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Shoigu: The Ministry of Defense has completed the deployment of combat lasers "Relight"

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Shoigu: The Ministry of Defense has completed the deployment of combat lasers "Relight"

The Ministry of Defense has completed the deployment of Peresvet laser systems. This was announced by Russian Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu at an expanded meeting of the board of the Ministry of Defense on Tuesday.


According to the minister, the latest Peresvet laser systems were deployed in areas of service for the five missile divisions of the Strategic Missile Forces. Deployment of installations was completed by December 1 of this year, all complexes took up combat duty.

The deployment of Peresvet laser systems has been completed. Since December 1, they have been on combat duty in the position areas of the five missile divisions of the Strategic Missile Forces

- said the head of the military department.

Earlier, the deployment of the latest Peresvet laser systems was announced by the head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Valery Gerasimov. Speaking to military attaches of foreign countries, he explained that the systems are used to cover mobile ground missile systems (PGRK) from the Strategic Missile Forces.

Since the beginning of December, the Peresvet laser systems have been on alert in the positional areas of mobile ground missile systems with the task of covering up their maneuvering operations

- Gerasimov said.

On experimental combat duty calculations "Peresvet" entered into December 1, 2018.

Peresvet lasers belong to the latest Russian arms, the characteristics of the complex are not disclosed. According to military experts, laser systems perform the tasks of air defense and missile defense.
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  1. kubanec
    kubanec 25 December 2019 12: 59
    +15
    It's cool, some kind of fantasy .....
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 25 December 2019 13: 01
      +5
      Quote: kubanec
      It's cool, some kind of fantasy .....

      Exactly good It’s very interesting, of course, what are its possibilities, I understand the secrecy! soldier
      1. Good_Anonymous
        Good_Anonymous 25 December 2019 13: 04
        -1
        So the possibilities are unknown or fantastically cool? smile
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 25 December 2019 13: 28
          +3
          Quote: Good_Anonymous
          So the possibilities are unknown or fantastically cool? smile

          Judging by the post winked for some, the ceiling of opportunities is just above the baseboard
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 25 December 2019 22: 05
            0
            Too much secrecy. Nothing is known except that it exists.
            Even car numbers hide
        2. qQQQ
          qQQQ 25 December 2019 14: 38
          +1
          Quote: Good_Anonymous
          So the possibilities are unknown or fantastically cool? smile

          It is necessary to really look at things, the laser in the atmosphere, all the same, it dissipates very quickly, I think, in a radius of 2-3 km. burns out the optics and destroys the electronics, maybe it detonates explosives, but this is already from the realm of fantasy. But this is enough to protect the ICBM mines from precision weapons, and a simple cast iron will not reach there, and if this situation occurs, the mines will already be empty, and there will be no one to throw iron.
          1. Good_Anonymous
            Good_Anonymous 25 December 2019 14: 57
            -1
            Quote: qqqq
            I think in a radius of 2-3 km. burns out optics and destroys electronics


            I think he either burns out optics or electronics, but not both.
        3. 1536
          1536 25 December 2019 15: 32
          0
          Good_Anonymous (Vasily) Today, 13:04
          So the possibilities are unknown or fantastically cool?


          Yes, "the Chinese element base" for whatever you ask, you know the answer?
          1. Good_Anonymous
            Good_Anonymous 25 December 2019 15: 35
            +2
            God be with her, with the base. I just did not meet official statements about the capabilities of the complex, but it is curious. Especially against the backdrop of rumors of a nuclear reactor for pumping a laser.
            1. 1536
              1536 25 December 2019 15: 36
              +2
              Officially, everything is written in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 276.
              1. Good_Anonymous
                Good_Anonymous 25 December 2019 15: 52
                0
                Is this so straightforward in one 276 article? What are you talking about? Are articles 1 to 275 not official enough for you?
            2. Pup1
              Pup1 25 December 2019 18: 33
              -3
              Man ... there’s an extension cord in the next car and a lead battery ... clearly
      2. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 25 December 2019 13: 06
        -11
        Comrades, let's keep this state secret. Let's talk better about the circulation of targets in the image of Trump's face. wink
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich 25 December 2019 13: 11
          +6
          Why did Trump not please you? He is certainly an American, but in a very illusory way he declares the principle "A thin world is better than a good quarrel."
          1. bessmertniy
            bessmertniy 25 December 2019 13: 14
            -4
            Well, and what do you dislike about the target in the form of its face? The sweet smile with which he prescribes sanctions to us can be a great ten for the shooter. wink
            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Sidor Amenpodestovich 25 December 2019 13: 21
              +3
              Because not aim at that. Congress concocts sanctions, and there are a lot of hawks among Republicans. In order not to be left without support, Trump is forced to curtsy for them.
              1. Fraracol_2
                Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 13: 44
                -8
                Still naively believing in Trumpnash?
                1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Sidor Amenpodestovich 25 December 2019 14: 00
                  +4
                  Yes, not ours. Does anyone really think so? It always seemed to me that this was just irony.
                  However, he, I think, reflects in the sense that it is easier to organize and lead a certain group (people, countries) using intelligence and leadership qualities, rather than brute force.
                  1. krot
                    krot 25 December 2019 15: 31
                    +7
                    Still naively believing in Trumpnash?

                    Definitely Trump is better for us than Clinton. That is a rabid aunt.
                  2. Fraracol_2
                    Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 17: 52
                    -2
                    Oh oh With his individual nods from anything, and not just from brute force, it is better not to promise. The old administration was somehow more predictable.
                2. bk316
                  bk316 25 December 2019 14: 32
                  +7
                  Still naively believing in Trumpnash?

                  Your level of thinking matches your rating.
                  Trump is not ours, he is his American.
                  It’s just that he is for his country of the USA and not for the engine of globalists who are trying to make of it. He believes that the policy of global domination of the United States will not bring to good, but it is the attempt of global domination that makes Russia and the United States enemies.
                  I didn’t put it too difficult for you, while you are all about issues of faith in cliches ...
                  1. Fraracol_2
                    Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 17: 10
                    -4
                    Thank you, everything stated is quite accessible even for my level of thinking. Only your fetishism regarding a certain rating, the existence of which I had never previously suspected, betrays an individual with unusually developed mental abilities and, apparently, an outstanding IQ. But only if I had a positive rating on this site, this would be a serious reason for me to think about whether everything is correct in my perception of the surrounding reality.
                    1. bk316
                      bk316 25 December 2019 17: 58
                      0
                      But only if I had a positive rating on this site, this would be a serious reason for me to think about whether everything is correct in my perception of the surrounding reality.


                      The rating determines the attitude of the majority of this community to you.
                      If the rating is small, the attitude is negative.
                      If negative, the attitude is sharply negative.

