In India, announced the work on import substitution MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB based on Tejas-Navy

The Indian company Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd announces the consideration of the prospect of developing a twin-engine carrier-based fighter, which in the future should become the basis of the aircraft wing of the Indian Navy. Thus, India is going to "import substitute" Russian carrier-based fighters, which it currently uses. For now aviation the wing of the Vikramaditya aircraft carrier (formerly Admiral Gorshkov) consists of the MiG-29KUB and MiG-29K fighters.

Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd announced that they carried out test landings on the deck of the prototype Tejas fighter aircraft carrier several days ago.

From a message from HAL Managing Director R. Madhavan:

We want us to be given the terms of reference for a carrier-based fighter with two engines. This project must be approved by the country's Navy. As a result, we will be able to accelerate R&D on the Tejas-Navy carrier-based fighter.

To date, the company, as claimed, has created two prototypes of such aircraft, but so far the Navy has not approved the final version of the TK and the “look” of carrier-based aircraft. It is also known that the development of a fighter for the Indian Navy in the country's Navy is trusted by HAL and DRDO to the Indian Defense Research Agency).

If we talk about prototypes (NP1 and NP2), then they are based on the usual version of Tejas with a modified version of the chassis and landing (brake) hook. At the same time, as reported in the HAL, the nose part of the prototype is somewhat lowered so that the pilot will receive a more complete overview.

Tejas-NP2 made a test landing on the Vikramaditya deck on January 11, and took off from an aircraft carrier on January 12. After that, R. Madhavan said that India was among the few countries that have the technology to create carrier-based fighter jets. At the same time, in India they started talking about the planned work on import substitution of Russian-made carrier-based fighter aircraft.

Comments

[bessmertniy]

India will not win much on this import substitution, and it is still unknown what quality the aircraft will be issued by the Indian aviation industry.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: bessmertniy

it is still unknown what quality the aircraft will be produced by the Indian aviation industry.

yes, that’s how it turned out with the INSAS automatic rifle

[Teberii]

It will turn out like with T-90 tanks. We got the documentation and cannot normally collect. We have to buy from Russia again.

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Teberii

We got the documentation and cannot normally collect.

it is necessary to read the documentation more attentively, it is also written there: After exiting the conveyor, modify the file.

[Omskgasmyas]

The turkeys do not know the file. But dancing with elephants will be required

[Observer2014]

Quote: Teberii

It will turn out like with T-90 tanks. We got the documentation and cannot normally collect. We have to buy from Russia again.

There is such a joke in the subject of your comment. The Americans stole the drawings of our fighter. Collected. Assembled. Assembled. Received a steam engine. Disassembled. Again. Again turned out a steam locomotive. Stole an engineer. .and by a steam locomotive. After a week the fighter opens a workshop. So how? And he did not carefully read the documentation for them. At the end of the drawings it is written that after assembly to process a file ..

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: bessmertniy

it is still unknown what quality the aircraft will be produced by the Indian aviation industry.

If it produces anything, then it is not known when: tejas sawing almost a quarter century is very active. Shiva to help them ..

[Pereira]

C'mon, if you launch missiles, then that’s enough. It is not at all necessary to prepare for maneuverable battles with land fighters.
The question is the correct formulation of the problem for the wing.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Pereira

The question is the correct formulation of the problem for the wing.

Then let’s take it broader - the question is in the correct formulation of the problem for the concept of using AUG in general.
In truth, I just don’t think that tejas who in a quarter of a century are able to oppose something to modern cars.

[Pereira]

Good. What tasks can aircraft carrier be posed in principle?
You are an aviator in epaulettes, I am a hunter, nonetheless.
1. Striking land objects
2. Striking ships
3. Defense against enemy attack aircraft
4. Protecting your attack aircraft.
In my opinion, 1-3 tasks are solved by any aircraft capable of raising long-range missiles.
Clause 4 means a dog dump over the WWII period attack aircraft. How often has this clause been implemented in the last 50 years?
I have written more than once, TU 160 is not needed. Raise the IL-76 over Moscow and launch a missile from it to Washington. The result will be the same, if not better, since the rocket will be detected much later than its carrier.
As an engineer, I suspect that the generals are fooling us.

[Pete mitchell]

For global conflicts - the presence / absence of ACG is not critical, but for local conflicts you must be prepared to represent / defend / attack ... You missed another task: the defense of marine groups - aka to represent the interests of your country in any corner of the world. And of course the generals are pleased - more people: wider stripes.

[Pereira]

Sculpt an aircraft carrier to represent interests? Where? What for? Just show the flag? Destructively. Amerikosy monitor the sea lanes constantly in readiness to cut them. Should Hindus also do this?

[Pete mitchell]

I still wildly apologize, but this is a question of a different level, this top leadership of the country concerned must decide whether the country needs it or not. Indians have their own interests, the Indian Ocean is called

[orionvitt]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

tejas sawing almost a quarter century

Why a quarter century? In a previous article, it was written that they started to create it back in the early 80s. It turns out more than 35 years. In my mind, again dancing with tambourines. It can’t be compared with MIGs either, the benefit of its production. I want to ask, but what about the development of the latest aircraft, I don’t know what generation (probably the eighth) that they swung at? Already everything, will finish tejas?

