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“Used forbidden mortars”: APU accuses NM LDNR of shelling

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In Kiev now, there is only talk of how Zelensky “won” at the Norman summit, how “he spoke toughly with Putin,” how “Surkov fell through,” how “Lavrov was indignant,” and how “they did not cross the red lines that Avakov was following” . It is not customary to talk about exactly what the negotiations for Kiev ended in.


Against this background, the Armed Forces command in the Donbass actually confirms the fact that the Ukrainian security forces continue to violate the ceasefire. At the same time, it is traditionally declared that the shelling is carried out exclusively by the enemy, and that the Ukrainian troops themselves, unless, “shoot” in response, and even that from purely “authorized” weapons. Apparently, previously published shots using Ukrainian anti-tank guards ATGMs should be a confirmation that the weapons are "authorized".

At the headquarters of the OOS, meanwhile, they accused the LDNR people's militia of using "prohibited mortars."

They carried out shelling near Lebedinsky, Pavlopol, Shirokino from grenade launchers of various systems, heavy machine guns, and other types of small arms weapons and prohibited mortars. Reported 11 ceasefire violations.

As it turns out, the term “forbidden” is applied to mortars of 82 mm caliber.

It was also announced that in the area of ​​the settlement of Lugansk NM LDNR used full-time weapons BMP-1. It is important to note that in the OSCE SMM reports there is no data on the presence of an LDNR infantry fighting vehicle at the contact line.

Against this background, the People’s Council of the DPR accused the Ukrainian side of constantly broadcasting lies, which Kiev is not going to refuse. From the statement, the deputy of the People’s Council of the Republic of Alexander Kurenkov:

Zelensky and his team continue to be hypocritical and pile up one lie against another. It would seem that if the president has political will, a majority in parliament, and a rather high rating among voters, what prevents stopping the shelling of the People’s Republics of Donbass and disengaging the forces along the entire line of contact? However, Zelensky does not.

In Donetsk, they noted: Zelensky actually makes it clear that he is not going to fulfill his campaign promises to stop the armed conflict in the Donbas, or is simply unable to do this because he has no real power.
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  1. cniza
    cniza 11 December 2019 09: 36
    +5
    In Donetsk, they noted: Zelensky actually makes it clear that he is not going to fulfill his campaign promises to stop the armed conflict in the Donbas, or is simply unable to do this because he has no real power.


    Well it will allow him ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 11 December 2019 10: 14
      +1
      In Kiev, now, there is only talk of how Zelensky “won” at the Norman summit, as “he spoke toughly with

      BREAK! in words ... but in fact, go and understand whether he is a sucker or not ???
      Our polites respected diplomats .....
      1. cniza
        cniza 11 December 2019 11: 59
        +2
        The British said that courtesy had won, everything would soon become clear, and I know for sure that Zelensky would not do anything without a team.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 11 December 2019 12: 16
          +1
          He's not from that ... add-on where commands come from! Lohom ,. directly, they didn’t name it and that’s okay.
          1. cniza
            cniza 11 December 2019 12: 19
            +2
            No out loud, but yes. lol
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 11 December 2019 12: 36
              +1
              Quote: cniza
              No out loud, but yes.

              Yes and aloud, the GDP has indicated so that only sign is left ....
              It is hard to imagine how THIS, in kukuevo, will be able to overcome .. turn around ???
              1. cniza
                cniza 11 December 2019 13: 03
                +2
                They do not philosophize much, they made their translation of the communique as they wanted and that’s all. lol
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 11 December 2019 14: 04
                  +1
                  Quote: cniza
                  They do not philosophize much, they made their translation of the communique as they wanted and that’s all. lol

