Safety corridor on the M4 road: Turkish media said that Putin and Erdogan were discussing not only Idlib


Turkish media are actively commenting on the hours-long negotiations between Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan that ended on the eve.


Turkish military correspondents reportedly "monitored the situation in Idlib from 0:00 on March 6th." It is noted that with the advent of new days in the Syrian province ceased fire. From a message from Haber correspondents:

Our team has been keeping abreast in this region all night. The fire stopped, the explosions stopped, the flights aviation have ceased.

Further, specific agreements on Syria (other than those related to the ceasefire in Idlib) are reported. As it turned out, the Turkish president was not only concerned about Idlib at these negotiations.

So, it is reported that Putin and Erdogan agreed to create a so-called security corridor up to 6 km deep in the northern part of the M4 highway. We are talking about the highway, which goes from Aleppo through the entire north of the SAR towards the eastern borders of the country. After patrolling the famous Turkish operation, difficulties arose in patrolling the area.

From the report:

Joint Turkish-Russian military patrols east of the Euphrates will provide security.

Judging by the attention paid to this by the Turkish media, for Ankara this is no less important than the situation in Idlib. The fact is that Turkey is trying, under certain conditions, to create a border buffer along the entire Syrian-Turkish border.



This suggests that Erdogan is worried, to put it mildly, to a large extent, the issue of Kurdish armed forces in the north and northeast of Syria.

As noted, the presidents also agreed on channels for the delivery of humanitarian assistance to Idlib residents and to facilitate the return of refugees to their homes in this Syrian province.
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  1. Livonetc 6 March 2020 07: 01 New
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    As expected.
    Kurdish guarantees and joint patrols.
    The question is whether the Turks will be able to calm the militants this time.
    1. bald 6 March 2020 07: 21 New
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      Gennady hello. Because of the Kurds fly to Moscow?, I'm sorry.
      1. Shurik70 6 March 2020 07: 29 New
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        On a map of the neighborhood of Raqqa, not Idlib.
        And what does yellow color mean. Nothing?
        1. dorz 6 March 2020 07: 38 New
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          The situation in the province of Idlib, taking into account the agreements reached between Putin and Erdogan:
          1. Nastia makarova 6 March 2020 08: 02 New
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            as I said, there will be a truce and the idlib will be divided in half)))))
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              1. Nastia makarova 6 March 2020 10: 21 New
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                answer but later
              2. dauria 6 March 2020 12: 39 New
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                But I do not agree, for my actions, fucking should answer


                Like a week ago, I repeat - To all local peasants to distribute sapper shovels and learn tactics - we have no brains for more.
                Nastya should be sent as an adviser to Lavrov - her strategy is all right.
        2. Livonetc 6 March 2020 07: 39 New
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          Maybe this is a security zone?
          1. bald 6 March 2020 10: 28 New
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            Gennady, there’s some sort of stray formed, Be careful.
      2. Livonetc 6 March 2020 07: 31 New
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        So for what?
        Not for the sake of a dream of a new Ottoman Empire.
        Moscow has historically been the grave of this dream.
        Moscow is more likely a chance of a new impetus to Turkey’s economic development.
        Then for stability?
    2. maidan.izrailovich 6 March 2020 07: 36 New
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      The question is whether the Turks will be able to calm the militants this time.

      They (Turks) could reassure the militants before that. And if they have not reassured, then they do not want this.
      1. Livonetc 6 March 2020 07: 41 New
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        The question is, actually.
        Most likely, not all groups want to submit to Turkey.
        Rather, allies in case of coincidence of interests at a certain moment.
    3. musorg 6 March 2020 11: 36 New
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      More precisely whether they want to! And they can be able to.
    4. Mar.Tirah 6 March 2020 15: 36 New
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      Quote: Livonetc
      Kurdish guarantees and joint patrols.
      The question is whether the Turks will be able to calm the militants this time.

