"The concept of Putin." Debriefing of conceptual flights of the government

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How many people today will remember how, at the finish of 2008, the Russian government, which Vladimir Putin headed shortly before, spawned something like a program document, designed for many years to come? Unofficially called Strategy 2020, the concept paper was quite officially named the Concept of Long-Term Social and Economic Development.

Promise not to marry


A concept is not a constitution or even a five-year plan. And not the budget that needs to be implemented. The concept can only be implemented, completely or not at all - it is not even able to verify the Accounting Chamber.




The document was developed by the updated composition of the Cabinet of Ministers and was issued as an order under number 1662 of November 17, 2008, signed by the then Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin. The current head of the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation, Alexei Kudrin, at that time the Minister of Finance and Deputy Prime Minister, recently mentioned this document precisely as "Putin's Concept."

Unlike the federal budget, and even more so from documents from party congresses, it doesn’t matter, the Communists, United Russia or the Zhirinovites, the 2020 Concept, strangely enough, turned out to be not so capacious. Just in moderation - 197 typewritten pages with solid spaces between sections, with several attachments and tables. It’s good even without schedules: the general public might not understand this.

The concept, one cannot but admit, was well publicized, especially since the time was not easy, the global financial crisis flared up, and it was necessary to somehow cheer up the interested audience. However, interest in the 2020 Concept has faded quite quickly, and the media activity graph by the number of its references accurately repeats the notorious Gaussian distribution curve. The initial surge quickly gave way to a slide to zero.


And this is understandable, ordinary people have immediate worries - not a dozen years in advance, all the more so since the Concept did not imply any support for the impoverished population in rubles, not like in dollars or euros. The oligarchs were literally at the same time supported by the ruble and dollars, moreover, under a very convincing slogan about the need to save structure-forming enterprises. And no one subsequently invested state funds back from the oligarchs and did not demand.

Especially opposition-minded media people, most of whom today have turned into popular bloggers or leading network channels, then were not slow to sneak, comparing the Concept with the notorious promise of Nikita Khrushchev. Shortly before his retirement, he directly promised the Soviet people that what the people built was communism.


It is now quite difficult, even with documents in hand, to put into the mouth of the first secretary of the CPSU Central Committee the promise of communism either to the next generation of Soviet people, or specifically to 1980. By the way, communism in the separately chosen city of Moscow that year really came - though, only for two Olympic weeks.

In the 2020st century, Concept 6,3, sorry for the reiteration, reasonably ambitious, also promised us a lot. Starting with a real, not a declarative doubling of GDP, which is obtained from a simple conversion of the percent growth of the economy laid down in this document. And it doesn’t matter that today the minimum annual growth rate of XNUMX percent is even beyond the reach of avant-garde China, much less that of developing (still) Russia.

It is important to wave, promise. And after all, something of the promised may even come true. Even if not due to their own efforts and effective management, but due to the fact that others are doing worse. Russia can really break into the top five largest economies in the world, but not because its economy has suddenly become so advanced, but because it turns out to be in the advanced Germany with the economy, everything is “not ah, but completely seam”.

And in general, was it worthwhile, speaking with such a superplan as Concept 2020, to take an example from Khoja Nasreddin? He, as you remember, had no doubt that by the time of fulfilling his promise to the Bukhara emir to teach him how to speak, one of the three would surely die - either he, or donkey, or emir. The concept is a binding document, and too many who still remember it are still alive. And he has the right to ask what it was possible to implement from the Concept and what not.

The document is not secret or unlimited


The authors at the beginning of 2009 got acquainted with the Concept 2020 even too tightly. Our media, print and electronic, which was supervised by the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation, was given the task of presenting the Concept “in the best possible way”, scrupulously outlining the “great goals and objectives” by points. This was done, and with an unbiased analysis, you can get acquainted today on the pages of the journal Financial Control, which has gone into oblivion.

"The concept of Putin." Debriefing of conceptual flights of the government

Already at that stage, many of the provisions of the Concept seemed simply unfeasible, although epithets in the worst case, such as “an overly optimistic forecast or estimate,” went to press. It is characteristic that the most doubts were caused by those points and sections in which people were discussed, about the social sphere.

Now we can state that it was precisely in this part that the Concept, alas, could not be implemented even at a modest 30-40 percent. However, we will still dwell on the social program from the Concept in the following sections of our analysis, which we admit is very, very superficial.

Starting the analysis of the epic document of twelve years ago on points, we have no right not to make an amendment for a number of objective circumstances. They themselves could create such conditions under which the full implementation of the Concept 2020 would be simply impossible. We will not list them all, we only note the crises and sanctions, the growing terrorist threat, the numerous and protracted exacerbations at the borders of Russia, the unprecedented migration and environmental difficulties.

Nevertheless, we acknowledge that several cabinet ministers that have exercised executive power in the country since the adoption of the Concept have done quite a lot of what was necessary to bring Concept 2020 to life. Of course, they did not do everything possible, but still ... Then there will be a lot of quotes, may the most impatient readers forgive us for them.

Our response to global challenges


The authors, or, if you want, the developers of the Concept 2020, started according to the Russian tradition - for health, noting the positive trends in the economy, finance and social sphere. We admit that the authors are right at that moment, that is, "in recent years, Russia has restored the status of a powerful economic power."

But at the same time, they, perhaps unintentionally, but most likely, deliberately forgot that all this was based on anti-crisis cleaning in the economy and mutual settlements, which were carried out after the 1998 default by Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov and his deputy Yuri Maslyukov.


Heroes of anti-default: Prime Minister Primakov and his deputy Maslyukov

The successful oil situation of those years, which were not just called “fat zero” by the people, was not marked at all. Honestly, it was impossible for the authors to forget that all the finances and foreign trade turnover, including currency control, for a long time, until 2002, were driven by the unsinkable head of the Central Bank Viktor Gerashchenko.


Victor Gerashchenko was always with Evgeni Primakov

By the way, it is this fact that seems to have prompted those who made the annexes to the Concept to make truly enviable forecasts for oil prices in the initial conditions. So, in 2020, as well as in the four previous ones, according to the concept, they were supposed to be no less than 108 dollars per barrel. We will not spread here that, in fact, oil quotes were selected to this mark more than once, but what is now worth keeping them at least in the region of $ 50!

But even this is not so important, how important it would be to understand why, then, for many years, completely different basic oil tariffs were laid down in the country's budget? Between $ 40 and $ 60 for the same barrel. Today, because of the coronavirus, prices for black gold have fallen precisely to such levels, and as a result of this, gas prices have fallen, but after defeating the epidemic they will certainly rise again and grow strongly.

Are we going to continue to stubbornly lay straws, forming our dimensionless oil and gas stash? But she, our nest egg, through investments in dollar and Euro instruments and directly in foreign currency, by three quarters actually goes to support Russia's geopolitical and economic rivals.


In Russia, they look at the main challenges of the XNUMXst century in a slightly different way.

At the same time, one cannot but give credit to the authors; they were able to foresee the main trends and challenges of world development. Another question is how Russia answered them, and how it was necessary to answer them. And yet we read in the Concept 2020:

The first challenge is increasing global competition ...
The second challenge is the expected new wave of technological change ...
The third challenge is the increasing role of human capital as the main factor in economic development ...
The fourth challenge is the exhaustion of the potential of the export-raw model of economic development. ”

How successfully Russia has managed to answer these challenges can be judged by its current situation. Most likely, it can be recognized that it’s somewhere around 50 to 50, and although the prospect of breaking into the top five countries with the most powerful economies is impressive, it’s generally neither cold nor hot for ordinary people.

Moreover, for most of the points that, as early as 2008, the developers of the Concept reasonably considered negative, it is impossible to note any special shifts in the direction of positive. So, even then

“... new internal growth restrictions have been identified, due to insufficient development of the transport and energy infrastructure and a shortage of qualified engineering and working personnel.”

The Concept recognized that this "could lead to a sharp slowdown in economic growth."

Rereading the Concept, with considerable regret we are convinced that the problems that it actually aimed to solve remain unresolved:

- a high level of social inequality and regional differentiation;
- high risks of doing business in Russia, including due to the presence of corruption, excessive administrative barriers, insufficient protection of property rights, lack of transparency in the land relations system, and low corporate culture;
- poor development of forms of self-organization and self-regulation of business and society, a low level of trust in combination with a low level of effectiveness of public administration;
- low level of competition in a number of markets, which does not create incentives for enterprises to increase labor productivity;
- insufficient level of development of the national innovation system, coordination of education, science and business.


