Not even with prices. Everything is not as it should!

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For each barrel in the answer


We have already noted in first reviewthat during the implementation of the Concept 2020, a bet on expensive oil turned out to be fundamentally wrong. The fact that such a rate would not materialize was warned by many, and over the past years, oil has repeatedly rolled back very far from the "dream mark" of $ 108 per barrel. As a result, the weighted average price of an oil barrel (the notorious barrel) was significantly lower than expected.

And this despite the fact that the global economy, for the progress of which the calculation was made in the Russian strategic concept, actually met expectations. It grew, and not only at the expense of China, as well as the countries of Southeast Asia that joined it. India also rushed, followed by Iran, although it was then sharply inhibited due to the disruption of the atomic deal. Even the United States, under Trump, can be said to have rushed.



Not even with prices. Everything is not as it should!

Russia also did not lag behind and now rightly claims to be the fifth among the largest economies in the world. But in the calculation of expensive oil, they also laid down in the 2020 Concept “increasing budget expenditures in favor of health care, education” and, attention, “investing in human capital”.

At this particular moment, because of the coronavirus and the tough confrontation between Russia and OPEC, expensive oil seems to be forgotten. And forget for a long time. As a result, almost none of the areas of the expected breakthrough outlined in the 2020 Concept, unfortunately, are observed. Education and medicine are in the unenviable position of residual items regarding budget expenditures. We don’t have to talk about people at all.

Strategy ... indiscriminately


It did not work, alas, neither a twofold increase in the level of income for the average family, nor an increase in the living wage and minimum wage. Moreover, the average salary was even lower than the $ 700 that the authors and executors of Strategy 2010 could be proud of.

We recall that it preceded the Concept 2020, but it was disassembled very superficially precisely because the “Putin Concept” came into force prematurely. Meanwhile, based on the experience of their predecessors, the developers of the twelve-year strategic plan could clearly make it up as much more realistic and feasible.

Yes, it even seemed to indicate a reversal from a straightforward economic pumping towards solving pressing social problems. But the crises and sanctions that stemmed from the need to cope with the geopolitical problems that arose almost out of the blue prevented them.


And then people just fell on the head just predatory pension reform. Not only that, counting on it, they missed the balance between the minimum pension and the minimum subsistence level, achieved back in 2009, so now a drop in the ruble and a new round of inflation can eat up all possible increases in pensions due to savings on people who are retired for a year or two three later.

Today, little is said about the 2020 Concept - there are enough other problems, and the implementation of many points of the same “Putin Program” has been safely moved forward for years to come. With the updated constitution, it will not be very convenient for the authorities - it will no longer be possible to attribute anything to the predecessors.

Nevertheless, even the leader of the country, whose name was assigned to the Concept, has a good idea that the fact that most of the goals of the Concept 2020 have not been achieved is not only an external factor to blame. The Russian economy has not been honored with the notorious structural adjustment, and things are not going well with its real diversification.

Attempts to bet on a new privatization (not according to Chubais) still turn into a primitive redistribution of property and markets without a return in the form of technological re-equipment. The plans for the creation of a new International Financial Center in Russia turned around completely. In the conditions of an unprecedented sweep of the banking sector, arranged by the Central Bank, investors recoiled from the IFC, like hell from incense.

Finally, developmental institutions, which have been far-reaching, have long turned into institutions of extracting money from the federal budget, which has been very prosperous for many years, despite all the crises and sanctions. If something in Russia is real and developing, as, for example, in screwdriver industries, the agricultural sector or in the field of digitalization, then, as a rule, not thanks to decisions from above, but contrary to them.

It remains after reputable experts to repeat once again that “everything is because in Russia there is an inertial structure of the economy, where the lion's share of investments, profits, taxes, budget revenues and benefits revolves in the oil and gas sector and large companies with state participation.” In practice, not one of the oligarchs, many of whom are as close as possible to the one who once signed the 2020 Concept, will not even think of doing at least something real in order to get off the oil needle.


Exactly according to Marx: no one can go past such profits. In this case, it is difficult to disagree with one of the leading business publications that the sanctions are absolutely “nothing to do with, much more important is bad law enforcement practice, conflicting requirements of regulators, and an increase in the tax burden on non-primary sectors”. Only now, colleagues forgot just about the oligarchy, which all this, in fact, on the drum.

Single item


There is practically only one important provision, more precisely, an item in the Concept 2020, which nevertheless has been successfully implemented. Although today there are great doubts that we will manage to maintain this achievement. We are talking about inflation, which is planned in Appendix No. 1 to the text of the concept by 2020 at the level of 3,5 percent.

Only a few days ago it was still possible to consider that inflation in Russia does not exceed such, so to speak, a pretty “target”. However, even if, at the cost of unknown efforts, the Russian financial authorities can cling to such an indicator, there is great doubt that it actually reflects the harsh Russian reality.

We will not repeat once again that inflation and rising consumer prices are, in fact, different things. More important to people is the other, when they already know that the thesis of “no money” turns out to be untenable. There is money, but obviously somewhere is not there. Now they may be required in order to close the embrasure. But this is not so scary.

Another thing is scary - with low inflation, people did not become easier to live. And the thing is that they even managed to “throw” them even with low prices. How they “threw” once with deposits in Sberbank and with coffins in mattresses, how they “threw” them with vouchers and defaults, how they threw them with people's IPOs, dropping quotes of the best stocks in the country so that people hurried to get rid of them. And only in order to then give them to the will of the market, that is, in quite decent and long-term growth.

With prices, the public is fooled almost constantly, although it might seem that there are some signs of stability in Russia. Meanwhile, they continue to stubbornly push into the notorious consumer basket what is really becoming cheaper: imported appliances and luxury goods, but for some reason they forget about the most necessary things, including buckwheat or beets, as well as sharply more expensive garlic due to coronavirus.


In addition, our prices are rising because it is not at fault of competing manufacturers or networkers, but because of tariffs. Starting with housing and communal services, where a rise in price twice a year has become a common norm, and ending with taxes, which we have decided to raise immediately at times, and that’s exactly what people sometimes just can’t live without.

This especially affects housing and land, and everything according to the old bad tradition is disguised as taking care of us, people. And at the same time, any hint of the introduction of a progressive income tax is perceived simply as a kind of attempt on the sacred. Instead, Russian lawmakers with some sadistic pleasure engaged in a witch hunt, that is, self-employed. Apparently they see little pension reform.

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  1. +45
    12 March 2020 05: 17
    As a result, practically in none of the areas of the expected breakthrough outlined in the 2020 Concept
    Oh, schert! How, again ??? Oh, were there breakthroughs in at least some direction from any ambitious Putin's concepts / cunning plans and other May decrees? Something is not recalled (((Although not, with cunning plans, I clearly got excited. One of them is being implemented right now, right before our eyes.
    1. -40
      12 March 2020 06: 14
      Errors and miscalculations, there are many of them! But the GDP quite correctly used high hydrocarbon prices in the 2000s to lift the country, and a lot has been done in the country! I ride on it and see how cities have changed, tractors appeared on the fields, factories are working ... A massive re-equipment of the army has passed! On an ongoing basis, nuclear missile carriers patrol the waters of the oceans under water, strategic bombers constantly barrage in the sky ... Admiralty shipyards, due to the load, announced an additional set of people for work specialties, with retraining and salaries of at least 70 thousand, we learned how to make engines, even , even if it’s a bit sick of western spare parts too, but we are riveting our civilian planes and built a cosmodrome from scratch - only two more countries around the world are capable of this - China and the USA!
      There are problems in the social and domestic economy! Vladimir Vladimirovich could not part with Medvedev, and this is a mediocrity from mediocrity, to be honest ... but you can't throw out the words from the song! The progressive scale of tax is yes, but I have a suspicion that all our nouveau riches do not pay taxes where they live - that's how the "great" patriot of all Russia Solovyov - an Italian resident! And so at least 13%, but the country's budget goes ... I remember the 90s - they did not pay salaries, for six months, they did not give pensions, rampant crime and total fraud ..., the children wanted to become bandits and prostitutes, many of children of the 90s and became them! The country has done a lot in terms of formation and rebirth after total devastation, but there is always one BUT! GDP - can never change the situation - because CAPITALISM! And capitalism is not for the sake of man, but for the sake of surplus value! That is - I wrote a thousand times and I will write again - under capitalism, even put Jesus Christ at the head of the state - it will be the same! Here they will pour mud on VO and Jesus, not understanding the main thing - the system must be changed in this case, not the steering one! The political and economic formation is a tram - you can go fast or slow, you can make the passenger inside the cabin warm or cool ... but the tram still goes on the rails regardless of the tram driver (he is good or not) !! Until our people understand this, there will be no sense! They will, like naive children, believe in elections and amendments to the constitution laughing
      1. +24
        12 March 2020 06: 21
        Quote: Finches
        The progressive scale of tax is yes, but I have a suspicion that all our nouveau riches do not pay taxes where they live - that's how the "great" patriot of all Russia Solovyov - an Italian resident! And so at least 13%, but the budget of the country goes
        They feed here, and pay taxes there, so maybe let them feed there too? Yes, a freely convertible ruble is an evil for Russia; Parshev and not only him are right.
        1. -24
          12 March 2020 06: 25
          Let, yes let - but how to do it? If they privatized everything that is possible in the early 90s and they owned newspapers, factories, ships? This can only be done with the help of nationalization - and this is already a revolution!
          1. +9
            12 March 2020 06: 28
            In England, too, nationalization was carried out, and at the same time there was no revolution, although there was a "nationalization of losses", but to be honest I have not heard about the English "privatization of income".
            1. -15
              12 March 2020 06: 29
              Have you heard about the English bourgeois revolution? Only it was a very long time laughing
              1. +5
                12 March 2020 06: 35
                Quote: Finches
                Have you heard about the English bourgeois revolution?
                Long time ago, yeah, before the nationalization of the coal industry.
                1. -10
                  12 March 2020 06: 41
                  We have the same all strategic deposits are not in full private ownership.
            2. -28
              12 March 2020 09: 05
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              In England, too, nationalization was carried out, and at the same time there was no revolution, although there was a "nationalization of losses", but to be honest I have not heard about the English "privatization of income".