      Nobody can give them guarantees. Is it really Russia? Judging by the first patrol, the Turkish armored car hung so tightly at the stern of the Russian KAMAZ that the distance was about a meter. So it was afraid of poor blasting. The militants obey them only partially, a large half do not. Therefore, the day two and they will start attacking again.
    5. Paul Siebert 7 March 2020 20: 30 New
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      The question is whether the Turks will be able to calm the militants this time.

      Turks are fighters. Erdogan oversees the Muslim Brotherhood party. An organization recognized as terrorist.
      To support this party, it is also climbing into Libya, protecting its regime in Tripoli.
      Arranging joint patrols with askers is ridiculous and harmful.
      It's like carrying an adder in your bosom. wink
  2. Deniska999 6 March 2020 07: 02 New
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    Strictly speaking, the parties simply took a break. Common words, and only ...
    1. Dude 6 March 2020 10: 42 New
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      Quote: Deniska999
      Strictly speaking, the parties simply took a break. Common words, and only ...

      I got exactly the same impression, judging by the stinginess of official statements. However, the Turkish side was marked by rather bold statements, which, in view of their relatively strong military position, as well as the need to play on the patriotic feelings of the Turkish electorate, is understandable. Nevertheless, at the moment, we have not failed in our negotiating position.
      From a personal emotional one, I didn’t like how persistently our President expressed his condolences to the Sultan. But this, I emphasize - is solely my emotional assessment.
      1. bessmertniy 6 March 2020 11: 48 New
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        Everything is clearly freezing. It is better not to rejoice at tomatoes in the Turkish beds. And Turkish hotels should roll up their lips about the income from our tourists. negative
        1. Dude 6 March 2020 12: 00 New
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          Quote: bessmertniy
          Everything is clearly freezing. It is better not to rejoice at tomatoes in the Turkish beds. And Turkish hotels should roll up their lips about the income from our tourists. negative

          Well, your words - to God’s ears ... Personally, I could never understand what was the point of integrating the Turkish economy into ours (starting with the mass arrival of Turkish builders in our two capitals, back in the 90s), and, contemporary to us - the Russian economy in Turkey (Potok, S-400, nuclear power plants, etc.).
          Geopolitical contradictions are far from resolved, like ballet from MMA, why is this artificial friendship? And, exclusively, from our side?
          In general, I cannot understand the aspirations of Vladimir Vladimirovich, to please everyone to partners. request
          1. bessmertniy 6 March 2020 12: 07 New
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            I also do not understand what the hell these Turkish builders were for us when ours were unemployed. no
            1. _Ugene_ 6 March 2020 13: 44 New
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              I also do not understand what the hell these Turkish builders were for us when ours were unemployed.
              You are simply not in the subject, in fact, the Turks are building with us for purely economic reasons - they are building better, faster and cheaper than ours, alas, but this is true. I myself am not enthusiastic about this, but the customer votes in rubles, the market
            2. Dude 7 March 2020 13: 47 New
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              Quote: bessmertniy
              I also do not understand what the hell these Turkish builders were for us when ours were unemployed. no

              Some "Unknown Fathers" (c) earned very well on this wink repeat
  3. V1er 6 March 2020 07: 03 New
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    There is no trust in the Turks. It was already, the militants from the de-escalation zone launched drones at our base and fired at the positions of the SAA.
  4. master 52 6 March 2020 07: 08 New
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    better a bad peace than war, only there will be no peace. there people in Idlib earn in the war. if the Kurds for the most part throw stones at the Turks, then m4 will be in our
  5. bald 6 March 2020 07: 10 New
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    It seems completely different - the opposite is true. Remember who wanted to dunk Erdogan and whose hands. Now it’s closer who is giving away at the moment by the Turkish army - there isn’t not the Minister of Defense - no matter how ridiculous it sounds - relatives - this is crazy for us.
    1. bessmertniy 6 March 2020 12: 10 New
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      I repent, I personally wanted to. Do it yourself. recourse However, the hands grew short and weak. I can’t reach it. request
  6. Aleksey Aleksandrovich 6 March 2020 07: 18 New
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    Turks do not change over the centuries. Screaming pontorez.
  7. Ross xnumx 6 March 2020 07: 29 New
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    Will provide security joint Turkish-Russian military patrols east of the Euphrates.

