Georgian President: We have neither army nor weapons

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Georgia is discussing a statement made by President Salome Zurabishvili.

Ms. Zurabishvili said the following words:



We do not have neither the army nor weapons, and there will be none. And we do not have such great economic potential to quickly conquer the region. But we have other weapons. This is our knowledge, science and education.

This statement was criticized by political opponents of Zurabishvili, as well as members of the government. The Minister of Defense of Georgia Irakli Garibashvili was offended by the president’s statement. According to him, the Georgian army is "very strong."

Garibashvili:

I want to bring to the attention of the president: we have real military heroes. And the statements made by the president, who is the supreme commander in chief, look completely unacceptable.

Mikheil Saakashvili, who is outside Georgia, said that the words of the Georgian president are "insulting to the Georgian army, which in 2008 for the first time after the Afghan war shot down 13 or 14 Russian combat aircraft and wounded the Russian general for the first time after World War II."

The Georgian president’s administration said that Ms. Zurabishvili was "misunderstood." It is noted that the president talked about how to establish itself in Georgia, and that this should be done "not by force, but by science." The environment of Zurabishvili accused political opponents of constantly trying to hurt her with “words taken out of context, or arguments about her“ wrong ”costume at official meetings.”
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  1. +24
    11 December 2019 17: 00
    Georgian President: We have neither army nor weapons

    But there is the biggest good choir in the world. wassat
    1. +18
      11 December 2019 17: 06
      hi Yes, they only talk to the enemy toasts to death Yes
    2. +3
      11 December 2019 17: 09
      Quote: NEXUS
      Georgian President: We have neither army nor weapons

      But there is the biggest good choir in the world. wassat


      And other clowns like Sabakashvili are also missing.
      1. 0
        11 December 2019 17: 42
        And not only Saakashvili ....
        1. 0
          11 December 2019 17: 48
          Quote: 4ekist
          And not only Saakashvili ....


          They have the brightest of local stars.
          1. +8
            11 December 2019 21: 38
            Quote: NF68
            Quote: 4ekist
            And not only Saakashvili ....


            They have the brightest of local stars.

            They and the previous Minister of Defense was hoo!
            Interestingly, the ties on the Minister’s buttons are arranged in the sequence of the Russian tricolor.
            1. NKT
              +6
              11 December 2019 22: 46
              Where did she manage to grab so many awards? Of course, in comparison with the DPRK generals, she still has to swim and swim, but an application for a person wink
              1. +2
                11 December 2019 22: 51
                Quote: NKT
                Where did she manage to grab so many awards? Of course, in comparison with the DPRK generals, she still has to swim and swim, but an application for a person wink

                Yeah. And that is typical, they don’t save on metal laughing
              2. +4
                11 December 2019 23: 57
                Where did she manage to grab so many awards?

                In Photoshop, it seems smile
                1. +1
                  12 December 2019 05: 31
                  Clean Photoshop ... Like the DPRK generals
                2. +4
                  12 December 2019 07: 56
                  Yes sir. Inet-craftsmen dressed)
    3. +5
      11 December 2019 17: 12
      And they run well. The NATO training did not go in vain.
      1. +3
        11 December 2019 18: 23
        We have no army and no weapons, and there will be none. And we do not have such great economic potential to quickly conquer the region.

        Yes, after 2008, all this is contraindicated to them, like cutlery to psychos.
    4. 0
      11 December 2019 17: 13
      If Georgia completely considers itself a state, then it’s already good! laughing
      1. -1
        11 December 2019 18: 39
        The state has four main features: the flag, territory, army and people, for the most part one.
        If there is not even one element, then there is no state-va.
        1. 0
          11 December 2019 18: 43
          I'm solely about the self-confidence to consider myself a state in general!
          1. +3
            11 December 2019 19: 43
            Yes Yes ...
            A crowd under the flag, ready to flee, but not to attack, but to the rear, and having on its track record only defeats and still daring to call itself a state-vom!?!
            Yes, they should kiss Russia in all shafts, that we did not deprive the Georgians of the opportunity to lose their dignity by turning around at Zugdidi and leaving home!
            And they still bark something from their gateway?
      2. +3
        11 December 2019 18: 43
        However, they do not hide their ambitions, "to quickly conquer the region." Well at least honestly confessed. And who is the aggressor after that?
        1. +5
          11 December 2019 19: 00
          Quote: orionvitt
          However, they do not hide their ambitions, "to quickly conquer the region." Well at least honestly confessed. And who is the aggressor after that?