              If Russia did not have "great socialist revolutions. Epochs of Stalin-Lenin" Did not destroy the country, let it develop progressively (Like England-USA, France) Did not kill Stolypin, did not prevent the Great Russian Empire from developing, then now our country had the most a high standard of living in the world, about 600 million people lived .. But the constant leaps and "social. ryvolutions" have done their true job .... The country is breathing on fire ... That's the whole secret ... Sicism ... First wean people to work, took away their land and property, but taught to walk in formation and sing revolutionary songs .... They killed any initiative among the people, and now what are we waiting for ??? It is a miracle that Russia has the richest bowels! There are forces to correct errors! Maybe the country will recover ... I want to believe in it!
              1. +15
                12 March 2020 10: 43
                Tales about the king and about if yes, if you don’t need to tell. That Nicky 2, that Stolypin leaked everything that is possible, and Nicky was thrown off by his generals belolentochniki gold miners
                1. -9
                  12 March 2020 13: 29
                  Nicky ... built the Transsiberian .. is it a drain according to yours?
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              2. +17
                12 March 2020 13: 23
                weaned people to work , took their land and property, but taught walk in line and sing revolutionary songs .... They killed any people the initiative


                In the garden of elderberry, and in Kiev .. stupidity ..))
                I understand that people did not work with the Soviet Union ..
                But now everyone plows tirelessly .. wiping his pants for 30 years on what was created and built in a non-initiative Union ..
                It’s necessary to invent such a thing ..))
          2. +15
            12 March 2020 10: 00
            The change of order is a revolution! In the 91st system began to change. Private ownership of a narrow circle of persons is this normal? Collective ownership is not real? Is working for society criminal?
          3. +7
            12 March 2020 17: 14
            Are you afraid of revolution, and who will go for the palaces, yachts and capital of the oligarchs to fight if they are nationalized? People?!
      2. +39
        12 March 2020 06: 24
        There are problems in the social and domestic economy! Vladimir Vladimirovich could not part with Medvedev, and this is mediocrity from mediocrity
        Oh yeah! Medvedev is guilty in everything. Wait, where did I hear that? Oh, damn it! Here it is: "Chubais is to blame for everything!" And we have good Putin. Good. GOOD!!!
        You will forgive me generously, but if the head does not respond to the jambs or the complete amorphousness of the subordinate, then this is the fault of the head. It doesn’t matter who Putin has been under the leadership of for all these years - Kasyanov, Fradkov / Zubkov or Medvedev. The president is responsible for everything (by the way), by the way, Putin’s words, folk music).
        1. -41
          12 March 2020 06: 29
          I already wrote about the tram to you - is it really not clear then ??? It's not about the President and Medvedev - GDP, as it should be, was mainly concerned with strategic issues and international issues, and the Prime Minister had to deal with the mechanism of social policy and the domestic economy - but Medvedev did not do it very well! Yes, and others, where to get it? Propose your candidacy? And then I’m looking at such critics in the army — but give him a detachment, and he cannot command a detachment, but from the side — he knows everything and knows how to! laughing
          1. +37
            12 March 2020 06: 35
            GDP, as it should be, was mainly concerned with strategic issues
            Oops, have sailed. Is the appointment of the prime minister not a strategic issue? So, it’s like running up to the wind after a beer? Awesome reasoning!
            Yes, and others, where to get it?
            And they tried to look for them? Almost all the years of Putin’s rule, he shuffled one team (with rare exceptions, confirming the rule). That's the whole secret of stomping on the spot.
            1. -33
              12 March 2020 06: 43
              How to change the President and begin to live better - write to me about it right away! What I very much doubt, knowing full well that from rearrangement of places by terms the sum will not change anyway - this is class 1 arithmetic!
              1. +27
                12 March 2020 06: 47
                from rearrangement of places by terms, the sum will still not change - this is class 1 arithmetic
                Kapets. And I wrote above that Putin shuffled one team, i.e. stupidly interchanged the terms. It turns out that you acknowledge that Putin does not fumble in arithmetic for class 1. That's wonderful, that's agreed.
                1. -28
                  12 March 2020 06: 55
                  Putin has nothing to do with it! And nothing to do with - if you do not understand! I will repeat for you once again - if you want people's justice - change the System! There is no third! If you want to live better under capitalism - become a huckster - maybe you will be lucky! The main principle of capitalism is "All against all!", And in order for us to live like in Switzerland, we need:
                  1) Reduce the country to the size of Switzerland;
                  2) Move the remnants closer to the Gulf Stream - or in the dimensions of the Crimea be called Russia;
                  3) Change history and live like them for 500 years without destructive wars and internecine conflicts;
                  4) Smelting your gene pool through the crucible of the Reformation and ... oops - we will have their current social capitalism! And then there are a dime a dozen displeased!
                  1. +31
                    12 March 2020 07: 23
                    Quote: Finches
                    Putin has nothing to do with it!


                    Who created
                    Quote: Finches
                    System!

                    And who does not want to change her.
                    To change the system, you need to change Putin, and he’s just happy with everything. Question: how to replace the system without replacing Putin laughing
                    1. +26
                      12 March 2020 07: 34
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      Question: how to replace the system without replacing Putin

                      Putin is the reason for everything, you need to change your head .. There is no sense in him, the last two terms have shown it ..
                      1. +4
                        13 March 2020 05: 49
                        Putin is the reason for everything, you need to change your head .. There is no sense in him, the last two terms have shown it ..


                        I think that everything is much more complicated, the matter is not so much in Putin as in the class of people whose interests he represents and in the socio-economic model (capitalism) which is beneficial to the ruling class, but not beneficial to the majority of the population. But you are right in changing that deplorable state of affairs of ordinary citizens, you need political power, though in the hands of completely different people who will represent the interests of the majority of the population of our country.
                      2. -3
                        13 March 2020 09: 04
                        Do you like EBN? Do you like camber under chychotku? Is it completely dependent on the dollar?
                      3. -1
                        13 March 2020 10: 21
                        Quote: Alex Nevs
                        Do you like EBN? Do you like camber under chychotku? Is it completely dependent on the dollar?

                        What kind of collapse under chychotku?
                        Somehow I wanted to exchange the hryvnia. Here's the trouble, everywhere only dollars and oil change. And threw 500 Ukrainian rubles.
                    2. +22
                      12 March 2020 09: 08
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      To change the system, you need to change Putin, and he’s just happy with everything. Question: how to replace the system without replacing Putin

                      But how to replace Putin if he is already reset to zero and the next president will be Putin? Fresh folk art:
                      Died Pytin. The apostle Peter says:
                      - I'm going to Paradise, but through Purgatory. There, the devils will "love" you as many times as you were president.
                      “For Paradise's sake six times - not a lot,” Pytin was delighted.
                      They brought him to purgatory, looking, and there Tereshkova sits. Pytin asks:
                      “But why?”
                      Damn him:
                      - And she will nullify the bill.
                      1. -6
                        13 March 2020 09: 05
                        Do you like EBN? Do you like camber under chychotku? Is it completely dependent on the dollar?
                  2. +8
                    12 March 2020 18: 03
                    I made my list here that it is necessary to make the new government so-called popular
                    It is necessary:
                    1. Nationalization of the commanding heights of the economy (subsoil, large strategic enterprises, utilities, transport). Minimum tariffs for light, heat, water, gas, gasoline, etc. Profits from these companies go to the budget and to create socially significant benefits for all citizens (free medicine, education, social guarantees)
                    2. Nationalization of the banking sector - the creation of the State Bank (with the preservation of all deposits of citizens), the cessation of the speculative model of the economy and the outflow of capital.
                    3. Carrying out a credit amnesty.
                    4. Cancellation of pension reform
                    5. The creation of councils (building power from the bottom up) and the transition to direct democracy to replace the cheating of parties under parliamentarism.
                    6. Election of judges by the people.
                    7. The ban on the occupation of government posts by all participants and beneficiaries of privatization.
                    8. Confiscation of property of all oligarchs and rebels who do not comply or sabotage the laws of the new government.
                    1. +1
                      17 March 2020 22: 16
                      Quote: Private 89
                      I made my list here that it is necessary to make the new government so-called popular
                      "Are you serious? Or did you just wrap your head in a chair?"

                      Quote: Private 89
                      1. Nationalization of the commanding heights of the economy (subsoil, large strategic enterprises, utilities, transport). Minimum tariffs for light, heat, water, gas, gasoline, etc. Profits from these companies go to the budget and to create socially significant benefits for all citizens (free medicine, education, social guarantees)
                      -that you do not know that the current budget by 62% consists precisely of revenues from the subsoil? and medicine and education are financed from the budget? and at the same time low prices for all of the above, will drastically reduce the amount of money in the budget and, accordingly, in medicine and education. What happened in the 90s ...
                      Quote: Private 89
                      2. Nationalization of the banking sector - the creation of the State Bank (with the preservation of all deposits of citizens), the cessation of the speculative model of the economy and the outflow of capital.
                      3. Carrying out a credit amnesty.
                      -п3 will lead to the fact that clause 2 "State Bank" will the poor - the bank's assets now are just loans. Today's banks have not been sitting on gold bars for a long time ... if you grant amnesty to loans, the State Bank of Assets will have "0", or rather even "-" - because banks also owe depositors
                      Quote: Private 89
                      5. The creation of councils (building power from the bottom up) and the transition to direct democracy to replace the cheating of parties under parliamentarism.
                      - Already held in the 90s direct elections .... there will be direct democracy of the bandits ...
                      Quote: Private 89
                      6. Election of judges by the people.
                      - see paragraph 5. Conduct Its the judge in the election of their gangsters will be extremely simple ...
                      Quote: Private 89
                      7. The ban on the occupation of government posts by all participants and beneficiaries of privatization.
                      - i.e. you want to close the power ALL over 40 years old? did this generation receive vouchers and 100% was marked in privatization. At the apartment level, at least ...

                      It is easy to be a populist - "Every man has a woman! Each woman has a fur coat !!" and everything seems to be great. But then the question suddenly arises - "Where is Zin's money? © VSV take it for all this ...
                2. +11
                  12 March 2020 07: 24
                  Quote: Dalny V
                  Putin does not fumble in arithmetic


                  Just in arithmetic, he fumbles, but in his favor
              2. +23
                12 March 2020 07: 26
                Quote: Finches
                How to change the President


                How? He doesn’t want to leave, he destroyed the competitors.
                At this stage, he is the brake and guarantor of the country's stagnation.
                1. +6
                  12 March 2020 16: 57
                  Either a change from above, or a change from below!
                  As Rosa Luxemburg said: either socialism or barbarism!
              3. +6
                12 March 2020 14: 33
                Quote: Finches
                from rearrangement of places by terms, the sum will not change anyway - this is class 1 arithmetic!


                Those. from the fact that the elderly king is topple over, it still will not be worse ?! Did I understand you correctly ?!
            2. -23
              12 March 2020 06: 50
              Read carefully the constitution, especially the chapter on the appointment and approval of members of the government, I’m very tired of the mantra about the almighty Putin, who does nothing, after all, the guarantor, its implementation.
              1. +22
                12 March 2020 06: 58
                The President submits for the approval of the State Duma the candidacy of the Prime Minister and those. With a completely pocketed State Duma, approval becomes a purely technical matter. So do not pour about Putin’s weakness.
              2. +21
                12 March 2020 07: 10
                Quote: nov_tech.vrn
                still a guarantor of her performance.

                Yeah, I wanted it, I increased the presidency, and at the same time the deputies, who supported the freebie with all our hands, wanted it, made amendments ... Guarantor ... laughing
                1. -2
                  13 March 2020 09: 06
                  Who do you want to choose? Ala EBN?
                  1. -1
                    13 March 2020 10: 29
                    Quote: Alex Nevs
                    Who do you want to choose? Ala EBN?

                    Yeah, how is Putin different from Yeltsin? Maybe Peskov blizzard did not carry out Operation Sunset?
              3. +18
                12 March 2020 07: 19
                Quote: nov_tech.vrn
                Read the constitution carefully,

                How power is raping her now! She twirls the constitution like a gypsy in the sun laughing
              4. -24
                12 March 2020 08: 31
                the test was a success, judging by the number of minuses, a number of "writers" did not even read the old constitution, but read either comments from the yellow press (telegram channels are also equated to the press here)
          2. -12
            12 March 2020 12: 14
            Quote: Finches
            Propose your candidacy? And then I’m looking at such critics in the army — but give him a detachment, and he cannot command a detachment, but from the side — he knows everything and knows how to!