    This decision is the most annoying. The situation is not yet ripe for the Russian military (military police) to patrol together. Well, there is no TRUST for this Turkish side ...
    NOT!!!
    fool It is clear that this is almost the same thing as walking along the corridors of the Kremlin together with the Turkish delegation.
  8. maidan.izrailovich 6 March 2020 07: 33 New
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    In short, the situation again hangs. And all the points above the "and" are not placed.
    And this is ....
    ... the presidents also agreed on channels for the delivery of humanitarian aid to residents ...

    ... so generally a gift to Erdogan.
    Well, we then understand what kind of "residents" the Turks will deliver "humanitarian aid."
    So the war continues.
    1. Dude 6 March 2020 10: 51 New
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      So the war continues.
      Undoubtedly. Conflict, a priori, geostrategic. Moreover, it is between Turkey and Russia. Both countries are striving to radically strengthen their positions not only in the East, but also in the entire Mediterranean, as a whole, and not only (here there is competition in the global global arms market, and mutually beneficial, it seems, partnership in many sectors of the economy, and mutually exclusive interests of our countries in the Black Sea region, Crimea, Ukraine, Armenia, etc., etc., etc., - everything is very tightly tied into one knot).
      Yes, and the imperial and restoration aspirations of Turkey, which to us, frankly, like a sickle ...
      Everything is not easy there.
  9. Vasyan1971 6 March 2020 07: 50 New
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    Further, specific agreements on Syria are reported ...

    No, I missed something, apparently. What exactly have you got it? How did the arrow end? By the list. Sultan thunder and lightning metal, threatened with threats, fired from guns across the border ... What in the dry residue do we have now? Where to read?
    1. Andobor 6 March 2020 08: 11 New
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      Quote: Vasyan1971
      Sultan thunder and lightning metal, threatened with threats, fired from guns across the border ...

      - M 4 merged, except that in fact they occupied, - and is not mentioned at all.
    2. Aleksandr21 6 March 2020 08: 54 New
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      Quote: Vasyan1971
      What is the bottom line now? Where to read?


      Where to read without a clue, maybe some experts. I see the situation, so the conflict was frozen, both sides made concessions and compromises. I honestly don’t see the victory of Russia here .... since the terrorists hid under the Turkish umbrella in Idlib and no one will bomb them now, since every blow to them will be answered by the Syrian troops and this is already a violation of the agreement and our side is the first to it won’t work, then Idlib couldn’t completely release everything, half remained with the Turkish side and she apparently doesn’t intend to give it away, and when the SAA tries again to launch a counter-terrorist operation, it leads the army and the conflict will flare up with renewed vigor. By the way, at a press conference after the negotiations, Erdogan didn’t have anything to disarm the militants at all, only the "Assad regime is to blame" and that the regime’s troops are responsible for the situation in Idlib, i.e. he did not change his vision and position, which means that the militants as they were and will remain on the Turkish side in Idlib. Although our truths could also impose their conditions, the territory that the SAA recaptured from the protest remains with the Syrians, that’s basically all.
      1. Vasyan1971 6 March 2020 09: 11 New
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        In short, leaked on the brakes, it turns out. We bought Barmalean lives at the expense of the Turkish. But the barmalei are such an audience that they can rest, their pants rinse and climb again. So what? Don't say Slova in response? Permanent hotbed of tension? Or another "Unrecognized Turkish Republic" type of Cyprus?
        I swim finely, apparently - I’m not catching up ...
        1. Aleksandr21 6 March 2020 09: 23 New
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          Apparently the stake is on the prudence of the Turkish leadership, and that Erdogan’s Ottoman ambitions outweigh the economic interests and ties between Russia and Turkey, while the conflict froze, it will not be known ... if Turkey is satisfied with the current conditions, then the situation in Idlib could be frozen for a long time, if not, then we will see new attempts by pro-Turkish militants to recapture the territory occupied by the SAA. What Russia will do in this case, without a clue, but ours clearly expect that the Turkish side will fulfill its obligations. But it will be a hotbed of tension, the militants will not go anywhere, Turkey does not plan to disarm them, and it is impossible to liquidate them either, any such attempt will lead to retaliatory military actions from the Turkish side, so there’s a dead end.
          1. Vasyan1971 6 March 2020 09: 39 New
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            Quote: Aleksandr21
            while the conflict froze