          Uh ... You again misunderstood this Salome ...
          a region is a village with vegetable gardens around, on the territory of South Ossetia or Abkhazia.
          The concept of “region” in Russia, the USA, and China is completely different than that of such geopolitical and geographic bugs as Georgia.
          1. +1
            11 December 2019 19: 04
            Quote: den3080
            such geopolitical and geographic bugs as Georgia

            However, there is so much ambition, America is resting. Can only be compared with Ukraine. They also consider themselves to be "the greatest nation in the world" and claim that they are capable of defeating Russia in no time. laughing
    5. +16
      11 December 2019 17: 15
      President of Georgia: We have no army, no weapons

      This is a typical phrase taken out of context. In fact, the speech of Ms. Zurabishvili was that Georgia needed to improve its image in the world through scientific and cultural achievements.
      Deputies from the ruling party “Georgian Dream” explained the “mistake” of the president by the fact that, having been born in the family of Georgian emigrants in France, she does not speak Georgian well enough.
      The scandal was fanned as always by the fugitive Saakashvili, and then other opponents joined in
      1. +1
        11 December 2019 17: 39
        We have no army and no weapons, and there will be none. And we do not have such great economic potential to quickly conquer the region.
        Got it? .... I really want to hope. Personally, I have never had a negative attitude towards ordinary Georgians ... even in 2008 ... but the one that came to power did everything to turn our neighbors into a bunch of rabid enemies. I'd like to hope for common sense of ordinary citizens of Georgia.
      2. 0
        11 December 2019 18: 38
        Only the bad reputation of the army will not correct soon.
    6. +3
      11 December 2019 20: 06
      Quote: NEXUS
      But there is the biggest good choir in the world.

      =======
      And they also have "mimino" ..... True, he turned out to be ungrateful ... lousy!!! But what difference is the main thing - cargo!!!

      ".....If I could, I would destroy everything in Russia, but what can I solve alone?..... "
      1. 0
        12 December 2019 00: 37
        Here it is the true face of the cartel of the destroyer. RUSSIA BE AFRAID!
    7. +1
      11 December 2019 20: 09
      Why quarrel at all, what to share? I would love to go to Georgia to relax
      1. +2
        11 December 2019 21: 03
        Quote: Clever man
        Why quarrel at all, what to share? I would love to go to Georgia to relax

        Have a good trip.
        1. -1
          11 December 2019 22: 33
          After pension reform and price increases, they are not far from the truth
          1. 0
            12 December 2019 00: 09
            Quote: Clever man
            After pension reform and price increases, they are not far from the truth

            Is that why they are throwing themselves at Russian tourists?
            1. 0
              12 December 2019 09: 27
              According to the video, it’s incomprehensible to tourists or who. Only Russian numbers were visible.
              1. 0
                12 December 2019 11: 37
                Quote: Clever man
                According to the video, it’s incomprehensible to tourists or who. Only Russian numbers were visible.

                These are aliens from Nibiru.
                1. 0
                  12 December 2019 13: 48
                  Maybe they were selling drugs
                  1. -1
                    12 December 2019 14: 10
                    Quote: Clever man
                    Maybe they were selling drugs

                    Nobody likes competitors, yes.
  2. +6
    11 December 2019 17: 01
    which in 2008, for the first time after the Afghan war, shot down 13 or 14 Russian combat aircraft and for the first time after World War II wounded a Russian general. ”


    Oh, these numbers, and not Georgians shot down. am
    1. NKT
      +13
      11 December 2019 17: 11
      This statement was criticized by political opponents of Zurabishvili, as well as members of the government. The Minister of Defense of Georgia Irakli Garibashvili was offended by the president’s statement. According to him, Georgian army is "very strong".