To be continued ...
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  1. +12
    5 March 2020 06: 07
    Interesting, interesting .... It’s good that they reminded me, otherwise it began to be forgotten ...
    1. +3
      5 March 2020 06: 46
      What's interestnig? Wiki
      The concept was to be used as a guide in the production of documents, plans and performance indicators of executive authorities. Strategy 2020 provided for legislative powers for their implementation. Due to the lack of specific steps and bills for the implementation of Strategy 2020, as well as the financial and economic crisis of 2008, as of 2019, the program remains unrealized.

      Strategy 2020 was developed by more than 1000 experts led by State University - Higher School of Economics and the Russian Academy of National Economy and Public Administration.
      Where HSE is, there is pruritus. Heroes "for all good, against all bad" in the following directions:
      At the HSE and RANEPA sites, 21 expert groups were created under the leadership of rectors Yaroslav Kuzminov and Vladimir Mau. Key areas of work on Strategy 2020 are visible from the list of groups created for its discussion and writing:

      Group 1. A new model of economic growth. Ensuring macroeconomic and social stability (Vladimir Mau, Evgeny Yasin)
      Group 2. Budget and monetary policy, macroeconomic parameters of the development of the Russian economy (Sergey Sinelnikov-Murylev, Evsey Gurvich)
      Group 3. Reform of the pension system (Tatyana Maleva, Ksenia Yudaeva)
      Group 4. Strengthening market institutions. Ensuring stability of ownership conditions and development of competition, stimulating small business (Andrey Yakovlev)
      Group 5. Transition from stimulating innovations to growth based on them (Leonid Gokhberg)
      Group 6. Tax policy (Sergey Drobyshevsky, Alexander Galushka)
      Group 7. Labor market, vocational education, migration policy (Yaroslav Kuzminov, Vladimir Gimpelson, Mikhail Denisenko, Tatyana Chetvernina)
      Group 8. New School (Isak Frumin, Anatoly Kasprzhak)
      Group 9. Reducing inequality and overcoming poverty (Vladimir Nazarov, Polina Kozyreva)
      Group 10. Development of the financial and banking sector (German Gref, Oleg Vyugin)
      Group 11. Health and human environment (Leo Jacobson, Sergey Shishkin)
      Group 12. Real federalism, local self-government, inter-budgetary policy (Irina Starodubrovskaya, Vyacheslav Glazychev)
      Group 13. Improving the efficiency of public investment and public procurement, creating a federal contract system (Alexander Shamrin, Ilya Sokolov)
      Group 14. Optimization of the state’s presence: reduction of regulatory functions, ensuring transparency and feedback with citizens and business (Andrey Klimenko, Alexander Auzan)
      Group 15. Management of state property and privatization (Yuri Simachev, Alexander Radygin)
      Group 16. Development of public institutions (Elena Topoleva, Mikhail Fedotov)
      Group 17. Reform of the public sector in the economy (Boris Rudnik, Tatyana Klyachko)
      Group 18. Reform of natural monopolies (Yuri Sahakyan, Yuri Udaltsov)
      Group 19. Overcoming territorial and information disunity: development of the transport system, communications and information (Mikhail Blinkin, Olga Dergunova)
      Group 20. Russia's international position: economic benchmarks (Pavel Kadochnikov, Alexander Dynkin)
      Group 21. Development of economic and social integration in the post-Soviet space (Tatyana Valovaya, Andrey Spartak)
      1. +17
        5 March 2020 09: 23
        intentionally forgotthat all this was based on anti-crisis restoring order in the economy and mutual settlements, which was carried out after the 1998 default by Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov and his deputy Yuri Maslyukov

        It was the Primakov government that pulled the country out of default. Primakov in his book wrote that he crossed the road for many then, and what pressure he felt on the oligarchs, and how they demanded that the drunk replace Primakov.

        Here drunk and replaced the "hated" Primakov with a comfortable Putin (Stepashin was a passing figure), to the delight of the oligarchs. And there, and gold-oil rain fell as if from a cornucopia. True, from that abundance the people got quite a bit! Nevertheless, Putin acquired the glory of "kneeling man".

        How many today will remember

        That's the calculation! Many have already forgotten that all economic reforms (2003-2008, 2012-2020) were a failure. The interim results of the current National Projects are also disappointing. So that Vladimir Vladimirovich does not make one result - an increase in prices, impoverishment of the people and an increase of billions of dollars in profits among friends of the oligarchs.
        1. +9
          5 March 2020 13: 32
          Here is the drunk and replaced the "hated" Primakov with a convenient Putin


          I remember from that time - 7-month wage arrears were paid for a month. The pay was paid once a week ... Before that, "money in Moscow, came, did not reach, etc." Then the presidential elections in 2000, some kind of dirt on TV. And Primakov withdrew his candidacy. And the authority among the people at that time was enormous. But Putin was put on "promotion" just 9 months before ... Victory reports from Chechnya, Zhirinovsky to pull off votes from the eternally second sic ... And it's in the bag.
          So at least it looked from my bump.
          1. +10
            5 March 2020 14: 56
            Quote: dauria
            Then the presidential election of 2000, some dirt on the telly. And Primakov withdrew. And the authority among the people at that time was tremendous.

            All thanks to the efforts of the priceless Vladimir Vladimirovich. And then there were still dirty stories: Nikita Belykh withdrew his candidacy in exchange for the governorship in the Kirov region, Rogozin was not allowed on a far-fetched pretext, and the hitherto unknown Grudinin suddenly turned out to be "an oligarch and the main thief in the country" thanks to the rabid propaganda of the pro-government media.

            But, very soon there will be no need to fight with presidential candidates after everyone is fooled with amendments to the Constitution. On a new throne (and in a new position), the term of office will not be limited.
    2. +3
      5 March 2020 07: 58
      Uncle Lee (Vladimir): ... It’s good that they reminded me, otherwise it began to be forgotten ...

      Cases of bygone days - the legends of antiquity deep (s)
      1. -12
        5 March 2020 15: 33
        Even Alexander the Great himself skillfully ruled his strategy when new circumstances appeared. This is not only normal, but also necessary. No need to breed dogma.
        1. +9
          5 March 2020 16: 49
          Yes, it can and rules, but unlike .. to achieve goals, success, and not to forget and not fulfill
    3. -7
      5 March 2020 08: 15
      What a mess: KONY PEOPLE
      1. +14
        5 March 2020 08: 42
        Quote: Slavutich
        What a mess: KONY PEOPLE

        Exactly and always will be. For the US cadres are sitting in the government. e.g. Ksenia Yudaeva
        In 1998, she received a Ph.D. in economics from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, USA.
        In 1998-1999 taught at the Stockholm Institute for Transition Economics (Stockholm School of Economics)
        In 1999–2000, he was a leading economist at the Russian-European Center for Economic Policy (RECEP).
        In 2000-2006, she served as director of application programs at the Center for Economic and Financial Development (CEFIR).
        In 2006 - Scientific Director of the Center for Strategic Research, member of the Scientific Council of the Carnegie Moscow Center.
        Since March 2008 - Senior Advisor to the President, Chief Economist, Head of the Center for Macroeconomic Research of Sberbank of Russia, established in 2008.

        I propose specifically: a ban on the work in the government of all who studied "with them", as well as those who had contacts with the institutions of Soros or Carnegie. angry
        1. +3
          5 March 2020 09: 35
          It is strong!
        2. kig
          -14
          5 March 2020 09: 43
          it’s better not to let very literate people go there.
          1. +7
            5 March 2020 15: 22
            Quote: kig
            it’s better not to let very literate people go there.

