Non-combat loss: CAA tank fell from the bridge in Idlib with the crew

Syria receives reports of a non-combat incident with a tank Syrian government forces. Several photos have been published on the network where you can see the CAA tank lying under the bridge.

The captions to the photographs indicate that the tank, along with the crew, fell off a bridge in the countryside of Idlib province. The bridge is located on one of the sections of the M5 road, which this week came under the control of the Syrian government forces. Now for certain sections of the M5 there are heavy battles between the SAA and representatives of terrorist groups.

According to unconfirmed reports, the fall of the CAA tank from the bridge occurred due to a crew error. It can be seen that the tank rammed the fence and collapsed from a height of about 5 meters.

The accident with the CAA tank occurred in the area of ​​the village of Khan al-Sabil.

It is noteworthy that these photos have already managed to fly around the Turkish segment of social networks. Turkish users jerk about what happened, claiming that "Russian weapon doesn't help Assad’s forces. "A few comments:

Assad loses tanks out of the blue. Non-combat loss

Who controlled this machine that managed to send the tank under the bridge?

At the moment, there is no information about the fate of the tankers. As there is no confirmation that the tank fell due to inept actions of the crew, and not with "outside help".

Comments

[Livonetc]

Turkish commentators would be better to ask who died in the Turkish column burned.

[Chassis]

Quote: Livonetc

Turkish commentators would be better to ask who died in the Turkish column burned.

I agree that as for the losses of the Syrian army and Russia, they savor it in the "world media" for a long time with detailed photos and videos ..
And our journalists are being blocked with their photo reports .. Why so?

[voyaka uh]

It happens.
Merkava fell down a road in Lebanon.
Twice the Abrams fell (or failed) from the bridges when the Americans rushed to Baghdad in 2003.

[Lord of the Sith]

What is far to go. In the Donbass, Ukrainian tanks and the DPR and LPR fell.

[kjhg]

Alexei, what are your thoughts on the further development of the situation in Idlib?

[Oquzyurd]

The Turkish defense minister at NATO said that they would either kill or arrest the Idlib radicals. Erdogan also warned the Idlib radicals. That is, there are hints that Moscow (the Turkish delegation will arrive in Moscow very soon) will agree on something. My forecasts are that the M -5 will remain with the Syrians, but joint patrols will control the honey agarics. Heavy weapons will leave the road as far as possible. (Left and right). The Syrians will not be given the m-4 road. So far, and you will have to no longer fight, but develop a plan to remove the radicals, leave the opposition, continue the work of the constitutional council.

[kjhg]

God grant that we agree. A direct military clash can be beneficial to anyone except Russia and Turkey.

[vladcub]

I have already said that now the main word will be with the department of Lavrov. If the Sultan didn’t get in there, the Barmalei would have wetted everything, and now diplomats work and work

[Oquzyurd]

"the barmaley would be soaked all the cases" They should be watered, but 4 million refugees in Turkey, and 3-4 million at the gates of Turkey have already got the Turks. This is a huge problem.

[voyaka uh]

Everything is in the hands of the Turks. They have trump cards in this situation.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: voyaka uh

Everything is in the hands of the Turks. They have trump cards in this situation.

No, Alexei, not all of their trump cards. If only Turkomans lived in Idlib, then Erdogan, under the guise of protecting relatives, would be easier to advance his interests. But in Idlib on green buses gathered the whole rabble, for which Erdogan is not an authority. Formally, the SAA and the Russian Aerospace Forces are struggling with barmales, and in fact, Assad is recapturing its territory to the border with Turkey. Erdogan is furious that he cannot solve the problem.

[Well done]

The photo shows traces of burning, grass, a little tower. Why? What about the crew? In my not competent opinion - to patch up and into battle. The article is not informative. And let the Ottomans giggle. Ours will also show them - "Tagiiel !!!" ... (without weapons and in the Ottoman territory))

[Romka47]

I didn’t see burning grass, especially on the tower, but this can be explained by the fact that earlier something flew in.

