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The Ministry of Defense continues to transfer forces and assets to a military base near Rome

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The Ministry of Defense continues to transfer forces and assets to a military base near Rome

The Russian Ministry of Defense sent to Italy another, already fourteenth, military transport aircraft Il-76MD, on board of which there is a group of military specialists and the necessary equipment to assist in connection with the dire consequences of the spread of coronavirus in this country.


The next, the fourteenth in a row, IL-76 military transport aircraft aviation The Russian Aerospace Forces with a group of Russian military specialists and equipment for the diagnosis and disinfection measures landed at the airport of the Italian air force "Pratica de Mare"

- it is spoken in the message of the Ministry of Defense.

At the same time, the military department notes that the operation to transfer aid to Italy has not yet been completed, it continues.

Earlier it was reported that the Russian Ministry of Defense formed a special group of nine military transport aircraft to transfer forces and equipment to Italy as part of helping to combat the new coronavirus. The transfer began on Sunday, the arrivals in Italy boarded the military base "Pratica de Mare" 30 kilometers southwest of Rome.

As explained by the Ministry of Defense, Russian doctors and virologists will begin work after agreeing on the areas of application with the Italian side.
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  1. stels_07
    stels_07 24 March 2020 08: 56 New
    -27
    I don’t understand what these disinfecting KAMAZs are for, if the virus lives on the same plastic for only 8 hours, Italians don’t walk barefoot on asphalt
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 24 March 2020 08: 59 New
      54
      If you are following the news, you have noticed that Military virologists went to Italy - most likely the equipment that was sent to Italy was taken by military doctors, for which - I think they are more clearly aware than we are.

      I note that some comrades with VO were very indignant at sending our specialists there, all the tears were pouring over SMS for collecting on sick children ... and suddenly the NATO country was helped ...

      But ... sent military virologists! China didn’t let our specialists come to itself ... More and more often they trace the artificial origin of this virus - you know, our specialists should work in this environment ...
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 24 March 2020 09: 05 New
        45
        Quote: Nasr
        If you are following the news, you have noticed that Military virologists went to Italy - most likely the equipment that was sent to Italy was taken by military doctors, for which - I think they are more clearly aware than we are.


        Helping Italy fight the infection, Russian military virologists will gain invaluable practical experience in dealing with a pandemic.
        Such an experience is worth a lot.

        Helping Italy, Russia helps itself.
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 24 March 2020 09: 09 New
          13
          Quote: Insurgent


          Helping Italy fight the infection, Russian military virologists will gain invaluable practical experience in dealing with a pandemic.
          Such an experience is worth a lot.
          .

          Exactly! But how did our comrades-wrestlers burn with the regime, from this help of Italy !!! They echoed directly one on one with Ukrainian bots ...
          Guys, before assuming the provocateurs, think !!
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 24 March 2020 09: 12 New
            +2
            Quote: Nasr
            Exactly! But how did our comrades-wrestlers burn with the regime, from this help of Italy !!! They echoed directly one on one with Ukrainian bots ...
            Guys, before assuming the provocateurs, think !!

            Friendly help was always in price, and fraternal help was even more so.

            I will never forget the IL-76 SFRY that crashed in the mountains of Armenia ... 1988.

            EVERYTHING ELSE IS DUST!
            1. KURT330
              KURT330 24 March 2020 10: 28 New
              -1
              It was IL-76 not the SFRY, but Azerbaijan.
              https://az.sputniknews.ru/economy/20081204/42614433.html
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 24 March 2020 10: 34 New
                -4
                Quote: KURT330
                It was IL-76 not the SFRY, but Azerbaijan.

                Yes, memory failed.
                Military transport An-12 SFRY.
                1. vik669
                  vik669 24 March 2020 15: 36 New
                  0
                  Accident of An-12 near Yerevan (1988)
                  https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Катастрофа_Ан-12_под_Ереваном_(1988)
            2. Karaul14
              Karaul14 24 March 2020 10: 32 New
              -22
              Quote: Insurgent
              Helping Italy, Russia helps itself.
              Excuses, real Chinese experience. Window dressing is all. There are already a thousand patients with coronavirus in Russia - I don’t want to study, but 15 cargo planes are not needed to transfer experience.

              Quote: Insurgent
              Friendly help was always in price, and fraternal help was even more so.
              Fraternal assistance to Italy, which in response will leave the sanctions in force.
              1. Stas-90
                Stas-90 24 March 2020 11: 56 New
                -5
                And who knows, maybe this virus has settled for a long time, and tomorrow it will not be defeated. Maybe 10 years.
                And Russia has already landed in the center of Europe 15 sides of its armed forces - the RKhBZ troops. The corresponding security should be sent to them - a matter to be solved in five minutes.
                And any general will tell you that inviting foreign troops into your country is like 2 fingers on asphalt. But to send them out is already a complicated matter and the cantanker cannot be solved.
                1. seregatara1969
                  seregatara1969 24 March 2020 12: 14 New
                  -3
                  Here's how to stay in Italy, well, a little longer than at a party. Conventional rhbz cars should be replaced with armored ones and so on.
                  1. Super
                    Super 24 March 2020 15: 50 New
                    -1
                    Rimnash !!!!
                2. DymOk_v_dYmke
                  DymOk_v_dYmke 24 March 2020 12: 17 New
                  +2
                  Yes, and exercises on the transfer of transporters ... at the NATO airbase is not so simple to organize. Let them gain experience.
                3. Karaul14
                  Karaul14 24 March 2020 12: 32 New
                  0
                  Quote: Stas-90
                  And any general will tell you that inviting foreign troops into your country is like 2 fingers on asphalt. But to send them out is already a complicated matter and the cantanker cannot be solved.
                  And you did not forget that Italy is a NATO country, and not a third-rate Bantustan? It is not a problem, it’s not even worth talking about.
              2. Paranoid50
                Paranoid50 24 March 2020 12: 27 New
                +1
                Quote: Karaul14
                Window dressing is all.

                How much are we whining, Katyusha? wink Well, in your cesspool this is not understood initially. Buses with their own citizens throw stones at you - you are experts, there’s not enough brain for more. negative
                Your clown is going to ventilate after a downtime as an underground - air traffic jams, they are ... yes
              3. mikh-korsakov
                mikh-korsakov 24 March 2020 12: 43 New
                +7
                In fact, units of radiation, chemical and bacteriological protection were sent to Italy, naturally with the consent of the Italian government. One of the tasks for such troops is the disinfection of vehicles leaving the foci of infection. For this purpose, in my time, autofill stations of the type APC 14D were used. Processing is carried out by servicemen dressed in protection using a jet of water disinfecting (deactivating) solution under pressure. Sanitization of the area and personnel is also possible, which the Chinese successfully used in Wuhan. It was for the transportation of these machines that such a quantity of aircraft was needed. Naturally, they were transported no more than the Italians demanded. For the Russian Armed Forces, I see the benefit of this. that it became possible to practice tasks in real conditions. There is no reason for wringing hands and resentment. I think that some more masks and ventilators were brought for discussion by the public - but I think a little. In this regard, the Chinese tried.
                1. Liam
                  Liam 24 March 2020 12: 49 New
                  -7
                  Quote: mikh-korsakov
                  units of radiation, chemical and bacteriological protection.

                  I’m wildly embarrassed to ask. And coronavirus (which is a biological type of flu) is a product of a nuclear explosion (radiation protection), a chemical warfare agent (chemical defense). Or is it a bacterium?
                  1. CT-55_11-9009
                    CT-55_11-9009 24 March 2020 13: 19 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Liam
                    Quote: mikh-korsakov
                    units of radiation, chemical and bacteriological protection.

                    I’m wildly embarrassed to ask. And coronavirus (which is a biological type of flu) is a product of a nuclear explosion (radiation protection), a chemical warfare agent (chemical defense). Or is it a bacterium?