            They are not literate, but bought, even if not all, it is better not to risk it. The risk of losing the country is great, and there will always be a replacement, albeit without an Oxford master's degree.
        3. -13
          5 March 2020 16: 23
          Recall how Tsar Peter sent for the cordon to study, although there were not enough funds for urgent matters? The lady has a decent education and work experience. And to drive only for a foreign diploma and employment records - this is difficult to call .... But they certainly do not recognize a smart one.
          1. +2
            5 March 2020 20: 19
            But then only Peter then asked responsibly for the affairs of such a student, could he even demolish his head.
            And if you have studied abroad, but there is no responsibility, then you don’t need to poke Peter’s example, he’s out of place here. There is no responsibility as under Peter. Absolutely not
        4. +7
          5 March 2020 16: 51
          This is our argument and the type of black mark in relation to the bulk, but for whom it is necessary it is not a minus for some reason
      2. +8
        5 March 2020 09: 33
        P. 10. Development of the financial and banking sector (Gref, Vyugin).

        The reason for many of our economic failures was the behavior of the Central Bank. But in Putin’s speech of January 15, the Central Bank was never mentioned - never! In 2013, contrary to the Constitution, the Central Bank received the status of a mega-regulator, that is, it separated from the state, since then it has been directly subordinate to the IMF and the US Federal Reserve. The central bank has become the fourth branch of government, independent of the other three.
        How could they allow this? Could and allowed. Consciously. This stretches back to the 80s of the last century. Crush everything that moves in the economy so that competitors do not grow up to oligarchs.
        And this, in fact, illegal power, the fourth in a row, began to rule our country.
        It is the Central Bank of any country, regulating the key rate, as well as the activities of other credit institutions, that encourages this, or stifles economic development. Since 2013, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation with absolute impunity destroyed millions of jobs, successfully suppressed the possibility of developing its own industry in the country. It turns out that the president wants, but Nabiullina can. This is not Putin, not Medvedev, and now it’s not Mishustin who rules Russia - this is the head of the Central Bank that rules it. So, the president can build any beautiful plans and publish them in magazines. And Nabiullina will really manage the economy in favor of the oligarchs, that is, to strangle the country.
        1. -6
          5 March 2020 16: 30
          Where have you learned how to understand finances? Do you have a specialized diploma? This is a complex field. Your conclusions must be confirmed by analysis, very thorough. And without this it looks like a slander, excuse me.
          1. +4
            5 March 2020 18: 19
            And you, colleague Victor N., rummage around on the Internet. There people come out with an analysis, who, being recognized authorities in this matter, just have all the diplomas you require, as well as academic titles and printed works. So they say this. There are no other opinions. I’ve been rummaging around for several days now and I can’t find the answer to the question: how did it happen that the regulator represented by the Bank of Russia turned out to be the owner of a stake in Sberbank and started playing on its side, destroying smaller banks and thereby increasing the competitiveness of this particular financial institution. Hence the myth - Gref is an outstanding banker. And it seems that Sberbank has been preparing for sale to investors, most likely foreign, for all these years. Moreover, foreigners are already owners of a significant share of the package, namely: the British and Americans. And the fact that the Central Bank all these years played on the side not only of Sberbank, but also of other large banks of Russia, of which there are few, and also lobbied for the interests of the mining oligarchy, suppressing small and medium-sized businesses at an exorbitant interest rate, is already a commonplace, but, apparently a secret for you. Hence the inhibition of the country's economic development. For money, I'm sorry for the banality - the blood of the economy. Ours is bloodless. With the full connivance of political power. So I think: what is the interest of the authorities? Why did she allow this state of affairs?
            1. 0
              6 March 2020 09: 14
              There are a lot of things on the Internet, but in science, links to the Internet are forbidden precisely for this reason. Even in graduation projects. The analysis is based on statistics, but it is not comprehensive. Talking about the lack of money in the economy is old, constantly crying about insufficient and expensive lending to the real sector. But bankers complain that there is no one to give loans, there are no reasonable requests, not to mention effective projects. I myself analyzed thousands of investment projects and investment proposals and was struck by the scale of stupidity, ignorance of the elementary economy, and the irresponsibility of large leaders. Mat I do not practice, but .... Conclusion: in the country there is a shortage of normal entrepreneurs, acute. Why? - public opinion demonizes them. What to do, huh? Hopelessness, however ....
              The central bank regulates the amount of money in the economy, this is its main function. And it can do this, while it remains independent of politicians, the bureaucracy, since those who wish to speculate on the sea. And not only professional speculators: with increasing incomes, the population does not go to buy domestic goods. They complain about the quality of their goods, although they themselves produce them, not Putin ...
              I have absolutely no reverence for Internet experts. since I myself have diplomas, titles, and works.
      3. -6
        5 March 2020 18: 05
        I read all the comments at the moment. The article is used as an occasion to scold the authorities. What should be done when implementing the strategy - nothing, until complete removal. Something is happening in the country, but we are not at all involved in this. Or maybe insignificant?
        Amendments to the Constitution were proposed for discussion - so you can discuss it not in the kitchen (in the HE), but send your proposals, contact the deputies - please. How else? Do you not seriously think that they will come to you, write down all your wishes and will certainly fulfill them? After all, not small children .... Although some complain about the nervous system - maybe this is a virtual infection? Funny and sorry ....
        1. +2
          6 March 2020 13: 03
          Wktor, regarding your previous post.
          I read it and laughed: "Aaaa, so that's who strangles our small and medium-sized business and does not give it a way! So it was you who showed up!" In fact, everything is much more serious and, of course, it is not you who strangle him, but as for you, then in many respects you are right. Not so long ago in one of the articles I came across an interesting fact. It turns out that in the United States, where capitalism is already 300 years old, business is taught in special colleges. Naturally, I went to the Internet and found that we also have business colleges. The first release took place only in 2017. I began to read. They don't teach business there! They teach professions there. Cooks, hairdressers, hotels, etc. And graduates will be hired by people who, for the most part, do not know how to properly organize a business, how to run it - the same mediocre, but impudent and arrogant people you are talking about. This is a rare case when a person who is not familiar with the rules of doing business, with the laws limiting it, having started from scratch, suddenly becomes a successful businessman. And the people, by the way, are beginning to suspect the corruption component not without reason. Hence - his attitude to business.
          Not because we do not have small and medium-sized businesses because the people despise businessmen, but because such is the attitude of the authorities towards this type of activity. And it comes in the wake of the oligarchs, who are afraid of competitors growing up from small and medium-sized businesses and are doing everything to prevent those competitors. For this, atrocious laws are being issued that no one is going to repeal for many years, deputies of all levels, the police, tax, courts and prosecutors are corrupt, others and even brother and raiders are connected. How many enterprises are gaining strength, both in rural areas and in cities, and how many businesses have been taken away.
          As for running a business, all sorts of business gurus have divorced, who immeasurably take for a course of lectures, the exhaust from which consists only in the short phrase "Believe in yourself!"
          If the government was really interested in raising the non-oil sector of the economy, the country would be covered by a network of business schools that would provide real knowledge and practical skills in this matter, as well as companies that would help graduates to organize their own business and establish relations with banks , and not with corrupt officials who definitely need to unfasten their share.
          But there is no interest. Hence the flooding of our store shelves with goods from China - those that can easily be made with us.
          Therefore, our oligarchic capitalism is stuck and stagnating, and arrogant and stupid people come to you. Or naive.
          1. 0
            6 March 2020 17: 08
            More than 95% of small business is trade and services. The production of something is very rare. Because it is expensive and difficult, there are huge risks. I completely agree with you - the rules of doing business must be taught. Including examples of successful entrepreneurial projects. Do not disdain the experience of "oligarchic capitalists". Society is losing a lot by cultivating aversion to successful businessmen from whom much can be learned. In Russian literature of the late 19th century, there was a lot of attention to this, such personalities are described! With merits and demerits, tragic metamorphoses ... But also with admiration for achievements! Only a person of incredible courage can risk building a bridge in a swamp or a super-factory in the Far North. Exactly such feats were in Soviet times, but the money was state. And now they are risking their own, but those received in debt ... Of course, I am not in the modern trend, especially in VO. But there are no stereotyped solutions to complex problems.
            I congratulate you on the upcoming holiday, I wish you health, prosperity, insights and discoveries (just for yourself, the world is so entertaining)!
    4. +8
      5 March 2020 08: 44
      Especially pension reform.
      1. +11
        5 March 2020 13: 11
        If we count all the money stolen in a barbaric way, then it would be possible to rebuild the country twice from them.
        1. -11
          5 March 2020 16: 32
          Have you tried to count? Or just guesses?
          1. +3
            5 March 2020 23: 28
            Quote: Victor N
            Have you tried to count? Or just guesses?

