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Indian General: AK-203 for India also includes technology transfer

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Major General J. Sandhu, representative of the Indian Ground Forces Command, spoke about some of the details of the contract for India’s acquisition of Russian AK-203 assault rifles.


In India, they plan to replace this small weapons their INSAS assault rifles, which have been deprecated and have problems with reliability. Indian troops have said INSAS often crashes when used in high altitude conditions, such as operations in the Himalayas. In addition, these assault rifles are “afraid” of dust storms.

Indian reporters asked if the AK-203 would be too expensive? At the moment, the price of one AK-203 assault rifle under the contract with India is about 1,1 thousand dollars.

Answering this and other questions, General J. Sandhu noted that the contract also includes the transfer of technology for the production of automatic machines at a factory in India. The company in the state of Uttar Pradesh plans to produce automatic weapons of 7,62x39 mm caliber under a Russian license. The plant was opened in the spring of 2019, and then at the opening was attended by Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

It is known that the Indian army will purchase 670 thousand AK-203 assault rifles, of which the bulk will be produced at the said enterprise in India. 100 thousand weapons will be delivered “finished” from Russia.
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  1. Thrifty
    Thrifty 24 February 2020 08: 23
    +3
    Technology is half the battle. But I'm interested in the quality, the quality of the finished machine, the quality of the metal that will be clearly Indian for him, the build quality! Will it not work out, as with the Romanian counterfact, only everything seems to be legalized here, only the main thing is that there is no qualitative result?
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 24 February 2020 08: 32
      +4
      If they needed quality, they would have ordered the whole batch of machines in Russia. And so it is clear that they do not care about the quality.
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 24 February 2020 08: 36
        +1
        So they also have a program analogous to our import substitution "Made in India"! It is bad to do, it is a disgrace to the whole world, and they simply do not know how to do without dancing to their fill, and do not want to!
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 24 February 2020 12: 17
          +6
          Quote: bessmertniy
          If they needed quality, they would have ordered the whole batch of machines in Russia. And so it is clear that they do not care about the quality.

          I do not agree.
          In weapons for the army, any state should first of all rely on its own production. So the desire of India to make automatic machines for themselves is absolutely true.
          The quality problems in India are really big. Kickbacks, corruption, "improvements" are the result both in materials and in assembly quality. Only after all, all this can be overcome only by doing something.
      2. V.I.P.
        V.I.P. 24 February 2020 08: 39
        +3
        They license our tanks, SU-30 planes, and make the Bramos rocket (yachont). Why do you think that an assault rifle will be difficult for them? ... .......... By the way, look at what the Russian Navy purchases from the Russian Navy for submarines !!! We can’t do this .. For me, this info was shocking, but they are proud of it ... And then some kind of machine ....
        1. Thrifty
          Thrifty 24 February 2020 08: 55
          0
          VIP - if everything is so good, why are there literally waves of complaints from the Indians about the quality of the equipment they COLLECT? And, the machine is not "some kind", but the best in the world!
          1. V.I.P.
            V.I.P. 24 February 2020 09: 04
            -7
            Complaints go to the MIG-29 (which recently fell again) and they do not. They don’t make engines for SU (complaints about them) .... They seemed to have complaints about the tanks for the lack of kondeas (they eliminated them, it seems) and the engines didn’t like how they work in the heat. So they like our ready-made engines were bought .. And most of all they are not satisfied with the after-sales service and delivery of the shoulders (wait a very long time) .. In addition, it seems to me that this is their way of bargaining for new orders. To drop the price ...
            1. Thrifty
              Thrifty 24 February 2020 09: 17
              +3
              VIP-so after-flight scheduled robots they have long been conducting themselves! And complaining about ourselves is generally nonsense! In addition, they are allowed a lot, so it was possible to put a condo on the tank six months after its purchase, manufacture and not make our brains for years! The blame for everything is that both hands are left, or it’s inconvenient to assemble a tank, while dancing in it, at the workplace. ..
              1. V.I.P.
                V.I.P. 24 February 2020 09: 35
                -3
                Well, scolding them and screaming, how everything is great with us, is absurd. How many civilian and military aircraft are falling in Russia and people are dying? See the statistics. How many space and military missiles are falling apart with us? Either the poor collector messed up the posting, or something else they’ll come up with. And what kind of hands do the assemblers, designers and technicians have in the Russian Federation this is an open question ...... The same Bramos they put up for sale. and there are countries that want to buy them from them
        2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 24 February 2020 09: 39
          +8
          Quote: V.I.P.
          They license our tanks, SU-30 planes, and make the Bramos rocket (yachont). Why do you think that the machine will be difficult for them?