            Critics ... Obese Etruscans ... Give me the money! We don’t want to work! Let migrants from Central Asia work ... We will rent apartments for them ...
            1. +11
              12 March 2020 16: 54
              Quote: 30 vis
              Critics ... Obese Etruscans ... Give me the money! We don’t want to work! Let migrants from Central Asia work

              to myself like that? Self-critical! I respect
              1. -2
                13 March 2020 14: 08
                Quote: Overlock
                Quote: 30 vis
                Critics ... Obese Etruscans ... Give me the money! We don’t want to work! Let migrants from Central Asia work

                to myself like that? Self-critical! I respect

                With the age of 62 years and height 183 I weigh 86 kg .... So what can I and Etruscan smile but not overweight .... laughing What to all of you, my lovely obese Etruscans I wish! Stop drinking, exercise. good
                1. +9
                  13 March 2020 16: 18
                  Quote: 30 vis
                  Stop drinking, exercise.

                  have a nice one you too
            2. +1
              13 March 2020 10: 33
              Quote: 30 vis
              Obese Etruscans ... Give me the money! We don’t want to work!
              Fence. 200 rubles per meter. Do you want to help, obese?
              1. +1
                13 March 2020 13: 43
                I made a fence near my house with my own hands. People have built a lot of things. I advise you to shake your flabby muscle! hi Go to work! Etruscan ... smile
                1. -1
                  13 March 2020 16: 31
                  Quote: 30 vis
                  I advise you to shake your flabby muscle! Go to work! Etruscan ...

                  Nefig advise me, I already have enough orders.
                  1. +2
                    13 March 2020 18: 28
                    Quote: mordvin xnumx
                    Quote: 30 vis
                    I advise you to shake your flabby muscle! Go to work! Etruscan ...

                    Nefig advise me, I already have enough orders.

                    There is work, it’s good drinks hi
        2. +26
          12 March 2020 06: 46
          Quote: Dalny V
          The president is responsible for everything


          That is why we are hammered about bad boyars. But the rope still comes to an end. Our economy is determined not by the laws of the economy, but by political tasks. Putin wanted to help the Chinese economy with low oil prices, he did, but he threw the whole country at the headstock, he did not calculate the effect a little. The Saudis were offended and decided to punish how they once punished the USSR. I think that many midiards in well-being funds are no longer there, and they must be divided between the impoverished elite at once (the shares of all plummeted) and the population. It’s not even difficult to understand whom the leader will save.
          The country is entering an economic crisis because of the coronovirus, the war with OPEC, and voluntarism in our economy. And this is objectivity, as well as the devaluation of the ruble
        3. +10
          12 March 2020 09: 01
          ... Wait, where did I hear that? Oh, damn it! Here it is: "Chubais is to blame for everything!"

          Deeper needs a story.
          The king is good, the boyars are bad .....
        4. 0
          13 March 2020 15: 05
          The main breakthrough in the Russian Federation is the endless rewriting of the Constitution for the needs of one person.
      3. +26
        12 March 2020 06: 35
        Quote: Finches
        They will, like naive children, believe in elections

        They believe in their president, who is lying to them. When they cease to believe in the elections, then they will believe in their strength and that only by force can take what was stolen from you. And then, the election. Elections are in the states, Germany, France, the leading economies, and strangely enough, everyone runs to Europe for a better life. Why are the elections not working for us? Because our election is an election without a choice, because the presidential administration can cancel any election if it does not suit the result (elections in the Far East). The winners are those who are close to power, that is, they belong to the vertical created by the president. Who was really punished for stuffing in the election? The bottom line: the election system does not work for us because of their destruction as an instrument by the existing government.
        1. -23
          12 March 2020 06: 45
          With Europe, I would not compare with the United States, the same - there is a completely different political culture and traditions! USA is a mega-corporation! Western Europe –– the Reformation skating rink that created a certain human genotype –– this is not the mentality of a Russian peasant! We will never become them! Do you understand? Therefore, the Western political model does not take root with us and God does not take root even knows how many years!
          1. +18
            12 March 2020 07: 12
            Quote: Finches
            Therefore, the Western political model does not take root with us and God does not take root even knows how many years!

            Then we have only one way and it is bad
            Quote: Finches
            a certain human genotype is not the mentality of a Russian peasant!

            It is this mentality that allows power to fool people, but everything changes and nothing lasts forever
            1. +24
              12 March 2020 07: 52
              Quote: Finches
              Therefore, the Western political model does not take root with us and God does not take root even knows how many years!

              Then we have only one way and it is bad
              And that, damn it is typical: When taxes are raised, the retirement age, we are told, "Duc in the West is the same, but we have capitalism!" And to a timid question, why are the prices Western, and the salaries are not Western, they say "the mentality, Panimash, we have a different one."
          2. +12
            12 March 2020 09: 39
            And stopudovo, these Zyablitsovs are marching in a system to vote for the great helmsman, whose oars have long fallen off. for two reasons - you don’t need to think with your head - they already thought for them and when cutting the country - some crumbs passed them.
            1. -4
              12 March 2020 20: 55
              If you had been on the site for a long time, then you knew that I, Zyablitsev, did not go to the polls since 1996, basically considering them a waste of time and national money! hi
        2. -1
          13 March 2020 09: 07
          Who do you want to choose? Ala EBN?
      4. +20
        12 March 2020 06: 52
        Quote: Finches
        I ride on it and see how cities have changed, tractors appeared on the fields, factories are working ...

        Quote: Finches
        I remember the 90s - they didn’t pay salaries, for half a year,

        You know what, Zyablitsov. Climb up sometimes to another bell tower. By the way, here a year ago they wrote about selection. I climbed onto the site; you need machine operators and seed producers there in St. Petersburg. With a salary of 22 and 12 thousand rubles, respectively. So powder your brains to your students, I apologize for the harshness.
        1. -10
          12 March 2020 07: 47
          I will tell you more, the average salary in St. Petersburg is 36 thousand, but where did I dust your brains? About the shipyard, it's true! But, for example, an associate professor at the Military Academy of Communications and raises a hundredth ... or a tutor in Suvorovskoye 80. Don't you want teachers to go to Suvorovskoye? There are constantly vacancies and work, why?
        2. -8
          12 March 2020 09: 18
          Why in St. Petersburg machine operators? Plant potatoes on the Palace? If you are talking about tractor utilities, then they earn 50 ty. Moreover, this work is not in demand among the indigenous population.
          1. +6
            12 March 2020 10: 25
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            Why in St. Petersburg machine operators? Plant potatoes on the Palace?

            Machine operator for the Institute. Vavilova. There is also a seed agronomist.
            1. +16
              12 March 2020 16: 58
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              Machine operator for the Institute. Vavilova. There is also a seed agronomist.

              they say. that they have now sold abroad a collection of unique varieties and hybrids of seeds, which Nikolai Vavilov began to collect and which is a national treasure of Russia and a guarantee of its food security!
              During the Great Patriotic War, during the years of the siege, a terrible famine, a deadly cold, the seed collection remained untouched. 12 VIR employees died of hunger, although the seeds of the collection lay directly on the tables at which they worked. They didn’t touch, but the current ones - they sold
          2. +9
            12 March 2020 13: 42
            In the Moscow region (Elektrostal), we have a tractor driver from the housing and communal services (management company) in his hands 27 thousand. 20 thousand salary + 7 bonuses. I went to "sick leave" payment from the salary. What are 50 thousand? Unless, of course, this tractor does not "drive" to the left. But now even the bosses of the GPS receivers set the cost of two salaries on the tractor.
        3. 0
          13 March 2020 09: 08
          It is necessary that a million and a half, for mechanization and seed production.
      5. w70
        +15
        12 March 2020 07: 17
        GDP is only 20 years in power, he needs 20 more to work and heal
        1. -2
          13 March 2020 09: 08
          Who do you want to choose? Ala EBN?
          1. +1
            13 March 2020 10: 17
            Quote: Alex Nevs
            Who do you want to choose? Ala EBN?

            And besides the tree there is nobody? Take, for example, Ivashov. His ride with signatures. And, I’m sorry, did the self-nominated Putin personally go to the apartments, collect signatures?
      6. +25
        12 March 2020 07: 25
        Quote: Finches
        But the GDP quite correctly used high hydrocarbon prices in the 2000s to lift the country, and a lot has been done in the country!

        This is rubbish and dust in the eye, all the years of "high" oil were wasted. Moving tiles in the capital can be ignored. But how could they hold a doping Olympiad for public money, which is still "hiccuping" an athlete, world championships - and this is at the very moment when they cannot cure their own children, pensioners are given a handout in the form of $ 200 so that they do not die of hunger and at the same time they raise the retirement age !!!
        What are the achievements of the fix? But the president must answer for all this ...
        1. +26
          12 March 2020 08: 14
          As for the "passivity" of the leadership in terms of the development of the country .... well, so what do you want from the former "blackmail", "shopkeepers", "buy-sell" - 80s, and their protectors - "siloviks" from law enforcement agencies that came to power in Russia? They would have to sell something at a higher price, eliminate competitors, and impose all the others in a rank order and shove the profits received into the "boxes" far away - this is their "theme", and "development", "planning", "management "is not for them. Do you remember their mantra of the 90s, early 2000s? -: "You don't need to do anything in the economy, the market will do everything by itself, we (the management) are only required to create conditions for investment and manage cash flows." So they were engaged in "creating an investment climate" for some reason, deciding that this requires only "cheap labor" - that is, they gradually cut wages, increasing the workload, bringing the country to complete poverty, killing all demand. They also "managed" the "cash flows" - they squeezed out the business they needed, built their relatives and the right people into it, took money out of the country into various "money boxes", and distributed the funds remaining after that among "their own" and "confidants" and so on. That is, - we were busy with all this, and add to this how much time and effort should be spent on internal intrigues among the same "spiders in a bank", and you also need to rest from the "works of the righteous" with "sportswomen", "generals" and so on - when there, in the country, they have no time to deal with, and the market, in their opinion, has not gone anywhere - he has to do everything for them. Yes But there was an opportunity, there was a government of Primakov, Maslyukov, Gerashchenko, there were "bison" in the economy, there were .... but they did not come to court, because "the planes are turning", "the recommendations of the IMF and the" Development Bank "do not listen and do not fulfill, and Columbia and Yale Universities are not a decree for them, "do you understand" ... smart people are not needed "at court", but educated and experienced in economics and management, obedient and enterprising people are needed in pushing both competitors and money for "egg-capsules".
      7. for
        +4
        12 March 2020 07: 47
        Quote: Finches
        But the GDP quite correctly used high hydrocarbon prices in the 2000s to lift the country, and a lot has been done in the country!

        If competently, then there would be more and better enemies.
        1. -14
          12 March 2020 07: 53
          I personally wouldn’t take the lead in the country — I can regiment of communications, but no more! But since I have something to compare, I compare. Someone would do better, and someone worse, so everything is relative, but if you compare with 1999, then heaven and earth, and if with Germany, then the map will not be in our favor!
          1. for
            +16
            12 March 2020 08: 19
            Quote: Finches
            I personally wouldn’t take the lead in the country - I can regiment of communications, but no more!

            Why not. The GDP and the regiment had not been led before, its path of intrigue to weave, its place in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. In place of the president there should be a person who knows how to organize the work of the team and recruit a good team (not friends and relatives). My opinion.
            1. -15
              12 March 2020 09: 10
              Such heroes of words and deeds, but where to get them so ideal ??
              1. +29
                12 March 2020 09: 46
                Quote: Finches
                Such heroes of words and deeds, but where to get them so ideal ??

