Named the features of the export version of the MiG-35 fighter


The new MiG-35 fighter in export version will receive a new cockpit. It will also be equipped with a radar with an active phased array antenna (AFAR). Glider geometry will also be changed.


This was announced by the Director General of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) Yuri Slyusar. According to the information RIA News, he told the following:

We are already negotiating with foreign partners about the supply of the fighter.

The head of the UAC noted that the new version of the aircraft aroused interest among potential buyers.

MiG-35 is considered a multi-functional light fighter generation 4 ++, which in its characteristics is approaching the fifth generation. The manufacturer published the detailed technical description of the aircraft in September 2019.

This combat vehicle is based on the MiG-29 fighter, which has proven itself well. Compared with the previous version, it was equipped with engines of greater power. In addition, the fighter received a rod for refueling in the air and special additional equipment for transferring fuel to other aircraft. The combat vehicle has nine suspension points to accommodate up to six tons of ammunition. Arms management system allows you to use any modern aviation bombs and missiles, both existing and promising.
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  1. Mountain shooter 31 December 2019 10: 38 New
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    And in our country, it seems, he is not in the troops ... on the 35th. Or am I missing something?
    1. Siberia 75 31 December 2019 10: 43 New
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      Glider geometry will also be changed.

      Adjust the electronic filling to the standards of the buyer's country, adjust the characteristics of the weapons, this is understandable.
      But change the glider ?? Expensive and meaningless activity.
      1. Piramidon 31 December 2019 11: 23 New
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        Quote: Siberia 75
        But change the glider ?? Expensive and meaningless activity.

        I do not think that the glider will be radically changed, such as a wing with a reverse sweep. At most, they will change the shape of some kind of fairing and add a couple of hatches for ease of maintenance.
        1. Vadivak 31 December 2019 19: 06 New
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          Quote: Piramidon
          At most, they will change the shape of some kind of fairing and add a couple of hatches for ease of maintenance.

          It’s already convenient, it’s not drying, I hung it up and went, a hard worker
          1. Piramidon 31 December 2019 19: 10 New
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            Quote: Vadivak
            He is already comfortable

            The techie always lacks either a hatch in the right place, or additional joints on his hands. laughing
            1. Vadivak 31 December 2019 19: 18 New
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              Quote: Piramidon
              The techie always lacks either a hatch in the right place, or additional joints on his hands

              Everyone likes winked
              1. Piramidon 1 January 2020 01: 09 New
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                Quote: Vadivak
                Everyone likes

                You definitely ALL, ALL techies interviewed? hi
                1. Vadivak 1 January 2020 12: 56 New
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                  Quote: Piramidon
                  You definitely ALL, ALL techies interviewed?

                  No, only from the Air Force Academy. They complain about drying especially 30, and 29 -35 praise
            2. Levius RU 2 January 2020 09: 43 New
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              I propose to refine the technicians
        2. tomket 1 January 2020 21: 53 New
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          Quote: Piramidon
          Maximum, they will change the shape of some kind of fairing and add a couple of hatches for ease of maintenance

          On MAX, there seemed to be a demonstrator with a modified keel shape. By type of Su-35.
      2. TermNachTer 31 December 2019 15: 02 New
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        Composites can be used to make details of any configuration, so it is quite possible to make some changes. Not important, but visually noticeable.
    2. figwam 31 December 2019 10: 45 New
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      One pair has long been transferred to the troops, but there is no news about them.
      1. 1976AG 31 December 2019 11: 35 New
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        Quote: figvam
        One pair has long been transferred to the troops, but there is no news about them.

        Not to troops, but to trials
        1. figwam 31 December 2019 14: 45 New
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          Quote: 1976AG
          Not to troops, but to trials

          Transferred to the VKS, to the troops.
          1. 1976AG 1 January 2020 12: 13 New
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            Quote: figvam
            Quote: 1976AG
            Not to troops, but to trials

            Transferred to the VKS, to the troops.

            The tests of the MiG-35 are not completed. Built in 2019, 2 MiG-35s joined two previously built to continue testing.
            1. figwam 1 January 2020 14: 23 New
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              Quote: 1976AG
              The tests of the MiG-35 are not completed.

