Discusses US channel for moving Iranian General Suleimani’s data

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The name of the new commander of the Al-Quds forces of Iran (Corps of the Guards of the Islamic Revolution) is named. It was General Ismail Kaani.

Recall that General Kassem Suleimani was killed during an air raid, which the Americans carried out by personal order of Donald Trump in connection with the "danger to the American personnel in Baghdad."



The second victim of a strike by the US Air Force was the commander of the Shiite militia of Iraq - Al-Hashd al-Shaabi, Abu Mehdi al-Muhendis. According to recent reports, Suleymani and Muhendis were traveling in the same car.

The explosion also turned the second car column. It contained the personal guard of the commander of the Shiite militia. According to the latest information, a total of 10 people became victims of the American air strike.

The Pentagon stated that this is a “deterrent measure, which should provide food for thought to Tehran regarding its further actions in the region.”

Against this background, the channel of obtaining intelligence by the Americans about the movements of the Iranian general and the commander of Al-Hashd al-Shaabi in Iraq is being discussed. Experts, commenting on the incident, note that General Suleymani and Abu Mehdi al-Muhendis acted quite adventurously. In particular, we are talking about completely open movement in Iraq, and even in one car. It is assumed that information about the route of the Iranian general, along with the Shiite police commander, was transmitted to the Americans by one of the agents involved in US or Israeli intelligence in the same Al-Hashd al-Shaabi.

The US pointed out the fact that their intelligence has comprehensive information on the activities of the IRGC representatives in Iraq. For Iran, this is, first of all, an occasion to reflect on how secure is the information about the presence of Iranian generals in the territory of neighboring states. Based on this, Tehran should take measures. If appropriate measures are not taken, the new commander of the IRGC automatically turns into a target for the same aviation USA.
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  1. +4
    3 January 2020 16: 53
    Good all this does not end.
    1. +23
      3 January 2020 17: 21
      Quote: AlexGa
      Good all this does not end.

      Of course, this will not end, because mattresses do not need this. The more confusion and chaos in the world, the stronger the dollar, and therefore the pyramid that these muskrats created.
      1. +4
        3 January 2020 17: 28
        It is time for the Iranians to remind the United States of their 1980 Operation Eagle Eye. It looks like amers have a short memory.
        1. +2
          3 January 2020 17: 29
          Quote: SRC P-15
          It is time for the Iranians to remind the United States of their 1980 Operation Eagle Eye. It looks like amers have a short memory.

          And they, like Docent, I remember there, I don’t remember there.
        2. +1
          3 January 2020 19: 16
          ... it is “a deterrent that should give Tehran some thought to think about his future actions in the region.”

          It is high time to give the restraining measure to the United States, so that it will be dumped in-house !!! am angry soldier
    2. +3
      3 January 2020 18: 00
      let's see - this is close to declaring war (the states have evacuated their embassy)
      As an option, they can start hunting for Trump's relatives personally by past sabotage activities in Iraq and Syria and neighboring states.
    3. +6
      3 January 2020 18: 07
      Nothing where the West is involved ends in good
  2. +23
    3 January 2020 16: 55
    Now, as in chess, the Persians are obliged to give a tough response to the United States. There are no options, or a tough answer, or you will definitely be "eaten", and not the fact that the enemies!
    1. -79
      3 January 2020 16: 59
      Now, as in chess, the Persians are obliged to give a tough response to the United States. There are no options, or a tough answer, or you will definitely be "eaten", and not the fact that the enemies!
      And it would seem, what does the sovereignty have to do with it ?! Just think, what kind of Iraq is there, in whose affairs, some kind of Iran breaks into it ... Well, since it’s possible, why is it all against, when someone left gets into the affairs of the Russian Federation? Or double standards?
      PS That's serious! What kind of horseradish vegetable, on the official media (judging by the license) such as VO, discusses a similar topic, and even in the context of the fact that this is all normal? What kind of vegetable did this high-ranking vegetable from Iran make in Iraq? And what does all the laws have to do with a lawful attack on the embassy? Can residents of the Russian Federation chip in pensions for pensions to help Iran? Well, there they were offended like ...
      1. SSR
        +41
        3 January 2020 17: 09
        Quote: GibSoN
        What kind of vegetable did this high-ranking vegetable from Iran make in Iraq?

        In fact, they are neighbors with a common border, the security of one on the other is very great. If the igil in Iraq rises again and spreads to Iran?
        It was the United States that had a rocking test tube from another continent.
        So do not confuse the warm and soft. The United States, under false pretext, invaded Iraq, have they already found weapons of mass destruction there?
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          1. +16
            3 January 2020 17: 30
            Your words do hurt absolutely ... and good evening everyone ... take care of the letters and don’t waste the keyboard in vain .. does Iraq have sovereignty and statehood? That I beg of you .. and they are enemies because of the eternal Muslim showdowns and they put the Shiites and the Sunites after the fall of Baghdad and made up tight ranks of the Islamic State and, by the way, with pleasure they deprived Shiites of their heads .. this is what Sulemani did there. An absolutely adequate question is what did Russian volunteers do in Serbia in 1999 and Serbs in the Donbass in 2014.
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              1. +28
                3 January 2020 17: 38
                Quote: GibSoN
                After so many years of the Army’s war against its population?


                you completely disappoint me. why are you trying to make my head pregnant .. look at the statistics who made up the bulk of the IS bayonets, by the way, you can also find by state .. And yet, if you do not give a shit about a serite in another place
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                  1. +14
                    3 January 2020 17: 50
                    In fact, Google to help and the world media .. only according to our sources from the CIS, about 5000 bayonets made up the "population of Syria" from Britain about 300 from Germany about 200 exact figures I will not give I do not remember all this according to their own messages .. about the reliability? Well, I saw how the Kurds greeted the departing allies and how the Syrians throw rotten potatoes at the military police gumkonvoy .. I personally do not intend to prove something for this, except that you need to have ears and be able to hear, as well as have information from various sources and to compare. and then already scandals with the OPCW in Syria climb out and the founders of white helmets are learning to fly ... in general, something did not work out for someone in Syria.
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                      1. +16
                        3 January 2020 17: 58
                        Quote: GibSoN
                        In fact, you are utter nonsense!

