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For the needs of the US Air Force, Chinese products have been supplied for years under the guise of American

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In the United States, another scandal erupted over the origin of nomenclature groups of military products. We are talking about the activities of some American companies that continue to supply products from China for the Pentagon.


When the presidency in the United States was taken by Donald Trump, he said that military or dual-use products in the US Army should not have “Made in China” markings. However, the situation, as it became known, has not changed.

American contractors, riding the wave of the local version of the import substitution program, went the following way: purchasing goods in China, imported them to the USA, changing packaging and waybills, thereby trying to turn the goods into “American”. In many ways, this was successful earlier and succeeds today. After changing the labeling of goods, he fell into the US Army under the guise of a creation by American manufacturers.

Interested in the FBI. To date, the management of Aventura Technologies is suspected of such frauds. The annual profit of the company only on the change of Chinese packaging to American was about 10 million dollars. The company is registered in New York, its de jure owner is a woman who, as the FBI found out, has won state support for the Woman Entrepreneur program.

One of the company's activities: the purchase of high-definition cameras for the needs of the US Air Force. This equipment was installed as video surveillance systems in aviation hangars, repair and production shops, ammunition depots, as well as in the office buildings of the Pentagon. The resolution of CCTV cameras is such that it allows you to see the text of the document, small details of military equipment during its production and repair from a distance of tens of meters. Cameras with "American" markings turned out to be made in China and have been in operation in various versions since 2010.

Noteworthy is how the US military discovered the fact of a scam. One of the cameras began to malfunction and decided to fix it with their own hands. When they removed the lid, they saw Chinese characters on its back.

Now the FBI is checking whether materials about the activities of US military structures in Beijing have leaked through these cameras and their possible network use. The American media noted that if the cameras had a “spy stuff”, then the Chinese intelligence services could literally read the technical documentation lying on the tables of American design and repair bureaus.
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  1. Antidote
    Antidote 29 November 2019 08: 00
    +19

    How nice to kick the damned Americans. We have never been fond of such things.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 29 November 2019 08: 07
      -1
      Now the FBI is checking whether materials about the activities of US military structures in Beijing have leaked through these cameras and their possible network use. The American media say that if the cameras had "spy stuffing", then the Chinese special services could literally read technical documentation, lying on the tables of American design and repair bureaus.

      I have a suspicion that this is exactly what happened!
      Alas! Copying and misappropriation of foreign practices - this is quite in Chinese!
      1. Svetlana
        Svetlana 29 November 2019 09: 37
        +5
        Alas! Copying and misappropriation of foreign practices - this is quite in Chinese!

        Espionage, both military and industrial, is not at all a Chinese thing.
        1. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 29 November 2019 09: 43
          +9
          there should be no Made in China products in the US Army.


          Decided to do without computers? laughing

          Maybe Trump has a MAC made in the USA? wassat

          Personally for him, sawed in the garage.

          They like to tell stories how all the large productions began in the American garage. laughing

          Open Trump's eyes - you're Chinese. tongue laughing
          1. knn54
            knn54 29 November 2019 12: 39
            0
            About ten years ago, when determining the cause of the fall of an American fighter, HOUSEHOLD (not dual-use) Chinese chips were found in one of the electronic components of the control system
            Around the same time, I met with a KhPI graduate leaving for China.
            He explained to me that for the rocket and space industry, China is forced to acquire processors (and not only) from Taiwan.
            And how many scandals were there in RosKosmos with the acquisition of Chinese electronic components from one-day firms.
            1. Astra wild
              Astra wild 29 November 2019 16: 00
              +1
              Fraudsters have been and will be. It seems to me that the message is useful to read for Americanophiles, they like to say: "In Russia, only this, but in America this is not possible" 'so let them read about their beloved America
        2. Ros 56
          Ros 56 29 November 2019 09: 55
          -6
          Are you serious? Sucks at school, how many years of Chinese civilization do not know? And how many years of striped do you also know? Match for starters.
          1. orionvitt
            orionvitt 29 November 2019 15: 42
            -2
            Quote: Ros 56
            How many years of Chinese civilization are not up to date?

