The Ministry of Defense ordered the development of an updated version of the Altius-U drone

Ministry of Defense and the Ural Civil Plant aviation (UZGA) signed a contract to create a new version of the reconnaissance and strike drone Altius. This was announced by Deputy Defense Minister Alexei Krivoruchko.

In December last year, we concluded a state contract for the development of Altius-RU R&D on the creation of a reconnaissance-strike complex with a new generation long-range unmanned aerial vehicle equipped with a satellite communications system and artificial intelligence elements capable of interacting with manned aircraft

- told the deputy head of the military department.

Mid January news RIA Novosti news agency, citing its source in the defense industry complex, said that the UGA has completed the testing of a prototype of the promising unmanned aerial vehicle Altius-U. The tests were carried out by a device equipped with a satellite channel for data exchange and control. The first flight of an unmanned vehicle in the Altius-U version took place in August last year.

Altius-U is the final appearance of a drone created as a result of the development and testing of a number of prototypes within the Altair project. The latest unmanned system is capable of performing the entire spectrum of reconnaissance missions using optical, radio engineering and radar means and is in the air for more than a day.

UAV Altius has a wingspan of 28,5 m, a length of 11,6 m, and take-off weight of 6 tons. The flight altitude is 12 thousand meters, the flight range is up to 10 thousand km. In this case, the UAV can be in the air for up to 48 hours. The installed equipment allows reconnaissance at a great distance. The drone can also be controlled via satellite, which makes its range almost unlimited.

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[Thrifty]

Rudolph -It seems that there is simply no drone, and the whole country is brazenly led by the nose!

[Invoce]

Quote from rudolf

I’ve rolled my lip, that finally the first big UAV will come into the army! Yeah ... wait for the answer! A new version! Altius M?

No need for pessimism. Three years ago, there was no such class of aircraft as an UAV in the Russian Armed Forces. Purchased from Israel. Now there are, and adopted. And with each new development, a series will be more advanced devices.

[kjhg]

Quote: Invoce

And with each new development, a series will be more advanced devices.

A strange explanation. The device either does not meet the technical specifications for the development that the MO issued, or the MO itself is no longer satisfied with the characteristics that it issued to the developer.
Both the first and second options are more like conspiracy to cut.
The army has been waiting for this drone for many years and now, when it has to go to the troops, it is again postponed indefinitely. What the hell?

[spectr]

Most likely the 2nd option, but with the clarification that the developer wrote the first TK, and the warriors put their signatures. Then, during the development and delivery of the product, the warriors sorted out the subject a bit and began to understand what was missing. But since there is no TK, then it is not possible to claim.
It is possible that the modernization was ordered, since they saw a perspective in the drone.

[_Ugene_]

No need for pessimism. Three years ago, there was no such class of aircraft as an UAV in the Russian Armed Forces. Purchased from Israel.

who do you want to deceive? The first Searcher II were purchased from Israel in April 2009, i.e. 11 years ago. A localized version of the Israeli Searcher II (the so-called Outpost) has been produced at the Ural Civil Aviation Plant (UZGA) since 2012, i.e. already 8 years old.

[Tavrik]

There were in fair quantities. This shock was not there, and no.

[Thrifty]

This song is good, start over! I did not understand why of us, politely speaking, they make stupid? And the old version of it has not yet flown or fought anywhere, and then on you, they patrolled the new version! Then, after the next super-cut of the attendants, will they order a super-super version? Still not tired of just people's money, which means that they simply throw freebies to the wind? ??

[Galleon]

A strategic scout without a satellite link is simply untenable. There are also questions regarding its aerodynamic properties: 12 km is not enough ceiling for a scout. But without a satellite, it’s just no good. Now they have made UAVs with a communication and control channel via satellite. For the first time!! At last! Yes, it's just a revolution, if all this works. Bomb! Detachment of the head!
If everything works there, then a series may well go.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Thrifty

And the old version of it has not yet flown and fought nowhere

How can she fight somewhere if she does not satisfy the MO?