                    Yeah, there are no arguments left, so at least we will go out with bile. RKhBZ generally stands for "radiation, chemical and biological protection. "The virus, in fact, is DNA, enclosed in a protein cocoon. DNA has - which means living crap, is directly related to bios. So even bile is past.
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 24 March 2020 14: 20 New
                      -3
                      Quote: CT-55_11-9009
                      RKhBZ actually

                      You seem to have revised science fiction films.
                      In reality, the fight against the epidemic in Italy (and in the rest of the world) takes place in quarantine (this is when people sit at home and occasionally go out to the store). Who are you going to pour chemical compounds on there? Or are corpses lying on the streets of cities and are being collected by your military?)
                      And the patients are treated in hospitals in intensive care by specially trained people-anesthetists, resuscitators, nurses. This is how it happens in reality in Bergamo where the focus is.
                      https://youtu.be/NHF3D0FrzP8
                      Who needs "radiation specialists" in intensive care and further down the list? Who will let them go there at all? Do you have a custom in Russian hospitals that all and sundry wander about in intensive care?
                      I can tell you in secret that all these people that flew in are under quarantine. They won’t let them go anywhere and they won’t send them another test for the virus.
                      They will sit for several days in quarantine 500 km from the source of infection, take a walk under the Vesti24 and RT cameras on the streets of a thread of a city in the vicinity of Rome, an interview with which thread by an Italian official with words of appreciation to the Russian people, after which they will fly back to Russia
                      1. CT-55_11-9009
                        CT-55_11-9009 24 March 2020 14: 56 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Liam
                        You seem to have revised science fiction films.

                        This is what ???
                        Quote: Liam
                        In reality, the fight against the epidemic in Italy (and in the rest of the world) takes place in quarantine (this is when people sit at home and occasionally go out to the store). Who are you going to pour chemical compounds on there? Or are corpses lying on the streets of cities and are being collected by your military?)

                        Quarantine within the country will kill the economy. Do Italians need it? Yes, and transportation of at least the same medicines, food, clothing, etc. in the epicenter of the epidemic needed? I need it. And it would be easier to simply destroy the infected in the fire. Do you need to disinfect cars, for example? It is necessary. This has already been written in the comments. And more than once. Yes, and the streets of the cities would also be nice to disinfect, but this is such a Wishlist ..... But disinfection (from radionuclides, and from toxic substances, and from microbiological evil spirits) is already under the jurisdiction of RCHB. Can the RKhBZ troops help this? In my opinion, no doubt.
                        Quote: Liam
                        Who needs "radiation specialists" in intensive care and further down the list? Who will let them go there at all? Do you have a custom in Russian hospitals that all and sundry wander about in intensive care?

                        And to whom in the infectious diseases hospital and laboratories Not needed highly qualified virologists and microbiologists? Unless to idiots. The Italians are not in a position not to accept help and push back from it with their hands, feet and hooks.
                        Quote: Liam
                        I can tell you in secret that all these people that flew in are under quarantine. They won’t let them go anywhere and they won’t send them another test for the virus.
                        They will sit for several days in quarantine 500 km from the source of infection, take a walk under the Vesti24 and RT cameras on the streets of a thread of a city in the vicinity of Rome, an interview with which thread by an Italian official with words of appreciation to the Russian people, after which they will fly back to Russia

                        See above, about the situation in Italy.
                    2. mikh-korsakov
                      mikh-korsakov 24 March 2020 15: 23 New
                      +3
                      Semen! Thanks for the remark. But nevertheless, the virus is RNA, which in the host organism is integrated into its DNA and thereby ensures reproduction. I will give additional benefits from the operation. NATO was shocked at the speed of the operation. That is, in a day, the Russian Defense Ministry can form a group - and now it is already at the NATO military airfield.
                      1. CT-55_11-9009
                        CT-55_11-9009 24 March 2020 15: 40 New
                        0
                        Michael. You are not quite right. There are hundreds of thousands of viruses (if not millions) of varieties, and they are available with both RNA and DNA. Total - we have a productive draw (I forgot about the carrying RNA, you - about carrying the DNA). Those that carry DNA integrate into the cell and multiply.
                  2. mikh-korsakov
                    mikh-korsakov 24 March 2020 15: 11 New
                    0
                    Liam / Everything you have listed is just the name of the military branch. The same machines are used for decontamination or disinfection. Just in case of decontamination, a decontamination agent is poured into the tank, and in another case, a disinfection agent. The actions of the personnel in both cases are basically the same. I’ll add: coronavirus is not a bacterium, but a virus is dangerous.
              4. shark
                shark 24 March 2020 13: 21 New
                +5
                Where in Russia are 1000 patients? Where does infa come from? Or are you one of those who buy tons of buckwheat? Strange, I thought here more and more adequate people
                1. Misha Honest
                  Misha Honest 24 March 2020 15: 30 New
                  0
                  Quote: shark
                  Where in Russia are 1000 patients? Where does infa come from? Or are you one of those who buy tons of buckwheat? Strange, I thought here more and more adequate people

                  Well, not 1000. Not yet. Here is a map for you https://yandex.ru/maps/covid19?clid=2270453&ll=52.556728%2C56.798487&z=4.4
            3. vik669
              vik669 24 March 2020 15: 42 New
              0
              An-12 SFRY - aircraft crash during approach at the Zvartnots airport area.
        2. Andobor
          Andobor 24 March 2020 09: 38 New
          +4
          Quote: Insurgent
          Helping Italy, Russia helps itself.

          Yes, terrorists need to be destroyed in Syria, and the virus in Italy.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 24 March 2020 09: 40 New
            +2
            Quote: Andobor
            Yes, terrorists need to be destroyed in Syria, and the virus in Italy.

            Do not worry. AND THE HOUSE OF NATIVE, not abandoned.
            1. Pathos
              Pathos 24 March 2020 10: 09 New
              +3
              Only then with the huts on the edge muddied request
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 24 March 2020 10: 11 New
                +1
                Quote: Paphos
                Only then with the huts on the edge muddied

                And they did not stay long.

                Burned shed, burn and hut.

          2. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 10: 22 New
            -2
            Quote: Andobor
            We will save the Bergamians, - Putin will introduce and everything will pass.
          3. Incvizitor
            Incvizitor 24 March 2020 12: 00 New
            0
            And those who are terrorists and those who created the virus must be destroyed in the FSA, with reasons to fight.
        3. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 10: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: Insurgent
          Helping Italy, Russia helps itself.

          Exactly! Plus 100500 in karma personally for yourself and for Russia as a whole.
          And the mass of local patriots (note - patriots without "") with "ashes knocking in the heart" do not understand this and do not want to understand.
          1. Roman12345678
            Roman12345678 24 March 2020 10: 45 New
            -17
            Patriotism is a disease worse than any virus ..
            1. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 10: 54 New
              +5
              Quote: Roman12345678
              Patriotism is a disease worse than any virus ..

              This is you explain the Yankees.
        4. Runoway
          Runoway 24 March 2020 11: 26 New
          -7
          will receive invaluable practical experience in dealing with a pandemic.