[Romka47]

Twice the Abrams fell (or failed) from the bridges when the Americans rushed to Baghdad in 2003.
God forbid, this is the first death of the entire abrams crew.
In addition, in my opinion, you wrote that the army in the Israeli army managed to turn the hammer over on level ground, with its stability. And there is absolutely nothing extraordinary here, well, it happens, why relish it. Here the Estonian army has never dropped or turned a tank from a bridge, it is only because they do not have one.

[Prisoner]

The mechanic commanded the key or the technique was capricious. Anything can be. War. And the equipment plows for wear and people by itself.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Captive

The mechanic commanded the key or the technique was capricious. Anything can be.

Fell so fallen, what a problem, raise. My neighbor also fell from the bridge that week and broke his arm, with whom it does not happen.

[Lamata]

Turkey has its own warriors and strategists. Or beach ones.

[impostor]

Turkey has its own warriors and strategists. Or beach

Or hotel. They will hang stars as generalissimo, but in fact they didn’t reach the ensign.

[Lamata]

Something I did not think about the hotel, I was not in Turkey, I do not own the situation.

[Alex 2020]

In our unit, the 1B119 “Reostat” crashed from the bridge, though it flew from the bend onto the bridge, it suffered on the asphalt and ... that's all) The bruises also beat the optics. The crew received various pleasures from the battalion commander and further on the list.

[impostor]

Fell from the bridge, and Turkish ATGM went into a stack on a nearby field. There are no reports of sanitary and irrevocable. Amov in 2006 in Iraq abrams left the bridge - four corpses near the tank supplemented the morning landscape.

[Cowbra]

This is in the water, chtol? Well, there in battle, and they beat up the optics, he lost his nerve

[impostor]

This is in the water, chtol?

And how do you like? Abrams is a storm ship in a glass, that is, a desert. Consequently, the BJK later sleeves belonged. As regards the conditions of the loss, it is also unclear on the CAA tank

[Jose]

That the Russian brothers rejoiced when Erdogan killed the Kurds and helped the Turks. And the Kurds are fighting for their territory

[impostor]

In fact, from childhood they shouted - Freedom to жcalan! But something of the Kurds then pulled on the mattress. What, threw it? Life is bad without sucker

[orionvitt]

Quote: Jose

What the Russian brothers rejoiced

Uncle Sam is your brother.

[Cowbra]

Quote: orionvitt

Uncle Sam to you brother.

Well, by the degree of stupidity that the Kurds soaked - it was their uncle's brother. As well as the mother and other parts of the body

[Jose]

Not without your participation they urinate. Can you please offer Erdogan something else s-400, tourist flow, NPP is not enough for him

[Cowbra]

But they didn’t ask you how you sat in the opera house of Cevrope, so you sit)))

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Jose

Not without your participation they urinate. Can you please offer Erdogan something else s-400, tourist flow, NPP is not enough for him

Erdogan is not Turkey. Erdogan will leave, and all that you have listed will remain.

[Romka47]

Firstly, there were more rejoicing when the Kurds planted MANPADS in the cobra, secondly, as a child, I read in a book that the Anglo-Saxons of the Kurds use the whole history as meat promising territories, and I always throw, 30 years have passed now I see the same thing in the monitor online the most, and you were guilty of the Russians, and they will be, but there was no territory and never will be. And countries such as Serbia Armenia Georgia, Romania, Bulgaria once asked for the help of Russians and voila country-language-currency. You can throw bile further, only from this the state will not be formed, think about it.

[Sky strike fighter]

What does the combat map look like at the moment?

[Blanket]

"Colonel Kassad" has cards on the love magazine https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com

[Pacifist with AK]

The smell of burnt "Leopards" has already disappeared from the violent Ottoman heads?

[beeper]

The Kurds are somehow more pleasant to hear, more understandable, fervent and more fun than the Arabs, shouting at the successful launch of their ATGMs.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: pishchak

The Kurds are somehow more pleasant to hear, more understandable, fervent and more fun than the Arabs, shouting at the successful launch of their ATGMs.

like one overs -bab)) !!