          How to say? Tanks and planes work well for them, while they collect the parts and assemblies sent by us.
        3. _Ugene_
          _Ugene_ 24 February 2020 10: 26
          +3
          look what of the manufactured in India purchases the Russian Navy for submarines !!! We can’t do this
          link please?
          1. V.I.P.
            V.I.P. 24 February 2020 10: 39
            0
            Watch the video from the exhibition. Connect between two boats underwater at ranges of up to 6 km or miles (I don’t remember exactly) ...
            1. _Ugene_
              _Ugene_ 24 February 2020 17: 14
              +1
              did not find anything
            2. neri73-r
              neri73-r 24 February 2020 18: 29
              0
              Quote: V.I.P.
              Watch the video from the exhibition. Connect between two boats underwater at ranges of up to 6 km or miles (I don’t remember exactly) ...

              And ours bought from them ???
              1. gaudin
                gaudin 24 February 2020 22: 43
                0

                watch from 17:00, but it’s better to see everything.
              2. V.I.P.
                V.I.P. 25 February 2020 09: 45
                0
                Yes. And the Indians are very proud of it
        4. aws4
          aws4 24 February 2020 20: 47
          0
          which of the manufactured in India purchases the Russian Navy for submarines !!! You can read the link very interesting, I searched for it and didn’t find anything ((((
    2. loki565
      loki565 24 February 2020 09: 50
      +2
      The main thing is that India does not take first place among the worst producers of Kalash)))
      1. V.I.P.
        V.I.P. 24 February 2020 10: 42
        +1
        GDR did AK-praised them. Poles, Finns, Bulgarians, Israel (from the Finnish Valmet-Ak licensed). Nobody complained about these machines. Israel won a tender in Vietnam with a redesigned AK ... ....
        1. loki565
          loki565 24 February 2020 12: 34
          0
          Whoever did it under license or copied in compliance with all technologies, there have never been problems.
          1. Alexey Lobanov
            Alexey Lobanov 24 February 2020 17: 28
            0
            Are the Indians crazy? Their standard cartridges are 7,62x51, 5,56x45 and 9x19 (they still produce "Sten" :)). Moving to 7,62x39? A bunch of reliable Kalash under 223., even 308. Kalash, but they chose 7,62x39? Are we talking about corruption in Russia?
    3. EnGenius
      EnGenius 24 February 2020 10: 17
      +1
      Everything will depend on how much the Indians will simplify the control of materials at the entrance and during their processing and assembly, whether they will modify the units. In the end, many second-rate copies of Kalashnikovs turned into third-rate copies precisely because of the price competition for the markets of third countries, where the price is more important and for the market of small arms and decorative weapons, which fire a couple of dozen shots at the shooting range and even then rarely. It is likely, and weapons experts confirm this, that as they equip their own armed forces, the quality of late assault rifles in all countries declined. The same reserves of the Romanian Armed Forces in warehouses may contain quite decent copies, issued back in Soviet times, and the most substandard ones appeared in the 90s.
  2. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 24 February 2020 08: 26
    +1
    Hopefully, the quality control at the plant will be carried out by Russian specialists, otherwise the dancers will again succeed in insas.
  3. Mytholog
    Mytholog 24 February 2020 08: 34
    +1
    The huge accumulated experience will allow them to ditch these technologies in the shortest possible time too)
    1. Stalllker
      Stalllker 24 February 2020 09: 40
      +1
      Here's me in half that they are going to ruin. The main thing is that in my country, technologists would develop and hone, for the good of the motherland. From the fact that they "spoil" a machine gun, tank or aircraft developed in Russia, so they use it, not us. The whole world already knows that the weapons produced in Russia are one of the best in the world, and most importantly reliable
    2. Alexey Lobanov
      Alexey Lobanov 24 February 2020 17: 38
      0
      The British Empire ended in 1939 (most likely under Dunkirk, well, or maybe in the Battle of Britain). All thanks to four hundred millionth India. When the $ eighty millionth Germany kept the metropolis at bay, what did the Indians do? And it will always be so. Pakistan is the maximum that Indians can count on in terms of who to rock the boat ... Not warriors.
  4. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 24 February 2020 08: 43
    +1
    Why does everyone want from Russia lackeys?
    All bastards of the USSR helped to break up, and buns as from the USSR require.
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 24 February 2020 09: 41
      +2
      Quote: Yaro Polk
      Why does everyone want from Russia lackeys?

