German special forces will appreciate the combat "carts"

German special forces will appreciate the combat "carts"

The French company Nexter won a contract for the supply of a batch of P20 guns to German special forces.


This product is designed to equip multifunctional ground-based equipment of a light class. The installation batch purchased by the Bundeswehr includes seven guns. As indicated, they are suitable for installation on any platform with a 4x4 wheel arrangement. 20 mm cannons are capable of firing at both ground and air targets, providing fire support, including when conducting urban battles, or covering their own orders.

The main element is the 20M621 gun, developed by Nexter. As noted, it is easy to operate and maintain. She uses 20x102 ammunition. The Bundeswehr, having made the first order for the P20, intends to carefully look at this product.

In recent years, various types of so-called “buggies” have appeared in many developed armies of the world - unique analogues of military “carts” used by the warring parties in various conflicts on the planet. In particular, in Russia, the head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, is engaged in their promotion. Apparently, the time has come and the Bundeswehr to evaluate this type weapons.

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  1. Victor_B 13 March 2020 04: 36 New
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    "Barmaley" experience - to the masses!
    So what?
    The really massive use of "carts" like dad Makhno in a new round of history is precisely the barmalei brought back to life.
    1. Uncle lee 13 March 2020 05: 08 New
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      New - well forgotten old!
      -Lelik, this is not hygienic!
      -But cheap, reliable and practical! yes
      1. Victor_B 13 March 2020 05: 17 New
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        Quote: Uncle Lee
        New - well forgotten old!
        The merit of Old Man Makhno is not in inventing a cart, but MASSED (concentration) their use on a narrow section of the front, using their high mobility.
        1. Uncle lee 13 March 2020 05: 30 New
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          The name of the horse-drawn spring wagon with an easel machine gun pointing backwards. Usually two, three or four horses were harnessed to the cart.
          Designer: Makhno Nestor Ivanovich
          [i] [/ i]
          Well, the application, its priority ....
        2. bessmertniy 13 March 2020 05: 31 New
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          It seems that the German commandos want to earn extra money on contracts in Africa or the Middle East. what There, "carts" today is the thing.
      2. seregatara1969 13 March 2020 14: 20 New
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        From the "wild division" Baron Ungern and the anarchists have been using this type of weapon for a hundred years. The Germans appreciated the application experience over this period of time and are now introducing it at home. After only one century.
    2. Catfish 13 March 2020 05: 40 New
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      The tachanka as such was “invented” by no means dad Makhno, the tactics of their application was developed even before the revolution by General Brusilov, and was used for the first time at the end of the XNUMXth century by Cecil Rhodes, destroying almost the entire army of the leader of the Ndebel Lobengulla with machine guns. This was the first such effective use of Maxim's machine guns and it pushed many countries to adopt this new type of weapon. Yes, you absolutely rightly said that you were the first to use Makhno’s carts en masse, but Rhodes thought of putting machine guns on the “chaise”.
    3. Zhan 13 March 2020 07: 09 New
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      Quote: Victor_B
      "Barmaley" experience - to the masses!
      So what?
      The really massive use of "carts" like dad Makhno in a new round of history is precisely the barmalei brought back to life.

      For assault operations, yes, quite a good cart. But for special operations, maybe I'm out of date? what
  2. Stasi 13 March 2020 04: 39 New
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    French-Germans, gun ... recourse

    The former Frau-gynecologist Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen, did a good job of resetting the Bundeswehr, and at the moment, another aunt, Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, continues her work ...

    1. Victor_B 13 March 2020 04: 42 New
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      And what does not suit you
      Quote: Stasi
      gynecologist

      Maybe she and Faberge are all right?
      Here, for example, "the best ophthalmologist of the Middle East" has shown himself to the world steel Faberge.
      1. Stasi 13 March 2020 04: 47 New
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        Quote: Victor_B
        And what does not suit you

        Ursula?

        Quote: Victor_B
        Maybe she and Faberge are all right?


        The state of her Faberge clearly demonstrates the current state of the Bundeswehr, which rolled below the baseboard with her.
        To the state when (EVEN !!!) The Polish Armed Forces are superior to Germany in combat power, composition and equipment.

