Unknown devices and rewards for catching them: Chinese fishing


2012 find in Hainan


Since 2016, the PRC has been rewarding fishermen for catching and delivering “unfamiliar technical underwater devices” to government bodies.

"We will surrender more - they will give more!"


We can talk about both our own, lost PLA Navy, and foreign devices, and it doesn’t make a difference whether the fishermen caught them in their territorial waters, in the exclusive economic zone of the PRC, or beyond.

Such devices mean training or even combat torpedoes, training mines, sonar buoys anti-submarine aviation, stationary buoys of sonar systems for underwater surveillance, and, of course, underwater unmanned vehicles (BPA or, in English, UUV), both tethered and autonomous. The remuneration, it should be noted, is extremely substantial for any country, not only for China - the amount reaches 500 thousand yuan, which is approximately 72 thousand dollars. Of course, they won’t give so much for their buoy or their torpedo (although torpedoes, even training ones, cost extremely solid money), but they will pay the maximum for foreign ones, especially spy ones.

So, at the end of 2019 in Jiangsu province in the city of Nantong, 7 fishing fishers, including a woman, were awarded at an open conference for finding 11 devices. The year before there were 18 people who found 9 foreign devices. Everything is handed over at the local office of the Ministry of State Security of China, in a festive atmosphere and with press coverage. Why exactly in Jiangsu? The vast majority of finds happen there - this is a province with a large coastline, more than 1000 km of length, well developed economically (in GDP it is inferior only to Guangdong province), with developed fishing and located near an important crossroads of the sea routes - South Korea and DPRK, and Japan, south - the largest port and economic center of the PRC Shanghai, even south - hostile Taiwan. Yes, and the base and shipyard of the Chinese fleet nearby are available. Of course, the activity of foreign intelligence services in this region is very high - both the activities of the intelligence services of the USA, Japan and South Korea against the DPRK and China, and the activities of intelligence agencies, including the maritime special (special forces) of the DPRK against the USA, Japan and South Korea, and action intelligence China, of course.

"Non-fishing" catch stories


In China, state security agencies publish relevant announcements for fishermen and other citizens in the press - they say if you find such unfamiliar devices, call 12339 at the security call center or inform via the website. They are published in the media and in the Chinese segment of the Internet and posters with the image of BPA of foreign origin that can be found are hung up in ports. And this, as we see, is bearing fruit. Of course, they are found in different regions, but the press reports are far from everything. So, in 2012, in the Hainan region, a BPA of “foreign” (American in fact) origin was caught, made in dimensions close to the standard NATO 324-mm anti-submarine light torpedo. Although it was unlikely that he was released from the TA of a surface ship, judging by a number of details, he would not fit there in caliber, most likely, he was dropped from an airplane. The BPA had a titanium case, a satellite dish and a set of cameras.

It was definitely not possible to identify him (perhaps the Chinese special services were able, but did not share their knowledge), outwardly he looked like one of the REMUS-600 BPU manufactured by the Kongsberg company of the Hydroid series, but a number of details indicate that this is completely another BPA. For some reason, this particular case became well-known in China, and now in the news even the recent rewarding of fishermen is illustrated with old shots of the 2012 find. Another, presumably "Kongsberg" REMUS-100 BPA, was found by fishermen from Jiangsu in 2017, they they caught a long time ago, obviously, the apparatus lost by the owners and heavily corroded.

The origin of the devices found is, of course, difficult to figure out. The main part of what they find belongs to the national Navy, and such devices, lost in their uniforms and stretched out by fishermen where they can be caught, may be prohibited (but fishermen from all countries are not too disciplined) are not advertised. Photos of foreign BPA are rarely found in the PRC mass media. But still fall. In particular, on the aforementioned poster for fishermen, it was possible to identify such BPA as Archerfish from BAE, Slocum and its military version Littoral Battlespace Sensing-Glider, Artemis AUV and Bluefin-12. It’s not a fact, of course, that all these devices fell into the hands of the Chinese special services - they could easily pull photos from the Internet.