              Tests are most likely conducted in the troops, for example, in the flight test center of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in the city of Akhtubinsk.
              1. 1976AG 1 January 2020 15: 05 New
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                In the army, I understand when in combat units, and when in the test center, then I'm sorry ... By the way, these six moments that should be built according to the contract may be transferred to the Swifts aerobatic team at the end of the tests. Pilots of this group visited the plant in Lukhovitsy.
                1. figwam 1 January 2020 15: 34 New
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                  Quote: 1976AG
                  In the army, I understand when in combat units

                  The center in Akhtubinsk is also a military unit that has its number like the others and the same officers serve there. In this center, aircraft undergo military trials, pilots of combat units arrive there to undergo training on the new Swifts technology, the Russian Knights are no exception, they also serve in the Moscow Region and also fly to the training grounds and participate in exercises ..
                  1. 1976AG 1 January 2020 15: 43 New
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                    Yes, it’s not the issue. Testing is not a military service as intended. Fighter service takes place in a fighter regiment, and testing is one of the stages in the creation of an aircraft. This is not even trial operation.
                    1. figwam 1 January 2020 16: 06 New
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                      Quote: 1976AG
                      Testing is not a military service as intended.

                      The debate is about the ownership of these aircraft, I tell you that they are in the army and belong to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and they are serial samples, as evidenced by the double-digit side number.
    3. donavi49 31 December 2019 11: 00 New
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      Well, MO is not such a gift. This is a slightly improved SMT in fact. It seems that the paid order is 6 + 2 without special prospects for an extension in this person.


      The Ministry of Defense is set up positively aboard 21-22 years (which is discussed in the article). Now so far only with the cabin of the ship, the engines of the ship, the glider of the ship and the radar from the 80s.
      1. Zaurbek 31 December 2019 11: 40 New
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        The main AFAR .... and real multifunctionality.
      2. NN52 31 December 2019 23: 03 New
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        donavi49
        What knowledge ... and where only ... apparently from Internet fields.
        Obviously not with Lukhovits ..
      3. tomket 2 January 2020 01: 13 New
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        Quote: donavi49
        This is a slightly improved SMT in fact.

        Experts arrived, who are not able to distinguish M-ku from SMT.
    4. venik 31 December 2019 11: 14 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And in our country, it seems, he is not in the troops ... on the 35th. Or am I missing something?

      ======
      Missed: The first 2 MiG-35 UB were delivered last year, 2 MiG-35S - in July, before the New Year they should have delivered 4. More. The numbers are certainly ridiculous, but yes, "trouble is the beginning" !!
    5. knn54 31 December 2019 11: 33 New
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      But Slyusar needs it. The main thing is to have time for the “partners” to sell more.
      And after all, modern electronic warfare equipment is being installed. Not to mention another, and the latest configuration.
      1. Piramidon 31 December 2019 19: 15 New
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        Quote: knn54
        But Slyusar needs it

        Slusar, is he buying aircraft for the Russian Aerospace Forces?
        1. knn54 31 December 2019 20: 39 New
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          Slusatory COMPLETES.
    6. g1v2 31 December 2019 11: 52 New
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      So Moscow Region doesn’t really want to buy it. The only problem is that overseas buyers do not buy much equipment. which is not in service with the house. Therefore, they wanted to buy a regiment for themselves. Then they began to untwist, that this is only the beginning and we will buy as much huge quantity. But more like advertising statements. MO is easier to continue to purchase an inexpensive 30cm heavy fighter than to put into service also the middle moment35, which is certainly cheaper, but not so much. But some quantity will still have to be purchased, otherwise they will not be taken abroad. request
      1. Chaldon48 31 December 2019 12: 06 New
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        All for the good of trade, all for capturing markets!
        1. g1v2 31 December 2019 15: 43 New
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          Naturally. The markets under capitalism are the main thing. For the markets you need to fight, and sometimes fight. request
    7. Lord of the Sith 31 December 2019 11: 57 New
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      No, already officially adopted.
      The latest multi-purpose fighters of a new generation appeared at the Russian Space Forces.

      SUKHUM, Jun 17 - Sputnik. Two of the latest MiG-35 fighter jets have been handed over to the Russian Armed Forces.

      As Ilya Tarasenko, Director General of the Russian MiG Aircraft Corporation, said in an interview with RIA Novosti, four more fighters will be delivered before the end of the year.

      "Over the past three years, we have made a major breakthrough in the MiG-35 program. As soon as possible, we launched the production of this aircraft, conducted its tests, in 2,5 years we went from development work to a contract with the Ministry of Defense," he said.