                        This is a moot point ...
                        Quote: GibSoN
                        Because if you refer to the world media, Assad must sit for a long time ...

                        and it’s even better to stare at the sun like Hussein or Gaddafi and then hallelujah ... It's amazing how you manipulate warm and soft elevating chocolate with nuts to the rank. and you don’t bring arguments
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                      3. +6
                        3 January 2020 20: 32
                        Well, it seems that the Iraqi attacked the US embassy? After the US Air Force killed Iraqi citizens? Or is something wrong?
                    2. +5
                      3 January 2020 17: 58
                      Quote: vorobey
                      In fact, Google to help and the world media .. only according to our sources from the CIS, about 5000 bayonets made up the "population of Syria" from Britain about 300 from Germany about 200 exact figures I will not give I do not remember all this according to their own messages .. about the reliability? Well, I saw how the Kurds greeted the departing allies and how the Syrians throw rotten potatoes at the military police gumkonvoy .. I personally do not intend to prove something for this, except that you need to have ears and be able to hear, as well as have information from various sources and to compare. and then already scandals with the OPCW in Syria climb out and the founders of white helmets are learning to fly ... in general, something did not work out for someone in Syria.

                      Good health Buddy, on the site. hi And my personal respect. Yes
            2. +7
              3 January 2020 18: 03
              Quote: vorobey
              An absolutely adequate question is what did Russian volunteers do in Serbia in 1999 and Serbs in the Donbass in 2014.

              They fought against the Croatian and Ukrainian Nazis.
            3. +1
              3 January 2020 18: 05
              Sparrow, aka Alexander hi -happy New Year! Have not visited the site for a long time hi
              1. +7
                3 January 2020 18: 07
                Quote: Thrifty
                -happy New Year!


                Mutually, only good in the new year. drinks drinks
                1. +6
                  3 January 2020 18: 13
                  Well, where did the Marine go? drinks
                  Inaudible and invisible ... Dear ...
            4. +7
              3 January 2020 18: 24
              Quote: vorobey
              Your words do absolutely hurt ..

              Sasha do not torment yourself. You have not yet served your time, why are you nervous again? hi
              1. +10
                3 January 2020 18: 57
                Quote: Vadivak
                Quote: vorobey
                Your words do absolutely hurt ..

                Sasha do not torment yourself. You have not yet served your time, why are you nervous again? hi


                Oh, I beg you, Sema did make me a new passport, I was with a psychiatrist, he agreed that I was completely normal, I even looked at the language wassat wassat
                1. +4
                  3 January 2020 19: 08
                  Quote: vorobey
                  I was with a psychiatrist, he agreed for something entirely normal, I even looked at the language

                  Lucky recourse I’m still a psychiatrist girl at the medical board (about the price after the service ... there winked ) yelled
                  -You what ?! fool angry wassat
                  Happy New Feathered drinks
                  1. +5
                    3 January 2020 19: 12
                    Quote: Ruslan67
                    Lucky


                    just a psychiatrist Semin nephew, studied in absentia
                    Quote: Ruslan67
                    Happy New Feathered

                    Mutually, the brothers are glad to see everyone again. drinks drinks
                    1. +2
                      3 January 2020 19: 19
                      Quote: vorobey
                      psychiatrist Semin nephew, studied in absentia

                      At the locksmith? belay From you Normal as from the menu the tractor Belarus (I also don’t want to work request ) and that name was Volodya recourse
                      1. +9
                        3 January 2020 19: 27
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Quote: vorobey
                        psychiatrist Semin nephew, studied in absentia

                        At the locksmith? belay From you Normal as from the menu the tractor Belarus (I also don’t want to work request ) and that name was Volodya recourse


                        Quite offensive words you say Rusik. say thank you for voluntarily taking anger management courses. look around .. Trump on the springboard for a second term, Macron as a micron, Boriska in the kingdom, Vovka in the kingdom of Far Far Away, Duda bends to Angela that the old woman is already shaking with or without and as a result, I’m crazy .. tongue tongue
                      2. +3
                        3 January 2020 19: 33
                        Quote: vorobey
                        You say pretty offensive words

                        Quote: vorobey
                        say thank you for voluntarily taking anger management courses.

                        A mother-in-law would have better learned to manage, otherwise you now have it in our state tongue
                        Quote: vorobey
                        look around..


                        Oh, belay Well, why did you say that? sad
        2. +2
          3 January 2020 18: 16
          what do you prove to a vegetable that it is a fruit
      2. +21
        3 January 2020 17: 33
        Quote: GibSoN
        And it would seem, what does the sovereignty have to do with it ?!

        Who, besides you, in the article and in the comments above, said about Sovereignty? No one!

        Quote: GibSoN
        Just think, what kind of Iraq is there, into whose affairs, some kind of Iran breaks into it ... Well, since it’s possible, why is everything against it, when someone left gets into the affairs of the Russian Federation? Or double standards?

        We are talking about the adventurous actions of the United States, increasing confrontation in such an unstable region of the world.

        Quote: GibSoN
        PS That's serious! What kind of horseradish vegetable, on the official media (judging by the license) such as VO, discusses a similar topic, and even in the context of the fact that this is all normal?

        Then what the hell vegetable, your post is the third eight minutes later (just typing) after the publication of the article? fool

        Quote: GibSoN
        What kind of vegetable did this high-ranking vegetable from Iran make in Iraq?

        These are neighboring states! And what are Americans doing around the world? Oh, yes, they can, they are an "exclusive" nation ...

        Quote: GibSoN
        Can residents of the Russian Federation chip in pensions for pensions to help Iran? Well, there they were offended like ...

        Maybe we will throw ourselves off, but for the treatment of the brains of the authorities of the federal presidential republic, called - USA Yes
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          1. +9
            3 January 2020 18: 02
            Quote: GibSoN
            You are healthy?

            Quote: GibSoN
            Does this have any meaning for you personally?