                      If you spend your time in a community that treats you negatively, you
                      - masochist
                      - troll
                      - at work

                      Which category do you belong to?
                      1. Fraracol_2
                        Fraracol_2 26 December 2019 07: 14
                        -2
                        I didn’t try to mentally attribute myself to any category. It’s even a pity. I just have my own views and beliefs, and I always try to think with my own head. And most have never been authority for me.
                        “Most are never right. Never, I say! This is one of those generally accepted false conventions against which every free and thinking person is obligated to rebel. ”
                        Henryk Ibsen “Enemy of the People”, 1882
                      2. bk316
                        bk316 26 December 2019 11: 41
                        +1
                        I just have my own views and beliefs,

                        every free and thinking person must rebel

                        Yes, I heard these liberal slogans especially in the 90s, they are very tempting for immature minds, but how can you "spit on your fathers, get a cookie" and if you do this you will constantly get a medal "fighter for freedom" from "real free and thinking".

                        But this is not the point you are mostly minus not for your views, but for your manner of presentation. For your disrespect for the interlocutor. Your "was not an authority" is really "disrespect".

                        Besides you are lying, these are not your thoughts. These are Internet memes.
                        Still naively believing in Trumpnash?
                      3. Fraracol_2
                        Fraracol_2 26 December 2019 18: 05
                        0
                        It’s a little surprising where I challenged the authorship of Internet memes? Something you attribute to me some of your fantasies. And if everything here, without fail, would only write strictly their own thoughts, the site would have to be closed in a couple of days due to lack of material. Yes, okay. It is unlikely that you and I have something to discuss.
              2. Alex bergman
                Alex bergman 26 December 2019 01: 32
                0
                Ritual squats rather))))
        2. Borik
          Borik 25 December 2019 13: 22
          +1
          That the laser system was put into combat service is good, only it has one big drawback. IT depends on weather conditions.
          1. _Sergei_
            _Sergei_ 25 December 2019 13: 42
            +7
            At us, the “Altai Optical Laser Center named after G.S. Sweeps around and nothing is visible, but it’s clean. So Russia is big and you can find where to put it.
          2. Azimuth
            Azimuth 25 December 2019 13: 59
            +3
            Yes, the fact that he must shoot down in such conditions does not fly
        3. Roman1970_1
          Roman1970_1 25 December 2019 18: 15
          +1
          You might think that one of us has access to state secrets. And it's good that no
      3. shark
        shark 25 December 2019 14: 02
        -5
        Yes, a jester with opportunities. What is he doing and why is he needed?
        1. Yegorchik
          Yegorchik 25 December 2019 16: 00
          -12
          Quote: shark
          Yes, a jester with opportunities. What is he doing and why is he needed?

          The most powerful weapons of propaganda, inflicting devastating blows to the brains of cheers-patriots.
    2. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 25 December 2019 13: 14
      -2
      Quote: kubanec
      It's cool, some kind of fantasy .....

      Quote: Hunter 2
      Quote: kubanec
      It's cool, some kind of fantasy .....

      Exactly good It’s very interesting, of course, what are its possibilities, I understand the secrecy! soldier

      of course "cool", and "poseidon" is also "cool" ...
      1. Fraracol_2
        Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 13: 45
        -19
        Yes, all cool, no matter how cool. And there is no tax in the world !!!
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 25 December 2019 15: 36
          +3
          And what - are there analogues?
          Oh yes, the ancient diggers of the seas have already invented much cooler.
    3. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 25 December 2019 13: 36
      -17
      In my opinion, this unit so far gives the impression of a grand props.
      The veil of secrecy serves to create the so-called. "wow effect" in the international arena.
      So far, apart from the same cartoon picture, nothing is visible. I'm not talking about a video or photo with the results of this unit.
      If there was something to show, they would certainly show.
      1. K-612-O
        K-612-O 25 December 2019 14: 17
        +7
        And the results of the action of thermonuclear charge you can not show in a dense urban area?
        1. x.andvlad
          x.andvlad 25 December 2019 14: 30
          -5
          Your enchanting "orstro-wit" does not convince me yet.
      2. Alexey-74
        Alexey-74 25 December 2019 15: 24
        +7
        https://weekend.rambler.ru/read/39761898-kak-i-kogda-sssr-primenyal-lazernoe-oruzhie/
        Read the link on the development of laser weapons in the USSR in 60-70 years. 20th century. And taking into account modern technologies, I think Russia has achieved excellent results in this direction.
    4. Mar.Tirah
      Mar.Tirah 25 December 2019 13: 40
      +2
      Quote: kubanec
      It's cool, some kind of fantasy .....

      Moreover, this cool was created in the Soviet Union. I heard about combat lasers from a person who worked with them back in 1980, at the research institute from PO, "POLUS" They are still working, in particular on spacecraft. I still remember the story as cut masonry like welding.
      1. IGOR GORDEEV
        IGOR GORDEEV 25 December 2019 14: 38
        +3
        Quote: Mar. Tira
        I still remember the story of how they cut brickwork as welding.

        And it was a colossus with a five-story building - no mobility.
      2. Alexey-74
        Alexey-74 25 December 2019 15: 25
        +1
        Precisely and even earlier, in 1964, the beginning of development in the USSR
      3. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 25 December 2019 16: 55
        -6
        Quote: Mar. Tira
        .On combat lasers I heard from a person who worked with them back in 1980,

        and for the first time I heard from my father, and he from his father (my grandfather), and he read as early as 1930 ... about "engineer Garin ..." yes
  2. Operator
    Operator 25 December 2019 13: 03
    +12
    "Peresvety" - flowers, and the berries are:

    MOSCOW, December 24, 2019 - RIA News
    Tests of the new Sarmat intercontinental ballistic missile are scheduled to be completed in 2021, Russian President Vladimir Putin reported during a tour of an exhibition of modern weapons and equipment at the National Defense Control Center of the Russian Federation. Work continues on the creation of the Sarmat missile system with a heavy-class intercontinental ballistic missile with improved characteristics. The possibility of a suborbital flight "Sarmat" at a distance 35 thousand kilometers "It will allow covering the entire range of missile systems' use within the world," the center said.

    Plus, a few days ago, Vladimir Putin announced the beginning of the adaptation of the Zircon missile launcher in the form of medium-range cruise missiles based on the Iskander-M launcher.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 25 December 2019 13: 17
      +1
      Quote: Operator
      The possibility of a suborbital flight "Sarmat" at a distance of 35 thousand kilometers "will cover the entire range of missile systems use within the globe," the center said.

      with a length of the equator of about 40 km ... we do not "reach ourselves", thank God ... yes
      1. Operator
        Operator 25 December 2019 13: 19
        +5
        Purely orbiting missiles are prohibited by the treaty on the non-deployment of nuclear weapons in space.
        1. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 25 December 2019 13: 21
          -1
          Quote: Operator
          Purely orbiting missiles are prohibited by the treaty on the non-deployment of nuclear weapons in space.

