A video appeared on the web of attempts by militants to bring down the MiG-23 and Su-34 over Idlib

A video appeared on the web that allegedly shot an attempt by militants in Idlib province to hit the Syrian Air Force and Su-23 Russian Air Force from MANPADS MiG-34. The description for the shot video states that the Syrian and Russian aircraft managed to avoid defeat by firing heat traps.

This video was shot and published by the militants of one of the groups fighting against government forces in the province of Idlib. According to the Telegram channel Directorate 4, the terrorists tried to bring down the MiG-23 of the Syrian Air Force and Su-34 of the Russian Air Force from MANPADS in the vicinity of the towns of Banish and Sarmin.

In both cases, the crews managed to escape from the fire by shooting false thermal targets

- stated in the material.

The likelihood that this video really shows attempts to bring down the Syrian and Russian Aviation Idlib is quite large. Last Wednesday, militants three times announced attempts to bring down planes that attacked their positions. However, as the terrorists themselves admit, all their attempts were unsuccessful.

It was previously reported that pro-Turkish groups fighting on the side of the Syrian opposition, including the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham terrorist group banned in Russia, got US-made MANPADS, most likely handed over by the Turkish military to repel attacks by Russian and Syrian aircraft.

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[Sky strike fighter]

In the hands of pro-Turkish groups fighting on the side of the Syrian opposition, including the terrorist group Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, banned in Russia, American-made MANPADS, most likely transferred by the Turkish military to repel attacks by Russian and Syrian aircraft, fell into the hands of.

"Friend Recep" is playing pranks.

[Paul Siebert]

"Friend Recep" is playing pranks.

Caution, men, these monkeys are not joking!
Well, that cost ...

[neri73-r]

Quote: Paul Siebert

"Friend Recep" is playing pranks.

Caution, men, these monkeys are not joking!
Well, that cost ...

I think ours know. The ceiling at MANPADS is up to 5 km, all this is taken into account when striking.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: neri73-r

all this is taken into account when striking.

Well done, respect to the crews and those who planned. It’s time to keep the “mopping-up group” ready at the ready together — to fill up the launch areas, so that it wouldn’t be bad.

[Doctor]

I think ours know. The ceiling at MANPADS is up to 5 km, all this is taken into account when striking.

Our S-400 ceiling is also known. But did this knowledge be taken into account when concluding a deal to sell it to the Turks?

[bayard]

Quote: Arzt

Our S-400 ceiling is also known. But did this knowledge be taken into account when concluding a deal to sell it to the Turks?

It won't hurt its own - of course, such scenarios were taken into account when supplying and assembling the S-400E. Against our planes, they (the Turks) need Patriots.
But.
As Erdogan himself admitted, "now the United States has no Patriots for us."

[smart ass]

If this continues on, sooner or later they will bring down

[fighter angel]

Such friends, for one place, and to the museum!
They said, this "dryuchba" with the Turks for the time being, for the time being!
Turkey is not an ally of Russia.
They did not believe, they minus ... Now are you convinced?

God grant that for our and Syrians the number of take-offs is equal to the number of landings !!!
Now - especially!

[orionvitt]

Nobody ever said that the Turks are our friends. It seemed to you. A situational ally, yes. And about "love to the grave", you probably invented it yourself.

[Livonetc]

The shooting of heat traps is visible, I did not notice attempts to defeat in the video.
And the shooting of false targets should be carried out in any case when working at low altitudes in the area of ​​possible use of MANPADS.

[Sauron80]

And what did the Su-34 at low altitude? Is he a ground attack aircraft?

[Livonetc]

Multifunctional fighter-bomber.
What I did specifically is not known to me.
Surely fulfilled the assigned combat mission.

[Sauron80]

That is, our little littered Tu-22 in Georgia, when the aircraft is used for other purposes? Now the Su-34 flies in the area of ​​MANPADS.

[Livonetc]

Let us judge the intended use by professionals.
Today there are significantly more of them in our army than in 2008.

[figwam]

Quote: Sauron80

That is, our little littered Tu-22 in Georgia, when the aircraft is used for other purposes?

Just Tu-22m3 worked as intended.

[max702]

Quote: Sauron80

That is, our little littered Tu-22 in Georgia, when the aircraft is used for other purposes? Now the Su-34 flies in the area of ​​MANPADS.

Tu-22, our stupid non-brothers from the "Buk" filled up .. Bratsky nart .. As in Chechnya fought in thousands .. And then they are surprised at the volunteers in Donbass ..

[figwam]

Quote: Livonetc

The shooting of heat traps is visible, I did not notice attempts to defeat in the video.

Yes, I didn’t see the same rockets from the ground, well, it’s better for us.

Quote: Sauron80

And what did the Su-34 at low altitude? Is he a ground attack aircraft?

He is at high altitude, this is an approximation of the camera.

[g1washntwn]

I imposed NATO on the control of MANPADS and, I sense that these missiles will come back to haunt far from the SAR. Maybe by the "sleeping moderate refugees" themselves, or maybe by the special services for a rigged provocation.

[cniza]

What is most regrettable, with US civilian aircraft.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: g1washntwn

NATO inflicted control over MANPADS and, I feel that these missiles come back far from the ATS... Maybe by the "sleeping moderate refugees" themselves, or maybe by the special services for a rigged provocation.