            Quote: GibSoN
            Well, that is, you personally will not mind

            Well really winked

            Quote: GibSoN
            Have a snack already, after all!
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              1. +12
                3 January 2020 18: 06
                Quote: GibSoN
                Do not bother me to entertain those who are bored)

                Maybe you’re right, in the media and talk shows, without Slavikov Kovtun, the rating falls Yes
      3. 0
        3 January 2020 18: 09
        And it would seem, what does the sovereignty
        What sovereignty there since 2003 can be? lol
      4. +8
        3 January 2020 18: 16
        Quote: GibSoN
        And it would seem, what does the sovereignty have to do with it ?! Just think, what kind of Iraq is there, in whose affairs, some kind of Iran breaks into it ... Well, since it’s possible, why is it all against, when someone left gets into the affairs of the Russian Federation? Or double standards?
        Interesting claim. Is there evidence that Suleimani flew into Baghdad illegally? And actually, what is unnatural when a general of neighboring (!) Iran visits Iraq? I do not see evil. I note that Iraqi citizens also died, among them the leader of the Shiite militia - a legal structure with which until recently the Americans themselves interacted. What's wrong?
        1. -7
          3 January 2020 20: 20
          Quote: Abbot
          when does the general of neighboring (!) Iran visit Iraq? I do not see evil.

          BELIUM, BELIUS SAVSEM FURNERS laughing
          The IDF press service notes that the complex, created at the expense of the forces of Quds, was disguised as a villa with a swimming pool, park and outbuildings. On the territory of this estate was stored equipment designed to carry out terrorist attacks.


          Mohajer-class drones, capable of carrying several kilograms of explosives, are in service with the Houthis waging a war against Saudi Arabia and its allies in southern Yemen.
          "The preparation of the terrorist attacks was directed by Kassem Suleimani personally (commander of the Quds Forces), (PRAISE TO GOD!) - emphasized the chief of the general staff. “He provided funding and training for Shiite militants who were tasked with carrying out the attacks.”
          Commenting on the results of the operation, IDF Chief of Staff, Lieutenant General Aviv Kohavi, said: "We thwarted the attacks that the Quds Force planned to carry out against Israel from Syrian territory. The Iranians were going to send drones with explosives to Israeli targets."
          Unmanned aerial vehicles were delivered from Iran to Syria via the international airport in Damascus together with Iranian specialists who were preparing terrorist attacks with Shiite militants in a fortified complex in the village of Akraba south of the Syrian capital.
          The events that appeared on the video took place on August 22. On this day, the Quds Forces battle group, a special unit of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC), was preparing to launch attacking drones with explosive charges to strike northern Israel
          1. +5
            3 January 2020 20: 56
            Quote: Vitaly Gusin
            The IDF press service celebrates ...

            This is the same press service that talked about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, right?
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              1. +2
                4 January 2020 00: 03
                Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                This is still that service.
                From, you listen to these stories, but mine doesn’t need it.
      5. 0
        3 January 2020 19: 34
        They hurt you even at birth, they didn’t let you read the alphabet, to study history, teach, I advise ...
    2. -1
      3 January 2020 17: 08
      Quote: Thrifty
      There are no options, or a tough answer, or you will definitely be "eaten", and not the fact that the enemies!

      The main thing is to stick, and then they will devour them with giblets.
    3. +9
      3 January 2020 17: 11
      Yes, now not only Iranian generals should think about security, but also American and Israeli.
    4. 0
      3 January 2020 22: 27
      And what will the Persians answer ?? Vryatli they generally answer, because the hands are short. They will not attack US bases in Iraq. The United States and Israel have long dreamed of finding a reason to smash Iran. Most likely there will be a publicity campaign of revenge to save face. If Iran begins to respond harshly, for example, if they hail through the Iraqi bases in the United States, then Putin will tear him tearfully, asking them to hold their horses and sit down at the negotiating table. 2020 war awaits us
  3. +5
    3 January 2020 17: 00
    In fact, if they were driving in the same car, even if it is armored, this is a big mistake that cannot be fixed now! I hope that the new head of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) will not act so recklessly!
    1. +1
      3 January 2020 17: 06
      Quote: Thrifty
      In fact, if they were driving in the same car, even if it is armored, this is a big mistake that cannot be fixed now!

      So they completely owned the information.
  4. +4
    3 January 2020 17: 03
    There will be a fair answer, there will be. It is necessary to slap on playful, unpunished handles. That's just worrying about the consequences for the world.
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  5. +3
    3 January 2020 17: 04
    The Pentagon stated that this is a “deterrent measure, which should provide food for thought to Tehran regarding its further actions in the region.”
    The system of world intimidation. They make it clear who is the boss in the world and what will happen to the "naughty boys". Loose to the limit.
    1. +7
      3 January 2020 17: 08
      Quote: tihonmarine
      The Pentagon stated that this is a “deterrent measure, which should provide food for thought to Tehran regarding its further actions in the region.”
      The system of world intimidation. They make it clear who is the boss in the world and what will happen to the "naughty boys". Loose to the limit.

      I agree, my friend. Yes Need to answer.
    2. -30
      3 January 2020 17: 10
      The system of world intimidation. They make it clear who is the boss in the world and what will happen to the "naughty boys". Loose to the limit.
      That is, if we say to Khmeinim, they attack and overwhelm someone there, will you personally react in exactly the same way? Or have you personally taken the responsibility to decide who is right and who is not? At the same time, hiding behind the alleged legitimacy that you personally spat on in the event of Iran interfering in the affairs of Iraq?
      1. +14
        3 January 2020 17: 22
        Gibson - is not tired of playing the regional god of God? Israel, under the guise of protecting its security in the region, is doing nothing, and other countries mean "interfering in the internal affairs of their neighbors!" They decided to stuff the Japs not even with lead - radiation, but there is nowhere!
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          1. +15
            3 January 2020 17: 32
            Gibson - with what fright did you suddenly decide to fully Iraqi sovereignty, giving it to the United States "in the zone of influence" of the Yankees? And what does Iran not have? Persians exist much more than Anglo-Saxons, one of the oldest civilizations on the planet! And your Yankees are just a bad joke of Satan!
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          2. 0
            3 January 2020 18: 37
            Quote: GibSoN
            Mixed in a bunch .. people .. horses ... What are you rubbing at all? What does Israel have to do with it? (it is surprising that you still haven’t registered a Jew to me ..)?

