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In China: J-31 2.0 fighter significantly surpasses Su-57 in stealth

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In China, a presentation film was released that is dedicated to the fifth generation fighter J-31. Recall that this is a multi-role fighter, which made its first flight back in the 2012 year, but has not yet been put into service with the PLA Air Force.


The video notes that the presentation is dedicated to the J-31 (FC-31) version of 2.0. The cabin houses four multimedia monitors, one of which is the main one - the largest in size. Side displays, as stated, are designed to display navigation information, as well as information about the operating parameters of the on-board systems. They can also demonstrate tactical cards with the designation of the main objectives.

Fighter control is carried out using the manipulator, which is a joystick grip with several buttons.

In China: J-31 2.0 fighter significantly surpasses Su-57 in stealth

The main manipulator is located to the right of the pilot's seat. There is an auxiliary manipulator - on the left side of the cab.

It is reported that when creating the pilot's seat, technologies were used that allowed the pilot to a lesser extent to feel discomfort at high overloads.

The video also talks about the weapons of the J-31-2.0. In addition to the internal compartment, in which it is possible to place, for example, four 500 kg aviation bombs, there are six external points of suspension. This already raises certain questions, since earlier in the PRC they said that the weapons of the fifth generation fighter J-31 will not be placed outside special compartments, so as not to reduce its stealth. It is additionally noted that the payload in the form of weapons for the J-31 is higher than that of the F-22 and F-35, but, unlike the F-35, the J-31 cannot carry a heavy bomb 1500-1800 in the internal compartment kg

The authors of the presentation material talk about the fact that the J-31 is a "truly multi-functional fighter." It is capable of carrying missiles of various classes, including air-to-air and air-to-surface. It can be equipped with aircraft-based anti-ship missiles.

From the material:

The J-31-2.0 version uses advanced stealth technology. Its stealth achieved high rates. It significantly exceeds the Russian Su-57 in this parameter. J-31-2.0 has made a big leap in the application of the latest technology.

It is not entirely clear by what criteria the creators of the video compared the stealth parameters J-31 and Su-57, given that there are no open data on such characteristics of the Russian fighter yet. In fact, in relation to the Su-57, initially no stake was made specifically on "stealth" indicators.


Meanwhile, in China itself, users were skeptical of the claim that in the inner compartment of the J-31-2.0 could carry 4 bombs of 500 kg:

Either these are some unknown, “thin” 500-kg air bombs, or the fighter seriously added wide.
Photos used:
sina.com.cn
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  1. Alexander Petrov1
    Alexander Petrov1 26 November 2019 07: 37 New
    +18
    You will not praise yourself, no one will praise ...
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 26 November 2019 07: 54 New
      +9
      In China: J-31 fighter version 2.0 Significantly superior to Su-57 in stealth
      Quote: Alexander Petrov1
      You will not praise yourselfno one will praise ...