                Well, that's it, Russia ended on Putin, well, not that one else.
                By this very thing, colleague, you insult the Russian people, saying that honest and decent people have been transferred in Russia. Of course they are destroyed (in the sense of genocide), they survive by all means available, but there are still normal people in Russia.
                Pysy. If you adhere to the logic of the Zaputinists, it turns out that there is no one but him, and if, for example, he dies tomorrow, nevertheless we go under God, then he will take and die. What will you do, poor fellow? Who will you appoint in scari?
                1. -14
                  12 March 2020 10: 11
                  Go steer mother Russia — what are you wasting your time with on comments? laughing
                  1. +26
                    12 March 2020 10: 16
                    Quote: Finches
                    Go steer mother Russia — what are you wasting your time with on comments? laughing

                    If the people trust, then I’ll go and look no worse than the designated citizen !!!
                    1. -20
                      12 March 2020 10: 19
                      Quote: Malyuta
                      and I will look no worse than the designated citizen !!!

                      Thank you, you made me morning laughing good laughing

                      Quote: N. Nosov, Dunno on the Moon
                      Five minutes of laughter replace a glass of sour cream
                    2. -9
                      12 March 2020 10: 20
                      And then do not forget to go to VO - read that the good Samaritans will write about you here! laughing Only, chur, do not be offended - it’s not possible to please everyone!
                      1. +24
                        12 March 2020 11: 11
                        Quote: Finches
                        Only, chur, do not be offended - it’s not possible to please everyone!

                        Only those who grabbed their throats and sold their homeland will be offended, and the rest 95-97% we will return everything that is due, we’ll have to work, because we have destroyed everything to hell, but we’ll rebuild cities, plants and factories, and work it’s enough for everyone and you’ll be re-educated, you don’t want to, we’ll teach, you don’t know how to make them (good paraphrase), and then you will clap your hands and remember all the past two and a half decades, like a nightmare and the blackest page in the history of Russia. hi good
                      2. -15
                        12 March 2020 11: 27
                        Quote: Malyuta
                        and we will re-educate you, do not want to, teach, do not know how, make

                        To the doctor, heal yourself wink

                        Quote: Malyuta
                        good paraphrase

                        You won’t praise yourself - you will wait for the vegetable Yes

                        Candidate, damn it, for President laughing stop negative
            2. -1
              13 March 2020 09: 09
              Who do you want to choose? Ala EBN? Whom? Announce to the People.
      8. +11
        12 March 2020 08: 14
        GDP has already been ranked with Jesus ....
      9. +5
        12 March 2020 08: 43
        in Concept 2020 were prescribed to build 7 aircraft carriers? - this is for the authors of HE.
        all that they wanted - everything was done. what they did not want - they promised only.
        CREATED A CAPITALIST VALUE SYSTEM.
        MODERN.
        the complex of usefulness (or not ??) was born in the minds of future reformers in the 70s. They looked at traditional Russia "on potatoes".
        such is the inertia of a large system.
      10. +2
        12 March 2020 09: 13
        Eugene. I completely agree with you. Now the debate on the amendments has ended. And not a single amendment on the national currency. The main thing now is to reduce the dependence of the ruble on exports. Humanitarians are introducing humanitarian amendments. I repeat completely agree with you. Surovo, but it's true.
      11. +13
        12 March 2020 09: 49
        Finches
        Who stole your nickname? Tractors were still in the USSR. And even harvesters. How have cities changed? Died out? The population is falling. To ennoble this business, they enter the environment of these centers in regional centers and regional centers. and it seems like the number is not falling, but growing! And so that revenue does not fall, tariffs are rising! Well, compare the tariffs for light and heat in Moscow and the province! And then compare the salaries! An engineer in the province has 25 thousand, the ceiling is 35! It has long been said. A city with a population of less than a million inhabitants is unprofitable! So millionaires try not to reduce their population so as not to fall under the ax! Working factories ?! You need to see their profile. Pipe factory. Yes! Production increased by 70%! And what will happen after the construction of the flows? Does the government have a development strategy for Russia?
        1. -8
          12 March 2020 10: 14
          hi I didn’t register it - I compared it with the end of the 90s and the beginning of the 2000s, but it makes no sense to compare with the USSR - modern Russia is hopelessly losing on all counts!
          Most often I travel around the country by trains (if time permits) I observe and draw conclusions ... For the sake of objectivity! Yes, and I have something to compare even through the prism of service in the Armed Forces!
          1. +5
            12 March 2020 10: 39
            Quote: Finches
            I usually ride trains

            And there are fewer trains. feel
            1. -5
              12 March 2020 10: 41
              The devil knows - I didn’t count, but those that ride are very different from those that were, though there are still enough old cars, but nevertheless ... All the stations, even small stations - are pleasing to the eye!
              1. +8
                12 March 2020 11: 20
                Quote: Finches
                God knows - I didn’t count

                Easy. By sight, at least from us to Moscow every day the train went, now there are buses. From Moscow to Nizhny Tagil every day trains went, now - every other day. And what became better? I didn’t notice. Unless plugged in sockets.
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                People are more dissecting on their own cars.

                American strategy. They refused public transport in favor of personal transport. What's the point? One train with a couple of drivers will transport an order of magnitude more cargo than a car.
            2. -14
              12 March 2020 11: 03
              There are less trains. People are more dissecting on their own cars. I used to get to my homeland too by train. Now on a typewriter. This is more comfortable.
      12. +8
        12 March 2020 10: 51
        You write everything correctly, only now .. How can I change the system without changing the steering? They are part of the system.
      13. +4
        12 March 2020 15: 34
        I’ll fully support the 90s ... but they ended, .... but we did not develop. For me, the past 20 years is a time of forever missed opportunities.
      14. -3
        12 March 2020 20: 39
        do not mind it. around such articles are usually collected "finished". you still won't explain anything to them.
        here ==> https://topwar.ru/168899-nazvana-sebestoimost-neftedobychi-v-rossii.html
        the guys in the comments correctly painted:
        Sarmat Sanych (Sergey) Today, 15:52
        bayard Today, 11:06
        bayard Today, 20:00
      15. 0
        13 March 2020 08: 28
        The thing is that those who are satisfied with the existing system are completely overwhelmed with Putin personally across their throats. winked And he "offended" the Georgians, and stopped pampering the Ukrainians, and let the Balts go around the world. laughing And Russian Kolomoisky, with the Achmerians and Khodorkovsky and his comrades would have killed, but their hands were short. hi
      16. Qas
        0
        14 March 2020 03: 39
        "... That is - I wrote a thousand times and I will write again - under capitalism, even if you put Jesus Christ at the head of the state - it will be the same! Here, they will pour mud on VO and Jesus, not understanding the main thing - the system must be changed in this case, Political and economic formation is a tram - you can go fast or slow, you can make the passenger inside the cabin warm or cool ... but the tram still goes on the rails regardless of the driver (he is good or not) !! Until our people understand this, there will be no sense! They will, like naive children, believe in elections and amendments to the constitution ... ".
        You live in some other country, but not in the Russian Federation, because:
        1. Yes, change the system, then everyone agrees, only no one REAL and EFFECTIVE plan proposed. You, by the way, too.
        2. About changing the helmsman. It is in Russia that people do not understand that "Putin go away"? Yes, throughout the country there are thousands of dissatisfied situations in the country. The question is just that people are sitting in their kitchens and there they discuss this discontent and not on the streets within the framework provided to them by the still valid Constitution. This means that we need it, the revolutionary situation is not ripe.
        3. Our people are not naive and no one believes in elections and amendments. But there are many people like you, many-voiced and really not offering anything.
    2. -17
      12 March 2020 08: 42
      For example, you can get your head out of your ass and look at the GDP growth chart from 2000 to 2010, and it turns out that it grew exactly as you wanted before the 2008 crisis. But you still have to jump.
      1. +13
        12 March 2020 10: 42
        Quote: EvilLion
        For example, you can get your head out of your ass and look at the graph of GDP growth from 2000 to 2010, and it turns out that it grew exactly as they wanted before the 2008 crisis.

        Is it like that?
    3. +13
      12 March 2020 16: 42
      I’ll tell you guys about the concept of 2020. From Monday to Thursday, every day, I receive information letters from suppliers. The text in the letters is the same. Due to the growth of the dollar, they are forced to raise prices from 10 to 18% on average.
  2. +23
    12 March 2020 05: 18
    It is not Putin's presidencies that are "zeroed", but it seems that the people are "zeroed". brazenly, boorishly, shamelessly.
    1. +25
      12 March 2020 10: 01
      Quote: Aerodrome
      It is not Putin's presidencies that are "zeroed", but it seems that the people are "zeroed". brazenly, boorishly, shamelessly.

      This is called genocide. For those in power, we are simply unnecessary biomass that needs to be fed, treated, taught ... and we still blather. Here's 200 bucks for you, palm oil, bayar, deadwood, oak bark, 20 channels of drain cisterns and Gundyaevskaya glue in your teeth, sit on your pope exactly, don't get ready for more than three, don't grumble, and most importantly don't live long, die right at work, and we’ll steer here for now, we’ll trade your oil, we’ll tell you about the peremogs, in general we’ll "dilute" you thinner, as they taught you "twist, twirl, I want to confuse everyone."
      1. +4
        12 March 2020 21: 40
        I support. Under Yeltsin-Gaidar-Chubais, the genocide was harsh, arrogant, undisguised. Under Putin, genocide is soft, admonishing at "conferences with the people", pleasing the ear with "national projects", depicting a struggle with "external imperialists", noodles. The fence was painted, the Russian flag was hung. The only thing that has been done is to modernize the Armed Forces as much as possible to protect the territory as the fiefdom of the oligarchy.
        1. +14
          12 March 2020 22: 10
          Quote: andrew42
          Under Putin, genocide is soft, admonishing at "conferences with the people", pleasing the ear with "national projects", depicting a struggle with "external imperialists", noodles. The fence was painted, the Russian flag was hung. The only thing that has been done is to modernize the Armed Forces as much as possible to protect the territory as the fiefdom of the oligarchy.

          That's right, Comrade. Gorbach rocked the country, Ebn acted as a Trojan horse and broke everything together with the country, and Putin is already acting as a guardian and multiplier of Ebn's "achievements." To be honest, all the main destructive reforms were carried out under Putin, starting from the destruction and privatization of RAO UES , the flooding of the WORLD, the monetization of benefits, pension reform, when pensioners were robbed for the first time, the introduction of the Unified State Exam followed by the collapse of education, the destruction of science, the liquidation of industry, the surrender of Lourdes and Camrani, the destruction of health care, the surrender of the territory, finally, an increase in the retirement age so that the plebs die directly at work .. If you forgot something, those who wish can add, there are still many "glorious" deeds and deeds of a PVV citizen.
  3. +27
    12 March 2020 05: 32
    Let the square-headed ones zap me, but this will not change the fact that at the helm of our country is an outspoken enemy, who has clung to his chair and is ready to drag the whole country into the grave.
    1. +10
      12 March 2020 05: 59
      Quote: snifer
      at the helm of our country

      The Washington regional committee acts!
      1. +14
        12 March 2020 07: 36
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Quote: snifer
        at the helm of our country

        The Washington regional committee acts!

        So there are Gauleiters appointed by the West to pump out resources ...
    2. +25
      12 March 2020 06: 16
      I agree! +++++++
      This guarantor, with his thief friends, did to Russia what all of Europe could not do with it together with Napoleon and Hitler!
      The guarantor will finish Russia. And to achieve this goal he will do anything.
      1. +14
        12 March 2020 06: 52
        Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
        The guarantor will finish Russia.


