Gains and losses of Ukrainian military aviation in 2019

In the publication of the Ukrainian Military Pages, information appeared on manned aircraft, which are on the balance of state structures for ensuring the security and defense of Ukraine. The data on the revenues and losses of aircraft and helicopters of various power structures were analyzed.

It is reported that on the balance of the Air Force and the Army aviation The ground forces received 15 aircraft and 4 helicopters. Losses amounted to three helicopters and one training aircraft. It's about Mi-2MSB, Mi-8 and L-39.

3 helicopters and one transport aircraft An-2 received the Navy. The National Guard was replenished with one multi-purpose helicopter. Two more multi-purpose helicopters received the Ministry of Emergencies.

Among the replenishment aircraft are 2 Su-27s, one Su-24M bomber, one modernized Su-25M attack aircraft, two Il-76MD transporters.

Since the publication used information from open, primarily official, sources, all quantitative indicators should be understood as “at least”. It is also necessary to take into account that not one of the aircraft received on the balance is new. The military received domestic repaired and in some cases modernized equipment. The rest of the structures bought planes and helicopters abroad, moreover, used and overhauled before the sale.

In addition, the military received a large number of unmanned aerial vehicles, in particular, Turkish ones.

For the future, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is considering the possibility of purchasing aircraft and helicopters manufactured in the USA and Brazil.

Comments

[30hgsa]

As I understand it, they each year write down the vehicles withdrawn from the troops, repaired, painted and returned to service as "receipts". Those. the total number of aircraft is not growing much, but each average repair is recorded as "put into the army". Cunning, in Ukrainian. It is unlikely that in the post-Soviet space there is a country that has mastered the art of ostentation more than Ukraine.

[The leader of the Redskins]

You don’t understand correctly ... According to Ukrainian media, first of all, the planes returned from the Crimea are returning from the media. Which are not like without toilets - with cut cables were transferred.

[30hgsa]

I didn’t know that your Ukrainian planes did not fly without toilet bowls. I'll know.

[The leader of the Redskins]

My? You don't seem to know a lot. Especially about the VO forum participants. And "toilets" ... There is either your lack of knowledge about technology from Ukraine, or lack of a sense of humor.

[dinis]

I think it is extremely unlikely that the planes from Crimea transferred by Russia to Ukraine were repaired by Ukrainians and put into service.

[Pete mitchell]

Of course, I understand that the Internet depersonalizes, but before reproaching someone for not knowing the language, think about what and how you want to say. The art of discussion has not been canceled.

Quote: Senya Sem

that the cables on the plane weigh on the poles, that they can just be taken and cut?)))

Teach a materiel before speaking out

[Terenin]

Data on Stalingrad ...
... When Field Marshal Paulus surrendered, all the airfields inside the ring and in its environs were jammed with aircraft thrown by the Germans. At the Bolshaya Rossoshka airfield, our soldiers counted up to forty more or less intact Ju 52 / 3m. About 300 wrecked cars of various types were lying there, among which were also "junkers". 17 Ju 52 / ZGP captured in Basargino ...

According to the Ukrainian authorities, they heroically waged a war with Russian troops for the sixth year already. And, what, during this period, they, as a trophy, did not capture a single aircraft?
Ahhhh!?, Forgot , then Russia ... no planes

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Terenin

They have been waging war with Russian troops for the sixth year already. And, well, during this period, they, as a trophy, did not capture a single one ...

Yes, God be with you, the 404s did not even stop trading with the Russian Federation over these almost six years ...

[Terenin]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Quote: Terenin

They have been waging war with Russian troops for the sixth year already. And, well, during this period, they, as a trophy, did not capture a single one ...

Yes, God be with you, the 404s did not even stop trading with the Russian Federation over these almost six years ...

And, here's another "secret" for Ukrainian radicals
So, in 2018, Russia imported goods worth $ 3,65 billion from Ukraine (2017 billion in 3,94), and Ukraine from the Russian Federation - $ 8,09 billion (7,2 billion). In January-March 2019, Ukrainian exports to Russia amounted to $ 760 million, and imports from the Russian Federation - $ 1,8 billion. Thus, in the first quarter, Ukraine’s negative balance in trade with Russia exceeded $ 1 billion.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Terenin

here's another "secret" for Ukrainian radicals

For them, there are still so many secrets that have not been discovered, and the worst is that the world does not revolve around the country 404. The world is not at all interested in the opinion of Ukraine, from the word quite. Soon this shop with flirting closes - the hangover will be very serious ...

