Russians and Americans in Syria: does everyone have their own truth?


So, Mr. American Rudenko laid out his opinion and analysis of the situation with the shelling of an American convoy.


Many of our readers often ask a not-so-clever question about why we are "promoting the enemy’s channel." I answer in advance: we are not promoting it. We acquaint readers with the opinion “from the other side”. And here, sometimes Mr. Rudenko is very useful, because basically he says:

1) about things in which he clearly understands;
2) in Russian.

And some of the topics in its presentation are very useful to us precisely because they are stated by a stupid, but completely unfriendly person.

But this time, Mr. Rudenko clearly took up the wrong topic. He decided (perhaps not on his own initiative) to show the not very attractive role of Russian soldiers in stories with shelling of an American convoy.

Happened? Let's get a look.



What is the essence of history, everyone already knows. The story is more than strange and unsightly in relation to the American army glorified by its exploits. Here you can take shots from the reportage of any of our television channels, since the shots are almost the same for everyone. But Mr. Rudenko got some generally inaudible and do not understand who mounted video clip, on the basis of which he began to draw conclusions.



I agree that installation is a great thing. As you mount the plot, it will be so. And what really is - it does not bother anyone.

Well, something like that and Rudenko did.

"On the cards, on the fingers" (quote), he "explained how everything was."

To begin with, Mr. Rudenko kept silent about one VERY important detail. Namely, about what kind of devil the Americans generally found themselves in this god-forgotten village.

Well, yes, the batteries have run out, the navigator has turned off, and so on. Everything is familiar to the pain. But the fact is that the brave American warriors were (very softly speaking) where they were not welcome. Kurds. The Kurds have their own understanding of the situation in Syria, and 9 (nine) armored vehicles, which crouched in the village in broad daylight, were received somewhat without sympathy.

Just because they (the Americans) had no right to be there.

Rudenko is silent about this.

Naturally, he will remain silent about the fact that, as if in Syria, American soldiers are also in approximately the same position as their ancestors in Vietnam.

But very beautifully in his video Rudenko tells his version of what is happening. Like a column of American cars, rather mediocrely planted in the mud, the Russian military entered the rear.

And only then did “a group of civilians interspersed with armed people” appear.

This is the scheme that Rudenko realized:

Russians and Americans in Syria: does everyone have their own truth?

Greens - Americans, red - Russians, pink - civilians from among the local, orange - the same people, but with a rifle weapons.

In general, it turns out according to Rudenko that the Russian military went to the rear of the Americans stuck in the mud, realized a group of locals, covered it, and ...

And the shooting started.

According to the Ukrainian, the whole video that he cites as evidence can be spit on. Only three facts are interesting there.

A group of people fires from small arms at American vehicles, civilians and the Russian military appear in the frame.

Level 5.16. Rudenko verbosely explains that, since the dimensions on the equipment burn, and smoke comes from the exhaust pipes, the crews are inside. And they simply cannot leave the cars there, drown, dismount, and go to resolve the situation. They have no right to. They are sitting in technology! What a fight on the street, there are as many as two civilians from AK pounding their armor with bullets ...


Rudenko further admits that a provocation was created, for there was fire from small arms and a “human shield” from civilians.

In fact, the provocation began a little earlier, when the Americans pushed into this village.

But further our analyst says a very interesting thing: that no one was dismayed (for they are shooting), but it would be possible to deploy towers and crush everyone with heavy machine guns.

Luxurious, right? Especially the comparison of this "human shield", which does not cover anything in the video, but presses against the walls, and the Nazis during the Second World War. Handsome man!


Unfortunately Rudenko, no one can crumble, because there is no team.

In general, the Ukro-American (not very tolerant, right?) Is magnificent. In one video, they didn’t give a damn about everyone, both Russian military personnel and Syrian civilians (this is about a “human shield” and comparison with the Nazis), and there was enough poison for the whole Caucasus.

Of course, in any village in Chechnya or Dagestan, you can easily come and recruit mercenaries like that! Anywhere in the world. Leaving, most likely, will be more difficult, but this is an aspect.

So the passage on the theme that the militants fired on American equipment “does not even know who” ... Eh, Mr. Rudenko ... You haven’t ever seen fat, this is Kurdish territory, as it were ... And ANY who appeared there with weapons will attract such attention and such a reaction ... Now, the Americans have appeared ...