      1. 0
        11 December 2019 18: 48
        71 guards MSP 42 Guards msd
        and spelling is still that
        1. NKT
          0
          11 December 2019 19: 32
          Yes you are right.
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    3. +5
      11 December 2019 17: 40
      Who, when and with what fired at Russian aviation in August 2008 known for up to a minute. Information on these events is available.
      1. +3
        11 December 2019 17: 50
        And when it all comes in handy, I'm sure the court is yet to come.
      2. 0
        11 December 2019 19: 00
        Quote: 4ekist
        Who, when and with what fired at Russian aviation in August 2008 known for up to a minute. Information on these events is available.

        Is the information from the link below correct?
        https://ria.ru/20080911/151180028.html
        1. +2
          11 December 2019 19: 11
          Yes, sort of, that's right. Another thing is that all the launches were made by generous instructors, because the natives are not capable of this.
          1. 0
            11 December 2019 19: 33
            And they sit quietly, someone grandmothers raped for it and received apartments.
            1. +2
              11 December 2019 22: 17
              There was a report on our TV right in the fall, as one of these dill instructors, holding his pants out of fear, was giving an interview to our reporter against the background of a new "khatynka". I very much regretted that this "khatynka" did not burn out.
      3. +7
        11 December 2019 23: 08
        Quote: 4ekist
        Who, when and with what fired at Russian aviation in August 2008

        Few people know that the very project of the air defense system deployed by the United States in Georgia was developed in 2004 by Russian and Kazakh specialists and this project was called the Integrated Airspace Management and Control System (ISMS). After that, the "friendly" Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan, without any restrictions and agreements, without even caring about the intellectual property of hundreds of specialists, simply transferred the project of the IMS & EMC to NATO countries (USA, France, Great Britain). As a result, this project for US money was implemented in Georgia in 2007 and the Russian aviation actually fell into its own ambush.
        But the most "surprising" thing is that immediately after that all the participants and developers of the project, both in Russia and in Kazakhstan, began a real hunt with dismissals and the institution of criminal cases.
        Thus, the US special services not only received the latest Russian-Kazakh development of a combined air defense system and tested it in the conditions of Georgia, provoking a military conflict, but also did everything to make such a system appear in Russia only 10 years later, and in Kazakhstan nothing like that in principle, never will be.
    4. 0
      12 December 2019 09: 29
      And the fact that the Georgian army ceased to exist after 5 days of the war? How are these numbers?
  3. +1
    11 December 2019 17: 01
    Why does the state of Georgia have its own weapons? The hosts will protect, send the Hulk with Superman, and the third Batman. .. lol
  4. +1
    11 December 2019 17: 06
    Yes, and the country and people are so-so ...
    1. -7
      11 December 2019 17: 14
      We are also so-so. Is not it? Although maybe I'm wrong and we are exceptional as the United States?
      1. -1
        11 December 2019 17: 46
        What do you mean by this ?, arrange.
        1. -1
          11 December 2019 17: 50
          What do you agree? That I am not exceptional? Well, yes, I'm like everyone else. The presence of a secret meaning was not provided for me.
  5. +6
    11 December 2019 17: 06
    Zurabishvili: This is our knowledge, science and education.

