In India, announced another "probable" postponement of the terms of the aircraft carrier "Vikrant" in service

Indian media have announced the start of a new phase of testing the aircraft carrier INS Vikrant under construction. An aircraft carrier with a displacement of 37,5 thousand tons launched engines.

At the same time, in India, it is noted that the timing of its transfer to the naval forces is likely to be shifted. If previously it was stated that the Wikrant will be in service with the Indian Navy in 2020, now it is said about 2022. This despite the fact that initially in the project was listed 2018 year.

Indian media:

It must be admitted that the Vikrant aircraft carrier is being built with a long delay. It is not yet known exactly when he will begin to participate in naval missions as part of the Navy. But it’s known that at the first stage of his aviation the wing will be represented by MiG-29K fighters.

It is additionally noted that now there is a discussion of the issue of using several Indian multi-role carrier-based Tejas fighter aircraft in the first phase of operation of an aircraft carrier.

From the materials of the Indian media:

Experts note that it will be possible to talk about the use of LCA Tejas on the Vikrant aircraft carrier only after the aircraft carrier is fully ready. At the same time, they are talking about an unacceptable date: Tejas carrier-based fighter aircraft can be used as a full-fledged wing no earlier than 2026 of the year, "so that compatibility is complete."

Recall that earlier "VO" reported on testing deck versions of the LCA Tejas at a training ground complex in the state of Goa.

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[Vladimir_2U]

China and India are comparable in terms of human and natural resources, but what a difference in the economy and intellectual capital! Who is broadcasting about the decline of the communist idea?

[Kurare]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

China and India are comparable in terms of human and natural resources, ...

Human resources - yes, natural ones - definitely not! What are the deposits of rare earth metals and lithium are.

[Vladimir_2U]

Lithium is certainly good, but in India there are enough reserves of various underground, moreover, world-class.
"India is one of the countries with the largest natural resource reserves. Some raw materials make it a leading country in the world market. The favorable location allows for the cultivation of almost all types of crops. The large river system allows irrigation of the land and serves as a raw material for hydropower."
So the thing is in the system.

[Kurare]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Good location makes it possible to grow almost all types of crops.

If you also rank land resources as natural resources, then yes, I agree.

[Vladimir_2U]

“Large reserves of chromium, copper, titanium and aluminum. India is practically the main exporter of mica sheets in the world market.
Of non-metallic minerals, graphite, asbestos, magnesite prevail. Gold can be found on the banks of the southern rivers. From fuel and energy resources in India, coal is emitted "there and iron with manganese in very marketable quantities. It's just that the profit is dripping more and more into private pockets.

[Vladimir16]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

China and India are comparable in terms of human and natural resources, but what a difference in the economy and intellectual capital! Who is broadcasting about the decline of the communist idea?

In China, all the technology is western. The West has built its plants. The West is a market.
What does communism have to do with it, if capitalism created the Chinese economy?

However, like Indian enterprises producing pharmaceuticals, for example. Built west and the market is west.

They are linked by a chain of Western capitalism and China. Do not break this chain. Only a fool separates capitalism from China.

Its in India - dancing, and tea. In China - hieroglyphs and rice.

[demo]

What does communism have to do with it, if capitalism created the Chinese economy?

The Chinese economy was built by the Chinese.
It was the Chinese who provided the opportunity to come to Western investment, Western technology, Western markets in the country.
And the Chinese made sure that speculative capital, which could ruin any developing economy with its actions (remember the default in Russia?) Did not go to them.
What did they do?
Very simple.
You enter money and work. But you can pick them back, at 10% of the amount, only starting from 11 years after entering.
And more.
So just do not convert the yuan into dollars. Permission required. So think about who made whom.
And another thousand different buns that the naive and greedy Western businessmen grabbed, but only after a while realized that the Chinese gave the yuan in exchange for a dollar.
China's auto industry is a prime example.
Honda, Toyota, Mazda, Mitsubishi are Japanese.
Chrysler, Cadillac, Ford - these are Americans.
Kia, Hyundai - Koreans.
BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Volkswagen, Opel - Germans.
And there are Italians, French, Spaniards.
This is a segment of passenger transport.
And there is a cargo segment.
There is a segment of engines.
There is a segment of automotive electronics.
There is a segment of automotive rubber.
And in each, the Chinese softly slept. But 10 years after the proclamation of Den Xiaoping slogan - No matter what color the cat. It is important that she catches mice - investors understand how they are stuck.