            Yes, three hundred years, no more. All of their "historical primary sources" have been written over the past 300 years. Ancient, no documents. And if there are, then "collections of poetry".
            1. Vol4ara
              Vol4ara 30 November 2019 10: 29
              -1
              Quote: orionvitt
              Quote: Ros 56
              How many years of Chinese civilization are not up to date?

              Yes, three hundred years, no more. All of their "historical primary sources" have been written over the past 300 years. Ancient, no documents. And if there are, then "collections of poetry".

              So read the Mongolian if the Chinese do not like. Or do you not know that the Mongols conquered part of China? Oh, sorry, I forgot that the followers of Fomenko and other supporters of the alternative history of the Mongols did not have it, they are all Russian. And the Etruscans are also Russian, all around are Russian
              1. orionvitt
                orionvitt 30 November 2019 15: 56
                -2
                Quote: Vol4ara
                So read the Mongolian if the Chinese do not like

                And here is Fomenko? Head need to think. Look at Mongolia and the Mongols. Yes, they only learned in 1926 that they were Mongols, and writing appeared in them only in the 20th century. . And will you tell me that some nomads, from some unknown steppes, conquered half the world? Ah, of course, official historiography. We know, as historians, sculpt history on the knee. Even the recent events of World War II, where everything is documented up to the minute, differ radically in the presentation of the West and Russia. And absolutely, a great option, this is the Vyatrovich Institute in Kiev. There is nowhere more widespread, but many already holyly believe. And this is for the past fifteen years. And here you are trying to talk about the events of a thousand years ago, with a smart look, claiming that all this is the pure truth. Historians, in terms of venality, are second only to reporters.
                1. Vol4ara
                  Vol4ara 30 November 2019 16: 01
                  0
                  Quote: orionvitt
                  Quote: Vol4ara
                  So read the Mongolian if the Chinese do not like

                  And here is Fomenko? Head need to think. Look at Mongolia and the Mongols. Yes, they only learned in 1926 that they were Mongols, and writing appeared in them only in the 20th century. . And will you tell me that some nomads, from some unknown steppes, conquered half the world? Ah, of course, official historiography. We know, as historians, sculpt history on the knee. Even the recent events of World War II, where everything is documented up to the minute, differ radically in the presentation of the West and Russia. And absolutely, a great option, this is the Vyatrovich Institute in Kiev. There is nowhere more widespread, but many already holyly believe. And this is for the past fifteen years. And here you are trying to talk about the events of a thousand years ago, with a smart look, claiming that all this is the pure truth. Historians, in terms of venality, are second only to reporters.

                  You didn’t have Mongols, archeology had :) a world conspiracy of historians :) even birch bark letters were forged, here are the dogs :) Attilla and Tamerlan are also some nomads from the steppes if, and yes, they captured half the world, leaving an ocean of archaeological evidence about themselves artifacts, burnt cities and the mention of many chroniclers ... or they also did not have ahaha: D
                  1. orionvitt
                    orionvitt 30 November 2019 16: 15
                    0
                    Quote: Vol4ara
                    archeology had

                    Are archaeologists not historians in your opinion? They do not know how to lie, are not financed by anyone and are engaged in excavations exclusively for their own. Yes, they themselves have long been entangled in their artifacts, classifications and "unknown cultures". They have piled up such a thing that mum don't grieve, so they are trying to artificially build at least some semblance of order. Attila and Tamerlane may have been (especially the latter without a doubt), but I am firmly convinced that everything was wrong, not there and at the wrong time. Fomenko, if anything, asks the right questions, but his "reconstruction of history" is utter nonsense, so it is not at all an authority. Just looking at how history is being brazenly rewritten before our eyes, and practically everywhere (especially in the former post-Soviet republics, about peoples that did not exist a hundred years ago, but it turns out that a thousand years ago, they ruled the world laughing ), involuntarily wondering whether it’s all true what they tell us. So nothing personal, just healthy skepticism.
                    1. Vol4ara
                      Vol4ara 30 November 2019 16: 23
                      +1
                      Quote: orionvitt
                      Quote: Vol4ara
                      archeology had