The main negative in the execution of Rudenko is an ugly distortion of facts. That at first a convoy of Russian equipment arrived, and then civilians gathered. Even from the video he cited, it is clear that the opposite.

So, poor thing, the commander of the American unit was in a terrible situation. Some of the cars stupidly stuck in the mud, the convoy cannot move. To release the technique does not give the force of reaction in the person of TWO civilians with machine guns. They cannot be beaten by civilians, who allegedly cannot be shot. Well, the Russians still ...

“Allegedly” - because they still shot and hit. True, not in an action movie with a gun, but in a 14-year-old boy with a brick. But it’s not so scary to shoot an American fighter for world peace.

Rudenko cries that the Russians and the Kurds are clearly at the same time. Sorry, this is who studied what. Who came there for what? I will not add anything else, the choice in terms of sympathy is precisely for the Kurds, because it is their land. And what they will trust the flag.

A column of Americans, you know, did not fire at anyone. An interesting detail, but is it worth it to prostrate itself and give praise to the Americans?

Allegedly, the Americans had the right to be in this zone. In fact, it’s hard to say, since they themselves admitted that they were fornication like do not understand who.

But the coolest question performed by Rudenko is “And who were these lads with machine guns?” Yes, I agree with Rudenko, the question is smelly. But it was Rudenko who asked him, it was he who announced that "there is something wrong with this couple of machine gunners."

It’s somehow strange that they were between Russian cars and civilians ... It’s somehow strange that they did not go out of the blue and did not give the Americans the opportunity to shoot themselves. Very suspicious guys, I agree.

And then the main claim of the day: Russian cars did NOT leave the line of fire and did NOT give the Americans the opportunity to shoot heavy machine guns at two militants and hundreds of civilians.

Ah, what a pity, right?

But let's look at the world with a sober look. Not from the point of view of some kind of international law, to which Rudenko refers. He refers to what has long been crushed by American wheels in Vietnam, Panama, Yugoslavia, Iraq and hundreds of other places.

ANY of the militants (yes, let them be called that) among Syrian citizens have more rights to stagger around their city with an assault rifle than an American soldier whom no one called there.

Who is located in the territory of another country without coordination with the authorities of this country? That's right, Mr. Rudenko, this is the occupier. No different from the Nazis mentioned by Mr. Rudenko.


And so Mr. Rudenko makes claims to the Russian military police that they were supposed to stop the illegal actions of the Syrians.

And here is a very interesting moment in which Mr. Rudenko did not even sit in a puddle. Into the mud.

Russian military police, legally in Syria, SHOULD were nipped illegal actions by Syrian armed civilians regarding ILLEGAL US military located in the area.

Wow the tips we have ... They have ... Generally!

For a very long time I tried to dig at least some kind of law that allows an American soldier to be in any country in the world and prohibits the dissenting citizen of this country from shooting this American soldier.

Such a law, according to Rudenko, is. Congressional Decision.

Delusional, but, according to this decision, military police from Russia had to rush to the shooting Syrians and begin to defend the Americans, who cowardly sat out in cars.

What, excuse me, do we care about the decisions of the US Congress?

Even the Americans themselves have a wonderful proverb about how much the sheriff should care about the problems of the Indians. It’s about the same here. And Rudenko’s claims are completely incomprehensible to me. Why is it that our military is obliged to bail out American "colleagues"?

Okay, they helped out. What really

Kohl they Americans are ...

And I have a counter-question: why gentlemen, American soldiers, sitting in their armored vehicles, under a hail of bullets from two AKs, did not bother to just take and take a few warning shots into the air?

It is so simple not to wait until the militants run out of ammunition, or when the Russian military intervenes. Just shoot several times in the air. To show that American soldiers are not going to play the role of too patient rabbits in the trap.

However, for some reason they did not. And they preferred that someone else (the Russian military) still do the dirty work for them.

It happened, but instead of gratitude, once again we received a bunch of reproaches for all sins.

And in the end, Rudenko generally suffered. He attributed the "fighters" Russian citizenship. This, of course, is nonsense in the head of a former citizen of Ukraine, many people still see “polite people” under their beds at night, such a peculiar “Crimean syndrome”.

An interesting version, such a funny fantasy. But this opinion, which I want not just to discuss, is to be sent more along some route.

