power and the return of the Stalinist economic system!
    2. Chervonny
      Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 17 New
      15
      Quote: Svarog
      Nationalization also needs to be included in the oil and gas sector, in the energy sector.

      Nationalization under capitalism changes only the form of capitalist ownership: private-capitalist to state-monopoly. First you need to change the power from capitalist to Soviet, and then nationalize it.
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 15: 31 New
        +1
        And in the USSR there was state capitalism. Further quote:
        "For example, why the classes in the USSR did not disappear anywhere, and the class structure developed in the same way as in the capitalist countries: the working class grew, the number of the peasantry decreased. Why did the state in the USSR not wither away, but, on the contrary, strengthened, although Marxism speaks of the withering away of the state. Why the leadership of the USSR, armed with the most advanced philosophy, strangled genetics, microbiology, quantum mechanics, cybernetics and even the theory of relativity, but the need to create an atomic bomb prevented. Why, under the most advanced system, labor productivity in the USSR was significantly lower than developed capitalist countries.Why in capitalist Japan in the 80s there was only 3% of rough manual labor, and in the USSR - 50%.
        Why is it that in “socialist” China they decided to fire at the headquarters, then the cultural revolution. As the Chinese leadership could have come up with a campaign to destroy sparrows, which led to crop failures and the extinction of the population.
        Why did hundreds of thousands of skilled workers from a socialist country emigrate to a capitalist one as soon as possible, as soon as the wall separating these countries was destroyed. Why not one of the principles of Soviet power, the principles of the Paris Commune, had a place in the USSR.
        Why, for what purpose, millions of innocent people were destroyed. How could it happen that the number of peasant uprisings in 1928-1928. amounted to 13 thousand, 6,5 thousand per year, and in 1900-1917. - 17 thousand, per year - 0,944 thousand?
        How did it happen that the leaders of the CPSU, for which the other members of the CPSU voted, suddenly threw out their membership cards overnight. Moreover, the breakthrough of the leaders of the CPSU without any difficulties became a bourgeois. And how could it happen that throwing out party cards in two seconds changed the mode of production and threw the USSR from socialism to capitalism. Neither the Entente with Germany, nor World War II in the agrarian and semi-agrarian country defeated the Bolsheviks, and Madame Novodvorskaya waved her hand, and the country that first launched man into space fell apart.
        All these things become extremely clear if you understand that there was state capitalism in the USSR. "
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 April 11 2020 23: 41 New
          -1
          The whole trouble is that communism is designed for smart people, and so far we have only as Ivanovs in the masses. But life does not stand still. As a monkey evolved into a human being, so the Aswanovs evolve once into a human being. And there they will grow wiser over time. Probably. May be.
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Obi-Wan Kenobi April 7 2020 08: 03 New
    +8
    Do not wait!

    Why not wait?
    Where are you writing from? From the Kremlin? From abroad? Do you live on the moon?
    Can't see what's going on around?
    In China, see how they dealt with this infection.
    We have just begun and it is already full of seams.
    And what else will happen in a week, you think?
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 April 7 2020 08: 38 New
      -17
      full seams in what? hundreds of thousands of sick and thousands of dead? or the suture is that even in that small number of patients the smallest mortality in the world?
      1. Overlock
        Overlock April 7 2020 10: 50 New
        18
        Quote: carstorm 11
        sick the smallest mortality in the world?

        who told you that?
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 April 7 2020 11: 04 New
          +4
          Read
          https://www.poisknews.ru/koronavirus/proczent-smertnosti-ot-koronavirusa-po-stranam-s-grafikami/
        2. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 April 7 2020 14: 23 New
          0
          statistics. generally any organization. what you want and what you find.
      2. stalker 75
        stalker 75 April 7 2020 13: 27 New
        +3
        seams in the head of effective managers and the country's top manager
    2. Nameless
      Nameless April 7 2020 08: 39 New
      -2
      What's "full seams"? Have you decided to write here about your drug "parishes"?
    3. Tank hard
      Tank hard April 7 2020 10: 46 New
      -9
      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      Can't see what's going on around?

      What's going on?
      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      We have just begun and it is already full of seams.

      What is such a seam in what is this manifested?
      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      And what else will happen in a week, you think?

      Yes, nothing will happen in a week ...
      You, as a famous Jedi, do not cry at all. repeat
    4. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 7 2020 13: 25 New
      -9
      Only the round boob can believe in the garbage that China coped with the new virus with its quantity, crowding and sociability of the population - infection continues, and the media will give out only what the party says - everything is like in the USSR.
  • Finches
    Finches April 7 2020 08: 22 New
    +4
    About Great Russia, I am only for it, but the trouble is that our revival does not take place through evolution, but through revolutionary devastation - "to the bottom and then!" Why is Pushkin a genius? He, in one short and intelligible phrase through the prism of the history of the Pugachevsky rebellion, the prism of the Decembrist uprising, already as a contemporary, deduced the formula, giving an assessment for centuries to all future guardians to change life for the better -

    "God forbid to see a Russian revolt - Senseless and merciless. Those who are plotting impossible coups in our country, are either young and do not know our people, or they are hard-hearted people, whose little head is a stranger, and their own neck is a penny."

    And the history of Russia then repeatedly confirmed this, only so did not teach anything ...
    1. Mastrer
      Mastrer April 7 2020 08: 44 New
      24
      Truly so. Only riots / revolutions they did not come from a good life. And each (!) Time this could have been avoided, but the authorities showed tremendous stubbornness.
      1. Finches
        Finches April 7 2020 08: 47 New
        +9
        So the power we have from time immemorial, is also often meaningless ... This is still a German Minih God knows when he noticed:"Russia is ruled directly by the Lord God. Otherwise, it is impossible to imagine how this state still exists."

        Something pulls me on this thread for quotes! laughing
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta April 7 2020 09: 59 New
          24
          Quote: Finches
          from time immemorial, it is also often meaningless ... This is still the German Munnich God knows when he noticed: "Russia is ruled directly by the Lord God. Otherwise, it is impossible to imagine how this state still exists."

          Well, the Lord God and tired of all this bacchanalia, taking place in Russia for almost 30 years!
          And if you are already drawn to quotes, so "Annushka has already spilled oil" and you can't do anything about it.
          The other day at the Patriarchs, the event happened, as it was written and what is characteristic, as evil tongues joke, the name of one of the participants in the events strongly resembles the character of Bulgakov, who was driven by a tram.
          Think mystic? However, the authorities did not let the little harmless "shaman" Gabyshev go not only to Moscow, but even to Irkutsk.
          So, you can quite think about someone's sanity.
          1. Finches
            Finches April 7 2020 10: 11 New
            -5
            The state is - in fact, not a benefactor - the state is a punitive body - if anyone has forgotten! This is where we must proceed! And there have always been people opposed to the state - monarchy, autocracy, democracy or the dictatorship of the proletariat ... Therefore, Anushka shed oil, did not spill it - if the state is able to protect itself and here is the part of the people who support it - it will protect itself, and if the state is weak - that’s like Ukraine, it’s not power itself, it cannot protect people and lives in ... It is there! Pure water dialectics of the development and interaction of man, society and the state! Russia is shocked by popular unrest? No! What do you see the prerequisites for riots - I do not see them at all! And private discontent is an ordinary shaking of the air! 1% of the population have no determination to go to barricades!
            1. Malyuta
              Malyuta April 7 2020 10: 43 New
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              Quote: Finches
              The state is - in fact, not a benefactor - the state is a punitive body - if anyone has forgotten!

              I am very sorry hi BUT.This is your personal interpretation of the definition of the state.
              The protection of society, personal security and the integrity of the border are the main tasks of the state.
              Quote: Finches
              What do you see the prerequisites for riots - I do not see them at all

              Firstly, I did not say a word about the riots, DO NOT OVERRIDE, I answered your quote, in another quote.
              And secondly, if you or I don’t see something, this does not mean that it is not. hi
              PySy. Historical parallels on the topic
              Quote: Finches
              1% of the population have no determination to go to barricades!
              I don’t want to spend, I hope, remember it yourself.
              1. Finches
                Finches April 7 2020 10: 57 New
                -2
                Yes, it's not me - it's Machiavelli! The essence of the state has not changed since then, they just added a touch of humanity to the force - and so "the sovereign must sometimes be like animals" That the Russian Empire will fall into closet — smart people understood at the coronation of Nicholas that something was wrong with the USSR — smart people understood right away with the death of Brezhnev, and now I do not consider myself smart people, but no prerequisites for coups no! There is a senile grumbling of a certain layer! And by and large, the bulk of the people want to live in peace and raise their children and they don’t care who is sitting in the Kremlin! The main thing that would not interfere! In this regard, the elections are very indicative - many people didn’t stupidly go to them, and whoever came - they voted for Putin - that’s the whole story for you!
                1. Malyuta
                  Malyuta April 7 2020 11: 51 New
                  17
                  Quote: Finches
                  Yes, it's not me - it's Machiavelli!

                  A somewhat loose retelling of Machiavelli, and there are no quotes contradicting to pull, I only note, however, that the same Niccolo lived at the turn of the 15th and 16th centuries and where is that Florentine Republic now? request But you, starting from the philosophical tract of 500 years ago, also argue that the nature of man has not changed
                  Quote: Finches
                  And by and large, the bulk of the people want to live in peace and raise their children and they don’t care who is sitting in the Kremlin!
                  , which means "To know what should happen, it is enough to trace what happened ... This comes from the fact that all human affairs are done by people who always have the same passion and therefore they are inevitably given the same results" . That's why I told you, look at the story and see our prospects.
                  PySy. Over the course of 500 years, a lot of things have changed, including philosophical teachings, and so the dialectics of Marxism-Leninism have not been canceled.
                  And here's the question for you, why a completely successful doctor from the aristocratic family of Ernesto Guevara de la Serna, to run through the jungle of America and the deserts of Africa in a role unusual for the doctor and aristocrat, so what?
                  Read at his leisure his books, fascinating reading, believe me, very applicable to the present day and as a development of the same Marxism-Leninisia.
                  1. Finches
                    Finches April 7 2020 12: 07 New
                    -3
                    The fact of the matter is that human nature has not changed - and we have not had romantics like Che in Russia since Kotovsky’s time! laughing So the point is not in quotes, but, I repeat, in the very essence of the state - whose punitive functions will always prevail over social ones! As for Marxism-Leninism, yes - but the whole problem is that it was abandoned theoretically to develop immediately after Stalin passed away! I re-read it the other day. Economic problems in the USSR — the most intelligent, by the way, work! And after all, while forbidding the textbook of political science, he correctly pointed out that it was necessary first to determine the economic model of development under socialism, and it was necessary to move away from pure, classical Marxism ... He was not heard and did not understand! As a result, the economy of the USSR was not able to rebuild from mobilization (military and post-war) to social, which led to its collapse! And there is still no such economic theory of socialism ... As for capitalist democracy, everything is simple - it is the punitive functions that play the first violin - this is the protection of those "Large modern wealth acquired in the most dishonest way" - in the West - a lot of time has passed and everything has settled down there in this regard, so a little more social trinkets! And in its purest form, a large huckster hires a government official through whom he lobby and defends his commercial interests through elections, legitimizing power!
              2. your1970
                your1970 April 7 2020 14: 21 New
                +4
                The state is a machine for oppressing one class by another, a machine to keep other subordinate classes in obedience to one class.
                (V. Lenin) .....
          2. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 13: 18 New
            -4
            Why a shaman in Moscow? I’m afraid that under the Union, this same Gabyshev could only reach the nearest psychiatric hospital. Where he would continue his campaign under the haloperidol.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 7 2020 13: 26 New
        -2
        They all started - from empty store shelves.
    2. Campanella
      Campanella April 7 2020 14: 52 New
      +2
      Nothing is impossible in life. Pushkin is certainly a genius, but he did not claim that we were not given the evolutionary path. Just the evolutionary path also requires courage. And only the people can force the government to make concessions.
      Which actually was before the revolution. But again there are people who will quickly want to do everything (intentionally or not), like that and get into a tailspin.
      Putin said that the people chose capitalism, but what if we tell him what we want socialism?
  • Far B
    Far B April 7 2020 08: 23 New
    13
    But this is the most
    Do not wait! angry
    you tell those who are pushing the country into this very confusion. Note - when private Shamsutdinov in Transbaikalia shot six colleagues - he did not push the country into confusion (although the case is out of the ordinary). And when they tried to organize a “new greatness” like a revolutionary cell, they didn’t push the country into confusion (here on their part, it’s more likely, after all, stupidity and childishness). But what can I say - in our country, even figures from the ISIS banned in the country are successfully knitted, not allowing them to push the country into confusion.
    In fact, only those whose activity affect the vast majority of citizens. And in this case, the turmoil becomes only a classic counteraction on these very actions. But these same "ones" are by no means among you and me, they are not underground revolutionaries, not bombers in zorro masks - the "ones" you need are sitting in the Kremlin. So the above
    Do not wait! angry
    Kindly address them. Maybe they’ll hear. Perhaps listen.
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta April 7 2020 10: 00 New
      16
      Quote: Dalny V
      Maybe they’ll hear. Perhaps listen.