      MiG-35 - the latest multi-purpose fighter generation 4 ++. It is designed to gain air supremacy and strike at ground and surface targets from outside the enemy’s air defense zone.

    8. 30hgsa 31 December 2019 12: 11 New
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      And why the hell (Mig-29) in the troops needed? The Mig-29 was made by analogy with the F-16, we wanted to get the same pair as the F-16 and F-15, where the Su-27 is a heavy fighter, and the Mig-29 is a light fighter. Did not work out. Mig-29 was not a light fighter, but not heavy. Why? Because MiG could not in single-engine. The idea of ​​the F-16 was simple - we put 15 pcs on the F-2. F100, on F-16 - 1 pc. Ф100. Due to this, the F-16 was cheaper, easier to operate. And the Mig-29 ... got 2 engines and not unified with the Su-27 engines, and at the price and complexity took up the Su-27. Instead of saving due to deunification, we got waste.

      In fact, the Mig-29 is a story about protectionism, when a respected KB breaks through and pushes through an unnecessary backup machine. So we got two equivalent attack helicopters, three equivalent main tanks, two front-line fighters. True, in the case of the Mig-29, everything turned out to be very bad, the Mig-29 was almost as expensive and complicated as the Su-27, but in most TTX it did not reach the Su-27 very seriously. It was not necessary to have two cars in one niche at the same time ... but we got them. And they simultaneously produced 2 lines of engines like a cherry on a cake.
      1. Aibolit 31 December 2019 17: 17 New
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        I agree.,.
        And so in everything:
        * 2-3 SSBN options
        * 2 BR options for Apple
        * you can get confused in the ICBM options
        ETC
        so the defense industry and ate the budget of the country of the Soviets
        1. SovAr238A 31 December 2019 19: 03 New
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          Quote: Aibolit
          I agree.,.
          And so in everything:
          * 2-3 SSBN options
          * 2 BR options for Apple
          * you can get confused in the ICBM options
          ETC
          so the defense industry and ate the budget of the country of the Soviets


          For such words about parallel air defense systems from the POV, writers from the methodical order threw minuses.
          And here they apparently gave a day off. There was no team - did not run ...
      2. tomket 2 January 2020 01: 23 New
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        Quote: 30hgsa
        The Mig-29 was made by analogy with the F-16, we wanted to get the same pair as the F-16 and F-15, where the Su-27 is a heavy fighter, and the Mig-29 is a light fighter. Did not work out

        Can you tell me why it didn’t work? At the time of the collapse of the USSR, more than 1000 units were built by MiGs. Export was established, it diverged like hot cakes.
        Quote: 30hgsa
        Due to this, the F-16 was cheaper, easier to operate. And the Mig-29 ... got 2 engines and not unified with the Su-27 engines, and at the price and complexity took up the Su-27. Instead of saving due to deunification, we got waste.

        Actually, it was not about saving, but about guaranteed superiority over the f-16. These are already people with a warped market economy and their brains; they began to drag economy everywhere. You won’t believe it, but the cheapest thing is not to fly at all and not to build anything, that’s the saving, so the saving!
        Quote: 30hgsa
        In fact, the Mig-29 is a story about protectionism, when a respected KB breaks through and pushes through an unnecessary backup machine. So we got two equivalent attack helicopters, three equivalent main tanks, two front-line fighters. True, in the case of the Mig-29, everything turned out to be very bad, the Mig-29 was almost as expensive and complicated as the Su-27, but in most TTX it did not reach the Su-27 very seriously.

        Can you give the numbers? Regarding costs, high cost? Well, what would the words be backed up ... And in terms of performance characteristics, where there and to what the MiG seriously missed. And then after all, when the task for modernization was issued, the claims were just to Su. For MiG, the lag in the performance characteristics of the set was less critical.
        Quote: 30hgsa
        And they simultaneously produced 2 lines of engines like a cherry on a cake.