      They forgot to add (boast) that the Su-57 was seen more than once in the skies over Moscow, Kubinka, Syria, but something intelligible cannot be said about the J-31 - it so "surpassed" the Su-57 that it was practically (real) nobody saw at all ...
      request
      1. Alexander Petrov1
        Alexander Petrov1 26 November 2019 08: 02 New
        +6
        As the Chinese say, that the aircraft will be exported, then China should show its capabilities, and it will be practically classified and only the notorious Chinese press extols its aircraft and constantly bouts our Su-57 ...
        1. Tzar
          Tzar 26 November 2019 08: 12 New
          0
          It’s not necessary to especially demonstrate the possibilities, because even if it is exported, it’s only to Pakistan, and to Africa in exchange for diamonds and gold.
          1. Alexander Petrov1
            Alexander Petrov1 26 November 2019 08: 16 New
            0
            No, the Chinese have already trumpeted the whole world that they will compete with the USA with the F-35 and Russia with the Su-57 ...
            1. Tzar
              Tzar 26 November 2019 11: 56 New
              0
              Leaving aside the Su-57, it’s interesting how they will compete with the United States, they will come and tell the NATO troops - “send Amers away from the F-35, hammer the bolt on CAATSA, take ours, it’s cheaper and more reliable, and it’s a great combat experience ! "? lol
              1. Alexander Petrov1
                Alexander Petrov1 26 November 2019 12: 29 New
                -1
                Well, probably they didn’t have NATO members, of course, although what the hell is not joking, we sold the S-300 and S-400 NATO ...
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 19 December 2019 13: 34 New
                  0
                  That's why the Chinese are attached to the Su-57? Are there any complexes?
                  Let them compare with American planes. bully
        2. Pathos
          Pathos 26 November 2019 15: 51 New
          +2
          But in the end, China will buy our Su-57 lol screech will be in the networks of the Middle Kingdom laughing
      2. Chit
        Chit 26 November 2019 10: 16 New
        -13
        Forgot to add something else. Direct article quote:
        "In fact, in relation to the Su-57, initially no stake was made on" stealth "indicators."
        On what basis in this case we rank the Su-57 among fifth-generation aircraft is not clear.
        We open the Russian Wiki and what do we see in the requirements for the fifth generation aircraft in the first paragraph?
        "A dramatic decrease in the visibility of the aircraft."
        The question is the same: why is the Su-57 considered in Russia a fifth-generation airplane? If it is a pure version 4 +++?
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 26 November 2019 11: 12 New
          +5
          It’s good to breed propaganda here, everything is fine with stealth, everything is just done without prejudice to other characterization. The main contribution to stealth is made by the form of the glider, with this, the su-57 is all right. The weapons in the internal compartments are removed, the airframe material is made of radar absorbing material. By horse cover
          1. Herman 4223
            Herman 4223 26 November 2019 11: 13 New
            +1
            No data coverage, I doubt that it is missing.
        2. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 27 November 2019 00: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: Chit
          On what basis in this case we rank the Su-57 among fifth generation aircraft

          And what do you see the advantage of the advertised stealths? Have the opportunity to determine
          Quote: Chit
          "A dramatic decrease in the visibility of the aircraft."
          Do you have any data? Share it. Information from murzilok type NI - not to offer.
          You know, here I just ran into your comments, as an artist to an artist - where is the Country 'stepped on the tail' for you?
          1. KrokodilGena
            KrokodilGena 22 December 2019 05: 18 New
            +2
            In fact, the criteria of the 5th generation include not only stealth and afterburning supersonic, as well as AFAR, broadband and network-centricity. This is not even considered in relation to the Su-57 ?? I don’t know how the Chinese have this, but I suppose it’s not bad, but in the Russian Federation there is not even a mention on this topic and they don’t really discuss it here. The Su57 does not have any network-centricity, and there is no broadband, it does not exist in the whole army, there is no AFAR, stealth apparently was not very important, judging by the air intakes, protruding glands, engines .., flight data remains. The fate of the Su57 is generally in question, the army is not in a hurry to order them, they are not viewers, you can’t throw noodles on their ears, they know what the Su57 can do. Until his own army buys at least 100 pieces and shows what the city of Su57 is, the project will be doomed, it will no longer interest anyone.
        3. missuris
          missuris 1 December 2019 19: 18 New
          +1
          according to Russian criteria, so far only the F-22 is the 5th generation. F-35 cannot in constant afterburning supersonic. The Chinese fly on Soviet engines. The Su-57 is still being done, but the stealth in the frontal projection, like all modern fighters, was made to him.
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    3. Civil
      Civil 26 November 2019 08: 07 New
      +6
      Especially the Chinese engine is “good”, and a set of cheap plastic is generally the ultimate dream.
      1. Alexander Petrov1
        Alexander Petrov1 26 November 2019 08: 10 New
        +9
        The Chinese engine is good, somewhere I saw it not on the Mig-29 by accident? ...
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 26 November 2019 11: 36 New
        +2
        On this Ketai yeroplan, I like keels the most: such masts will give this yeroplan 600 km for the B-52 - compare the photos of the F-35 and Su-57 - the Chinese have at least 2 times higher keels and are more upright.
      3. Chit
        Chit 26 November 2019 13: 49 New
        -10
        That's about the engines do not need, pliz.
        Otherwise, any curious person may ask a question: how are things with “Product-30” today in Russia?
        The engine of the second stage for the Su-57?
    4. svp67
      svp67 26 November 2019 11: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: Alexander Petrov1
      You will not praise yourself, no one will praise ...