            Well, here you are. Take it easy.
        2. +8
          3 January 2020 17: 30
          If you aren’t in the know, then in the United States they explain the Japanese nuclear genocide. Like a necessary measure on the basis of humane considerations. I had to sacrifice two peaceful cities in order to avoid more blood.
          1. +1
            3 January 2020 17: 54
            A nuclear strike on Japan (Hiroshima and Nagasaki), these flowers and the samurai could not scare. Prior to this, the bombing of the Japanese capital by the U.S. Air Force on March 10, 1945. The air raid involved 334 strategic B-29 bombers, each of which dropped several tons of incendiary bombs and napalm. As a result of continuous fires in residential areas built up with wooden buildings, a fire tornado formed, which did not allow the fight with fire and led to mass deaths. Killed at least 80 thousand inhabitants, the more likely number of deaths - over 100 thousand people. 14 bombers were lost.
            (during the nuclear bombardment of X and H, the death toll from the direct impact of the explosion ranged from 70 to 80 thousand people. By the end of 1945, due to the effects of radioactive contamination and other delayed effects of the explosion, the total death toll was from 90 to 166 thousand people. After 5 years, the total number of deaths, including deaths from cancer and other long-term effects of the explosion, could reach or even exceed 200 thousand people.
            The effect was achieved due to the relief favorable for the explosion. If we had not taken Manchuria with lightning speed (this seriously discouraged them), then the imperial family would have moved there and would have fought to the last Jap on the islands)
            1. 0
              3 January 2020 22: 09
              But you would read the appeal to the nation of the Japanese emperor in connection with surrender, and Manchu folk tales would not tell.
              1. -1
                4 January 2020 00: 49
                as I understand you have a chronology of the problem
    3. +3
      3 January 2020 18: 11
      Quote: tihonmarine
      The Pentagon stated that this is a “deterrent measure, which should provide food for thought to Tehran regarding its further actions in the region.”
      The system of world intimidation. They make it clear who is the boss in the world and what will happen to the "naughty boys". Loose to the limit.

      And what is wrong? Capitalism is this, not the one about which Chubais and Yeltsin "sang" to the simple-minded citizens of the Great Country. Now it remains to look from the outside and hope that they will not get to us.
      1. +1
        3 January 2020 18: 41
        Quote: Doliva63
        Capitalism is this, not the one about which Chubais and Yeltsin "sang" to the simple-minded citizens of the Great Country.

        Yes, these are already singing, so that even the wings have grown. And what really this "ism", we have already experienced.
        1. 0
          4 January 2020 17: 40
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Doliva63
          Capitalism is this, not the one about which Chubais and Yeltsin "sang" to the simple-minded citizens of the Great Country.

          Yes, these are already singing, so that even the wings have grown. And what really this "ism", we have already experienced.

          Experienced something, but not everyone has yet realized. I am afraid that while they "mature", the "partners" will already be eating up the Russian Federation.
          1. 0
            4 January 2020 19: 15
            Quote: Doliva63
            Experienced something, but not everyone has yet realized. I am afraid that while they "mature", the "partners" will already be eating up the Russian Federation.

            Yes, it’s hard to disagree with you. God forbid.
  6. +8
    3 January 2020 17: 04
    It is assumed that information on the route of the Iranian general, along with the Shiite police commander, was transmitted to the Americans by one of the agents involved in US or Israeli intelligence in the same Al-Hashd al-Shaabi.
    I will not be surprised if this information was delivered by agents of the same Israeli "Mossad".
    But still the murder of the commander of the IRGC special forces ... yeah. Interestingly, the Americans calculated this step well? Are you ready for an answer? After all, there are plenty of Americans all over the world, and some of them are engaged in "dark" affairs
    1. +3
      3 January 2020 17: 14
      Whether they have calculated everything and not about everyone, we don’t know the whole thing undercover, the answer will follow, but the blow to Russia is unequivocal. Yes
      1. +3
        3 January 2020 17: 17
        Quote: Rusland
        but the blow to Russia is clear

        And now what side will hook us?
        1. +3
          3 January 2020 17: 18
          Sergey, in terms of geopolitics hi
    2. +1
      3 January 2020 18: 42
      Quote: svp67
      Interestingly, the Americans are well calculated this step? Are you ready for an answer?

      I think no. Recently, they have not at all burdened themselves with thought and have shown complete insanity. The Iranians have a fairly wide range of answers, which will certainly follow and will not be limited to the region.
  7. 0
    3 January 2020 17: 10
    Where is the discussion? What kind of experts? Who involves the transfer of information?

    Not seriously. And for a long time. Think about it ...
  8. 0
    3 January 2020 17: 14
    Discusses the channel of obtaining intelligence by the Americans about the movements of the Iranian general and commander ..

    Straight riddle of the century ... sign up for Inmarsat services and sleep peacefully ...)
  9. +1
    3 January 2020 17: 15
    It is necessary to calculate the mole ... what
    1. -3
      3 January 2020 17: 30
      Quote: Connor Macleod
      It is necessary to calculate the mole ..

      Do you feel sorry for Shtirlitsa? Ibn Stirlitz sits for himself and hawks the Sabih, and here Abu Hmar comes and asks: Have you passed Muandez? Ibn Stirlitz realized that he had never been so close to failure because all the patriots mentally caught him.
      1. -1
        3 January 2020 17: 47
        Quote: herev15
        Do you feel sorry for Shtirlitsa?

      2. +5
        3 January 2020 17: 55
        Quote: herev15
        Quote: Connor Macleod
        It is necessary to calculate the mole ..

        Do you feel sorry for Shtirlitsa? Ibn Stirlitz sits for himself and hawks the Sabih, and here Abu Hmar comes and asks: Have you passed Muandez? Ibn Stirlitz realized that he had never been so close to failure because all the patriots mentally caught him.