        Better a terrible end than horror without end. Unfortunately, the truth can only reach the people.
        Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi


        This guarantor, with his thief friends, did to Russia what all of Europe could not do with it together with Napoleon and Hitler!
        The guarantor will finish Russia. And to achieve this goal he will do anything.
    3. +11
      12 March 2020 06: 22
      Quote: snifer
      an outright enemy stands at the helm of our country

      Why is it an enemy right away, it’s just that the Kremlin and I seem to be different from Russia.
      1. +15
        12 March 2020 06: 54
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Why is it an enemy right away, it’s just that the Kremlin and I seem to be different from Russia.


        Exactly, our Russia is so polar that very soon we will be enemies
    4. -29
      12 March 2020 08: 10
      No, everything is fine, now VO has a different conjuncture, if you want a lot of pluses for shit on GDP, you can attribute to him all the troubles of Russia! Clogged at your home points is Putin, the enemy of the people laughing
      1. -27
        12 March 2020 09: 04
        These are always flocking. Which, in fact, can be seen by cons. But not for long.
        This is probably a small group, with a dozen accounts each. The easiest way.
        They do not always fly in, they don’t have time, it’s evident that they are operating in other places.
        The conclusion is simple - dirty, rather primitive work on order, painted hastily in communist colors - it seems to the authors of the concept that it is time to lie about communism, there are fewer and fewer people living there.
        The goal is clear and obvious - to undermine power in ANY WAY. Especially in a situation where everything is really not simple (as it happens with any government in any country).
        Were there even Putin, even Kukutin, even Grudinin (although in the latter case, probably, liberalism and capitalism would again have fiercely advocated here).
        Not everyone understandably does it consciously. There are also "shura" with narrow-minded brainwashed, who "opened their eyes."
        Is it possible to deal with this? Not everywhere. For example, everything is determined by the administration on the VO.
        If such groups of fighters against the regime are furious here, then it means that it is beneficial for the administration.
        You can simply shake off this hassle from the monitor, and continue to work.
        1. -19
          12 March 2020 09: 12
          There is truth in your words!
          1. -18
            12 March 2020 09: 53
            Judging by the reaction, they are still sitting. Although it is possible that the main team ditched, the "shura" remained.
        2. +25
          12 March 2020 10: 20
          Quote: Mestny
          undermine power in ANY WAY.

          and who pins her? Power itself!
          Why did the ruble fall? Putin’s decision to help China recover from a coronovirus with low oil prices. They slammed the door to OPEC. When Novak defiantly left the negotiations, the crown prince wanted to call Putin to stop the demarche. Putin refused to speak with him. The Saudis decided to punish Russia and collapsed the price of oil. The steering wheel crashed. Putin rushed to call the crown prince, was refused. Today, Iraq and Kuwait have joined in this. Gas prices also fell by 20%. What ended the battle of the USSR and the SA? Thus, the share of oil and gas imports in the Union was 8–9%, and that of present-day Russia, up to 35%. See how it ends?
          Hope for funds and gold are illusive - they will be stolen faster than in a year. Now Rosneft, Lukoil will be in the cons. They’ll go to Putin for money and he will definitely help them. To the population - no, yes. It has always been that way. : years is the decline in income. Do you think that the law of the transition of quantity into quality will not work? It will work. The laws of dialectics have not been canceled.
          And this is against the backdrop of the problems of the global economy!
          1. +2
            12 March 2020 13: 50
            I absolutely agree with your opinion!
        3. +10
          12 March 2020 10: 55
          Quote: Mestny
          This is probably a small group, with a dozen accounts each.

          Quote: Finches
          There is truth in your words!

          But for this and get the minus. Personally, I only got out of the bathhouse on the 9th. wink
      2. +16
        12 March 2020 09: 49
        It's funny Yeltsin is scolded. Brezhnev scolded. Stalin scolded. Tsar Nicholas is also scolded. And only Putin has nothing to do with it. But if he had nothing to do with it everywhere, then why should he?
        1. -16
          12 March 2020 10: 08
          And Putin scold, calm down. And the arguments are the same.
        2. -9
          12 March 2020 10: 22
          Of all of the above, I personally criticize only Yeltsin and Nikolai - so not all and not all! hi
      3. +8
        12 March 2020 10: 44
        Quote: Finches
        Clogged at your home points is Putin, the enemy of the people

        Personally, I clean my push myself. If anything, I can send a cable, I have two of them. laughing
    5. -17
      12 March 2020 09: 24
      If it were not for this "enemy", the country, under the strict leadership of Bori Koldyr, would have collapsed at the beginning of the XNUMXs.
      1. +9
        12 March 2020 11: 50
        AND? Now he has indulgence in absolutely any actions?
    6. +19
      12 March 2020 09: 49
      Quote: snifer
      Let the square-headed ones zap me, but this will not change the fact that at the helm of our country is an outspoken enemy, who has clung to his chair and is ready to drag the whole country into the grave.

      And why minus that? This is the true TRUTH! Accordingly, +100500.
    7. 0
      13 March 2020 09: 21
      What grave? After EBNa 90s then? You must have been buzzing about at flea markets then - now without work.
      1. +2
        13 March 2020 10: 41
        Quote: Alex Nevs
        After EBNa 90s then? You must have been buzzing about at flea markets then - now without work.

        Personally, I worked. ZIL branch. Now I’m sitting without work, I’m clipping advertising articles. Stumble?
  4. +24
    12 March 2020 05: 44
    And at the same time, any hint of the introduction of a progressive income tax is perceived simply as a kind of attempt on the sacred.

    Putin has already been asked a question about why he doesn’t want to introduce a progressive income tax scale and raise taxes for rich people and lower taxes for poor people. To which the president replied:
    “If we introduce a progressive taxation scale in Russia, then wealthy citizens will cease to pay taxes at all, begin to conceal their income and look for loopholes for withdrawing money from the tax base. And now, against the general background of revenues, tax is just a small part, and everyone is regularly paying ”
    One gets the feeling that the president cares more not about ordinary people, about how to improve his life, but about oligarchs.
    1. +24
      12 March 2020 06: 58
      Quote: DMB 75
      the president is more concerned not with ordinary people


      Remember the amendment on the real estate of officials! At first he said that it was dangerous for the country, and yesterday, that then officials would have to sell everything and therefore “we have a free country” ... for crooks and thieves.
      Who covers crooks and thieves?
      1. -18
        12 March 2020 09: 23
        The previous government, the communist, then the fighters against the regime were accused of exactly the same thing. In the same expressions, with the same popular groan - "who covers the crooks and thieves?"
        How it ended, many more remember personally, not from the Internet.
        Why should it end differently now?
        1. +19
          12 March 2020 09: 28
          Quote: Mestny
          Why should it end differently now?

          That is precisely why it will end. And how the current government stigmatizes the Communists! As demonstrated unity with the people! And they themselves were even worse.
          1. -11
            12 March 2020 09: 32
            It's not that.
            The fact is that such a fierce struggle (even if not just this Internet boltology) can lead to exactly the same result - the next collapse and collapse of the country.
            Do we need it? Even in the name of another bright future?
            After all, it is implied that the "bad government" will collapse, and instead of it will come "good", correct - and start to care about the people? Prosperity will come - she will say - but not right away, you have to wait, be patient.
            Again.
            I understand correctly?
            1. +15
              12 March 2020 10: 08
              Quote: Mestny
              such a fierce struggle (even if not just this Internet boltology) can lead to exactly the same result - another collapse and collapse of the country.

              Quote: Mestny
              I understand correctly?

              correctly! Therefore, the authorities had to do everything to prevent this struggle. But she does not decide. Therefore, she herself leads everything to collapse.
              1. -12
                12 March 2020 10: 11
                The situation is such that no matter how you do it, no matter how you turn it, all the same the intensity of the struggle will be only greater.
                The thing is who stimulates and directs this struggle.
                1. +20
                  12 March 2020 10: 25
                  Quote: Mestny
                  The thing is who stimulates and directs this struggle.

                  Putin WITH FRIENDS against the country!
                  1. -6
                    12 March 2020 11: 48
                    This is a question for those who are not affected by brain borbism.
            2. +4
              12 March 2020 13: 36
              The collapse and collapse of the country is just around the corner, it is unlikely that people will look at what is happening in the country through the eyes of a cat from the cartoon about Shrek. All the most interesting will begin after the adoption of amendments to the Constitution. Then it will be interesting for me to read your comments. Do not disappear only!
              1. 0
                13 March 2020 09: 22
                Do you want to say - we are going down to 90 EBN?
        2. +2
          12 March 2020 18: 50
          Quote: Mestny
          The previous power, the communist one, the then fighters against the regime accused of exactly the same thing.

          Orders of magnitude less. The director of the Ocean deli was shot. Yes, damn it, they could enter any tent of the OBKhSS.
    2. +9
      12 March 2020 07: 52
      This is not a feeling)
      1. +16
        12 March 2020 09: 03
        Oh, those notorious amendments to the Constitution. There, among the "garbage" for "covering up the eyes of the plebs," are hidden "necessary to understand" amendments, well, for example:
        Article 67:

        It was:
        The territory of the Russian Federation includes the territories of its constituent entities, inland waters and the territorial sea, and the airspace above them.

        After:
        The territory of the Russian Federation includes the territories of its constituent entities, inland waters and the territorial sea, and the airspace above them. In the territory of the Russian Federation, federal territories may be created in accordance with federal law. The organization of public authority in the federal territories is established by the specified federal law.

        Comments:
        In other words, Moscow (the federal center) stands for the constitutional right to alienate ANY territories of interest to it, in ANY region of the Russian Federation. If it’s rude, tomorrow Chechnya may become a territory of federal significance and managed exclusively from Moscow, or Voronezh may lose the Novovoronezh NPP, the VASO Plant (it will go under Moscow control along with all taxes), and let the rest of the territory survive as it wants!

        Well, or "in accordance with federal law, federal territories can be created."
        Previously, there were only "boundaries of subjects by mutual agreement". Now it turns out that you can create your own autonomy, create a district, introduce your own laws, etc., so what? That is, in this way, the provision on the independence of the previously invented TORs is consolidated. Cool yes, it will be possible to create your own "state in the state" and why should I, all this rest of Russia. wink
        1. +2
          12 March 2020 13: 57
          "Ruble" for example fellow
  5. -9
    12 March 2020 05: 52
    Interesting, but a professor at the HSE teaches? ... feel
  6. +14
    12 March 2020 06: 09
    Apart from the "naphthalene concept", the authors did not write anything new. Essentially an obituary for economic policy.
    Need your de Gaulle, say Chalov, Galitsky or someone else. And support the power of some uncompromising military. We need a man who will unite many: from anarchists to monarchists. Maybe he will be able to control the elite that has fallen off the coils ... Otherwise, 1605 and 1918 at the same time.
    1. +16
      12 March 2020 07: 00
      Quote: samarin1969
      Need a man


      He is not here. Belief in one’s own infallibility, the messiah and fear of losing power have cleared a political clearing.
      1. +13
        12 March 2020 07: 54
        Yes, but they will not be given a chance to get "on the galley".
        1. -17
          12 March 2020 09: 06
          Well?
          Who is it? Surname, I beg.
          1. +6
            12 March 2020 12: 19
            Can't you not put Monomakh’s hat on someone? What does a specific surname have to do with it? Any person who created a sufficiently large enterprise from scratch will definitely be no worse than an intelligence agent or a party functionary.
        2. +15
          12 March 2020 09: 08
          To the galley ... For some, it is revered for happiness, to row for the glory of GDP:
          1. -16
            12 March 2020 09: 37
            And whose happiness are you jumping for? These are all right, understandably - for Putin. (And this, of course, is unacceptable in your opinion. How is it to work in one’s own country? Is Putin ruled there?)
            And who are you for?
            For himself and for the people - does not fit, just past.
            1. +9
              12 March 2020 11: 04
              Quote: Mestny
              For himself and for the people - does not fit, just past.