        Ah ah ah. What a sadness. But still the engines for the Su-24, 25, 17 line were stamped. For MiG-31. These are stupid. It was necessary according to your precepts that only one means. To the delight of you.
      3. Zefr 2 January 2020 13: 30 New
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        Isn't MIG flying first? Isn’t his aerodynamic design handed over to Sukhoi?
        1. Eug
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          Look at the shape of the sag and the thickness of their leading edge. Aerodynamics of the MiG were worked out at TsAGI, Su - at SibNIA.
    9. FRoman1984 1 January 2020 09: 26 New
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      Do you need one? After all, it is not “light”, as stated, and the engines are rather weak for 13.5 tons of empty weight. This F-16 can be called light with its 9.5 tons.
      Why is the MiG-35 better than the Su-35S?
      I am not an expert, a question for those who know. Isn't it cheaper to serve one type of aircraft?
    10. ssergey1978 1 January 2020 10: 22 New
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      I think this is a purely commercial project, if it will be adopted in the Russian Federation then only formally.
  2. mark1 31 December 2019 10: 44 New
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    In the export version, the radar will also be replaced by the cockpit, and even the geometry of the airframe will be changed ... But in our detailed version, nothing will happen, will they only change the name?
  3. Victor_B 31 December 2019 10: 45 New
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    Properly castrated cat the aircraft is more convenient to operate.
    He has less desire to run away from home.
    Taking away the secrets.
  4. izya top 31 December 2019 10: 55 New
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    Comrades, on which branch will we thump and disgrace? drinks
    1. Ros 56 31 December 2019 11: 03 New
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      And what trees do you have in the yard? Here on the second from below and sit down. lol drinks laughing
      1. Thrifty 31 December 2019 11: 32 New
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        Ross56 - the main thing was to find a place to lie down, or was enough wassat after. ....this. ... a holiday will come to us! !! drinks lol drinks
        1. Ros 56 31 December 2019 13: 31 New
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          So earlier it somehow worked out, but the experience is such a thing, you won’t drink it. lol drinks laughing
      2. izya top 31 December 2019 15: 04 New
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        Quote: Ros 56
        And what trees do you have in the yard? Here on the second

        pears, apple trees ... but they are still small request
    2. bouncyhunter 31 December 2019 11: 03 New
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      hi
      So here: https://topwar.ru/166291-voennoe-obozrenie-pozdravljaet-s-nastupajuschim.html
      1. yustas 31 December 2019 14: 52 New
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        Thank you, I'm at work, I missed this thread)
      2. izya top 31 December 2019 15: 01 New
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        very grateful hi drinks
    3. Thrifty 31 December 2019 11: 29 New
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      Izya! hi trillion years you have not been on the site! crying lol We’ll start drinking from here and up to the walls of the Capitol, which we will need to disassemble into bricks, that is, into the supreme wassat drinks goodWho is on tap today? ?? lol
      1. izya top 31 December 2019 15: 02 New
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        Quote: Thrifty
        Who is on tap today?

        apparently i what
        1. Thrifty 31 December 2019 15: 20 New
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          Izzy hi -Well, with the holiday, let's go! !! drinks drinks good
          1. izya top 31 December 2019 16: 09 New
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            Quote: Thrifty
            Happy Holidays, let's go! !

            Mihan, again you? with a new reptile drinks tongue
            1. Thrifty 31 December 2019 16: 50 New
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              Izya, I'm not at all a mihan and close !! sad I am me, but most importantly Happy New Year! !! drinks hi good drinks
              1. izya top 31 December 2019 17: 57 New
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                Quote: Thrifty
                I'm not at all mihan and close !!

                I call it, I was mistaken. But the old one likes to talk with slogans and destroy the capital of Pindostana
                1. Thrifty 31 December 2019 18: 07 New
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                  Izzy hi after the third bottle we will overtake him, both in intentions and in ways to realize these intentions !!! hi drinks good drinks
                  1. izya top 31 December 2019 18: 39 New
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                    Quote: Thrifty
                    after the third bottle we will overtake him

                    god take care of my liver
                  2. izya top 1 January 2020 00: 09 New
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                    happy New Year drinks and I’ll probably give up recourse
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  5. Pavel57 31 December 2019 11: 20 New
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    You can use any modern missiles .... and the European Meteor?
    1. SovAr238A 31 December 2019 19: 05 New
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      Quote: Pavel57
      You can use any modern missiles .... and the European Meteor?

      You can not.
      1. Pavel57 1 January 2020 03: 00 New
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        Not technically or politically?
  6. 75 Sergey 31 December 2019 11: 32 New
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    Does MiG really please us with something really new or will it cover a bench?
    1. Boa kaa 31 December 2019 13: 52 New
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      Quote: 75Sergey
      Does MiG really please us with something really new or will it cover a bench?

