“Don't let the adversary sleep at night”: the USA is proud of the new NSM anti-ship missiles


Late last week, General John Hayten, deputy chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, expressed concern about the "speed" with which "potential opponents" Russia and China are trying to overtake the United States as the world's leading military power.


Against this background, General Dynamics revealed new details about the capabilities of weapons systems installed on board the littoral warships (LCS) of the United States Navy Independence class. In a recent press release quoted by Defense Blog, company employee Stan Cordan boasted the high potential of an NSM-branded sea-based strike missile.

According to him, at the Griffin exercises held last October near Guam, the littoral ship USS Gabrielle Giffords showed what outstanding results “a small team of very talented people can achieve in a very short time”.

Commenting on the successful test launch of the rocket from the USS Gabrielle Giffords in October, US Navy Commander Rear Admiral Joey Tinch was proud that the Independence LCS with new weapons “gives potential opponents one more reason to stay awake at night”:

Let the adversary not sleep at night.

NSM, developed by the Norwegian company Kongsberg Defense & Aerospace, is a long-range anti-ship missile capable of hitting targets from 185 to 555 km. It is currently installed on board the LCS type Freedom and Independence of the U.S. Navy. The production of rockets for US needs is entrusted to Raytheon.

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  1. Thrifty 14 January 2020 05: 26 New
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    As I understand it, the subsonic missile, as always, is a stealth technology, also low-spill! Norwegians well done, a good "headache" created! However, in vain the Yankees sold this rocket, now the United States will be saliva from happiness for a long time! !!
    1. Abbot 14 January 2020 06: 12 New
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      NSM, developed by Norwegian company Kongsberg Defense & Aerospace, is a long-range anti-ship missile
      Presumably, it did not work out to screw their "harpoons" because of the large dimensions, so they took the Norwegian ones.
    2. voyaka uh 14 January 2020 11: 04 New
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      It is subsonic, not very stealth, low flying. Cheap, relative to other anti-ship missiles.
      The rocket itself is not new, but Lockheed supplied it with an intelligent seeker.
      Its disadvantage is that it cannot be launched from vertical standard containers.
      It has already begun to be mounted on LSC trimarans littoral ships, on which there were almost no offensive weapons.
    3. Invoce 14 January 2020 12: 47 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      However, in vain the Yankees sold this rocket, now the United States will saliva from happiness for a long time! !!

      The main thing is not to choke .... as is the case with the deployment of missile defense in Europe ...
      For every cunning Z ... zu, there is a tool bully
    4. shahor 14 January 2020 17: 27 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      however, in vain the Yankees sold this rocket,

      The Japanese bought this rocket from them for installation on airplanes. Headache for Pacific Fleet.
  2. letinant 14 January 2020 05: 27 New
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    And it's all!? Flew out of the container, flew about 1km and EVERYTHING !?
    1. bessmertniy 14 January 2020 08: 46 New
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      And this is not surprising! lol
      1. letinant 14 January 2020 09: 10 New
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        And where is the show, getting into the ship. A spectacular explosion (a ball on the floor of the sky), a drowning aircraft carrier, bombed aircraft. There is no such report I do not accept, immediately reshoot !!! And so that an explosion on the floor of the sky! fellow
    2. shahor 14 January 2020 17: 33 New
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      Quote: letinant
      flew off by about 1km and EVERYTHING !?

      In fact, as follows from the article, a rocket, depending on the modification, can fly up to 500 km. But the main thing that delighted the US Navy is its accuracy. A missile can be guided not just into a ship - into a pre-selected part of the ship. The weapon is serious.
      1. letinant 14 January 2020 23: 40 New
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        Quote: shahor
        Quote: letinant
        flew off by about 1km and EVERYTHING !?

        In fact, as follows from the article, a rocket, depending on the modification, can fly up to 500 km. But the main thing that delighted the US Navy is its accuracy. A missile can be guided not just into a ship - into a pre-selected part of the ship. The weapon is serious.