          "agreements" have always been "wiped" ... remind?
          1. Operator
            Operator 25 December 2019 13: 22
            +3
            It will be necessary, we will have a shoot.
            1. Fraracol_2
              Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 13: 47
              -14
              Nobody seems to doubt this?
              1. Operator
                Operator 25 December 2019 13: 48
                +2
                Doubted - Aerodromny laughing
                1. Aerodrome
                  Aerodrome 25 December 2019 14: 06
                  -6
                  Quote: Operator
                  Doubted - Aerodromny laughing

                  yeah ... and according to Ribbentrop, and according to START, and according to YAN and and other "abvgdeiks" ... "the United States will not come close to our borders" vaapche ... "kidalovo" all around ... glad that you are a believer .. . (put a candle).
                  1. Operator
                    Operator 25 December 2019 14: 08
                    0
                    Quote: Aerodrome
                    "the USA will not come close to our borders"

                    In this case, there was no agreement - Gorbi went wrong / sold out.
            2. Good_Anonymous
              Good_Anonymous 25 December 2019 14: 54
              -3
              Quote: Operator
              It will be necessary, we will have a shoot.


              The other side also knows how. And last time it ended not very well.
              1. Operator
                Operator 25 December 2019 14: 57
                0
                Quote: Good_Anonymous
                Other side

                It was about the possibilities of our side.
                1. Good_Anonymous
                  Good_Anonymous 25 December 2019 14: 59
                  -2
                  Quote: Operator
                  It was about the possibilities of our side.


                  When it comes to weapons, one should also think about the capabilities of the opponent.
                  1. Operator
                    Operator 25 December 2019 15: 02
                    +1
                    When they conclude an agreement (not only on armaments), they always work out the procedure for their actions in case of its termination.
                    1. Good_Anonymous
                      Good_Anonymous 25 December 2019 15: 05
                      0
                      Probably being developed. And both sides. And following this plan is always less profitable than an agreement - otherwise the agreement would not have been concluded. And, before wiping the contract, it would be nice to think about whether the opponent’s backup plan would be better.
                      1. Operator
                        Operator 25 December 2019 15: 14
                        0
                        The United States terminated the ABM Treaty - received a response in the form of Vanguard and Poseidon, terminated the INF Treaty - received Zircon and Rubezh, wants to terminate the START Treaty - will receive Petrel and 20 Sarmat regiments.

                        Walking a rake, no?
                      2. Good_Anonymous
                        Good_Anonymous 25 December 2019 15: 28
                        -3
                        Quote: Operator
                        The US terminated the ABM Treaty - received a response in the form of Vanguard and Poseidon, terminated the INF Treaty - received Zircon and Rubezh


                        Neither Poseidon nor Zircon have been received yet. The effectiveness of the Vanguard, let's say, raises questions.

                        Quote: Operator
                        will receive "Petrel" and 20 regiments of "Sarmat".


                        The development and production of this luxury (which can only be applied with a grant of mutual suicide) will eat quite real resources. For this, to withdraw from the contract?

                        Quote: Operator
                        Walking a rake, no?


                        Union lost the rake race. So I do not understand the characters who are eager to arrange a rematch, not having even half that power. Or the assumption that under socialism it did not work out - let's try under capitalism? smile
                      3. Yves762
                        Yves762 25 December 2019 16: 03
                        +1
                        Quote: Good_Anonymous
                        Union lost the rake race.

                        Yeah. The current does not stand on the side from which the "mass" usually understand this.

                        Quote: Good_Anonymous
                        So I do not understand the characters who are eager to arrange a rematch, not having even half that power. Or the assumption that under socialism it did not work out - let's try under capitalism?


                        And you say that for the rest of the world, the same States, it’s not in Russia that the light converged ... feel
                        Or, at least, much less than in the Union at one time ...
                      4. Good_Anonymous
                        Good_Anonymous 25 December 2019 16: 09
                        0
                        Quote: Yves762
                        Union lost the rake race.

                        Yeah. The current does not stand on the side from which the "mass" usually understand this.


                        I would ask from which side "they usually understand this", but this does not apply to the topic.

                        Quote: Yves762
                        And you say that for the rest of the world, the same States, it’s not in Russia that the light converged ...


                        And you definitely wanted to say that to me? smile But, just for the record - I know that.
                      5. Yves762
                        Yves762 25 December 2019 17: 00
                        0
                        Quote: Good_Anonymous
                        And you definitely wanted to say that to me? But, just for the record - I know that.

                        Toda should be for you (IMHO) it is obvious that the arms race (and not only) long goes ; regardless from hotelok and attempts of Russia, which will either pull and match either slide mark marking the 3rd world countries. And consequently,
                        The development and production of this luxury (which can only be applied with a grant of mutual suicide) ...
                        there is a "lesser sacrifice" to guarantee the safety of Libya, Iraq, Yugoslavia (there was one) ... and so on. The story with North Korea is a clear example and a guarantee. soldier In your statements, I did not see an understanding of this obvious above.
                      6. Good_Anonymous
                        Good_Anonymous 25 December 2019 17: 11
                        -1
                        Quote: Yves762
                        Toda


                        Do you need to distort Russian?

                        Quote: Yves762
                        regardless of hotelok and attempts of Russia, which will either pull and match


                        China once professed the wise concept of a monkey watching two tigers fight from a tree.

                        Quote: Yves762
                        or slide down the mark separating countries of the 3rd world.


                        For example, how ... France? Germany? Japan? Awful fate, yes.

                        Quote: Yves762
                        The story of North Korea is a good example and guarantee. soldier


                        The story with North Korea shows that for security, an incomprehensible number of missiles of dubious combat capability is enough.

                        Quote: Yves762
                        In your statements, I did not see an understanding of this obvious above.


                        And I didn’t see in your statements the understanding of the obvious that the proposed one didn’t overpower even the Union, which was many times larger, had decent science and education, and even had allies.
                      7. Yves762
                        Yves762 25 December 2019 18: 16
                        +1
                        Quote: Good_Anonymous
                        China once professed the wise concept of a monkey watching two tigers fight from a tree.

                        Looks like this "monkey" had to get drums like DF-41 laughing .
                        Quote: Good_Anonymous
                        For example, how ... France? Germany? Japan? Awful fate, yes.