            January 14, 2020: the Accounts Chamber estimated the extent of theft from the budget in 2019. The total amount in criminal cases amounted to 2-3 billion rubles.
            Financial irregularities in 2019 amounted to 804 billion rubles.
  2. +21
    5 March 2020 06: 07
    And where is she now this concept of 2020 ...
    The fourth challenge is the exhaustion of the potential of the export-raw model of economic development. ”

    Not noticeable is the exhaustion of this potential. Rather, on the contrary, the potential of the export-raw material model is gaining momentum and reaches its maximum speed.
    You can solve those problems indicated in the concept, you need to stop thinking about yourself and your pocket, and start thinking about the country and people. It is necessary to completely change the constitution of the country, and not to make separate amendments to it. It is necessary to abandon wild capitalism. With the existing approach, we will not move anywhere.
    1. +14
      5 March 2020 06: 33
      I agree with the comment. But I want to add. To implement the declared declarations needed a plan. This is where, from who and how much it finances. Who leads and is responsible for this. What is the reward for fulfilling the plan and what is the punishment if this plan fails. if all this was not spelled out, then all this was originally profanity.
      1. +12
        5 March 2020 09: 51
        Colleague Soviet Union 2, I repeat: we are under the direct control of the IMF, therefore, the US Federal Reserve - thanks to the mega-regulator, whose name is the Central Bank. We are a colony of America. Do you think the States are interested in growing a competitor in the person of Russia? No and no again! Therefore, the Central Bank encourages the activities of the raw materials industry of the Russian Federation and suffocates any other. Moreover, the Central Bank brought the country's population into credit slavery. Whatever your plans for your own production, albeit small, but without credit, you will not succeed. But try to take it! They will give you a consumer, but no production! Even for the construction of roads, the government had to ask the Central Bank for permission to take something from the National Welfare Fund, which seems to be ours, but in fact it didn’t. Only in retirement and subsidies to the poor. And it's all. There are preparing some amendments to the Central Bank - is covered in darkness. The question of the nationalization of the Central Bank is not even raised.
        1. +5
          5 March 2020 12: 08
          Quote: depressant
          we are under the direct control of the IMF

          How convenient. Again, our government rowers have nothing to do with it. "The king is good, the Central Bank is bad."

          Quote: depressant
          Therefore, the Central Bank encourages the activities of the raw materials industry of the Russian Federation and suffocates any other. Moreover, the Central Bank brought the country's population into credit slavery.

          The answer is simple: it is very beneficial for domestic oligarchs to trade in raw materials. Large industrial projects pay off over the years, and the pipe gives superprofits now. And credit slavery is a normal situation for a capitalist economy.

          Quote: depressant
          The question of the nationalization of the Central Bank is not even raised.

          Why nationalize federal property?
          1. +3
            5 March 2020 14: 31
            My colleague, I generally have a suspicion that the Central Bank was awarded the status of a mega-regulator, so that there was someone to push my idleness into. In general, it’s worth a close look: who and why, for what purpose. Who are these state criminals. Name by name.
      2. -9
        5 March 2020 16: 37
        No one noticed that someone brazenly called himself a SOVIET UNION? It would be necessary to call a doctor ....
        1. 0
          6 March 2020 09: 17
          VO seems to be a massive disease.
      3. -1
        5 March 2020 23: 11
        The plan was, but different. And it is executed.))
    2. +24
      5 March 2020 07: 41
      Quote: Red
      And where is she now this concept 2020.

      All these concepts are dust ... in the eyes of citizens .. Look at how billionaires multiply and how poor the population is ... this is the only concept of today's leaders ..
      1. +12
        5 March 2020 08: 18
        this is the only concept of today's leaders ..

        Not the only one. There is also a search for foreign agents who criticize the authorities.
        1. +13
          5 March 2020 08: 19
          Quote: Honest Citizen
          this is the only concept of today's leaders ..

          Not the only one. There is also a search for foreign agents who criticize the authorities.

          And that would not interfere with stealing .. otherwise they feel discomfort from criticism ...
          1. +6
            5 March 2020 11: 45
            Colleagues, who is talking about what, I’m talking about mine. I try to hit the root of our problems, that is, the Central Bank.
            Of particular concern is the intention of the working group on amendments to expand the functions of the Central Bank, endowing legislative functions with an alien structure for us. Namely: the Central Bank should provide conditions for economic growth, be responsible for price stability and moderate long-term interest on loans (Hartung, Tarakanov). The proposal is considered by the State Duma Committee on State Building and Legislation.
            Deputies! What do you intend to see in this offer? The fact that the mega-regulator, which is the Central Bank, is not at all obliged to follow these proposals? And so let me know? Or will you accept the proposed amendments?
            The only worthy decision that you can make will be the proposal to withdraw the Central Bank from submission to the IMF, followed by submission to the government of the Russian Federation. And if it is adopted, then the Central Bank automatically, as befits the Central Bank, which is the property of the country, will simply be obliged to provide the above nishtyaki. And if you accept the proposed amendments without reassigning the Central Bank to the government of the Russian Federation, then an even steeper colonial stranglehold will be thrown over our country. A foreign Central Bank, under the dictation of the IMF, without a rudder and sails, without a twinge of conscience, will legally issue such circulars that will finally destroy not only our life, but also the country.
      2. +13
        5 March 2020 13: 16
        Quote: Svarog
        All these concepts are dust.

        If there was a state plan, then it would be possible to talk about at least a 5-year planning horizon in all sectors: we will build so many factories, schools, hospitals, housing, we will lay so many kilometers of roads, so much steel, so many we produce planes, ships, cars, tractors, combines. But there is none of this. There are only unjustified promises, a talking room and embezzlement. The only thing we are ahead of the rest in is the release of new dollar billionaires.
  3. +32
    5 March 2020 06: 12
    The fourth challenge is the exhaustion of the potential of the export-raw model of economic development. ”
    Well what are you authors like small children: first you swear with obscenities, then you will eat bread with these hands criticize something that cannot be criticized, because see point 1? As recently as a few days ago, Putin clearly said that Russia was moving away from oil and gas dependence, it was simply not done at the snap of his fingers (see the TASS epic "20 Questions to Vladimir Putin"). It takes a few clicks. Many, many clicks. He has been clicking for 12 years - he cannot click in any way. If we vote in April for amendments to the constitution, he will click for another 12 years. Perhaps, what it will click. Or maybe not. We will see in 12 years. Those who will live. Amen.
    1. +26
      5 March 2020 06: 33
      Quote: Dalny V
      Perhaps, and clicks.

      so was born a new meme the Nutcracker laughing
      1. +12
        5 March 2020 07: 41
        Quote: polar fox
        Quote: Dalny V
        Perhaps, and clicks.

        so was born a new meme the Nutcracker laughing

        Fairytale ..
    2. +23
      5 March 2020 06: 35
      Do you snap your fingers? I’m dispersing crocodiles! So they are not there! Because no, I snap my fingers! laughing
    3. -27
      5 March 2020 06: 57
      Quote: Dalny V
      It takes a few clicks. Many, many clicks. He has been clicking for 12 years now - he can’t click at all.

      Can you name at least one country that has natural resources at its disposal and does not sell them on foreign markets? The United States reproached us for the same for a long time, and as soon as they got an excess of oil and gas on shale, they immediately rushed to the market. "He's been clicking for 12 years now," so what? Gazprom had signed contracts up to the 30s. Where are you going to get them? You still have to do it. Although we need to develop our own chemistry, or maybe offer the same Germans to build their processing plants here and supply them with raw materials without crossing the border.
      1. +15
        5 March 2020 07: 41
        Although the same chemistry needs to be developed, it may be suggested that the same Germans build their processing plants with us and supply them with raw materials without crossing the border.

        No one will ever sell technological enterprises, processing technologies in Russia. Maximum - assembly production. I look, history has not taught you anything.
        History never gives homework, but strictly asks for their ignorance (c) Somehow.
        1. -18
          5 March 2020 08: 50
          Quote: Honest Citizen
          No one will ever sell technological enterprises, processing technologies in Russia.