        And so, in general, nothing. Maybe as a female doctor, she is a specialist.
        1. Victor_B 13 March 2020 04: 52 New
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          Quote: Stasi
          The state of her Faberge clearly demonstrates the current state of the Bundeswehr, which rolled below the baseboard with her.
          To a state where the Polish Armed Forces are superior to Germany in combat power, composition and equipment.

          I propose to applaud this while standing!
          Putin is great for appointing her Minister of Defense of Germany.
          It is necessary to appoint the same in the state defense.
          Agent Donald!
          Take note!
          1. Stasi 13 March 2020 04: 58 New
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            Quote: Victor_B
            Putin is great for appointing her Minister of Defense of Germany.

            Do you, Putin, through a line (comment) will be mentioned?
            What is it for? Papier ist geduldig?
            1. Victor_B 13 March 2020 05: 06 New
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              Quote: Stasi
              Do you, Putin, through a line (comment) will be mentioned?

              I carefully counted the lines.
              Found only one mention.
              Long thought about the imperfection of modern education.

              Yesterday morning, millions of epidemiologists and virologists woke up with oil traders and stock analysts.

              And today, again, some of them have been retrained as opposition experts.
              1. Stasi 13 March 2020 05: 09 New
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                Quote: Victor_B
                I carefully counted the lines.
                Found only one mention.

                Thus, we can hope that the inappropriate use of the name Putin, on your part, will no longer be?
                1. Victor_B 13 March 2020 05: 11 New
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                  Quote: Stasi
                  Putin, on your part, will no longer be?

                  It will be exactly as many as I see fit!
                  Sometimes I will praise, and in other cases, scold.
                  What deserves it.
                  Believe me, your opinion on this topic is not interesting to me.
        2. 32363 13 March 2020 06: 45 New
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          Quote: Stasi
          Bundeswehr, who rolled with her below the baseboard.
          To the state when (EVEN !!!) The Polish Armed Forces are superior to Germany in combat power, composition and equipment.

          laughing Germans sell leopards to the Poles, for the Polish pt91 they do motors and transmissions, one wrong step and the Poles are left without spare parts for their Panzervaffen ... count the Nemchig fools ... everything has been calculated.
    2. Russian German 13 March 2020 08: 54 New
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      French-Germans, gun ... recourse

      And what is the surprise? My relatives (Russians), who served in the Bundeswehr about 20 years ago, rushed about with American rifles and machine guns. Now - why did Germany need import substitution? Moreover, the German army is now needed mainly for "domestic needs." For example, to control the rallies in Dresden: I saw it with my own eyes in 2015. Those. essentially used as explosives.
  3. Thrifty 13 March 2020 05: 25 New
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    20mm caliber is already yesterday. At least 37, or even all 57 mm, here’s a cannon for the war with all sorts of "martyrs"!
  4. rotmistr60 13 March 2020 05: 58 New
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    Seven purchased 20 mm cannons will certainly raise the Bundeswehr's fighting efficiency to an unprecedented level. About the “buggy” - why not under certain conditions, the nature of the tasks performed by the unit and the tactical situation.
    1. Insurgent 13 March 2020 06: 23 New
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      Quote: rotmistr60
      Seven purchased 20 mm cannons will certainly raise the Bundeswehr's combat readiness

      Well, probably not very, but still better than a whisk in the tower.

  5. Strashila 13 March 2020 06: 03 New
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    There is more advertising guns, and the ability to install is secondary.
    Yes, and the concept of a tachanka, if weapons are installed on an open rack in the back of a pickup truck, and are not built into the vehicle by a combat module.
    1. unhappy 13 March 2020 11: 54 New
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      I read that in the Arab-Israeli war, Jews in jeeps with ATGM installations perfectly burned Arab tanks. Quickly, efficiently take a place in an ambush, work out and rinse off on a "cart". Good deal.
      1. Strashila 13 March 2020 12: 28 New
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        they adopted the enemy’s experience after meeting the Baby complex
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  7. abc_alex 13 March 2020 09: 26 New
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    they are suitable for installation on any platform with a wheel formula 4x4.


    Hmm ... Why so scrupulous? Installation on a non-all-wheel drive car somehow affects the properties of the gun? :) And platforms with 6x4 code formulas will not work either?