        - Inta America? - Shtirlitsa asked sternly Abdurahman Ahul Sharmut from Muhabarat
        “Luo, Ana Yahudi,” Stirlitz answered fearfully.
        So Yitzhakov got caught ..
  10. +4
    3 January 2020 17: 19
    US point strikes demonstrated the fact

    that political assassinations, reprisals against citizens of other countries on the territory of third countries, terror and war crimes are the methods of "reference democracy" today. Those who consider this unacceptable know who they should fight against
    1. -15
      3 January 2020 17: 39
      Tell us, how else should democracy fight terrorists?
      And what does democracy have to do with intelligence?
      Democracy is, first of all, the internal structure of the state.
      Democracy does not prohibit the existence of armed forces, and even more so, democracy does not prohibit the elimination of terrorists.
      First you yourself, specially
      idealize democracy, and then try to prove that democracy is imperfect.
      There is democracy in the US, and Trump is a direct confirmation of this. He was elected contrary to the opinion of most elites, the largest American media constantly poured shit on him, all experts predicted Trump’s election defeat, but ordinary Americans chose Trump. This is democracy.
      The liquidation of Suleymani is the work of special services and it does not in any way refute the existence of democracy and democratic institutions in the United States.
      No need to mix different things.
      1. -4
        3 January 2020 18: 22
        There is democracy in the US, and Trump is a direct confirmation of this. He was elected contrary to the opinion of most elites, the largest American media constantly poured shit on him, all experts predicted Trump’s election defeat, but ordinary Americans chose Trump. This is democracy.

        Trump chose Putin's computer trolls.
        This is known all over the world.
        This is known to the US Congress.
        Trump, on the grounds that he was a protege of a foreign state (read Putin), was impeached.
        And you do not know?
      2. +3
        3 January 2020 18: 32
        As a consequence of your words, leaders such as Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Salazar were also democratically elected leaders.
        In the modern world, where the United States is still considered the standard (!!!) by mistake, the internal structure is for some reason transferred to foreign policy.
        Those. democratic elections within a country should automatically ensure compliance with democratic norms of behavior in relation to other states.
        And this misconception is expensive for the rest.
        1. -4
          3 January 2020 19: 49
          Better let feudal Russia or communist China be the standard, I understand you.
          You never answered how the work of the special services relates to democracy.
          1. +1
            3 January 2020 20: 09
            Logically, democracy is the expression of the will of the people, aimed at ensuring freedoms and observance of the law, of citizens, which ensures (ideally) the existence of such state institutions that put this at the forefront, rather than momentary or strategic tasks.
            Let me explain.
            Suppose
            In a democracy, the United States is a democracy.
            One of the state institutions - the CIA or the Pentagon, are required to adhere to those state principles that are spelled out in the US Constitution or federal laws.
            In fact, everything looks different.
            The state allows its institutions to live an independent life, without regard to internal laws.
            Compliance with the law is territorial, i.e. where the organization is "registered".
            The obvious conclusion suggests itself.

            A state that does not suppress or indulges its bodies to commit unlawful acts outside its jurisdiction cannot be considered democratic.
          2. 0
            3 January 2020 22: 07
            Democracy, like any form of government, is a form of oppression of people, depending on who is in power! Hitler and Mussolini are vivid examples of personalities destroying peoples, in the United States now there is not a person in power (although who knows, maybe Emperor Palpatine has ruled there for a long time), but a certain community that uses DEMOCRACY as a way to gain POWER, not only in the USA, but throughout the world and special services in the service of these people, in any case in the BV and a lot where still do not protect people, but EXTEND THEIR AUTHORITY AROUND THE WORLD! hi
      3. 0
        3 January 2020 18: 45
        Quote: maden.usmanow
        Tell us, how else should democracy fight terrorists?

        First you need to establish what democracy is. And who should fight with whom.
  11. 0
    3 January 2020 17: 25
    Trump must have conceived this blow, for him the assassination of Suleymani is manna from heaven, now it will be difficult for the democrats to accuse him of ties with Russia and indulging the enemies of America
    1. 0
      3 January 2020 18: 47
      Quote: karabass
      for him, the murder of Suleymani is manna from heaven, now it will be difficult for the democrats to accuse him of ties with Russia

      And the rating before the election rises.
    2. 0
      3 January 2020 19: 00
      I do not think
      Soon set him up
      This is not a victorious war, but a potential disassembly of the Vietnamese type
    3. +1
      3 January 2020 19: 04
      Quote: karabass
      Trump must have conceived this blow, for him the assassination of Suleymani is manna from heaven, now it will be difficult for the democrats to accuse him of ties with Russia and indulging the enemies of America

      As for me, it's the other way around ... Some of the Democrats framed Republican Trump well by instilling in him the idea of ​​the need to eliminate Soleimani. The success of the operation (except for the presence of corpses) in terms of the further development of success is not at all obvious, but the coming hemorrhoids are incredibly rich for Americans. The failed impeachment that the Democrats pumped against Trump, with all the dirt on the Democratic presidential contenders, immediately fade into the background, and now Trump is in the foreground with his personal responsibility for everything that happens in the near future. D. Biden's smile never leaves his face. It can be seen that he is incredibly happy for the "friend" Donald.
  12. +3
    3 January 2020 17: 30
    The reaction of the “world community” to outright aggression is indicative.
    Show restraint. Strongly 38th recalls.
    Only the other way.
    1. -16
      3 January 2020 17: 46
      The assault on the American embassy in Baghdad, is this not aggression?
      This has already happened in Benghazi. The American ambassador died.
      You need to think a little when you send a thousandth crowd to a foreign embassy.
      Trump held back until the last, how many Persians have already done in the past year? And you remember.
      The attack on the embassy was the last straw.
      1. +2
        3 January 2020 18: 50
        Quote: maden.usmanow
        Trump held back until the last, how many Persians have already done in the past year? And you remember.

        I remembered that today I saw Trump with a halo on his head on the wings above the barn rise. Well, I told him "Will you take a donik from your throat?" Refused, elections are coming soon.
      2. -1
        3 January 2020 18: 51
        How many?
        This is a response to the presence of "outsiders" in their native country.
        Russia it took place in Afghanistan.
        And the crowds and the killings
      3. +2
        3 January 2020 20: 43
        You need to think a little before killing the citizens of the country in which your embassy is located.
    2. 0
      3 January 2020 18: 45
      In addition
      UN Secretary General: the world can not allow another war in the Persian Gulf.
      Actually, the conclusion is that the world cannot, but the states can. Maybe it’s time for the WORLD to pack up and give this gopnik the US “on the ears.”
  13. 0
    3 January 2020 17: 41
    Where from where, again bought someone ..... while the Americans have a printing press .......
    1. -3
      3 January 2020 18: 13
      Not necessary. A person can also collaborate for ideological reasons. It may well be someone offended by the Islamic Revolution, relatives have suffered or something else ...