                  Wow, those translators too!
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 11 December 2019 14: 14
                    +2
                    How they will get out, they don’t even think, but make an astonished look - they say that we understand.
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 11 December 2019 09: 37
    +1
    Yes, he has no real power. They put the pea jester as a screen, he says something there, dances, wringes his hands ... And behind the curtains his own life ...
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 11 December 2019 11: 16
      +1
      And the king is naked. Another puppet of the West, which cannot even take a step without twitching. No.
  3. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 11 December 2019 09: 40
    -1
    Something is not an article, but "in the elderberry garden ..."
    We started with a meeting in Paris, and then jumped to the Donbass ...
    Well, as for the statements ... In my opinion, even we are here in VO, 90% of which were not even in the Donbass, learned that the statements about the shelling are constant and mutual, as well as the shelling itself.
  4. Boris00
    Boris00 11 December 2019 09: 41
    +3
    Not brothers want to deceive the republics of the DPR and LPR. To close the border and "clear" the territory, the Nazis have one goal! Russia will not allow this to be done.
  5. Alien From
    Alien From 11 December 2019 09: 41
    +2
    "" "In Kiev, now there is only talk about how Zelensky" won "at the Normandy summit, how he" spoke harshly with Putin ", how Surkov" broke loose ", how" Lavrov was indignant "and how" they did not cross the red lines, after which Avakov followed. "It is not customary to talk about exactly what the negotiations for Kiev ended in." "" That's exactly what we talked about the other day, dear forum users ... until the non-brothers get teeth, so this talking shop will continue !!!!
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 11 December 2019 10: 16
      +1
      Quote: Alien From
      until the brothers firmly get in the teeth, this talking room will continue !!!!

      Conversations, negotiations ... can drag on for a long time. Only the cart will not budge in any way.
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 11 December 2019 10: 20
        +1
        It seems to me that non-brothers like that affectionate calf decided to suck from two boobs ... but just forgot that the key word in this context is "affectionate"))
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 11 December 2019 10: 43
    +2
    how Zelensky “won” at the Norman summit, how “he spoke toughly with Putin”
    What to take from sick people, and even more so patients by the head, which include Zelensky and his entourage.
    what prevents to stop shelling of the People's Republics of Donbass and to carry out a withdrawal of forces along the entire line of contact?
    This is not in the words of Surkov and Lavrov "to put in place" (was there a boy?), It is necessary to communicate with your nationalists and put them in place, but for some reason it is scary.
  7. taiga2018
    taiga2018 11 December 2019 11: 11
    0
    Everything returned to normal, four months before the next summit ...
  8. Avior
    Avior 11 December 2019 11: 43
    +1
    Residents of Donbass feel sorry
    While all these disassemblings are going on at the top level, the life of the population is actually beggarly, mines, industry, etc. are decaying, nobody wants to invest in the problem zone, they live from the old
    And the prospects are not yet visible, not the fact that someone will restore the Donbass even if the situation somehow resolves
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 11 December 2019 14: 42
      0
      only getting a passport would save
      1. Avior
        Avior 11 December 2019 15: 49
        +1
        Is that when leaving for Russia
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 11 December 2019 16: 04
          0
          Well, yes, work is mainly only in Russia
  9. Romanenko
    Romanenko 11 December 2019 13: 07
    0
    Quote: "As it turns out, the term 'forbidden' has been applied to 82mm mortars."
    There is no self-liquidator on Hammer.
    Does not comply with Ukrainian technical specifications for such weapons
  10. LeonidL
    LeonidL 12 December 2019 03: 37
    0
    “how“ they didn’t cross the red lines that Avakov was following ”- Avakov wasn’t allowed anywhere near! He confessed himself to the bald Condon. But when the room was cleared, and the booze remained, then Pan Avakov infiltrated there and kissed like that. Freebie, master of police! By the way, as far as we know, the Avakov has already gotten everyone, and his replacement, like the rest of the security officials, was also discussed. Well, Zelenkin's attitude and "overcoming" is perfectly illustrated by the attitude of everyone else towards him, the mimicry of Macron and Merkel, the remark of Merkel ... Oh, how the office of the Federal Republic distracted when Ze sang the mantra that Ukraine will never become federal! If it does not become federal, it will disintegrate and perish. Well, maybe this is better for everyone, it has become too toxic and recovery is not expected.