              If you allow those who don’t have it to your computer, your hair will stand on end.
              1. -8
                12 March 2020 11: 47
                Take care of your hair.
                I know a lot of people who have it, but they say and write something completely different. Do not cry or cry in a variety of discussions about the same thing.
                And those who do not have it have very few left. Even in remote villages, the Internet is being successfully introduced. What has Putin brought the country to?
                1. +7
                  12 March 2020 11: 52
                  Quote: Mestny
                  And those who do not have it have very few left.

                  You would be fucked that my dad wanted to write to Putin when he saw my computer.
                2. +4
                  12 March 2020 14: 12
                  Saw! As in the Vladimir region in our village, the Internet is being introduced. The guys from Mosenergo arrived and began to measure the voltage of the wires from the poles. Now it is March, there are five people in the whole village, the rest are summer residents. I happened to be. Power engineers ask, having measured the wire from the pole with a long pole with the device: "Is something turned on for you?" The answer is: "only a switchboard with a router." Some boss runs up: "Do you have the Internet?" The answer is: "Yes, and not bad!" He dials on his cell phone (and we have it, the connection is disgusting) and broadcasts to someone: "There is Internet in Vasilyevka!" And runs away to the "Loaf". I chased him: "Wait, I have a special antenna for the router ... When will you bring the gas to the village? When can you turn off the bezpereboynik?" But the bosses have already left ...
            2. +5
              12 March 2020 12: 10
              That's generally no matter who specifically rules. The problem is that each ruler bends the system for himself (what the current one is doing). And MECHANISMS are needed to ensure the direction of development, regardless of the particular leader and the border beyond which there is no way to go. It is these borders that ensure the independence of the branches of government.
              That which did not remain at all.
              In 98, the Constitutional Court did not "zero" the terms of Yeltsin.
              "Is the term for the exercise of the powers of the President of the Russian Federation specified in paragraph 3 of section two" Final and Transitional Provisions "of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the first of the two terms provided for by its Article 81 (part 3). The State Duma believes that in the next elections for the office of President Only a person who has not previously held this position may be elected to the Russian Federation. "
              There are doubts that this time will not bend under the current moment?
    2. +13
      12 March 2020 07: 03
      And how sorry can you combine the poor and the oligarchs? Government and people. As stated in one film, the government lives on another planet. And what to talk about with them. 30 years of cheating.
      1. -22
        12 March 2020 09: 08
        Read the Internet less. What they write there is another planet really.
        So your suspicion is not without reason. Just the opposite.
        1. +15
          12 March 2020 10: 22
          You are interesting people ... I’ve been here too, many people have tried to learn life, you don’t read the newspapers, don’t watch the Internet ... Do you listen only to Kiseleva and Soloviev on TV? Only there is no truth, is it your opinion? "Doubt is half wisdom. One cannot be trusted with one television ..."
          1. -2
            12 March 2020 11: 43
            This is when how. Sometimes doubt is half paranoia.
            You can watch and listen to everything. It’s only worth understanding - it is written and said by specific people for a specific purpose. Not for the purpose of conveying the truth to you, no.
            Conclusions from this must be able to do.
    3. +7
      12 March 2020 13: 57
      Well, for example, Zentsov R.P. and Kvachkov V.V. Do you think they are suitable?
    4. 0
      13 March 2020 09: 25
      Yeltsin! Under the scruff of the eye. I almost danced in the 90s.
  7. +5
    12 March 2020 06: 11
    Putin will be our everything. Putin will be forever.
  8. +19
    12 March 2020 06: 18
    Yesterday I bought a pack of butter produced in the Komi Republic. The cost until March 8, 109 rubles for a 200g pack, yesterday 119 rubles. Where is the connection with oil, currency and coronovirus. A purely speculative maneuver, either of the manufacturer, or of the intermediary. Any instability of the ruble, oil, no matter up or down, leads to higher prices. And there the ratchet principle works, once rising, the price does not fall.
    1. +18
      12 March 2020 07: 32
      Trading networks make allowances as they like. There, the plug is generally almost uncontrollable: from 100 to 300% or more - easily. It could be classified as anecdotes if this were not true:
      Prices for imported goods increased - the dollar jumped. And why domestic? They answer: - So we carry them in an imported car ...
      FAS just smokes aside and, by analogy with law enforcement officers, instead of crooks, chases peasants with a can of beer.
      1. -1
        14 March 2020 11: 38
        As a network worker, I’ll say that you write nonsense that you don’t understand, with respect.
        1. 0
          16 March 2020 14: 53
          To dispel your virtual world: open agrobazar.ru find the wholesale prices in your region and since you are such a great specialist in prices, take the trouble to explain where the retail price comes from.
          1. 0
            16 March 2020 15: 38
            The network is to blame, you're right, they spin 500% of the margin and ruined the whole economy
            1. 0
              17 March 2020 06: 17
              Quote: Clever man
              The network is to blame, you're right, they spin 500% of the margin and ruined the whole economy

              That is, "as a network worker" you are not aware of pricing at all. Bargaining network is not the only one, but a key player in perverting the distribution of goods. I would applaud the ability to cut down excess profits by masking excess profits into costs if there was a sane alternative to this process of moving goods to the consumer. But, sorry, I won't.
              1. 0
                17 March 2020 07: 57
                No, the networks are to blame, they are under the control of the trump and the State Department wielding in the pockets of citizens, continue to watch ren TV
                1. 0
                  17 March 2020 08: 01
                  You are predictably clueless in trolling. Come next semester.
                  1. 0
                    17 March 2020 08: 24
                    You have to go to the agrobazar)
    2. 0
      14 March 2020 11: 37
      Everything is just a dollar more expensive and oil more expensive, which means raw materials or imported equipment
  9. +16
    12 March 2020 06: 34
    I don’t know how to cook, but as you can see the master of sports is not able to rule the state
    1. +11
      12 March 2020 08: 45
      Come on, not "can", even how "can" - he has been "managing" for already 20 years, and he is also "reset to zero" - so all the control ", he likes that without him," Nunikak ":
      1. -12
        12 March 2020 09: 39
        What is undermining? Are these cheap pictures self-made, or are they handed out there with a training manual?
        Primitively. We have to work harder.
        1. -2
          13 March 2020 09: 26
          Former hucksters minus. After all, they are sitting without huckster "work".
          1. +1
            13 March 2020 10: 46
            Quote: Alex Nevs
            Former hucksters minus. After all, they are sitting without huckster "work".

            I am a minasonul. Never been a huckster.
      2. +4
        12 March 2020 15: 27
        We must also add what the cats think about: "Listen Volodya. Stop sleeping! Get the Whiskas out of the fridge! I already want to eat ..."
  10. +14
    12 March 2020 07: 02
    Yes, everything is fine, in the country of victorious capitalism, the rich are getting richer, the poor are poorer ... And what would not be so sad, it’s time for our TV to replay the series "The rich, they also cry" ... to ease social tension ... laughing
    1. +11
      12 March 2020 07: 14
      Quote: parusnik
      it's time for our TV to replay the series "The rich also cry"

      And Kashpirovsky at the same time, otherwise the people were completely loose. With Chumak as a free pill.
    2. +8
      12 March 2020 08: 48
      Quote: parusnik
      Yes, everything is fine, in the country of victorious capitalism, the rich are getting richer, the poor are poorer ... And what would not be so sad, it’s time for our TV to replay the series "The rich, they also cry" ... to ease social tension ... laughing

      And you didn’t notice, Alexey, that such negative The series is already there! Apparently, not up to you! No, that would be a day off to see and cry over their fate. Probably you have no day off ...
      Called ----secret for a million !! There, the rich and famous reveal a terrible personal secret to everyone. crying crying
      1. +5
        12 March 2020 11: 06
        Quote: Reptiloid
        Called ---- the secret to a million !!

        No, just Maria is closer to us somehow. Together with slave Izaura.
        1. +5
          12 March 2020 14: 11
          hi welcome, Vladimir!
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          ..... just Maria is closer to us somehow. Together with slave Izaura.
          You are absolutely right! The suffering beauties of distant slaveholding, tropical Brazil and Mexico, the end of the last century ----- .. we are somehow closer and dearer! (((((Than millionaires flaunting all that .....)))).
          How they worked on my baby soul! Ebony, Indian women, black women, illegitimate children, beauties punished by the planter, crimes .....
          1. +3
            12 March 2020 18: 37
            Quote: Reptiloid
            How they worked on my baby soul! Ebony, Indian women, black women, illegitimate children, beauties punished by the planter, crimes .....

            And Dad and I spat, and went away, wherever our eyes looked. But mother and sister cannot be torn off the screen ... Like a granny from Kashpirovsky .. request
            1. +1
              12 March 2020 19: 14
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              Quote: Reptiloid
              ..... Ebony, Indian women, black women, illegitimate children, ....

              And Dad and I spat, and went away, wherever our eyes looked. ..... request
              It’s good that we could leave, and my mom and I just from the Far East, a new city for me, ((although I was born in Leningrad)), a new house and I'm 6 years old. Mom at work. Grandma at tv. But ------- without Kashpirovsky and Chumak .. but after a year another -----Resuscitator, Blood and guts, Thirst for death. . . .... This is in elementary school already
              1. +3
                12 March 2020 19: 23
                Quote: Reptiloid
                but after a year another ----- Resuscitator, Blood and guts, Thirst for death. . . ....

                The first A-class film was shown in 94th. "Rock climber". I remember that exactly. And then off we go ... Pulp fiction, erotica on TV-6 (by the way, there is a cassette), erotica on NTV ...
                1. +2
                  12 March 2020 19: 27
                  Since 92 we have appeared cable TV, of poor quality, however, but also cartoons. ...
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  but after a year another ----- Resuscitator, Blood and guts, Thirst for death. . . ....

                  The first A-class film was shown in 94th. "Rock climber". I remember that exactly. And then off we go ... Pulp fiction, erotica on TV-6 (by the way, there is a cassette), erotica on NTV ...
                  1. +1
                    12 March 2020 19: 33
                    Eh, no. I'm not talking about that. I remember exactly that the first class "A" movie was shown either in 94, or in 95th year. And the first movie on the screen was Rock Climber. Well, in our city, cable TV appeared in the 96th. And before that, we ourselves made the UHF antennas and stole from multizazhek.
                    1. +2
                      12 March 2020 19: 43
                      Everywhere in different ways. We do not get such an area from the TV tower. Translated directly during the film, somehow, there were different translators. laughing wassat
                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      Eh, no. I'm not talking about that. I remember exactly that the first class "A" movie was shown either in 94, or in 95th year. And the first movie on the screen was Rock Climber. Well, in our city, cable TV appeared in the 96th. And before that, we ourselves made the UHF antennas and stole from multizazhek.
                      1. +1
                        12 March 2020 20: 01
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Everywhere in different ways.

                        Back in 89, we had an advertisement: "Shell! This is crazy!", And Granny Yozhka was promoting some kind of chocolate bar. Tikki So it seems, but I don't remember exactly.
                      2. +2
                        12 March 2020 21: 17
                        In 89m laughing lol wassat I still did not imagine anything like that on the Far East .....
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx

                        Back in 89, we had an advertisement: "Shell! This is crazy!", And Granny Yozhka was promoting some kind of chocolate bar. Tikki So it seems, but I don't remember exactly.
                      3. +1
                        13 March 2020 10: 52
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        In 89m, I still couldn’t even imagine anything like that .....