The aforementioned poster and decoding of the BPA types on it from HI Sutton

However, it is known reliably about falling into the hands of the Chinese of this BPA - Littoral Battlespace Sensing-Glider (LBS-G), found at the end of 2016 by a Chinese vessel. LBS-G, created on the basis of the Teledine civilian Slocum, is a non-self-contained vehicle towed by an “underwater glider” capable of carrying various types of detection equipment, in particular, a multi-beam sonar for 3D mapping of the seabed and the search for sunken objects. The device belonged to the US Navy, and was engaged, according to the Americans, "peaceful oceanographic activities." The Chinese later, after protests from the United States, returned to them this BPA, and all this история became famous thanks to Trump and his twitter.


But the ship from which this device was released can be attributed to peaceful oceanographers exactly as much as the numerous "cruisers" of our GUGI like the well-known "Amber". This is the USNS Bowditch (T-AGS 62) built in 1994, the US Navy's oceanographer with a displacement of about 5 thousand tons. This typical reconnaissance ship practically constantly hangs in the waters near China and regularly gets there in history. In March 2001, a Chinese frigate, going a distance shorter than the cable, forced the ship to leave the "research" area near the state maritime borders of the DPRK and South Korea. But later they returned, accompanied by a warship of the United States Navy. In 2002, Chinese patrol ships drove him out of the area near the state border of China in the Yellow Sea, and in May 2003, Boudich was rammed by a Chinese fishing seiner (rumored to be the same seiner as an American peaceful explorer , the Chinese have enough of these ships), and received damage. Boudich was also noted near the Indian Nicobar Islands in 2001, which provoked protests from India. And even the allied South Koreans got his activity somehow so that they protested the United States.

The LBS-G was picked up by a Chinese navy support vessel, a rescue vessel to assist submarines. Perhaps the Chinese simply discovered the towed American vehicle by the active channel of the hydroacoustic complex, which is obliged to be on such a vessel, and cut off the cable to him with their BPA or somehow picked it up, in general, they honestly stole it. Perhaps it was the multi-beam mapping sonar that interested them. Or maybe they wanted to interrupt the search for the Americans, until they found something valuable. Towed vehicles and extended antennas of hydroacoustic stations have previously stolen, including our sailors.


There is a catch! Towed sonar Edgetech DF1000

Croatian catch


I must say that the Americans do not disdain and follow the allies. A Croatian fishing boat netted more than it expected when it pulled something from the Adriatic on January 6th. "Marian II" trawled at a depth of 140 m when he trapped a mysterious object. The device, weighing about 100 kg, was lifted to the deck. The crew and local media could only guess what it was. The device was a cubic orange buoy with an anchor device underneath.


"Croatian catch" and its owner

The captain of the ship not only did not know his destination, but could not make out any signs indicating to whom he belongs. After posting photos of the object on social networks, he reportedly received a phone call from the owner with a request to return what he found. The owner was the US Navy. Horvath returned the device to the Americans, as they say, after some intense bargaining for remuneration and compensation for broken networks. The USNS Bruce C. Heezen, the "peaceful oceanographer" of the US Navy Bruce C. Heezen, installed the same device of the same type, "Boudic", found out by examining transponder readings on sites like marinetraffic.com. It is strange that the Americans did not turn off the transponder when they were installing some devices — ours usually do this, otherwise there is no sense in such works.

According to some indications, a well-known underwater researcher, HI Sutton, suggested that the buoy consisted of a Teledine acoustic transponder and an Kongsberg acoustic beacon. And the device itself came to Croatia, and then aboard the Bruce Hizen from Mississippi, from the city of Hancock, where the NASA John Stennis Space Center is located (where fire tests of engines for the ILV are carried out) and the facilities related to NAVOCEANO are located there - The US Navy’s Oceanographic Administration, in general, is something like our GUGI. What it was supposed to do there buoy off the coast of Croatia and who to monitor, it is difficult to say. Around there are only NATO allies, and our submarines and nuclear submarines are unlikely to be often in the Adriatic - it makes no sense. Maybe, of course, the truth was purely scientific research, or maybe not.

Experience that benefits many


Why do Chinese fishermen catch a lot of hostile BPA with their nets? Well, firstly, because the coastal fishing fleet of the PRC is very numerous, that is, there are statistics. Secondly, these devices are actively used against China, but, say, against Brazil - hardly. Thirdly, part of the Chinese fishermen, as already mentioned, the fishermen are the same as those from the GUGI ships - pure scientists. Fourth, it is the Chinese authorities and the media that are promoting this topic, while in Russia, for example, they are silent about it, although the navy and security agencies, of course, work on similar problems.