      Well, a machine for 1,1 thousand dollars - this is definitely not a freebie :))) Therefore, the general explains
    2. Stalllker
      Stalllker 24 February 2020 09: 41
      +1
      Good We !!!
  5. antivirus
    antivirus 24 February 2020 08: 46
    0
    another small spoon was knocked over into the bottomless barrel of Russia's power - in the defense industry. and the Indians threw her.
    50 years ago I saw many (in nature) without spoons and even more forks "on the meadow by the tablecloth with food"
  6. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 24 February 2020 09: 02
    0
    Indian military personnel have stated that INSAS is often malfunctioning when used in high altitude environments, such as when performing operations in the Himalayas. In addition, these assault rifles are "fearful" of dust storms.


    Who prevented the AK-74 from licensing? About 30 years ago. In general, it is the Indians who need a rifle, so that on one basis it would be possible to produce (without involving external specialists) in different calibres 7,62x39, 7,62x51 and some other (5,45 or 5,56). And what would the design digest.
    1. ssergey1978
      ssergey1978 24 February 2020 12: 06
      0
      Galil? not ?, but why 5.56 or m43 can be limited to just one thing. In principle, 7.62 NATO and 5.56 are the best combination.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 24 February 2020 13: 01
        0
        Who knows what caliber they use in India?
    2. Alexey Lobanov
      Alexey Lobanov 24 February 2020 17: 57
      0
      The Israelis specifically interfered. :) Rather, they helped famous Indian leaders to enrich themselves at the expense of the Indian treasury. :). And by the way, according to your scheme ("7,62x39, 7,62x51 and some other (5,45 or 5,56") "galil alpha" is very suitable (of course AK-alpha, just joking). Just in India the decisions are made by the same people who made INSAS.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 24 February 2020 18: 00
        0
        Galil is not bad ... Kalashnikov, too, took a fuss ..... and the scheme, just for the Indians with their different cartridges for all occasions ... 7,62x51 Kalashnikov introduced.
  7. Fedorov
    Fedorov 24 February 2020 09: 09
    0
    In Izhevsk, Russian women-women are assembled by hand, true masters are men. What will happen in India? With their caste method.
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  9. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 24 February 2020 09: 15
    -1
    The Indian Army 1,35 million people 0,63 million machine guns will not be enough. It would be necessary to increase the order.
    1. V.I.P.
      V.I.P. 24 February 2020 09: 40
      0
      They are now buying assault rifles from the Americans. Zig-Sauer of some kind of modification. Well, the truth is they will not build the plant. And they are going to arm some units with our machine gun, others are American. There are even divisions according to the regions (the state of Jammu and Kashmir and the mountains somehow. I don’t remember exactly) .. In addition, they also change the SVD to a western rifle
      1. Alexey Lobanov
        Alexey Lobanov 24 February 2020 18: 02
        0
        That is, the Americans - Zigi? They are not looking for easy ways ...
    2. Alexey Lobanov
      Alexey Lobanov 24 February 2020 18: 00
      0
      They have 500000 "Walls", already Mk3, do not worry.
  10. Sahalinets
    Sahalinets 24 February 2020 10: 18
    0
    But INSAS is built on the basis of AK. And they managed to make this superreliable system unreliable ...
  11. Alexey Lobanov
    Alexey Lobanov 24 February 2020 18: 06
    0
    Quote: Zaurbek
    Galil is not bad ... Kalashnikov, too, took a fuss ..... and the scheme, just for the Indians with their different cartridges for all occasions ... 7,62x51 Kalashnikov introduced.

    I’m in the know (ours can be remade at least 50. Browning Kalash), only oiled there long before IzhMasha.
  12. Alexey Lobanov
    Alexey Lobanov 24 February 2020 18: 08
    0
    Quote: Sahalinets
    But INSAS is built on the basis of AK. And they managed to make this superreliable system unreliable ...

    Great-great-granddaughter of Kalash :) AK-Valmet-Galil-INSAS
  13. Alexey Lobanov
    Alexey Lobanov 24 February 2020 18: 16
    0
    Quote: Zaurbek
    Galil is not bad ... Kalashnikov, too, took a fuss ..... and the scheme, just for the Indians with their different cartridges for all occasions ... 7,62x51 Kalashnikov introduced.

    Ours can be in 50. Kalash can do Browning, it is not in us but in Indians. Jews will outbid them anyway.
  14. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 24 February 2020 23: 34
    0
    Without good material, there will be a likeness of Chinese garbage.