[Thrifty]

Stepan it seems like they didn’t adopt it yesterday! How can one accept that which is bad at the root? How did its first options then go through state tests, and were recommended for production?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Thrifty

it seems like they didn’t adopt it yesterday! How can one accept that which is bad at the root?

In January of this year, tests of the EXPERIMENTAL sample were only completed. What kind of adoption can we talk about? Now, according to the test results, they will bring it to mind.

[Thrifty]

Stepan, at first he was Altair, then it was renamed Altius, but apparently the change of name did not produce the desired results, and Altius decided to continue to modernize the crude one. .. Do you like this song very much? Not for me!

[Piramidon]

Quote: Thrifty

and raw now Altius decided to continue to modernize. .. Do you like this song very much? Not for me!

For this, the tests are carried out and, according to their results, they are modernized so that it is not raw. And you have already adopted it "for a long time". When? This is still a complex complex, and not a stool where he tested - yeah, it staggers, sawed off a leg and into action.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Thrifty

Do you like a song like that, really? Not for me!

Well, for example, I do not like provocateurs
"At the end of 2018, there was a change in the contractor of the Altius-M project. After the audit of the Ministry of Defense in JSC NPO OKB im. M. P. Simonova “”, who has been involved in Altius since 2011, they decided to take the topic from the bureau and transfer it to Ural Civil Aviation Plant JSC (UZGA). The reason is that the OKB allegedly did not cope with the task. Deputy Minister of Defense Aleksey Krivoruchko confirmed that there was a change in the contractor and said that the new person in charge of the topic would take off the car in 2019 [8].

On August 20, 2019, the video of the first flight of Altius-U UAV in fully automatic mode appeared on the website of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. The drone took off, performed maneuvers in the sky for 32 minutes, and then landed [9]."
Tell me, what prevented you from finding this on the Internet? or do you think that in less than 2 years it’s bad to lift a ditch project into the air? Or are you worried about those who sawed the budget from 2011 to 2018?
no wonder you are so fiercely minded

[Invoce]

There is such a thing as "revision" according to industry bulletins agreed with the RF Ministry of Defense. And at the expense of the industry. These Bulletins are aimed at improving the TTD, reliability and simplification of aircraft maintenance. So what about "people's" money, you are a little wrong. R&D is constantly carried out by manufacturers based on the development of science and technology. No one stands still, incl. our likely "partners"

[Invoce]

Quote: Thrifty

This song is good, start over! I did not understand why of us, politely speaking, they make stupid? And the old version of it has not yet flown or fought anywhere, and then on you, they patrolled the new version! Then, after the next super-cut of the attendants, will they order a super-super version? I’m not tired of just simply folk money, which means that they simply throw freebies into the wind???

There is such a thing as "revision" according to industry bulletins agreed with the RF Ministry of Defense. And at the expense of the industry. These Bulletins are aimed at improving the TTD, reliability and simplification of aircraft maintenance. So what about "people's" money, you are a little wrong. R&D is constantly carried out by manufacturers based on the development of science and technology. No one stands still, incl. our likely "partners"

[Thrifty]

Well, why did the raw option in fire mode suddenly take into service? And now everything is exactly the opposite — instead of a series, refinement to the mind, the modernization of the apparatus, which was not even practically used anywhere! It’s just a country revelation!

[Genry]

Quote: Thrifty

why the crude option in fire mode was suddenly adopted

Where did you get the raw option? Almost all products are constantly being finalized (to improve development characteristics) and modified (eliminating obsolescence of already manufactured products).
For example, the civilian Boeing 737max was modified to such a state that it began to fall and was stopped selling.
Dry Superjet is also constantly being finalized. Recently he added wingtips - cyberlets.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Thrifty

why did the raw option in fire mode suddenly take into service?

Do not write nonsense. Who and when adopted it?

[Alexey-74]

I look forward to the appearance of the S-70 "Hunter" ......

[Thrifty]

Aleksey 74 - now also the C70 Hunter will also suddenly decide to deeply deeply go on for about 5 years to upgrade to the Super70 C0,25 + -XNUMX option ...