            Quote: Aleksandr21
            so it's a dead end.

            Apparently, yes.
            1. Dude 6 March 2020 10: 58 New
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              Quote: Vasyan1971
              Quote: Aleksandr21
              while the conflict froze

              Quote: Aleksandr21
              so it's a dead end.

              Apparently, yes.

              At the moment, the situational deadlock is undeniable.
              Exclusively IMHO - judging by the very long time that the first persons spent on face-to-face negotiations, I do not exclude a considerable number of highly confidential agreements.
              Considering that one and the other leader have an urgent need, at the moment, very much to look back on their own internal electorate and on the opposition (in the broad sense of the word) forces within their countries - I won’t be surprised if I’m not far from the truth .
              However, time will tell.
    3. Leshy1975 6 March 2020 11: 17 New
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      Quote: Vasyan1971
      Further, specific agreements on Syria are reported ...

      No, I missed something, apparently. What exactly have you got it? How did the arrow end? By the list. Sultan thunder and lightning metal, threatened with threats, fired from guns across the border ... What in the dry residue do we have now? Where to read?

      The bottom line is approximately the following: RF-Turkey, the score is conditionally draw. Of the losers, Assad is currently conditionally. Because in spite of some territorial acquisitions, he suffered significant losses in equipment, which the Russian Federation will surely make up for, and I also think that there are significant losses in the advancing troops. They even wrote about the death of the Tiger commander, but most likely this is a fake. But the loss of several senior commanders, the Syrians recognized.
      Assad’s most significant loss is that starting an offensive with insufficient forces, and as a result, signing a ceasefire. It made it possible for Turkey to actually openly consolidate the occupied territories for itself (source MK.ru):
      As a result, journalists literally had to catch Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu on the fly to find out the main thing: "But what about the military operation in Idlib? Will she not be under any circumstances?". “Yes,” he answered monosyllabically.. And I also found it possible to add that in the near future the provisions of the memorandum on stabilization of the situation in Idlib, which was signed on the sidelines of the Russian-Turkish negotiations, agree with the Syrian government.
      (Goblin - the second time we (Russia) share Idlib with Turkey, WITHOUT Syria)

      Source Kommersant: On March 5, the presidents of Russia and Turkey, Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan, held talks and agreed on a memorandum to resolve the situation in Syria:
      Russia and Turkey agree that the Syrian conflict has no military solution;
      from 0:00 on March 6, a ceasefire will be introduced in Idlib;
      a security corridor will be created 6 km north and south of the M4 highway in Syria;
      from March 15, a joint Russian-Turkish patrol will begin along the M4 highway in Syria;
      the parties reaffirmed their commitment to the sovereignty of Syria and expressed their intention to fight terrorism;
      Turkey reserves the right to respond to the actions of the Syrian government forces.

      However, most likely this is a temporary pause (I do not know how much), because the contradictions between Turia and the SAR with the signing of this truce have not disappeared. And it is unlikely at the moment at least which of the parties is ready to abandon claims to Idlib. Surely preparations will be made for the new database and when one of the parties considers itself strong enough, the other will be accused of non-compliance with the agreement and everything will start again.
      It is also interesting what other issues were considered during the bidding on Idlib. First of all, you need to pay attention to Libya. I admit that Erdogan could have received as compensation the consent of the Russian Federation not to oppose him in Libya, especially since the interests of the Russian Federation in Libya and Syria are not comparable.