          Here are the kremlebots wassat tomorrow it will throw shit from the stands, you will write "royal grace"
          Further MKAD in the district polyclinics there is no elementary, and beyond the Urals, and even more so in some areas life is 40 years behind.
          PRICELESS EXPERIENCE WHAT ?????
          4 times higher prices for gasoline products
          Maybe a dollar from 32 to 80?
          And there is probably no speculation on the sale of antiseptics and dressings (and there are no Chinese production)
          There are no pharmacies in the pharmacies, but rogues on the road and Kandelaki on the site have 150r instead of 5r
          Or an invaluable experience to quarantine people for 1.5 months at their own expense ????
          With 438 infected by 160 million in the country
          1. DymOk_v_dYmke
            DymOk_v_dYmke 24 March 2020 12: 27 New
            0
            Quote: Runoway
            And there is probably no speculation on the sale of antiseptics and dressings (and there are no Chinese production)

            There is still its own production.
            And speculation is an argument in favor of the nationalization of pharmacy chains.
            1. Runoway
              Runoway 24 March 2020 13: 43 New
              +1
              nationalization.
              a great word, would apply not only to pharmacies, but also to minerals or even to the same PRIVATE chambers, trinogs on the roads.
              Although the argument is doubtful for the same gasoline 70% of the excise tax, i.e. from each liter 95go 46r / l * 0.7 = 32.2r to the state belay "and where is the money, Zina?" request
              There are only paid PRIVATE removals, cameras and roads that the head heroically opens
          2. shark
            shark 24 March 2020 13: 22 New
            -2
            Why do you need masks? Seriously think they help? It’s ridiculous.
            1. Runoway
              Runoway 24 March 2020 13: 36 New
              +2
              And why do you need $ we have in rubles?
              Why do you need gas if you have a bicycle?
              Why do you need a pharmacy, plantain will soon grow?
              1. shark
                shark 24 March 2020 15: 34 New
                0
                Indeed, why do you need dollars? In my opinion, there is enough for everyone. Traffic jams are not reduced. And the pharmacies have everything. I am against the stupid mainstream movement. "Everyone ran to the pharmacy for masks and I ran" They sent the plankton to a remote location, so they are already sculpting a subculture out of this. Live by yourself without reacting to external movements. And you will be happy. Where does such a passion for being a part of something come from?
                1. Runoway
                  Runoway 24 March 2020 16: 56 New
                  +2
                  I am against the stupid mainstream movement
                  But I am against sending and writing off debts to other states against airplanes, while there are a lot of problems in my oooooooo
        5. Lelek
          Lelek 24 March 2020 12: 24 New
          +2
          Quote: Insurgent
          Helping Italy, Russia helps itself.

          hi
          Correspondent K. Khudoleev, who flew by our sides to Italy:
      2. Victorio
        Victorio 24 March 2020 09: 20 New
        +9
        Quote: Nasr
        But ... sent military virologists! China has not allowed our specialists to come ... More and more often they trace the artificial origin of this virus - you know, our specialists must work in this environment.

        ===
        there is an opportunity to learn a lot of new things, but it is always possible to return back, in case of an increase in infection in Russia.
      3. Doctor
        Doctor 24 March 2020 09: 23 New
        -23
        Military virologists set off for Italy

        What kind of military virologists are there, after the reforms of Serdyukov, ordinary infectious diseaseists remained 3 crippled.

        The question is not who flew there, but who will be taken out from there.
        Regular flights are then closed. wink
        1. Souchastnik
          Souchastnik 24 March 2020 09: 53 New
          10
          What kind of military virologists are there, after the reforms of Serdyukov, ordinary infectious diseaseists remained 3 crippled.

          I do not consider myself a member of the Serdyukov club, but, as far as I remember, the military sanitary and epidemiological detachments (or whatever they called them) were disbanded even before it. In the Astrakhan region, there were stations that monitored all sorts of rodents, they also cut it down. So the legacy of the USSR and the experience of fighting the infection have been squandered. Let's go "new" way, stuffing cones. And all this will be passed off as innovations and achievements of power. Everything new is well forgotten old recourse
          1. Doctor
            Doctor 24 March 2020 10: 00 New
            -2
            In the Astrakhan region there were stations that monitored all sorts of rodents, also reduced them.

            It is basically a civilian system. Just like the Astrakhan leper colony.
            There after the cholera epidemic in the 70s, a very developed epidemiological service. Plus a natural focus on plague and other infections.
        2. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 24 March 2020 09: 56 New
          14
          do not say nonsense. of the three cripples, as you write, they sent an advanced team of 100. Most of them are leading experts in their field, they were directly involved in eliminating outbreaks of African swine fever, anthrax, developing a vaccine against Ebola and plague vaccines. They are provided with the necessary modern equipment, special equipment and medical preparations. Major General Sergey Kikot, who heads the group of Russian experts, is a leading developer and specialist in the field of using the latest samples of special processing systems, the Russian Defense Ministry said. An expert in the field of organization and conduct of anti-epidemiological measures. He has experience in dealing with such dangerous diseases as African swine fever and foot and mouth disease. The group also includes Lt. Col. Vyacheslav Kulish, who is an expert in the field of virology, organizing and conducting special processing, as well as anti-epidemiological measures. He is one of the largest developers of defenses against biological damaging agents of a viral nature.
          1. Doctor
            Doctor 24 March 2020 10: 02 New
            -12
            Most of them are leading experts in their field.

            All right. Of course, someone stayed.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 24 March 2020 10: 16 New
              +8
              from what? Do you really think that a military virologist can go somewhere from the country or get a job for a lot of money in a foreign company? even if they retired they put together a business of several days. This is a separate caste. they will never be let out of sight and will be controlled until death. they are not just carriers of mystery. they are the creators of such a thing that the world can change in a short time. Well, you don’t have to consider everyone to be completely bad. This is one of those areas that when they even have nothing to eat, everyone will find it.
              1. Doctor
                Doctor 24 March 2020 10: 33 New
                -8
                even if they retired they put together a business of several days.

                And here I agree. Rowing on the gimbal with terrible force. Documentation is raised already from the 50s. Thunder struck ...
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 24 March 2020 10: 44 New
                  +6
                  for sure. and they report to you. do not make laugh my slippers. You don’t understand what you are talking about, about which even 1 percent nobody knows? in principle, you cannot even know what and how has changed there over the years. and no one can. the maximum that is available to you is a wiki. Well, the chatter of bloggers who know about it is the same as you. in percentage terms, this is not even zero but minus 000000000000000000000.1. the maximum that is available to you is one name for one place. Research Institute of Microbiology of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. and all nonsense about 15 management of MO.
                  1. Doctor
                    Doctor 24 March 2020 10: 50 New
                    -4
                    in principle, you cannot even know what and how has changed there over the years.

                    I agree with you 100%.
          2. Piramidon
            Piramidon 24 March 2020 11: 18 New
            0
            Quote: carstorm 11
            don't be silly

            This is not stupid, this is the conscious (possibly paid) work of the troll.
          3. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 24 March 2020 13: 52 New
            +2
            Quote: carstorm 11
            The group also includes Lt. Col. Vyacheslav Kulish, who is an expert in the field of virology, organizing and conducting special processing, as well as anti-epidemiological measures. He is one of the largest developers of defenses against biological damaging agents of a viral nature.

            Professor virologist spoke on Israeli television, he said that in the days of the USSR, virology was one of the strongest in the world and today it is at a very high level.
        3. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 10: 23 New
          0
          Quote: Arzt
          What kind of military virologists are there, after the reforms of Serdyukov, ordinary infectious diseaseists remained 3 crippled.

          Chew! Gozman inflicts ...
          1. Doctor
            Doctor 24 March 2020 10: 38 New
            -5
            Chew! Gozman inflicts ...

            Chur me!
            They just say, in one village where Berlusconi’s cottage hung dozens of families of the best representatives of our society. But suddenly it turned out that the Italian health care system was not that ... And somehow I did not want to die on the asphalt in front of the hospital.
            1. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 10: 45 New
              +5
              Quote: Arzt
              Chur me!

              Yes?
              Quote: Arzt
              They just say, in one village where Berlusconi’s cottage hung dozens of families of the best representatives of our society.

              They say Who is talking? So what? Are you hinting that Shoigu sent troops to their rescue? belay
              1. Doctor
                Doctor 24 March 2020 10: 52 New
                -7
                They say Who is talking?

                Bloggers
                1. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 10: 56 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Arzt
                  Bloggers

                  Ahhh ... Then, kaneshno. laughing
                2. Doctor
                  Doctor 24 March 2020 11: 02 New
                  -4
                  Are you hinting that Shoigu sent troops to their rescue?

