In the United States suspended the training of all Saudi military after firing at the air base

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In the United States suspended the training of all Saudi military after firing at the air base

In the United States, a preliminary investigation was conducted into the shooting at a military base in Florida. The information was confirmed that the fire was opened by the junior lieutenant of the Saudi air force Ahmad Mohammad Al-Shamrani, who at that time was undergoing flight training in the United States. It is known that in addition to Shamrani, several more Saudi military personnel were trained at the air base.

According to US Secretary of Defense Mark Esper, a Saudi officer opened fire with a Glock 45 pistol, which he purchased at a local rifle store weapons.



The materials of the preliminary investigation provide evidence of the military personnel of the base, where they speak of Shamrani as a person who constantly expressed dissatisfaction with US policy.

In particular, the document contains such a statement by Shamrani, recorded from the witness:

I hate the American support of Israel, the US invasion of Muslim countries, the fact that the Guantanamo prison is still operating.

It is alleged that Shamrani expressed dissatisfaction with the American instructor James Day, who served at the Pensacola air base. Shamrani called him sexually preoccupied and even filed an official complaint against him with command this spring.

Shamrani was trained at the American base under the 3 summer training program. The completion of the training course was to take place in January 2020 of the year.

Recall that Shamrani shot three people.

By decision of the U.S. Department of Defense, suspension of all cadets and interns from among Saudi citizens in the United States of America is announced. According to some reports, we are talking about 300 military personnel. The exact moment the suspension will last is still unknown.
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  1. -2
    11 December 2019 07: 19
    In the United States suspended the training of all Saudi military after firing at the air base
    Only we don’t need to shoot them. feel
    1. +1
      11 December 2019 07: 26
      Saudi officer opened fire with a Glock 45 pistol, which he purchased at a local small arms store

      And why not ban the sale of Glock pistols, or even the 45th caliber?
      The logic and measures of the American authorities are, to put it mildly, strange.
      1. 0
        11 December 2019 08: 13
        All military personnel in the United States should be completely prohibited from using weapons. On a cannon shot it is necessary to forbid them to approach everything that can explode and shoot. Then everything will be fine there. It wouldn’t hurt in Russia either, everyone remembers the story with Shamsutdinov.
      2. +1
        11 December 2019 08: 22
        [quote = Thrall] [quote] A Saudi officer opened fire with a Glock 45 pistol, which he purchased at a local small arms store [/ quote]
        The US is not the Russian Federation. There you can’t take and prohibit what is written in the constitution like this.
        1. 0
          11 December 2019 09: 15
          Why forbid? There will be an interpretation that at that time it meant only a muzzle-loading smoothbore with a silicon lock and sung rifled weapons do not fall under the second amendment smile Return to the roots, so to speak ...
          1. +2
            11 December 2019 09: 36
            Quote: dzvero
            Why forbid? There will be an interpretation that at that time it meant only a muzzle-loading smoothbore with a silicon lock and sung rifled weapons do not fall under the second amendment smile Return to the roots, so to speak ...

            It won't work in the US. There are two presidential terms maximum, this is a maximum of two presidential terms and there will be no interpretation "in a row" or "not in a row."
            1. +1
              11 December 2019 10: 27
              One would think that the change of general secretaries in the USSR changed the leading role of the CPSU Central Committee.
              So after the capture by the Irish mafia, after the assassination of Kennedy, power over the Democratic Party, does not change anything from the change of presidents.
              The USA may also be represented by an actor, a farmer, an alcoholic-embezzler, a senile grandmother, and a clown who firmly believes in what is written in the newspapers. But the invisible IMG Central Committee (Irish mafia group) sacredly honors the budget cut for its own purposes.
              1. -1
                11 December 2019 10: 34
                Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi
                One would think that the change of general secretaries in the USSR changed the leading role of the CPSU Central Committee.
                So after the capture by the Irish mafia, after the assassination of Kennedy, power over the Democratic Party, does not change anything from the change of presidents.
                The USA may also be represented by an actor, a farmer, an alcoholic-embezzler, a senile grandmother, and a clown who firmly believes in what is written in the newspapers. But the invisible IMG Central Committee (Irish mafia group) sacredly honors the budget cut for its own purposes.