      In any case, it is necessary to analyze all attacks on Iranian targets and check all who had access to information and calculate ...
  14. 0
    3 January 2020 17: 44
    America needs a war with Iran, but Iran is not on the verge. The murder of a general is an occasion. Did the World War I begin?
    1. -10
      3 January 2020 17: 50
      Which America? What kind of war?
      Congress did not know about the operation at all.
      Trump does not need a war with Iran before the election. And he talked about it a hundred times.
      Trump wanted to scare the Persians after the attack on the embassy.
      1. +1
        3 January 2020 18: 52
        Quote: maden.usmanow
        Which America? What kind of war?

        Well, not South America, but North!
        1. 0
          3 January 2020 19: 47
          The US Congress did not know about the attack.
          Trump does not need a war with Iran.
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  15. -1
    3 January 2020 17: 57
    As I understand it, this is the answer of mattresses for shelling their base and the death of an American soldier ?. Well, if the IRGC and Sulejmani were involved in this, what did they expect Christmas gifts from Trump?
    1. +4
      3 January 2020 18: 16
      Quote: Seaflame
      As I understand it, this is the answer of mattresses for shelling their base and the death of an American soldier ?. Well, if the IRGC and Sulejmani were involved in this, what did they expect Christmas gifts from Trump?

      And they were involved, right?
      1. +3
        3 January 2020 18: 59
        Quote: Doliva63
        And they were involved, right?

        Now no one proves the involvement, now they simply "appoint" the guilty party.
  16. +6
    3 January 2020 18: 05
    So. And we in the Donbass can some sort of Ukrainian high-ranking admirer of Bandera bang airstrike? And refer to the American experience?
    1. +1
      3 January 2020 18: 15
      Support!
    2. 0
      3 January 2020 18: 17
      We can. But who will have the courage?
    3. +1
      3 January 2020 19: 00
      Quote: Sagaidark
      And refer to the American experience?

      It is possible, but the "progressive" will squeal like a collective farm pigsty.
  17. 0
    3 January 2020 18: 10
    Israel most likely destroyed them, and the Americans took it upon themselves - what will become of them, Iran and Shiite militias will not reach America, but Jews like
  18. 0
    3 January 2020 18: 12
    The US pointed out the fact that their intelligence has comprehensive information about the activities of the IRGC in Iraq.
    Identify the source and tear the skin alive from it. And with his immediate family.
    So that others can see and it’s not right for them.
    1. 0
      3 January 2020 18: 15
      God grant ... Allah ...
    2. 0
      3 January 2020 19: 01
      Quote: demo
      that their intelligence has comprehensive information on the activities of representatives of the IRGC in Iraq.

      That’s all the evidence. And who would doubt it.
  19. +2
    3 January 2020 18: 13
    and the mind is not subject to the hell he trampled into the country occupied by the Yusovites
    1. 0
      3 January 2020 18: 17
      This is the most interesting question!
  20. -2
    3 January 2020 18: 25
    and what can mattresses do if they get some kind of answer right now?
    1. -1
      3 January 2020 18: 41
      Quote: twincam
      and what can mattresses do if they get some kind of answer right now?

      It depends on what kind: if somewhere near the shores of Yemen some frigate will fly into a mine, then this is within the rules of the game; the answer is nothing. If they withdraw from the uranium enrichment treaty, then the United States will most likely be happy: there will be another reason to strike Israel’s hands. If Iran goes all in and strikes in the Gulf, they will have to react. In general, there are a lot of options ...
      1. +2
        3 January 2020 23: 05
        I don’t know how you determined that undermining the American frigate would lead to nothing. But the applicant was already
        On April 14, 1988, the American frigate Samuel B. Roberts, being in neutral waters, was blown up by a sea mine, 10 sailors were injured.

        And this led to Operation Mantis
        The result for the Iranians is
        1 frigate sunk (45 killed [1])
        1 missile boat sunk (11 killed [1])
        3 speed boats sunk
        1 frigate damaged
        2 platforms are damaged
  21. +1
    3 January 2020 18: 32
    There is such a suspicion that when Trump was told who had died, he exclaimed: "Wow: we got it!"
  22. +1
    3 January 2020 20: 02
    My opinion. The IRGC did not make a special secret from a trip to visit Abu Mehdi al-Muhendis on his head - General Suleymani. General Suleymani was driving in the same car with Muhendis, to protect Muhendis himself. The commander of the IRGC did not calculate that he was a target, not Abu Mehdi.
  23. 0
    3 January 2020 20: 15
    Better tell me why on this site Iranian terrorists are publicly supported, who in addition are radical Islamic fanatics? May the United States continue this sacred mission, we better
    1. +2
      3 January 2020 22: 35
      Of the two evils, choose the lesser! hi The USA is a world-wide evil capable of destroying the world! They do not allow many to live as they want, they maintain the world order in the state of the 18th century, when people die for their gold (dollars), the world does not live by unity, but by the rule: divide and conquer! Actually, in the 21st century, people expected other rules of the world order! Iran is more a victim than a danger!
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        1. +1
          3 January 2020 23: 37
          What is the conclusion? what
          If you feel bad about the USA, then a communist! laughing
          This is a stamp. belay
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            1. +1
              3 January 2020 23: 48
              Evaluate the chances of the Russian army against the USA + NATO and Iran + possible jihadists! Who do you think is easier to handle? And who influences our life more? And then conclude which of the lesser evils! hi
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                1. -1
                  4 January 2020 00: 43
                  Quote: point3d
                  man essentially has a slave mentality and he needs a master,