[Cowbra]

The big question is what we need. The hunter is a percussionist, of course not a sensible thing ... But with the length of our borders, a UAV hanging for two days at the border is strong. And you can hit with artillery - you can still intercept a rocket, but you can torture a shell

[Genry]

Quote: Cowbra

The big question is what we need.

Answer: you need both. It is confirmed by the availability of developments and prototypes.

Quote: Cowbra

But with the length of our borders - the UAV, hanging for two days at the border - this is strong.

Of course it’s strong, but if only .... For example, the discovery of submarines.

Quote: Cowbra

you can still intercept a rocket, but a shell - you are tormented by catching

Electronics already allows you to track small objects (radar showing the trajectory of shelling). So this question arises only because of the laziness of interested parties (they have already put Armata).

[stone]

This is not an updated version, for this it is necessary that the previous version be operated at least a few years in the army! If you translate into Russian, the military said this does not suit us, go and redo it!

[Rostislav]

Redo - this is if at the expense of the developer. And then a new contract and new financing. The question, however.

[Warrior MorePhoto]

New version of "shift to the right" ... originals, there are already no words

[Alex_Bora]

It was almost a finished UAV from the Simonov Design Bureau, but ... the head of Simonov’s Design Bureau was imprisoned, transferred to the UZGA, adding the letter "U". Now they'll throw some more money on R&D,
Alas, "Loot - wins" everything, especially "Loot with the right connections"

[askort154]

And the most unpleasant thing is that the engines on it are not ours - the German RED A03 (diesel)
Today the Germans deliver, what will I be tomorrow ?!

[Genry]

Quote: askort154

And the most unpleasant thing is that the engines on it are not ours - the German RED A03 (diesel)
Today the Germans deliver, what will I be tomorrow ?!

Engine from Aurus (Cortege) ... A 500-strong air version is already being prepared.
https://aviation21.ru/prototip-dvigatelya-apd-500-projdyot-lyotnye-ispytaniya-v-2021-godu/

[Piramidon]

Quote: askort154

And the most unpleasant thing is that the engines on it are not ours - the German RED A03

These engines are also produced in Russia.

The Russo-Balt company has localized the production of the German power plant RED-A03T

https://военное.рф/2018/Оборонка289/

[nikolas 83]

Again, development and testing. More than 5 years ago. Recently, we have made, promised, made, and promised. About Orion, silence after the accident and nothing can be heard about Hunter.

[senima56]

For some reason, this is always the case with us: the "old" version of the device has not yet been accepted into service, but it does not suit something anymore - the "new" version was ordered. And so on ad infinitum ... Take the SU-57: while the engine of the second stage is being made, "a new avionics have already appeared, it is necessary to change the" old ".... Then the new weapons ... Mdaaa really:" the process of cutting budget money "is an endless process !

[Tavrik]

Because the legislation is like that. So far, in accordance with GOST and departmental documents, all types of tests will pass, identify shortcomings, eliminate, experience a new one, years pass. All this is dreary, long and expensive. The output is an outdated device that I want to update. And this is again a test cycle ... And so in a circle. I don’t even speak about the desire of industry to endlessly receive money for OCD.

[sinoptic]

Those who closely follow the topic know Altius was developed with German engines, 500 strong.
Such an apparatus of the Ministry of Defense cannot be accepted into the troops. Nevertheless, the drone did and brought to mind. Next was the issue of licensed production of these same German engines in Russia.
However, it seems that the issue with the engines was decided differently.
We saw the recent news that the 500 hp engine from "Aurus" is being modified into an aircraft version. It seems that the contract with the Ministry of Defense is based on this fundamental decision. There will be "Altius" with others, already with ours, engines and a contract for it is concluded.
I must say right away - these are my conclusions - based on the analysis of the information hovering around, as it is in reality, we will see.

[Piramidon]

Quote from rudolf

Transfer production to Russia is no problem.

They did not transfer, but they organized completely localized production in Russia.

[maiman61]

Well, are you outraged? After all, the MO moves and want a better weapon to get. Maybe in Syria they experienced and many claims appeared. So they need to be finalized. But in the country's economy, a recession for twenty years and no one stirs a horn! This is a disaster!