      He will be pleased with the high-altitude interceptor ... And they will not cover the bench: they are seriously engaged in drones.
  7. Zaurbek 31 December 2019 11: 38 New
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    The market requires AFAR, free of Western components .... now, in fact, a monopoly on these systems.
    1. Boa kaa 31 December 2019 13: 55 New
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      Quote: Zaurbek
      , in fact, a monopoly on these systems.

      What kind of monopoly are you talking about? States, China, France, the Koreans also expelled by God - all make AFARs ... What, nafig, monopoly?
      1. Zaurbek 31 December 2019 14: 00 New
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        China is just beginning. West puts it in full force. With China, it is no longer a monopoly, but it still does not export fighter aircraft with AFAR and does not supply AFAR itself for third-party manufacturers.
  8. Alexey Sommer 31 December 2019 11: 42 New
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    Neither the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation nor anyone else needs this aircraft, this is clearly understandable.
    How much can you already rush with it, like a chicken with an egg.
    It has long been necessary to spend resources and time on something new. Useful and necessary.
    1. Aviationism 3 January 2020 05: 41 New
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      This is exactly what the US and NATO want Russia to decide.
      You just don’t need much service.

      It's a pity!
  9. karabass 31 December 2019 12: 01 New
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    If
    if this sambo is sold in significant quantities abroad, the MIG team will prove to everyone that it is not in vain that they eat their bread!
    1. 30hgsa 31 December 2019 13: 56 New
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      MiG has already proven in the 77th. Wow, as proved. When, instead of a light single-engine fighter, in a pair of Su-27 unified with the latter, the lightest twin-engine (with unique engines RD-15) was completely ununified with Sukhoi throughout the whole maximum (according to the f-16 / f-33 scheme). And then they pushed this completely useless machine into production. As a result, the USSR economy received another unnecessary weight, in the combat units missed the machines, because the production of two intersecting niches (MIG-29 was too expensive and heavy for light and too light and weak for a heavy fighter), and completely unique cars (because unlike the F-16, on which are the F100 engine akin to the F100 with the F-15 ... we have engines and everything else was unique) affects the volumes.

      In Stalin's times, how MIG showed itself with Mig-29 would be called wrecking. And then it went through. If they showed less with helicopters, tanks, planes, ships ... perhaps the load on the economy would be less, and the Union might still be standing. But MIG essentially "sawed the budget of the USSR military" promoting its defective offspring by scoring on the requirements of the customer. At the same time, MIG had its own niche at that time in the form of Mig-25/31 and nothing threatened the existence of the design bureau, but it was necessary to push its plane into production precisely in the niche of a front-line fighter. It’s the same financing - an order, tickets to dispensaries, prizes and orders .... As a result, the Union of all these games could not stand it.
      1. novel66 31 December 2019 14: 17 New
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        so-so steel, by the way!
        1. 30hgsa 31 December 2019 14: 23 New
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          Inexpensive, while very strong, viscous and wear-resistant. It is well welded and relatively well processed. There are drawbacks, of course, but where without them. No wonder it was cooked just in VIAM :) and it is also used for the production of fighters :)
          1. novel66 31 December 2019 18: 09 New
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            to me, as a hacksaw, not really .. but. aviation, yes!
      2. tomket 2 January 2020 01: 31 New
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        Quote: 30hgsa
        And then they pushed this completely useless machine into production. As a result, the USSR economy received another unnecessary weight, machines were missing in the combat units, since the production of two intersecting niches

        Do you consider yourself smarter than Ustinov and Kutakhov?
        1. 30hgsa 3 January 2020 11: 12 New
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          It was not by chance that Ustinov entered the USSR into Afghanistan as it turned out to be completely unprepared for warfare in the mountains during a guerrilla warfare (to the extent that the BMP-1’s elevation angle did not allow it to respond to fire from mountain ambushes) and as a result unprepared invasion of Afghanistan was one of the impulses that brought down the USSR? It was not at Ustinov’s arsenal, wasting money and resources that they took three MBTs in succession? Dmitry Fedorovich is a legendary man, especially as the People's Commissar of the WWII, but he also made many mistakes. Moreover, we are talking about late Ustinov - who is already under 80 and who is on the verge of death. The same thing with Marshal Kutakhov - during the epic with the MiG-29 he was also a deep old man and in the 84th died of a stroke.
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            Ustinov worked more for the military industrial complex than for the army.
      3. Aviationism 3 January 2020 05: 45 New
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        How many countries bought the Su-27?
        Skolko bought MiG-29?
      4. Zaurbek 3 January 2020 22: 26 New
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        But really, an analogue of J-10 was needed with the AL-31 turbojet engine and a unified cabin. Now, at a lower cost, we would have had a lightweight analogue of the Su35C.
  10. Jack O'Neill 31 December 2019 12: 39 New
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    And who will buy it when Sukhoi has much better options? Su-30, price-quality, as they say. The MiG-35 isn’t on the table at all ...
    They needed to export a car with one engine.
    1. marshes 31 December 2019 13: 21 New
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      Quote: Jack O'Neill
      And who will buy it when Sukhoi has much better options?