      Well, what about. at least they notice smoke from the work of the engines behind their "invisibility"?
      1. Alexander Petrov1
        Alexander Petrov1 26 November 2019 12: 49 New
        0
        The smoke is exactly the same as ours on the Mig-29, because these are our engines with the Mig-29. smile
        1. svp67
          svp67 26 November 2019 16: 14 New
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Petrov1
          The smoke is exactly the same as ours on the Mig-29, because these are our engines with the Mig-29

          But we somehow do not rank the MiG-29 as "invisible"
          1. Alexander Petrov1
            Alexander Petrov1 26 November 2019 16: 18 New
            +1
            That's for sure... laughing
  2. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 26 November 2019 07: 37 New
    0
    Version J-31-2.0 uses advanced stealth technology. Its stealth achieved high rates. It definitely surpasses the Russian Su-57 in this parameter.

    Especially having
    six external suspension points.
    Yeah, in the sense - yeah.
    Whatever the child would entertain ...
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 26 November 2019 07: 57 New
      +1
      Version J-31-2.0 uses advanced stealth technology. Its stealth achieved high rates. It significantly exceeds the Russian Su-57 in this parameter.

      That is why we will never "live" him and see him!
    2. Yngvar
      Yngvar 26 November 2019 10: 53 New
      0
      You look at the photo! See the six suspension points? No? And the Chinese say there! This is the "advanced stealth"!
  3. Victor_B
    Victor_B 26 November 2019 07: 39 New
    +2
    Hell knows?
    Maybe a really good prodigy.
    Here from my sofa is somehow inaudible.
    The choice of the best instance is complicated by the simple lack of REAL data.
    From the word - in general!
    But our SU-57 is prettier.
  4. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 26 November 2019 07: 39 New
    +3
    Oh, how beautiful everything is! China really makes a breakthrough in technology! Especially in computer graphics technology ....
  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 26 November 2019 07: 39 New
    +1
    Well, well, you won’t praise yourself. .. On stolen ideas and technologies, I look, they want to fly straight to paradise? A strong government would PROHIBIT the sale of even old defense technologies to these hitans, they wouldn’t even be given a word to open about new ones! Xerox country suddenly imagines itself a super power! !!
    1. Steen
      Steen 26 November 2019 09: 29 New
      +2
      Why imagined? This country, by hook or by crook, has practically developed to a superpower. And someone just thinks about himself so far.
    2. DRM
      DRM 26 November 2019 09: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: Thrifty
      Well, well, you won’t praise yourself. .. On stolen ideas and technologies, I look, they want to fly straight to paradise? A strong government would PROHIBIT the sale of even old defense technologies to these hitans, they wouldn’t even be given a word to open about new ones! Xerox country suddenly imagines itself a super power! !!

      And let's remember how the industry of the USSR began .. From the same. With copying other people's developments. Later they began to do their own thing. Although they were always not against something to pioneer))
  6. Tzar
    Tzar 26 November 2019 07: 41 New
    +1
    Still decided to copy the F-35 to the fullest, well done.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 26 November 2019 07: 44 New
    +4
    The sandpiper is a swamp! We are not surprised at anything.
    1. cniza
      cniza 26 November 2019 08: 56 New
      +4
      It would be strange if they criticized ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 26 November 2019 09: 51 New
        0
        Quote: cniza
        It would be strange if they criticized ...

        Well, yes, I don’t want to criticize, and it’s harmful for my income and career! And don’t care that when the time of CHECKS happens, they will, will, remember those who were not allowed to criticize ... but wake up to remember in a quiet, between themselves.
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 26 November 2019 07: 50 New
    0
    Draw a paper tiger again? Well, such advanced, such ... Already breathtaking. Obviously, this information is for internal use. Do not forget that China is pretty much "cut off" from the Internet, and they vaguely see the real "picture of the world." My assistant returned from Shanghai. At the exhibition was. As a rule, nobody speaks English there! Therefore - it is clear. You believe in your media, and anything "rolls" any information.
    And if you start digging and discussing “digging” in networks, you can catch serious troubles ...
    1. Steen
      Steen 26 November 2019 09: 35 New
      -4
      Your friend is either lying, or he is a figment of your imagination. In 2001, the Ministry of Education of China approved a plan according to which English education should begin from the third year of schooling, and in some cases even from the first, and continue the entire period of study, both at school and in higher educational institutions. Many parents in large cities tend to send their children to kindergartens, where children from an early age are taught English. As a result, many Chinese people to one degree or another speak, or at least understand, English. In Shanghai, this percentage is more than 50% of the young population.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 26 November 2019 09: 44 New
        +3
        Quote: Steen
        In Shanghai, this percentage is more than 50% of the young population.