[Tersky]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Which are not like without toilets - with cut cables were transferred.

For cables and wires, contact Lenur Islyamov, his "horsemen" from the "volunteer" battalion "Donbass" after the explosion of power transmission towers going to the Crimea have them in the aisle.

[The leader of the Redskins]

I'd rather turn to you as a moderator. Here KOMENTATORS address me in "you" and in an indecent form, but you don't even notice it ..

[Tersky]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

... Here KOMENTATORS to me on "you" and in an obscene form address, and you like this and do not notice.

Under the comments there is an option "complaint", the moderator is not able to track all the texts of comments on all branches at once.

[30hgsa]

I apologize for the question, what is there to track? By the rules of the forum it is forbidden to contact the master above "on you" and in an "inappropriate form"? :)

[Tersky]

Quote: 30hgsa

I apologize for the question, but what is there to keep track of?

Do you think there’s nothing having two warnings in your profile?

Quote: 30hgsa

By the rules of the forum it is forbidden to contact the master above "on you" and in an "inappropriate form"?

It’s forbidden to label what you are trying to do now. And on you or on you depends on the degree of your upbringing and a measure of respect for an unfamiliar interlocutor.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Tersky

It’s forbidden to label

Tady will have to ban all complainants first !!!

[Alex Justice]

And on you or on you depends on the degree of your upbringing and a measure of respect for an unfamiliar interlocutor.

And we have everything for you :) All my bosses and neighbors are John, Smith, etc. In another they are not addressed, no matter what title he has.

[bobba94]

I remember 10 years ago, a deputy of the State. thoughts Alksnis at some forum in the internet quarreled. In the heat of the argument, his opponents stopped choosing expressions. Alksnis wrote with insult that he was a deputy of the State Duma and that it was useless to talk to him like that. What started here ..... in a short time he was thrown about a thousand comments .... the most correct was - "ram".

[Filxnumx]

offended baby? So I addressed the wrong address. You need to mom to wipe the snot. And you make the moderator strain on every little thing.

[bobba94]

He advised in a smoking room on spoiled modern manners, that is, on rudeness in the internet and made the guys from our Center for Information Technology laugh. They explained to me popularly that on the Internet as a bathhouse ....... uniforms with epaulets, orders, award mausers and revolutionary checkers, everything remains in the locker room, and in the steam room everyone is naked and equal.

[dinis]

Yabid to you, what only you can do? Excuse me.

[svp67]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Which are not like without toilets - with cut cables were transferred.

And ... and before the Crimean events, they were all so direct, serviceable, serviceable ... they flew every single day

[The leader of the Redskins]

I do not know. Not interested. But hardly...

[Snail N9]

I am interested in comparing how many military aviation received and lost in Russia and Ukraine in a year, otherwise it somehow does not seem to be serious, Russia is a "great raw material power" and "Ukraine, which is not today tomorrow: it will fall apart, go around the world, freeze and etc. (underline the necessary) "... I mean who, with this case was better ...

[kot28.ru]

snooper, and in Ukraine do airplanes fly as often as in Russia? Look at the statistics on how many hours of flight pilots they have with us per year! And what is the dynamics.

[antivirus]

if one succeeds not to be allowed into NATO and kept in a neutral status, behind the red lines, then in 20 years the potential from the USSR will die.
This = 1991 (Soviet solid education and entry into the profession) + 40-50 years before retirement. Great Myanmar.

[TermNachTer]

Well, I can still understand from the Su - 24, 25, 27 - they removed parts from one car, painted and put on another. Although this is not a repair, it is a division of the MO budget, since the real value of a car restored in this way is a very big question. But where did Il - 76 come from? Those two dozen that are in Zaporozhye, at the storage base, have already been dismantled "for good reason" - except for the glider there is nothing else. Where are the engines - 8 pieces, other spare parts, avionics?

[Filxnumx]

So they could have bought (or rather, simply requisitioned for the needs of the ATO) civilian Il-76TD with more or less resource D-30KP (KP-2), and in Nikolayev they poked it up to military MD-shek. The second deck in the cargo bay and the "kulemet" in the stern to stick is, in general, a simple matter.