                      Are archaeologists not historians in your opinion? They do not know how to lie, are not financed by anyone and are engaged in excavations exclusively for their own. Yes, they themselves have long been entangled in their artifacts, classifications and "unknown cultures". They have piled up such a thing that mum don't grieve, so they are trying to artificially build at least some semblance of order. Attila and Tamerlane may have been (especially the latter without a doubt), but I am firmly convinced that everything was wrong, not there and at the wrong time. Fomenko, if anything, asks the right questions, but his "reconstruction of history" is utter nonsense, so it is not at all an authority. Just looking at how history is being brazenly rewritten before our eyes, and practically everywhere (especially in the former post-Soviet republics, about peoples that did not exist a hundred years ago, but it turns out that a thousand years ago, they ruled the world laughing ), involuntarily wondering whether it’s all true what they tell us. So nothing personal, just healthy skepticism.

                      The fact that these neighbors are not our official story. Examples will be where archaeologists piled something? :) if physicists are also conspiring with them, they came up with a radiocarbon method to justify these artifacts, huh: D in general, another pseudoscience, some atoms they have there that no one has ever seen, some kind of space, such nonsense of course: D
                      PS Fomenko freak and d u r a to
                      1. orionvitt
                        orionvitt 30 November 2019 16: 35
                        0
                        Everything is clear, in a bunch of "horse people". On points, the conversation will drag on for weeks. As I understand it, to explain anything to you is simply useless, since you are, one hundred percent, orthodox adherent of everything official. And we are ready to believe everything they tell you, especially if the Academy of Sciences and someone from the "caste" of academicians confirm it. By the way, physicists do not really know what an atom is, what a field is, what an electric current is, and further down the list. They just came up with models that suited them, deduced patterns, wrote it all down in mathematical form and decided that they had solved the riddles of nature. Historians ibid.
                      2. Vol4ara
                        Vol4ara 30 November 2019 16: 43
                        +1
                        Quote: orionvitt
                        Everything is clear, in a bunch of "horse people". On points, the conversation will drag on for weeks. As I understand it, to explain anything to you is simply useless, since you are, one hundred percent, orthodox adherent of everything official. And we are ready to believe everything they tell you, especially if the Academy of Sciences and someone from the "caste" of academicians confirm it. By the way, physicists do not really know what an atom is, what a field is, what an electric current is, and further down the list. They just came up with models that suited them, deduced patterns, wrote it all down in mathematical form and decided that they had solved the riddles of nature. Historians ibid.

                        I’d better believe everything that academicians of science say than an internet freak :) in fact, you can’t confirm what you’re saying
          2. Avel
            Avel 29 November 2019 17: 12
            0
            Are you seriously?

            In Russian spacecraft, three-quarters of the electronics used are imported components. This was announced in the State Duma by State Secretary, Deputy Head of Roscosmos Denis Lyskov. According to him, the use of imported components leads to a loss of competitiveness.

            After the emergency launch of the Phobos-Grunt interplanetary station, a representative of the rocket and space industry told RIA Novosti that the reason for the failure could have been the use of substandard, counterfeit parts. According to the interlocutor of the agency, in China the whole industry forges expensive parts: old equipment is bought, disassembled, the markings are washed off, data on the new specification is applied and then sold. Used parts were found shortly before in American military equipment. The agency's source did not rule out that such components could be supplied to Russia. He added that the details come to the customer through dozens of firms and "it is simply impossible to find out the original."