And perhaps, we should have announced such remunerations, of course, for finding only foreign BPA, otherwise our gouges will primarily catch their equipment - install it again later. Because the interest of the US and NATO intelligence in our waters is beyond doubt - what is Nenox alone or landfills in the area of ​​Novaya Zemlya, where such interesting things as Onyx-M RCC, Zircon, Caliber-M KR and SPA "Poseidon" and the Kyrgyz Republic with the "Petrel". Of course, such areas are probably protected from such penetration, otherwise it would not have been necessary for some of them to build mushroom pickers not so long ago and use other ways to satisfy curiosity at the state expense. But there are other areas. Yes, in the field of underwater drones, Russia is at least not lower than its competitors, and in a number of positions, of course, it is even higher than them - you can recall the same “Klavesin-2R-PM”, or such topics as “Cephalopod”, without saying so about the same "Poseidon" with the devices that support it. But it will probably not hurt to stimulate the vigilance of our fishermen and sailors. As well as to intensify the creation of tools to combat such small BPA, and not only small ones. So far, nothing but the same BPA, but of a destructive nature, and mining, "sharpened" to fight against small-sized objects, does not occur. But surely those who do this professionally have more ideas. And you, dear readers, what ideas to combat such "overseas guests" come to mind?
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  1. Aerodrome 24 January 2020 05: 45 New
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    Since 2016, the PRC has been rewarding fishermen for catching and delivering “unfamiliar technical underwater devices” to government bodies.
    normal move! winked
    1. aszzz888 24 January 2020 06: 22 New
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      Aerodrome (Aerodrom) Today, 05: 45
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      Since 2016, the PRC has been rewarding fishermen for catching and delivering “unfamiliar technical underwater devices” to government bodies.
      normal move ! winked
      And most importantly income! wink
    2. Nyrobsky 24 January 2020 10: 03 New
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      Quote: Aerodrome
      Since 2016, the PRC has been rewarding fishermen for catching and delivering “unfamiliar technical underwater devices” to government bodies.
      normal move! winked

      But not ours! request Our peasant is also given a hat, fined for allegedly wanting something, they will call the manufacturer and give them an apology and assurances that "their" copyrights have not been violated. And therefore, our man, if he finds any stray, he will slowly remove everything shiny from her and that he’s useful in the “farm” and will go into the fog or blizzard on stilts so as not to leave any traces. recourse
    3. Fedor egoist 24 January 2020 12: 41 New
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      Quote: Y. Vyatkin
      And you, dear readers, what ideas to combat such "overseas guests" come to mind?

      You can put metal detectors in bottlenecks, like at airports, and put a guard on an ice floe. Overseas torpedo spy tries to swim - and then the sensor beeps, the light comes on and the guard detains the intruder laughing
      In general, the methods have long been known - a network of bottom / semi-immersed sonar. The higher the density of their placement, the higher the probability of detection.
  2. Obi-Wan Kenobi 24 January 2020 06: 17 New
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    Well done the Chinese!
    Great idea brings great results!
    1. aszzz888 24 January 2020 06: 23 New
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      Obi Wan Kenobi (Sigismund Voldemarovich) Today, 06:17 AM NEW
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      Well done the Chinese!
      Great idea brings great fruit!

      The "fruits" of the state that surrendered are the yuan.
      1. Obi-Wan Kenobi 24 January 2020 06: 25 New
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        Well, the yuan is also a kind of "fruit" to the finder.
  3. rocket757 24 January 2020 07: 42 New
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    We can talk about both our own, lost PLA Navy, and foreign devices, and it doesn’t make a difference whether the fishermen caught them in their territorial waters, in the exclusive economic zone of the PRC, or beyond.