        Where is all this, accuracy, a pre-selected part of the ship, where? It seems to me that something went wrong, so they did not show the end of the path of this rocket. After all, how they got confused with the launch video and the helicopter, and the photographers, as many as three pieces, and several cameras. And where is the finale !?
        1. tlauicol 15 January 2020 06: 24 New
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          pay attention to the position of the targets and flight profiles of the missiles. neither onyx, nor mosquito, brahmos, caliber, dagger, volcano, yachont, etc. couldn’t hit a target under these conditions or fly along such a route
          1. letinant 15 January 2020 06: 56 New
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            Are you familiar with the performance characteristics of the missiles you listed, what do you say? In general, you read what you write, collected missiles of different generations and purposes, the "dagger" here which side? What is special about the flight of this rocket is its altitude, no, even the Mosquito goes at such an altitude above the sea, plus it is supersonic. On the X-35 "ball", that's what your pet looks like. The only licked form in an attempt to reduce the EPR, we will look. A television head is not the best solution for such distances, for example, the X-59 and X-59m.
            1. tlauicol 15 January 2020 07: 09 New
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              I mean, any supersonic missile under these conditions will crash in the first turn between the islands (strait, fjord). And at high altitude it will simply fly by without noticing a target under the shore.
              And there are many such water areas where rbs15 or nsm are more useful than huge rockets: the Baltic, Aegean, Adriatic, Norwegian, Argentinean, Chilean coast, Indochina, the Indonesian archipelago, Japan, Korean skerries, etc. etc.
              1. letinant 15 January 2020 07: 29 New
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                Show her the search sector, it will come from the side where it is less visible and the target will hit. You are not familiar with modern weapons, I suppose.
                1. tlauicol 15 January 2020 07: 34 New
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                  Quote: letinant
                  Show her the search sector, it will come from the side where it is less visible and the target will hit. You are not familiar with modern weapons, I suppose.

                  did you watch the video? it is least noticeable from the coast, because of the cape, etc. Under these conditions, the NSM not only managed to find targets, but also made a series of cool maneuvers - not a single supersonic can do this, and X35 is unlikely. If the ship will go / stand between the islands, in the fjord, strait, behind the dam - generally without a chance for supersonic
                  1. letinant 15 January 2020 07: 35 New
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                    It is useless, I was led on a commercial. Come on.
                    1. tlauicol 15 January 2020 07: 39 New
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                      even quickly merged. not even interesting
            2. tlauicol 15 January 2020 07: 29 New
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              except minuses are arguments?
              you probably are not aware that "even the Mosquito" ceases to actively maneuver 9km to the target yes And then a rocket on a patch near the side turned around
              1. letinant 15 January 2020 08: 21 New
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                Where did such knowledge about the "Mosquito" come from, so I provided shooting and saw from the side. What do you rely on?
                PS And what's the point of arguing with you if I knew who you were by profession maybe and began to prove to you. And so, empty.
  3. pmkemcity 14 January 2020 05: 27 New
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    I understand that the games in STELS are over.
    1. Odysseus 14 January 2020 05: 59 New
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      Quote: pmkemcity
      I understand that the games in STELS are over.

      Why? It is positioned precisely as a stealth. Only subsonic and range for the ship version is small, up to 185 km.
      1. pmkemcity 14 January 2020 06: 14 New
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        I'm not talking about a rocket, I'm talking about PU on a tank.
        1. shahor 14 January 2020 17: 47 New
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          Quote: pmkemcity
          I'm not talking about a rocket, I'm talking about PU on a tank.

          Here is another. These ships, although they are called = BMZ ships, are actually quite seaworthy. With new weapons, the Americans expect to use them in archipelagos east of China, for example. Heavy Chinese destroyers with huge ballistic anti-ship missiles cannot be deployed there, but it’s easy to maneuver between the islands with such a freed, with a missile through the island it will cover the Chinese. In the straits, it is hardly noticeable for the radar, so the location of the launcher is not critical. Also expect to use these ships in the Persian Gulf. Speed ​​(over 40 knots), firepower (NSM, Hellfayer, Family Guy - what else is needed for the Iranian mosquito fleet?
          1. pmkemcity 15 January 2020 05: 21 New
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            Can you imagine a sea-ocean? Somehow in my childhood I happened to get into the “storm” 5,5 points in the Inland Sea on the Kamchatka Komsomolets. This is Shikoku, I’ll say it was ... Short wave. And pitching and rolling at the same time for three days. The seven thousandth steamboat tilipo so that all (well, almost all) lay. At least few ate.
            Enough space for everyone, including the "heavy Chinese destroyers." How "heavier" are they? What are their maneuvering options?
            1. shahor 15 January 2020 12: 45 New
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              Quote: pmkemcity
              How "heavier" are they? What are their maneuvering options?