                  Why not. 57 thousand tourists hovered abroad. Che back empty drive. Our citizens were evacuated from Wuhan.

                  "Until March 31, almost all tourists will return to the territory of the Russian Federation," says Zarina Doguzova, head of the Federal Tourism Agency. "More than half of the organized tourists return to Russia on a planned basis: with the tickets they had on hand. This will happen in the next few days." ...
                  "As for independent tourists, we, together with the Federal Air Transport Agency and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, are looking for ways to resolve such situations," concluded Doguzova.
        4. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 24 March 2020 12: 30 New
          +1
          Quote: Arzt
          3 cripples remained.

          It can be seen, it’s clear that one of the libel is sprinkling here. laughing
      4. vic02
        vic02 24 March 2020 09: 50 New
        -8
        Evlampy, if you were following the news, you would surely have noticed that in our country several dozens of people infected with this virus are added daily, research as much as you like! It is certainly necessary to send specialists now to Italy to test and develop treatment methods. Whether such large-scale events are necessary at the same time with a risk to the health of both the doctors themselves and our fellow citizens, I doubt it. If those few who arrived from China were immediately quarantined in medical facilities, then when the people went in dozens, this is not there, if there are no symptoms, just stay at home. And who will bring the products and how? Home quarantine is just a fiction! Therefore, it is possible and necessary to train in our country.
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      5. Pavel57
        Pavel57 24 March 2020 10: 07 New
        +2
        For us, apart from the political side, Italy is real military exercises. The Chinese have already conducted the exercises in excellent marks.
      6. Voyager
        Voyager 24 March 2020 13: 23 New
        +1
        A list of some doctors who flew to Italy as part of the Russian emergency response team to combat the epidemic.

        It is led by Major General Sergey Kikot, a leading developer and specialist in the application of the latest samples of special processing systems. He has experience in eliminating anthrax outbreaks and the effects of floods.

        In his submission are:

        Lieutenant Colonel Gennady Eremin - leading scientist of the research center, candidate of medical sciences. An expert in the field of organization and conduct of anti-epidemiological measures. He has experience in dealing with such dangerous diseases as African swine fever and foot and mouth disease.

        Lieutenant Colonel Vyacheslav Kulish is a specialist in the development of protective agents against biological damaging agents of a viral nature. He participated in the development of vaccines against Ebola, antiplague drugs.

        Lieutenant Colonel of the Medical Service Alexander Yumanov, Associate Professor of the Military Medical Academy named after S.M. Kirova, Candidate of Medical Sciences. As part of a group of Russian military experts, he participated in the deployment of a mobile hospital in the Republic of Guinea as part of an international program to combat Ebola.

        Leading scientist and epidemiologist, Colonel of the Medical Service Aleksey Smirnov, candidate of medical sciences. The author of more than 70 scientific papers on the study of epidemiology and prevention of relevant infectious diseases. He took an active part in the development of an Ebola vaccine.

        Thus, the case becomes similar to helping Bashar al-Assad in Syria. Only there we run in the army in a low-intensity conflict, and in Italy we will take on the experience of biological emergencies by the joint efforts of the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Emergencies.
      7. Grits
        Grits 24 March 2020 14: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: Nasr
        our specialists should work in this environment ...

        The Italians organized for us a training ground for large-scale exercises to repel a bacteriological attack on our territory. We kill several birds with one stone.
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    2. Den717
      Den717 24 March 2020 09: 03 New
      +4
      Quote: stels_07
      the virus lives on the same plastic for only 8 hours, Italians do not walk barefoot on asphalt

      Maybe they all go around in brioni, but on them, on clothes, they spread the infection to places where they can walk without shoes, which is not clear. The Chinese are not from a good life, and apparently imagining what goals they pursue, half of China was flooded with solutions. Maybe, of course, you know about the virus that our guys from the RCCH and RPN do not know, then immediately share. If there is a developed set of measures for working in the foci of infection, then we must comply with it, asking unnecessary questions.
    3. venik
      venik 24 March 2020 14: 57 New
      0
      Quote: stels_07
      I don’t understand why these disinfecting KAMAZs, if the virus lives on the same plastic for only 8 hours

      ======
      In order to UNDERSTAND it - you need HOW minimum (!) have at least "basic" KNOWLEDGE in virology! And not try to "figure it out" with the help of Wikipedia and other similar "authoritative" publications !!!
  2. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 24 March 2020 08: 56 New
    13
    Impressive speed of implementation of agreements. Learn, NATO balabol.
    Your exercises have been canceled in general (in fact, due to a runny nose laughing ), and the Russians - the sea knee-deep.
    The same teachings, only in a complicated environment. As close to reality. Our RKhBzyatnik very much to the advantage. And experience will be added and the country's prestige will be raised.
    It’s just pride that takes me apart.
    1. olegfbi
      olegfbi 24 March 2020 08: 59 New
      13
      Meanwhile, the proud Poles excelled again! am
      It’s just that they did NOT let VKS planes flying to Italy through their airspace!
      And it is also very likely that Italy’s assistance is coordinated with China.
      The Chinese transferred Doctors, mechanical ventilation devices and disposable masks to Italy. Russia relocates RKhBZ units.
      All together gives a VERY strong group of Doctors, Biologists and special equipment to fight the virus ...
      1. Svetlana
        Svetlana 24 March 2020 09: 02 New
        -2
        Fuck them with Khokhly. Forget.
        1. olegfbi
          olegfbi 24 March 2020 09: 04 New
          +8
          Quote: Svetlana
          Fuck them with Khokhly. Forget.

          Not Ukrainians-Poles!
          This is different.
          1. Svetlana
            Svetlana 24 March 2020 09: 05 New
            +4
            Ahhh .. Forget it anyway :)))
          2. Insurgent
            Insurgent 24 March 2020 09: 22 New
            -7
            Quote: olegfbi
            Not Ukrainians-Poles!
            This is different.

            Yes ???
            And in appearance, consistency, and smell ...

            One and the same (became)!
            1. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 10: 29 New
              0
              Quote: Insurgent
              And in appearance, consistency, and smell ...

              Understand the grades? belay
      2. askort154
        askort154 24 March 2020 09: 36 New
        +7
        olegfbi ....Meanwhile, the proud Poles excelled again!

        And the Czechs intercepted the Chinese masks intended for Italy.
        Refugees and coronavirus clearly showed -
        "strength and solidarity" of the EU and NATO countries.
      3. Vladimir_6
        Vladimir_6 24 March 2020 10: 10 New
        +4
        Quote: olegfbi
        And it is also very likely that Italy’s assistance is coordinated with China.

        Not only with China
        Unlike the EU countries, Cuba, China and Venezuela decided to help Italy by sending a consignment of medicines and their doctors to the Apennine Peninsula.

        So Cuba sent 25 doctors and 10 tons of drugs, including a large amount of interferon Alfa-2B, which, according to researchers, helps in the treatment of coronavirus. Despite the fact that for several decades sanctions have been applied to the “Liberty Island”, Cubans have one of the best in the world
        health systems. This time they showed international solidarity, supporting the efforts of China to help Italy, which is experiencing the peak of the epidemic.

        https://free-news.su/interesnoe/43965-kuba-kitaj-i-venesuela-vysadili-desant-v-italii
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 10: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: Vladimir_6
          Cuba, China and Venezuela decide to help Italy

          With Venezuela, it’s dim, in my opinion, somehow ...
          https://tass.ru/ekonomika/8041453
          Infa little, I could be wrong. request
          1. Vladimir_6
            Vladimir_6 24 March 2020 11: 43 New
            +2
            Quote: Vasyan1971
            Quote: Vladimir_6
            Cuba, China and Venezuela decide to help Italy

            With Venezuela, it’s dim, in my opinion, somehow ...
            https://tass.ru/ekonomika/8041453
            Infa little, I could be wrong. request

            From specific information, only sending Russian IL-76. This is what we were shown. The rest with the world on a thread.
            https://inforuss.info/reaktsiya-frantsuzov-na-rossijsk/
            - Today, many French newspapers wrote about Russian aid to Italy, as before, about the help of Cuba, Venezuela and China. And also about the masks assigned by the Czechs, intended for Italians.
            - In addition to Russia and China, India also sent aid to Italy, as well as Cuba, which sent 50 doctors there.
            1. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 12: 50 New
              -1
              Quote: Vladimir_6
              From specific information, only sending Russian IL-76.