                        Yes it was. English films were shown. Type "Board". There, the one-eyed dude was carrying a board ...
                      4. +1
                        13 March 2020 17: 50
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        In 89m, I still couldn’t even imagine anything like that .....

                        Yes it was. English films were shown. Type "Board". There, the one-eyed dude was carrying a board ...
                        89th? good there on the Far East somehow was different with the TV, but I don’t remember.
                      5. +1
                        13 March 2020 18: 00
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        89th?

                        Yes, or somewhere 88th, I don’t remember exactly. I inserted the DVK device on the TV at that time and the adapter was soldered to the computer ...
                      6. +1
                        13 March 2020 18: 04
                        A computer? While? You know how to surprise!
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Quote: Re ptiloid
                        89th?

                        Yes, or somewhere 88th, I don’t remember exactly. I inserted the DVK device on the TV at that time and the adapter was soldered to the computer ...
                      7. -1
                        13 March 2020 18: 14
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        You know how to surprise!

                        I'm lying. In '88, my son-in-law brought me a Vidak and we watched porn on him. And I bought a computer in 91, I remember how "Swan Lake" was shown, and I soldered the plug.
                      8. 0
                        13 March 2020 19: 51
                        All the same in the forefront. When only appeared. We had something later ----- in 2002. At that time half already had work. Masyanya watched laughing wassat
                      9. -1
                        13 March 2020 20: 56
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Masyanya watched

                        I have never respected the enta cat. A neighbor somehow dragged in: "Here's Masyanya!" This, damn it, Masyanya tore off all the wallpaper.
      2. +3
        12 March 2020 15: 32
        I’m not talking about the rich people who cry .. and the more so
        1. +2
          12 March 2020 15: 50
          Quote: parusnik
          I’m not talking about the rich people who cry .. and the more so
          When they showed Isaur or Maria or Santa Barbara, you, Alexei, already had the opportunity of freedom of choice good , and I didn’t have then --- grandmother will turn on the TV and not hide anywhere from either the slave nor from Santa Barbara.
          I don’t look about domestic suffering, but often advertisements for that suffering.
          I have another ---- no days off, practically. You probably have no days off.
  11. +2
    12 March 2020 07: 19
    Just capitalism! It’s just that the ruling class is preoccupied with fulfilling its interests, and this is not what is necessary for the development of the country and improving the welfare of citizens.
    There is also an intersection of the interests of capitalists and the state, but it’s very at the discretion of the ruling elite and the rich ... the masses are just an accompanying attribute that can’t be completely eliminated!
    1. -11
      12 March 2020 09: 47
      Once upon a time, the Jewish scholar K. Marx predicted the imminent collapse of capitalism. Soon, soon.
      In the former Russia (which was broken in the struggle against "the power of crooks and thieves, by the way) they tried to arrange everything according to the precepts of this leader. The result was an unviable, man-hating chimera - War Communism. Fortunately, it did not last long.
      And capitalism is alive as if nothing had happened. and survived the war, and crises.
      So no, again we need to shake out this greatest work from the grave, and again shake it at every corner. What for?
      Yes, really. Break it all again. Of course against crooks and thieves for all the good.
      They haven’t learned anything.
      1. +3
        12 March 2020 10: 14
        But the fundamentals do not change, the confrontation of those who work and those who appropriate the results of their work ... the system is established, but not eternal, like everything else in this world.
        Humanity will still step over this stage of development, as well as through all the previous ones ... unless it dies itself before that, of course.
      2. +17
        12 March 2020 10: 23
        Quote: Mestny
        And capitalism is alive as if nothing had happened. and survived wars and crises

        so is capitalism! He is not in Russia! Feudalism yes
        1. -9
          12 March 2020 11: 26
          So what are you going to build after the bloody regime?
          1. +10
            12 March 2020 11: 35
            Quote: Mestny
            So what are you going to build after the bloody regime?

            why is he bloody? he is stupid
            1. -4
              12 March 2020 11: 40
              Never mind.
              What are you going to build? Soviet-style socialism failed. Capitalism has not yet been built.
              So that?
              1. +13
                12 March 2020 11: 43
                Quote: Mestny
                What are you going to build?

                no matter what it will be called. The main thing is to live comfortably in the country. China does not bother with theoretical issues
        2. +1
          12 March 2020 16: 12
          That's right. Moreover, Russia and capitalism.
          We have not seen capitalism here.
          This is feudalism, a maximum interspersed with capitalism, which does not cancel it.
          Feudalism is a more convenient form of government, since it is more stable and does not presuppose agreements with the "masses" on the legitimacy of property rights, but relies on the "natural right of force" to appropriate, and so on.
  12. +16
    12 March 2020 07: 51
    Quote: snifer
    Let the square-headed ones zap me, but this will not change the fact that at the helm of our country is an outspoken enemy, who has clung to his chair and is ready to drag the whole country into the grave.


    So he understands to what level we went down ...
    The facts I say:
    1. The level of perception of corruption 135 out of 180
    2. Average income in African countries
    3. The decline in the population of both those leaving and those who want to leave, as well as the mortality rate
    4. Demography is generally OUT of reason and history! A nation is dying without war!
    In general, "covers" as soon as you start to think, you can continue on many points the courts, education, medicine, etc.

    BUT
    Billionaires, the largest yachts, magnificent palaces every year only +

    Moreover, the country
    Leader in oil production, gas, gold, metals, coal, wood

    Where is everyone? How to live on 10800 rubles was the question? Thinking after 20 years of rule?

    Where are our allies? Nicaragua? Venezuela? Just a couple more!

    This is not a government of the country! It is a crime!

    Why am I all this ... he understands that if you stir up the hive that he created, you and his close ones need to be planted! Therefore, the only way out is for everyone and everyone to hold on to the chair to the grave, BUT and we need to think.
    What is the strength? In the people! In the people who can not be broken and who will fight to the last. How our grandfathers fought.
    And those who ode to the tsar are the very ones who served the Germans during the war, because the stew is warm ...
    And there were those who fought no matter what!
    Get up a huge country! Get up!
    1. -4
      12 March 2020 07: 59
      "I propose to discard all complex political science constructions and just clearly answer the question of the conditional Ivan from Chelyabinsk, who receives 35 thousand rubles in hazardous production and early impotence due to poor ecology. This Ivan, in addition to the question:" Why Putin again? " , for example, regarding how to pay him a one-year debt on a microloan (200%), pay 5 thousand rubles for a loan and dress a child for the summer season. "And if I vote against, something will change?" you are almost a close friend from the Urals.
      In 2018, the presidential elections were also of a referendum type. The Russians were supposed to either provide support or express their warm approval to the current president. And they warmly supported. Many treated this as a kind of "demobilization chord". Eeeeee? ...

      In fact, your Ivan will not have any questions. If your conditional Ivan were able to ask such questions, from somewhere in 2012 everything would have gone differently. And while we are racking our brains for Ivan, he goes and provides Stakhanov’s 65-70% support.
      And then he bites his elbows, how did it happen that he still has nothing to feed his family, despite all the guarantees of the Guarantor. "
      1. -10
        12 March 2020 09: 14
        Quote: unaha
        In fact, your Ivan will not have any questions. If your conditional Ivan were able to ask such questions, from somewhere in 2012 everything would have gone differently.

        Yes, differently. “Ivan” would not take a microloan at 200%, he would find himself a business without losing his potency, perhaps even an independent one.
        But it is necessary to have brains, and courage.
        It is much easier to read on the Internet that there are such kind people as you who will give everything to him anyway - you just need to throw off the power.
        1. +2
          12 March 2020 11: 46
          Those. completely legal, fair turnover of power is now called "overthrow"?
      2. +2
        12 March 2020 16: 15
        And then again "it goes and provides Stakhanov's 65-70% support."
        Yes there is such ....
  13. 0
    12 March 2020 08: 29
    Defeat does not recognize excuses, nor does victory require explanation
    1. -13
      12 March 2020 09: 18
      Defeat has not yet occurred. Only in the heads of the fighters with the regime.
      1. +12
        12 March 2020 17: 06
        Quote: Mestny
        Defeat has not yet occurred.

        but the beginning of it is visible, look how Putin fusses with the constitution, for 1. 5 months he turned everything over and everything for his own sake. Where are we in a hurry?
  14. -9
    12 March 2020 08: 40
    Do not pour mud on Putin while drinking whiskey in the resorts of Turkey.
  15. +7
    12 March 2020 08: 49
    Well, who else believes in prices ???

    In retirement, on a flight to the moon by ... a year, in National programs and "dust will be forced to swallow in England" ????
  16. +8
    12 March 2020 09: 10
    I don’t want to upset anyone, but 99,999999 of the Russian population do not understand what small business is. Everyone thinks it’s opened a shawarma, and this is a small business .. Naive.

    Medium-sized business - income (not to be confused with turnover) 2 billion rubles.
    Small - 800 million
    Microenterprise - 120 million

    This is to you why all their ideas that small and medium-sized businesses should bring more than 40 percent of the revenue to the treasury are fantastic.
    I was at a regional seminar on entrepreneurship, everyone was neighing for a long time, because most of the people there do not have 120 million income even a year, but they demand 800 or more.

    Moreover, all the support to business is almost only on paper (with the possible exception of Skolkovo, but there is a turn of those who want it), because if you get at least some kind of tax or insurance benefit, you start getting a tax with checks, because they have a tax collection plan, they are not interested that he was going down. The grants themselves are cheap (for example, 300 thousand rubles), loans too .. such as up to 10 million at 6-9 per annum. That's just providing them with real estate, and the amount is clearly small in order to open a SMALL business with an income of 800 million per year

    I walked around there for a couple of days and realized, yes, you go with your "business support" respected three-letter officials, together with your government. They do everything just for show, like there is a program, but the fact that it does not work .. so it's stupid people. (Cut by censorship) in one word
  17. -7
    12 March 2020 09: 30
    For a person with a normal psyche, all this ringing does not mean anything. The Russian man has not seen such a thing. What is the cheese boron about? Maybe we give our land? Worse when a person perceives it closely. He begins to groan, supposedly squeeze reptiles. And having heard a strict who is shaking, he says that they are shaking the chobots. We will vote for the Duma, we must have real people from industry, scientists in it, otherwise we will get another Duma from the time of Kerensky.
    1. +5
      12 March 2020 09: 47
      Quote: nikvic46
      Worse when a person perceives it closely. He begins to groan, supposedly squeeze reptiles.

      M.E. Saltykov-Shchedrin wrote about it like this:
      "A man is not even afraid of domestic politics, because he simply does not understand it. No matter how you pester him, he will still think that this is not" domestic politics ", but simply divine allowance, like pestilence, hunger, flooding with that The only difference is that this time the embodiment of this allowance is the pompadour. Does he need to understand what domestic politics is? Opinions on this matter may be different, but I, for my part, say directly - beware gentlemen! Because as soon as a man will understand what internal politics is - ni-ni, c'est fini! (it will be all over with you) ".

      Quote: nikvic46
      We will vote for the Duma, it is necessary that there were real people

      When we vote, it will be too late since we will be given the right to choose only from those whom they designate. Until we ourselves nominate a candidate who cares for our interests from our ranks, we will choose only those who care about their interests i.e. nothing will change.
      1. -16
        12 March 2020 09: 51
        Well, put forward !!!!!!
        What is stopping you?
        And then, no matter how the opposition leader is, it is necessary either corruption, or accounts in foreign banks, or he sat behind the economy in half with murders.
        1. +9
          12 March 2020 10: 00
          Quote: Mestny
          Well, put forward !!!!!! What is stopping you?