              Chinese destroyers have a displacement of about 10 tons. Like Burke. The Chinese themselves consider them ships of the ocean zone. Freedom and Independence each have 000 tons. The maximum speed is up to 3500 knots. Independents, by the way (45 units) are registered with the US Navy base in the Philippines. Where they came under their own power without problems and where they serve. Why are they hanging around the archipelagos in your opinion?
              1. pmkemcity 15 January 2020 13: 07 New
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                Have you ever wondered what percentage of the time they can walk in such moves? Excitement of the sea, motor resources, fuel availability, hull strength. 1000 km of the South China Sea are 6000 hulls of the Chinese destroyer and 7500 hulls of the American. So who is easier to maneuver? You will draw on a piece of paper.
                1. shahor 15 January 2020 18: 25 New
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                  Quote: pmkemcity
                  000 km of the South China Sea

                  Why would they go to the South China Sea? That is, Burke and all sorts of other Ticanderogs. But here all sorts of islands, archipelagos that stretch east-southeast of China, is a different story. These islands have shelves with interesting content. There is Japan-Vietnam-South Korea and unresolved territorial disputes. It’s in these narrow archipelagos that littoral people will go. There is no need to rush there all the time at 45 knots. The service life of buildings in the ocean is set for them at 30 years. Modern shipbuilding technologies ...
                  1. pmkemcity 15 January 2020 19: 34 New
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                    Let's see, see ... It was also possible to speak of the Soviet ekranoplans.
                    1. shahor 16 January 2020 00: 18 New
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                      Quote: pmkemcity
                      It was also possible to speak of Soviet ekranoplans.

                      WIG ... did not happen. And these- plow open spaces. But you're right, wait and see.
                      1. pmkemcity 16 January 2020 07: 03 New
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                        How did the Sea Fighter saga end there?
                      2. shahor 16 January 2020 18: 19 New
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                        Quote: pmkemcity
                        Is there a Sea Fighter saga over?

                        As far as I know, nothing. As launched in 2008, that's all. This boat, in my amateurish opinion, has 2 shortcomings. This is the development of the United Kingdom (but what about import substitution in general) and displacement. 1600 tons - you can’t walk in the blue waters. And I wanted it then. I don’t know if he was carrying anything from air defense at all. And so, a 50 catch, very worthy of seaworthiness ... We would have been given PLO as a corvette, if given as humanitarian aid ... In general, the construction of the C fighter indicates that the appearance of the Independences and Friedoms was not accidental, US Navy was hatching the idea the construction of ships near the ocean (bad for them with the seas) zones with good seaworthiness. Built-and spat.
                      3. pmkemcity 17 January 2020 06: 25 New
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                        The philosophy of these ships "a la Soviet Union" - to build and throw. Look at the entire American fleet - extremely practical ships with a huge resource, which even after decommissioning, hang out for decades or serve the "young democracies."
                        I think that they will quickly end both the “left” and the “right” deviations in the “party”.
                      4. shahor 17 January 2020 11: 49 New
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                        Quote: pmkemcity
                        build and throw away.

                        I agree with you in evaluating the US Navy ships. About to throw out, would argue. The host vein does not allow them. Judge for yourself. Built Zumwalt-it turned out ... so-so. Well, do not give up. They are testing new technologies (the same SPY-6), they are pushing rocket launchers, well, there should be at least some benefit for such money. The same is with littoral ships. The fleet spit for a long time - and continues to do so, trying to turn ... into candy. Well, something turns out, something doesn’t.
                      5. pmkemcity 17 January 2020 11: 53 New
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                        Indulge and give coast guard for speedy drug delivery. Were "littoral", will become "polyoral" drinks
  • rocket757 14 January 2020 05: 35 New
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    . Commenting on the successful test launch of the rocket from the USS Gabrielle Giffords in October, US Navy Commander Rear Admiral Joey Tinch was proud that the Independence LCS with new weapons “gives potential opponents one more reason to stay awake at night