[TermNachTer]

Where did you buy it? The MoD did not report any purchases. Of course, we could buy some scrap metal so that our little man at the ministry would earn a little money, and then share, but not yet heard. If you take civilians, then the question is the same - when were they last repaired?

[Avior]

IL76 repaired and refitted for international flights - this is from messages on the same site
About the engines and where they got them from - not written

[TermNachTer]

That's the problem that there are about 20 gliders. stands in Zaporozhye at the storage base, but there are no engines, no other fillings. But how to repair the engine without spare parts? I know what I'm talking about, because I work on this profile, although not an engineer, but I understand the complexity of the problem

[Nordport2]

We bought in Russia like all the other spare parts and accessories.

[TermNachTer]

I am plagued by vague doubts - spare parts for the D - 30 are not sold at the "flea market". The production is dual-use though. The FSB can organize a walk to the regions of the Far North.

[Ros 56]

Do not forget about the Potato Luka, and Ilyuhi fly around the world. Well, do not forget about the darkest godfather. Many options can be found.

[TermNachTer]

It is in Banderland that you can solve any question, it all depends on the amount indicated. It seems to me that in Russia it’s a little more complicated. Will the godfather of the darkest fit into the muddy harlot for $ 1 million? I do not think that app. parts will be pulled more expensive, + their shipment to Banderland, etc. In short, these engines will be gold.

[dinis]

Engines for IL can appear in Ukraine in the same way as engines appear in Russia, for example, for the BE-200, which Poroshenko had forbidden to supply to Russia with sanctions. These are more likely not intermediaries from third countries, but mutual assistance, so to speak.

[TermNachTer]

How Ukrainian engines, and not only on the Be - 200, got to Russia - it is clear that there were two interested parties. But with D - 30, very big doubts. The Ukrainian Defense Ministry might want to buy, but Poroshenko & K is not involved in aviation. There is simply no one to lobby interests for a positive solution of the issue. Again, in Perm, they understand well how the amateur performance in this matter can end.

[tihonmarine]

3 helicopters and one transport aircraft An-2 received the Navy.

If you joke around museums and landfills, you can also find PO-2.

[bessmertniy]

It seems that its aircraft industry is completely bent, since they are oriented to buy abroad.

[Pavel57]

Tu-16 and MiG-19 removed from the pedestals.

[mikstepanenko]

And where is the TU-16 on the pedestal? Too big for this purpose, I saw on the pedestals only the MIG-17 as more suitable in size.

[Pavel57]

In Nikolaev both Tu-16, and MiG-19 were. In Cherkassy MiG-19, if not mistaken.

[niki233]

we have on the pedestals and the Tu-22 and Tu16 and Tu95 are!

[Thrall]

When I hear about Ukrainian military aviation, I immediately remember what they did in 2014 in the Donbass ...

Yulia Chicherina released a video dedicated to Ana Kostenko, who died from a cluster shell fired by a Ukrainian plane on August 13, 2014. Anechka Kostenko died on a children's beach in the city of Zugres, Donetsk region, during an air attack from a cluster bomb. At the time of the tragedy, Ana Kostenko was 2,5 years old. On August 13, 2014, Ani's parents brought her to Zugres's children's beach. At this time, the beach was considered safe. Media later reported that Ukrainian planes fired rocket shells at the beach. That day, 20 people died, three of whom were children.

[Positiv]

Quote: Thrall

When I hear about Ukrainian military aviation, I immediately remember what they did in 2014 in the Donbass ...

Photos do not miss, but we remember Rich ..

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Thrall

When I hear about the military aviation of Ukraine, I immediately remember what they did in 2014 in the Donbass ..

They forgot, but we did not.

[Positiv]

I remember in the Donbas, a brilliant operation was to destroy the Ukrainian Air Force .. They clicked them like nuts almost every day .. Then we were framed with Boeng .. Until now, the showdown
Can you feel the new stage begins? Well, let's look forward to seeing you ..

[usr01]

Clicked them like nuts almost every day ..

It was ... Yes ... I'll come home from work, "Well, where are my 100 grams for a knocked down one?"

[Positiv]

Quote: usr01

It was ... Yes ...

If this is true .. My respect and reverence!

[askort154]

What was in the Ukrainian SSR, and what was left in the "independent Ukraine".