                  And who are you yourself? Slave or master?
                  1. -1
                    4 January 2020 00: 47
                    I am the one who does not laugh at the stupid joke of the boss and does not respect a person because his car is more expensive))
                    1. -1
                      4 January 2020 00: 50
                      Quote: point3d
                      and does not respect a person because his car is more expensive

                      I don’t have a car at all. What's next?
                      1. -1
                        4 January 2020 01: 11
                        Further depends on the mentality.
                        The reactions mainly to this will be such. 1 - Indifference. 2 - Approval. 3 - Contempt.
                        Let me tell you, a free person will have reaction number 1))
                      2. +1
                        4 January 2020 01: 19
                        Quote: point3d
                        Let me tell you, a free person will have reaction number 1))

                        Oh, got it! So you consider yourself a free person ... laughing
                        Well, I’ll throw reaction number four - you are a stupid clown. Yes
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                2. +1
                  4 January 2020 00: 49
                  If we are talking about evil, then for the worse. We look specifically at Russia, the United States imposes sanctions against us and forces other countries to support them, this in any case reduces our opportunities, because cooperation can achieve much more than on our own! The constant military threat diverts resources for defense much more than we would like, which again distracts from development. Where the United States cannot influence with a “kind word”, they use force directly or indirectly through radicals of various stripes, again making us react in a military way, and this is human life and our security, which is constantly under threat! And at the moment there is no effective tool to force the US to stop shitting on us, and for the most part! Russia's losses from the fight against the United States directly affect the lives of citizens, for the worse! ... I clearly explained?
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                    1. +1
                      4 January 2020 01: 25
                      You take the conversation the other way! like the USA, go there, realize your business potential laughing
                      With regard to civilization, at the moment the United States is no longer a source of technology, without them there are enough ideas in Russia, by the way, too! Russia offers the world self-determination of its development path; we are not capable of imposing anything. USA today the world is just slowing down
                      1. -1
                        4 January 2020 01: 37
                        That is, there is nothing to answer you.
                      2. 0
                        4 January 2020 13: 28
                        There is nothing for you to answer! ... I tell you about the influence of the USA on the world, and you tell me about the wonderful life in the USA! fool I am happy for the Americans that everything is fine there, it is important for me that they would not interfere with my life! And they interfere not only with me, but with many, now the United States offers the world only submission to American interests, which are very at odds with the interests of other peoples! ... what the United States is now offering to humanity: in order to support the US military-industrial complex, they are dispersing the arms race, to rock up their shale industry, they staged a bloody provocation in Ukraine, so as not to have market opportunities to push Russia out of the European energy market, at the same time undermine the EU’s economy by pushing energy into the trident, the United States unleashes trade in oyna with everyone! They are spreading terrorism on the planet, with the aim of destabilizing competitors and such examples are massive ... and here I am a resident of Russia, from whom the United States sculpts a monster in the eyes of the world and calls on the world to prepare for war with us, why admire it? In my eyes, the USA is evil!
                    2. 0
                      4 January 2020 01: 34
                      Quote: point3d
                      Specifically, Russia and the United States. Let's get a look.
                      The United States is the development of technology, this is scientific discovery, it is an opportunity for a citizen to realize his scientific or business potential, this is, after all, a constitution that has been operating since 1787, and much more.

                      Well, let me tell you what the United States means to Russia. The USA for Russia means at least 30 years of demographic crisis, economic recession, humiliation in the international arena, endless lies in the media, support for terrorists within the country and Russophobic regimes in the near abroad, endless sanctions, blocking of strategic energy projects, support for warring parties in military conflicts in the Middle East and so on and so forth ...

                      Quote: point3d
                      Now tell me what Russia can offer civilization in order to go up the evolutionary ladder?

                      I do not know what Russia can offer Civilizations. I know that Russia can offer the United States. Russia USA can offer PAYMENT HOUR...
                      1. -6
                        4 January 2020 01: 48
                        Hasn't the United States already paid off, for example, with "Bush's legs", when the USSR collapsed from overstrain and people had nothing to eat, since all the money was spent on helping the "fraternal peoples", who then did not even consider it necessary to return part of their debts to Russia?
                      2. 0
                        4 January 2020 02: 11
                        Of course, we didn’t forget about Bush’s legs. We will definitely return them to you ...

                        When, after the American strike, Iran spreads the Saudi’s oil infrastructure with ballistic missiles and begins to supply the Taliban with the latest weapons, as a result of which the Americans fly home in zinc, the United States will be forced to enter a full-scale war, only to run into Chinese aircraft carrier groups and face a difficult the choice of either accepting a humiliating defeat and retreating or getting a devalued dollar. And when the Americans choose the second, remembering the humiliation in Syria, the Chinese will drop all their treasuries and cash bucks, as a result, the dollar will begin to rapidly devalue against all currencies. Inflation in the United States will reach three-digit numbers and store shelves will quickly become empty.

                        That's right, then we will send Bush's legs back to you ...
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                      4. -1
                        4 January 2020 02: 38
                        Quote: point3d
                        Cool. Only China does not need US territory, namely, the territory of Russia))

                        Well, why the hell does China need some Arctic territories belonging to the country with the largest nuclear arsenal in the world?

                        Quote: point3d
                        Moreover, China cannot abandon its treasuries, learn at least such basic things.

                        Yes, I’m just the same economist by profession and I know what I'm talking about. China not only can but is actively getting rid of American treasurers. He just does it slowly and gradually, instead of doing it immediately and quickly ...

                        Quote: point3d
                        Next, China lose dollar, so what? Nothing, nothing at all for the USA, but the Chinese will have to do something with a hundred other millions of their unemployed.

                        The Chinese have the largest foreign exchange reserves in the world - over three trillion mainly in dollars and dollar-denominated assets. Do you know how much the USA has? 130 billion laughing

                        Even rumors that China wants to get rid of the dollar will already cause a collapse in the foreign exchange market ...
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                      6. -1
                        4 January 2020 03: 41
                        Quote: point3d
                        This is you telling fables about the clashes between China and the United States for which there are no less nuclear charges.

                        When did I say that China has claims to the United States? What are you talking about?

                        Quote: point3d
                        And like any not, if they will fight with a nuclear power, then first of all for the lands that they consider to be theirs, and these lands are with Russia.