                Most importantly, the life of American taxpayers does not change from the change of presidents, which cannot be said about the change of secretaries general. Dzhugashvili rotted away millions, drove people into collective farms, deported peoples (the list goes on for a long time). The next one sowed corn on everything and everyone, gave affordable housing, but did not return the passports to the collective farmers. Brezhnev put an end to "serfdom" in the countryside and was considered a stable leader without rushing from side to side. Andropov tightened the screws. Began to nightmare citizens on the streets on the subject of "why not at work." I’ll keep quiet about Gorbachev, but I’m not going to remember Yeltsin and Putin.
                There you have stability in the USA.
                1. +5
                  11 December 2019 10: 51
                  What you write just refers to "nothing has changed." Everyone "knew" how to make a country rich. Nothing has changed in the structure of the economy, namely its management. The district committee decided when and where to sow (corn, wheat, soybeans, beets - it doesn't matter), when to harvest and when to give out a car and a tractor to whom, to whom to supply new machines and to which store to send galoshes. From Lenin to Gorbachev. Gorbachev additionally decided to "make happy" his compatriots by putting all the goods in the warehouse and giving them out on coupons.
                  EBN, no longer the secretary general, for 8 years of his reign killed more people than Dzhugashvili. But Boriska made room for white people who patronized him on the shoulder. And Dzhugashvili built an independent, rebellious country for Anglo-Saxon robbery.
                  Under Stalin, 18 thousand people were shot annually. This was the maximum in the years 1935-1936. Under Yeltsin, criminals shot up to 78 thousand people (1994). Also engineers, designers, directors, traders, farmers.
                  1. -4
                    11 December 2019 11: 24
                    Quote: Oo sarcasm
                    Under Stalin, 18 thousand people were shot annually. This was the maximum in the years 1935-1936.

                    Everything's clear with you.
                    1. +1
                      11 December 2019 14: 53
                      For 5 years of Iraq’s rule, Bush ml shot 600 Iraqis annually. Throughout history, only Hitler is a competitor. The greatest executioner of the 21st century. Where is Stalin-Mao-Pol Potam compare with him ...
                      1. -3
                        11 December 2019 15: 40
                        The fundamental difference is that one - shot his citizens, and the other - strangers.
                        In general, it is very comfortable to recall Stalin in the 21st century, but none of those present here at the forum during the Stalin era would want to live.
                      2. +2
                        11 December 2019 19: 56
                        Quote: vadsonen
                        none of those here on the forum in Stalin's time would want to live

                        Apparently, you are not comfortable in Russia even now.
            2. +1
              11 December 2019 12: 37
              and there will be no interpretation of "in succession" or "not in succession".

              there is no interpretation, the Constitution of the Russian Federation expressly states:
              Art.81 p.3
              3. One and the same person may not hold the office of the President of the Russian Federation for more than two terms contract.
              I understand everything is written clearly
        2. 0
          11 December 2019 16: 13
          Quote: professor
          The US is not the Russian Federation. There you can’t take and prohibit what is written in the constitution like this

          That is yes. Hedgehog, the United States is a hotbed of democracy. By the way, do not remind when separate buses and toilets were canceled there? For whites and all others
      3. +1
        11 December 2019 08: 35
        Because the constitution works there and there are 2 amendments guaranteeing the right to weapons. Anyone who dares to cancel this right will fly out of the chair like a cork from a bottle. .45 by the way is not the very top that you can buy, the lieutenant was modest.
        1. +1
          11 December 2019 08: 38
          Quote: Spambox
          2 amendment