      Kazakhstan, for example, it’s time to change the remaining two squadron regiments or Uzbekistan where the Su-30,35 due to territories are redundant, the same Armenia or Azerbaijan.
      1. Jack O'Neill 31 December 2019 13: 46 New
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        Kazakhstan, for example, it’s time to change the remaining two squadron regiments or Uzbekistan where the Su-30,35 due to territories are redundant, the same Armenia or Azerbaijan.

        They MiG-29M will go well. Stick the AFAR and its capabilities will be to their ears. The 35th will be bold too.
        1. marshes 31 December 2019 13: 50 New
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          They MiG-29M will go well. Stick the AFAR and its capabilities will be to their ears. The 35th will be bold too.

          So they will insist on AFAR upon purchase, otherwise something similar can be bought in China for a loan, with subsequent write-off.
          1. Jack O'Neill 31 December 2019 13: 52 New
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            So they will insist on AFAR upon purchase, otherwise something similar can be bought in China for a loan, with subsequent write-off.

            Of course there will be, the 20th year in the yard. laughing By the way, with the upcoming!
            But they need a platform easier than the 35th. 29M looks great for such countries, provided that there will be an AFAR, of course.
            1. marshes 31 December 2019 13: 59 New
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              Quote: Jack O'Neill
              Of course there will be, the 20th year in the yard. By the way, with the upcoming!

              And I also wish you all the best!
              Quote: Jack O'Neill
              But they need a platform easier than the 35th. 29M looks great for such countries, provided that there will be an AFAR, of course.

              Yes, the choice will be what would the plane be with Afar, on which Kazakhstan did not invest, although they had already assured that the contract had already been signed, all because of radar and offal, Migi should also work on the ground, by the way, this direct duty of a front-line fighter. Afar is better, suspension from pickup containers can be released.
              1. Jack O'Neill 31 December 2019 14: 13 New
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                And I also wish you all the best!

                And all the best to you!
                Yes, the choice will be what would the plane be with Afar, on which Kazakhstan did not invest, although they had already assured that the contract had already been signed, all because of radar and offal, Migi should also work on the ground, by the way, this direct duty of a front-line fighter. Afar is better, suspension from pickup containers can be released.

                I agree to all 100%!
                1. marshes 31 December 2019 14: 18 New
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                  I agree to all 100%!

                  Not only that, the infrared laser on the target designation suspension works in good weather, unlike the radio beam, everything is weatherproof.
                  1. Jack O'Neill 31 December 2019 14: 19 New
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                    Not only that, the infrared laser on the target designation suspension works in good weather, unlike the radio beam, everything is weatherproof.

                    It is truth too!
                    1. marshes 31 December 2019 14: 33 New
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                      It is truth too!

                      My father, flew on the IL-20, along the Chinese border, so with the help of radars under his belly, all the movements of the Chinese in the Soviet era were spotted. So the technology was ancient and imprinted on film, although they had two cameras, plus repeaters and a place for GRUSHNIKOV, so they got info.
                      Two trips to Afghanistan, the board was used as a command post for operations and as a relay.
                      Proud of the father.
  11. Tuzik 31 December 2019 12: 56 New
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    "The geometry of the airframe will also be changed."

    Details would be interesting. What exactly? And for what?
  12. Robertocalos 31 December 2019 13: 05 New
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    It is not very clear why to produce entities. MiG is not easy. And it costs almost like Su. At the same time, its performance characteristics are worse. A suitcase without a pen.
    1. marshes 31 December 2019 13: 22 New
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      MiG, works better on the ground.
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    5-9 31 December 2019 13: 18 New
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    How much can a stewardess be re-instilled?
    We have a pair of Su-35S and Su-34 from 4 ++ and so too (when there are still a bunch of Su-30SM and M2).
    1. 30hgsa 31 December 2019 14: 10 New
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      Yes, we and the Su-34 and Su-35S are not really needed ... Su-30SM completely covers the whole niche. Especially if you finish it a little.