    The main thing is to convince YOURSELF !!! This Schaub himself sleep at night, calmly!
    And so, just one more missile, possibly good ..... and the enemy will have it no worse or will soon.
    By the way, it’s not a fact that the enemy has better !!!!
    How is the rear admiral sleeping? Is it calm?
    1. NIKN 14 January 2020 09: 17 New
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      I don’t understand why she doesn’t let her sleep at night? Is flying loud? wink
      1. rocket757 14 January 2020 10: 10 New
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        Quote: NIKNN
        I don’t understand why she doesn’t let her sleep at night? Is flying loud? wink

        Probably in a nook, when you sleep on your yacht, the rumble of such an object, above your head, can interfere ... relaxation !!! But in another way.
  • viktor_ui 14 January 2020 05: 45 New
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    Once again I draw attention to the fact that at a launching rocket from a container there is an extremely small exhaust through smoke ... level the unmasking sign of launch. In the optical and thermal imaging ranges, fixing the start will be difficult.
    1. pmkemcity 14 January 2020 06: 00 New
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      I meant “boxes” on the deck.
    2. letinant 14 January 2020 09: 14 New
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      And as for 185km. can you see the launch, even in smoke, even in the thermal imager? And at a shorter distance, it will glow like a Christmas tree.
    3. Vladimir_2U 14 January 2020 09: 33 New
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      Flash launch is usually determined.
      1. bk316 14 January 2020 12: 03 New
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        Do not confuse with SPRN?
        And even by sound laughing
    4. bk316 14 January 2020 12: 00 New
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      In the optical and thermal imaging ranges, fixing the start will be difficult.

      Are you kidding who now detects the launch of anti-ship missiles in optics SMOKE at over-the-horizon ranges? If only from the satellite ....
      But this is the little coastal ship, the satellites do not follow them.
      1. Vladimir_2U 14 January 2020 12: 13 New
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        Damn, the most ridiculous. Of course, I meant that on a flash, a missile launch is easier to detect than on smoke. BUT! For the purpose of launch not detect, and if intelligence is nearby? It seems like this :, commander, a flash of 180, maybe a missile launch, not for us. And the coordinates of the launch command. Of course, these are conditional negotiations, because the reconnaissance pilot will not chat with itself, but it can hang in the line of sight.
        1. bk316 14 January 2020 13: 29 New
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          In fact, a rocket for LCS will do just fine, because it is fish and fish without fish. laughing
          You look at what kind of ship LCS displacement as the patrol of project 1135.
          And there is no weapon to defend against anyone from the word at all 73 mm gun and all.
          Any RTOs will shoot him without fear and a missile boat too.
          Speed ​​of course hoo and autonomy and comfort.
          Those. to catch pure drug couriers, but with a crew of 100 people and a length and price as a normal corvette. And there is a terrible suspicion, and if the drug lord puts on the boat anti-tank systems .... belay
          So they decided to do at least something.
          1. shahor 14 January 2020 17: 56 New
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            Quote: bk316
            Any RTOs will shoot him without fear and a missile boat too.

            And how will such a boat be off the coast of the United States? And what, the American, seeing this live on the radar, will not be able to shoot it with a rocket? Is a pair of missiles from a helicopter to an MRK board good? These "coastal" ships become toothy. They should not be underestimated.
            1. bk316 14 January 2020 18: 30 New
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              And what, the American, seeing this live on the radar, will not be able to shoot it with a rocket?

              I wrote that this rocket is needed LCS BECAUSE WITHOUT HER THIS SHIP NO ROCKETS. Is it clear now?

              Is a pair of missiles from a helicopter to an MRK board good?

              He only drags one laughing And with a combat radius of sh-60 of 140 km, what are his chances of destroying caliber RTOs? One way flight? So the Americans are not accepted ....
              I wish they read the specifications before writing laughing
              1. shahor 14 January 2020 18: 53 New
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                Quote: bk316
                what are his chances of approaching caliber RTOs?

                Again. MRK is a ship of the near sea zone. Black, Baltic Sea. Well, generally next to it. Amers have no closed seas. There is the ocean. Their ship is the near ocean zone. With appropriate seaworthiness. And at what distance will the RTOs detect the Independence? How will he reach the archipelagos in the Pacific Ocean to the southeast of China, where he can meet an American. And target designation for RTOs? Is Caliber an absolute weapon? What advantage does it give RTOs compared to NSM? I’m not at all sure that RTOs carry Caliber in the RCC variant. If it is near the shore, there are Ball-bastions. And in the open sea, 4,5 points, that's all. And Freedom is a trimaran. In general, it's all fantastic. Compare red and cold. Ships are different in purpose and in the tasks performed.
                1. bk316 15 January 2020 11: 33 New
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                  I’m not at all sure that RTOs carry Caliber in the RCC variant.