          There in the context of the people's militia at a specific historical moment. And now it is being “pulled” onto the present. If the 2nd amendment is in effect, then why only the official authorities have a monopoly on violence? Why do armed citizens not have the right to unite in the detachments of the people's militia and conduct lynching trials of fucking "sheriffs" who shoot unarmed African American teenagers?
          I read now the constitution of America as amended. A lot of just funny and smells of mothballs.
          1. +1
            11 December 2019 08: 51
            Against whom to unite? These unarmed African teens are not so white and fluffy. The police always act on the assumption that you are armed (precisely because there is a turnover of weapons) and it doesn’t matter if you are black and white; We don’t have any weapons, but soon they will start shooting for glasses.
            1. +2
              11 December 2019 10: 36
              Imagine in the United States, the Indians go to an unauthorized rally near the White House and start throwing something at the police.
              At least one will leave the rally alive?
              It is only a bloody gebnya who puts him under house arrest, and then punishes him in court.
              1. -1
                11 December 2019 10: 52
                The trick is that there’s no need to get a sanction for the rally, get ready in the guide parks as much as you like and the places for the gathering are not at hell on the pies. Something like this. In general, while there is no damage to other people's property, and there are no obvious riots of arson and other indecencies, the police are very loyal.
                1. +1
                  11 December 2019 10: 59
                  Do not confuse the United States and Britain. Gay parades are also agreed six months before. And God forbid put something political. It is only indoors. Vietnam protests in the early 70s will not pass now. Guantanamo is not empty. And 2,5 million US prisoners say a lot.
                  The judicial system is funny. If you were arrested and there is no bail, they cannot let you go without trial. For the court must be charged. If there is no evidence, the case will not be brought to court, and you can stay in prison for life! Therefore, deals with the investigation are popular there - it’s better to immediately recognize any moronic accusation and get a minimum term than to sit innocent for life.
        2. +1
          11 December 2019 08: 43
          But does this amendment apply to foreigners in the United States?
          1. +1
            11 December 2019 08: 46
            If you are there legally, there is a residence permit, or as in this case there are no problems with the training program. You make the driver license (rights to the car) you go to the arms, you pay for the trunk, you leave a copy of the driver license and after 2 weeks you pick up the purchase. In some states, you can immediately buy, like Snickers)
            1. 0
              11 December 2019 09: 37
              Stupid question, of course, but if a person for some reason does not want or cannot drive a car, what can be presented instead of a driver’s license?
              1. 0
                11 December 2019 09: 50
                ID card looks like rights without control rights, but in my opinion even legless dogs have rights there by default
    2. 0
      11 December 2019 16: 47
      Where are the US sanctions on Saudi Arabia?
      Or an unfinished Skripal for the State Department more important than three compatriots?
  2. +4
    11 December 2019 07: 20
    This is generally schizophrenia in the United States, to support the Wahhabi Arabs in the person of the SA and their direct enemies of the Jews in the person of Israel.
    1. +4
      11 December 2019 08: 14
      Quote: Civil
      This is generally schizophrenia in the United States, to support the Wahhabi Arabs in the person of the SA and their direct enemies of the Jews in the person of Israel.

      This is in terms of common sense schizophrenia. Exactly the same as the support of Iran and Iraq at the same time during the war between them. The same as trade with fascist Germany in the early 40s.
      And with t.z. The USA is just a business. Well at a low cost of course.
  3. +3
    11 December 2019 07: 20
    Wonderful allies are among the Amerans, but Afghanistan was to blame, yes.
    1. +2
      11 December 2019 07: 24
      "The roof has gone." Of course it's scary - to teach such.
      1. +2
        11 December 2019 11: 05
        Quote: Boris 00
        "The roof has gone." Of course it's scary - to teach such.
        No, I didn't. Not everything can be blamed on the "roof". At one time, a certain Major Nidal Hasan being a psychiatrist in the US Army in Fort Hood, Texas killed 13 and injured 30 people. Enlightenment just came. This Mohammed who Al Sharmani tweeted on the manifesto:
        - "I am against evil, and America as a whole has turned into a nation of evil. I am not against you because you are Americans, I do not hate you for your freedoms, I hate you because you support, finance and commit crimes not only against Muslims every day but also against all mankind "
  4. 0
    11 December 2019 07: 26
    Well, it’s clear that if the instructor was soliciting, he should have got his own, but why else had to shoot !? what Again, how not to love him was America, if it opened the doors for him, so that he gained experience better to kill Americans? what what what feel feel feel
  5. +2
    11 December 2019 07: 28
    I hate the American support of Israel, the US invasion of Muslim countries, the fact that the Guantanamo prison is still operating.