                        Nope. And here.?.
                        Force to repeat. For example - this is Libya, Iraq, Yugoslavia (it was like that) ... etc.
                        And why did you decide that they would behave with Russia as with these "relatives"? Or the imposition (yes, it is the "imposition") of the "gas station" format - is there a wonderful destiny ??? what
                        On the other hand, France, Germany, Japan licked their lips with the States while the Union was. And now they, well-fed lambs, are still "sacrificed" to the well-being of the onny states.
                        Quote: Good_Anonymous
                        The story with North Korea shows that for security, an incomprehensible number of missiles of dubious combat capability is enough.

                        The story of North Korea shows that for security necessaryrather than "enough". There and not only (very much) "an incomprehensible number of missiles of dubious combat effectiveness" was ... - by the way.
                        Quote: Good_Anonymous
                        But I did not see in your statements the understanding of the obvious that what you proposed did not even master the Union ...

                        And not because of the "rockets" it fell apart.
                        The Union has mastered missiles, and much more ... It's a pity - not everything.
                        But it is not important; (force again to repeat wassat )
                        will either pull and fit, or slide
                        , And
                        regardless of Wishlist and attempts
                        .
                      8. Good_Anonymous
                        Good_Anonymous 25 December 2019 18: 26
                        0
                        Quote: Yves762
                        the "monkey" had to get drins like DF-41 laughing.


                        And the monkey got a second world economy. Now maybe drin afford.

                        Quote: Yves762
                        Force to repeat. For example - this is Libya, Iraq, Yugoslavia (there was one) ... etc.


                        Forcing yourself to repeat - see above about North Korea. And moreover, I personally think that the Russian army is capable of making aggression against the Russian Federation unprofitable without even using nuclear weapons.

                        Quote: Yves762
                        On the other hand, France, Germany, Japan licked their lips with the States while the Union was. And now they, well-fed lambs, are still "sacrificed" to the well-being of the onny states.


                        In reality, all these "victims" are getting better and better. Some would even say that they are mad about fat with their "green energy".

                        Quote: Yves762
                        The Union has mastered missiles, and much more ...


                        The Union could do a lot, yes. But he is no more.

                        Quote: Yves762

                        or

                        ...

                        out


                        Apocalyptic forecasts are cheap. How many of them were in the last 30 years - you won’t even remember.
                      9. Yves762
                        Yves762 25 December 2019 19: 29
                        -1
                        Quote: Good_Anonymous
                        And the monkey got a second world economy. Now maybe drin afford.

                        crying Yes, be afraid of Zedong !!!
                        She decided to "afford" cores of bonba back in the 50s of the 20th (!), When there was still "no" economy in the world! And she sawed drins like this since the 60s, and this is still no "new thinking" of Deng Xiaoping, with his economic reforms ...

                        Quote: Good_Anonymous
                        And moreover, I personally think that the Russian army is capable of making aggression against the Russian Federation unprofitable without even using nuclear weapons.

                        Let's say. That's just ... what , a sufficient number of non-nuclear women to "make aggression against the Russian Federation unprofitable" is cheaper, you mean?
                        feel Funny. Especially in comparison, even with a country with a printing press "evergreen".
                        Quote: Good_Anonymous
                        In reality, all these "victims" are getting better and better. Some would even say that they are mad about fat with their "green energy".

                        Ага. lol
                        One of these victims has had protests for more than a year (apparently the Greenpeace employees because of the "green energy" .. feel .) ...
                        Another - cramps on Brexit comes ...
                        The third for gas and migrants "shrinks" as a well-known site for diarrhea .. wassat ..
                        I don’t even remember about Eastern European.
                        Quote: Good_Anonymous
                        The Union could do a lot, yes. But he is no more.

                        Nothing fundamentally prevents you from returning, no, but, in the best moments, becoming like ...

                        Quote: Good_Anonymous
                        Apocalyptic forecasts are cheap. How many of them were in the last 30 years - you won’t even remember.

                        I'll say it roughly, but to the point ...: "Better to reboot .... than to miss (b)!soldier "
                        To a reasonable extent, of course ...

                        In general, Russia has recently already had a period of "disarmament" and "adherence" to treaties - this is me about the period (+/-) from the time of "Marked" to 2008 ...

                        Ps You know, you will excuse me, of course, but I already understand everything, and that's enough. "Combed up".
                        For sim, on everything further, I can only recommend the following ...

                        Hope it helps .. laughing ..
                      10. Good_Anonymous
                        Good_Anonymous 25 December 2019 20: 19
                        0
                        Quote: Yves762
                        She decided to "afford" cores of bonba back in the 50s of the 20th (!)


                        You were not talking about nuclear bombs (which they allowed themselves in the 60s, not in the 50s), but specifically about the DF-41.

                        Quote: Yves762
                        a sufficient number of non-nuclear women to "make aggression against the Russian Federation unprofitable" is cheaper, you mean?


                        Firstly, cheaper - North Korea has proven it. Secondly, they are already there.

                        Quote: Yves762
                        In general, Russia has recently already had a period of "disarmament" and "adherence" to treaties - this is me about the period (+/-) from the time of "Marked" to 2008 ...


                        Yes, it was especially bad without nuclear bombs in 2008. Everywhere a crisis, without them would have disappeared altogether. And since then it has become even better!

                        Quote: Yves762
                        For sim, on everything further, I can only recommend the following ...


                        Posters are bad at fighting reality smile
                      11. Fraracol_2
                        Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 17: 44
                        -4
                        For whom a rake, the Union puffed up, but overcame. 20 regiments there, 20 here, the economy and budget are unfortunately not rubber.
                      12. Operator
                        Operator 25 December 2019 18: 35
                        -2
                        What are the problems - go for permanent residence in a country where everything is safe. And if you have already left, then wait for the distribution of heat and light from "Sarmat" am
                      13. Good_Anonymous
                        Good_Anonymous 25 December 2019 20: 21
                        0
                        Quote: Operator
                        wait for the distribution of heat and light from "Sarmat"


                        Do you really want to die?
                      14. Fraracol_2
                        Fraracol_2 26 December 2019 18: 10
                        0
                        And in your understanding, "safely" - the extra 20 regiments of strategic missiles?
                      15. Aerodrome
                        Aerodrome 25 December 2019 18: 39
                        0
                        Quote: Operator
                        The United States terminated the ABM Treaty - received a response in the form of Vanguard and Poseidon, terminated the INF Treaty - received Zircon and Rubezh, wants to terminate the START Treaty - will receive Petrel and 20 Sarmat regiments.

                        Walking a rake, no?
                        Are there too many cartoons? wassat
                      16. Operator
                        Operator 25 December 2019 18: 54
                        -4
                        Something you yourself went on a rake: catch our "cartoons" - "Caliber", "Daggers" Crimean bridges (road and rail), "Vanguards", "Peresvety".