    So these "links of one chain" can be continued on three A4 sheets (understanding, skill, understanding, awareness, world outlook, philosophizing ...) In short, you can not beat crying
    1. +4
      11 December 2019 17: 27
      I’ll clarify a bit about medicine ... They have medicine for the people ... For example, going there for a coronary artery bypass surgery is cheaper than doing it in Armenia ... I think that the number is 7 million. tourists there also consists of patients such
      medical services ...
      1. +1
        11 December 2019 19: 50
        Okay, let it be like that.
        But then please be kind enough to explain the Georgian boundless malice to the Russian tourist.
        This is why?
        1. -3
          11 December 2019 19: 53
          I do not believe ... Kiselev says so?
        2. +2
          12 December 2019 00: 31
          This has always been the case, the Kartvelians. They always treated Russians like that, because in the days of the union, deliveries there were frantic and the salary was much higher. They lived better because they were "smarter than the Russians." And let them work hard. This has always been the case under the USSR. I know Georgia very well. And villages and cities. Therefore, I know what I am writing about.
        3. 0
          12 December 2019 11: 09
          How many times and when have you been to Georgia? It was twice after the war 08.08.08. Nowhere (border, Tbilisi, Mtskheta, villages along the highway Tbilisi-Kutaisi, Kutaisi, Lanchkhuti, Samtredia, Kobuleti, Batumi) did not meet any aggression and hostility. Even from youth, especially from the older generation, even vice versa.
          And scumbags everywhere are enough, especially with us. And those who are on video are just stupid brainwashed people who don’t even know what St. George’s tape is.
          At my border, at the entrance, the border guard asked me to remove it from the antenna: I asked, but does he know that this tape is most closely connected with the patron of Georgia? He replied that he knew and understood everything perfectly, but he had an order from above and he would fly very hard. Therefore, he ASKED to remove the tape and apologized for this step.
  6. +3
    11 December 2019 17: 07
    Mikheil Saakashvili said ..... at that time the commander-in-chief mishiko was chewing his ties and screaming 2Russians were flying "like an ostrich a point in the heavens. He was a beloved beater, a walking absurdity
  7. 0
    11 December 2019 17: 08
    As you know, God does not give horns to a vigorous cow. As soon as the Georgians get weapons, they immediately start a war with their neighbors. Make wine.
  8. +20
    11 December 2019 17: 09
    At first it was used in Georgia just:
    1. +14
      11 December 2019 17: 33
      Point 3 is the hardest to complete. laughing
      1. +2
        11 December 2019 17: 53
        It is almost impossible to fulfill, it is necessary to replace ...
  9. 0
    11 December 2019 17: 10
    What region do they want to conquer? Interesting, great Georgia ....
  10. -1
    11 December 2019 17: 11
    Oh, Georgians, would you not wake up dashingly while it is quiet ... I had a friend of Georgians in my army ... But I can remember something else ... "Sad Demon, spirit of exile ... Dashing horse, you are a master from battle carried him out like an arrow, but the evil Ossetian bullet caught up with him in the darkness! "
  11. +8
    11 December 2019 17: 13
    and that "Khvanchkara" and "Kindzmarauli" are no longer weapons of mass destruction ??
    1. +5
      11 December 2019 17: 26
      Minassalli?
      1. +4
        11 December 2019 18: 35
        this is a hypersonic weapon))
  12. +2
    11 December 2019 17: 14
    But we have other weapons. This is our knowledge, science and education.
    This Georgian Frenchwoman does not know anything about Georgia at all. What "science". What kind of "education"? How they sing! How they dance! And unless in France they know how to say toasts!
  13. +2
    11 December 2019 17: 16
    As if on the train for alms goes. We must also add: "And we ourselves are not local!"
  14. -1
    11 December 2019 17: 21
    But we have other weapons. This is our knowledge, science and education.
    In Russian, this translates as: Put out the light, put out the candles ...
  15. +1
    11 December 2019 17: 35
    13 or 14? Maybe 140? Saakashvili must send a tie with the inscription: From Russia with love!
  16. +3
    11 December 2019 17: 43
    "The President of Georgia: We have no army, no weapons ..." No brains. But there are a lot of Wishlist and show-off.
    1. 0
      11 December 2019 17: 57
      Fine! The first minus from ...)))
  17. +4
    11 December 2019 17: 46
    The general was injured because he was in battle formations, unlike the Georgian generals.
  18. +4
    11 December 2019 17: 53
    I want to bring to the attention of the president: we have real military heroes. (Georgian Defense Minister Irakli Garibashvili