      The simultaneous production of many modifications of the Su-27 is due to the fact that different plants had different capabilities. So they decided to load them with what they can do, based on capacities and the availability of components. Somewhere they were able to make the Su-35S, but somewhere they pulled only the Su-30M2. The Su-34 is a rather simplified version, unlike the Su-30SM, it has engines without high-voltage gear. As a result, our demilitarization within the same model range is connected with the Soviet legacy, when different factories built different machines and had different cooperation chains. And everyone was given to production what he can here and now without rearmament to produce and what there are components from factories for cooperation (several types of radars are supplied)

      As far back as the mind of the 2000s, it was necessary to master our version of the Su-30MKI (SU-30 SM) at all plants and rivet only it, finishing the 5th generation for the future. Sharpen cooperators for a single type of electronic filling. Now it makes no sense.
      1. marshes 31 December 2019 14: 40 New
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        Yes, we and the Su-34 and Su-35S are not really needed ... Su-30SM completely covers the whole niche. Especially if you finish it a little.

        I agree with you, so as not to scatter the budget, Leave Su 57 and 30 and Mig35, instead of Su 25. The rest should be baked with drones and helicopters.
        1. 30hgsa 31 December 2019 14: 49 New
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          In my opinion, the Mig-35 is not needed. For a light fighter, it is too heavy and expensive. To fighter too fighter. In the same Syria, it is the Su-30SM that works quite well on the ground. With mass release, it will be cheaper than the Mig-35.

          Only now, unification no longer makes sense. Su-30SM is outdated and very outdated, it needs to be modernized - to install new engines (at least the first stage, unified with Su-57), a new radar (with AFAR), but then it will already be a new machine close to Su-35S and is there the point is to expand its production, instead of switching directly to SU-57 - the question.

          IMHO, now we need to put in a series of Su-57 with an engine of the second stage, but while it is not there - it’s cheaper to cost the zoo already. But then again, it makes no sense to expand the zoo - to do what is already in the series until it stands on the wing of the Su-57.
          1. Robertocalos 31 December 2019 15: 05 New
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            But there is an understanding of how much the 57th is more expensive than the 30th?
            1. 30hgsa 31 December 2019 15: 11 New
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              Who cares? Su-27 was also much more expensive than the Mig-21.
              The 30th is long out of date. His radar is without AFAR. Here, either create a new modification of the Su-27 or switch to the Su-57 immediately.
              1. Robertocalos 31 December 2019 15: 23 New
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                Maybe it’s easier to sharpen the Su-35 underground. If the 57th is three times more expensive. SuperHornet Americans are still riveting.
                1. 30hgsa 31 December 2019 15: 33 New
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                  Su-35 single. It can not be imprisoned for good ground work since the Su-30SM. Alas.
                  But the Americans plan to stop the production of F-18s in 2020, and the F-18s are a very specific topic, they also drank their own lobby at the level of the ILC and the Navy.
                  1. Robertocalos 31 December 2019 15: 48 New
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                    And did the Amer only have the Graler left from the battle rooms?
                    1. 30hgsa 31 December 2019 15: 54 New
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                      F-15E Strike Eagle at least.
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                        But is it out of production?
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                        Quote: Robertocalos
                        But is it out of production?


                        Updated will go into production.
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                        15,16,18,22,35 / 3. It’s also healthy.
      2. marshes 31 December 2019 15: 25 New
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        [quote = 30hgsa] For a light fighter, it is too heavy and expensive. [/ quote]
        It is surprising that two-engine ones are much cheaper than the same type, the same Chinese J-10 or Swede with an American. That's how it happened, the main thing is to bargain correctly. And to kick the manufacturer, that is Russia. For the ready MIG = 35 with AFAR, the line will be lined up, not only for an airplane but also for armaments, the main thing here is not to forget the airplane is a carrier of armaments.
        [quote = 30hgsa] IMHO, now you need to put in a series of Su-57 with the engine of the second stage, but while it is not there - it’s cheaper to get by the zoo. But then again, it makes no sense to expand the zoo - to do what is already in the series until it stands on the wing of the Su-57.
        I agree.
  • Nikolaevich I 31 December 2019 16: 44 New
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    How much can a stewardess be re-instilled?