                        In the near future we will add "Zircons", Sarmatov "," Poseidons "and" Petrel "- so that you sleep better in Israel laughing
        2. kupitman
          kupitman 25 December 2019 13: 30
          0
          Iac Sarmat suborbital
        3. Alexey-74
          Alexey-74 25 December 2019 15: 28
          +1
          The issue here is not placement, as weapons are not placed in space, but will be used. And in the event of a global war (God forbid) no one will look at the contract
      2. Fraracol_2
        Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 13: 47
        -13
        Yes, you can sleep soundly. And then suddenly a couple of digits will be mixed up during data entry !!
      3. Roman070280
        Roman070280 25 December 2019 14: 09
        -10
        Well, from Kamchatka in Voronezh you can try ..))
    2. ugol2
      ugol2 25 December 2019 13: 26
      +7
      Quote: Operator
      range of 35 thousand kilometers

      belay
      In invented what it would be.
      And probably to hit Ijirlik through the South Pole.
      - Where did it come from?
      - request , from there from somewhere ...
    3. opus
      opus 25 December 2019 14: 23
      +2
      Quote: Operator
      The possibility of a suborbital flight of "Sarmat" at a range of 35 thousand kilometers "will cover the entire range of the range of missile systems use within the world

      35000 km - this was written by a man obviously stupid

      l
      Starting weight:
      - with RGCH IN 15F173 - 211.4 t
      - with warheads of the "light" class 15F175 - 211.1
      Mass of the head:
      - with RGCH IN 15F173 - 8.73 t
      - with warhead "light" class 15F175 - 8.47 t
      Fuel mass:
      - I stage - 150.2 t
      - II stage - 37.6 t
      - breeding steps - 2.1 t
      The coefficient of energy-weight perfection Gпг / Go - 42.1 kgf / tf

      Maximum range:
      - with RGCH IN 15F173 (10 BB with a capacity of 0,8 Mt) and KSP PRO - 11000 km
      - with "light" monoblock warhead 15F175 8,3 Mt and KSP PRO - 16000 km
      QUO - 220 m

      Dimensions of silos - the same, TPK - the same
      The mass of the product has hardly changed (everything is on the same "base"), there is no qualitative leap in the UI (296) and thrust (144 tf), the same AT + NDMG, well, the electronics have become 30% lighter, but it is minuscule there, the case also AMg-6
      WHERE IS 35000 KM?
      This is possible if the BG is delivered from the Bulava, and even then it is unlikely.
      Who needs such a delivery price? a Delivery time of the "gift"?

      To fly through the South Pole, the warhead will have to be lowered into low Earth orbit. You can throw along a steeper curve - the arc of an ellipse, but then the energy consumption will be greater, and the flight time to the target will exceed 1.5 hours. But even if you fly in a circular orbit, it’s essential faster than 1.5 hours before the US not reach

      1,5 hour.......
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 25 December 2019 16: 51
        -4
        Quote: opus
        35000 km - this was written by a man obviously stupid

        it is said with restraint ... I would say: finished, but I won’t say it, otherwise they will ban me! yes
  3. Advisor to the Council of Advisers
    Advisor to the Council of Advisers 25 December 2019 13: 04
    +4
    Blinding satellites during maneuvers of missile systems is a necessary thing (old routes can be changed playing hide and seek)
    But on the anti-ballistic defense of overexposure, they will not tell us yet.
    1. seregin-s1
      seregin-s1 25 December 2019 13: 14
      +2
      Can burn optics? Laser all the same.)
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 25 December 2019 13: 31
        -4
        Quote: Advisor to the Council of Advisers
        Blinding satellites during maneuvers of missile systems is a necessary thing (old routes can be changed playing hide and seek)
        But on the anti-ballistic defense of overexposure, they will not tell us yet.

        Quote: seregin-s1
        Can burn optics? Laser all the same.)

        here as if ideas were going to throw the enemy. tongues grind!
      2. Fraracol_2
        Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 13: 48
        -10
        Bullshit. They will poke through the smoked glass.
  4. knn54
    knn54 25 December 2019 13: 09
    +1
    It turns out that the tests are recognized as successful, and the shortcomings are eliminated.
  5. Svetlana
    Svetlana 25 December 2019 13: 25
    -5
    Hmm ...
    - how the Sarmatians take off, showed
    - how to somersault, that is, aerobatics SU-57, showed
    - how the Armats shoot, showed ..

    PIA-PIA-PIA have not been shown, so I, a couch expert, admit that these are fairy tales for partners. :)
    1. AlexG83
      AlexG83 25 December 2019 14: 07
      +2
      Quote: Svetlana
      Hmm ...
      - how the Sarmatians take off, showed
      - how to somersault, that is, aerobatics SU-57, showed
      - how the Armats shoot, showed ..

      PIA-PIA-PIA have not been shown, so I, a couch expert, admit that these are fairy tales for partners. :)

      Your theory is the sweet dream of almost any Lebiroid, killing 2 birds with one stone:
      1 - No Peresvet.
      2 - Full-scale deception of the Russian public, which will entail a loss of confidence in the president, government and the military.
      So keep all sorts of unhealthy ideas to yourself.
      1. Roman070280
        Roman070280 25 December 2019 14: 13
        -5
        1. In the furnace of all liberoids ..
        2. Rather, I agree with Sergei about the piu-piu, and that the "idea" is quite healthy ..
      2. Svetlana
        Svetlana 25 December 2019 14: 21
        +1
        You will understand if you are in my post, the word Tales replace with the word desa, which was used and used in all cold and hot wars. And the confidence in our Country, for all of us, will increase even more if its leadership forces the so-called "partners" to fork out in vain. Just as they did in 1983, they began to fork out the Soviet Union.
        What about keep it with you, I will say briefly: Do not teach me how to live. (And don't get personal)
      3. balunn
        balunn 25 December 2019 14: 35
        -2
        Your opponent may also be right.
        Work on some of the things shown by GDP in cartoons about 2 years ago was stopped in the USSR in 60-70 years. Until about 2010, the defense industry was held by the enthusiasm of individuals and all development was financed mostly from the internal resources of the enterprise. The state order was greatly curtailed and here for 10 years of the second term it’s just a breakthrough .... new developments immediately enter the series, work on closed projects for 10 years immediately bear fruit and are embodied in metal. Miracles are just ....
        As an example ... A buoy (which was launched with such pathos not so long ago) was designed 20 years ago, if not more. In any case, the project on it in 2000 was ready for implementation in metal. Then they began to build, then they suspended it .....
  6. DMB-2020
    DMB-2020 25 December 2019 13: 29
    -1
    The Death Star is already in our time! Previously, they only read about it in science fiction stories, but now modern hyperboloids threaten other planets from the Strategic Missile Forces! Only, it seems to me, the "Peresvet" complexes will not add stealth to mobile ground-based missile systems (PGRK) from the Strategic Missile Forces. Suppose that the "Poplar" complex itself can be hidden somewhere else, but when that bandura is also dragged behind it, for cover, then you can already forget about the secrecy of the "Topol" movement.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 13: 45
      +1
      along past the poplar there are dozens of cars, + 1 does not change anything
      1. Fraracol_2
        Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 13: 50
        -10
        Then, from where does it shine, is it possible to strike there? Or how?
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 13: 53
          +3
          all performance characteristics are classified, as well as the appointment, too
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            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 14: 20
              +2
              if you want to crow, here is the news that this complex is on combat duty and another is not required
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                      4. bk316
                        bk316 25 December 2019 16: 43
                        +1
                        In reality, so far we have only crowing ..