    The further the Minister of Defense is from the army, the more heroes this army has ... Although the protagonist of Georgia is Saakashvili ... The only feat of the Georgians in 2008 was striking the peacefully sleeping Tskhinvali with Grads ... But when the Georgians got in the teeth, then heroically threw a bunch of equipment and fled bravely. Yes, there are heroes Georgians who performed feats as part of the Soviet army and not only during the Great Patriotic War, but they were Georgians - representatives of the Georgian SSR as part of the USSR, and not the population of the country which is now called Georgia in American ...
  19. +2
    11 December 2019 18: 01
    after the Afghan war, shot down 13 or 14 Russian combat aircraft and for the first time after World War II wounded a Russian general. ”


    ...Dreamer,
    you called me
    Dreamer,
    and you and I are not a couple
    You're not far away, you're scary, and without citizenship,
    And eat the ties without masloaaaa ....))))
  20. -1
    11 December 2019 18: 05
    The message is clear - "We do not have NATO, the USA - Give, Give, Give"
  21. +1
    11 December 2019 18: 06
    And I was lucky!
    In the service, the Georgians fell - great guys!
    Faithful friends, attentive to other people's troubles, responsive.
    Maybe I served with the wrong Georgians?
    From the wrong Georgia?
    1. 0
      12 December 2019 00: 27
      Apparently you served a very long time. Or were older in rank or in superiors. Then they creep straight ahead. And what cowards ... just fantastic. Only seven are not afraid of one.
  22. +3
    11 December 2019 18: 07
    To begin with, 6–7 planes, not 13–14, were shot down by Ukrainian air defenders who fought on Yushchenko’s order on the side of Misha’s godfather, not Georgia ... Georgia threw 200 serviceable tanks captured by the Russian Federation as trophies when they fled from the 20th army of the Russian Federation
    1. -1
      11 December 2019 18: 11
      There weren't so many tanks in all of Georgia ... then you did a little bit of that. You exaggerated, and parts of the 58th Army were there plus the Airborne Forces and Chechens of the Vostok battalion
      1. +4
        11 December 2019 18: 14
        Yes it was ... Tanks were bought in Eastern Europe, with the Yankees money, part was donated by Ukraine ... These tanks were modernized in Poland and Israel ... There was special forces of the 20th Army ... Special forces of the 20th and 58th In fact, the First Army won the war by landing in the rear of the Georgians and simply beginning to slaughter Georgian artillery calculations like rams ...
  23. 0
    11 December 2019 18: 13
    President of Georgia: We have no army, no weapons. ......

    Quite reasonable spoke out! Hope in retirement has gathered and can afford to tell almost the truth!
  24. +3
    11 December 2019 19: 36
    In 1991, I was 30 years old, and I remember well how the Georgians wanted to conquer Abkhazia, Ossetia and Adjara. Gamsakhurdia taxied. It seems to be smart people, and so clumsy acted. As a result, neither Abkhazia nor Ossetia will be returned to Georgia.
  25. 0
    11 December 2019 19: 47
    There wasn’t and wasn’t, but the Minister of Defense is a mummy.
  26. 0
    11 December 2019 20: 39
    Salome Zurabishvili:
    We have no army and no weapons, and there will be no

    Georgian Defense Minister Irakli Garibashvili:
    I want to bring to the attention of the president: we have real military heroes

    Such a picture looms on the whole: there are heroes, but no army. Something from Hollywood is like that. There is no weapon either, but real Hollywood heroes don’t even need it ...
  27. -1
    11 December 2019 20: 57
    insulting towards the Georgian army, which in 2008, for the first time after the Afghan war, shot down 13 or 14 Russian combat aircraft and wounded the Russian general for the first time after World War II

    One country is proud of Poltava, Borodino, Stalingrad, etc., etc. The other is that, while running away, her "warriors" hit somewhere with fright a couple of times.
    Or is it not the country, but Saakashvili’s balabole?
    1. -5
      11 December 2019 21: 39
      Or is it not the country, but Saakashvili’s balabole?