However, this is indeed an opinion on the other hand, and which enjoys some support and understanding, it is enough to look at the quantity and quality of ratings.

Why do we need it?

Then, to know two points of view. Our official state propaganda and what is shown on the other side, on the other side of the information front line, if you want.
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  1. Finches 20 February 2020 05: 59 New
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    The official propaganda of the state has nothing to do with the truth - it is a tool for resolving political issues! Therefore, the niche of "truth" was filled with all kinds of experts with diplomas of incomplete higher education in absolutely all areas of human activity! What is in Russia, what is in the USA laughing
    1. bessmertniy 20 February 2020 06: 12 New
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      Too muddy this Rudenko with his calculations. It is clear that his task is to whitewash the American presence in Syria. But the legitimate authority of the Americans did not invite Syria. negative
      1. Stas157 20 February 2020 06: 25 New
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        In light of the fact that the Americans allow themselves to ram our armored vehicles, now certainly there is no need to wait for any help to American warriors.
        1. maidan.izrailovich 20 February 2020 06: 52 New
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          In light of the fact that the Americans allow themselves to ram our armored cars ....

          .... maybe we should transfer our guys to boomerangs. There, the mass is normal (for a ram) and the speed corresponds to the challenges.
          A great occasion to finally adopt. Well, or send an experimental batch to Syria for testing.
        2. Evil543 20 February 2020 07: 53 New
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          It was not necessary for our to withdraw them from this settlement, Americans do not remember the good
      2. Snail N9 20 February 2020 06: 47 New
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        Honestly .... I didn’t even understand what the article was about .... sad
      3. Mathafaka 20 February 2020 07: 19 New
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        What is the legitimate authority?
        Bashar al-Assad "inherited" the country from his father.
        The Alawites are a militaristic minority in Syria that came to power after a coup d'etat. The Alawites are a military junta, and законно Assad could not become president. The Sunni majority has always been opposed.
        1. neri73-r 20 February 2020 09: 58 New
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          Quote: Mathafaka
          What is the legitimate authority?
          Bashar al-Assad "inherited" the country from his father.
          The Alawites are a militaristic minority in Syria that came to power after a coup d'etat. The Alawites are a military junta, and законно Assad could not become president. The Sunni majority has always been opposed.

          And why is this your Sunni majority fighting for Assad or is neutral?
      4. NEOZ 20 February 2020 12: 00 New
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        Quote: bessmertniy
        But the legitimate authority of the Americans did not invite Syria.

        to this, Rudnyka has the following video, where he compares the United States in Syria and the Russian Federation in the Ministry of Natural Resources / South Ossetia / RA / LDNR / ....
    2. DEDPIHTO 20 February 2020 06: 24 New
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      hi True, only the people of Syria are there, all the other participants in the hostilities decide only their own geopolitical, ambitious and mercantile interests. The truth is that the people of Syria are no better off this ..
      1. Lexus 20 February 2020 07: 20 New
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        Alex, welcome! hi Previously, they competed in a tug of war, but now its bourgeoisie has changed to a pipeline. If they crawl through your house, do not expect good.
        1. DEDPIHTO 20 February 2020 07: 48 New
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          Hello namesake! hi Great comparison! good
    3. Sergey Averchenkov 20 February 2020 07: 14 New
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      If you think so, you can always betray your state. It's simple - you have already started to do it. "Motherland is calling!" not propaganda?
  2. sagitch 20 February 2020 05: 59 New
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    Terrorists complain ?! Occupants face trial ?!
    Small, however.
  3. Mytholog 20 February 2020 06: 12 New
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    The Americans have long made it a rule the principle "whoever shouts louder and bolder is right." Oddly enough, in almost always - it works.
  4. rotmistr60 20 February 2020 06: 14 New
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    I agree with the author that of course you need to listen to the version of the opposite side, even initially assuming that it will be the opposite and interspersed with the guilt of Russian high-class people. But I didn’t understand why on our part
    Our official state propaganda
    , and with the opposite a sort of neutral
    what is shown on the other side, on the other side of the information front line
    Or in the United States there is no state propaganda?
  5. DMB 75 20 February 2020 06: 26 New
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    Who is located in the territory of another country without coordination with the authorities of this country? That's right, Mr. Rudenko, this is the occupier.