                        Yes, and the Crimean bridge is also a cartoon. Heard, read.
                        Continue in the same spirit....
                        Especially you neophytes threw freshly registered.
                        Well, grants will probably come too.
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                    2. balunn
                      balunn 25 December 2019 16: 27
                      +2
                      Novel, Khrushchev pounded with a slipper for a reason .... there was a military thermonuclear fusion. And by the year 60, the nuclear industry already produced enough products.
                      And Stalin .... Stalin knew perfectly what the United States was preparing. And he was a winner in the war. With the most powerful army in the world.
                      And both of them could afford it, because were independent and a huge country stood behind them
                      BUT:
                      They were silent about their secret and new developments. What now? Why is it all dumped out? Or scare, or frighten, or .....
          2. balunn
            balunn 25 December 2019 14: 49
            -1
            why then shout about it all over the world?
            If there is - good .... will be an unpleasant surprise for friends
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 14: 52
              +1
              where are the screams? said calmly that the country's defense is developing
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                  2. balunn
                    balunn 25 December 2019 16: 08
                    0
                    What for? Something no one in due time showed the legendary guards mortar "Katyusha". And what an unpleasant surprise she delivered. laughing
                    1. Nastia makarova
                      Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 16: 10
                      +1
                      and the t-34 was also a pleasant surprise
          3. Fraracol_2
            Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 17: 12
            -4
            Thank God, I was worried.
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    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 25 December 2019 14: 21
      +1
      Quote: DMB-2020
      Suppose that the Topol complex itself

      Dear, Poplars, like Poplars-M, have been withdrawn from service and replaced by YaRS .. and the defense industry of Topol-M has ceased to be purchased already in 2011.
      1. DMB-2020
        DMB-2020 25 December 2019 23: 23
        -3
        Not respected, it is not "Topoli" or "Topoli-M" or even "YARS" that are being discussed, since, in terms of targets against the background of the Earth, they differ little from each other. It is discussed that an additional pribluda not intended for similar tasks with PGRK complexes - will unmask the indicated complexes. It's like for a nuclear submarine to attach liferafts to a rope. As if - they increase the crew's chances of salvation, but, on the other hand, - they unmask this very submarine. Is that clearer to you?
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 26 December 2019 01: 01
          -2
          Quote: DMB-2020
          So do you understand?

          Not respected, you will tell your wife about the unmask before bedtime. Why? Are you aware of the range of Relight? Anyway, what does he do: does it burn rockets to zero, or destroy optics, can it work on satellites ... and from here, the distance at which this complex should and can be based.
          As for your congress about Poplar, you don’t need to shag your grandmother here, Not respected. Now everywhere YaRS already. And what doesn’t matter if it’s Poplar or YRS, then there’s a masterpiece of idiocy, since what is capable of overcoming the YRS (I'm talking about missile defense), Poplar is very likely to fail (because of the large acceleration section), so how the AJIS will land it on this site.
          Turn on the brains, not respected, and do not eat raw tomatoes at night.
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            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 26 December 2019 08: 08
              0
              in MO are not fools, everyone is smarter than you
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  7. askort154
    askort154 25 December 2019 13: 29
    0
    "We were born to make a fairy tale come true"! (engineer Garin soldier )
  8. Operator
    Operator 25 December 2019 13: 44
    0
    Quote: ugol2
    Ijirlik through the South Field

    In the USA - from the direction where there are no SPRN radars and missile defense bases.

    Well, to the heap of Australia with New Zealand - Schaub life there did not seem to be honey bully
    1. Inspector
      Inspector 26 December 2019 23: 05
      +1
      Decision centers have long been in Australia. so no laughing matter.
  9. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 25 December 2019 13: 50
    +1
    Wow! As many as 5 powerful lasers are put on combat duty.
    Moreover, in just a year.
    Maybe they will show at least a little?
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 14: 21
      0
      no one else in the world has this !!!
      1. Fraracol_2
        Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 17: 30
        -7
        The horse is clear, having no analogues in the world!
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 26 December 2019 08: 01
          +1
          envy in Kiev !!!!
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 25 December 2019 15: 34
      0
      Most likely there are 20 of them - 4 per missile division, overlapping from four directions north, south, west, east.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 25 December 2019 15: 42
        -1
        Pictures of Google Earth will appear, it will become more clear what and how ...
  10. cniza
    cniza 25 December 2019 13: 57
    +3
    Shoigu: The Ministry of Defense has completed the deployment of combat lasers "Relight"


    Kozhugetovich trolled the United States and NATO ... lol
  11. Azimuth
    Azimuth 25 December 2019 14: 05
    +1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Wow! As many as 5 powerful lasers are put on combat duty.
    Moreover, in just a year.
    Maybe they will show at least a little?

    It is likely that during the demonstration, probable methods of protection from Relight will come out. No one wants to take on the sink. Or they will show such a misinformation so that the brain swells among analysts.
  12. Old26
    Old26 25 December 2019 14: 27
    +3
    Quote: Nastia Makarova
    along past the poplar there are dozens of cars, + 1 does not change anything

    If only one ...
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 25 December 2019 14: 55
      -1
      here I am talking about it, that secrecy does not suffer from it
  13. Operator
    Operator 25 December 2019 14: 30
    +3
    Quote: opus
    it was written by a man obviously stupid

    Self-criticism is welcome laughing

    An increase in pressure in the combustion chamber, a decrease in the weight of military equipment - no, they have not heard.
  14. rocket757
    rocket757 25 December 2019 14: 55
    0
    Peresvet lasers are among the latest Russian weapons,

    Run-in battle any equipment must pass.
    1. Inspector
      Inspector 26 December 2019 23: 08
      +1
      Governors and Stilettos, for example.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 27 December 2019 04: 30
        0
        It's too much. Doomsday weapons, we won’t check at all.
  15. Dargavs
    Dargavs 25 December 2019 15: 00
    +2
    Quote: Fraancol_2
    Then, from where does it shine, is it possible to strike there? Or how?