      It is useless, they will not hear and do not listen.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 7 2020 13: 29 New
      -11
      And you’ll take care of something and no trouble will come into your head.
      1. Campanella
        Campanella April 7 2020 14: 55 New
        +1
        Do not say nonsense!
  • boss
    boss April 7 2020 08: 39 New
    -16
    In forcing!
    the author intentionally exaggerates and distorting the facts intimidates us with the collapse of Russia, because they are forced to pay for utilities and loans)
    the analysis is weak at all, but as post-apocalyptic fiction you can read.
    Believe me, in Russia one of the strongest and most stable authorities.
    the people and the army believe in their commander in chief and president.
    separatism will not work.
    1. dirk182
      dirk182 April 7 2020 09: 24 New
      +9
      maybe he is pumping, but in January-February 17 tons of gold were exported from the country (VTB, Sberbank, etc.)
      Bad sign - gold is actively exported from Russia. It always has been before the collapse of the state.
      https://censoru.net/2020/04/07/plohoj-znak-iz-rossii-aktivno-vyvozjat-zoloto-tak-vsegda-bylo-pered-krahom-gosudarstva.html
    2. Campanella
      Campanella April 7 2020 15: 03 New
      +6
      What kind of people are you talking about?
      People as you do not listen, bears power as they can.
      If the people knew how this power lives at their expense, then they definitely endured it with a filthy broom. But propaganda fulfills its pieces of silver.
      Vaughn Sobyanin gives out his apartment for a state account and nothing, but we have to get into a mortgage and loans. They tell us there is no money — hold on, and why are these rulers not starving and not being treated by our doctors?

      The same president spends money on prestigious watches, and then compassion for the people. Who is he? A hypocrite, a hypocrite and a traitor to the interests of the people!
  • Cut Samshitov
    Cut Samshitov April 7 2020 08: 45 New
    -10
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    The country is falling into turmoil
    Do not wait! angry

    I read the article .... I went to the Echo of Moscow?
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 April 7 2020 12: 00 New
      -3
      Quote: Sawing Boxwood
      went to the Echo of Moscow?

      No - I just got acquainted with the work of Samsonov. yes Sometimes it’s very funny. laughing
      1. brat07
        brat07 April 8 2020 04: 20 New
        0
        Quote: Paranoid50
        Quote: Sawing Boxwood
        went to the Echo of Moscow?

        No - I just got acquainted with the work of Samsonov. yes Sometimes it’s very funny. laughing

        The same "nicknames" that used to be together
        he was "minus", now he is also "plus".
        I’m wondering, why would it be?
        I am with them.
        He probably "changed orientation"?
        Most likely yes!
        You "pass", the author. repeat
  • Frieda
    Frieda April 7 2020 08: 57 New
    -14
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    The country is falling into turmoil
    Do not wait! angry

    I agree with your opinion. good hi
    But the liberals must not give up. Give one panicky article a day, gentlemen, "all-propals", you can get more! Catch up and overtake Echo Moskvy, Dozhd and FBK !!! The crisis will pass, and the "merits" will remain, who knows, maybe after the pandemic it will be possible to go to work and not go out, grants will cover everything and even multiply !!! laughing
    1. dirk182
      dirk182 April 7 2020 16: 03 New
      0
      but what all-propalschiki?) there is a discussion of what to do if just the liberals come to power! Tereshkova, at the request of Kiriyenko, voiced the idea of ​​"zeroing" the deadlines. Putin had nowhere to go when Mironov began to assent to the "Constitutional Court for zeroing." Kiriyenko is a master of defaults. One economic one has already fulfilled. Now, apparently, I got a political task. There is a serious struggle between the elites. Someone reels fishing rods, someone is going to jerk to the end. The oligarchs have already asked Mishustin to simplify the procedure for dismissing workers. Are you all "ha-ha"? FAS asks to raise the gas price from July 1 by 3%. Isn't it a feast during the plague and the rocking of the boat So you send your slogans upstairs, and not "tremble" here.
  • To be or not to be
    To be or not to be April 7 2020 11: 57 New
    0
    On "self-isolation" I watched the film "Godunov" .. there is shown the Time of Troubles in Russia
    See - how this is done by foreigners in Russia with the help of local district princes and what it leads to ..
    Say it! And more than once .. (http://loveread.ec/contents.php?id=75253)
    And do not Russian trouble ...
    The West is just waiting for the start of a Russian violent riot. ..
  • fleks
    fleks April 7 2020 12: 14 New
    +1
    And what spells help?
  • Leshy1975
    Leshy1975 April 7 2020 16: 14 New
    +3
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    The country is falling into turmoil
    Do not wait! angry

    What do you mean do not wait? If the trouble has already begun and the preconditions have developed even today, but much earlier.
    Look at the Time of Troubles or Time of Troubles - the period in the history of Russia from 1598 to 1613, marked by natural disasters, Polish-Swedish intervention, grave state-political and socio-economic crisis
    Well, on the socio-economic crisis, I won’t even stop, it is raging worse than the rest. And most see and feel it (by example)
    But some other aspects that have appeared relatively recently are very revealing.
    Or do you think that an unconstitutional coup is not part of the turmoil?
    Or here it is first (source Rossiyskaya Gazeta): Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin criticized the decision of a number of regions to close their administrative borders due to the spread of coronavirus infection. is he asked not to confuse regional powers with federal ...
    But there were also excesses. A number of subjects of the Federation closed their borders. “The government’s signals about the inadmissibility of such measures were heard - the situation improved over the weekend,” Mishustin stated.
    And then this answer (TASS source): GROZNY, April 6. / TASS /. The head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, said that he did not close the borders of the region for transit transit, food, medicine and equipment. He wrote about this on his channel in Telegram.
    However, he stated that in connection with the prevailing situation with the spread of coronavirus citizens who do not have a residence permit will not be allowed into the republic.
    "Of course, we will not let people without registration in the Chechen Republic... We already have negative experience. They brought in an infection, dozens got sick, one woman died, "he wrote.
    Kadyrov also noted that there are republican and district headquarters in the region, and hot lines have been opened. By citizens' calls, food and medicine are delivered to the house. According to him, about 40 thousand families have already received 100 thousand loaves of bread, 3 thousand cans of honey, 100 tons of tomatoes, 6 thousand lemons.

    But it’s interesting, in return, Moscow will let the inhabitants of the Chechen Republic come to itself?
    Do I think that Kadyrov or Mishustin is wrong? I do not know. There is no clear order from the center (instead, there is criticism and requests), there is nothing to compare with. Kadyrov does what he thinks will be better for residents of the Czech Republic. As I understand it, they even provide food assistance. The other owners of the Russian passport have so far been ordered not to let go. Well, you can only be glad for the inhabitants of the Chechen Republic, their leadership really takes care of them.
    But just how much does all this have to do with a single country, with uniform laws?
    Are we not all equal anymore?
    And will each region survive now by itself?
    By virtue of its capabilities?

    Well, and how soon, other heads of regions will also begin to take on more independence and courage, if only to provide their own region and how soon they will ask a question, but the fig needs such a center? When he has responsibility and no resources (that the Czech Republic will have more resources than many others, this is no secret for a long time). So then, too, can close the region and provide only its own, and the center, according to the example of the Czech Republic, also send the forest? And stop sending the center so urgently needed resources in the region?
    You must understand that at first it is precisely the single legal field that breaks up. When compliance with the Constitution, the implementation of federal laws becomes no longer mandatory and there will be nothing for anyone.
    And then, gradually disintegration begins in other areas, of course, the next one is economic.
    And only then there will be what you said
    Do not wait!

    You mean the "hot" phase - street tests and defiance? Well, everything is moving according to the natural development of processes (and some people laughed at V.I.Lenin).


    PS So, Annushka, ALREADY shed oil. hi
  • nekromonger
    nekromonger April 7 2020 16: 35 New
    +1
    we don’t need such a state and people don’t lift a finger to save it, puten crap everything and everyone in our country (essno except for his friends from the lake cooperative)
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 7 2020 20: 04 New
      +1
      And now people are mostly sitting in quarantine - self-isolation according to modern realities, and after all this is stopped they will be heavily occupied with the work of restoring their business, looking for work, etc. - no one will care about your impulses in absolute words - in fact they are empty.
  • 9PA
    9PA April 7 2020 07: 49 New
    -4
    It’s just a mnogohodovochka, not everyone can understand
    1. mark1
      mark1 April 7 2020 07: 55 New
      13
      With such a multi-pathway (in three pines) you can finally get lost ...
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 April 7 2020 10: 27 New
        10
        ≈ Hello, the Kremlin? I would like to work in the government!
        ≈ Are you crazy?
        ≈ Is this a prerequisite?
    2. Astartes
      Astartes April 7 2020 13: 39 New
      -2
      Quote: 9PA
      It’s just a mnogohodovochka, not everyone can understand

      If it is a diagnosis, consult your doctor
    3. Chervonny
      Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 20 New
      18
      Quote: 9PA
      It’s just a mnogohodovochka, not everyone can understand

      This multi-path can lead the country to a bad development of the situation. Life is not a chessboard.
      1. dirk182
        dirk182 April 7 2020 16: 06 New
        -3
        You're right. No matter how I treat the President now, he can only stop this bacchanalia. Our locomotive is racing downhill at an alarming rate. I think he understands, since he allowed the FSO to use military equipment.
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Obi-Wan Kenobi April 7 2020 07: 52 New
    17
    And where did all the goofies go?
    Where are the laudatory odes to King Pu?
    Quickly put everything on the site and protect the king-priest from the attacks of the population, which in one week became a poor agent of the State Department!
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 April 7 2020 08: 20 New
      14
      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      And where did all the goofies go?

      Their fingers are busy with backing tracks.
    2. Mestny
      Mestny April 7 2020 09: 47 New
      -18
      Now the clown dances will end - normal people will catch up.
      In the meantime, have fun.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 7 2020 09: 59 New
        14
        Quote: Mestny
        normal people will catch up.