            Russian enterprises purchase from Southeast Asia microelectronic components with the "space" specification, which are not produced in the country. These components should ideally pass "very rigorous testing and survival tests in space," said an industry official. A counterfeit chip can work normally on Earth and at the same time not withstand work in space, disabling the space station, he said.

            However, the agency's source at one of the space industry enterprises immediately rejected this version. According to him, the system for selecting parts and components is designed in such a way that it is extremely unlikely that substandard equipment will hit. "(Component parts) are ordered, certified, certified, then there is an incoming control, involvement in the assembly and after assembly, acceptance tests are carried out, checking for compliance with requirements, specifications, conditions. The system that exists protects against the delivery of substandard parts", - said the interlocutor of the agency.
        3. Terentich
          Terentich 29 November 2019 10: 07
          +1
          Quote: Svetlana
          Espionage, both military and industrial, is not at all a Chinese thing.

          But they are in this ahead of the rest! hi
      2. UserGun
        UserGun 29 November 2019 09: 44
        -1
        Quote: Tatiana
        Alas! Copying and misappropriation of foreign practices - this is quite in Chinese!


        You might think that we have all the piles! ))) Only one "import substitution" that has set the teeth on edge (or, in other words, the redrawing of nameplates) is worth it))) Some here consider it a great blessing and with might and main promote such as another "breakthrough", and narrow-eyed "brothers" are almost on their hands )))
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 29 November 2019 11: 06
          +2
          Quote; UserGun (Alexander)
          You might think that we have all the piles! ))) Only one "import substitution" that has set the teeth on edge (or, in other words, the redrawing of nameplates) is worth it))) Some here consider it a great blessing and with might and main promote such as another "breakthrough", and narrow-eyed "brothers" are almost on their hands )))
          -------------------------------
          And who is to blame for this ?! Who destroyed Soviet industry and research institutes and sold for nothing the most profitable Soviet enterprises? Whose fault were they in the ownership of foreigners ?!
          At the Eurasian Technology 2019 Summit in St. Petersburg, Chinese high-tech development minister Jian Ming refused to give a hand to Anatoly Chubais. And he explained why. Initially, information about this did not get into the press.
          if it seems tactless, a Chinese official said that since childhood China has been taught to answer questions.
          As Ming said:
          “And I’ll say that people like Mr. Chubais emphasize - I couldn’t call him“ Comrade Chubais ”, such people we have cut down the forest in the best case. Education, official status, moral views do not allow me to give a hand to a person who would have a robe and a camp number in our country, and not wealth and power. ”
          https://news.rambler.ru/other/41718891/?utm_content=news_media&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink

          "Such people are cutting down the forest": The Chinese minister did not shake hands with Chubais. Published; 12 February 2019
        2. Tatyana
          Tatyana 29 November 2019 11: 59
          +1
          Quote: UserGun
          You might think that we have all the piles! ))) Only one "import substitution" that has set the teeth on edge (or, in other words, the redrawing of nameplates) is worth it))) Some here consider it a great blessing and with might and main promote such as another "breakthrough", and narrow-eyed "brothers" are almost on their hands )))
          And who is to blame for this ?! Who destroyed Soviet industry and research institutes and sold for nothing the most profitable Soviet enterprises? Whose fault were they in the ownership of foreigners ?!

          Revelations of Chubais on the true goal of privatization.


          At the Eurasian Technology 2019 Summit in St. Petersburg Chinese high-tech development minister Jian Ming refused to give a hand to Anatoly Chubais.
          As Ming said:
          “And I’ll say that people like Mr. Chubais emphasize - I couldn’t call him“ Comrade Chubais ”, such people we have cut down the forest at best. Education, official status, moral views do not allow me to give a hand to a person who would have a robe and a camp number in our country, and not wealth and power. ”

          "Such people are cutting down the forest": The Chinese minister did not shake hands with Chubais. Published; 12 February 2019
          1. UserGun
            UserGun 30 November 2019 14: 22
            -1
            Quote: Tatiana
            And who is to blame for this ?! Who destroyed Soviet industry and research institutes and sold for nothing the most profitable Soviet enterprises? Whose fault were they in the ownership of foreigners ?!