    That's all, actually ... The rest is from the evil one ..
  6. maidan.izrailovich 20 February 2020 06: 46 New
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    If the Yankees are unhappy with something, then let the local Syrian prosecutor file a complaint. crying
  7. Lamata 20 February 2020 06: 54 New
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    So Rudenko same dill, and even studied in Odessa.
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    1. Lamata 20 February 2020 07: 19 New
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      Well, I am a citizen of the Russian Federation, right now I live in Kazakhstan, and I don’t think Kazakhs as chocks. This collage is exclusively your imagination. Among the Russian feces is also enough, excite at least the State Duma.
    2. Jarserge 20 February 2020 08: 35 New
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      Is this the graphic opinion of the author of the publication?
      1. Lamata 20 February 2020 09: 11 New
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        This is a national troll, and even a minuser.
        1. vadsonen 20 February 2020 16: 03 New
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          This Satire is a work of the Russian artist Vasya Lozhkin.
  9. Vasily Ponomarev 20 February 2020 07: 15 New
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    not only did the Russians hide behind people's backs, they also recorded everything on cameras,
  10. rocket757 20 February 2020 07: 15 New
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    Quote: DMB 75
    Who is located in the territory of another country without coordination with the authorities of this country? That's right, Mr. Rudenko, this is the occupier.

    That's all, actually ... The rest is from the evil one ..

    There is nothing to discuss further. Striped, in the end, get drunk themselves.
  11. Vasily Ponomarev 20 February 2020 07: 37 New
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    Quote: Lamata
    Well, I am a citizen of the Russian Federation, right now I live in Kazakhstan, and I don’t think Kazakhs as chocks. This collage is exclusively your imagination. Among the Russian feces is also enough, excite at least the State Duma.

    if you don’t know, I didn’t draw it, firstly, and secondly, I didn’t call Ukrainians dill, but you are a great Russian respected and respected all over the world
  12. Cruorvult 20 February 2020 07: 50 New
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    In this matter, unexpectedly, I support Roman. Rudenko has long been known as a noble balabol and rat, and from the obser created another appeal, like Poroshenko from Debaltseve.
    1. NEOZ 20 February 2020 12: 07 New
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      Quote: CruorVult
      Rudenko has long been known as a noble balabol and rat and

      YES, but Roman claims that rudenko is useful !!!
      I believe that the Rudenko channel does not carry any useful information and publicize it to ourselves (to us) to the detriment ...
      I even have a warning from the site administrator for the thesis "why PR enemies?"
  13. Vasily Ponomarev 20 February 2020 08: 03 New
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    Quote: CruorVult
    In this matter, unexpectedly, I support Roman. Rudenko has long been known as a noble balabol and rat, and from the obser created another appeal, like Poroshenko from Debaltseve.

    you are who it is to call him a rat, Rosgvardeets or something, you can scare you with a glass, so you wouldn’t call people a rat
    1. Cruorvult 20 February 2020 08: 11 New
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      Ololo, "who are you." The rat was called the rat, what's going on, the rat he and the snitch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pATkV06QtLA&t=3s
  14. Vasily Ponomarev 20 February 2020 08: 20 New
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    Quote: CruorVult
    Ololo, "who are you." The rat was called the rat, what's going on, the rat he and the snitch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pATkV06QtLA&t=3s

    they blaspheme this idiot, he shit to America and lives there himself and is not going to leave anywhere, if you watched the video you saw that he didn’t bring any facts to his livelihood, this is how the video with facts looks
    1. Cruorvult 20 February 2020 08: 28 New
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      Rofl, "everybody blasphemes him," who are these all? 21 thousand pluses, 1 - minuses. You have your own money-giver there, here is the first comment.

      Denis Ivanov
      A year ago
      I subscribe to everything that Alex said. I'm 83 years old. He arrived in the States in 1999 with his parents from Sochi. In 2001 he joined the American army for a 3-year contract. BOTTLE MOTORWAYS Stryker Brigade fort Lewis. Private salary then was $ 700 per month. After 2 years in 2003, I rose to E4 (specialist), the salary was $ 1400 per month. In the fall of 2003, we were sent to carry democracy to Iraq for a year, well, my contract for me extended the US government for another 8 months without asking me. The co-workers are all devils, there is no friendship, almost no mutual mutuality. Nobody is waiting for these amer soldiers at home, nobody needs them. Glory to God I returned safe and sound, demobilized. in 2006 went to Russia and realized that my golden years from 18 to 22 years passed in a point .... There are no girls, no friends. Lazha ... in 2008 he returned to Sochi forever. I have a normal Russian wife, without American porridge in my head, two apartments. I remember the USA as a nightmare ...

      hold your pocket wider.
      1. Deck 20 February 2020 09: 26 New
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        . I have a normal Russian wife, without American porridge in the head, two apartments.