                  Their ship is the near ocean zone. With appropriate seaworthiness.

                  I see no reason to correspond with you, there is no time to refute the nonsense.
                  I WILL REPEAT BEFORE WRITING STUDY STUDY and at least the conceptual apparatus of the topic about which you are writing.
                  1. shahor 15 January 2020 12: 36 New
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                    Quote: bk316
                    I WILL REPEAT BEFORE WRITING STUDY STUDY and at least the conceptual apparatus of the topic about which you are writing.

                    This applies to you first. The M60 pinwheel on the Independence carries more than one missile, as you write, it carries the Mk54 torpedo. And she carries 8 Hellfayer missiles. And the unspecified number of air-to-surface missiles of a different type. Turntables - 2, not one. Radar on the Independence Marine AFAR
                    Saab's Giraffe allows target designation over the entire NSM firing range. But you, as a connoisseur of TTX RTOs, tell me, how is target designation for firing an RTOs Caliber RCC? And how is the air defense of this schooner solved?
  • tlauicol 14 January 2020 05: 52 New
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    About 555km bent of course
    1. Mountain shooter 14 January 2020 06: 22 New
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      Bent of course ... from 3 to 185 km range. By GPS to the target area, and there the GOS in the IR range ... Warhead 120 kg. The weight of the rocket is 470. Subsonic. About the "Stealth" is not a word. Of course, a dangerous "toy", but not to sleep because of it?
      1. Nikolaevich I 14 January 2020 07: 07 New
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        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Bent of course ... from 3 to 185 km range

        This is a ship option ... you "forgot" about the aircraft ...!
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        About the "Stealth" is not a word.

        And the words that in the design of the RCC measures were taken to reduce radar, infrared visibility, you did not pay attention?
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Subsonic

        Rather, transonic ... Speed ​​up to M = 0,95 ... this, nevertheless, is not a "Khukhra-Mukhra"!
        1. Mountain shooter 14 January 2020 07: 15 New
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          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          !
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          About the "Stealth" is not a word.
          And the words that in the design of the RCC measures were taken to reduce radar, infrared visibility, you did not pay attention?

          Of course I did. And also the shape of the rocket, the shape of the nozzle ...
          Aviation option - range 280 ...
      2. Vladimir_2U 14 January 2020 08: 29 New
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        125 kilos, of which max 80-85 explosives, it’s dangerous for boats, smaller RTOs, corvettes already need a few pieces.
        1. Santa Fe 14 January 2020 09: 22 New
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          Imagine how many pieces are needed for a protected destroyer))))))

          Attacks are cheaper and easier than defenses, but the Yankees would have to rethink all weapons programs))))))))
          1. Vladimir_2U 14 January 2020 09: 32 New
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            Quote: Santa Fe
            but the Yankees would have to rethink all weapons programs

            I think that it’s not particularly, all the same littoral ships are not the basis of the US Navy, I suppose that the missile is installed as a means of self-defense, so that they would not be completely sloppy.
            1. Santa Fe 14 January 2020 09: 37 New
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              Of course, the rest of the planes and ships are equipped with something else, significantly superior in size to the NSM))))
              1. Vladimir_2U 14 January 2020 09: 39 New
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                So what is it, now even because of other missiles do not sleep ?! Well, at least they do not fear Hellfires.
                1. Santa Fe 14 January 2020 09: 42 New
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                  They do not have a large PCR, and all the equipment is designed for Harpoons and Nsm, for the extreme LRASM. The volley of which is comparable to the cost of the destroyer
                  1. Vladimir_2U 14 January 2020 10: 03 New
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                    That's right, the basis of the striking power of the U.S. Navy is aircraft carriers and, accordingly, air attack weapons.
                    1. Santa Fe 14 January 2020 10: 12 New
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                      Aviation the same ammunition
                      1. Vladimir_2U 14 January 2020 10: 14 New
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                        Japanese WWII pilots approve of your comment!
          2. tlauicol 14 January 2020 13: 15 New
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            what for ? we can’t build anything larger than an MRK, and the Chinese do not read your articles about armor, and rivet their destroyers, cruisers, protecting their air defense systems and ZAK
            1. Santa Fe 14 January 2020 13: 30 New
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              Well, the very first battle with the Japanese Navy for the disputed islands will quickly sober up and force to change approaches

              When a couple of expensive ships and hundreds of crew members die in 5 minutes, this method of warfare is unlikely to be acceptable.