            And those who brought to such a state are primarily to blame for this. Who was at the head of such enterprises as you say? First of all, he was a member. CPSU... There were exceptions to the rule, but they were vanishingly rare. Just ask them. They were selling all this boom. It's funny, but those who created the Soviets themselves destroyed them, despite the "strength" and "might" of Marxism with Leninism and a fleshly role, as we were taught for 70 years))). Here is such a catch.
      3. den3080
        den3080 29 November 2019 10: 08
        0
        And it would seem, where does Alibaba and Aliexpress express? :))
    2. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 29 November 2019 08: 10
      +1
      For the needs of the US Air Force, Chinese products have been supplied for years under the guise of American
    3. Pavlov Sergey Alexandrovich
      Pavlov Sergey Alexandrovich 29 November 2019 10: 07
      +2
      In 2007-2010, the company produced liquid crystal monitors under the brand name Integral. The brand promotion for this type of product was suspended after it was found that in several batches Acer and Philips monitors were given out as Integral monitors. This case in Belarus dabbled)
    4. venik
      venik 29 November 2019 10: 49
      +5
      Quote: Antidote
      How nice to kick the damned Americans. We have never been fond of such things.

      ========
      The question is NOT: "Do they DO THIS with US or do they not do it! (Surely they do it!). The question is different, namely: what do U THEM!!! request And this despite the fact that the WHOLE WORLD is being "fooled", that THEY have the "most" HONEST "and most" TRANSPARENT "economy! And that" the American PRINCIPLES of FAIR COMPETITION "- should be the STANDARD for the rest of the World !!! laughing
  2. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 29 November 2019 08: 01
    +3
    if the cameras had "spy stuffing"
    It’s their own fault! Greed is at the forefront!
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 29 November 2019 08: 47
      +2
      Uncle Lee (Vladimir) Today, 08: 01
      +2
      if cameras had "spy stuffing"
      It’s their own fault! Greed is at the forefront!

      And in the morning they woke up! wink
  3. Zhan
    Zhan 29 November 2019 08: 04
    +2
    laughing hi
    And then China lit up .. smile
    Well, with modern technology, Sorge and Isaev go down in history .. smile
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 29 November 2019 08: 46
      +4
      If the Chinese really had the opportunity to shoot information from cameras delivered to the Americans, now they have learned a lot of interesting things for themselves. wink And this knowledge can be applied if relations between China and the USA become hot.
  4. maidan.izrailovich
    maidan.izrailovich 29 November 2019 08: 12
    0
    For the needs of the US Air Force, Chinese products have been supplied for years under the guise of American

    Is that why rockets are flying the wrong way? crying
    US tried to classify the failed launch of a deadly rocket from a British submarine

    The rocket is American.
    https://www.mk.ru/politics/2017/01/24/ssha-pytalis-zasekretit-provalnyy-zapusk-smertonosnoy-rakety-s-britanskoy-submariny.html
  5. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 29 November 2019 08: 15
    +7
    What is not done in China is fake!
  6. Ka-52
    Ka-52 29 November 2019 08: 21
    +1
    similar "scandals" flare up in the United States every year.
  7. Potato
    Potato 29 November 2019 08: 22
    -2
    Sly Chinese well done)
  8. aszzz888
    aszzz888 29 November 2019 08: 33
    -2
    Now the FBI is checking whether materials about the activities of US military structures have leaked through these cameras and their possible network use. to Beijing.
    Again the "hand of the Kremlin" .. laughing
  9. cniza
    cniza 29 November 2019 08: 46
    +5
    when purchasing goods in China, they imported them to the USA, changed the packaging and waybills, thereby trying to turn the goods into “American”.