          Do not dispose of other people's assets. Britons are our enemies all our lives, and the engines are sold. And then, technology is not bricks. Promising ones will not sell, but they may well, and in fact they put behind the hill what works today. We ourselves will comprehend the technology, and investments are needed simply for modern production. And maybe history does not teach me, but, as you can see, it taught you so much that you are afraid to go out of the doorway. Do not bother with obvious bearded quotes. Swam ...
          1. +11
            5 March 2020 08: 53
            Promising ones will not sell, but they may well, and in fact they put behind the hill what works today.

            Well, yes, yes, yes ... Oppel has already been sold to us.
            Oil refining too.
            Microelectronics.
            Pharmacology.
            Continue the list yourself? Or help?
            1. -19
              5 March 2020 08: 58
              Quote: Honest Citizen
              Well, yes, yes, yes ... Oppel has already been sold to us.

              In fact, we buy a lot of things, and then "finalize with a file." The whole world is going roughly the same way. What is there to be surprised at?
              1. +11
                5 March 2020 09: 22
                Do you want to say that the whole world follows our path? Eco enough? Japan, Germany, the United States and the like suddenly went our way? And what kind of a path is this if countries with advanced technologies don’t sell these technologies to us, but they sell to each other.
                Dear, do not let the fog over here.
                1. -13
                  5 March 2020 09: 32
                  Quote: Fan-Fan
                  Do you want to say that the whole world follows our path?

                  This is what you think "our". The West gained technological leadership thanks to the merciless exploitation of the conquered colonies. We did not have such a bonus, so we are somewhat lagging behind in a number of areas, and in the near future we will not be an absolute leader for a number of objective reasons. Therefore, quite often we resorted to buying, "borrowing" other people's ideas, diligently developing them with our mind. The West also does not shun either shopping or elementary theft. In this we all go not in other people's / our own ways, but simply in one direction. And among themselves they have no idyll, but there is a mutually beneficial exchange with elements of tough pressure. But we are / they are outright enemies to us, and therefore the relationship is somewhat more tense. No fog. The outlook is as clear as daylight.
                  1. +9
                    5 March 2020 09: 38
                    Well, what is our perspective?
                    1. -9
                      5 March 2020 09: 45
                      Quote: Fan-Fan
                      Well, what is our perspective?

                      Yes, nothing different from this day. Technological lag in the industries where it is present will continue. Our own development will not give us the opportunity to get ahead of the western level, at least in the next 20-30 years. But we will carefully breathe them in the back of the head.
                      1. +8
                        5 March 2020 09: 52
                        And it seems to me that we are moving away from their nape. And your forecast is very optimistic that we will get ahead of them in 20-30 years. Somewhere on the Internet I found evidence that the average standard of living of a European is 4 times higher than the standard of living of an average Russian.
                      2. -7
                        5 March 2020 10: 43
                        Quote: Fan-Fan
                        And your forecast is very optimistic that we will get ahead of them in 20-30 years.

                        Maybe you have a second Russian language, but I explain on the fingers: if it is said that the gap will continue in the next 20-30 years, it does not meanthat after this period the situation will definitely change dramatically. The lag can be reduced, it can grow, a war can happen and we will all be on the same level under a layer of ash. I simply indicate by this term the horizon of reflection, for it is close to the horizon of my life in general. Did I understand clearly?
                2. +8
                  5 March 2020 11: 12
                  Fan-Fan Today, 09:22 AM NEW
                  +3
                  Do you mean to say that the whole world is going our way? Eco had enough? Japan, Germany, USA .. ""
                  Maybe we go their way. Lord laughing ??
                  "In the Penza region, at the cadet school in the village of Michurinsky, new rules have been introduced - to address teachers not by their first name and patronymic, but" mistress "and" master. " .. There really is such a rule in the "Regulations on Cossack Cadet Classes of the MOBU MOSH p. Michurinsky." Eadaily portal. ""
                  https://vpk.name/news/381395_tovarishi_konchilis_snova_prishli_gospoda.html
                  "Capitalism. My friend"
                  They returned us to capitalism - to the past - without asking the consent of the peoples of the country ..
                  1. +7
                    5 March 2020 17: 01
                    This is the very desired feudalism, a more convenient form for government, since it allows the ruling less to negotiate, and more to indicate without reciprocal handouts, so to speak, according to the "natural" right to "force" coercion
      2. +9
        5 March 2020 12: 18
        Quote: Den717
        Can you name at least one country that has at its disposal reserves of natural resources and does not sell them on foreign markets?

        Who is opposed to the sale of natural resources abroad? None. It’s just that land, mineral resources, forests, natural resources should belong to the people, and not to one and a half dozen ghouls who captured them and do not want to pay normal taxes. Revenues from the sale of natural resources go into the pockets of the oligarchs, and the people are shish. We do not have a digital industry. Example, I have: a smartphone made in China; Samsung TV made in China; Asus laptop made in China; An electric kettle made in China ... And where is our production? Where are our manufactured household goods?
    4. +14
      5 March 2020 07: 39
      Here we will vote in April for amendments to the constitution - and he will click for another 12 years.

      There is no time to swing laughing
      1. +4
        5 March 2020 11: 32
        [quote = Honest Citizen] There is no time for buildup [/ Quote]
        A man runs into the bar. The bartender asks:
        - Do you need beer or vodka?
        - Wow! I don’t have time for buildup.
    5. -13
      5 March 2020 07: 49
      Quote: Dalny V
      (see the TASS epic "20 Questions to Vladimir Putin")

      Have you definitely watched it yourself (2:08)? laughing



      I draw your attention to the words from 1:50 to 2:00 a minute.
      1. +15
        5 March 2020 08: 00
        Have you watched the interview I mentioned? Personally, I read the report, which clearly says, and I quote: "The share of so-called non-oil and gas revenues is increasing, Putin added, but you cannot get away from oil" with a snap of your fingers. "
        The nervous system does not allow me to watch such videos. Text reports - they are faster and better for assimilation.
        1. -18
          5 March 2020 08: 04
          Quote: Dalny V
          however, you can’t get away from oil

          Why leave her? The USA won chasing her around the world with axes, and with us she rolls around under her feet. Another thing is that it should not be the main source of income in the budget.

          Quote: Dalny V
          The nervous system does not allow me to watch such videos.

          Is it permissible to judge what they have not seen? laughing
          1. +11
            5 March 2020 08: 12
            Why leave her?
            And where do I urge her to leave?
            1. -17
              5 March 2020 08: 15
              Quote: Dalny V
              And where do I urge her to leave?

              Then what did you mean by saying this:
              "Personally, I read the report, which clearly says, I quote:" ... The share of so-called non-oil and gas revenues is increasing .... "
              1. +12
                5 March 2020 08: 22
                Then what did you mean when you said this: “Personally, I read the report ...
                sad Well, I meant that I personally read the report. As it were, it’s written quite clearly.
                1. -15
                  5 March 2020 08: 35
                  Quote: Dalny V
                  I meant that I personally read the report

                  Got it.
                  Nevertheless, it’s better to see Putin, especially since the video provides related information in the form of numbers and graphs.
                  1. +11
                    5 March 2020 08: 41
                    Putin is better to see
                    Controversial statement. If Putin is practically a religion for you, this does not mean that everyone should share your fanaticism.
                    PySy. By the way, "seeing" is not always better. The risk of falling under the charisma, the personal charm of the interviewee, is too great. In this sense, dry letters printed in Russian on white are perceived much more objectively.
                    1. +11
                      5 March 2020 09: 25
                      Beloved woman, but just a beautiful woman is nice to see, but Putin?
        2. +14
          5 March 2020 08: 53
          You correctly noticed about the nervous system. He already does not get out of the TV. There is no time to work, everything talks about the successes that will be.
      2. +12
        5 March 2020 08: 20
        Boris, you see what's the matter. If you talk to video bloggers, you will hear from them an interesting point of view. It consists in the following: if comments are disabled under the video, this is called "zashkvar" in their slang.
        What do we have with the comments under this video? :) laughing
        1. +2
          5 March 2020 10: 22
          Dear Colleagues! Don't limit the discussion to nagging each other. We are all interested in the development of our country. There is oil, gas - good. But it is even better to trade processed products with foreigners. Even under Nicholas II, it was forbidden to sell oil abroad - only gasoline. Only a tiny percent of crude oil was allowed for sale. And where, in sufficient quantities, are our factories processing oil not necessarily into gasoline, but into other useful substances? Where are they? Ask Nabiullina. She is real power. Even the State Duma deputies have begun to understand this. When discussing the amendments to the Constitution, one of the faction leaders said the following: "We believe that the task of the Central Bank should be not only macroeconomic indicators, but also the improvement of our economy and employment, and the Central Bank cannot be independent from the authorities of the Russian Federation."
          It came at last. The fact that other countries have long been clear. Even the Turks drove their head of the Central Bank and subordinated the Central Bank to the government. So, the Central Bank will be ours, there will be Putin’s implementation of plans, there will be development. It will not be - we put an end to development.
          1. +8
            5 March 2020 10: 27
            Dear Colleagues! Do not reduce discussion to nitpicking to each other.