        The root in the word normal is NORM. And as you know, everyone has their own. wink With your norm, the country slowly but surely rolls into oblivion. To hell with her economy - look at the birth rate. The Russians are dying off at such a pace that in 50 years less than half will be. Here is your norm. negative
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 April 7 2020 10: 14 New
          +3
          By the way. Have you seen that in China for several years now the population has been wearing masks protecting respiratory organs? The fact is that in China there is no sick leave — you get sick — you sit without money until you recover or you are simply fired. But even the fact that they are generally always masked for them did not help much at the beginning of the COVID-19 epidemic.
          1. Chervonny
            Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 21 New
            17
            Quote: Snail N9
            in China there are no sick-sick-sit without money

            And where is China? Have we already become part of China? Or do you propose finally destroying the last that is good of the Soviet government?
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 April 7 2020 13: 37 New
          -5
          There is no need to whistle in the 90s every month 150000 more died than were born now for the whole year 240000 more dies than were born - but at the same time the number of abortions has decreased five times, so "At such a rate that in 50 years less than half will be" - do not fantasize.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 April 7 2020 23: 20 New
            0
            Quote: Vadim237
            so "At such a rate that in 50 years less than half will be" - do not fantasize.

            Again, freak Vadik. They didn’t teach mathematics at school. The rate of decline in Russian regions, multiply by 50 years. The forecast will be even worse.
        3. your1970
          your1970 April 7 2020 14: 34 New
          -2
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          The Russians are dying off at such a pace that in 50 years less than half will be. Here is your norm.

          What is the country where at least four children are in families ....
          The post-industrial world when an iPhone is more interesting and children are much needed .... alas, everywhere ....
          And even if you give a million for a child and pay mothers a salary, it won’t help ....
          1. dirk182
            dirk182 April 7 2020 16: 10 New
            +1
            I won’t say anything about four, but in the USA ...... https: //countrymeters.info/United_States_of_America_ (USA) take a look yourself and not a word more. OK?
            1. your1970
              your1970 April 7 2020 17: 26 New
              +2
              USA? Hmm, why are you there? A child born in the United States automatically becomes a US citizen. Not a Green Card is real citizenship right away, and parents receive long-term residence permits until they come of age.
              Do you think Mexico does not know this?
              Everything is simple and boring, tomorrow depriving Mexico of such an opportunity and the birth rate in the United States will fall in half .....
              1. dirk182
                dirk182 April 7 2020 18: 40 New
                +1
                did not you see the "migration" column?
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 April 7 2020 23: 09 New
            -2
            Quote: your1970
            Name the country where at least four children are in families.

            Compare the birth rate in Europe, with their homosexual-liberal views, and in the Russian regions of our country.
        4. dirk182
          dirk182 April 7 2020 16: 07 New
          +1
          in January-February the natural decrease of 80 thousand people (((
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 April 7 2020 20: 08 New
            +1
            Let's see what will happen at the end of the year - new payments for children have just been introduced, like matcapital.
      2. Chervonny
        Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 21 New
        16
        Quote: Mestny
        Now the clown dances will end - normal people will catch up.
        In the meantime, have fun.

        That is, you do not consider yourself normal?
  • Sunstorm
    Sunstorm April 7 2020 07: 52 New
    -13
    Sorry, I will be very rude. 1) Are you going to mobilize a broad mass of people in a pandemic? 2) Putin's Russia, do you have a spare alternative? 3) Have you gathered in all of Russia to apply the same measures to combat the virus?
    And then I read the author. Sorry, but the author’s name is obviously worth writing at the beginning of the opus.
    1. mark2
      mark2 April 7 2020 08: 12 New
      -10
      As removed from the tongue. Authorship of articles should be indicated at the beginning, so as not to be considered. Better yet, in the top news in parentheses.
    2. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi April 7 2020 08: 12 New
      22
      Quote: Sunstorm
      3) Have you gathered in all of Russia to apply the same measures to combat the virus?

      Laponka. There are no other measures in the world to combat epidemics other than strict quarantine. With complete isolation of the source of infection. That's just not invented by another and that's it. And when we have kakbe quarantine, and you can easily get it from MSC to Vladik, this is not a fight against the virus, this is an imitation of violent activity, only worsening the situation.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 7 2020 10: 03 New
        +9
        Quote: Lannan Shi
        There are no other measures in the world to combat epidemics other than strict quarantine.

        There is. Ignoring the "pandemic". This is what Belarus and Sweden did. And as statistics show, mortality has not increased there. This means that the coronavirus is "bloated". No, people of course die, but not more, every year from different strains of flu. hi
        1. Chervonny
          Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 22 New
          14
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Ignoring the "pandemic". This is what Belarus and Sweden did.

          I do not agree with you. Ignoring can lead to not very good consequences. The coronavirus epidemic must be fought. In my beloved China, isolation defeated the epidemic.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 April 7 2020 23: 15 New
            +1
            Quote: Red
            In my beloved China, isolation defeated the epidemic.

            Isolation will reduce any epidemic, including flu. But the question is - how terrible is the devil, how is he painted? I mean that countries that did not impose quarantine have no higher mortality rates. hi
            1. oprovergatel
              oprovergatel April 9 2020 18: 03 New
              0
              Come on!

              Information for today, at this time, is taken from the interactive map of Yandex in the tab for Coronavirus.

              Russia
              Infections: 10 131
              Recovery: 698
              Deaths: 76
              Population: 146,8 million
              First case detected: January 31, 2020

              Sweden
              Infections: 9 141
              Recovery: 205
              [b] Deaths: 793
              Population: 10,3 million
              First case detected: February 15, 2020

              Belarus
              Infections: 1 066
              Recovery: 77
              Deaths: 13
              Population: 9,5 million
              First case detected: February 28, 2020

              Here from Sweden they wrote a couple of days ago, those who live there:

              “The number of deaths from coronavirus in Stockholm is so high that food refrigerators and containers have to be used to store large quantities of bodies.
              After the Swedish Public Health Agency was unable to stop the spread of the deadly coronavirus, there are more and more bodies to be buried. The death toll will soon reach 500 people, which means almost 20 times more than in Finland, where the first case of infection occurred at about the same time as in Sweden.
              After the weekend, 25 bodies were sent to the morgue of the Danderida Hospital, and another 40 to the morgue of the Karolinsky Hospital in Solna.
              “Morgue workers always prioritize the dignity and care of the deceased. But now it’s getting harder. Last week we had to work with 17 deceased people in one night instead of the usual 5-6,” says the morgue worker.

              ("Stockholm now") "

              17 dead instead of the usual 5-6, growth THREE TIMES!

              By the way, I would look at the Belarusian data very skeptically. But father said on TV that there was no epidemic in Belarus, so it couldn’t be there. If reality contradicts this, the worse for reality.
        2. your1970
          your1970 April 7 2020 14: 39 New
          -1
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Sweden. And as statistics show, mortality there has not increased. AND

          And therefore, the population of Sweden makes fun of the fact that they deployed two military hospitals ..... on 20 and 30 beds !!!!!!!!
          And mortality immediately became afraid - "well, this Sweden ..." fool
          You read first what is there today......
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 April 7 2020 23: 13 New
            0
            Quote: your1970
            You read for a start what is there today ....

            AND? What is there today? Mortality is not globally higher than in Norway, Fink, Austria, etc. Are there facts with figures that everything is bad there, or do you just have to panic?
      2. Sunstorm
        Sunstorm April 8 2020 12: 10 New
        +2
        How, if you can not distort? Epidemic control measures? Vaccination? Hygiene? Self-isolation? By the way, I did not write anything against Quarantine, I say that the situation should be resolved according to local conditions, but with this "one size fits all" you will not achieve anything. In addition to raising your EGO.
    3. IL-18
      IL-18 April 7 2020 09: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: Sunstorm
      apply the same measures to fight the virus?

      Which ones? The question is different. That "self-isolation" as a measure cannot be effective initially. Is that for 2-3 days, while a quarantine or emergency is being organized. A long period of "self-isolation", one fig, hits the economy as a whole, and the individual citizen (taxpayer) in particular. And if the country has already suffered losses from the measures taken, then the introduction of quarantine or emergencies in the future will already have consequences not even tough, but cruel.
      1. Sunstorm
        Sunstorm April 8 2020 12: 12 New
        0
        And what you should decide not you, not me, but experts, taking into account the peculiarities of local ones.
        1. IL-18
          IL-18 April 8 2020 23: 37 New
          0
          I have a medical background. Higher. And looking at ginger-eaters with lemon, at fools in masks on the street, watering with antiseptics in cities, stupid people looking for any opportunity to buy antibiotics, etc., but discussing methods of dealing with the pandemic caused by VIRUS, I lose hope of salvation from not the biggest problem. There is only one way: to gain time until ideally stable immunity in the majority of the population. Those. isolation, treatment of the sick, if you're lucky - vaccination.
    4. dirk182
      dirk182 April 7 2020 16: 13 New
      0
      what nonsense you write!
      in a pandemic
      Pandemic (Greek πανδημία - the whole nation) is an epidemic characterized by the spread of an infectious disease throughout the country, the territory of neighboring states, and sometimes many countries of the world.
      to mobilize the masses of people?
      Can you handle it on your own ?!
      Are you going to use the same measures throughout Russia to combat the virus?
      no, of course, some with garlic, some with alcohol, some with a cross. Lord, where are you so unique from?
      1. Sunstorm
        Sunstorm April 8 2020 12: 15 New
        0
        Quote: dirk182
        Pandemic (Greek πανδημία - the whole nation) is an epidemic characterized by the spread of an infectious disease throughout the country, the territory of neighboring states, and sometimes many countries of the world.

        And how would that be wrong? What is the country of the world where people are not nervous because of the coronovirus? Or are you so sure that he is not on the whole territory of any particular country?
        Quote: dirk182
        Can you handle it on your own ?!

        No, and I do not plan, in such a situation, mass gatherings are contraindicated, as it were .. this was sarcasm.
        Quote: dirk182
        no, of course, some with garlic, some with alcohol, some with a cross. Lord, where are you so unique from?

        from there, where are you from, apparently, in an hour not one of those that towers 5g because of the threat of a coronovirus?
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Obi-Wan Kenobi April 7 2020 07: 56 New
    +2
    Also, in the conditions of the collapse of the world economy and the existence model of an “energy power”, it is necessary to solve the problem of providing the population with basic necessities, food.

    Power, except how to steal and rob their people, knows nothing more.
    1. mark2
      mark2 April 7 2020 08: 13 New
      -12
      Why is the people silent? Relaxed and enjoys having ak eoo have?
      1. mark1
        mark1 April 7 2020 08: 18 New
        +5
        But this already draws on direct incitement. Be careful, "namesake", in the heat you know what can be broken ...
  • Lannan Shi
    Lannan Shi April 7 2020 07: 56 New
    20
    The problem is that the authorities of our country are very poorly adapted to any reasonable activity. 20 years of negative selection. Selection based on loyalty, not ability. And if in a normal "peaceful" situation all this swamp somehow works, then when a crisis situation arises, it simply falls into a stupor. Well, they are not capable of creating, taking responsibility for themselves, deciding something. And the mindset does not match, and there is a total lack of courage. They simply do not want and cannot work. Benefit from the position? This is always the case. Work? Not us. And the deserted governors are the most striking example of this.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 7 2020 13: 46 New
      -6
      Here's how you find another: strong, fit with rational activity - then come in.
    2. your1970
      your1970 April 7 2020 14: 43 New
      -1
      Quote: Lannan Shi
      Selection by the principle of fidelity, not ability

      But Kalinin and Voroshilov were not selected on the same principle ??? Or were they able to build and take responsibility ?????
      1. Chervonny
        Chervonny April 7 2020 23: 12 New
        12
        Quote: your1970
        But Kalinin and Voroshilov were not selected on the same principle ???