      PS Preservation of Syria within its former borders. As before, I continue to believe that this is not possible in the foreseeable future. hi
      1. Salty 6 March 2020 11: 49 New
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        Quote: Leshy1975
        RF-Turkey, conditionally draw

        Not quite so: Russia-USA, score 1: 0. Turkey is not a player, Turkey is a figure in the game. Like Assad. The Sultan announced that he would “tear off the hands of the regime,” but, without tearing anything, he calmed down. Having lost a good piece of “conditionally his” territory and showing the world that trolling Russia is unsafe.

        Quote: Leshy1975
        Russia and Turkey agree that the Syrian conflict has no military solution

        Isn’t you here prophesying a quick war with Turkey, oh great AI?

        Quote: Leshy1975
        I admit that Erdogan could have received as compensation the consent of the Russian Federation not to oppose him in Libya

        Do not beg. Nothing good happened for you, “red” stood up and won another, albeit small, but victory in foreign policy.

        Quote: Leshy1975
        Still keep counting

        Try not to count, but to think, but what if it works out? wink
        1. Leshy1975 6 March 2020 12: 04 New
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          Quote: SaltY
          Isn’t you here prophesying a quick war with Turkey, oh great AI?

          No, not me. I do not need to ascribe other people's words. I just insisted that the Russian Federation has no chance to defeat Turkey precisely in Syria, and the forces there. On which I continue to insist.

          And I promised, the reincarnation of Golovan, to ignore you. And here, you can blame me for not fully fulfilling this promise.
          1. Salty 6 March 2020 12: 11 New
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            No, not me. I do not need to ascribe other people's words

            I apologize, that means I confused you with someone.

            Quote: Leshy1975
            I, the reincarnation of Golovan,

            Oh, and you, too, the reincarnation of Golovan? By the way, I already have it in my mail, and Vatsape will be there soon. He promises to appear here next week. It seems that he is a serious pain for you, and not only for you. Get ready.
      2. Vasyan1971 6 March 2020 12: 06 New
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        Quote: Leshy1975
        Of the losers, Assad is currently conditionally.

        He was such from the very beginning. The question was: "How much?" It’s fortunate that it even repelled.
        Quote: Leshy1975
        As before, I continue to believe that this is not possible in the foreseeable future.

        I bow to the same. Not to mention that the Americans will not return the extracted oil. Tearing Syria all and sundry. Jews, Americans, Turks and absolutely outright bandits ...
  10. askort154 6 March 2020 07: 57 New
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    So, it is reported that Putin and Erdogan agreed to create a so-called security corridor up to 6 km deep in the northern part of the M4 highway


    They pretended to agree on something. This could be solved by telephone.
    Most likely, this is the tip of the iceberg for the media. The underwater part is not for publicity.
    1. Vasyan1971 6 March 2020 08: 23 New
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      Quote: askort154
      Most likely, this is the tip of the iceberg for the media. The underwater part is not for publicity.

      Yes. “Agreed to abide by previous agreements” - what does this mean? The Syrians will give back the battered? Will they stop there? Will continue? Barmalei will become good children and will not shit because of Turkish backs?
      What the Syrian fighters died for is understandable - for their land. And why did the Janissary grind? Like bought Barmalean lives at the expense of the Turkish?
      I can’t see from my sofa ...
  11. Dmitry Bolotsky 6 March 2020 08: 17 New
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    Judging by the map, a huge piece was given by the Turks without fighting. Plus, both strategic routes will not have to be fired by barmales. Why discouragement in discussions? If I understood everything correctly, this is a serious victory.
    1. maidan.izrailovich 6 March 2020 08: 31 New
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      Judging by the map ....
      If I understood everything correctly, this is a serious victory.