              This is an example of a major maritime conflict of the 21st century. In its significance and influence on naval equipment it will surpass Tsushima and Jutland, taken together
              1. tlauicol 14 January 2020 13: 39 New
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                The first naval battle with the use of anti-ship missiles, as well as the subsequent ones, prompted the states to develop electronic warfare and air defense. General Secretaries and Presidents continued to cut armadillos, and new did not build
                1. Santa Fe 14 January 2020 13: 41 New
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                  Quote: Tlauicol
                  The first naval battle with the use of anti-ship missiles, as well as the subsequent ones, prompted the states to develop electronic warfare and air defense.

                  Air defense in the fight against RCC has not yet distinguished anywhere
                  EW is a great thing, but it won’t be a shame if the last 20th missile breaks through and burns a ship for $ 2 billion + unused expenditures per billion
                  1. tlauicol 14 January 2020 13: 52 New
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                    Silkworms were shot down in the bay.
                    About days will build a battleship and get a torpedo or supersonic, or shrike and bomb
          3. NEXUS 14 January 2020 15: 56 New
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            Quote: Santa Fe
            Imagine how many pieces are needed for a protected destroyer))))))

            It’s still necessary to approach the destroyer or frigate at the launch range ... yeah ...
            It’s not clear what this general was saying “not to sleep,” mumbled? fool
        2. Avior 14 January 2020 09: 42 New
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          It depends on what case
          It happens that the warhead of the PCR does not explode, there is enough remaining fuel in the engine for a strong fire that destroys the ship, as in the case of Sheffield or Monsoon.
          1. Vladimir_2U 14 January 2020 09: 57 New
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            There were enough finishes and aluminum alloys in the structures. In addition, Monsoon is just an RTO.
            1. Avior 14 January 2020 10: 06 New
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              Yes, but I write that even without the warhead explosion the ships died
              1. Vladimir_2U 14 January 2020 10: 12 New
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                Yes, but they remained afloat even in the explosion, the frigate "Stark" would not lie, and there was no aluminum in the structure.
                1. Avior 14 January 2020 10: 17 New
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                  True, but never combat ready
                  Finish after this - a matter of time
                  Americans generally practice at first an anti-aircraft missile attack due to the possibility of a strike in seconds, when hit, it loses combat readiness, and only then you can finish it off
                  1. Vladimir_2U 14 January 2020 10: 28 New
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                    Quote: Avior
                    True, but never combat ready
                    Exocet is twice as heavy as MNS.
                    Quote: Avior
                    Americans generally practice anti-aircraft missile attacks first

                    Are you practicing? No, there is such a tactic, I do not argue, but in my opinion the only real example of such a tactic is the sinking of Georgian boats by our ships, I don’t remember which ones.
                    1. Avior 14 January 2020 10: 29 New
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                      Operation Mantis, for example.
                      And other cases
                      1. Vladimir_2U 14 January 2020 10: 32 New
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                        Well, now in my opinion, there are two real-life examples of this tactic. )))
                      2. Avior 14 January 2020 12: 01 New
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                        There, the Iranians themselves shot at the Americans.
                        There was a case with the Libyans
                        Do you know a lot of cases of sea battle in recent years?
                        The Americans were preparing for this, this is their intended regime
                        https://topwar.ru/38905-zenitnoy-raketoy-po-korablyam.html
                      3. Vladimir_2U 14 January 2020 12: 03 New
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                        Yes, I did not really follow this.
  • thanks 14 January 2020 05: 55 New
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    Quote: Military Review * News
    NSM, developed by the Norwegian company Kongsberg Defense & Aerospace, is a long-range anti-ship missile capable of hitting targets at a distance from 185 to 555 km.

    Shooting range, km:
    185 km - maximum
    3 km - minimum
    http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/nsm/nsm.shtml

    Who to believe? On other sites D max = 185 - 200 km. Most likely a mistake in the news.
    1. Odysseus 14 January 2020 06: 13 New
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      Quote: Mersi
      Who to believe? On other sites, D max = 185 - 200 km. Most likely a mistake in the news.