          If it were that simple.
          In order to register a candidate, first you need to find someone who will rush into the embrasure, among other things, you need an overwhelming sum of money for ordinary mortals, but to prevent people from throwing themselves away, on TV and so on. Media talk about all kinds of scammers and other financial pyramids. This law on the requirements for the candidate was adopted specifically so that the candidate from the people would never come into power. You know about the police, the judiciary and other gangsters in and out of power. Dragged to power, it just will not give up.
          1. -8
            12 March 2020 10: 14
            Ah, so this is not easy?
            So maybe steering the country is also not easy?
            Dropping to power - where did they break into it? Not from the notorious people?
            And if so, then the next "seized" will be no better than these.
            Why? From the same people.
            1. +8
              12 March 2020 10: 42
              Quote: Mestny
              Why? From the same people.

              Stalin was the same from the common people.
              1. -8
                12 March 2020 11: 34
                What he really was - fiercely arguing myth-makers on both sides.
                The only thing that can be reliably said - yes, he was.
                1. +6
                  12 March 2020 12: 09
                  With Stalin, everything is simple. You can see the results of his work in business. But on the issue of personnel elevator, he did not have time or failed to achieve the desired result.
                  And we are observing the outcome now.
                  The question is more philosophical how long a successful system can be stable. Life is arranged in such a way that there is a constant change and replacement. For some reason, a person believes that development proceeds in a spiral. But it seems true mechanisms are much more complex and not subject to the awareness of the human mind.
                  Simplified, you can say "The ways of the Lord are inscrutable .."
                  Well, in tactics, a person can undoubtedly decide certain things.
                  The most ambitious project to form a new person burst without starting.
                2. -2
                  12 March 2020 16: 19
                  What pinned you? And you immediately into philosophy: a dream about not a dream and a dream about a dream)))
            2. +1
              12 March 2020 11: 19
              I agree with you, not everyone who seizes is able to competently manage the country.
              Putin has a power component, but in terms of state-building, it’s weak at the forefront. Well, it doesn’t come out of him.
              Now, if you look at his games in the night hockey league, then that's how he plays construction in the country.
              There is an account, but no game!
              1. +8
                12 March 2020 17: 07
                Quote: Campanella
                ... and in terms of state building is weak to the fore.

                it’s for sure that they don’t do it;
          2. +10
            12 March 2020 10: 24
            Quote: Boris55
            You know about the police, the judiciary and other gangsters in and out of power. Dragged to power, it just will not give up.

            and where should the peasant go? How to change life for the better? laughing
            1. +3
              12 March 2020 10: 38
              Quote: Silvestr
              and where should the peasant go? How to change life for the better?

              Read my post above with quote M.E. Saltykov-Shchedrin.

              To study, study and study again, as the great Lenin bequeathed, and the fact that by the end of school most of the students study causes vomiting is not casual ...

              Only when the people have mastered the knowledge available to the elite, the elite will not be able to rule in the old way, will not be able to appoint exorbitantly high salaries for their work.
              1. +11
                12 March 2020 10: 45
                Quote: Boris55
                Study, study and study again...

                and:
                1. leave the country
                2. to work not in a specialty or not to work at all
                3. get a penny?
                Quote: Boris55
                Only when people master the knowledge available to the elite

                the elite successfully compensates for their ignorance with money. Your advice is utopian
                1. +2
                  12 March 2020 10: 53
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  leave the country

                  Those who do not value their homeland will never fall in love with someone else's. I feel sorry for them.

                  Quote: Silvestr
                  the elite successfully compensates for their ignorance with money.

                  She is such an elite - stupid and stupid. She is not able to understand even her own benefit in that robbing a rich people is much more profitable than robbing the poor, but you can buy a diploma for money, you can hire a manager, but if you are stupid, then no one guarantees the prosperity of your kind in your offspring .
                  1. +9
                    12 March 2020 10: 55
                    you contradict yourself!
                    Quote: Boris55
                    ... when the people master knowledge available to the elite ..

                    и
                    Quote: Boris55
                    She is such an elite - stupid and stupid.
                    1. 0
                      12 March 2020 10: 58
                      You talked about the elite that compensates their knowledge with money. I responded accordingly. Initially, it was about the elite that has some management knowledge and it is this knowledge that needs to be mastered.
                      1. +9
                        12 March 2020 11: 38
                        Quote: Boris55
                        the elite with some management knowledge

                        judging by the results of our development, the cook managed better than the KGB officer, albeit with a higher education and even a Ph.D. laughing
                        And according to the laws, such a leader cannot recruit smarter staff than he himself
              2. +9
                12 March 2020 11: 15
                Very naive. Is Volodin an elite? Matvienko is an elite ... And so on. What kind of knowledge can we talk about? For example, I do not see much knowledge from this elite with permission! On the contrary, inertness and archaic due to the roles assigned to them.
                1. -7
                  12 March 2020 11: 37
                  The knowledge of others can be noticed only by him who possesses it.
                  For everyone else, the knowledge of the other causes anger and the reaction "are you the smartest?"
                  This is such a pronounced feature of ours.
                  1. +4
                    12 March 2020 11: 51
                    Knowledge also varies.
                    Knowledge of the elite is actually a craft and not knowledge, partly described by Machiavelli.
                    I am sure that a person who puts the solution of state interests above his own will achieve more than a "knowledgeable" apparatchik working for himself.
        2. +2
          12 March 2020 11: 10
          Quote: Mestny
          And then, no matter how the opposition leader is, it is necessary either corruption, or accounts in foreign banks, or he sat behind the economy in half with murders.

          Yes, yes, but Ivashov personally forged signatures.
          1. -6
            12 March 2020 11: 38
            Well, at least one decent at least. Whatever the past was filthy in the 90s.
            No?
            This is it ...
            1. +1
              12 March 2020 11: 52
              Zhores Alferov!
            2. +7
              12 March 2020 17: 08
              Quote: Mestny
              Well, at least one decent at least

              General Ivashov!
            3. 0
              12 March 2020 19: 00
              Quote: Mestny
              Well, at least one decent at least. Whatever the past was filthy in the 90s.

              But what, Ivashov is not decent, or what? how is he different from Putin’s archivist? Only for the better.
  18. +3
    12 March 2020 11: 11
    To intrigue, to fight against the unwanted, to exert force, to caress their own - the current regime does it expertly. But to think and create a new creative is not. There is nothing good to expect from lawyers; they work with casuistry. Therefore, all of Putin’s plans of a constructive nature fail and fail. The thought of his office is aimed at one thing to give money, and the rest grows itself. Or build infrastructure and then the business will heal, wander through its fun life! And for some reason he does not wander, but decays!
  19. 0
    12 March 2020 12: 01
    Quote: Campanella
    To intrigue, to fight against the unwanted, to exert force, to caress their own - the current regime does it expertly. But to think and create a new creative is not. There is nothing good to expect from lawyers; they work with casuistry. Therefore, all of Putin’s plans of a constructive nature fail and fail. The thought of his office is aimed at one thing to give money, and the rest grows itself. Or build infrastructure and then the business will heal, wander through its fun life! And for some reason he does not wander, but decays!

    The fact is that money should not only be given to business, but not taken from the pockets of the consumer.
  20. 0
    12 March 2020 15: 20
    He shot himself in the leg?

    A few days before the transaction with OPEC was broken, Putin gathered ministers and heads of oil companies to a meeting at Vnukovo-2


    The head of Rosneft lobbied for the refusal to reduce production, people familiar with this issue told the agency. In February 2019, Sechin wrote Putin a letter stating that the deal with OPEC is a strategic threat to Russia and plays into the hands of the United States, wrote Reuters with reference to a copy of the letter to sources in the industry and in the government.


    At the OPEC + ministerial talks in Vienna on March 6, Novak informed his counterpart from Saudi Arabia that Russia would no longer reduce oil production. “The ministers were so shocked that they did not know what to say,” one of the negotiators told the agency. Another informed source told Bloomberg that the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia even wanted to call Putin on March 6th. But a spokesman for the Russian president made it clear that Putin would not intervene.


    “We will regret it today,” said Saudi Energy Minister Abdulaziz bin Salman, leaving the meeting.


    “Collective suicide”: oil prices fell 30% after breaking the deal between Russia and OPEC
    Forbes

    Co-owner of Lukoil billionaire Leonid Fedun estimated Russia's losses from the collapse of the transaction with OPEC at $ 100-150 million per day. He called the decision of Moscow “to put it mildly, irrational”




    For reference: oil production in 2019.
    1. USA - 10.961 million barrels per day
    2. Russia - 10.527 million bps
    3. Saudi Arabia - 10.317 million bps
    The meaning of the OPEC proposal is to reduce production by 1,5 million barrels per day - and for non-peop countries - 0,5 million barrels per day, i.e. Russia would have had from 2% to 3,3% reduction - a reasonable proposal in view of the fact that because of the coronavirus only China began to import 3 million barrels of oil per day less.

    The result of the decision is known, the worst-case scenario was chosen - a drop in oil prices of 30% (by 17-19 dollars per barrel).

    Russia exports daily 5 mn barrels of oil.
    5 000x0000 $ = $ 17 daily losses of the Russian Federation - at today's rate - 85 billion rubles a day ...
    Was it worth it to fill up US shale oil, or was it to shoot yourself in the foot?


    "This is worse than a crime. This is a mistake."
    Antoine Jacques Claude Joseph
    1. +2
      13 March 2020 09: 44
      absolutely right! On March 9, when the oil price collapsed by almost 30 percent, the Kremlin sobered up, but it was too late. Played-played.
  21. +1
    12 March 2020 23: 21
    And this despite the fact that the global economy, for the progress of which the calculation was made in the Russian strategic concept, actually met expectations. It grew, and not only at the expense of China, as well as the countries of Southeast Asia that joined it. India also rushed, followed by Iran, although it was then sharply inhibited due to the disruption of the atomic deal. Even the United States, under Trump, can be said to have rushed.

    I’m wondering why “Alexey Podymov, Anatoly Ivanov, Doctor of Economics, Professor” modestly kept silent that with the growth of the economy, industrial production falls? After such a puncture, it makes no sense to take seriously the further arguments of the authors.
  22. +1
    13 March 2020 00: 46
    And neither the church nor the tavern -
    Nothing is holy!
    No guys it's not like that
    All wrong guys!
  23. -1
    13 March 2020 23: 22
    I believe that Putin needs to impeach, convict and sentenced to capital punishment. At least in the following articles: Treason against the homeland, genocide of the Russian people, creation of a corruption organized crime group, criminal conspiracy led by Medvedev, Siluanov, Nabiulena, Volodin, Sechin and other accomplices. An attempt to usurp power through a constitutional coup. It is also necessary to dissolve the government by convening a popular referendum on confidence in it. To form a new composition of the constitutional court and prosecution bodies by the method of popular expression, which will deal with this trial. Confiscate all property and assets located on the territory of the Russian Federation from relatives of this organized criminal group, in favor of compensation for damage to the budget. Then, it is necessary, through a controlled vote of the regions, to choose a new guarantor of the constitution that has an effective program that includes changing the country's economic course to industrialization, protectionism and moving away from the commodity economy. One of the first key points of the program should be the abolition of the criminal reform of raising the retirement age.
  24. +1
    14 March 2020 10: 02
    Who said that it is Russia that opposes custody? Personally, I am not opposed. Maybe Sechin yes, but not me. Now let's listen to the strategy of 2030, etc. Naya talking room.