    How much is “needed”, so much is “possible”! Su-35 and Su-34 will be just right ... Well, what about the MiG-35? And what about the MiG-35! Now the "engine of the 2nd stage" will be ready ... we’ll sell it to MiG instead of 2x ... let's call it MiG-37 and ... for export (!) ... "let's go, beauty, ride, I've been waiting for you for a long time!" fellow (And what kind of whims? I don’t like the 2-engine ... get the 1-engine!)
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      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      Quote: 5-9
      How much can a stewardess be re-instilled?

      How much is “needed”, so much is “possible”! Su-35 and Su-34 will be just right ... Well, what about the MiG-35? And what about the MiG-35! Now the "engine of the 2nd stage" will be ready ... we’ll sell it to MiG instead of 2x ... let's call it MiG-37 and ... for export (!) ... "let's go, beauty, ride, I've been waiting for you for a long time!" fellow (And what kind of whims? I don’t like the 2-engine ... get the 1-engine!)


      The plane is designed around the engine ...
      Primary and secondary.
      1. Nikolaevich I 1 January 2020 02: 41 New
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        The plane is designed around the engine ..

        Well, why and why this "happens" - it is clear! But not everything is “100% unique”! Anything can happen ... You can find examples when, when modernizing an aircraft, another engine of greater power is pushed into it ... The first T-50s fly with the "117th" engine ... "Product 30" began to be developed "after" .. .
  • Carib 31 December 2019 18: 23 New
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    And why the hell (Mig-29) in the troops needed? The Mig-29 was made by analogy with the F-16, we wanted to get the same pair as the F-16 and F-15, where the Su-27 is a heavy fighter, and the Mig-29 is light. Did not work out. Mig-29 was not a light fighter, but not heavy. Why? Because MiG could not in single-engine. .

    Maybe all the same the military did not want. For a very simple reason, survivability is more than 1,5 times immediately. He could return to the airfield on one engine. and secondly, Su 27 due to unfinished engines of 10 years could not get into operation. Here is the MIG and helped to maintain defense capabilities and BG at a new level.
  • G. Georgiev 31 December 2019 19: 13 New
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    The MiG-35 is an unnecessary aircraft, even weaker than the Eurofighter. These are unnecessary expenses for the Russian taxpayer, without judgment. The MIG company must be saved in a different way.
  • Aviationism 2 January 2020 09: 26 New
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    And where is the vector traction? Without it, the Su-35 is worse than Modern Western opponents for the disease of air supremacy. Sushi are not fighters, but interceptors that shine due to vector traction. When the Su-27 and MiG-29 were sold, almost no one bought Sushki, but the MiG-29 was very popular.

    To offer the MiG-35 without OVT is a huge stupidity, which is rejoiced here in the West. Perhaps it can only be explained by the fact that the head of the MiG is one senior director of the Sukhoi OKV and he does not want the MiG-35 to capture part of the Sukhoi monopoly vector traction market.

    Those who believe that over-maneuverability has lost value should ask two questions:
    - Why do F-22s with OBT want to be put into production again? (Will not be)
    - Why Sukhoi successfully sells aircraft with OBT?

    MiG-35 with ATS and thrust ratio 1: 1+ will be invincible!
  • G. Georgiev 2 January 2020 15: 12 New
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    Check out the F-16 and Eurofighter. From their radar from what distance they will find the Mig-35, and then it will become clear that the Mig-35 is an excess aircraft with weak radar and weapons. This is a waste of money.
  • Sarkazm 2 January 2020 18: 59 New
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    The point on the MiG-35 is to spend money, while the F-35 has already released HUNDREDS? ... Both the plane and the pilot are expensive, and I obviously do not want to substitute them as a quail for shooting.
    Where to sell to Africa, there are no problems, but you need an analogue of a 5th generation light fighter. Moreover, the MiG was hurt. If the Su-57 is conventionally an analogue of F-22, then a mass light analogue of F-35 is also needed. There is no money you can create single-engine, unifying with heavy, not only in the engine, but in most systems.
    And fuss, albeit with a once-good fighter, but ferrous metal at the present time, a waste of money, which is not so much.
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    And why on all photos of the MiG-35 with only a double cabin? Is there no single option?