German special forces will appreciate the combat "carts"

The French company Nexter won a contract for the supply of a batch of P20 guns to German special forces.

This product is designed to equip multifunctional ground-based equipment of a light class. The installation batch purchased by the Bundeswehr includes seven guns. As indicated, they are suitable for installation on any platform with a 4x4 wheel arrangement. 20 mm cannons are capable of firing at both ground and air targets, providing fire support, including when conducting urban battles, or covering their own orders.

The main element is the 20M621 gun, developed by Nexter. As noted, it is easy to operate and maintain. She uses 20x102 ammunition. The Bundeswehr, having made the first order for the P20, intends to carefully look at this product.

In recent years, various types of so-called “buggies” have appeared in many developed armies of the world - unique analogues of military “carts” used by the warring parties in various conflicts on the planet. In particular, in Russia, the head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, is engaged in their promotion. Apparently, the time has come and the Bundeswehr to evaluate this type weapons.

Comments

[Victor_B]

"Barmaley" experience - to the masses!
So what?
Really massive use of "tachanoks" like Batka Makhno's at a new turn in history, it was the barmaley who returned to life.

[Uncle lee]

New - well forgotten old!
-Lelik, this is not hygienic!
-But cheap, reliable and practical!

[Victor_B]

Quote from Uncle Lee

New - well forgotten old!

The merit of Old Man Makhno is not in inventing a cart, but MASSED (concentration) their use on a narrow section of the front, using their high mobility.

[Uncle lee]

The name of the horse-drawn spring wagon with an easel machine gun pointing backwards. Usually two, three or four horses were harnessed to the cart.
Designer: Makhno Nestor Ivanovich[i] [/ i]
Well, the application, its priority ....

[bessmertniy]

It seems that the German commandos want to earn extra money on contracts in Africa or the Middle East. There "tachankam" today is the very thing.

[seregatara1969]

From the "wild division" of Baron Ungern and the anarchists, they have been using this type of weapon for a hundred years. The Germans appreciated the experience of the application over this period of time and are now introducing them. Just one century later.

[Catfish]

The tachanka as such was not "invented" by dad Makhno, the tactics of their use were developed even before the revolution by General Brusilov, and used for the first time at the end of the XNUMXth century by Cecil Rhodes, destroying almost the entire army of the Ndebel leader Lobengulla with machine guns mounted on two-horse wagons. This was the first such effective use of Maxim machine guns and it pushed many countries to adopt this new type of weapon. Yes, you absolutely rightly said that Makhno was the first to massively use the carts, but it was Rhodes who came up with the idea to put machine guns on the "chariots".

[Zhan]

Quote: Victor_B

"Barmaley" experience - to the masses!
So what?
Really massive use of "tachanoks" like Batka Makhno's at a new turn in history, it was the barmaley who returned to life.

For assault operations, yes, quite a good cart. But for special operations, maybe I'm out of date?

[Stasi]

French-Germans, gun ...

The former Frau-gynecologist Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen, did a good job of resetting the Bundeswehr, and at the moment, another aunt, Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, continues her work ...

[Victor_B]

And what does not suit you

Quote: Stasi

gynecologist

Maybe she and Faberge are all right?
For example, "the best ophthalmologist in the Middle East" has demonstrated quite a steel Faberge to the world.

[Stasi]

Quote: Victor_B

And what does not suit you

Ursula?

Quote: Victor_B

Maybe she and Faberge are all right?

The state of her Faberge clearly demonstrates the current state of the Bundeswehr, which rolled below the baseboard with her.
To the state when (EVEN !!!) The Polish Armed Forces are superior to Germany in combat power, composition and equipment.

And so, in general, nothing. Maybe as a female doctor, she is a specialist.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Stasi

The state of her Faberge clearly demonstrates the current state of the Bundeswehr, which rolled below the baseboard with her.
To a state where the Polish Armed Forces are superior to Germany in combat power, composition and equipment.

I propose to applaud this while standing!
Putin is great for appointing her Minister of Defense of Germany.
It is necessary to appoint the same in the state defense.
Agent Donald!
Take note!

[Stasi]

Quote: Victor_B

Putin is great for appointing her Minister of Defense of Germany.

Do you, Putin, through a line (comment) will be mentioned?
What is it for? Papier ist geduldig?

[Victor_B]

Quote: Stasi

Do you, Putin, through a line (comment) will be mentioned?

I carefully counted the lines.
Found only one mention.
Long thought about the imperfection of modern education.

Yesterday morning, millions of epidemiologists and virologists woke up with oil traders and stock analysts.

And today, again, some of them have been retrained as opposition experts.

[Stasi]

Quote: Victor_B

I carefully counted the lines.
Found only one mention.

Thus, we can hope that the inappropriate use of the name Putin, on your part, will no longer be?

[Victor_B]

Quote: Stasi

Putin, on your part, will no longer be?

It will be exactly as many as I see fit!
Sometimes I will praise, and in other cases, scold.
What deserves it.
Believe me, your opinion on this topic is not interesting to me.

[32363]

Quote: Stasi

Bundeswehr, who rolled with her below the baseboard.
To the state when (EVEN !!!) The Polish Armed Forces are superior to Germany in combat power, composition and equipment.

Germans sell leopards to the Poles, for the Polish pt91 they do motors and transmissions, one wrong step and the Poles are left without spare parts for their Panzervaffen ... count the Nemchig fools ... everything has been calculated.

[Russian German]

French-Germans, gun ... recourse

What's the surprise? My relatives (hares), who served in the Bundeswehr about 20 years ago, were running around with American rifles and machine guns. Now why does Germany need import substitution? Moreover, the German army is now needed mainly for "internal needs." For example, to control rallies in Dresden: I saw with my own eyes in 2015. Those. in fact, they are used as explosives.

[Thrifty]

20mm caliber is already yesterday. Minimum 37, or even all 57 mm, here's a gun for a war with all sorts of "shahidmabili"!

[rotmistr60]

Seven purchased 20 mm cannons will certainly raise the Bundeswehr's fighting efficiency to an unprecedented level. About the “buggy” - why not under certain conditions, the nature of the tasks performed by the unit and the tactical situation.

[Insurgent]

Quote: rotmistr60

Seven purchased 20 mm cannons will certainly raise the Bundeswehr's combat readiness

Well, probably not very, but still better than a whisk in the tower.

[Strashila]

There is more advertising guns, and the ability to install is secondary.
Yes, and the concept of a tachanka, if weapons are installed on an open rack in the back of a pickup truck, and are not built into the vehicle by a combat module.

[unhappy]

I read that in the Arab-Israeli war, the Jews in jeeps with ATGM installations perfectly burned Arab tanks. Quickly, promptly take a place in an ambush, work out and escape in a "cart". Good deal.

[Strashila]

they adopted the enemy’s experience after meeting the Baby complex

[abc_alex]

they are suitable for installation on any platform with a wheel formula 4x4.

Hmm ... Why so scrupulous? Installation on a non-all-wheel drive car somehow affects the properties of the gun? :) And platforms with 6x4 code formulas will not work either?