    I wonder who and when taught the United States or did they teach everyone? lol
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 November 2019 09: 03
      +3
      Quote: cniza
      I wonder who and when taught the United States or did they teach everyone?

      Western media will present it as "Moscow's hand again." Just the other day, France and Italy were flooded, Euronews has already said the intrigues of the Kremlin.
      1. cniza
        cniza 29 November 2019 09: 04
        +4
        No, well, that’s understandable, I’m serious, who first applied the scheme for re-piling and reworking documents?
        1. den3080
          den3080 29 November 2019 10: 13
          +1
          Quote: cniza
          No, well, that’s understandable, I’m serious, who first applied the scheme for re-piling and reworking documents?

          ek you dug deep :) I think that this thing goes back to the ancient Sumerians, in the era of the early Bronze Age :))
          1. g1washntwn
            g1washntwn 29 November 2019 10: 19
            +1
            The first case of industrial espionage was recorded when one primate peeped at the other as he deftly pounded others with a stick on the head and began to do the same. smile
            1. cniza
              cniza 29 November 2019 12: 15
              +1
              In, I like this option more. good
  10. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 29 November 2019 09: 00
    0
    Now the FBI is checking whether materials about the activities of US military structures in Beijing have leaked through these cameras and their possible network use.
    Late in drinking Borjomi and waving a saber, little Chinese have infiltrated the American Air Force. It's nice to hear when a neighbor's shed is on fire.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 29 November 2019 09: 13
      +2
      Quote: cniza
      No, well, that’s understandable, I’m serious, who first applied the scheme for re-piling and reworking documents?

      Hi soldier
      I think it began a very, very long time!
      We must dive deeper into the history of ... trade between states, then an analogy, the discoverer, will surely be found!
  11. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 29 November 2019 09: 02
    0
    With cameras - it's great! A great way to look behind the collar of a "potential enemy" ...
  12. Amateur
    Amateur 29 November 2019 09: 02
    +1

    American chips, Russian chips - they are all made in China

    X / F "Armageddon", 1998.
  13. rocket757
    rocket757 29 November 2019 09: 09
    +3
    For the needs of the US Air Force, Chinese products have been supplied for years under the guise of American

    Not so surprising ... business, nothing personal!
    1. Kurare
      Kurare 29 November 2019 11: 21
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      Not so surprising ... business, nothing personal!

      hi This is not just a business, but pure corruption and fraud. The difference in price between made in China and made in USA can even be more than one order.
      This and many more cases show how dependent the United States is on the "global workshop", i.e. China.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 29 November 2019 11: 49
        +1
        Welcome soldier
        Quote: Kurare
        This is not just a business, but pure corruption and fraud. The difference in price between made in China and made in USA can even be more than one order.

        Mafia, corruption and something else, it is UNDERTAINABLE, count nowhere! This is not a compliment to those phenomena, it is a reproach to all mankind.
        Quote: Kurare
        This and many more cases show how dependent the United States is on the "global workshop", i.e. China.

        But this has long been not something unbelievable, fully proven and obvious.
        Suppose Trump is puffing now, trying to at least fix something! Only many argue that the train left a long time ago.
        In "justification", which can be said, almost the same with the majority of the rest, "developed, advanced".
        1. Kurare
          Kurare 29 November 2019 12: 27
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          Suppose Trump is puffing now, trying to at least fix something! Only many argue that the train left a long time ago.

          In principle, the same "snow on the head" after the introduction of sanctions and fell on Russia. Trump is trying to turn back the history of globalism, and for Russia it is a matter of sovereignty and even survival. While in the United States such things will be tied only to economic components, the train will move further and further away from them.