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: orionvitt

began to create it back in the early 80's. It turns out more than 35 years.

At sunset, the Union, it was already written about in the Foreign Military Review. You are completely right in my opinion

Quote: orionvitt

dancing with tambourines again. I want to ask, but what about the development of the latest aircraft, I don’t know what generation (probably the eighth) that they swung at?

Better not to be interested, I'm afraid the answer will upset us

[orionvitt]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Better not to be interested, I'm afraid the answer will upset us

Not at all. It’s just that people don’t live that much.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: orionvitt

It’s just that people don’t live that much.

In principle, it would be interesting to see that they are there will filebut I agree - not fate ...

[TermNachTer]

In my opinion, looking at "tejas" is already clear. Considering how much they finished the "Tejas", it’s even scary to think how much they will need to create a deck version, albeit with great unification with the "Tejas".

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Quote: orionvitt

It’s just that people don’t live that much.

In principle, it would be interesting to see that they are there will filebut I agree - not fate ...

[TermNachTer]

I’m afraid I won’t live, it’s already 50, I think I will not reach the age of 90.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: TermNachTER

I’m afraid I won’t live, it’s already 50, I think I will not reach the age of 90.

What optimist are you about tejasa, do you think they can handle
You personally, of course, have more optimism, I have the same picture, but we can agree to discuss Indian successes in 40 years

[TermNachTer]

Let's try, you, too, for many years.

[Pete mitchell]

Well, we’ll try, we set real goals.
They are of course stubborn, but the creation of an engineering school from scratch is the task of more than one generation. The Chinese no doubt achieved some success, but they cannot create a modern engine. Russia for two decades fell out from the cage of countries engaged in work for the future - now have to catch up. For exactly the same reasons, MotorSich is a dead enterprise - Amen. As agreed - there will still be time to discuss

[TermNachTer]

In Russia, at least some work was carried out for the future, but on the "Motor" they simply "devoured" Soviet developments. And alas, neither Motor nor Banderland as a whole has any distinct prospects. But let's hope for the best.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: TermNachTER

neither Motor has any distinct prospects

Here it seems to me it is possible more categorically - in circulation, over. Western manufacturers do not need it: a competitor is unnecessary and the level is not the same. Russians will live without him. The Chinese will have time to squeeze something out, but this is also yesterday in engine building. Now the Lithuanian Antonov will finish off the Amen aircraft manufacturing neighbors.
On the whole, the Estonian president clearly expressed the opinion of the West - Europe is tired of this country, nobody needs them. The sooner they realize this, the easier it will be for them.
And of course

Quote: TermNachTER

let's hope for the best

, on another it is impossible

[Graz]

well, it’s their business, just before you write off our planes, let them bring their own to a good level, otherwise it may turn out that ours will be written off, but they won’t satisfy theirs and the old woman will remain with nothing

[Amateur]

Another Bollywood with songs and dances. But maybe you should recommend the Indians to unite with the Poles? Those, too, have recently bred a Wishlist for the production of modern weapons.

Polish elephant is the best friend of the Indian elephant

[knn54]

During the Malabar-2017 exercise in the Bay of Bengal, MiG-29K / KUB, operated from the Vikramaditya aircraft carrier, showed good results.
"Vikramaditya" and "Vikrant" are intended for the basing of Russian aviation equipment, incl. MiG-29K / KUB. Replacement of aircraft will require replacement / significant improvement of the take-off-landing system.
At the same time, aircraft carriers will not be able to operate.

[Rostislav]

Normal aspiration. Each country seeks less to depend on anyone in the arms industry.
Another question - will it work? The hands of the Indians are more "sharpened" under the flute than under the file. So far, nothing good has come of them either with tanks or with the rifle.

[Thrifty]

Well, this song they will last more than one decade. By that time, the aircraft carrier will be already written off to the reserve when the Indian analogue of our MiG 29 KUB appears.

[Livonetc]

It is so.
But India will have others when written off to the reserve of this aircraft carrier.
It is on this piece that the Indian mouth is opened.
It is quite sensible.

[Pavel57]

Another 10 years will be imported.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Quote: bessmertniy

it is still unknown what quality the aircraft will be produced by the Indian aviation industry.

If it produces anything, then it is not known when: tejas sawing almost a quarter century is very active. Shiva to help them ..

I would wish them a Kama Sutra to help. More impressive helper. And effective. Look at how big the population is. And Shiva is famous for lying on its side for several thousand years.

[Magog]

As can be understood from everything said about Indian aircraft carriers, the latter are of purely Russian origin. In our country, aircraft-carrying ships were built based on harsh cold conditions of use - therefore, a springboard takeoff. The Hindus should start their program of such a fleet with the creation of a ship with a traditional catapult, and then bring their plane to these take-off conditions from the deck. Or are they going to act in extreme latitudes?

[IL-18]

Quote: Magog

are they going to act in extreme latitudes?

Before Antarctica, they only have one ocean (Indian) to cross. And in the case of the global ice age, a springboard is the best choice.

[Ros 56]

To help the Indians, their many-armed deity. But we are not in business when the fall will begin. And they will begin to fall.

[Shelest2000]

In India, announced the work on import substitution MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB based on Tejas-Navy

Nude, single engine deck ...