Something like this. At the very least, the Taliban claim that they dropped a US Air Force Bombardier E-11A in January 2020 with the help of Stinger. Here, too, it is not known to whom the bearded will resell the MANPADS that fell into their hands and where they can now be used. Now no one is immune from "surprises".

[Sergei 777]

Erdogan is playing with fire. Indeed, MANPADS can now appear in the Kurds.

[bessmertniy]

It should be noted that not only the Syrian Kurds, but also the Turkish. And they still want to secede from Turkey.

[cniza]

It seems to me that they have already appeared and we did not do it ...

[bessmertniy]

However, the Kurdistan Workers Party is still quiet after Erdogan’s suppression of Deryakabyr.

[Puzoter]

I wonder why he maneuvers this way. At low altitude, it flips from wing to wing, twists turns ... Does it look for something? Or militants troll ...

[Wolf]

To feel? Where they are?

[Piramidon]

Quote: puzoter

At low altitude

How did you determine that this is "low" height? Through a telescope and the moon seems close.

[Puzoter]

It releases heat traps, which means it is afraid of MANPADS, so the height is relatively small. Yes, and the lens shake shows that the increase is not large.

[Mouse]

Syrian and Russian aircraft managed to avoid defeat

All is well that ends well!

[Sauron80]

Quote: figvam

He is at high altitude, this is an approximation of the camera.

By low altitude, I meant the reach of MANPADS.

[donavi49]

Well now deployed and air defense systems in Idlib. In fact, these are the same stingers. But on a stable platform. With a range finder. With multimode station having TPV.

[BREAKTHROUGH READY]

The effectiveness of this miracle, in comparison with a portable "stinger", raises questions.
A missile with an infrared seeker does not need a stabilized launch platform; MANPADS also have a thermal imager. At the same time, the vulnerability of the m113-based air defense system is noticeably higher than the arrow with the pipe on the shoulder, which you still have to go find.

[lukewarm]

We also have Strela-10. It probably makes sense. Compared with MANPADS, there are many goodies.

[donavi49]

MANPADS from the shoulder still has a number of limitations. Both by mass launch, and by visual capture (you need to find the target with your eyes, point it at the pens). Well and in range. TPV is at exhibitions, and on the ground they shoot from a mechanical sight, right there in the package is a high-quality TPV.

Well, that is - it will allow:
- It is better to detect aircraft earlier.
- correctly calculate the moment of launch, when the rocket will have the opportunity to get it.
- work effectively at night.

About to destroy. Campaign now has some prohibition of work in the Turks. The intensity of strikes in Sarakib and on the outskirts in the last 2 days went almost to 0.

[ultra]

How long will we tolerate the Turkish undersultan?

[Nikolay Dyaglev]

I haven’t seen a single rocket (

[Grits]

And why is the place where the launches were still not plowed with bombs to bedrock? Waiting for our plane to crash?

[donavi49]

Because the Turks. Yesterday, Poddubny made a video that the Turks from their surrounded observation post burned a Syrian tank, which was trying to thwart a counterattack on the village. And they don’t have anything for it, or rather, the Syrians let a convoy of food and new anti-tank missiles go to them.

[bessmertniy]

The idea is to block Turkish posts - so that they sit there peacefully and do not shoot.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Gritsa

And why is the place where the launches were still not plowed with bombs to bedrock? Waiting for our plane to crash?

Was there a launch? Barmaley advertise themselves by posting videos with flying planes

[cniza]

hit MANPADS of American production, most likely handed over by the Turkish military to repel attacks by Russian and Syrian aircraft.

Why is it probably that secret ...

[musorg]

SU-34 can attack from high altitudes, than it gets MANPADS, why substitute?

[bober1982]

Quote: musorg

why substitute?

So no one is substituted. All these videos are about nothing.

[Titus]

I support ... the video is very high quality, the missiles themselves are not very visible the whole emphasis on the removal of traps and maneuvers of the aircraft. And judging by the ttmu that initially on the air pro I saw this news, it is more inclined to the version about the fake.

[bober1982]

Missiles also exist (probably), they just let them go nowhere.

[Mentat]

Quote: fighter angel

Turkey is not an ally of Russia.
Did not believe, minus

Minus you for trying to distort the real picture and are trying to do it now. None of the officials in Russia currently called Turkey an ally. You are a liar. For this, and get your well-deserved cons.

[501 Legion]

I feel soon from the Southern District will be sent to that side of the Pack, which will bomb all who break through there

[qaz]

And where are the attacks of these same MANPADS? Just heat traps shoot off and that’s it.

[Dmitry Pozhidaev]

Ours are the best. It overflows with pride and joy, a feeling of deepest respect and gratitude to our Russian Hero Warriors.
Thank you for cleansing these jackals in Syria, which would have been inapplicable later, if not for you, would have pinned to the Voronezh land

[Secretbrain]

I think you can soon wait for losses in the aircraft, if this continues. Once lucky, two, but no matter how much the string ... As they say, cook farts and bans on tomatoes.

[Adimius38]

But what about Shoigu's words that the war is over. The civil war in Syria is actually over, said Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu at a meeting with his Lebanese counterpart Yakub al-Sarraf at the Army-2017 International Military-Technical Forum

[Maks-80]

Carpet bombing closes Idlib’s question once and for all