        You were there? No one speaks English to maintain a more or less coherent conversation. Or carefully hide it. The electronic translator helps out on the phone or separately. And the accusation of lying on the basis of knowledge from "non-living media", contrary to the testimony of the EVIDENT, is, excuse me, stupid.
        By the way, this is not the first time I've heard that the Chinese speak English poorly. And now I am convinced of this. Communication with Chinese experts has begun, it is IMPOSSIBLE to understand their English! They call me, I need to communicate, but until the translator is invited, alas. A translator is a philologist ... On technical issues - just a disaster laughing
        1. Steen
          Steen 26 November 2019 12: 01 New
          -1
          Unworthy media?
          Tikhonova E.V., Korneva E. D. Distribution of English in China // Young Scientist. - 2015. - No. 19. - S. 702-705.
          Tikhonova Evgenia Vladimirovna,
          National Research Tomsk State University, Ph.D., Associate Professor
        2. Leon68
          Leon68 26 November 2019 17: 08 New
          +1
          I confirm. He himself was in Shanghai, and could not get help from either pedestrians or taxi drivers to bring me to the hotel. They don’t even understand the letters of Aglitsky. The current is its hieroglyphs - although training begins in primary school with scribble in Latin. A talk card showing the name of the hotel in Chinese has helped.
  9. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 26 November 2019 07: 55 New
    0
    Judging by the quantitative laudatory mention of the Chinese invisibility on the "pages" of the Military Review, this aircraft is "VERY EVEN NOTABLE" wassat Our Chinese comrades shove the world their goods, not their equipment ....
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 26 November 2019 11: 53 New
      +2
      You see, if their pictures helped them sell their goods, that would be one thing, and today's Chinese pictures only say that the Chinese WISH to get into the Club as an arms dealer, but ...
      They produce "Kalash" more than Russia, only the Russian "Kalash" is 5 times more expensive, because the Chinese at the 3-4th store is already starting to spit ...
      What do you say to that?
      1. Vitaly Tsymbal
        Vitaly Tsymbal 26 November 2019 12: 49 New
        +1
        I completely agree - we wrote in different words about the same thing !!!
  10. Evil 55
    Evil 55 26 November 2019 08: 03 New
    +2
    Stealth technologies based on rice paper and bamboo sticks have left all the leading aviation powers in the world far behind.
  11. askort154
    askort154 26 November 2019 08: 35 New
    0
    The J-31 fighter version 2.0 significantly surpasses the Su-57 in stealth

    Quote from the report of the military-industrial complex of China, before the party and the government. yes
  12. Langf
    Langf 26 November 2019 08: 40 New
    0
    I believe: when the 57s fly over fatty flocks in Beijing, of course there is nothing to compare. fellow
  13. EvilLion
    EvilLion 26 November 2019 08: 42 New
    +2
    I don’t see any problems with carrying 4 bombs of 500 each, the compartment can have a complex internal shape, for example, the bombs are crammed into some cells, or maybe they just hang in a square. In any case, this means that the machine is designed for a very limited set of TSA strictly defined. sizes. It simply cannot be otherwise, given that even the F-35 has an overwhelming superiority as a power plant, which is more powerful and has only one engine, which means it has more internal volumes.

    F-35 carries 2 bombs of up to 951 kg, it is unrealistic to stick a bomb of the size KAB-1500 into a bomb bay even for a Su-57 whose compartment is divided into 2, otherwise it will likely break. In general, I have not heard anything about what will be carried as the most powerful weapons of the Su-57. KAB-500, of course, will fit into it, but we do not seem to have bombs weighing about a ton. Here KAB-250, these yes, have appeared.

    J-20, judging by the pictures, inside carries only air-to-air missiles (poor F-22). Perhaps the Chinese are trying in J-31 to make a light stealth bomber (poor F-35).
    1. alstr
      alstr 26 November 2019 10: 16 New
      +2
      I actually have a stupid question: WHY DOES THE BILLER FOR THE BATTERY? Yes, and large calibers?

      I’m not catching up with something, I guess.
      1. Good_Anonymous
        Good_Anonymous 26 November 2019 10: 48 New
        -3
        Quote: alstr
        I actually have a stupid question: WHY DOES THE BILLER FOR THE BATTERY?