    Very practical approach!
  4. sabakina 24 January 2020 07: 48 New
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    The crew and local media could only guess what it was. The device was a cubic orange buoy with an anchor device underneath.
    This reminded me of an episode from the movie "Genius", where a professor from the Institute of Television examined a video camera in a hotel room and could not understand how it transmits a signal ...
  5. knn54 24 January 2020 09: 06 New
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    The idea is to mask the special forces "under the fishermen". Well, the equipment on the "trawlers" put the appropriate. I think that the effect will be considerable.
  6. Ros 56 24 January 2020 09: 19 New
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    This is a dangerous business, you will begin to turn over, and it smells like it, but the dead do not need money. So here it is necessary wisely.
    1. Krasnoyarsk 24 January 2020 09: 43 New
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      Quote: Ros 56
      This is a dangerous business, you will begin to turn over, and it smells like it, but the dead do not need money. So here it is necessary wisely.

      That's it. It is worth the mattresses to equip their "devices" with a self-detonating system with a minimum number of explosives and one fisherman will be injured when caught, and that’s all, after that the fishermen will bypass all these "devices".
      1. Dmitry V. 24 January 2020 11: 22 New
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        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        That's it. It is worth the mattresses to equip their "devices" with a self-detonating system with a minimum number of explosives and one fisherman will be injured when caught, and that’s all, after that the fishermen will bypass all these "devices".


        Who is stopping towing devices overboard?
      2. Usher 24 January 2020 20: 31 New
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        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        Quote: Ros 56
        This is a dangerous business, you will begin to turn over, and it smells like it, but the dead do not need money. So here it is necessary wisely.

        That's it. It is worth the mattresses to equip their "devices" with a self-detonating system with a minimum number of explosives and one fisherman will be injured when caught, and that’s all, after that the fishermen will bypass all these "devices".

        Well then, in an international court and a scandal for the whole world.
        1. Krasnoyarsk 24 January 2020 21: 59 New
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          Quote: Usher
          Well then, in an international court and a scandal for the whole world.

          Yeah, scare (mattresses) hedgehog naked booty.
  7. Dmitry V. 24 January 2020 10: 47 New
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    500000 yuan at the rate of 9p per yuan - 4,5 million forever wooden rupees, it's time to retrain as a Chinese fisherman :))
  8. ccsr 24 January 2020 11: 57 New
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    Y. Vyatkin, specially for the "Military Review"
    Perhaps the Chinese simply discovered the towed American vehicle by the active channel of the hydroacoustic complex, which is obliged to be on such a vessel, and cut off the cable to it with their BPA or somehow picked it up, in general, they honestly stole it.

    I won’t be surprised if such a thing would ever result in a decent explosion, or maybe it already was, but the Chinese just hide it, that's why the advertisement went. This method was used a long time ago, when explosive devices were specially installed in the discovered bookmarks to hit members of the agents, and this sometimes worked.
  9. Zaurbek 24 January 2020 13: 57 New
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    And what about this in the Russian Federation?
    1. Lexus 24 January 2020 17: 09 New
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      I believe that the fishermen themselves "reward" at the points of reception of scrap metal and colormet.
  10. Kelwin 24 January 2020 18: 31 New
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    And you, dear readers, what ideas to combat such "overseas guests" come to mind?

    It would be possible to install some semi-autonomous means of detection on civilian vessels, which were not very complicated and expensive, returned from a flight, handed over a USB flash drive, and took a new one in a circle. The main thing is ease of use, just to connect the power and press the on button, inside nothing secret, HACK, GLONASS receiver and recorder, decryption later, centralized. For detecting something interesting, you can also pay a premium. In theory, it’s not such an impossible task to equip several thousand ships, and it’s cheaper to create the same thousands of special carriers, but special ones should work in non-navigable areas. This is an inoperative remedy of course, but as an addition to the rest, why not.
  11. Paul Siebert 25 January 2020 15: 31 New
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    Somehow, during my urgent service in the Baltic, being a steering-signalman, I found a Norwegian beacon with an antenna.
    And then he pulled him to the deck with the help of a repulsor.
    So in the Navy the hook is called.
    Thanks were announced before the formation ... laughing
    1. agond 25 January 2020 19: 41 New
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      Quote: Usher
      Well then, in an international court and a scandal for the whole world

      It’s not at all necessary to lay explosives in the BPA, and a cylinder of compressed gas in the apparatus can also be dangerous when it is lifted onto a fishing vessel, although if the explosive works, then how to prove whose it was? I think it was not necessary to advertise such a side job for fishermen, mattresses can begin to specially plant mined UAVs in Chinese waters, and in general in serious developments there should be protection against unauthorized disassembly.