              That's what I'm talking about. But that doesn’t mean anything. If true, be sure to appear later.
              Out of the corner of my ear I heard that Americans are allegedly collecting a field hospital in Italy
              https://ria.ru/20200323/1569003195.html
              1. Vladimir_6
                Vladimir_6 24 March 2020 13: 19 New
                +1
                Quote: Vasyan1971
                Quote: Vladimir_6
                From specific information, only sending Russian IL-76.

                That's what I'm talking about. But that doesn’t mean anything. If true, be sure to appear later.
                Out of the corner of my ear I heard that Americans are allegedly collecting a field hospital in Italy
                https://ria.ru/20200323/1569003195.html

                Vasily, no one on the forum drew attention to the fact that not the Ministry of Emergencies, but the military transport aviation of the aerospace forces were sent to Italy to fight the coronovirus.
                Already sent 14 boards.
                "Rescue" of Italian citizens from the virus is entrusted to the Ministry of Defense (Shoigu), and not the Ministry of Emergency Situations (Zinichev).

                "Italy has closed locks on the FSE, uh-huh, the Chinese have gone, the Most Serene One will poison the transport workers ... like todzhyt rescued ... kumekaiti the tiper ... they will say that the pandemic and will do what no one will recognize, and we will only use third-digit criteria to determine cho Iminna tama was and why and I will honor. " (FROM).
                1. Vasyan1971
                  Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 13: 24 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Vladimir_6
                  no one on the forum drew attention to the fact that in order to combat the coronovirus, it was not the Emergencies Ministry experts who were sent to Italy, but the airborne military transport aircraft.

                  You seem to be inattentive. There are a lot of them. Both those who are "pro" and those who are "contra".
                  Quote: Vladimir_6
                  Italy closed on FSE locks ...

                  Do you care about someone deliberately illiterate delirium?
                  1. Vladimir_6
                    Vladimir_6 24 March 2020 13: 26 New
                    0
                    Quote: Vasyan1971
                    Do you care about someone deliberately illiterate delirium?

                    The topic is closed.
                    1. Vasyan1971
                      Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 13: 27 New
                      -2
                      Quote: Vladimir_6
                      The topic is closed.

                      I do not mind ... request
      4. 16329
        16329 24 March 2020 13: 29 New
        0
        It is interesting that Italy last year concluded important agreements with China under the One Belt, One Way program, including the use of Italian ports. The EU criticized them for these agreements
        Genoa, the most important oil port, 20 million tons of oil, cargo turnover, under the control of several families since the time of the Republic of Genoa
        Outbreak of the virus in northern Italy, near Genoa
    2. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 24 March 2020 09: 02 New
      +6
      At least they will work out the actions - how then we have to finish off this infection. what
    3. Sobol
      Sobol 24 March 2020 09: 08 New
      -16
      Quote: KOT BYUN
      It’s just pride that takes me apart.

      And pride will begin to take me apart when the government starts to allocate money for the treatment of children with the same speed and excitement, which we are now collecting by SMS. And what's going on with this Italy is for me on the drum, if honestly.
      1. astepanov
        astepanov 24 March 2020 09: 47 New
        -15
        The government will start raising gasoline prices with speed and excitement so that Sechin does not inadvertently become impoverished. Banks have already started raising mortgage rates. The Central Bank, proudly proclaiming that the ruble is untied from the dollar exchange rate, for some reason remains silent. For some reason, the government does not care about HIV and drug addiction epidemics, although they mow down young people and therefore are clearly tied to the demographic problem. But their fate worries the unfortunate macaroni. You say our military doctors will receive "invaluable experience"? And why shouldn't they get this experience doing prevention in Russia, and not wait until the roasted rooster bites? Or do they hope that the pasta from NATO and the EU will throw new sanctions? Then you need to go directly to Trump - they also have an epidemic there. And yet, yes, I was worn out almost monthly to unfasten (a little, to be honest) from the pension for the operation for children.
        And let the whole world throw ourselves aside to help Italian children, and even better - ask the government to cut medical expenses, and transfer the released funds to the EU - let them be ashamed in the EU ...
        1. Andrei Nikolaevich
          Andrei Nikolaevich 24 March 2020 09: 56 New
          -7
          ,, buy magazines to help starving children in Germany. For fifty dollars apiece ,, (dog’s heart) I support you!
        2. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 24 March 2020 09: 59 New
          +6
          where is it from? the last 5 days I look specifically at prices. not a penny has grown) and military virologists are not exactly what you write about. they have different tasks and opportunities. what for prevention they can be engaged in? what are you talking about? and let the traffic regulate your movement in the country?
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          2. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 10: 39 New
            +6
            Quote: carstorm 11
            where is it from?

            Gozman bit. Or such from birth. request
          3. astepanov
            astepanov 24 March 2020 11: 43 New
            -1
            Quote: carstorm 11
            the last 5 days I look specifically at prices. not a penny has grown
            Name at least one period in the history of the Russian Federation when a jump in the dollar would not lead to an increase in prices. Pensioners learned this in their own skin - and therefore they row everything in a row, and not at all because of the coronovirus. However, electronics is already getting more expensive, they are also talking about an increase in mortgage rates. Groats, pasta, buckwheat are still growing in excessive demand, and there it will come to price fixing. And if at the rate of 63 rubles for the green economy did not grow, then at the rate of eighty it will inevitably sink. Do you think I'm gloating? And why should I gloat, for those like me and those close to me, this will hit in the first place: myself - a pensioner, my son pays a mortgage, my daughter too ... Do you think that I should grieve for the children of Italy (Zanzibar, Kansas, Somalia etc.)? Maybe you need to buy pineapples and send to the children of Thailand?
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 24 March 2020 11: 53 New
              0
              I’ve somehow looked like someone is rowing, and for how much I strongly doubt that these are pensioners. excuse me. Electronics and not going to argue. I don’t eat carbohydrates except oatmeal, so I can’t argue either. And I don’t argue that I will sink too. but just point out what is, let's say, not quite true. I even understand that from now on everything will not be better for the global crisis. and now everything is just flowers. and as for the children, somewhere it’s your business. I was taught differently. but this is a personal matter for everyone.
              1. astepanov
                astepanov 24 March 2020 16: 34 New
                0
                Quote: carstorm 11
                I even understand that from now on everything will not be better for the global crisis.