It wasbefore leaving the USSR:
- 4 VA (10 divisions, 47 regiments and 11 separate air squadrons.
- Air defense 7 regiments.
There were about 1100 aircraft on the wing. and in total there were 2800 aircraft on the balance sheet of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Ukraine took 4 place in the world, after the USA, the Russian Federation and China.
Remaining on 2018/XNUMX/XNUMX
- 7 MiG-29 + 4 MiG-29 MU1 + 1 MiT-29 UB;
- 5 Su - 27 + 1 Su - 27 UB;
- 3 Su - 25 M - attack aircraft;
- 1 Su - 24 MR - scout;
- 4 L - 39 M1 - educational;
- 2 An - 26;
- 1 Il - 76 MD
(Millitary Aviation 2018)

[tihonmarine]

Quote: askort154

There were about 1100 aircraft on the wing. and in total there were 2800 aircraft on the balance sheet of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Ukraine took 4 place in the world, after the USA, the Russian Federation and China.

We sold all the devices, didn’t make a single one, there’s nothing to buy, fly on foot.

[igor67]

But I only read about Su 24: So, according to information from open sources, today the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces on combat duty should total about 14 Su-24M bombers and 12 Su-24MR reconnaissance units,

[TermNachTer]

Anyone can draw beautiful tsifirki in references and reports on Kuev. How much of what is drawn on a piece of paper can fly into the air? Well, and I think you understand that taking off to make a circle above the airfield and landing is not a sortie at all, where the car is driven to extreme conditions?

[crjhgbjyec 2039]

You understand that this whole armada was maintained at the expense of the USSR Ministry of Defense and the factories of the Communist Party of the Defense Ministry were all over the Union.

[Bshkaus]

Personally, I do not give a damn about what crashed and entered service with the Ukrainian Air Force.
I would deal with my problems and draw a conclusion from:
1 loss of two Su-34 in a collision on the Far East.
2 crashed Tu22M3 in the Murmansk region
3 crashed Su-25 UB in the Stavropol Territory
4 decommissioned Tu-22M3 scrap after rolling out for the runway a couple of weeks ago.
5-crashed Mi-28
6-crashed Su-57
If you missed something on the little things from helicopters, you can correct it.
Civil aviation with the Superjet, or the navy, which burned down the Kuzyu in December and sank two decommissioned submarines, I do not even mention.
Well, in fact, let's first take the log out of our own eye, and then somehow we’ll sort out the knot in the “brother's” eye.

[30hgsa]

My dear, why don’t you tell about the losses from your USA?
The U.S. Air Force F-16 crashed in western Germany.
F / A-18E crashed near California's Death Valley
T-6 Texan II crashed today at about 14 p.m. [00 p.m. Moscow time] southwest of Hastings in Oklahoma
US Air Force F-15 fighter crashed off the coast of Japan
In the United States, the military aircraft AV-8B Harrier crashed
Chinook helicopter crashes in the province of Logar in the east of the country
Etc. etc. There the list for 2019 of lost planes and helicopters is huge.
Maybe because accidents are inevitable with active use? (and we have about 100 hours on a pilot in 2019), but you, as a propagandist, do not want to mention this? I don’t want to mention that all the losses in aviation are more than blocked by the supply of new aircraft to the troops?

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: 30hgsa

I didn’t know that your Ukrainian planes ...

Quote: 30hgsa

why don’t you tell us about your owners from the USA?

Sweetheart 30hgsa, yet wildly sorry, is this such a perverted form of patriotism? I am purely specifically in order of banter
Of course, you’re right that losses are inevitable during operation, but aren’t they too expensive approach

Quote: 30hgsa

all losses in aviation are more than covered by the supply of new boards

I agree with

Quote: Bshkaus

deal with your problems and draw a conclusion from ...

and if Bshkaus, due to his technical focus, is interested in precisely the technical aspects, then I would be interested to hear about the resolution of organizational issues, which also have accumulated a lot.
Especially considering that the country's aviation 404 is not factor as such

[Bshkaus]

My dear, why don’t you tell about the losses from your USA?

Firstly, who told you that the United States is my masters, and secondly, I correctly understood that by the concept of "patriotism" we now mean closing our eyes to our problems and ridiculing the enemy, taking as an axiom the thesis that he obviously does not have intelligence ?
And once again about the US losses, I, too, like the losses of the Ukrainian Air Force, do not give a damn, because this is not my country and this is not my Air Force.
If it was a question of losses in air battles, it’s not a question, I would also "And threw caps into the air!".