        No.
        Quote: your1970
        Or they were able to build and take responsibility

        Yes, and created, and took responsibility. Read at least their biographies.
        1. your1970
          your1970 April 9 2020 11: 28 New
          0
          Quote: Red
          , and created, and took responsibility. Read at least their biographies.

          Read ... mediocrity, failed everything for what was not taken .... postponed by the results of all to nominal posts ...
          But TRUE .......
    3. Sunstorm
      Sunstorm April 8 2020 12: 19 New
      +3
      Quote: Lannan Shi
      Selection by the principle of fidelity, not ability.

      Sorry, but where else? And when was it different? What did Napoleon reward with kingdoms not for personal devotion, but for talents such as his brother? You know, if you just take a history book to look through, then you will find a lot of cases. By the way, the USSR is no exception, take at least Khrushchev, according to his abilities, he quite deserved to be shot during the years of the Second World War, however .... he became Stalin’s receiver. And how many representatives of the headquarters were not too talented but sincerely loyal? Or maybe you want to remember the Bolsheviks of the civil war?
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 April 8 2020 14: 31 New
        0
        Quote: Sunstorm
        Sorry, but where else? And when was it different?

        How is it where? In fairy tales, naturally.
        Knowing that many wrote about this, I fear that I would not be considered presumptuous because, having chosen the same subject, in the interpretation of it I most disagree with others. But, having the intention to write something useful for people who understand, I chose to follow the truth, not imaginary, but real - in contrast to those many who depicted republics and states, which in reality no one knew or saw.
        For the distance between how people live and how they should live is so great that one who rejects the reality for the sake of action acts more to the detriment of himself than to the good, because, wishing to profess good in all cases of life, he will inevitably die when faced with a lot of people alien to good.
        ("Sovereign")
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Obi-Wan Kenobi April 7 2020 07: 59 New
    +5
    Yes, at least get me angry!
    The author is 100% right! Well done!
    + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
    1. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka April 7 2020 08: 05 New
      -14
      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      The author is 100% right! Well done!

      in what right, in the place of nonsense about the sowing season or where does it lie that they did not cancel the penalty for late public utilities?
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 7 2020 10: 19 New
        10
        Quote: Barmaleyka
        that did not cancel the penalty for late public utilities?

        Yes, it was canceled, but it’s a populism of power, because the penalties in the housing and communal services have always been cheap. And if you come to the Housing Office, they will always meet there, and with full repayment of the debt, penalties will be written off. request
        1. Barmaleyka
          Barmaleyka April 7 2020 11: 31 New
          +1
          canceled badly not canceled badly
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 April 7 2020 11: 55 New
            +3
            Quote: Barmaleyka
            canceled badly not canceled badly

            Will it become easier for you when they give you candy wrappers instead of candy? wink With measures to support people in the EU and the US comparable?
            1. Barmaleyka
              Barmaleyka April 7 2020 12: 19 New
              -6
              well let's compare
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 April 7 2020 12: 29 New
                +8
                The French government pledged to pay 84% of the salary to all those who were forced to be unemployed. A moratorium on mortgage payments has been introduced in Spain.
                In the United States allocated 2 trillion. dollars to provide people.
                And we have? And in our apartment there is gas! The list of companies that will receive government support includes a bookmaker. laughing
                1. Barmaleyka
                  Barmaleyka April 7 2020 13: 30 New
                  -5
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  The French government pledged to pay 84% of the salary to all those who were forced to be unemployed.

                  you do not work and you are not paid a salary of 100%?
                2. Barmaleyka
                  Barmaleyka April 7 2020 13: 32 New
                  -3
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  In the United States allocated 2 trillion. dollars to provide people.

                  you propose to print 2 trillion. ruble and hand out to the afflicted?
                  By the way, for the sake of interest, calculate how much each mattress will receive.
                3. Sunstorm
                  Sunstorm April 8 2020 12: 23 New
                  +1
                  2trl .. how much will you forgive citizens?) And now they gave it out in cash?) "So, citizens with an annual income of up to $ 75 thousand should receive direct payments in the amount of $ 1,2 thousand,"
                  How many of them are there?) And what will remain of the rest?) Have you forgotten that there are elections in the USA?)
                4. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 April 8 2020 14: 33 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  In the United States allocated 2 trillion. dollars to provide people.

                  US government intends to highlight 2,2 trillion dollars. Earlier in America there were no such large support programs.
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 April 8 2020 20: 59 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    intends to allocate 2,2 trillion dollars.

                    The US Senate has already passed the bill.
    2. AAK
      AAK April 7 2020 08: 59 New
      +2
      ... even TV commercials have disappeared in recent days "in support of the Constitution 2.0." in addition to supporting the guarantee of medicine ... Well, the people and the government are under the tsar, in the USSR, in the current Russian Federation they always live on different planets
      1. Chervonny
        Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 23 New
        17
        Quote: AAK
        even from TV ads in recent days, videos "in support of the Constitution 2.0 have disappeared."

        Just for a week. Now again, ads in support began to show.
  • Pacifist
    Pacifist April 7 2020 08: 00 New
    -19
    All-prophetic nonsense of some kind.
    1. kepmor
      kepmor April 7 2020 08: 40 New
      14
      God forbid that this was really nonsense ... I just FOR ...
      let's see how and with what people will go out of self-isolation ... will there be enough for everyone jobs or vacancies at labor exchanges ... and everyone or only the chosen ones will have the money for ordinary grub ...
      the most important thing is that the process of self-isolation would not smoothly pass into the process of self-zeroing for the population ... we then know that self-zeroing self-zeroing discord ...
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 April 7 2020 12: 08 New
      -5
      Quote: Pacifist
      this makes no sense.

      Yes, OK. Moreover, a good half of the "target audience" is now on a special glass, not counting those who are in life or work (trololo, etc.). So Samsonov today "entered successfully" - from the outside, this whole orgy looks very funny.yes laughing hi
  • knn54
    knn54 April 7 2020 08: 01 New
    21
    Self-isolation is the decision of the person himself, but at the same time, the fine is paid. That is, the SELF-elimination of the state, because under quarantine the state itself is responsible. The prospect is terrible - the growth of alcoholism, depression, scandals, suicide, even murder. Especially in communal apartments.
    People will run out of money. Robberies and even pogroms will begin. And then there is the expansion of local authority.
    The state falls into ... Suicide.
  • GUSAR
    GUSAR April 7 2020 08: 03 New
    +7
    The author of course writes everything correctly, but does not say who is to blame specifically for this whole mess. Does he have a surname?
    1. Mestny
      Mestny April 7 2020 09: 50 New
      -15
      Well, of course, tell me.
      Better yet, do whatever you want, and we'll see - what if you really are for all the good?
      And then you can only use a dirty tongue.
      1. Chervonny
        Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 23 New
        16
        Quote: Mestny
        what if you really are for all the good?
        And then you can only use a dirty tongue.

        Gaspadin Mestny, I understand that self-criticism is a good thing, of course, but why are you so private to yourself?
  • I
    I April 7 2020 08: 03 New
    -13
    ,, need ideology, lofty goals and ,,

    What is the ideology? Communist? Are we building crazy communism again?
    Any more or less healthy person understands that it is impossible to build communism. This is just a fantasy and a dream. This idea is slipped to people to achieve their purely mercantile goals of seizing power.

    We need to learn to live in what we have. To introduce the same progressive tax, that is, reduce the tax to the poor to zero and increase the tax to the rich. Now they’ll immediately say about offshore, etc. But this is a tax problem. Moreover, Mishustin is in the subject. So let it work.
    1. Far B
      Far B April 7 2020 08: 27 New
      +3
      We need to learn to live in what we have.
      Millions of toilet flies will confirm. laughing
      1. I
        I April 7 2020 08: 32 New
        -16
        ,, Millions of toilet flies will confirm. laughing ,,

        Whose will you be? Lenin-worshiper of the West, or the West Singer?
      2. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 10: 28 New
        -19
        And the toilet flies, which are abundant on the site, except for shit, are not able to see anything fundamentally.
        1. Chervonny
          Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 25 New
          20
          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          And the toilet flies, which are abundant on the site, except for shit, are not able to see anything fundamentally.

          Self-criticism on the site today is just off scale. Well done Ivanovlaughing
      3. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 7 2020 13: 50 New
        -3
        Do not confirm - your slammed in the 90s.
    2. tatra
      tatra April 7 2020 08: 57 New
      15
      Communism for the communists is the same "mythical ideology" as for you, the enemies of the communists, democracy, freedom of speech, human rights, liberalism. None of this has been and will not be. BUT, if the Soviet communists had a real ideology of positive, constructive, truly patriotic, when people felt involvement with their country and the people of the people, then you, the enemies of the communists who seized the republics of the USSR, have a real ideology - evil, aggressive, destructive, cowardly, selfish, parasitic consumer. You can never build a normal state on such an ideology.
      1. I
        I April 7 2020 09: 35 New
        -10
        “Communism for the communists is the same" mythical ideology "as for you, the enemies of the communists — democracy, freedom of speech, human rights, liberalism. None of this has been and will not be. ,,

        Now, you see, you all perfectly understand that this is nonsense. Any ideology, no matter what people come up with, will be utter lies and nonsense.
        1. tatra
          tatra April 7 2020 09: 39 New
          11
          I, in my opinion, explained everything popularly. But the enemies of the Communists are unbreakable in their manic passion for stupid, senseless criticism. And they are never capable of elementary discussions, and always blame others for what they do themselves ..
          1. I
            I April 7 2020 09: 46 New
            -14
            Have you built communism in 70 years? And how many people were destroyed in order to build communism? Bloody regime than communist mankind did not know
          2. Sunstorm
            Sunstorm April 8 2020 12: 26 New
            +3
            You kind of wrote nonsense. From the series "it's not me, he was the first to start"
            Quote: tatra
            But the enemies of the Communists are unbreakable in their manic passion for stupid, senseless criticism. And they are never capable of elementary discussions, and always blame others for what they do themselves ..
            As you can see, you are very well and fruitfully participating in the discussions; most importantly, your arguments are just wonderful ... Sarcasm.
      2. I
        I April 7 2020 09: 43 New
        -1
        You need to live according to conscience, not ideology
        1. tatra
          tatra April 7 2020 09: 50 New
          +8
          Anti-communism and conscience are incompatible concepts. To be an enemy of the communists in the world, you have to be a person devoid of conscience, a pathological liar, a hypocrite with a mental inclination to slanderous accusations of people for crimes, and a categorical refusal to admit guilt for their own crimes. Therefore, among the enemies of the communists who seized the USSR, ideology is a slander about what the Soviet communists did, and a cowardly whine that they themselves "had nothing to do with what they themselves did" both under Soviet power and after their seizure USSR, and to responsibility for the seizure and dismemberment of the USSR. Therefore, in your answer I did not find any arguments in defense of your ideology, enemies of the communists.
          1. I
            I April 7 2020 10: 10 New
            -7
            ,, Anti-communism and conscience are incompatible concepts. ,,

            Communism is a lie. A lie and conscience are incompatible concepts. So communism and conscience are also incompatible concepts.
            1. tatra
              tatra April 7 2020 10: 17 New
              +7
              Ha, thanks for proving my words. If the communists and their supporters had ideology and is FOR, and then even AGAINST, then the enemies of the communists, both under Soviet rule, after the capture of the USSR, ideology is always AGAINST. And always, when they write about YOU, you rush to malice against the communists and their supporters, to all accusations against YOU, you answer according to the cowardly principle of "defending yourself by attacking others." You yourself proved that you are a priori incapable of creating a normal state, economy, ideology. All the best, there is no point in communicating with you anymore.
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 April 7 2020 10: 42 New
                -10
                Quote: tatra
                If the Communists and their supporters ideology was and is FOR, and then AGAINST, then

                Well, where is your communism? Built?
                1. tatra
                  tatra April 7 2020 11: 40 New
                  +6
                  Ha, well, here is AGAIN the proof of my words that the enemies of the Communists have only a dumb, irrational AGAINST, and never do anything FOR YOURSELF, For what you yourself have done. In addition, you have nothing and no one good, useful FOR your country and people. And with all this, you also seriously thought that more than the Communists and their supporters, they are worthy and capable of owning the country.
                  1. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 April 7 2020 12: 07 New
                    -5
                    Quote: tatra
                    Ha, well, here is AGAIN the proof of my words that the enemies of the Communists have only a dumb, irrational AGAINST, and never anything for themselves, FOR that

                    So built or not?
                2. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 April 7 2020 13: 53 New
                  -3
                  In the same place as everything else - in the trash of history.
          2. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 11: 37 New
            -8
            Excuse me, didn’t the Communists ruin the Soviet Union? Gorbachev, Yakovlev, Shevardnadze, Yeltsin are not Communists. Or were they members of the NSDAP? In a good way, the Communists from the authorities had to be turned back in the late 70s, with a complete ban on holding them responsible posts in the future. Then the Power would be whole.
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 April 7 2020 12: 09 New
              -3
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              Excuse me, didn’t the Communists ruin the Soviet Union? Gorbachev, Yakovlev, Shevardnadze, Yeltsin are not Communists. Or were they members of the NSDAP?