                Yes, the global crisis. But for some reason the ruble collapsed, not the dollar, not the pound and not the euro. So this is first of all our crisis.
        3. Cotton Colorado
          Cotton Colorado 24 March 2020 11: 59 New
          +3
          People provide HELP with their donations, and to whom and for what you personally "unfasten", these are your problems! Knocking yourself on the chest with a heel and shouting at the whole Ivanosky that someone was helped, well, at least a sign of bad taste.
          1. astepanov
            astepanov 24 March 2020 13: 13 New
            0
            Sir, I do not cry out for the whole of Ivanovo, and the conversation was about something completely different — if, of course, you noticed. In our country, 100 people die daily from HIV - young people who would work and have children. Yes, as many die from an overdose. And both of these epidemics have only been expanding for years on end. Why was there no drug addiction in the USSR? Why the government does not have the proper funds to combat this scourge, but there is money to support the Italian old people - despite the fact that we ourselves are on the verge of an epidemic, because so far the increase in the number of cases is on an exponential basis (and this is precisely an epidemic sign), and today more than 400 people are ill? Are we the richest country? Or maybe just prone to bad theatricality?
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 24 March 2020 13: 45 New
              -3
              no need for fairy tales that there was no addiction. it just sounds really funny. I do not know before, but in the eighties this was unlimited.
              1. astepanov
                astepanov 24 March 2020 14: 07 New
                0
                Quote: carstorm 11
                no need for fairy tales that there was no addiction
                All this rubbish climbed from the beginning of the nineties - with the collapse of the USSR. However, the point is not even whether it was or was not, but on a scale. And they have grown hundreds, if not thousands of times, and continue to grow. Only the blind can not see this. The web is full of statistics - Google is in your hands.
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 24 March 2020 14: 42 New
                  -3
                  but what do you think if in the USSR this problem were understood earlier, then would there be such a shaft then? many miscalculations in our country have such a past. Soviet pharmacies were just an open market for drug addicts. there they sold so many things that when I first heard I almost went nuts. I don’t remember the names already, but I remember for sure that all the cases that I heard about were bought at pharmacies and prepared. Of course, I climbed a lot, but they themselves worked hard.
    4. Lelek
      Lelek 24 March 2020 12: 35 New
      +3
      Quote: KOT BYUN
      Learn, NATO balabol.

      hi
      Tell that to the nasty Polish hyena.
  3. Igor Borisov_2
    Igor Borisov_2 24 March 2020 08: 57 New
    -3
    All this, of course, is very cool - help in an epidemic and all that ... And when the West turns to face us - at least some of the sanctions will be lifted ........
    1. Pavel57
      Pavel57 24 March 2020 08: 58 New
      +4
      What part of the sanctions should be lifted first?
      1. cniza
        cniza 24 March 2020 09: 05 New
        +7
        Quote: Igor Borisov_2
        All this, of course, is very cool - help in an epidemic and all that ... And when the West turns to face us - at least some of the sanctions will be lifted ........


        You should never wait, but we will help.
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 24 March 2020 09: 26 New
        0
        For the supply of dual-use products for example? Matrices, engines, element base?
        1. Pavel57
          Pavel57 24 March 2020 10: 05 New
          +1
          alexmach (Alexander),
          And after sanctions, can Western partners be trusted in key technologies?
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 24 March 2020 10: 10 New
            -1
            You can produce the necessary products, you can not produce. Do not trust - do not produce.
            1. Pavel57
              Pavel57 24 March 2020 13: 33 New
              +1
              Quote: alexmach
              You can produce the necessary products, you can not produce. Do not trust - do not produce.


              Probably so - do not trust - do it yourself. Buy - evaluate risks that can be thrown with spare parts and materials at any time.
      3. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 24 March 2020 10: 01 New
        -1
        Yes, and what, sanctions? It's about something else. Explain to me, clearly and reasonably, why should I pay taxes if the military doctors of my country, with my money, save the NATO member country? Can you explain it to me intelligibly? I just ask you, do not talk about the “great mission of Russia,” We have a lot of orphans, feeble old people and single mothers who need help. And then, and, a great mission ,,, If the money remains, of course ..
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 24 March 2020 10: 17 New
          +1
          Are you sure you know everything? But are you sure that they generally save Italy and not the world? where do you think you have to fight this? at home? if it rolls all over Europe do you think you can hold back the house? any war, even with a virus, must take place outside the country. for very specific reasons. call if you want it distant approaches.
        2. Pavel57
          Pavel57 24 March 2020 10: 19 New
          +1
          Andrey Nikolaevich (Andrey. Nikolaevich),
          if you are not cunning, then such an answer to your question - Coronovirus - is a new type of war, when the main means of defeat is biological, and any options are good for working out defenses, including gaining experience in Italy (NATO country, for now) .
        3. Tzar
          Tzar 24 March 2020 10: 20 New
          +3
          And where are the orphans, the weak and single mothers? How will military virologists help them? Or do you propose to lock them in barracks on one ration, and give all the funding to single mothers? Only later, if (God forbid) an epidemic covers, do not complain that military virologists will tell you "sorry, we have no experience, we cannot organize effective work, prepare for losses."
        4. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 10: 49 New
          +2
          Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
          Just ask you, do not talk about ,, the great mission of Russia ,,

          If you do not understand this in principle, then how can you explain it "intelligibly"? Do not knock on the liver, God forgive me!
          1. Andrei Nikolaevich
            Andrei Nikolaevich 24 March 2020 15: 04 New
            +1
            You all speak beautifully. You can disobey. Time will judge us. PS Vasyan 1971, I would like to see how you, I’ll knock on the liver, will)
            1. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 16: 43 New
              -2
              Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
              You all speak beautifully. You can disobey.

              Thank. I tried for you. hi
              Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
              Vasyan 1971, I would like to take a look at how you, I’ll beat on the liver, will)

              Here's another, get your hands dirty. Besides, why exactly should I explain something "intelligibly" to you? To explain something intelligibly to you is hopeless, because you earnestly believe in your fairy tale. Time to waste ... Take a closer look at the letters:
              Quote: Vasyan1971
              But do not knock on the liver, God forgive me!
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 24 March 2020 09: 04 New
      -14
      Quote: Igor Borisov_2
      And when the West turns to face us - at least some of the sanctions will be lifted ........

      So it would be necessary to put a requirement - remove the sanctions, and we will give you aircraft with virologists and other things. Is the life of Italian citizens more expensive for the Italian government than any sanctions. But no matter how it happened, as with the DPRK - the Kremlin joined the sanctions, Trump on Twitter praised and immediately applied a new package of sanctions, only to Russia, applied fellow
      1. Igor Polovodov
        Igor Polovodov 24 March 2020 09: 50 New
        -2
        in fact, and so they’ll take off, it’s obvious, maybe Italy will be the first
      2. Tzar
        Tzar 24 March 2020 10: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        So it would be necessary to put a requirement - remove the sanctions, and we will give you aircraft with virologists and other things.

        I think that in a global epidemic, after such demands, anyone who expresses them will not only not be canceled, but will be poured on top. The exception is the USA.
    3. Svetlana
      Svetlana 24 March 2020 09: 09 New
      +7
      What for? The sanctions gave rise to counter-sanctions, which cut off competitors and spurred production in Russia itself.
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    5. Souchastnik
      Souchastnik 24 March 2020 09: 58 New
      +4
      when will the West turn to face us

      Did you read Kira Bulychev and Belyaev as a child? Can’t you move away? winked
    6. Piramidon
      Piramidon 24 March 2020 11: 27 New
      -2
      Quote: Igor Borisov_2
      at least part of the sanctions

      Personally, what sanctions do you care about? Or are you on the list of banned people in the EU and the USA?
  4. Svetlana
    Svetlana 24 March 2020 08: 59 New
    +1
    How will they help? Who knows? The technology is incomprehensible.
    That is, the analysis of blockages after the earthquake, this is understandable. Mass vaccination is also understandable. And here it is not clear. Or was it just that they brought the hospital? And they will not work with the people.
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      1. Svetlana
        Svetlana 24 March 2020 14: 27 New
        0
        No, everything is exactly the opposite. If a neighbor is on fire, then his house is extinguished by the whole street, otherwise everything will be burned.
  5. cniza
    cniza 24 March 2020 09: 03 New
    +6
    The transfer began on Sunday, the aircraft arriving in Italy landed at the Pratica de Mare military airbase 30 kilometers southwest of Rome.


    And here is how Italy's "allies" act:

    According to the flight map, transport IL-76s flew along the route Chkalovsky (30 km from Moscow) - Adler (Sochi) - Praktik de Mare (Italian Air Force base 30 km from Rome). Russian planes had to make a serious detour, with refueling in Sochi,

    Poland, Italy’s ally in the “peace-loving” NATO bloc, did not want to open its airspace for the “hybrid aggressor” aircraft. This Warsaw demonstrated to Rome its "unconditional solidarity." At the same time, all of Europe in a single rush is decorated with illuminated buildings in the colors of the Italian flag.
    1. HAM
      HAM 24 March 2020 09: 15 New
      +9
      "Europe in a single rush decorates buildings in the colors of the Italian flag."