Maybe because accidents are inevitable with active use?

I completely agree here BUT!
Since you’ve started talking about statistics, the average U.S. Air Force pilots in recent years has been 170-190 hours, i.e. 70% percent higher than ours, and I don’t even want to compare and count the number of aircraft.

I don’t want to mention that all the losses in aviation are more than blocked by the supply of new aircraft to the troops?

And we also have qualified pilots "will women give birth again?"
I understand that you do not care about people, only for every catastrophe dead people left by widows and orphans.

Maybe because accidents are inevitable with active use?

Or maybe it's time to abandon the soviet approach and begin to take concrete actions to ensure that these incidents tend to endlessly zero?
We had a Tu-22M3 in the runway during a snowstorm, and there wasn’t even any elementary lighting on the runway, it’s in the 21st century, under my windows there is a Christmas tree on the street hung with garlands, which are enough for 2-3 airfields.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Bshkaus

Well, in fact, let's first take the log out of our own eye, and then somehow we’ll sort out the knot in the “brother's” eye.

And how many things it took when the army warehouses were "derbanized". My son bought a GAZ-200 for $ 69 and a Kamaz with a kungas for $ 300, and his friend Ural for $ 250.

[Non liberoid Russian]

phrase

The military received domestic repaired and in some cases modernized equipment

just touches ... did not know that sumeria produces its sou and mi

[Earth]

Quote: Not Liberoid Russian

phrase
The military received domestic repaired and in some cases modernized equipment
just touches ... did not know that sumeria produces its sou and mi

belonging to Ukraine. Production of the USSR.
Got during the collapse and became domestic. No others.
The emphasis is on UAVs + missiles .. In such wars, army aviation suffers heavy losses due to the large saturation of MANPADS and SAMs "from the mines."
Aviation road. Service, purchase. Pilots. They have always been the elite (still submariners) of the military.
Looked at the site, saw interesting.
Guard got
Airbus H225 Super Puma (EC 225LP)
And DPSN - 2 pieces of Airbus H225 Super Puma (EC 225 LP)
and in the White Paper bought 14 planes, 16 helicopters and 75 UAVs
As can be seen from the procurement, the emphasis is precisely on cheaper and simpler UAVs (although Turkish ones have not been simple for a long time, but the new joint one is even more difficult)
3 helicopters sent to the Navy (including MI 14PL)

[Yury Siritsky]

And for what shishi they think to buy equipment.

[Aleks2000]

And, again, hohlonovosti ...

[amr]

Quote: tihonmarine

And how many things it took when the army warehouses were "derbanized". My son bought a GAZ-200 for $ 69 and a Kamaz with a kungas for $ 300, and his friend Ural for $ 250.

)))) we steal ourselves, we ourselves derbanim, we ourselves are indignant)))

[bald]

As deplorable as Ukraine itself. Without Russia, nuts will not fall from the sky. It is necessary to be "masters" all over the world to ruin the industry, damn it first place.

[mih52]

That is, the new acquisitions are old Soviet equipment excavated from warehouses? The most "new" samples are already 30 years old at best.

[Pavel57]

When will Ukraine begin to receive the F-16?

[bistrov.]

And where is the SU-27 crashed with a fat colonel and an American?

[Protos]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

You don’t understand correctly ... According to Ukrainian media, first of all, the planes returned from the Crimea are returning from the media. Which are not like without toilets - with cut cables were transferred.

1. No planes from the Crimea to Ukraine were transferred.
2. In February 2014, the personnel of the APU of the Nefedovka airfield were transferred to Ukraine:
An-26 1pc, Mi-8 1pc. and Be-12 1pc. Mi-14 1pc. Mi-24 1pc.
(everything, at least somehow flew )
3. If in the process of driving something about @ blos, then ukrovoins could screw and sell a che-thread right in the air (this skill has developed fiercely over the years of independence)
There were cases when, during a nightly database, smart Ukrainians managed to solder oxide-semiconductor capacitors to electrolytic ones and put everything into operation!

[Serega Dezhko]

In the meantime, Ukroboronprom decided to demolish the Antonov plant in Kiev and sell the land under it.