              According to some, some forces seized power instead of communists. It’s true that no one can explain what these forces were.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 April 7 2020 14: 01 New
                -1
                They say that they were party tickets bought by the CIA and agents of influence in all the expanses of the USSR and Gorbachev was put in charge under cover - the shape-shifting communists must somehow justify themselves "We didn't do this - they did it"
                1. AU Ivanov.
                  AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 14: 29 New
                  -6
                  So the price of the party whose members you can buy is worthless, is it not?
            2. Chervonny
              Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 27 New
              16
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              Is not the Soviet Union destroyed?

              The USSR was destroyed by your beloved liberals, nationalists, democrats of various stripes and other shifters.
              1. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 14: 30 New
                -6
                In the USSR were liberals and nationalists in power? It seems that the commies were in charge of everything and all the questions about the collapse of the country - to them.
          3. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 11: 39 New
            -11
            I would say: communists and conscience are incompatible concepts.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 April 7 2020 20: 12 New
              +1
              A communist in Russia is in politics a one hundred percent corpse or a mummy like Uncle Zu.
          4. Sunstorm
            Sunstorm April 8 2020 12: 27 New
            +3
            Quote: tatra
            Anti-communism and conscience are incompatible concepts. To be an enemy of the communists in the world, you have to be a person devoid of conscience, a pathological liar, a hypocrite with a mental inclination to slanderous accusations of people for crimes, and a categorical refusal to admit guilt for their own crimes. Therefore, among the enemies of the communists who seized the USSR, ideology is a slander about what the Soviet communists did, and a cowardly whine that they themselves "had nothing to do with what they themselves did" both under Soviet power and after their seizure USSR, and to responsibility for the seizure and dismemberment of the USSR. Therefore, in your answer I did not find any arguments in defense of your ideology, enemies of the communists.

            Those who elected Khrushchev and Gorbachev..Gaydar and Yeltsin .. deceitful or bribed communists ... Do you understand that you yourself spit in the USSR now?
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 April 8 2020 14: 35 New
              +1
              Quote: Sunstorm
              Do you understand that now you yourself spitfully in the USSR spat?

              And they do it all the time, but don’t notice until someone pokes their nose.
    3. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN April 7 2020 09: 26 New
      13
      Quote: it's me
      ,, need ideology, lofty goals and ,,

      What is the ideology? Communist? Are we building crazy communism again?
      Any more or less healthy person understands that it is impossible to build communism. This is just a fantasy and a dream. This idea is slipped to people to achieve their purely mercantile goals of seizing power.

      We need to learn to live in what we have. To introduce the same progressive tax, that is, reduce the tax to the poor to zero and increase the tax to the rich. Now they’ll immediately say about offshore, etc. But this is a tax problem. Moreover, Mishustin is in the subject. So let it work.

      If the word "communism" confuses you, call it "welfare state."
      In any case, to get out of the swamp it is necessary to nationalize the bowels and large enterprises, agricultural lands and complexes, banks and medicine ... The state monopoly on vodka, tobacco and medicines.
      Well, and most importantly, it is to return to the people stolen and stolen during privatization and after abroad and offshore.
      1. I
        I April 7 2020 09: 55 New
        -8
        “If the word“ communism ”confuses you, call it“ social state ”. ,,

        Nothing bothers me. Simply, any ideology is false and does not cost a single drop of spilled human blood.
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN April 7 2020 11: 06 New
          +4
          Quote: it's me
          “If the word“ communism ”confuses you, call it“ social state ”. ,,

          Nothing bothers me. Simply, any ideology is false and does not cost a single drop of spilled human blood.

          What is your way out in this situation?
          1. Sunstorm
            Sunstorm April 8 2020 12: 30 New
            +1
            Quote: Barkhan
            What is your way out in this situation?

            He wrote above. "To live according to conscience" I agree with him. Ideology is a refuge for a coward, a fool, or a scoundrel. (sorry if it's harsh) But what is ideology? A set of ready-made cliches, in which you do not need to think, you just need to believe and follow. But what about the scientific approach? Where is the human mind and free will?
      2. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 10: 33 New
        -10
        These are two big differences: communism and the welfare state. A welfare state can be capitalistic, like Norway or Switzerland, and even a monarchy, like Saudi Arabia. To social buns which even the vaunted USSR, as before Wuhan cancer.
    4. Chervonny
      Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 24 New
      15
      Quote: it's me
      What is the ideology? Communist? Are we building crazy communism again?

      Delusional, this is your comment.
      Quote: it's me
      Any more or less healthy person understands that it is impossible to build communism. This is just a fantasy and a dream.

      If you can prove, then you will become a Nobel laureate. No one in the world has yet been able to prove the opposite. Try it, and we will look at your attempts laughing
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 14: 33 New
        -3
        To prove the possibility of the existence of communism, as well as another utopia, this is the level of proof of the existence of the afterlife.
      2. Sunstorm
        Sunstorm April 8 2020 12: 32 New
        +3
        Quote: Red

        If you can prove, then you will become a Nobel laureate. No one in the world has yet been able to prove the opposite. Try it, and we will look at your attempts

        From the series to prove the existence of God .... After all, no one could prove that he does not exist. Thank you, you yourself brought communism and religion together. Both are based on faith, in unverified facts.
      3. Dart2027
        Dart2027 April 8 2020 14: 36 New
        +2
        Quote: Red
        No one in the world has yet been able to prove the opposite.

        Proven life. Smile you with your fantasies that shove wherever possible.
      4. I
        I April 8 2020 21: 21 New
        +1
        ,, If you can prove, then you will become a Nobel laureate. No one in the world has yet been able to prove the opposite. Try it, and we will look at your attempts at laughing ,,



        The fact is that the Communists themselves do not understand what communism is. And they present it as a kind of system or political system, which is fundamentally wrong.

        Communism is an ideal society of ideal people leading a moral lifestyle. In such a society, there is no theft, there is no doom and division into friends and foes, there is no parasitism and drunkenness, there is no envy and anger, etc. But each person puts the good of society and the good of other people above his own good.


        Thus, if communism were possible, then it would be possible under any state system and under any system and with any name of the head of state (president, secretary, emperor, etc.), since communism does not lie in the political plane, but in the moral plane.
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 April 9 2020 07: 00 New
          0
          Quote: it's me
          Thus, if communism were possible, then it would be possible under any state system and under any system and with any name of the head of state (president, secretary, emperor, etc.), since communism does not lie in the political plane, but in the moral plane.

          I don’t remember how many times he explained this to them.
  • viktor_ui
    viktor_ui April 7 2020 08: 04 New
    -10
    Samsonov Alexander ... honestly, it's already bored, well, right from ZERO, in the next epoch-making period of the "window of opportunity" to restore another great Russia ... this ??? With all due respect to you, well, there is no hour of the apocalypse described by you, but in my mind there is another redistribution of the accumulated property by famous dudes and other players with a contrived, REGULAR invasion of viral. Since the 90s, another pandemic, swine, avian, ebola, plague ... plague and other similar chewing gum on our head. Constantly at the same time with ritual screams with concern for the fate of citizens in power. Those who are destined to burn will definitely not drown. If they put the economy down - welcome to our native 90s - it will be another plague from the authorities on our heads.
  • parusnik
    parusnik April 7 2020 08: 04 New
    12
    Somehow everything is in a bunch ... From decay to rebirth. smile
  • Barmaleyka
    Barmaleyka April 7 2020 08: 04 New
    -11
    As a result, the country began to experience economic and transport collapse amid defeat in the gas and oil war.
    ???? But can the author name signs of defeat?
    No freezing on utility bills
    well this is frank nonsense
    The threat of crop failure has been created.
    the author you were on earth for a long time?
    people work in full plow sow process
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir April 7 2020 10: 07 New
      +5
      How unexpectedly you "woke up"!
      1. Barmaleyka
        Barmaleyka April 7 2020 10: 09 New
        -8
        this is what and what ?!
        1. Barmaleyka
          Barmaleyka April 7 2020 11: 32 New
          -10
          that’s the whole answer, that is, if I could just poke, the descendants of the Germans-Yavlinsky, are there any offers?
          the government has only two schools in this situation, it was necessary at the beginning of March to close the border on exit and complete strict quarantine for ALL entering
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 April 7 2020 08: 12 New
    +2
    The nationalization of the financial system, the nationalization of land, subsurface resources, waters, forests and strategic enterprises is necessary. And for this, we need ideology, high goals and a program for the long-term development of the country and society.
    I do not quite understand what all this has to do with the fight against the epidemic.
    However, I remembered the Soviet edition of the novel "The War of the Worlds" where, in addition to the work, there was an article by some critic, which, among other things, said that the old society died in the war because it was devoted to false ideals. That is, if it were socialist, then the scientific and technical advantage of the Martians would not help them?
    1. Caretaker
      Caretaker April 7 2020 08: 58 New
      15
      Quote: Dart2027
      I remembered the Soviet edition of the novel "The War of the Worlds" where, in addition to the work, there was an article by some critic, which, among other things, said that the old society died in the war because it was devoted to false ideals. That is, if it were socialist, then the scientific and technical advantage of the Martians would not help them?

      The other day there was a transmission about smallpox infection in Moscow (1960).
      They talked about measures to identify the source and all who could contact, down to things in the commission. Over 5 days, 7 million people were vaccinated. How this was possible I can not imagine.
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 April 7 2020 09: 43 New
        -2
        Quote: Caretaker
        How this was possible I can not imagine.

        Maybe they did it on paper, but in life it’s unlikely. Not everything was bad in the USSR, but now they are starting to idealize it as something fabulous.
        1. Caretaker
          Caretaker April 7 2020 10: 08 New
          +7
          Quote: Dart2027
          Not everything was bad in the USSR

          Perhaps it is more appropriate to formulate: "There were shortcomings in the USSR"?
          Remember, "The glass is half full or half empty"?
          Quote: Dart2027
          ... Maybe they did it on paper, but in life it’s unlikely.

          Do not hesitate, probably spent as much as planned. We found out that it’s not realistic to find everyone through the fifth or seventh contact and decided to vaccinate all residents of Moscow and possible regions proactively, it’s cheaper and easier in terms of organization.
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 April 7 2020 10: 40 New
            -4
            Quote: Caretaker
            Perhaps it is more appropriate to formulate: "There were shortcomings in the USSR"?