          Here we need a very tough political will and more prison sentences for this kind of fraud. The defense of the country cannot be traded, and for entrepreneurs in the United States it is just business.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 29 November 2019 12: 34
            +1
            Quote: Kurare
            Trump is trying to reverse the history of globalism,

            Quote: Kurare
            Here we need a very tough political will and more prison sentences for

            Here, numerous "political murders" are already asking themselves as a measure of influence ... the question is systemic, just little depends on different faces.
            Quote: Kurare
            While in the USA such things will be tied only to economic components, the train will go further and further away from them.

            Absolutely yeah ... I immediately remember a cool task, how to catch a truck on a children's bike?
  14. smaug78
    smaug78 29 November 2019 09: 17
    +3
    What a nightmare. Whether our business: Chinese walkie-talkies purchased. This is normal...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 November 2019 09: 47
      -3
      Quote: smaug78
      What a nightmare. Whether our business: Chinese walkie-talkies purchased. This is normal...

      The war will begin, we’ll do our own.
      1. UserGun
        UserGun 29 November 2019 10: 08
        +3
        Yeah, on the lamps! It’s true that the lamps are also sorted out, no matter how you look at the same pagan Americans and at least pagan Anglo-Saxons whistled, sorry, they replaced the simportozo in due time)))
      2. Altona
        Altona 29 November 2019 10: 13
        +10
        Quote: tihonmarine
        The war will begin, we’ll do our own.

        ----------------------
        On what and where, and by whom? Recently, the newly built plant with the technology of the ancient technology was closed, 130 nanometers (this is 20-25 years ago), now it is 10 times smaller. Specialists have nowhere to work, and there is none. I remember in 1988 when I quit 3 officers and organized a cooperative for the production of electronics-kv-radio stations and plates for satellite TV. Now who? Only the cap-and-hat remained. At 40, they retire and can’t do anything, just get a relative with a business to work and steal, I personally know three retired colonels like that ... We won’t do anything. We will only take from the remaining storerooms.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 29 November 2019 11: 33
          +1
          Quote: Altona
          We will only take from the remaining storerooms.

          Oh, what am I talking about! Black humor this quote. And then you said everything without humor, but that's right. It's a shame for the Power. They hurt, close, steal, do not think about the country, but they think about their dimensionless womb, they still can’t fill the entrails.
    2. UserGun
      UserGun 29 November 2019 09: 56
      +3
      C'mon, walkie-talkie ... Almost all electronics. Starting with the Wunderwaffle processors, as we are assured by the near, processors, and ending with resistances with capacitors.
  15. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 29 November 2019 09: 21
    +2
    This message traces the idea expressed by the famous satirist Mikhail Zadornov. And it is necessary to pay tribute to the Chinese developers (if the systems transmitted information) - for fighting not for life, but any methods are good for death ...
    In Russia, it is necessary to open arms wider to the Chinese partners, and then it may turn out that Medvedev's iPhone is Made in China
    1. UserGun
      UserGun 29 November 2019 09: 52
      +3
      Excuse me, they’re also tearing at us in this way))) Do you seriously think that stealing from the pagan Yankees they, standing at attention, do not touch anything with us ?! ))) Truly blessed are you)))
    2. Altona
      Altona 29 November 2019 10: 15
      +5
      Quote: ROSS 42
      In Russia, you need to open your arms wider before your Chinese partners

      ------------------
      How much wider? They cut down our taiga, dirtied the land. China will not share anything with us in terms of technology. It is necessary to revive and create our own design and technological schools.
  16. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 November 2019 09: 29
    +1
    about the activities of some American companies
    And if you dig deeper, you may find not a few, but a lot more companies. We must pay tribute to the Chinese - there is demand and, of course, it is not only the price. Even with the difference in price, but disgusting performance characteristics of the equipment, "some" American companies hardly decided on it.
  17. abc_alex
    abc_alex 29 November 2019 09: 30
    +1


    The resolution of CCTV cameras is such that it allows you to see the text of a document from a distance of tens of meters, small details of military equipment during its production and repair.