    Answer: Then from where the rocket takes off, it turns out and you can beat! But u do not need it, since no one needs it anymore :)
  16. G. Georgiev
    G. Georgiev 25 December 2019 15: 05
    +2
    Laser "Peresvet", real and has a beam power of 1-3 MW !!! Congratulations !!! Weak experimental American and Israeli 100kW lasers, weather dependent.
    1. Fraracol_2
      Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 17: 32
      -6
      Does this one depend on the weather? As a last resort, ask the Duma to repeal the corresponding laws of physics.
      1. G. Georgiev
        G. Georgiev 25 December 2019 18: 15
        +1
        Weather does not matter with a 2MW beam. Stand in front and you will see.
    2. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 25 December 2019 21: 49
      -2
      Quote: G. Georgiev
      ! Weak experimental American and Israeli 100kW lasers depending on the weather.

      The THEL / MTHEL complex was based on a chemical laser using deuterium fluoride. This product was supposed to develop power. up to 2 MW which, according to calculations, was enough to destroy artillery shells and unguided missiles in flight.
      1. G. Georgiev
        G. Georgiev 26 December 2019 02: 46
        0
        The most powerful American laser is installed on the ship - 1 pc. This is 200 kW. All other samples below 150 kW
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 26 December 2019 10: 26
          0
          Quote: G. Georgiev
          The most powerful American laser is installed on the ship - 1 pc. This is 200 kW. All other samples below 150 kW


          In 1974, a laser weapons research program was launched. With the participation of IAI and Rafael, the main aspects of such weapons were investigated and prototypes built. In addition, it was possible to draw conclusions and determine the prospects of the entire direction.
          In early 2014, the Israeli company Rafael first introduced a new missile defense project called “Keren Barzel” (“Iron Ray”).
          In 2018, the first reports appeared, according to which Israel could have another tactical-level missile defense laser system. So far, very little is known about him,
          Of open sources it is known that in Israel no less than two or three promising missile defense systems have been developed that can hit targets with a high-power directional laser beam
          06.12.18/XNUMX/XNUMX. The former head of IAFAT and ICA, Major General (res.) Yitzhak Ben-Israel, said that a technological breakthrough has been achieved that will allow Israel to get a system laser missile defense for one year., that we are talking about mobile missile defense systems. And they cannot give hermetic protection, but the level of interception is "close to 100%."
  17. vanavatny
    vanavatny 25 December 2019 15: 08
    +5
    I agree with the liberal-Ukrainian experts presented here: a combat laser is the same nonsense as, for example, the Crimean bridge, with the train going over it, nonsense, I recommend getting rid of 90-s burps and ridiculous demands in the spirit of more sane citizens, show everything to me, I am a citizen and have the right to know ...
    1. G. Georgiev
      G. Georgiev 25 December 2019 17: 14
      0
      Not everything is shown to citizens. Even in America, there are secret, closed objects where American presidents are not allowed. This is true, and they are associated with technological work with 4 alien fractions located here. There are 4 types of alien creatures that come in contact with American services. This is true. Citizens do not know everything. So this powerful laser exists. Don `t doubt
      1. Fraracol_2
        Fraracol_2 25 December 2019 17: 34
        -5
        Thanks for the innermost knowledge, otherwise we would remain in the same ignorance as ordinary citizens. Did aliens help us too? Which of the fractions? And the 5th type of alien creatures is probably in contact with us. Can’t they betray 4th America?
        1. G. Georgiev
          G. Georgiev 25 December 2019 18: 08
          0
          there is a statement by Mr. Medvedev on this subject.
  18. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 25 December 2019 15: 14
    0
    Quote: IGOR GORDEEV
    And it was a colossus with a five-story building - no mobility

    I can’t say what it was, they didn’t tell me. I only heard about the two minerals they used in the test, one ruby ​​and forgot the name of the second?
  19. jonht
    jonht 25 December 2019 15: 36
    0
    The good news is that all the Strategic Missile Forces brigades covered up with Peresvet. Operational experience will reveal a miscalculation, they will make changes and already full-fledged complexes will stand on duty.
  20. Old26
    Old26 25 December 2019 15: 52
    +3
    Quote: Nastia Makarova
    here I am talking about it, that secrecy does not suffer from it

    Suffers. The cross-country ability of the machines of the "Peresvet" complex is not comparable with the cross-country ability of the machines of the "Yars" complex. ... "Peresvet" is unlikely to be able to drive along the same intersection as "Yarsy". In fact, the place of his movement is paved roads.

    Quote: Operator
    In the USA - from the direction where there are no SPRN radars and missile defense bases.

    Zone "South" of the Americans is covered by radars from the early warning system. The missile defense base is in California. And we still live with the ideas of the 60s, when the south of the USA was not covered by radars. We still hope so. I'm not even talking about the fact that the corresponding funds are placed in Australia ...

    Quote: opus
    The mass of the product has hardly changed (everything is on the same "base"), there is no qualitative leap in the UI (296) and thrust (144 tf), the same AT + NDMG, well, the electronics have become 30% lighter, but it is minuscule there, the case also AMg-6
    WHERE IS 35000 KM?

    1. The mass is likely to have changed. And I think that downward
    2. The thrust has increased. From 144 to 170 tons at sea level. The diameter of the engine has also increased, so there are fewer of them in the PTU-99 propulsion system than in the Voevoda. The total amount of fuel in the two stages is less.
    3. There are vague doubts about 10 tons of abandoned
    4. 35000 km can be obtained if there is one unit on the product and the cast weight is one ton and a half
  21. Old26
    Old26 25 December 2019 16: 07
    +2
    Quote: jonht
    The good news is that all the Strategic Missile Forces brigades covered up with Peresvet. Operational experience will reveal a miscalculation, they will make changes and already full-fledged complexes will stand on duty.

    Respected. There is no brigade in the Strategic Missile Forces. Exclusively DIVISIONS... And "Peresveta" is deployed in FIVE OF THIRTEEN DIVISIONS ...
  22. Old26
    Old26 25 December 2019 16: 42
    +3
    Quote: Vadim237
    Most likely there are 20 of them - 4 per missile division, overlapping from four directions north, south, west, east.