            And what is changing?
            Quote: Caretaker
            it's cheaper and easier organizationally

            Of course, anything is possible, but something I doubt.
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir April 7 2020 10: 05 New
        +6
        [quoteк. How this was possible I can not imagine. [/ Quote] Totalitarianism.
        1. Chervonny
          Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 27 New
          21
          Quote: Gardamir
          totalitarianism

          There was an interesting totalitarianism. Everything for the people, everything for the people.
      3. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 11: 31 New
        -9
        This was possible due to the fact that an effective vaccine against smallpox was known since the 18th century. And to instill seven million is not a problem, the main thing would be what.
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 April 7 2020 11: 39 New
          +2
          And here by the way interesting information to think about COVID-19:
          The artist Nadezhda Babkina was taken to a medical institution on April 1. The decision to introduce her into a coma was made not because of the severe course of the disease, but for the effective operation of the ventilator.

          The doctors decided to put the singer into a state of medical coma and connect to a ventilator against the background of extensive bilateral pneumonia. This information was shared by a source "MK".

          The condition of the singer is assessed as stably severe, but has a positive dynamics. As for Babkina’s tests for coronavirus, they showed a negative result.

          Earlier, Channel Five reported that Babkin was taken to one of Moscow's private clinics. The doctors diagnosed her with pneumonia. According to the artist's son, the diagnosis of COVID-19 after the passed test was not confirmed.

          https://nation-news.ru/513852-nadezhdu-babkinu-vveli-v-sostoyanie-iskusstvennoi-komy-soobshchili-smi
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 11: 44 New
            -5
            Is pneumonia only caused by COVID 19? Pneumococci, streptococci, staphylococci and other bacteria, viruses and fungi already coronovirus canceled?
        2. Caretaker
          Caretaker April 7 2020 11: 54 New
          +8
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          А instill seven million no problem, the main thing would be what.

          Joke, please. This is currently not possible.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 11: 59 New
            -9
            More are now being vaccinated against flu. In St. Petersburg, at each metro station there were mobile treatment rooms, during the period of the flu surge and they traveled to enterprises. Unfortunately, vaccination was voluntary. I do not have information on how many doses of the vaccine have been used in the country, but I suspect that more than one million.
            1. Caretaker
              Caretaker April 7 2020 12: 29 New
              +6
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              Unfortunately, vaccination was voluntary. I do not have information on how many doses of the vaccine have been used in the country, but I suspect that more than one million.

              We are talking about the possibility in Moscow and the nearest regions to vaccinate 7 in five days, and not throughout the country in a few months. It was unlikely that this was possible on a voluntary basis, but the danger was several orders of magnitude higher.
              1. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 12: 35 New
                -6
                Moscow has more opportunities than in the outback.
                1. Caretaker
                  Caretaker April 7 2020 13: 07 New
                  +4
                  Quote: AS Ivanov.
                  Moscow has more opportunities than in the outback.

                  In modern Moscow, they have not yet been able to realize the opportunities. I will not be mistaken if I assume that most of the sources of infection in Moscow are non-poor and nonsense people. Unmeasured contingent does not accept half measures.
                  1. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 13: 35 New
                    -3
                    And, what against the coronovirus has already appeared an effective vaccine, such as anti-inflammatory? And do not compare blackpox with a mortality rate of 40% and coronovirus.
                    1. Caretaker
                      Caretaker April 7 2020 14: 26 New
                      +1
                      It’s not a vaccine, but isolation. In the desire and opportunity to take effective measures at an early stage.
                      The sources should have been sent to compulsory isolation, not to "self-isolation." But where to send? Measures are currently being taken that should have been taken before the danger arose. We are also lucky that there is some head start in front of other countries and the backlog of the Soviet health care system.
                2. Chervonny
                  Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 28 New
                  14
                  Quote: AS Ivanov.
                  Moscow has more opportunities than in the outback.

                  Exactly what is not possible in the outback. And the reason for this lies in the "reform" of medicine in a capitalist manner.
      4. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 7 2020 14: 08 New
        -1
        This was possible because smallpox had long been studied and known disease and the Soviet Union vaccines from it was a blockage. Faced with a new virus, the problems were the same as even now people have no immunity; they either declared quarantine or didn’t say anything to the population, closed the city like the Wuhan Chinese and that’s it.
      5. Sunstorm
        Sunstorm April 8 2020 12: 34 New
        +2
        Quote: Caretaker
        The other day there was a transmission about smallpox infection in Moscow (1960).
        They talked about measures to identify the source and all who could contact, down to things in the commission. Over 5 days, 7 million people were vaccinated. How this was possible I can not imagine.

        There were many good things during the Soviet years. However, you and I are reasonable people and we understand that there were problems of our own. For example, "statistics" can be written and said a lot .... Just like it is now, although ... I blaspheme Soviet statistics, it is beyond suspicion .. "Caesar's wife"
        1. Caretaker
          Caretaker April 8 2020 15: 09 New
          0
          Quote: Sunstorm
          There were many good things during the Soviet years. However, you and I are reasonable people and we understand that there were problems of our own. For example, "statistics" can be written and said a lot .... Just like it is now, although ... I blaspheme Soviet statistics, it is beyond suspicion .. "Caesar's wife"

          Please specify more clearly what do you mean?
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 April 8 2020 16: 41 New
            0
            Quote: Caretaker
            what do you mean

            In the USSR, people were lying no less than now. Actually, it has always been in all countries.
          2. Sunstorm
            Sunstorm April 10 2020 14: 13 New
            0
            Quote: Caretaker
            Please specify more clearly what do you mean?

            statistics is paper, and paper endures everything. So yes, I believe that in the Soviet years the statistics lied no less .... otherwise, where would they take their stories "Ilf and Petrov"
  • sleeve
    sleeve April 7 2020 08: 18 New
    -12
    What is this howl? What kind of hysteria? Where are these, if I may say so, informational miscarriages in the article? Impressed by everything, I will repeat ALL statements. And about 5000 regional hospitals, and about the defeat in all wars at once. The author burns. Particularly pleasing is the complete copying of the government's actions and the further confusion with the breeding of a "goat" about what they have learned, have been doing nothing, and so on. The author was apparently impressed by the skirmish between Mishustin and Kadyrov? About the turmoil. Decentralization?! Governors are changed according to the situation, not even bothering themselves with justifications. I will tell you specific separatism. Is self-isolation not to your liking? Maybe emergency is better? Did the author miss the curfew at one o'clock and the complete stop of the country in principle? I've heard enough about the "illegality" and "incomprehensibility" of this self-isolation, but those who drown for this apparently have no idea what an emergency situation looks like on a national scale. Where did they get that someone, according to the law, compensates for something in an emergency? Further on the calls for the management and reform of the economy and the country. The most direct time! I am at a point from the level of perception of what is happening by the author. Kapets complete if he is still in Russia now and considers himself a patriot.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 April 7 2020 08: 33 New
      11
      Quote: sleeve
      What is this howl? What kind of tantrum? Where are these, so to speak, miscarriages informational in the article?

      Quote: sleeve
      Kapets full

      Hysteria is you now. And insult the author and violate the rules of VO.
      1. Barmaleyka
        Barmaleyka April 7 2020 08: 45 New
        -9
        can you give a direct insult?
        the author frankly lies, especially about sowing
    2. Nameless
      Nameless April 7 2020 08: 58 New
      -9
      Never mind: the author of the article and the commentators singing along with him are simply working off grants here - a division of "Jackals of Tabaki"laughing the fifth column is back in action. For them, "Military Review" is nothing more than a battlefield for an information war against our country and citizens. They do everything possible to insinuate and discredit the state, government and president with fake information in the eyes of citizens - and for this they go for any lie, arrogance or resourcefulness. And they are doing this not only from a liberal, but also from a socialist-communist position.
      1. Chervonny
        Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 28 New
        16
        Quote: Nameless
        the author of the article and commentators singing along to him simply work out grants here

        If they all work out grants, then you work out the same grant?
        1. Nameless
          Nameless April 7 2020 22: 44 New
          +2
          Well then, according to your generalization, it turns out that ALL other visitors to the Military Review also work out grants here? Your logic is senseless and merciless, like a bath sheet. You would rather bore your meanders and think why in his case there are grants, and in the rest just comments.
        2. Sunstorm
          Sunstorm April 8 2020 12: 38 New
          +2
          Quote: Red
          If they all work out grants, then you work out the same grant?

          But all this can be avoided. Honestly, if I saw the title of the Author. I would not come here "and would not work out the grant." It's just that VO has a category of authors ... "provocateurs, trolls" call them whatever you like. But honestly, all people are alarmed, everyone is interested in the topic. But the right word, if somewhere I see Mr. Samsonov, I will pass by.
  • Amateur
    Amateur April 7 2020 08: 20 New
    +1
    This time, Akela seems to have missed. request
  • Million
    Million April 7 2020 08: 21 New
    14
    But what, in vain did they take capital out of and out of the country and get citizenship, moreover, in NATO countries?
    Why do they need Russia and the people they hate?
    1. Chervonny
      Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 29 New
      20
      Quote: Million
      But what, in vain did they take capital out of and out of the country and get citizenship, moreover, in NATO countries?
      Why do they need Russia and the people they hate?

      That's it. The oligarchs did not steal for this, not for that they ruined the country so that they and their children would live here. They call our country a garbage dump, fastidiously call our Homeland a rashka, and us cattle.
  • Evgeny Ivanov_5
    Evgeny Ivanov_5 April 7 2020 08: 23 New
    -10
    I support the author. Cancel quarantine, self-isolation. Everyone to work. Do not develop vaccinations. Then we will buy in the states. Open borders for travel and travel to tourist resorts. Bulk to the presidency. Countries and regimes come and go, and the liberal opposition is eternal.
  • Self
    Self April 7 2020 08: 24 New
    14
    According to widespread information, the contagiousness (contagiousness) of this virus is about 4-5 (one person manages to infect 4-5 people on average).

    Let's figure it out. Zero patient infects 4 people. These 4 manage to infect another 4. There is a geometric progression. Statistics do not confirm this. Where did the figure of contagiousness 4-5 come from then? Well, obviously not from statistics.

    I watched infection statistics from the month of February. Nowhere has I seen not only that development in progression, but even the usual, exponential growth.

    This could be attributed to the "quarantine measures" taken. But these measures cannot STOP the infection, only reduce the speed.

    Let's look at the statistics on China ... 1,5 billion people live in China. BUT became infected (besides, in the SOURCE) - today 83 039 people.

    Stop. Do not understand. 83 thousand? IN SOURCE? With insane population density?

    Wuhan (inf.) (Chinese ex. 武汉, pinyin: Wǔhàn) is a city of sub-provincial significance in the province of Hubei, China, the administrative center of this province. The most populous city in central China with a population of about 12 million people, located at the confluence of the Yangtze and Hanshui rivers.

    But, 83 thousand - this is FOR ALL CHINA! And here is one city. And not infected? Let me remind you that the whole city was quarantined, cutting it off from the rest of China. Why is there not a 50% incidence?

    Either the statistics are lying, or ... Or I have ceased to understand at least something.

    The influenza virus, with its contagiousness of 2,5, easily mows half the planet with infection. And here is the whole of China. Populous. But there are no infections. What it is? What does it mean?

    Those who talk about deaths from flu, accidents, oncology, etc. - a little misunderstood. Influenza, road traffic accidents, and oncology are the “diseases” of all 7 billion people. And to date, if the cook is not lying to us, "only" 1 million 330 thousand cases have been identified. That is, talking about virulence, mortality, etc. - statistics do not allow yet. 1 million versus 7 billion is some kind of statistical error.