        In order not to pay for individual bombers.
      2. EvilLion
        EvilLion 26 November 2019 12: 54 New
        0
        Then, that clean fighters give way to universal machines. The US Air Force F-16 almost went over to bombers.
        1. alstr
          alstr 26 November 2019 15: 21 New
          0
          All this is wonderful, but why are they LOW-SEAMING, if at a distance and a height of the BOM drop they glow beautifully?
          And if they take a full bomb load into the internal compartments, then how will they bring down opposing fighters and air defense systems?
          1. EvilLion
            EvilLion 27 November 2019 00: 43 New
            0
            In ext. compartments have suspension points and load types are always discrete. There is a point for a bomb of 500 kg, a bomb is hung on it, on the remaining lighter explosives. F-35 carries 2 bombs and 2 or even 4 missiles.

            I don’t know at what altitude you were going to drop bombs, but even an inconspicuous aircraft can go unnoticed on the target, the Earth is round and uneven, there is where to hide. This is called tactics. And in any case, the stealth lowers the capture distance of missile warheads, they are just very small.
            1. alstr
              alstr 27 November 2019 09: 56 New
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              To drop a bomb, you need a height of at least 200 meters (otherwise you can get under the fragments).
              To drop planning bombs - 10-14 km (and at this altitude. Many shelters because of the terrain).
              The range of dropping free-falling bombs to several kilometers from the target. Planning about 100.

              At such distances and altitudes, any aircraft are detected.
              1. EvilLion
                EvilLion 27 November 2019 10: 49 New
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                Nothing that a bomb can have a slowdown fuse? Well, there is such a tactic as bombing with cabriolet. When the plane jumps out a few seconds before the reset of the Borjomi TSA, it’s too late to drink or aim the air defense system at it.

                And this is without taking into account the EW means and the direct destruction of the radar by missiles pointing at the radiation source.
            2. missuris
              missuris 1 December 2019 19: 25 New
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              all these flyers with tactics are well illuminated by a dlr system based on a mid-altitude airship UAV.
      3. NEXUS
        NEXUS 26 November 2019 21: 15 New
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        Quote: alstr
        I actually have a stupid question: WHY DOES THE BILLER FOR THE BATTERY? Yes, and large calibers?

        Bombs are cheaper than missiles, there are many of them, and at the same time, there are planning bombs with a radius that is not much inferior to missiles.
    2. Good_Anonymous
      Good_Anonymous 26 November 2019 10: 48 New
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      Quote: EvilLion

      J-20, judging by the pictures, inside carries only air-to-air missiles (poor F-22).


      Why bad? The Chinese will finish the engines sooner or later, otherwise there is very little information about the J-20.
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 26 November 2019 12: 59 New
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        Even we are still threatening to make engines of the F-22 and F-35 level, although the Su-57, if it is really easier than the F-22, should even maintain traction parity in battle, even with the AL-41F1, because there afterburner will not fly. The Chinese is aerodynamically from the 1980s, and it is unlikely that he can seriously redo the internal. layout, this is tantamount to creating a new machine. So it will be so, 4 missiles in the belly, maybe 2 more on the sides, despite the fact that it looks like a pancake.
        1. Good_Anonymous
          Good_Anonymous 26 November 2019 21: 35 New
          -1
          Quote: EvilLion
          Chinese is aerodynamically from the 1980s


          Clear. By the way, the F-22 is also from the 80s.
          1. EvilLion
            EvilLion 27 November 2019 00: 44 New
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            Only the F-22 in the 80s was the plane of the future for the leading aviation power, which probably created already thousands of different planes, and the Chinese in the 2010s are rolling out what was mainstream in Europe in the 80s.
            1. Good_Anonymous
              Good_Anonymous 27 November 2019 11: 18 New
              -1
              Quote: EvilLion
              and the Chinese in the 2010s are rolling out what was mainstream in Europe in the 80s


              Please tell us about the EPR J-20. And his avionics.
              1. EvilLion
                EvilLion 27 November 2019 13: 02 New
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                I do not know how to determine the EPR by eye, but the PGO, like any other, the protrusion only increases it. Military electronics is far from manufacturing licensed smartphones, and the Chinese have little experience
                1. Good_Anonymous
                  Good_Anonymous 27 November 2019 13: 36 New
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                  Quote: EvilLion
                  I can’t determine ESR by eye


                  Yes, it’s harder to define the “mainstream Europe of the 80s.”