    Now there are 1 complex in divisions (at least hangars in the location of divisions for exactly one complex), which consists of:
    - combat vehicle with a combat optoelectronic system (laser);
    - energy module of the complex (car trailer);
    - power module control machine on the KAMAZ chassis;
    - command post vehicle on the KAMAZ chassis;
    - a machine for personnel on the KAMAZ chassis.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 25 December 2019 18: 07
      -1
      How do you know how much Peresvet is included in and where are they stored?
  23. faterdom
    faterdom 25 December 2019 17: 01
    +2
    Well, the optical means of aerial and space reconnaissance of the "partners" are in the red. Considering that our mobile missile systems already had many means of protection against detection, we will not mention which ones, the task is incredibly complicated. This makes me happy.
  24. Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 25 December 2019 18: 35
    0
    protect from drones
  25. Operator
    Operator 25 December 2019 18: 42
    0
    Quote: Good_Anonymous
    Union lost the rake race

    The Union lost the internal walking on the rake - the national union republics.

    In the Russian Federation, with 81% of Russian and autonomous republics, there is no such problem by definition.
    1. Good_Anonymous
      Good_Anonymous 25 December 2019 20: 27
      0
      This means that the Russian Federation from losing will not fall apart, like the Union. But, on the other hand, during the collapse of the Union, China sat on a tree and watched a tiger fight.
  26. GibSoN
    GibSoN 25 December 2019 21: 18
    -1
    I can imagine a discussion of a similar topic during the Soviet era)) Some kind of game ... Some are discussing the flat earth, others are making forecasts for laser-mobile installations ... Or the laws of physics have learned to bypass (well, yes, everyone was "stupid" before ... so much that now no one can do what was done before) or aliens in someone's friends)
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 25 December 2019 22: 23
      +2
      Quote: GibSoN
      I present a discussion of a similar topic in Soviet times))

      So what? And discussed. True, so quietly, in the kitchenettes ... or vice versa - they argued until they were hoarse, but in closed institutions or at the very top. And, by the way, the results of some "kitchen" disputes became the property of a wide audience in the form of science fiction works.
      And Soviet science fiction is very yes. yes And yes, those kitchen brawls were much more serious than the current bots spit with housewives. negative
  27. G. Georgiev
    G. Georgiev 25 December 2019 22: 14
    +2
    Laser "Peresvet", real and powerful. It is noted that it performs the functions of both air defense and missile defense. Comments don't matter. Well done Russian engineers!
  28. Connor MacLeod
    Connor MacLeod 25 December 2019 23: 41
    -4
    The Peresvet lasers are among the latest Russian weapons, the characteristics of the complex have not been disclosed. According to military experts, laser systems perform the tasks of air defense and missile defense.

    fool
    1. G. Georgiev
      G. Georgiev 26 December 2019 03: 00
      0
      Yes ! 25 MW. The mobile nuclear reactor, which is designed to power the Peresvet laser, with a power of 2 MW, is enough to work as an air defense and missile defense system.
      1. Connor MacLeod
        Connor MacLeod 26 December 2019 04: 18
        -2
        Why if there are conventional air defense systems like Tor and Pantsyr capable of working on several targets simultaneously and on the march?
        1. G. Georgiev
          G. Georgiev 26 December 2019 04: 28
          +2
          Approximately: 1. Combat resources of air defense systems, limited to a certain amount. 2. The missile may be deflected through the REB system.
          1. Connor MacLeod
            Connor MacLeod 26 December 2019 04: 48
            -2
            1. The aforementioned air defense systems have sufficient ammunition in order to simultaneously attack several targets at once, I emphasize on the march. Relight can attack only one and from a place. Well, and who has limited resources?

            2. What kind of enemy can have electronic warfare systems at the deployment sites of our PGRK?
            1. G. Georgiev
              G. Georgiev 26 December 2019 05: 11
              0
              1. This year, the Pantsyr SAM, was destroyed in Syria by the Israeli Air Force. The video was shown. The complex was, with spent missiles. 2 The Israeli REB system, was launched against the Syrian air defense systems, a month ago. I saw how Syrian missiles from air defense systems constantly took off and immediately exploded at an altitude of 500 meters.
              1. Connor MacLeod
                Connor MacLeod 26 December 2019 06: 00
                -2
                1. You just need to turn on the radar more often and use automatic guns.

                2. You did not answer my question. EW funds on stealth bombers and cruise missiles? Could you elaborate on this?
  29. G. Georgiev
    G. Georgiev 26 December 2019 06: 27
    0
    REB "Vitebsk" (the system is installed on helicopters) and mobile, REB "Infuana" (for protection, a tank column in motion) protect against missiles, but these REB systems are helpless from a laser attack.
  30. Old26
    Old26 26 December 2019 12: 54
    +1
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: DMB-2020
    Suppose that the Topol complex itself

    Dear, Poplars, like Poplars-M, have been withdrawn from service and replaced by YaRS .. and the defense industry of Topol-M has ceased to be purchased already in 2011.

    Quote: NEXUS
    As for your congress about Poplar, you don’t need to shag your grandmother here, Not respected. Now everywhere YaRS already.

    Dear Andrey! Sorry, but you are talking nonsense in these two posts. To be honest, I did not expect this from you. Of all that you have written, only the fact that Topol-M ceased to be purchased in 2011 is true.
    As for the fact that only "Yars" remained and everything else ("Topol", "Topol-M") is gone, this is not true. Yes, the rearmament is proceeding, not very quickly (as long as the plant can produce ICBMs, they put so much into service), then both Topol and Topol-M are in service. "poplar" in at least 2 divisions - Barnaul (4 regiments) and Rezhitskaya (at least 2 regiments). The first (Barnaul) is planned to be re-equipped with Yars-S from 2020. Rezhitskaya - KhZ, but surely after Barnaul
    The Topol-M complex is in service with the Tatishchevsk division (6 regiments, 60 silos) and two regiments of the Teikovo division (there are 18 mobile ones). In total, there are seventy-eight Topol-M missiles in service. Everywhere "Yarsy" will be in the year 2 2025-2027, not earlier ...

    Quote: Vadim237
    How do you know how much Peresvet is included in and where are they stored?

    Dear Vadim. I didn't quite get it. Have you been banned everywhere, except for Voenniy Obozreniye, that you are asking such a stupid question? Shoigu announced the number of deployed Peresvet complexes, saying that they were deployed in the positional areas of FIVE missile divisions. I can name three of them. If desired, on the same resource "Military rush" you can find satellite photos of the bases of these complexes (three divisions out of five) and the approximate structure of the complex ...
  31. aesculapius
    aesculapius 27 December 2019 07: 02
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    Based on the logic - if the weapons are secret, then why declare them? Let it be a surprise that would increase the effectiveness of its application. And so it's all show off, train your opponents.