                        All territorial disputes between the Russian Federation and China have long been resolved.

                        Quote: point3d
                        So gets rid of that he buys more and more? )))

                        I recommend to read:

                        www.ft.com/content/0933cdfa-7766-11e9-be7d-6d846537acab

                        Quote: point3d
                        You are an economist, as you say, and you should know that the Chinese economy is export-oriented in the first place, therefore, the NBK has always created and is creating a deficit of dollars in his country, which maintains the dollar exchange rate at a high level, otherwise no one will need their goods .

                        You know the tales about the "Dutch disease" The IMF can rub the African aborigines. In practice, China is heavily dependent on imported raw materials, a strong yuan means cheap raw materials. Not to mention the fact that if China begins to exchange dollars for currencies of other countries, then the rates of these currencies will rise and the purchasing power of these countries will also increase, respectively, the demand for Chinese products will be provided.

                        Quote: point3d
                        Gold is just metal, which has real value in industry, in fact, all other value is only mental convulsions of the past savagery.
                        And the US dollar is untied from gold, and one American company such as Apple, just this company alone, is worth more than all the gold mining companies of China and Russia combined.

                        Listen you do not speak to me teeth! Answer the question - how will the Fed with $ 130 in reserves in the event of an economic war beat the NBK with $ 3 000 000 000 000?
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                      9. 0
                        4 January 2020 18: 06
                        Quote: point3d
                        Hasn't the United States already paid off, for example, with "Bush's legs", when the USSR collapsed from overstrain and people had nothing to eat, since all the money was spent on helping the "fraternal peoples", who then did not even consider it necessary to return part of their debts to Russia?

                        Admit you are a troll? Forgive me, nobody wrote such nonsense here for a long time.
                      10. -1
                        4 January 2020 18: 56
                        I would love to talk to you, but my answers do not pass the price of "correct thinking" and are deleted. So it makes no sense.
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    2. 0
      4 January 2020 07: 38
      I am the same against supporting any terrorist group. I emphasize-Any. But for someone the Kurds are terrorists, for someone the closest allies (were). And vice versa. And the "sacred mission", no matter how you justify it, is banal terrorism, which is only becoming the most powerful state so far. Which puts the US leadership on a par with the ISIS leadership. Only on opposite sides of the situation.
  24. 0
    3 January 2020 20: 24
    Quote: maden.usmanow
    The assault on the American embassy in Baghdad, is this not aggression?

    And what did you do in Ukraine regarding our embassy? And somehow it all got away with ukronatsikam ... Maybe in Ukraine bombing based on your reasoning?
    1. -2
      4 January 2020 06: 32
      Storming the embassy aggression?
      Yes or no?
  25. -1
    3 January 2020 21: 12
    The Iraqi guys handed them all over ... but the Americans opened another "pandora's box" again. Let's see what they find there!
  26. +1
    3 January 2020 21: 58
    Trump gave the command to kill the citizens of Iran and Iraq. This is scary. Trump gave the order for trans national sanctions and they are being enforced. Trump knows better than Europe what gas it needs. In the United States, Russian citizens are extradited from any country in the world to trial and prison, like any citizen of any country. The correct phrase is "world gendarme". Let's look at the development of events. And let's not forget that Iran is our neighbor. With our other neighbor, the DPRK has not yet worked out ...
  27. 0
    3 January 2020 22: 56
    They can fill up Shoigu like that. Absolutely fucked up.
    1. 0
      4 January 2020 18: 22
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      They can fill up Shoigu like that. Absolutely fucked up.

      Shoigu is a man of the "family", the Yankees will not touch him. In general, they cannot "blame" such people - what if the people decide to cancel the results of privatization, who will stand guard over democratic values? I can even assume that they will try to push him into the presidency of the Russian Federation.
  28. 0
    4 January 2020 04: 51
    Quote: Thrifty
    Now, as in chess, the Persians are obliged to give a tough response to the United States. There are no options, or a tough answer, or you will definitely be "eaten", and not the fact that the enemies!

    Eat without options ...
  29. -4
    4 January 2020 04: 55
    Quote: Nikolai Aleksandrovich
    Trump gave the command to kill the citizens of Iran and Iraq. This is scary. .

    Why weren’t you afraid when half a million people died in Syria, one of the killers of which was General Suleymani ..
    1. +1
      4 January 2020 07: 42
      What about Libya?
    2. 0
      4 January 2020 18: 28
      Quote: alta
      Quote: Nikolai Aleksandrovich
      Trump gave the command to kill the citizens of Iran and Iraq. This is scary. .

      Why weren’t you afraid when half a million people died in Syria, one of the killers of which was General Suleymani ..

      Do not trifle. How many millions died in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya? Among their killers are US presidents. Are you still not scared? Then next, perhaps, will bomb your city.
  30. 0
    4 January 2020 10: 16
    Trump any bestial methods into the vein, just to have more work places for his "great" America ...
  31. 0
    4 January 2020 13: 41
    What’s interesting is the assassination of Kassem Sulejmani, this is how the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand can be a trigger for World War III!
  32. 0
    4 January 2020 17: 10
    the United States will revolt yes use nuclear weapons in Iran, that's all and who will stop them? Yes, in fact, not who the whole economy of the countries is tied to the United States) once hit ishe will hit once)
    1. 0
      4 January 2020 18: 35
      Quote: opuonmed
      the United States will revolt yes use nuclear weapons in Iran, that's all and who will stop them? Yes, in fact, not who the whole economy of the countries is tied to the United States) once hit ishe will hit once)

      After 91, it seems, there is no one to stop them. But. After all, the "tobacco" can rebel if they are seriously afraid that their "sherkhan" has gone mad. This is probably the only deterrent. But if they find a consensus, they can use nuclear weapons - now there is no one to deploy missiles in Cuba.
  33. 0
    5 January 2020 08: 39
    the United States is playing with fire if the Americans tuck in there then there will be mountains of corpses of Americans sent home, Iran is supported by many countries of the Middle East that will forget about their feuds against a common enemy, and nobody likes Israel there, which I also don’t want at all. The situation is such that it could blow up the entire Middle East region