                  Quote: EvilLion
                  Military electronics far from production licensed smartphones


                  If you think that J-20 avionics is made on smartphones ... okay, you have the right to your own opinion. But I can assure you that the components of "military electronics" are very close to civilian ones. Read about using COTS in the F-35.
  14. IL-18
    IL-18 26 November 2019 08: 46 New
    +4
    Here I am annoyed by the concepts of "stealth", "stealth", etc. in the context of the article?
    Dear editors of VO! Please tell Chinese comrades that the best stealth is Po-2 with M-11, the cylinder block of which is made of ceramic. Well, or articles about Chinese planes publish such as the magazine "Foreign Military Review" in the 1980s. And this article would not have been placed in Murzilka in those years. Well, the truth is, five years ago, no matter what the article, it’s a holiday for a normal guy, and now ...
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 26 November 2019 21: 16 New
      0
      Quote: IL-18
      Here I am annoyed by the concepts of "stealth", "stealth", etc. in the context of the article?

      Stealth technology is not an invisibility cap, but some LOW-MOVEMENT for enemy radars and then, not in all frequency ranges.
  15. Vlp8
    Vlp8 26 November 2019 08: 50 New
    +1
    ... waiting for v3.0
  16. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 26 November 2019 08: 55 New
    0
    Thin bombs on all stealth cars in the arsenal.
  17. Pavel57
    Pavel57 26 November 2019 08: 56 New
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    Turks can offer it.
  18. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 26 November 2019 09: 23 New
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    It is not entirely clear by what criteria the creators of the video compared the stealth parameters of the J-31 and Su-57, given that there are no open data on such characteristics of the Russian fighter yet.

    For the same as for the local "experts": the nozzles are round and not covered.
  19. Prahlad
    Prahlad 26 November 2019 09: 38 New
    -4
    Well, if you take stealth indicators, then yes it is better than the su-57
  20. bars1
    bars1 26 November 2019 09: 45 New
    0
    Quote: EvilLion
    sticking a KAB-1500 size bomb into the bomb bay is unrealistic even for the Su-57 in which the compartment is divided into 2,

    The Su-57 carries in its internal compartments at least one X-59MK2 cruise missile ...
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 26 November 2019 13: 09 New
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      Wiki indicates the mass of this modification is 770 kg, and it is specially shrunk. The compartments of the Su-57 look the same in size, if you hang one above the other, then I think you can cram up to 4 pieces (40 cm diameter, let them be 15-20 cm between them, the distance to the compartment roof and wings is another 20-30, total 120-130 cm required compartment depth, which, it seems, does not look impossible), plus a pair of missiles on either side of it. In total, the maximum set of TSA can be 4 X-59MK2 and up to 6 explosives in the main and side compartments.
  21. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 26 November 2019 09: 47 New
    +2
    the matter is left to small .. to install his engine on it.
  22. Private-K
    Private-K 26 November 2019 09: 55 New
    +3
    The very bet on the "invisibility" of the fighter, the absolutization of this principle, is the wrong way. For in the framework of this absolutization, it inevitably leads to the deterioration of other basic, critical, combat characteristics.
  23. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 26 November 2019 10: 06 New
    +1
    As for stealth, this is most likely the case. This is due more to the fact that the aircraft itself is smaller than the su-57 and the blades are completely covered. But what about the rest of the indicators? Are the engines from Mig-29 there they are cooler? This is a plane of the same class as the Mig-35, or the Chinese J10, but China is in no hurry to change the J10 for this car.
  24. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 26 November 2019 10: 18 New
    +1
    Ordinary PR, especially nothing to comment on.
  25. JonnyT
    JonnyT 26 November 2019 10: 28 New
    0
    Marketing techniques in action, here and the Su-57, and a penguin with a raptor. It is a pity there is no Chinese wall, dragons to securely fix the j-31 in the heads of the layman
  26. Good_Anonymous
    Good_Anonymous 26 November 2019 10: 40 New
    -1
    The main manipulator is located to the right of the pilot's seat. There is an auxiliary manipulator - on the left side of the cab.