      Well, the fact that he is a balboal is understandable ... But this balobal is dark-minded, having only two capable brigades, using one of them rolled out the Ossetians boasting (sitting behind the back of the peacekeepers), both with their deep defense and fighting spirit - like a Tuzik heating pad.
      Fortunately, the exercises were on and the Russian army worked at lightning speed!
      1. xax
        +2
        12 December 2019 06: 53
        Quote: VyacheSeymour
        having only two competent brigades, the forces of one of them rolled out Ossetians

        Call a spade a spade. Having a superiority in theater of manpower in manpower - 6 times, in tanks - 4 times, having aircraft and other buns that the enemy did not even dream of, at night, like a thief, he attacked a peacefully sleeping city, which believed his assurances about the world, starting to shoot residential areas from art and MLRS, but he could not do anything with the city until the arrival of the Russians, from whom his "brave" troops fled in panic, abandoning their weapons and materiel, because they were not going to fight, they went to kill the defenseless.
        Heroam - sala, with adjika and spices.
        1. -3
          12 December 2019 20: 41
          Call a spade a spade.

          Well, if you ask so ... ... let's call it.
          At the time of the conflict, all Georgian armed forces -27. Cross out the civil and other rubbish that the Georgians made at least half. TOTAL there were 000 infantry brigades: - Peacekeeping (trained and equipped with small arms states) was in Iraq, Two were on dismissal, draft, one on the border with Abkhazia ... Only one remained on the border with Ossetia. And it was she who entered Tskhinvali . So the 5th superiority was not ...- Well, for no ears is not stretched.
          What Mishik had, your tongue turns to call
          AVIATION? What prevented this freak, having AVIATION, from filling up the tunnel first, while the valiant defender was sleeping in a peaceful city? By the way, I dare to recall - by the time the Georgians attacked, tension and provocations on both sides had been increasing for several months ... - but the brave defenders were sleeping peacefully at the posts ...- Well, right about the movie about Chapaevtsy - naive, fluffy sentinels, sleeping at the post, and evil, treacherous night owls cutting sleeping defenders, guarding the peaceful sleep of their citizens.
  28. -1
    11 December 2019 21: 25
    Abandoned aviation, heavy armored vehicles, normal artillery ...- But, got a panacea in the form of Javelins and a couple - three MANPADS on three-axle trucks ... And what is the president wrong about ??

    I want to bring to the attention of the president: we have real military heroes. And the statements made by the president, who is the supreme commander in chief, look completely unacceptable.


    Do the Minister of Defense and the President (commander in chief) have a bedside table between the beds or is they silent? If this is subordination in Georgian, then what kind of army can we talk about?
  29. +1
    11 December 2019 21: 40
    - Write us to NATO!
    - Member?
    - Can I use a pencil?
  30. +1
    11 December 2019 22: 21
    Remembering the service in the USSR Armed Forces --- Georgians are the most lazy and worthless soldiers. I won’t even tell you who they can be compared to.
    1. +1
      12 December 2019 00: 19
      I wanted to write the same but you got ahead. The cartels are the most lazy, they are not capable of anything other than deceiving cunning and theft. This I also learned from the experience of the service. There is no national incitement of hatred here. It’s true, although it’s harsh but what it is. And this is confirmed by anyone who went through military service with them.
  31. 0
    11 December 2019 22: 29
    What does it mean no weapons? Are daggers not weapons?
  32. +1
    11 December 2019 23: 18
    August 12, 2008 Saakashvili screamed about 21 downed Russian aircraft. Burns the earcocks.
  33. 0
    12 December 2019 00: 13
    How? Again? No weapons? And why is it for carriels? Once we went already rowed. Gathered again?
  34. 0
    12 December 2019 01: 25
    This is a terrible military secret !!!
    1. 0
      12 December 2019 02: 08
      Masochism is ordinary.
  35. +1
    12 December 2019 04: 46
    - "I want to inform the president: we have real military heroes" - the heroes were in the USSR. Now there is a shashlik shashlik !!!.
  36. 0
    12 December 2019 12: 46
    Strongly reminiscent of non-slaves
  37. 0
    13 December 2019 14: 39
    Why should Georgians fight? Let them take with their cordiality and hospitality.
  38. 0
    14 December 2019 18: 52
    According to him, the Georgian army is "very strong"

    Yes, we saw this strong army - on the drape march to Tbilisi.