    Stop. Again, a discrepancy. 7 billion versus 1 million. How do you count? Moreover, the disease has been "raging" for almost six months. The flu infects half of the planet in six months. But he has, as I said, according to official data:
    1) contagiousness 2.5
    2) incubation of the order of 48 hours.

    Question. How did a virus with an incubation time of 2 weeks, with a contagion of 4-5, manage to infect only one million people in six months without a vaccine or treatment?

    How did he manage to infect in China only 80 thousand per 1,5 billion of the population living in conditions of brutal density?

    No, quarantines do not know how. Slow down - they can. But not to the same extent.

    Who is lying? Statistics? Doctors? Government? I really don't get it. Why, for the sake of 10 infected, impose almost a curfew?

    Something is definitely wrong here. What exactly, I do not know, but I do not like it.

    Shl. Small addition. If the quarantines have coped so well with the coronavirus, then why do people still get the flu? Such unprecedented isolation measures should have stopped him. But no. The flu is as it was. And for some reason, the degree of influenza infection does not fall. What is evidenced even by constant posts here- "And what have I been ill with?". Influenza. He has characteristic symptoms. Those. - quarantines killed the spread of COVID, but these same methods were supposed to kill the flu. But no. Not killed. As we were ill, we are ill.

    PS The text is not mine, taken on one resource, but 1 in 1 voices my thoughts. Here is just as information for consideration. All this fuss with the virus can come out much more sideways than it is worth it.
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion April 7 2020 08: 39 New
      -3
      And there will be 10 million not to do quarantines and so on. And in Ukraine, for example, only a few thousand inspections, in Africa they don’t give a damn about everything, that is, billions of dollars are cut by a bunch of people who do not get into the reports.
      As for the flu, I recommend to study the materiel and not to disgrace, there are quite a lot of influenza viruses and they are not completely eliminated. Again, viruses with low mortality are much better adapted to survival. If the carrier dies en masse, then the virus too. And quarantines for ordinary flu are not introduced. This is unrealistic simple, because the threat is low, and epidemics every 2-3 years.
      1. Self
        Self April 7 2020 08: 43 New
        +1
        Before you teach someone, you yourself need to know. A virus is not a living organism. He is not interested in mortality, or survival of the carrier. Do not carry nonsense.
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 April 7 2020 09: 45 New
          +2
          Quote: Self
          A virus is not a living organism. He is not interested in mortality, or survival of the carrier. Do not carry nonsense.

          Adaptation to survival has nothing to do with the possibility of conscious action.
          1. Self
            Self April 7 2020 09: 56 New
            +1
            What kind of survival do you mean by applying it to an inanimate object, such as a virus?
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 April 7 2020 14: 40 New
              +1
              Quote: Self
              What kind of survival do you mean?

              Adaptability to reproduction in the environment.
              Quote: EvilLion
              If the carrier dies en masse, then the virus too.
              simply because he will have nowhere to live.
              1. Self
                Self April 7 2020 17: 41 New
                -1
                Conversation of the blind with the deaf. What kind of fitness, what kind of survival, when we are talking about an INLIVE (!!!) object. Do you understand? We talk about the survival of the inanimate. How can a virus worry where it lives ??
                1. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 April 7 2020 20: 30 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Self
                  How a virus can worry where it lives

                  Quote: Dart2027
                  Adaptation to survival has nothing to do with the possibility of conscious action.

                  Quote: Self
                  We talk about the survival of the inanimate.

                  Virus (lat. Virus - poison [2]) - non-cellular infectious agent, which can only be reproduced inside living cells.
                  1. Self
                    Self April 8 2020 20: 02 New
                    0
                    The fact that you can post quotes from Wikipedia is already good. To know more what exactly you meant))
                    1. Dart2027
                      Dart2027 April 9 2020 07: 00 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Self
                      To know what exactly you meant

                      Well, if you have difficulty reading, then this is to elementary school.
                      1. Self
                        Self April 12 2020 15: 24 New
                        0
                        Did I say that I could not read? I said that besides reposting Wikipedia, do you have any OWN thought?
                      2. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 April 12 2020 15: 47 New
                        0
                        Quote: Self
                        do you have any thought

                        Its? Have you read it yet?
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Adaptation to survival has nothing to do with the possibility of conscious action.
  • I
    I April 7 2020 09: 23 New
    0
    ,, Since February I looked at the statistics of infection. Nowhere have I seen not only that development in progression, but even the usual, exponential growth. ,,



    Not there look





    ,, By March 12, diagnosed cases of COVID-19 in the United States exceeded one thousand, after which this number doubled every two days and by March 20 reached 17 thousand.

    By March 26, the United States came first in the world in terms of the number of cases, ahead of China and Italy.

    By March 27, the number of cases in the United States exceeded 100, by April 000, 1, and by April 200, 000. ,,
    1. Self
      Self April 7 2020 11: 28 New
      0
      I'm not talking about all the unconditionality of what was written, therefore, I clarified what was taken from another resource, and it was not written by me. Just as it seemed to me, there is a certain amount of logic, in the sense that the escalation of panic is much stronger than it should be. Here is another publication, with calculations and links. As usual, just information for consideration.


      The smaller the coronavirus in the world, the stronger the injection. So, now there is data on the status of the number of coronavirus infected in the world on the morning of March 31, 2020 - i.e. exactly after March 30

      So, according to the exponents of the growth rate of the "pandemic" outside the PRC, which took place on March 10, 2020, as of March 30, 2020, there should have been ... more than 3 million (three million) infected ( and on the morning of the 31st - at least more than 3 million 100 thousand)

      Corresponding calculations can be found in this journal in a post where the increase in the number of coronavirus infected outside the PRC according to WHO was used to demonstrate the phenomenon of exponential growth, as such - with the emphasis on the fact that in this way civilized humanity spent all its basic and final resource reserves

      In fact, we see ... I quote:

      "As of the morning of March 31 [at about 6:00 am (?), Since the message was published at 8:00 - Hippie End], worldwide 785 people have been infected with the coronavirus. 979 have died of the disease. 37 810 patients.

      This is evidenced by data from Johns Hopkins University "

      Source of information: https://focus.ua/world/452912-statistika_ko...ilo_785_tysiach

      We subtract about 82 thousand Chinese and have ... oh, about 704 thousand infected instead of ... 3 million 100 thousand, determined by the same methods as before (data from Johns Hopkins University differed very little from WHO data)

      In other words - in just 20 days of March, the rate of incidence of coronavirus in fact decreased by 4,5 times (!)

      Moreover, the rates of daily growth in the number of cases continue to remain at 11% and 13% in terms of growth in the number of cases and about 13-15% (?) In the number of deaths - if you count at 6:00 on March 31 from the data at 12:00 March 29

      Source of information: https://tass.ru/obschestvo/8110471

      That, in fact, ensured for 20 days a decrease in the growth rate of the number of infected people by 4,5 times that which was in the first decade

      And at the same time ... probably, the injection of the “threat of coronavirus” in the media and social networks has increased by the same amount

      That is, the real epidemic - even according to the data of those who, I would venture to assume, took a direct part in forcing panic around it, is already declining many times, but the excitement around it - exactly the opposite, is being escalated many times - so to speak, "to compensate »The degree of reduction of the real threat"

      Moreover, the "panic virus" hit the brain even of Comrade Rogers, as soon as it came to the information field of Russia, and NOT the USA, for which, with a similar level of morbidity and mortality, he, I remember exactly the opposite, sarcastically mocked (if I remember correctly his posts in late February - early March, of course, to look for something - specifically, no time)

      As for the total number of deaths from COVID 19, officially distributed as something "terrifying" and requiring "total quarantine - everyone to go home", it is on the morning of March 31 - after three months of the epidemic (!!!) - is ... all over the world (!!!) ... about 38 thousand (thirty-eight thousand) people

      For comparison, during the influenza epidemic in the United States in the 2017-2018 season, which peaked in early February and ended in late March - i.e. an epidemic that, without any quarantines and other things, ended a month and a half after its peak, probably should have occurred before the peak reached a maximum of two months - total - from and to - four months

      And during this epidemic, according to the official data of the relevant US medical service, cited by a reputable news agency of Azerbaijan, 80 people died from the virus ... an undetermined number of people who either did NOT get statistics or whose death certificates indicated another diagnosis:
      https://hippy-end.livejournal.com/3338233.html

      Those. in the United States alone, a couple of years ago, four thousand people died from a flu virus in four months.

      Now - for more than two months - 3 thousand (three thousand) - i.e. less at least an order of magnitude

      And in the whole world - in three months - about 38 thousand

      Considering that in the three months from the beginning of the epidemic of 2017-2018, February also reached the USA, at the beginning of which the peak of the flu epidemic came ... it can be assumed that for the same first three months of the epidemic of a specific influenza virus 2017-2018 in the United States alone well, at least 60 thousand people died + - i.e. one and a half times more than in the same first three months of the current coronavirus epidemic in the 2020 season, died worldwide

      Notice, no one closed airports at this time, border viruses DO NOT know, so the epidemic of this virus probably walked in neighboring Canada, and in neighboring Mexico, and in general - in all countries between which the United States and all these four months calmly operated full air traffic

      And we can only try to indirectly and very approximately estimate how many a couple of years ago the people died from one of the influenza viruses during its next and usual epidemic, the snake of 2017-2018.

      We divide 38 thousand deaths from coronavirus worldwide by 3 thousand deaths in the USA and we get the difference - about 13 times

      Okay, let’s reduce it even threefold (!), Assuming that the flu then spread around the world less than the coronavirus now (although why would it be if, with the officially declared mortality of this flu, for protrusion of that from coronavirus with mortality recorded in the USA from it in the seasons 2017-2018, he had to disperse around the planet exactly the opposite - a multiple more with the corresponding mortality)

      But even with the assumption that the flu 2017-2018 spread around the world three times less than the current coronavirus, about ... 350 thousand people in four months should have died from it all over the world

      The difference, in fact, on the one hand is only one month (a quarter), on the other hand, an order of magnitude (!)