            Yes, there are no nit-picking. Just trying to make people think with their heads. And do not stupidly follow the leader.
            If it doesn’t reach people that the government should report, and not throw empty promises, which are then silently, in a rag, are silent, then its apologists here, in VO, you just need to put on public display, as in the Kunstkamera.
            And until it reaches everyone.
      3. +15
        5 March 2020 09: 06
        Especially interesting beginning ... Presenter: "Topics that directly concern each of us. Real incomes, wages, poverty level and people who are beyond this line. How to fix the situation and increase the welfare of Russian citizens ..."
        For 30 years, the rulers of Russia have been solving this problem, but things are still there and even further from the final goal. It's time to change the entire domestic politics and economy. And only when we abandon this internal policy can we rectify the situation. In the meantime, this policy continues, we will continue to be engaged in a "talking shop" to find solutions to problems.
      4. -2
        5 March 2020 23: 15
        From 1.50 to 2 minutes ...
        And then we drove ..
    6. +10
      5 March 2020 10: 48
      Quote: Dalny V
      Putin, just the other day, clearly said that Russia is moving away from oil and gas dependence

      he had ISIS buried 5 times and talked about victory in Syria, and the war is only growing
    7. +12
      5 March 2020 13: 19
      Quote: Dalny V
      Russia moves away from oil and gas dependence

      And they promised us 25 million skilled jobs and an average salary of $ 2700 in 2020, and they promised the same thing about raising the retirement age ...
  4. +14
    5 March 2020 06: 18
    Quote: Dalny V
    In 12 years we’ll see. Those who survive. Amen.

    not about me ... recourse
    1. +9
      5 March 2020 10: 41
      Colleague, do not grieve me! I almost cried. Yes there - tears flowed. Live! God bless you !!!
      1. -1
        6 March 2020 04: 22
        Quote: depressant
        Colleague, do not grieve me! I almost cried. Yes there - tears flowed. Live! God bless you !!!

        what are you, Lyudmilka! set aside tears! everyone will be there! everything is fine!love
  5. +11
    5 March 2020 06: 41
    cadres decide everything, and Soviet specialists go where to take them and they are replaced immediately after the institute and with a bling for merits to the fatherland
    1. +18
      5 March 2020 09: 24
      Quote: Ryaruav
      and where to get them

      There are personnel, it’s just time to change the policy regarding the selection of personnel for the position. To move away from the promotion of lizoblyudov and promote competent specialists, true patriots who love their country and do not try to fill their pocket. Yes, it sounds pathetic, but at present there is no other way.
      From the speech of JV Stalin "Cadres decide everything" delivered on May 4, 1935 at the release of red commanders
      So, comrades, if we want to successfully overcome hunger in the field of people and to ensure that our country has a sufficient number of personnel capable of moving technology forward and putting it into action, we must first learn to value people, value personnel, value everyone an employee who can benefit our common cause. We must finally understand that of all the valuable capital available in the world, the most valuable and most decisive capital is people, personnel.
  6. +28
    5 March 2020 06: 45
    Recently, another series of the global project "24 Questions to Putin" was released on "Russia-20"
    In the year of the twentieth anniversary of accession to the throne, the head of state is asked questions by the Izvestia journalist.
    Sometimes even uncomfortable.
    So in this episode, the journalist mentioned in his question "Strategy - 2020".
    The fact that the Russian salary in 2020 should be $ 2700 under the Strategy. Or something like that ...
    The muscle did not flinch on the guarantor's face ...
    Yes, he says, they planned, but that they did not achieve the result is not our fault!
    The global crisis is to blame. Falling oil prices. Decrease in world production. Trends But not us ...
    We did not even have time to double our GDP. The crisis is worse. We barely managed to save the contributions of citizens!
    Thank God, otherwise there would be no contributions ... request
    1. +4
      5 March 2020 07: 06
      There are always reasons .... however, some of them are completely justified! Only it doesn’t make it easier for us.
    2. +17
      5 March 2020 07: 44
      The muscle did not flinch on the guarantor's face ...

      So he is professional in this .. and perhaps only in this .. When he announced the increase in the retirement age, he also did not flinch ..
      1. +13
        5 March 2020 09: 28
        He did not flinch, but everything fell.
      2. +14
        5 March 2020 14: 31
        Quote: Svarog
        When he announced the increase in retirement age, he also did not flinch

        The old man told me
        And I will forever remember this phrase:
        "Eyes cannot be beautiful,
        Which never cried.

        A soul cannot be beautiful
        Who never suffered
        And man is beautiful only
        When there is a heart, not a piece of metal! "
    3. +11
      5 March 2020 10: 52
      Quote: Paul Siebert
      not our fault!


      so it turned out, rowing "like a galley slave," but it turned out to be in the wrong direction. Probably it's time to replace the rower
  7. +9
    5 March 2020 06: 56
    WIKI
    Vladimir Aleksandr Mau (born December 29, 1959, Moscow) is a Russian economist close to E.T. Gaidar
    Since 2002 - Rector of the Academy of National Economy under the Government of the Russian Federation, and since 2010 - Rector of the Russian Academy of National Economy and Public Administration under the President of the Russian Federation. Acting State Advisor to the Russian Federation, Class I (2001), Honored Economist of the Russian Federation (2000), Member of the Presidium of the Economic Council under the President of the Russian Federation, Executive Director of the Organizing Committee of the Gaidar Forum.
    From the beginning, it is necessary to remove the Gaidarites from the government’s offices, and only then scribble the concepts.
  8. +2
    5 March 2020 07: 05
    Promise not to marry

    Oh how familiar this is to all of us !!! However, not only to us and not only to us! Here's the opposite to meet just .... but where is this seen, Schaub politicians kept their promises ???
    1. +10
      5 March 2020 09: 30
      Like where, in the UK, politicians promised to fulfill Brexit and did it.
      1. +2
        5 March 2020 09: 43
        Quote: Fan-Fan
        Like where, in the UK, politicians promised to fulfill Brexit and did it.

        This is a fact ... it didn’t work out. There is a coincidence of the interes, the upper and some parts of the lower, more and more rare.
    2. +1
      10 March 2020 00: 47
      Quote: rocket757
      but where is this seen, Schaub politicians kept their promises ???

      Adolf Gitler. He fulfilled his election promises. But then he arranged it ... He is still hitting, and not only in Germany, far from not only.
      1. 0
        10 March 2020 06: 35
        A very controversial assumption ... the collapse of everything, of him, occurred during his lifetime, and not when later.
        1. 0
          10 March 2020 22: 12
          Quote: rocket757
          A very controversial assumption ... the collapse of everything, of him, occurred during his lifetime, and not when later.

          I agree. Only it was not about the collapse of everything, but about the implementation of campaign promises. Therefore, he wrote as it is.
  9. +7
    5 March 2020 07: 35
    Discussing how much the owners of money oval out to the population is a very entertaining occupation. Moreover, there are no levers of influence either on the government. On the president. They do not have any money on the owners of the population. You can talk about this as much as you want ... to look for the guilty because of the global crisis. Conspiracy. imperfection of civil society. liberal economists. corruption and other things. if the main thing is loot in society. by any means and ways. That and the result will be one cash flow will come into certain pockets. And this is the main result. The rest can ... talk forget ... to announce major success ...
    1. -22
      5 March 2020 08: 00
      Quote: apro
      there are no levers of influence either on the government. nor on the president. nor on the owners of money from the population

      There are no levers, but a desire to participate in the political life of society. It’s easier to live when all your troubles can be attributed to a giraffe - he is big, he knows better.

      ps
      Even I forgot, in our country the bowels in the Constitution still belong to the people, or what?
      1. 0
        5 March 2020 08: 02
        Quote: Boris55
        and the desire to participate in the political life of society

        It smacks of red .... socialism he is.
        1. -15
          5 March 2020 08: 12
          Quote: apro
          It smacks of red .... socialism he is.