[beeper]

Well yes! But what a gamble and so incendiary loudly rejoices (without these offscreen hysterical lamentations of some Arab fellahs, mournful falsetto "yearning" for each missile fired ... as if they, for a mistake, would be "deprived" of their masculinity ?!)!

[Romka47]

Because they know how to fight, and they don’t do it with joy from one tank

[salad]

Easily yours, I drove a BAT-M, and so, no, no, and I was eating a friction clutch, and the car abruptly goes to the side and you won’t drive out, only a complete stop saved the situation. Regulated constantly, there was no sense

[impostor]

Regulated constantly, there was no sense

In general, the BAT - to weigh, when civilian communal services are suspended on the axes - saves from the snow, so

[Yaro Polk]

Although the bridge is not high, I think there are all the rules with the crew., There can be fractures, all the same, there is little pleasant tumbling in the piece of iron.

[beeper]

Quote: Yaro Polk

Although the bridge is not high, I think there are all the rules with the crew., There can be fractures, all the same, there is little pleasant tumbling in the piece of iron.

I think the crew got it hard. On the concrete slabs, fresh tracks from the caterpillars are visible and, from the edge on the ground, a distinct trace of the right caterpillar slipping, since apparently the driver was backing up at speed, probably aiming to "scuttle" (from an imaginary or real danger) into the hollow between the overpasses, but a little "did not fit in" - tangentially filled the bridge fence completely (that's why it lies, not crumpled at all, just fell down, did not fly far) and, trying to straighten, in stress "mirror-like" confused which to pull the PMP levers (planetary turning mechanism on "fifty-five") - as a result, it slipped off the bridge by the right caterpillar that slowed down (in the "first position" of the PMP lever) (the trace of its sliding sideways is clear, almost not "smeared") ?!
Due to the inertia of the backward movement, the "T-55" still hit the top of the wall of the water conduit and, crumbling, sliding its tracks along the concrete bevel, with a coup over the starboard side, fell down with a tower ?!
That is why it is "lying under the bridge" so strangely, with a "tenderly lying down" gun under the bridge "at 30-00", and under the concrete wall of the water conduit a fresh hole from a caterpillar that has racked the ground ?! IMHO

I can't see on my screen if the driver's hatch is open ?! And the bottom "heroes' hatch" is not a priori visible from these photo angles.
But since there are no traces of human commotion around the "fallen" car and the characteristic scraps of urgent therapy, we will simply, for good luck, hope that all the Syrian crew members remained alive and got out on their own, albeit with bruises and fractures (inside There are a lot of things about the tank, which can be injured even without turning over and falling from a height, although, judging by the photo, the gun was clearly fixed in a marching manner, and the tower stood on a stopper from turning), but we avoided deplorable fractures of the spine and severe injuries to the skull ?!
With a similar fall, up the tracks, into the deep water from the bridge, everything could end unambiguously fatal for the crew.
Such incidents with tank overturning happen not only in war, but also in everyday tank life!

[Svarog51]

Greetings Extremely unpleasant event. But what happened is what happened. Here it is very interesting to see how the BREM will work, because they will not leave it there. As I understand it, the most difficult during the evacuation will be to put it in a normal position. The water conduit greatly interferes with this. The work of the tankers is still shown one way or another, but the work of related services is somehow bypassed.

[beeper]

This is a "classic of the genre (almost like in the textbook ) "for BREM. Evacuation measures are a little hindered only by a red metal pipe (probably not working in wartime and, in any case, the military will not stand on ceremony with it).
The congress and approaches for ARVs are very suitable, it can be much worse!
Before putting this emergency tank "on its feet", I would unlock the PMP levers from the inside to the "starting position", unlock the turret and dismantle the gun mount in a stowed position (if it was placed on it), so as not to further damage the guidance mechanisms (although they are structurally provided for "delivery links", friction type, for such cases of tank life ) and the barrel of the gun during the coup through the tower.
Polyspast ARV, of course, would have to be involved.
And with the help of other tanks of the unit (if necessary and in the absence of an ARV), this "T-55" could also be evacuated.