For example.
I am a personal witness.
On Thursday, every week, the employer is obliged to provide employees with members of the CPC (Chinese Communist Party) half the day for party activities.
But he pays them a salary from his pocket.
Arrive on Thursday at the elevator factory. And half of the factory is at the meeting.
And the Italian walks - the owner of the plant is sad, sad.
But nothing can be done.
Try not to give.
The plant will be closed. Everyone is confiscated. They can also determine in jail.

Is that enough?
I spent a lot of time in China. Seen enough and studied.

[saveall]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

China and India are comparable in terms of human and natural resources, but what a difference in the economy and intellectual capital! Who is broadcasting about the decline of the communist idea?

What kind of human resource comparison are you talking about? In India (as well as in China, by the way), the population is growing rapidly and is approaching 1,5 billion people, while in Russia it is less than 150 million, and so far it has been decreasing for about a hundred years. Take off finally the pink glasses ... And basically the state-forming people — the Russian — are dying.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

China and India comparable

Where did you see about Russia here ?!

[saveall]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Quote: Vladimir_2U

China and India comparable

Where did you see about Russia here ?!

Sorry, read through the line ...

[voyaka uh]

"Who is there broadcasting about the decline of the communist idea?" ////
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Those who follow the smooth, but rapid transition of China from socialism to capitalism. All of China's modern industry working for export and producing 3/4 profit is private. The state holds energy, mining and military-industrial complex.

[Vladimir_2U]

The competent use of the analogue of the NEP does not yet cancel the communist idea.

[voyaka uh]

The CCP wants to remain the ruling and leading party. This is clear. But, strictly speaking, it is no longer communist.
The Chinese have a new grandiose idea: to become the first economy in the world. And, unlike the building of communism, this idea is achievable.
Their "second silk road", neo-colonialism in Africa and South America, a large navy and military bases under construction all over the world are "building blocks" to the implementation of this idea.

[Vladimir_2U]

Could China have fledged like that without a socialist start? No. Would China attract Western resources without confronting the USSR? It seems like not, unfortunately. But, and here it was not without socialism.)) Could China become the first economy in the world without a communist idea? No! Too Chinese are rednecks and individualists (oddly enough it sounds), without a solidifying ideology, China will not condone against the Anglo-Saxons.

[voyaka uh]

If you recall, in China there were guns, burning books and beating professors with sticks in squares, steelmaking in stoves in villages.
And much more like that. Socialism there hobbled so-so ...
The jerk began with the NEP Deng-Xiaoping.
And he did not stop, accelerating all.

[Vladimir_2U]

And in the States, there was McCarthyism, but like the Hunweibs, it ended.

[voyaka uh]

It's right. But the States, as they roll 300 years along the market-capitalist path, overcoming the bumps of crises, are about to roll on. Mustache without blowing.
And China has rolled in this direction recently, but how quickly! Eyes on the forehead climb.

[Vladimir_2U]

The states thrived at first on slavery, then on South America, and then the wars in Europe started. It is not so with China.

[voyaka uh]

Slavery and cotton exports were only in the southern states. The North immediately began rampant industrial development. And the speed was - as it is now in China. In the States, tractors and cars began to stamp like pies, when in Europe they were still wonders for the rich.
In the 10s of the 20th century, for example, agricultural tractors for farmers were produced at a hundred different private firms and factories!

[Vladimir_2U]

Here, yes, "old" America is a country of engineers, whatever one may say.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Can China become the first economy without Western markets and licenses? That is the question.
It may be that the US trillion-dollar bonds held by China are not a Chinese noose, but "twelve years' tribute."

[voyaka uh]

Can not. But China is gradually getting all the licenses under the law, product safety certificates, food certificates. They agreed to pay even for patents (in the trade battle with Trump). The stakes for them are too high. They must sell, even crack.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

But nothing prevents the British "Arm" from revoking the license from the Chinese. For instance. And goodbye to the explosive growth in sales of Chinese smartphones in the global market, and along with TVs.

[voyaka uh]

It's not so easy. Good reasons are needed. Like conscious spy bookmarks on smartphones. The States and Europe could not stop the dominance of Japanese goods markets in the 70s, then South Korean. Now - Chinese.