      It was beautiful on paper ....
      Wait and see.
    2. Andobor 6 March 2020 09: 18 New
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      Quote: Dmitry Bolotsky
      Why discouragement in discussions?

      Because the interested and active part of commentators, like everywhere else in the network, is hired labor, Ukrainians usually work at home, they know the language and are very cheap, so they master Western money to fight “Russian propaganda” - in Ukraine there is no other job and poverty is impossible . And for example, it doesn’t occur to me to jump and scream cheers, despite the brilliant achievements.
  12. Sergst 6 March 2020 08: 27 New
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    Quote: Vasyan1971

    No, I missed something, apparently. What exactly have you got it? How did the arrow end? By the list. Sultan thunder and lightning metal, threatened with threats, fired from guns across the border ... What in the dry residue do we have now? Where to read?

    There is such a site kremlin.ru - there is primary information about the negotiations.
  13. Artemy Morozov 6 March 2020 09: 02 New
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    Violation of the truce will definitely be. And the parties will begin to blame each other. In this regard, I see only a massive blow to terrorists and the capture of Idlib with the deployment of our contingent along the border with Turkey. Further negotiations and economic pressure from both sides, where the Turks will be the loser.
    1. Andobor 6 March 2020 09: 52 New
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      Quote: Artemy Morozov
      Violation of the truce will definitely be. And the parties will begin to blame each other.

      The agreement in advance contains demands that were obviously impracticable for militants, just as their previous Sochi agreement contained, the Sochi agreement ended in occupying half of the Idlib zone and destroying a significant part of the stubborn militants whom the Turks had made for Assad.
  14. signifera 6 March 2020 10: 06 New
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    So what about a piece south of the security zone? Not quite clear. There you can finish off the militants or a truce? Whose is it in the end?
    1. Vaddik 6 March 2020 11: 56 New
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      Since it’s not prohibited by the agreement, then you can probably finish it off before reaching the “security corridor”
  15. Dimas54 6 March 2020 10: 11 New
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    Quote: Dmitry Bolotsky
    If I understood everything correctly, this is a serious victory.

    It’s interesting how the GDP killed Erdogan to hand over such a piece without a fight, and even M4 without a fight.
  16. faterdom 6 March 2020 10: 15 New
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    Well, what Turkey wanted, on the eve of the visit, it was completely bluntly voiced by its upper people. What did you get? To put it mildly, from the donkey's ears, and even that is one. But the trend is marked - they will still indulge and incite - the next time everything will be much worse.
    Yes, and the holiday season, I think, the Turks can already record for themselves as a minus, dispersed a muddy wave of bashbuzuk - let it themselves digest it there now.
  17. Igor Gul 6 March 2020 10: 31 New
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    Well, Idlib is understandable. What about Serakib?
    1. Paranoid50 6 March 2020 11: 19 New
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      What about Serakib?

      With Serakib everything was left in the hands of the rightful owner, like the entire M5 highway. And already from the fork with M4 and further along it will go "neutral". Let it be for now.
  18. Vaddik 6 March 2020 11: 53 New
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    A truce for a while. Until the next halving of the control zone of the militants.
  19. iouris 6 March 2020 13: 14 New
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    There is reason to believe that Erdogan discussed not only Idlib and the Kurds, but also his (personal) fate. The militants in Idlib will not be allowed to dispose of the States. Militants will advance and demand support from the Turkish army, and the opposition, using this topic, will overthrow Erdogan a little (but very democratic, not at all painful).
  20. Mountain shooter 7 March 2020 13: 56 New
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    Too little time has passed. The Turks did not abandon their plans. Just temporarily silenced. Again, the tourist season can be disrupted. 6 million tourists from Russia !!! And every minimum of a piece of bucks will bring (on average) ... they rivet themselves a lot more drones, dig up ammunition, and try again in the fall, IMHO.