          Socialism is when prices go down.

          Under the so-called "surplus product" you can print money, or you can reduce prices. Stalin took the second path and this is what the bourgeois cannot forgive him.

          With the advent of capitalism, we were constantly raised salaries, pensions, etc., but the purchasing power fell. With lower prices, purchasing power rises, the poor become richer.

          All of us, under different "sauce", dream of exactly this, that the prices would go down.
      2. +19
        5 March 2020 09: 29
        A lot of things are written in the constitution, it’s better to look to whom the bowels actually belong and who receives income from their sale ...
        Quote: Boris55

        There are no levers, but a desire to participate in the political life of society.

        The required number of votes regarding the abolition of pension reform were collected. And where is the referendum? Something is not noticeable that the authorities agreed to hold a referendum.
        1. -12
          5 March 2020 09: 43
          Quote: Red
          The required number of votes regarding the abolition of pension reform were collected.

          And how many do you think should be? Are signature collection requirements met?

          Federal Constitutional Law of June 28.06.2004, 5 N 18.06.2017-FKZ (as amended on June XNUMX, XNUMX) "On the Referendum of the Russian Federation"
          "Article 14. ... 1. The initiative to hold a referendum belongs to:
          1) at least two million citizens of the Russian Federation entitled to participate in a referendum, provided that in the territory of one subject Of the Russian Federation or in aggregate outside the territory of the Russian Federation is a place of residence no more than 50 thousand of them"...
    2. +3
      5 March 2020 08: 58
      Well, at least on April 22 we’ll stay at home. Vote without us? So they have already voted. After all, it is important for partners to observe democracy. And we will not come.
      1. +12
        5 March 2020 09: 34
        They hope that we will not come, and they will draw for us as it should. And if we come, then they will have to draw more and longer, so let's at least make them smack.
        1. +1
          5 March 2020 09: 40
          Do not force. Everything is already voted up to us. It is important for them to turn up for the sake of turnout, in order to speak later, as the people decided.
          1. +9
            5 March 2020 09: 45
            Wait a minute, but won't the pros and cons count?
            1. +4
              5 March 2020 10: 07
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              Wait a minute, but won't the pros and cons count?

              But what, of course they will. As necessary, they will calculate it. Does anyone else have doubts? hi
      2. -13
        5 March 2020 09: 38
        Quote: Gardamir
        Well, at least on April 22 we’ll stay at home. Vote without us?

        I wonder why you are against the president’s amendments?
        One of them:

        "1) paragraph" t "of Article 71 shall be stated in the following wording:
        “R) federal public service; the establishment of restrictions for the replacement of state and municipal posts, posts of state and municipal service, including restrictions associated with the presence of citizenship of a foreign state or a residence permit or other document confirming the right of permanent residence of a citizen of the Russian Federation in the territory of a foreign state. ""


        Are you for the fact that we would be ruled by those who have wives, children, real estate and loot for the maid?

        I apologize for the question, are you a representative of the fifth column, working for the interests of our enemies, or out of thought against the nationalization of our elite?

        ps
        All presidential amendments:
        https://buhguru.com/spravka-info/izmeneniya-v-konstitutsiyu-2020-putin-tekst-popravok.html
        1. +2
          5 March 2020 09: 49
          Boris, I respect you because you are truly a patriot. But you too believe Putin.
          As for your example, I would like to see all the corrections.
          And then with so many amendments, these are not amendments, but the new Constitution.
          1. -12
            5 March 2020 09: 52
            Quote: Gardamir
            I would like to see all the amendments.

            The link to them in the afterword is the post above (this is what the first came across).

            The main thing is the president’s amendments (~ 10), all the rest are not so important. It’s not worth it, as some wrote, that because of the mention of God in the Constitution, they won’t go to vote ... So you can splash out a child with water.
            1. +10
              5 March 2020 10: 11
              And what prevented the nationalization of the elite without the adoption of amendments to the Constitution?
              For example, Mr. Peskov has relatives abroad. And Mr. Klishas, ​​real estate abroad.
              There are still many who I would like to see away from the authorities.
              But life experience suggests that all these people will remain in power. Otherwise, they would have already begun to leave their posts.
            2. +6
              5 March 2020 11: 52
              Quote: Boris55
              Quote: Gardamir
              I would like to see all the amendments.

              The link to them in the afterword is the post above (this is what the first came across).

              The main thing is the president’s amendments (~ 10), all the rest are not so important. It’s not worth it, as some wrote, that because of the mention of God in the Constitution, they won’t go to vote ... So you can splash out a child with water.

              And what prevents the separation of WATER and CHILD, i.e. arrange a vote on each amendment? The problem is precisely that together with the child they are trying to suck in dirty water, which many people want to throw out into the sewers, where it belongs. In general, those who stayed soviet a person should be at least uninteresting to participate (to help, for,) in any strengthening of the power of the anti-Soviet .... yes, pushing the state council (whose functions and powers will be determined then separate laws) in the bundle of amendments, I mean, and to the heap, the integrity of the former taxis.
            3. +1
              5 March 2020 19: 47
              So after all, with water, you can splash out a child.


              Or gobble up dysentery with an apple. What kind of special gift is there - State Council? Are you a lawyer and understand everything? Personally, I didn’t understand a damn thing. And no one has clearly explained how it is useful or vice versa dangerous subsequently.
              Advisory body? And why then in the constitution is it, the president and so full-time advisers and deputies have two buckets with a bunch.
        2. +10
          5 March 2020 11: 03
          Quote: Boris55
          Are you for the fact that we would be ruled by those who have wives, children, real estate and loot for the maid?


          you are a smart person! 20 years of Putin did not touch these lotions at all and suddenly he received his sight! Rave!
          Who is amending? Is Rodnina an American citizen? Jumpers from Monaco! Really funny. Bees against honey laughing
        3. +12
          5 March 2020 11: 29
          Quote: Boris55
          I wonder why you are against the president’s amendments?

          Because the constitution of Russia is written by the Americans. We need our own constitution. Do not amend this, but there will be no sense.
          From your link:
          b) adding part 6 follows:
          “6. In the Russian Federation, a pension system for citizens is being formed on the basis of the principles of universality, justice and solidarity of generations and its effective functioning is supported, and the size of pensions is regularly indexed in the manner prescribed by federal law. ”;

          Well, where is the principle of justice and solidarity, and even more so where is the effective functioning of pensions?
      3. AUL
        +3
        5 March 2020 10: 28
        Quote: Gardamir
        Well, at least on April 22 we’ll stay at home.

        It makes no difference to the rams where they are driven - to the pasture or to the slaughterhouse. People should be different from rams. And the policy "my house is on the edge, and without me they will decide everything" - mutton.
        1. +3
          5 March 2020 10: 56
          Lamb is when a person does not even try to think. In a democracy, only the one who conducts elections or polls decides. No other has been observed over the past 20 years.
          1. AUL
            +1
            5 March 2020 11: 37
            So relax and enjoy?
        2. +1
          5 March 2020 23: 34
          Quote from AUL
          sheep do not care where they are being driven - to pasture or to slaughter

          2 rams with herd - stability
    3. +3
      5 March 2020 10: 33
      Apro, right! So far, only bankers, owners of retail chains, and oligarchs-owners of the mining industry have been killed. They say that this year we will add somewhere around 300, or 600 thousand millionaires who have risen from a state of security. I’m wondering if other people will come to their former places? From the poor - yes to a state of security? To form over time the next wave of millionaires. There are doubts.
  10. +12
    5 March 2020 07: 46
    I am now going to express a seditious thought. One time ago, on all media, TV, and even here on VO, HPP was fiercely discussed. At the same time, no one could really say where it was written and they had a conversation with such "excuses" such as "May decrees", "presidential message" ...
    We don’t have time for buildup! (from)
    But there’s no one to ask. Neither for promises, nor for implementation.
    For Uryakalok, I’ll just say - rising gas prices since 2000 - and NOBODY, no one is responsible for this.
    Social policy is a complete failure.
    Domestic policy, including economic growth, is a complete failure.
    External? We express concern.
    The growth in the number of billionaires has been completed.
    So everything is fine - falling (s)
    1. +10
      5 March 2020 11: 05
      Quote: Honest Citizen
      no one is responsible for this.