      185-ship. 560-Joint Strike Missile version for the F-35. And such a range is only for a specific flight profile.
      1. SovAr238A 14 January 2020 07: 24 New
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        Quote: Odyssey
        Quote: Mersi
        Who to believe? On other sites, D max = 185 - 200 km. Most likely a mistake in the news.

        185-ship. 560-Joint Strike Missile version for the F-35. And such a range is only for a specific flight profile.

        And only on other fuel.
    2. Nikolaevich I 14 January 2020 07: 00 New
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      Quote: Mersi
      Who to believe? On other sites, D max = 185 - 200 km.

      Up to 185 km is a ship option! But there is an aviation option ... there should be more!
      1. Cruorvult 14 January 2020 07: 25 New
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        Yes, the hike depends on the starting height
      2. tlauicol 14 January 2020 07: 36 New
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        Jsm tactical cr, not pcr. How caliber and caliber are different rockets
  • Odysseus 14 January 2020 05: 57 New
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    Proud of the Norwegian rocket? Original smile
    Even more ridiculous is the thesis that the enemy will not sleep at night. When installed on littoral and with a maximum range of 185 km, the enemy most likely will not notice them.
    PS In the article, the inaccuracy of the maximum anti-ship range is -185. 560 is the range of aviation with a profile of high-high-low flight. This missile for the F-35 is really dangerous.
  • eklmn 14 January 2020 06: 27 New
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    For the curious:
    “The NSM is launched from a helicopter, F-35/22, or from a ship’s platform using a solid rocket accelerator that quickly accelerates the rocket to cruising speed. After a few seconds, the turbojet engine starts. NSM has a distance of just over one hundred nautical miles (180km).
    “Unlike supersonic rockets such as the Russian Onyx P-800 capable of Mach 2,5, the NSM remains well below supersonic speeds. Kongsberg, according to an industry spokesperson surveyed at the 2013 DSEI in London, England, believes in "smart missiles, not fast missiles." This philosophy created a completely different rocket than existing designs. Instead of trying to overcome the enemy’s defenses with a quick missile, Kongsberg made his missile more difficult to detect - and therefore more difficult to destroy.
    “The NSM was designed to be almost invisible - not entirely secretive, but Kongsberg made design decisions to reduce the missile’s radar signature. Other missile defense missiles, such as the American Harpoon and the French Exocet, are not secretive at all. The NSM flies low over the waves to stay away from enemy radars until the very last moment.
    “Most missile defense systems on the global arms market use active radars to focus on their goals. Despite its effectiveness, such a radar signal transmission provides defenders with yet another means of detecting an incoming missile using electronic support equipment. NSM uses passive imaging infrared sensors that do not emit an identifiable signal.
    “Passive countermeasures are not the only tools in the NSM toolkit. The missile is capable of maneuvering with high G in the terminal phase, which makes it difficult to predict its path. This is especially useful against melee weapon systems such as the Phalanx CIWS or the Chinese Type 730, which fire on predictable missile trajectories.
    “The moment before the strike, the autonomous recognition of the missile target seeks the enemy target group for an accurate ship to the target. In addition, Naval Strike Missile has the ability to select a target hit point, that is, it can be programmed to strike a specific part of a specific enemy ship, for example, a bridge. The 150-kg warhead has a programmable detonator that detonates when in contact with an enemy ship or deep inside its ship.
    “Rocket control or target change can be carried out both by the rocket itself and by the operator. Operators can change during the flight - launched by the ship / driven by the aircraft and vice versa. ”

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/see-missile-it-might-be-f-35s-favorite-weapon-92366

    I did not dig deep. Maybe some last options have a different range
    1. viktor_ui 14 January 2020 07: 10 New
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      “Rocket control or target change can be carried out both by the rocket itself and by the operator. Operators can change during the flight - launched by the ship / driven by the aircraft and vice versa. ” - any unit with the appropriate technical body kit can be used as a reference station for controlling a sim missile device with transmission to the next subscriber with a non-linear final plot for the opponent - it was very expensive in terms of flexibility.
  • rotmistr60 14 January 2020 07: 07 New
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    Let the adversary not sleep at night
    Now it’s clear why he does not sleep well before changing the weather. This is American rockets to blame.
    ... what outstanding results can be achieved by “a small team of very talented people in a very short time”
    Somehow deliberately arrogant. Are they there that according to one template developed by Trump, will they broadcast now? "Beautiful and beautiful rockets", "unsurpassed technology", "outstanding, talented, strongest, wisest" ....
    1. maidan.izrailovich 14 January 2020 08: 06 New
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      Somehow deliberately arrogant.