    This is HOTAS. "Second Manipulator" - never ancillary smile
  27. NBV
    NBV 26 November 2019 11: 14 New
    0
    On one plane, the bombs were on the suspension, and on the other, "initially no stake was made on" stealth "indicators." And there is debate about who is closer to the fifth generation aircraft and where it is better to spend in Africa or Pakistan ?! Madhouse!
  28. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 26 November 2019 11: 39 New
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    Version J-31-2.0 uses advanced stealth technology. Its stealth achieved high rates. It significantly exceeds the Russian Su-57 in this parameter.
    Papier mache? Not otherwise. Full radio transparency
  29. ZVS
    ZVS 26 November 2019 11: 55 New
    0
    Another Chinese blah blah.
  30. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 26 November 2019 12: 04 New
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    J-31 and F-35 are similar.
    The difference between the J-31 and the F-35 is that the Chinese have two engines. Therefore, the bombing missile compartment is one - between the engines. The plane is short, so the compartment was half narrow.
    The F-35 has two compartments. They (each) are more authentic than Chinese. But also narrow.
  31. Evpator
    Evpator 26 November 2019 12: 07 New
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    Nonsense, as always stolen. Very similar to f-35 and Yak, forgot the modification, roofing felts 138 or 148.
  32. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 26 November 2019 12: 07 New
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    Our Chinese brothers forgot to indicate that the engine on their J-31 from the Su-35.
  33. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 26 November 2019 12: 13 New
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    Only in the sky alone can one speak of any superiority. And before that, this is bragging and empty words.
  34. iouris
    iouris 26 November 2019 12: 25 New
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    Well, well done. Is this the end of the story?
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  36. sir_obs
    sir_obs 26 November 2019 18: 44 New
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    Everything is classic. See the J-31? but he is.
  37. Dima_Anlim
    Dima_Anlim 26 November 2019 22: 24 New
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    If the Russian media at the very beginning had not trumpeted the whole world that the Su-57 is a “super stealth invisibility”, then no one would have questioned its stealth characteristics.
  38. vmo
    vmo 27 November 2019 15: 19 New
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    Surpassed in words, no one saw him in the sky, tore off, unfinished and one boast. This is all of China and their products.
    1. Tuareg72
      Tuareg72 4 February 2020 10: 06 New
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      Million percent! And there is!
  39. tralmaster
    tralmaster 22 December 2019 08: 47 New
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    And something familiar in the guise of J from fu 35.
    1. Tuareg72
      Tuareg72 4 February 2020 10: 05 New
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      so yellow-skinned understood that it is possible to steal from amerastov
  40. lazy
    lazy 22 January 2020 09: 54 New
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    and the engines on it are Russian? if so, how many of them will depend on the goodwill of Russia
    1. Tuareg72
      Tuareg72 4 February 2020 10: 04 New
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      Well, it’s not in vain that they are buying up the 31st engine in hundreds. In my opinion, only the last deal went through 140 motors.
  41. peter rusin_2
    peter rusin_2 28 January 2020 15: 15 New
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    And you Chinese, no matter how you sit down, but you’re not good at musicians)))) - your pentatonic fails you!
  42. Tuareg72
    Tuareg72 4 February 2020 09: 57 New
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    He laughed heartily! And his motor is not a copy of the prehistoric Cuckoo?
  43. Tuareg72
    Tuareg72 4 February 2020 10: 19 New
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    I read the article.
    I recalled a joke.
    They made a new aircraft, according to the project of students of one specialized university. Gathered a presentation followed by a flight, invited officials "sympathizing with officials", and of various specialists
    Potryndeli from the scene, loaded onto the plane and he steered to take off.
    One of the organizers comes in and says:
    - Now you will appreciate the brainchild designed by young specialists, graduate students of the university ...
    The people tensed! He continues:
    - ... and professional pilots will perform some aerobatics!
    There was a cry, noise, din! They began to break doors, jump onto the runway and run as fast as hell from incense!
    Remained to sit one handsome man aged. As he drank his cognac serenely, he drinks.
    The organizer, freaking out from the reaction of the others, asks him:
    “What are you left with?”
    - Why panic ??? I am the rector of that university and I know my students. What are the "figures" ???? THIS gouno won't even take off!
  44. tralmaster.
    tralmaster. 20 February 2020 10: 29 New
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    How a plane can be the best if they don’t have their own engine to it. And no one will sell them a super modern engine.