      Putin doesn’t want to answer for us and will not. He has a different plan - to take first place in the world in the number of billionaires and millionaires!
      1. +5
        5 March 2020 11: 07
        So he fulfilled his plan. The Leningrad Judo School has graduated as many billionaires as Harvard did not graduate in a hundred years.
        1. +10
          5 March 2020 11: 55
          Quote: Honest Citizen
          So he fulfilled his plan. The Leningrad Judo School has graduated as many billionaires as Harvard did not graduate in a hundred years.

          Apparently, besides judo, the fundamentals of entrepreneurial activity were also taught higher economics. laughing Well, on the sidelines of the art of corruption .. good laughing
  11. BAI
    +12
    5 March 2020 08: 32
    Strategy 2020

    Exemplary hitting a finger in the sky. None of the forecasts came true, for which one of the developers, Mr. Mau, received Stolypin’s medal last month.
  12. 0
    5 March 2020 09: 09
    Started for health - finished for peace. sad
  13. +7
    5 March 2020 09: 33
    As a kid, he believed everything they said on television and wrote in the newspapers. I remember the 1985 Food Program. I was waiting for when this year 1985 comes and an abundance of products will appear in stores. I didn’t see it. laughing Now I don’t believe anyone. Until the system of checks and balances in the face of powerful trade unions and other legitimate popular activity works, they will not even move and will continue to shamelessly promise not going to do it. Power must be afraid of its people. The people must respect power.
    1. +13
      5 March 2020 09: 46
      But in reality they are not afraid of us, and we do not respect them.
      1. +13
        5 March 2020 11: 07
        Quote: Fan-Fan
        in fact, they are not afraid of us, and we do not respect them.


        in fact, the situation is akin to the USSR: the elite lives their own lives, their own people. When the sheher arrived, no one came out to defend this power, even the security forces. So it will be this time
        1. +10
          5 March 2020 11: 57
          Quote: Silvestr
          in fact, the situation is akin to the USSR: the elite lives their own lives, their own people. When the sheher arrived, no one came out to defend this power, even the security forces. So it will be this time

          Siloviks are now feeding heavily .. although the rank and file are the same as the whole people .. probably yes, it will be so ..
  14. +3
    5 March 2020 09: 42
    Well, we went around on the concept and continued, criticized, aroused the anger of people and then what's the bottom line?
    1. +3
      5 March 2020 10: 06
      We don’t have to lie! am
  15. +4
    5 March 2020 11: 30
    In my opinion, just as those in power have fulfilled their previous "concepts", they are fulfilling today's ones, and so they will fulfill their tomorrow's promises.
    A vivid example of the quality of their perspicacity, the ability to set real tasks and achieve their fulfillment, and indeed two aspects of rational activity: analysis and synthesis.
    Not to mention responsibility for your words, plans, ideas, and so on.
    There is none of this.
    And with these Golikovs, Nabiulins, Grefs, Chubais, Kudrins, Siluanovs - there will not be, at least put Mishustin, though Shoigu over them ... This is a nasty collective (not even a collective - they hardly love or respect each other), which I couldn’t do anything useful before, and there is no reason to think that I can now.
    Unfortunately, in the 18th year we were greatly mistaken in the main choice, or rather, we were fooled, shamelessly and completely.
    1. +8
      5 March 2020 11: 59
      Quote: faterdom
      Unfortunately, in the 18th year we were greatly mistaken in the main choice, or rather, we were fooled, shamelessly and completely.

      It’s not yet final .. finally it will be when the new Constitution is adopted .. here the president will turn into a king, he will not be responsible for any of his affairs, because he is beyond jurisdiction .. Here they go around ..
    2. 0
      5 March 2020 12: 00
      Yes, in the 18th I made a mistake in my vote. It was necessary to cross out the ballot.
      You see ... I am a conscientious citizen of my country, and now in despair. Here is a new vote. According to the amendments. I will go to vote, this is my civic duty. By voting against, I will reject social amendments for the long term and will be to blame for the people of my country. By voting for, I may vote for a suffocating amendment on the Central Bank. How embarrassing is the president to put me before such a choice!
      Let him publish the amendments to the Central Bank!
  16. 0
    5 March 2020 12: 05
    The latest National Projects seem to have the same degree of elaboration. So the result will be the same. And the main thing is that the performer of all these "good" desires, as always, is not in the subject. The "smart" heads at the top gathered and decided that the people should perform this kumasutra.
  17. +3
    5 March 2020 14: 04
    Quote: depressant
    By voting against, I will reject social amendments for the long term and will be to blame for the people of my country.

    That's what they catch us for. Does the Sultan of Brunei or the Qatari Emir have any social corrections? Or is it a constitution?
    Because the definition of a "social state" is enshrined in the current version of the Constitution of Russia, has it become social?
    Because you can’t pass laws that worsen the situation of citizens - they haven’t been accepted all this time?
    More important, in fact - not what the constitution is, but who uses it and how. Personalities.
    The result is obvious.
    Still we will check for lice?
    1. 0
      5 March 2020 19: 05
      Namely, a colleague. Laws should not worsen the position of a citizen. And today I open Yandex, and there is a message about a new law, according to which your newsletter and leave will now be paid not by the employer, but by the insurance company. Imagine running around. Sick? Did you sleep at home? Forward to the clinic to close the newsletter, then a bunch of more certificates and - boldly to the insurance company for payment. I just can’t imagine how it should look.
      Or here.
      Communicating here with colleagues at one of the forums right after the New Year, I have listed several laws that will come into force this year. In particular, the use of stun guns by the police since March 2. One of the colleagues, turning to everyone, asked me to report on the fact of application, if any. So here.
      Already on February 28 in Irkutsk, a taxi driver took the client home, but could not wake the tipsy guy. He called the police. We arrived and immediately shocked him. The guy died of heart failure. Near your home. Almost in front of the mother. Police officers - Alexander Ankheev, Arkady Lyubimov.
  18. +2
    5 March 2020 15: 16
    Commentary on the first figure: the Gaussian distribution or the normal distribution has a symmetric distribution density function. And numbered drawings should be placed after references in the text. ANY student should know this, and here - the doctor of sciences.
  19. 0
    5 March 2020 21: 02
    If this "concept" had been invented twenty years ago, under the system that was "built" by rowing on the gallery. (and some rowed so desperately for themselves) That you begin to doubt that in a pack of wolves there will be a leader who lives by other rules of the "white crow". All this is nothing more than vanity. Aimed at not being torn off the oars.
  20. 0
    5 March 2020 22: 54
    Quote: To be or not to be
    Fan-Fan Today, 09:22 AM NEW
    +3
    Do you mean to say that the whole world is going our way? Eco had enough? Japan, Germany, USA .. ""
    Maybe we go their way. Lord laughing ??
    "In the Penza region, at the cadet school in the village of Michurinsky, new rules have been introduced - to address teachers not by their first name and patronymic, but" mistress "and" master. " .. There really is such a rule in the "Regulations on Cossack Cadet Classes of the MOBU MOSH p. Michurinsky." Eadaily portal. ""
    https://vpk.name/news/381395_tovarishi_konchilis_snova_prishli_gospoda.html
    "Capitalism. My friend"
    They returned us to capitalism - to the past - without asking the consent of the peoples of the country ..

    Have you returned the duel? Gentlemen can you afford ...
  21. 0
    6 March 2020 01: 30
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    I propose specifically: the prohibition of work in the government of all who studied "with them"

    )))) And who is it all assigned to? Do not tell me? Well, read, for example, this:
    "Deputy Prime Ministers of the Russian Federation and federal ministers are appointed and dismissed by the President of the Russian Federation at the suggestion of the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation."
    Well, everything else is assigned the same way and I think the clear leadership will not pass.
    So "thank you" you need to say yourself you know who you know for what! Or someone else believes in the necessary appointments for business and professional qualities (I'm not talking about "those" "business" qualities, but about the real ones)