      Well, why not help?
      Then you can talk: "We are so solidary and united !!"
      1. cniza
        cniza 24 March 2020 09: 17 New
        +4
        Yeah, keep running with rainbow flags .. lol
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      3. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 10: 52 New
        -1
        Quote: HAM
        Well, why not help?

        Still, according to rumors, somewhere in the Tribaltics in the evenings in the window flashlights flash.
    2. Avior
      Avior 24 March 2020 09: 48 New
      0
      . According to the flight map, transport IL-76s flew along the route Chkalovsky (30 km from Moscow) - Adler (Sochi) - Praktik de Mare (Italian Air Force base 30 km from Rome). Russian planes had to make a serious detour, with refueling in Sochi,

      Honestly, it is not clear how they flew.
      Where Sochi, and where Rome, very close. Through Turkey? Turkey missed planes? Through Greece? Through Bulgaria and the Balkans? Or something like that?
      As for Poland, it’s also unclear whether Poland and Italy have no border, Poland is Northern Europe, and Italy Southern, there you need to fly two or three more countries, and Poland can be flown through Germany, but whether Germany missed other countries of Europe, not a word.
      1. Liam
        Liam 24 March 2020 10: 08 New
        0
        Why flew, too, is unclear.
        1. Avior
          Avior 24 March 2020 10: 43 New
          -1
          Yes, there are questions. And about this
          Russian doctors allowed to practice in Italy?
          And what and how will they process? This is not a hotbed of plague or some kind of ulcer.
          It’s just that the streets should be treated, no solution will be enough, the Italians have old-built cities, quite scattered across the territory, low-altitude. Some central squares where people gather, so they don’t gather, and there are no tourists.
          At least someone would explain what specific tasks are
          1. Liam
            Liam 24 March 2020 10: 50 New
            0
            Washing the streets is effective for tv pictures. From a practical point of view, the benefit is about 0. Therefore, you do not see such pictures in Italy.
            PySy. From Pratica di Mare to Bergamo - 500 km. And airports in Lombardy - dozens
            1. Xenofont
              Xenofont 24 March 2020 11: 34 New
              0
              Perhaps, to reduce the mess and a better concentration of forces and means, it was chosen, conditionally, Rome. Italians know better.
              1. Liam
                Liam 24 March 2020 12: 09 New
                0
                And what will they do in Rome? Wash the Colosseum? How many are infected in 3 million Rome?
                Italians know better.

                That's it. Therefore, they sent for 500 km from the outbreak.
                1. Xenofont
                  Xenofont 24 March 2020 12: 46 New
                  0
                  It is not a matter of distance, but of deployment opportunities, the availability of infrastructure, etc. The base assumes the existence of certain capabilities. Have these opportunities in the Bergamo area? There, in my opinion, the Americans are also sitting.
                  1. Liam
                    Liam 24 March 2020 14: 35 New
                    0
                    Base for what? Critically ill people with the virus are people with acute bilateral pneumonia and are treated worldwide in intensive care units in hospitals by anesthesiologists and resuscitators. Patients are practically not transportable. What opportunities does your "base", 500 km away, have for help with pneumonia?
                    1. Xenofont
                      Xenofont 24 March 2020 14: 40 New
                      0
                      I repeat: deployment! There groups are formed to be sent to destinations that are consistent with Italians, depending on need. The owners will provide logistics on their territory.
                      1. Liam
                        Liam 24 March 2020 14: 51 New
                        0
                        I see that you are repeating this set of common words - base, deployment, logistics.
                        Only behind them, there is nothing concrete. There is no need in Italy for people with "experience in fighting anthrax" and so on.
                        Which themselves will be in quarantined by law for all arrivals in Italy.
          2. Liam
            Liam 24 March 2020 11: 00 New
            0
            Quote: Avior
            what specific tasks are

            If the short task set by the leadership, they have already completed
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 24 March 2020 09: 06 New
    11
    Nobility is a feature of exclusively "totalitarian" regimes. The "orcs from Mordr" flew to the rescue, and the "light elves" from the shining city on the hill put together half a league of tests from Italy - like they need it ...
    1. Astartes
      Astartes 24 March 2020 12: 18 New
      +1
      Seen their people dearer to them.
  7. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 24 March 2020 09: 11 New
    +3
    Europe twists away from us, strives to substitute our ass, and we suck it. So that I know what it is to love in Russian.
  8. savage1976
    savage1976 24 March 2020 09: 15 New
    +5
    A few days later, Italians and NATO allies will impose sanctions for the attempt by insidious Russia to seize Italy undergoing an epidemic.
    1. cniza
      cniza 24 March 2020 09: 18 New
      +5
      This option is not excluded, this is their insanity, we do not need it.
    2. Pavel57
      Pavel57 24 March 2020 10: 23 New
      +2
      Quote: savage1976
      A few days later, Italians and NATO allies will impose sanctions for the attempt by insidious Russia to seize Italy undergoing an epidemic.


      If they behave as always, it is also possible. But while we are gaining experience and political points. No one knows how everything will turn out during the acute phase of the economic crisis. And the conversation in general is no longer about sanctions, but about the division of the world in a new economic and political configuration.
      1. savage1976
        savage1976 24 March 2020 10: 57 New
        0
        I agree with you.
  9. Angrybeard
    Angrybeard 24 March 2020 09: 16 New
    +1
    After 3 weeks these guys will save Moscow and then the whole mother Russia. Or do you think infectious women, instead of previously closed by a stupid reform, are in a feverish regime for every fireman building. You should not panic, but our borders are full of holes, citizens are irresponsible, and the state does not have the opportunity to pour a trillion on citizens' accounts while people are sitting at home. The state got involved in the oil market wars.
    Therefore, people went and will go to work.
    In this case, of course, all older people need to go to the dachas with a supply of food, and local authorities help with firewood, transporting autoshops to summer cooperatives, villages. This is our way to save the country in an atomic war, and a pandemic is a great option.
    1. Olya Tsako
      Olya Tsako 24 March 2020 09: 24 New
      0
      As long as they are in greenhouse conditions and no real danger threatens them, everything is fine. As soon as such a threat arises, problems immediately begin.

      Recall how the EU and NATO behaved during the migration crisis of 2015–2016. There is no need to speak of any solidarity here. NATO was not noticeable at all. And the EU tried to introduce quotas, but immediately cracked at the seams, because one after another the countries refused to comply with these quotas.

      History repeats itself. And what is happening today is more reminiscent of medieval Europe, when the feudal lords exhibited customs and collected tribute for the use of roads and bridges.

      As soon as a disaster happened in Italy, neither Germany, nor France, nor Holland, nor Sweden began to come to her aid, but began to fence themselves off, thinking that this cup was passing them.
      Passed by?
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 24 March 2020 09: 49 New
        0
        No one knows yet. The virus is more active in countries where it is warm, from +20.
        We will really start around May or June.
        1. Avior
          Avior 24 March 2020 09: 52 New
          +1
          Nothing is heard about the massive virus in Africa.
          1. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 10: 59 New
            -1
            Quote: Avior
            Nothing is heard about the massive virus in Africa.

            There are others. European ones eat for breakfast.
            1. Avior
              Avior 24 March 2020 11: 04 New
              +2
              I know
              But this is a specific virus
              They wrote that it is actively spreading in the temperature zone from plus 5 to plus 9.
              The whole idea of ​​quarantine is to hold out until warming, after which it is assumed that it will decline.
              If it is active above plus 20, as written above, then we have big problems
              But just the experience of Africa on this particular virus seems to inspire hope
              But in Australia, where it is early autumn, he is
              hi
              1. Vasyan1971
                Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 11: 13 New
                -2
                Quote: Avior
                But this is a specific virus

                I understood. laughing
  10. HAM
    HAM 24 March 2020 09: 36 New
    +8


    BETTER AND DO NOT SAY !!
  11. Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 24 March 2020 09: 39 New
    +1
    Quote: SoboL
    Quote: KOT BYUN
    It’s just pride that takes me apart.