      If this is their answer to our Dagger, Petrel, Sarmatian and other Caliber, then this story can be told as a joke. lol
      1. donavi49 14 January 2020 09: 24 New
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        This is their answer to the X35 actually.

        In general, this is the most advanced and newest rocket in this class (light). She has it all. The only thing is that they did not screw up the breakthrough of the final section, after capturing the GOS on the accelerator in M ​​+++. But then, it would no longer be a light rocket (less than 1000 pounds).
      2. Vol4ara 14 January 2020 09: 46 New
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        Quote: maidan.izrailovich
        Somehow deliberately arrogant.

        If this is their answer to our Dagger, Petrel, Sarmatian and other Caliber, then this story can be told as a joke. lol

        What is a petrel?
  • Nikolaevich I 14 January 2020 07: 50 New
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    Actually, NSM’s anti-ship missiles are considered one of the best in their “class”! According to certain parameters, it is inferior to the Harpoon and X-35U anti-ship missiles; but in the aggregate it’s “ahead” ... In any case, the NATO military experts say so! However, I would like to note that the performance characteristics of the anti-ship missile systems of NSM are presented in the “tenth” years of our time ... It can be assumed that a more advanced version of NSM is currently being developed, just as the fact that the X- 35U ... X-35UE reaches a range of 260-300 km ... ANN is supplemented by GPS correction; active-passive radar seeker (it is possible to install a thermal imaging seeker). You can also read such data: the missile received fundamentally new qualities: four points of route change, the ability to bend around islands, attack targets in narrowness, fjords and the coastal strip. In addition, in some cases, the 59MK2 aviation tactical missile can be cited as an example of a "counterweight" ...
  • maidan.izrailovich 14 January 2020 07: 59 New
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    NSM, developed by Norwegian company Kongsberg Defense & Aerospace ...
    The production of rockets for US needs is entrusted to Raytheon.

    Who would doubt that. crying
    They made the norgs, and the American company will produce (and naturally earn).
    Dogs bones, the owner of the meat. lol
    1. donavi49 14 January 2020 09: 22 New
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      Well, why not? Taxes are made for themselves on the KDA. Americans for themselves - localized production. Norgs are pleased that they bought a license from them and those for 10005000 money. Everyone is happy.
  • Maks1995 14 January 2020 09: 59 New
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    They wrote here about her or something similar.
    Which is not bad ...
  • Ratmir_Ryazan 14 January 2020 13: 46 New
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    A missile is like a missile, in my opinion it’s something like our X-35 / X-35U (with a smaller ESR apparently) and it is put just on a littoral ship (a ship of the coastal sea zone) as we have X-35 / 35U on corvettes pr.20380.

    In the USA, the generals themselves seem to have lost their peace and sleep after setting up weapons in Russia with UKSK 3S14 ships with Caliber, Onyx and Zircon missiles.

    NSM is never a competitor to Onyx or Zircon.
    1. Nikolaevich I 15 January 2020 00: 45 New
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      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      A rocket is like a rocket, in my opinion something like our X-35 / X-35U

      RCC NSM, indeed, can be compared with RCC X-35 ... but better, with a modification of the X-35UE! The Kh-35UE is equipped with an ANN with satellite correction, an active-passive radar seeker (that is, passive guidance is possible ...), a thermal imaging seeker can be installed (if desired ...), measures have been taken to reduce radar visibility, one article claimed that:the missile received fundamentally new qualities: four points of route change, the ability to bend around islands, attack targets in narrowness, fjords and the coastal strip. (although doubts arise here; because in other articles these qualities were not "advertised" ...)
  • shahor 14 January 2020 17: 59 New
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    Quote: Tlauicol
    About 555km bent of course

    No. It is this modification that the Japanese bought for their aircraft. Therefore, I say, a headache for the Pacific Fleet.