      And ... yes, none of you, I would venture to assume, does not even remember that in the winter of 2017-2018 there was some kind of flu, almost ten times more terrible than the current "terrible coronavirus"

      And even more so, he does NOT remember that at that time some restrictive measures, quarantines, and in general something were taken that distinguished that winter from any other previous and subsequent, except for the suddenly different winter of 2020
      1. sleeve
        sleeve April 8 2020 00: 24 New
        0
        The reason for the panic is in the ratio of the dead to the healthy. Plus severe forms of the stages of the disease. China statistics need to be studied in detail. In general, everything is bad ..
  • AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 10: 40 New
    -2
    Infection is not properly understood. This is scary. On various resources, quite authoritative people, among which microbiologists, practicing doctors, express diametrically opposite opinions about it, or rather, hypotheses.
  • apro
    apro April 7 2020 08: 26 New
    -9
    Sheuf .. fsё disappeared ... plaster removed ..
    Troubles? And in what it is expressed ... about this the author modestly kept silent.
    The poor have become poorer. So this is not news .. and the systematic policy of the authorities. The rich have become richer? So again everything is according to plan ...
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 15: 00 New
      -3
      And the rich did not get richer. The fortune of the 100 richest people in the world in just two months fell by a total of $ 408 billion
      1. apro
        apro April 7 2020 15: 04 New
        -1
        I also believe. I myself am so ... I know how to lie too. And it is not a sin to be depressed. And you believe ... what they write.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 15: 06 New
          -1
          If you hold shares and they sharply sank on the stock exchange, then you are impoverished. If the company that belongs to you has stopped, then you are also in the red.
          1. apro
            apro April 7 2020 15: 10 New
            0
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            If you hold stocks

            You overestimate my persona too financially ...
            You are worried about the rich and powerful. They will find a way to spread your butter on their piece of bread.
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  • EvilLion
    EvilLion April 7 2020 08: 33 New
    -6
    Call a doctor. Recalled the memories of Elena Prudnikova about the crisis of 1998. Then, too, they promised a civil war, it was only a haha ​​for that. Even that trash, in principle, is not enough to make trouble.
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 April 7 2020 08: 34 New
    +9
    A week ago it looked like a hysteria. Now, something is becoming reality. There are attempts to create "internal customs" by the heads of the subjects. Well, quarantine measures against "tourists" are just cosmetic. This is the biggest problem.
  • Ptolemy Lag
    Ptolemy Lag April 7 2020 08: 34 New
    +7
    Alas, quickly organize the production of their own medicines and honey. equipment will not work, it takes years ...
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir April 7 2020 09: 52 New
      +9
      You are right, at first it took years to reduce the production of drugs in the country, to optimize medicine.
    2. Gene84
      Gene84 April 7 2020 10: 14 New
      23
      How much more time does the capitalist system need to launch its own production? Capitalism has existed for 30 years in Russia. For 30 years, some kind of "reforms" have been taking place in Russia. For 30 years in our country they have been trying to build something there. And nothing happens. Maybe his, this capitalism?
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 7 2020 14: 13 New
      +2
      Already produce KRET, SHVABE, Tula KBP, three production in Yekaterinburg.
  • Nameless
    Nameless April 7 2020 08: 34 New
    -13
    It seems to me, or "Voennoye Obozreniye" - is it such a mouthpiece for "all-propals"? laughing
  • bober1982
    bober1982 April 7 2020 08: 35 New
    -9
    Well, nonsense, the author, under the pseudonym A.Samsonov composed, is simply utter. What is there to comment on?
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion April 7 2020 08: 51 New
      -7
      He has all the articles. It has long been boring.
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 April 7 2020 08: 54 New
        -15
        The team of authors under the nickname A. Samsonov must go to neighboring Ukraine, or to the West.
        Long live, Socialist States of America!
  • Horst78
    Horst78 April 7 2020 08: 37 New
    0
    What the ***?
    Now the Kremlin, copying the actions of the West, itself drives the country and people into a catastrophe. Troubles. An exit in autocratic, independent politics from the West, world financial institutions and financial capital. The nationalization of the financial system, the nationalization of land, subsoil, waters, forests and strategic enterprises are necessary. And for this, we need ideology, high goals and a program for the long-term development of the country and society. The creation of such state institutions that will serve not the interests of world capital and the oligarchy, but will be engaged in the development of the state and the increase in the well-being of the people. New industrialization, development of own industrial production and agriculture. State planning. The combination of the public sector and private enterprise.
    Bolsheviks 2.0?
    1. Nameless
      Nameless April 7 2020 09: 06 New
      -7
      It's just that someone abroad realized that if "colored" liberal revolutions do not take place in Russia, then one should bet on the "red revolution". So to speak, they tried to look at the "problem of Russia" and approach it from a different angle.
      1. Gene84
        Gene84 April 7 2020 10: 07 New
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        Have you been caught by anti-red disease? Communists for the West are the main enemies!
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 13: 12 New
          -5
          But the Communists are friends for Russia. Such friends as enemies are not necessary.
          1. Chervonny
            Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 30 New
            16
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            But the Communists are friends for Russia. Such friends as enemies are not necessary.

            Your liberals are definitely not friends of Russia.
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 14: 57 New
              -3
              And I'm not a liberal, in the sense that you put in this term. And not a communist - these are two sides of the same coin. I am not a member of the parties, but I am convinced that the right-wing Social Democrat, a Menshevik, if you like.
            2. Nameless
              Nameless April 7 2020 23: 22 New
              +2
              Good demagogic pearl: against communism - means liberal and enemy of the people. Well, yes, apparently, those who do not want to suffer from constipation dream of diarrhea laughing Your communism / socialism and liberalism are just two extremes, the choice between which you are trying to impose on an uneducated public. Life does not come down to a choice between extremes. In addition, there are many other political doctrines between your extremes - of which you are consciously silent.
        2. Nameless
          Nameless April 7 2020 22: 55 New
          +1
          Such enemies for the West that one of the future candidates for the presidency of the United States is a socialist. And I hate the "reds", as well as the liberals, with every fiber of my soul: for their essence is the same - leftist brat, crooks.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 7 2020 14: 16 New
        -1
        Since 2011, the United States and other special services have allocated more than $ 1,5 billion each year for the information topic in Russia.
    2. tatra
      tatra April 7 2020 09: 08 New
      13
      Unfortunately, there are no Bolsheviks. The Bolsheviks quickly put an end to the centuries-old problem of massive infectious diseases, the epidemics for which RI was in the first place in the world. And one of the main qualities of the enemies of the communists who seized the USSR is monstrous irresponsibility. Instead of solving problems, they cowardly dump the blame and responsibility for them on the Bolshevik communists, on each other, on the Russians / "Muscovites." And the problems are not solved, but only accumulate.
    3. Gene84
      Gene84 April 7 2020 10: 09 New
      23
      Quote: Horst78
      Bolsheviks 2.0?

      Where? In power? No. Dominated by the liberals.
  • bandabas
    bandabas April 7 2020 08: 39 New
    10
    Edgar Allan Poe. "Mask of the Red Death".
    Dear forum users! The main thing is not to panic and to take the decisions of our "effective menegars" calmly. It is sad that there are few normal leaders. Most fill their pockets, and try to be with a "good face on a bad game."
    1. Gene84
      Gene84 April 7 2020 10: 02 New
      26
      There is no panic. There is a lack of understanding among people of the actions of the authorities and their decisions, not only on the epidemic.
  • wt100
    wt100 April 7 2020 08: 44 New
    13
    Everything is as usual. If the fight against the virus goes according to a good scenario - the honor and praise of the central authorities, how they organized and controlled everything well. But if everything goes bad, it’s the negligent leaders on the ground, we gave them everything, and they have hands from jo .., and we are white and fluffy.
  • Ham
    Ham April 7 2020 08: 44 New
    -7
    the flailing began ...
    and the whole brew pulled up to talk about the "self-isolation" of the government from the people
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 7 2020 14: 19 New
      -4
      Let's see what will happen to Bries Johnson - he didn’t hide from his people, but the consequences can be fatal for him.
      1. Ham
        Ham April 7 2020 14: 22 New
        +2
        the fact that he "did not hide" is stupidity ... he walked, swagger - the result is obvious ... irresponsible behavior for the head of government
  • fif21
    fif21 April 7 2020 08: 45 New
    -8
    Is the author hysterical? Let's try to figure it out. 1. The speed of the authorities' response to the situation is belated. 2. The delegation of decisions to the subjects is correct (more visible) 3. Providing the population with protective equipment is weak. (State reserve, warehouses of the Civil Defense and Emergencies Department are not involved, or are there no means of protection and disinfection on them?) 4. Health care - despite the risk of infection, they do what they can (low bow to them) 5. The population understands the measures taken. And what kind of confusion does the author write about? request hi
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 April 7 2020 09: 03 New
      16
      Quote: fif21
      Is the author hysterical?

      I see a tantrum here only from confusion.
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard April 7 2020 10: 27 New
        -5
        Quote: Stas157
        I see a tantrum here only from confusion.

        And in this video, not about people like you? wink
        1. aglet
          aglet April 7 2020 13: 03 New
          +2
          from those rubbish bins and you eat, not all, of course, to some, Putin personally calls, and explains everything
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard April 7 2020 16: 15 New
            -1
            Quote: aglet
            from those rubbish bins and you eat, not all, of course, to some, Putin personally calls, and explains everything

            Uh, the comparison is not correct if the video has been watched to the end ... But apparently it hasn’t been watched, as usual they blurted out without thinking, citizens, well, go ahead, axelbants with a small letter. hi
        2. Prahlad
          Prahlad April 7 2020 17: 16 New
          -3
          Bulk says everything correctly. And this YouTube channel, the next kisilvshchena. Don't watch it
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard April 7 2020 18: 20 New
            +2
            Quote: Prahlad
            Navalny says everything right

            Creaklam is always more visible. laughing
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 April 7 2020 20: 18 New
            +1
            Now Navalny and his team are in a difficult financial situation, they don’t let the grants go to embassies - help your truth-seekers in the fight against Ryzhim send money.
    2. Igor K
      Igor K April 7 2020 09: 36 New
      +2
      Look deeper and deeper.
    3. Ham
      Ham April 7 2020 10: 01 New
      -8
      the author’s task is to escalate and spread uncertainty and fear ...
      here came the shambles ...
      unfortunately, it is already necessary to cover up as an alien agent of influence from a once good portal an anti-Russian mouthpiece ...
      I remember writing a comment about the bulk of the lie - so I got banned for two weeks for trolling like ...
      everything is like an echo and on the ever-memorable edges - "freedom of speech" is flourishing ... any common sense here is thrown with minuses by the local support group with marshal stripes ...
      I remember the pluses and minuses were canceled here - it was a good idea! type I do not agree - justify with facts, but then "the vector changed" and returned the tool for manipulating the plus and minus signs;)
      adieu!
    4. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. April 7 2020 11: 27 New
      -7
      Confusion, it is exclusively in the minds of the liberal-gifted and comrades from the sect of witnesses of the USSR.
      1. Chervonny
        Chervonny April 7 2020 14: 31 New
        19
        Quote: AS Ivanov.
        Confusion, it is exclusively in the minds of the liberal-gifted and comrades from the sect of witnesses of the USSR.

        Twenty five again. What are you trying to impose your cockroaches on others. You write about troubles in your comments. So the trouble in your head.
  • awdrgy
    awdrgy April 7 2020 08: 47 New
    +2
    And you built a stealth bunker in the forest with an independent energy and water supply and stew reserves for 10 years !?))) (It still doesn't work)
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I April 7 2020 08: 54 New
    +2
    Well ... the "theses" of the article are clear! Here are just the Author "climbs to the box office out of line"! Yes, the country has, unfortunately, the preconditions for the start of a destructive process, but the Author is already yelling as if he is in the "middle of the process"! Unfortunately, the actions of the ruling regime cause bewilderment, they are not clear, they do not give an answer to the question: what will happen in "the nearest tomorrow?" ... "With the naked eye" one can see the unwillingness of the ruling regime to take on "full responsibility" in all its manifestations! That is why the "delegation of authority" to the regions! ... Whatever happens, the "local authorities", "local" governors will be to blame for everything! At the same time, the ruling regime will try to look "white and fluffy"! These phenomena are already in "action"! What will happen ? I do not know ! I know that if you continue to "keep silent", then the country will start "krendets" ... I hope that this will not happen! As the saying goes: “Don't! I don’t want to!” ... I hope that the country still has a certain margin of safety in order not to immediately fall into this “krendetz”, but if you do nothing, do not take urgently effective measures, even extreme ones. .. "complacency" will not last long! It is high time to hold an extraordinary congress of political forces in the country that occupied the first positions in the list of popular fame!
    PS I recommend reading the book: "The Age of the Dead". Andrey Cruz. The book shows the collapse of the central government, as a result of a pandemic ... how governors, the military took power on the ground, how they began to independently solve problems, "equip" life, fight the pandemic with various methods ... up to the most "harsh" (for example, shooting of planes with passengers on board ...)
    1. Evgeny Ivanov_5
      Evgeny Ivanov_5 April 7 2020 09: 42 New
      -7
      Correctly. Create a government of popular trust from public people populated by the trust of citizens. President Navalny, Minister of Defen