[Svarog51]

How many different video materials I reviewed, but I saw the description of the evacuation in detail only once, and then in the form of graphics. There they showed how the forces of the unit pulled out the "Thirty-four" that had fallen from the bridge. In this case, it is unlikely that military reporters will be allowed into the area of ​​hostilities, and the tankers themselves will not have time for filming there. To put the camera in the place from which the picture with the pipe was taken, it would have turned out both a reportage and an educational film. But alas ...

[beeper]

Find in an ordinary library or on the Web an old, it seems 50s, book "Tanks" or a manual for the evacuation and repair of armored vehicles, and there it will be for you, with pictures, how to cling, how, in stages, to overturn overturned tanks, how to arrange tractor vehicles and pulley ...
I remember library textbooks with pictures on the example of the pre-war T-26! There is a lot to evacuate tanks-look and find out!

[Svarog51]

We need to see, like I have one. In principle, in the same way they pull out tanks of the Great Patriotic War from rivers and swamps.

[Romka47]

You said so, I just looked at the video, both from above and from inside the tank) ++

[beeper]

Well, with the "T-55" I studied tank science, its material part to the point of talk, to automatism (I know for the solution of which technical problem was promised, unofficially back in the Soviet Union, the Order of the Red Star, to any tanker or designer who would have solved it, but as far as I know, that problem has never been resolved ... ), drove him, fired from him. This is the same as the first love (that is, this is my "first love-T-55" and is!)!
I already began to forget the head, but if I got inside the "fifty-five", then I'm sure the body and hands would all remember and work "automatically" - this is real tank soldier, simple, reliable, kind to the crew and deadly to enemies!

[orionvitt]

stating that "Russian weapons are not helping Assad's forces"

Judging by the photo, this is a T-55. So "this Russian weapon", at best, is already 60 years old, or even more. But anyway, it's not about the weapon, but about who uses it. Anything can happen.

[Lamata]

Of course the photo of the overturned tank is so-so, but what about the kind of groomed it, the tower is some kind of ragged, or camouflage?

[impostor]

kind of groomed him, the tower is somehow ragged

Not a representative Humvee, the point is not afraid of dirt.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Lamata

Of course the photo of the overturned tank is so-so, but what about the kind of groomed it, the tower is some kind of ragged, or camouflage?

So it’s not in the parade, but in battle.

[Pacifist with AK]

Quote: Jose

That the Russian brothers rejoiced when Erdogan killed the Kurds and helped the Turks. And the Kurds are fighting for their territory

Oh, Jose, something you’re getting dark .... The names of Julio ali Pedro are more popular among you Gishpans ...

[Pacifist with AK]

Jose, offended? Yes, no, I'm kind)))))

[Pacifist with AK]

Quote: voyaka uh

Everything is in the hands of the Turks. They have trump cards in this situation.

It could even be. But, Untersultan brewed such pilaf that it is extremely problematic to predict the outcome: there are too many input variables. No matter how Tayyip burn his tongue ...

[impostor]

No matter how Tayyip burn his tongue ...

East is a delicate matter. Let's see, a bad world is better than a good war ...

[Kunica]

The result of a protracted war. Inexperienced crews, a heavy load on personnel and equipment. And who knows what happened there. Maybe there was a choice between cumulative on board and a fall? Then the guys correctly oriented

[no better place for]

I am in the Turkish segment. I only found out the news here. Apparently the author was looking for a specialist))

[kiril1246]

The tank is a huge car with very poor visibility. Although I am Israeli, but there is no joy or gloating, the guys of the tankers are sorry. It can happen to anyone, in any country, in any army.

[Sardanapalus]

Once in Iraq during the second war, "Abrams", in battle, fell from a bridge into the river. The driver was killed and the entire crew was killed. On the bridge, the tanks are not camouflaged. If you don't fall down, the bridge under you will fail.

[Romanenko]

Or maybe they just threw it away, the old T-55 tank apparently

[Xomaik]

Hike there as drivers with me Barelina