    In BV, presidents are killed, the military is very religious ... nothing new.
    1. +1
      11 December 2019 09: 02
      Not everything is so simple - during the shooting, one of al-Shamrani's comrades filmed what was happening on video, and two more of his fellow countrymen watched her from the car.
      1. +1
        11 December 2019 09: 08
        Quote: knn54
        Not everything is so simple - during the shooting, one of al-Shamrani's comrades filmed what was happening on video, and two more of his fellow countrymen watched her from the car.

        They do not like the Yankees, really do not like! Everything is very simple in their understanding ... but the Yankees need to think about who your friend is and who you yourself are!
        After all, nothing just happens. There is always a reason, and the consequences are not long in coming!
        1. +2
          11 December 2019 09: 22
          It looks like the Yankees wanted to "love" them, so they earned it. Greetings! hi
          1. +1
            11 December 2019 10: 09
            Quote: cniza
            It looks like the Yankees wanted to "love" them, so they earned it. Greetings! hi

            Let the Yankees figure out the reasons for themselves, we just see another episode from the "comedy" called "How the Yankees love, there are many places!"
      2. 0
        11 December 2019 09: 10
        Quote: knn54
        Not everything is so simple - during the shooting, one of al-Shamrani's comrades filmed what was happening on video, and two more of his fellow countrymen watched her from the car.

        Those. they were aware of what to prepare, but did not prevent. they did not report, but clearly sympathized and helped.
  6. +1
    11 December 2019 08: 38
    After saying "A" say "B".
    Saudi Arabians organized the largest terrorist attack in US history - the attack on the towers - the twins in New York.
    Recognize the Saudi regime as a sponsor of terrorism. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is a terrorist state.
    Weak?
    Do you want to trade weapons with the Saudis? Getting Cheap Saudi Oil?
    Receive and sign!
    A manual cobra will sooner or later bite!
    Or two times if you're finished ...
    Or three ...
  7. 0
    11 December 2019 09: 08
    In fact, the Americans suspended the training of the Saudis, because not going anywhere after what happened. What were you thinking about when you were accepted for training? Did you expect the Saudis to send the best and tested for loyalty? The culprit of the incident unlearned for almost 3 years without hiding his beliefs and ...?
  8. +1
    11 December 2019 09: 20
    Shamrani called him sexually preoccupied and even filed a formal complaint against him with command this spring.


    When was the first publication, this is exactly what was supposed. lol
  9. +2
    11 December 2019 09: 27
    This guy did the right thing, he sneaked into the rear of the enemy and heaped up perverts, although the score is not enough for the pilot, but still 3-1 in his favor
  10. +2
    11 December 2019 09: 35
    Failed three of them, so they taught not bad. So much for "junior lieutenant, young lad."
  11. +1
    11 December 2019 10: 40
    Quote: professor
    It won't work in the US. There are two presidential terms maximum, this is a maximum of two presidential terms and there will be no interpretation "in a row" or "not in a row."

    And that's true. Not like in Israel, as much as they want "in a row" they rule so much. BB was prime minister from 1996 to 1999 and from 2009 continuously. Will soon break the record of David Ben-Gurion who served for 13 years 127 days.
  12. 0
    11 December 2019 10: 51
    as I understand it, they would not send them for his position that America teaching him is evil, they could not, it would be persecution for political convictions ....
  13. 0
    11 December 2019 13: 09
    The smart learn from the mistakes of others, the United States from their own. But even so study, I hope.