[ltc35]

With bonds you are in vain. In the event of a big mess, the states can throw them, like twice two. Left without a large market, China will roll back at the same pace.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

I had this in mind. I’m sure that they’re not just able to, but they will certainly be thrown, which is why he called Chinese investments in American bonds a tribute.

[Honest Citizen]

What about logistics? Are seaports, railways, air connections private too? I'm not ironic, I'm really asking.

[voyaka uh]

The question was not easy. I had to sort through the ports on Google one by one. Ports are almost all state-owned. A bit municipal and private.
I did not check the rest.
Most likely - state property.

[Honest Citizen]

Thanks for the answer. I believe that shipbuilding, aircraft manufacturing, not only the military-industrial complex, but also civilian ones - there are also a lot of state things there.

[Grandfather]

Leaving aside the economic disputes, I judge as a person who had a conversation with our pilot who was in Bangalore. Hindus are unlikely to cope with the AUG, they are too timid, the caste system cannot correct this, they are afraid of everything, "the light blinked" - catapult - your life is more important than the plane - this is our difference. so no ... augne theirs ...

[voyaka uh]

There are many peoples and sects in India. Some are cool warriors like the Sikhs, others in the army are zero in any quantity.
There are peoples from which there are a stream of programmers and electronic engineers (including the IT super gurus who listen to and read their books with their mouth open).
I think they will be able to recruit sensible crews for a couple of AUGs ...

[TermNachTer]

If I agree with the people, then with the intellectual - no shit !!! It is not for nothing that the narrow-film ones have been "tying" everything for many years. Now they have a very serious advantage

[Alexander Petrov1]

Even rich India, having hired our and foreign specialists for a million dollars, cannot complete its aircraft carrier on time ...

[The leader of the Redskins]

Not everything is as smooth as the Indians wanted .... Finished, I think ...

[knn54]

In the Mahabharata and Ramayana, alas. nothing about aircraft carriers

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: knn54

In the Mahabharata and Ramayana, alas. nothing about aircraft carriers

Maybe a different interpretation of these works?

[Vladimir_2U]

Remix so to speak. )))

[Russian Bear_2]

Hindus, as always, have been doing their job for a very long time.

[Klingon]

Quote: knn54

In the Mahabharata and Ramayana, alas. nothing about aircraft carriers

Vimanas are means and Vimanonository should be on any

[Ross xnumx]

I want to announce to you one feature of China and India ... The leaders of these countries "do not hesitate" to teach their own population to work in Russia. China, like a sponge, absorbed (at one time) the military doctrine of the USSR and did not disdain Soviet weapons. Indian lads and maids every day pass by my windows to the Medical Academy ... What (mainly) do the kids of our oligarchs and officials learn? Wonderful medicine in Israel and Germany ... Why aren't groups of Russian young people sent there to study? Why is there no state program of training for blue-collar jobs abroad? Why are these eternal nudist lawyers, usurer accountants and menagers in our country ... (keep silence)?
Just because workers in Russia (engineer, constructor) are not respected, we discuss aircraft carrier projects and the need for construction ... Although most former military and competent people remember that the development of the military-industrial complex drags all other sectors of the economy. It is thanks to high-tech production that everything else appears, jobs appear ... But after all, they promised us 25 million jobs:

The task of creating 2020 million high-performance jobs in Russia by 25 is difficult but feasible, said President Vladimir Putin.

I know there are smart, competent specialists in the country (I saw, was familiar and I know), but when you look at these "dull" funny faces people from ministries and compare them with the income received, then 7,62 mm of the word and strive to break out.

[ABM]

Yes, they would study as doctors and teachers - here is real paranoia: the day after tomorrow thermonuclear !!! war is inevitable! All the disputes over the war effort that you need to build in the first place are SU 57 airplanes, Armata tanks or aircraft carriers and a large fleet. The government fuels hysteria among the people, but it understands perfectly well that it IS NOT NECESSARY TO SPEND MONEY ON THIS - NO WAR

[Pavel57]

Something little information about how the MiG-29K are operated in India.

[TermNachTer]

I am tormented by vague doubts, but it seems to the mine that they will "finish off" this aircraft carrier, just like the "Tenjas".