    And pride will begin to take me apart when the government starts to allocate money for the treatment of children with the same speed and excitement, which we are now collecting by SMS. And what's going on with this Italy is for me on the drum, if honestly.

    A hospital is being built at an accelerated pace in Moscow. When will it be built in the regions?
    1. Fishery
      Fishery 24 March 2020 09: 49 New
      -3
      in the regions there will be a usual ARVI
      1. Trigger-Happy
        Trigger-Happy 24 March 2020 10: 38 New
        -3
        Quote: Tonya
        in the regions there will be a usual ARVI

        and doctors were unofficially banned from putting COVID-19, a familiar infectious disease specialist said.
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 24 March 2020 11: 00 New
          -2
          Quote: Trigger-Happy
          and doctors were unofficially banned from putting COVID-19, a familiar infectious disease specialist said.

          Honestly?
  12. askort154
    askort154 24 March 2020 09: 53 New
    +1
    The Ministry of Defense continues to transfer forces and assets to a military base near Rome

    It would sound prettier. "The Ministry of Defense continues to transfer forces and resources to the Russian military base near Rome!" yes
    1. Andobor
      Andobor 24 March 2020 10: 10 New
      0
      Quote: askort154
      It would sound prettier. "The Ministry of Defense continues to transfer forces and resources to the Russian military base near Rome!"

      To the north, in the mountains, our places for bases have long been explored:
  13. Mentat
    Mentat 24 March 2020 10: 10 New
    +4
    Quote: Souchastnik
    What kind of military virologists are there, after the reforms of Serdyukov, ordinary infectious diseaseists remained 3 crippled.

    Did you read Kira Bulychev and Belyaev as a child? Can’t you move away? winked

    He read about offers of on-line "work" on "democratization" of Russia from Soros funds. Everything will not depart in any way, it will soon become rich for its forum posts.
  14. Trigger-Happy
    Trigger-Happy 24 March 2020 10: 33 New
    +1
    But the Italians said "thank you" to us and sent a warship as part of the ships of a group of NATO member countries, which yesterday entered the Black Sea! A patrol of friendship ...
    1. iaroslav.mudryi
      iaroslav.mudryi 24 March 2020 10: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: Trigger-Happy
      But the Italians said "thank you" to us and sent a warship as part of the ships of a group of NATO member countries, which yesterday entered the Black Sea! A patrol of friendship ...


      "One of our own among strangers, a stranger among our own."
  15. Roman12345678
    Roman12345678 24 March 2020 10: 52 New
    -1
    Dozens of years have helped .. all sorts of Baltic states, and pshek .. Millions of people have put ..
    Now we get spits in our direction, and we console ourselves with pictures that ordinary people always rush to the rescue, who are penniless ..
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 24 March 2020 12: 20 New
      +1
      We put the best in Spain, so where is Spain now?
      We put millions (brother on brother) in Civil -
      ALL AUTHORITY TO THE COUNCILS!. LAND TO PEASANTS!
      FACTORY WORKERS! Well, whose plants are now. steamboats?
      And yet - if you want to help - help and be silent, forget it!
      And to help, and then reproach - so I tell you .... still count how much.
      Do not help then at all.
    2. Astartes
      Astartes 24 March 2020 12: 26 New
      +2
      Everyone I know in a rage from this help is just disgusting, the window dressing of a man who has long been living in his reality.
  16. frizzy
    frizzy 24 March 2020 11: 54 New
    0
    I am proud - Russia !!!!
    1. Astartes
      Astartes 24 March 2020 12: 27 New
      +1
      Come to the pharmacy filled with pride.
  17. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 24 March 2020 11: 58 New
    0
    Then they will fly in, get under our quarantine, maybe they will fall ill, beauty fellow
    1. Astartes
      Astartes 24 March 2020 12: 28 New
      +1
      It’s a pity that they have no choice
  18. Mikhail Drabkin
    Mikhail Drabkin 24 March 2020 12: 05 New
    0
    Health and good luck to military meds and combat missions !!!

    Is this really the 14th plane? Or a flight?
  19. JonnyT
    JonnyT 24 March 2020 12: 13 New
    +1
    The vacation period is in jeopardy, beautiful Rome was filled with an infection, where is it now possible for the elite to rest near Voronezh? Neither the Milan boutiques, nor the gentle coast of the sea and beautiful villas .... No !!! Urgently throw all the forces and means to save the suffering Italy. Let the men work hard for 50, for 49 thousand rubles a month. they will not disappear from them, the main thing is that the vacation is not covered ...

    So the fight experience is definitely needed, the decision to send virologists is correct and logical.
    We will gain experience in fighting the infection, undermine the "solidarity and unity of the EU." Well, of course, we save the simple Italian people ...
  20. I must
    I must 24 March 2020 12: 24 New
    0
    Well, like that, under the guise of that and look #Rimnash
  21. iouris
    iouris 24 March 2020 12: 28 New
    +1
    The Vatican is ours?
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  23. Yves762
    Yves762 24 March 2020 13: 18 New
    0
    This is all nonsense.
    A string of coughing "Honduras" would not have given up on Russian military virologists either, but sent them to far from poor Italy.
    Help, experience, ... - everything is simpler: protection of money invested by Russian "ilites" in Italy (the same real estate).
    xD Why else do "they" feed the army.?. wassat
  24. samarin1969
    samarin1969 24 March 2020 14: 39 New
    0
    It would be better to help Iran than to support the mobilization resource of a potential enemy. For "science" - a couple of laboratories with personnel would be enough.
  25. Cotton Colorado
    Cotton Colorado 24 March 2020 14: 46 New
    -1
    [quote = astepanov] Sir, I do not yell at the whole of Ivanovo, and the discussion was about something completely different — if, of course, you noticed. In our country, 100 people die daily from HIV - young people who would work and have children. Yes, as many die from an overdose. And both of these epidemics have only been expanding for years on end. Why was there no drug addiction in the USSR? Why the government does not have the proper funds to combat this scourge, but there is money to support the Italian old people - despite the fact that we ourselves are on the verge of an epidemic, because so far the increase in the number of cases is on an exponential basis (and this is precisely an epidemic sign), and today more than 400 people are ill? Are we the richest country? Or maybe just prone to bad theatricality?
    And yet, yes, I was tired of almost monthly unfastening (little by little, honestly) from the pension for operations for children.
    Addiction in the USSR was not the same as sex!
    Mortality from overdose? So only the grave will correct the hunchback! He won’t go to work, he’s definitely not born offspring from him, and if a miracle happens, the process of education (his absence) will fix everything!
    And what about the epidemic threshold in more detail?
  26. Super
    Super 24 March 2020 15: 54 New
    0
    Not everything is so simple by the way. Surely there is an additional goal. Explore the area, etc. Sooner or later ace is equal to our troops Rome will have to take.
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 24 March 2020 19: 44 New
      0
      And what will we do with it. Same as Sahapin?
  27. Petrik66
    Petrik66 24 March 2020 16: 10 New
    0
    It is interesting to look at the number of condoms grazing on this site, here and stels 07 /. Karaul 14. Liam. Runoway .. Arzt. souchastnik. vic 02. If this is not one person, and even for their money, then this is good. They need to be supported, or else they’ll figure it out and they’ll send smart ones, but let’s influence the fragile minds of couch heroes. And so, everyone is happy, grunted on the site, they answered him, that's nice, he raised his reputation from the floor, and, if they gave a penny, then my respect.