    In fairness, this does not require permission, but advanced optics.
  18. comradChe
    comradChe 29 November 2019 09: 40
    +1
    Is it at the SGA that the import substitution program is being implemented ???? That's it for us, 103% !!!!!. That's right, right! He himself heard the sparrow chirping, puffing and exposing the breast with a wheel.
  19. Gvardeetz77
    Gvardeetz77 29 November 2019 10: 06
    0
    One thing is not clear, is this our Main Communications Directorate from the Americans who learned such purchases, or vice versa, striped from the GUS? One thing is for certain, somewhere there is a mole who leaked his information about the possibility of purchasing goods in the Middle Kingdom
  20. Mestny
    Mestny 29 November 2019 10: 07
    -7
    I see trolls of all stripes are already choking in hysterics "but we are still worse."
    Wake up.
    1. UserGun
      UserGun 29 November 2019 10: 11
      +4
      When you see a straw in the neighbor’s eye, do not forget about the log in your own.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 29 November 2019 10: 11
        -11
        So talk about your own.
        There is nothing here to yell for everyone about everything.
        1. UserGun
          UserGun 29 November 2019 10: 17
          +6
          So I'm not screaming))) Purely for reference, for screaming crow, I calmly say that the same thing is happening in the Russian Federation, only much larger))) Because you crow a million times, that everything is bad in the states, in the Russian Federation it won’t get better)))
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 29 November 2019 10: 19
            -8
            While you are crowing here only you and your friends.
            1. UserGun
              UserGun 29 November 2019 10: 30
              +3
              Well, it means that not everyone shares your crow in a single rush))) What's so forbidden?
  21. thinker
    thinker 29 November 2019 10: 28
    0
    Quote: Antidote
    We have never been fond of such things.

    Well, yes, such stories are around and around -
    monitors were bought in one of Belarusian research institutes, and therefore the manufacturer had to be domestic ... According to information received from the representative of the "Integral" plant, the brands of foreign companies indicated on the components will continue to be glued with "Integral" stickers at the enterprise

    https://news.tut.by/otklik/156029.html
  22. yfast
    yfast 29 November 2019 12: 18
    0
    In any country, these are just scammers. In order for us to have something of our own in small schemes, we need to protect this business, since this is not a resale of underpants, and the smallest mistake in the design and manufacture draws several million dollars per sitting. And the tax and pension counters are ticking, they do not care about failures. And if suddenly the business becomes successful and profitable, friends of it may come, or shoulder straps from FBK and squeeze.
  23. Kelwin
    Kelwin 29 November 2019 12: 47
    -1
    As for the "text from tens of meters," it is somehow highly doubtful, but oh well, even so, but these pieces of iron somehow got certificates? Or like Boeing, they did it themselves, they themselves certified it ... where the regulatory authorities looked, if they exist at all, of course. Now they think whether the Chinese have removed the Old from the cameras or not. they are not even sure about the security of the network infrastructure. And it seems not in vain that they are not sure, Snowden has accumulated so much data that really anyone can rummage around there like at home ..)) The mattress is shrinking ...
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 30 November 2019 02: 40
      0
      Boeing's software was riveted on their knees under the palm trees by jovial Indian programmers hired cheaply by the crowd. I know how and with what quality this audience works. Therefore, the result confirms the old golden rule "From cheap fish - cheap and yushka" (From cheap fish - lousy ear)
  24. faterdom
    faterdom 29 November 2019 16: 18
    +2
    When they removed the lid, they saw Chinese characters on its back.

    These are generally Russian chips, and hieroglyphs are applied by Petrov and Boshirov in their free time from business trips to Shpilburg.
  25. Alf
    Alf 29 November 2019 19: 24
    +2
    In the comments, everything goes according to the standard plan - "they have it, but we have it" and no one pays attention to the "small" detail - Chinese electronics WORKS and works AS NECESSARY.
  26. LeonidL
    LeonidL 30 November 2019 02: 37
    0
    How reminiscent of the story with Russian radios of Chinese content! International julie!