        I would serve four years in our army - there would be three apartments! laughing
    2. NEOZ 20 February 2020 12: 14 New
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      Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
      he shit on America and lives there himself and is not going to leave anywhere, if you watched the video you saw that he had no facts

      freedom of speech is freedom of speech ...
      but the fact that Rudenko wrote on Alex denunciation is a fact! Yes, Rudenko is so stupid that he himself admitted that he wrote a denunciation on him .... forgetting about freedom of speech in the United States ....
  15. SanSanych Gusev 20 February 2020 08: 25 New
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    I wanted something
  16. Jarserge 20 February 2020 08: 34 New
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    Everyone has their own truth, but the truth is one. The Americans, as always, appeared because of their "national interests" and arrogance to rob and the opinions of all the others are not of interest to them. I think the Russians also have their own economic interest, finally, only in contrast to the Americans they have an agreement with a legitimate government.
  17. Oleg Zatsepin 20 February 2020 10: 00 New
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    WorldDoor Your ball is crest. Everything is upside down. Crimea slipped, anointed the Nazis. Whooper rotten.
    1. NEOZ 20 February 2020 12: 15 New
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      Quote: Oleg Zatsepin
      WorldDoor Your ball is crest. Everything is upside down. Crimea slipped, anointed the Nazis. Whooper rotten.

      those. you agree with the thesis that why not promote the propaganda channel?
  18. Ros 56 20 February 2020 10: 09 New
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    What truth can stripes have? These gopniks from the gateway have no truth and can not be, because now they are robbers and bandits and thieves and murderers. We climbed into a strange house and robbed impudently, and they killed the owners.
    1. iouris 20 February 2020 12: 58 New
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      Quote: Ros 56
      What truth can stripes have?

      Especially during the "world information war." Even during a normal war, they lie a lot, more than after fishing.
  19. iouris 20 February 2020 12: 26 New
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    Here they are, "Russian hackers."
  20. Vasily Ponomarev 20 February 2020 12: 41 New
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    Quote: NEOZ
    Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
    he shit on America and lives there himself and is not going to leave anywhere, if you watched the video you saw that he had no facts

    freedom of speech is freedom of speech ...
    but the fact that Rudenko wrote on Alex denunciation is a fact! Yes, Rudenko is so stupid that he himself admitted that he wrote a denunciation on him .... forgetting about freedom of speech in the United States ....

    how does a denunciation challenge the freedom of speech, for example, could you write a denunciation on whose name it is impossible to pronounce and what would become of you later?
  21. NEOZ 20 February 2020 12: 43 New
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    Many of our readers often ask a not-so-clever question about why we are "promoting the enemy’s channel." I answer in advance: we are not promoting it. We acquaint readers with the opinion “from the other side”. And here, sometimes Mr. Rudenko is very useful, because basically he says:
    1) about things in which he clearly understands;
    2) in Russian.
    And some of the topics in its presentation are very useful to us precisely because they are stated by a stupid, but completely unfriendly person.

    1. PR, PR ... how!
    2. The reader can familiarize himself with the opinion "from that side".
    3. Rudenko thinks (judging by his words) only in helicopters, in other matters he thinks no more, or even less than ours !!!
    4. What topics are VERY useful to us? ....
    ps
    after watching 90% of the video, I didn’t see any useful information that cannot be found in two clicks .. but I saw anti-Russian propaganda in almost every video.
    also, do not forget why this channel exists: FOR RECRUITING RUSSIAN-SPEAKERS TO THE US ARMY.
    total:
    useful information is missing, anti-Russian propaganda is absorbed (like advertising on TV), the channel is propiar.
  22. alekszeit 21 February 2020 11: 06 New
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    how they didn’t shoot. But how did they kill the kid? And then there is a video from the Tiger.
  23. kig
    kig 24 February 2020 03: 06 New
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    The article is interesting in that none of the opponents observed the subject of the dispute with their own eyes.