Serial production of Snipex T-Rex heavy duty rifle launched in Ukraine

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In Ukraine, announced the start of mass production of the Snipex T-Rex rifle. It's sniper weapondeveloped at the Kharkov defense enterprise XADO.

Large-caliber rifle created under the cartridge 14,5x114 mm. Snipex T-Rex - a weapon of impressive dimensions. The weight of this sniper weapon is 22,5 kg. Assembled length - 1830 mm with a barrel length of 1200 mm. The effective range of the manufacturer is estimated at 3 km. Muzzle velocity - 1000 m / s. The maximum range of a bullet is 7 km.



Snipex T-Rex has a bullpup layout with a rollback option.

For the first time, this 14,5 mm caliber rifle was presented at the Ukrainian arms exhibition in the 2017 year.


The rifle has Picatinny rails. During charging, the cartridge of the mentioned caliber is inserted into the receiver window with the shutter open. The manufacturer calls the rifle a heavy duty sniper weapon.


Earlier, the same Ukrainian company also demonstrated a variant of the Snipex 12,7 mm sniper rifle. Now - 14,5-mm version of "Tirex". How many such rifles are planned to be released are not reported in Ukraine. Nor do they report which units of the Snipex T-Rex rifle will enter.

It must be recalled that at one time in Ukraine they tried to create a tank with the same name. However, the Tirex tank remained on paper.
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  1. -1
    24 November 2019 18: 42
    Well, the T-Rex doesn’t go well with the tank, even if they make a rifle. laughing
    1. +12
      24 November 2019 18: 51
      And what is your joy? The fact that of them will kill people in the Donbass?
      1. +13
        24 November 2019 18: 57
        In fact, it is considered a very bad omen to call a ship by the name of a sunken ship.
        Call the rifle project the name of a failed tank project ...
        It seems to me that someone from the project management wants to kill the project. May God grant him health!
        what
        1. +5
          24 November 2019 19: 00
          God grant, if so.
        2. +5
          24 November 2019 22: 35
          Quote: Shurik70
          Call the rifle project the name of a failed tank project ...

          It’s just that Ukrainian arms manufacturers believe for some reason that the worse you call a product, the cooler it will be in practice, apparently it’s taken over from mattresses.
          And we have the opposite ... Cornflower, Tulip, Pinocchio ....
        3. -9
          24 November 2019 23: 23
          The name is different. Tirex and T-REX seem to be spelled differently. That the author so wants. It is necessary to bite, about Ukraine, after all.
          1. +4
            24 November 2019 23: 43
            Quote: Nashorn
            The name is different. Tirex and T-REX seem to be spelled differently. That the author so wants. It is necessary to bite, about Ukraine, after all.

            The same.
            In Russian transcription "Tirex", in English "T-REX" (short for Tyrannosaurus rex). Here is a Ukrainian site dedicated to him
            http://texty.org.ua/pg/news/textynewseditor/read/67098/Ukrajinskyj_tank_trex_Azov_rozrobyv_khyzhaka_na
      2. -16
        24 November 2019 19: 29
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        And what is your joy? The fact that of them will kill people in the Donbass?

        Wow, what kind of compassionate and caring do you have here .. And what did you do to end the war? Just throw beautiful show-offs ... that is, phrases?
        1. +21
          24 November 2019 19: 32
          I'll throw a counter question - did you do something? Who are you and where are you from? Answer me?

          Personally, I am from Lugansk.
          1. +1
            24 November 2019 21: 01
            Well, they will do something of course, and they will purchase weapons, not without it. I hope we are building up stocks of calibers and iskander.
          2. -1
            24 November 2019 21: 57
            You know that duroshlep there are such. Never mind. Little Russia is being watched by millions of people. Very carefully. Not with
            T-reks, or without, they won't give you offense. "Loss of statehood" is not an empty phrase. Do not pay attention to such.
          3. -8
            25 November 2019 06: 10
            Quote: Lord of the Sith
            Personally, I am from Lugansk.

            And now what? .. what's next? .. or is that enough?
      3. -1
        24 November 2019 20: 26
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        And what is your joy? The fact that of them will kill people in the Donbass?


        What kind of gon? Half, if not more, you will have.
        1. +6
          24 November 2019 20: 28
          Half what? Toilets from those unfortunate Ukrainian boats?))
          1. 0
            24 November 2019 21: 25
            Quote: Lord of the Sith
            Half what? Toilets from those unfortunate Ukrainian boats?))


            For the savvy. Kharkov. Defense. Company. The key word is Kharkov.
            1. +6
              24 November 2019 21: 34
              If you have something to say, then say right away, we’re not playing puzzles, but we’ll solve crosswords
      4. +3
        24 November 2019 23: 09
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        And what is your joy? The fact that of them will kill people in the Donbass?

        Even if they bring it to mind and there will be funding (of which I personally doubt very much), the entire issue will end in a pilot series of just 2-3, well, maybe export by piece, which is also very unlikely.
        In Russia, there are about a dozen models of such rifles and about 6-8 models are in the army. They did not get much distribution, either in Chechnya at one time as an anti sniper, or in general. They are used as a rule piece by piece in special operations. In Syria, as I saw flashed. The last high-profile application in Ukraine was crumbled from such Ukrainian complexes with S-300 antennas and special communication antennas.
        1. -16
          24 November 2019 23: 26
          Already finished. And there will be funding, no doubt. About other weapons, here on the forum they said exactly the same.
          1. 0
            25 November 2019 12: 30
            Quote: Nashorn
            Already finished. And there will be funding, no doubt. About other weapons, here on the forum they said exactly the same.

            And what, at least one weapon sample is adopted and delivered under the contract to the troops ???
            1. 0
              25 November 2019 13: 43
              Yes, as if no one closed the Ukrainian sector of Nat. YouTube too. I monitor your weapons regularly, what is stopping you from following ours ???
              1. +1
                25 November 2019 18: 22
                Quote: Nashorn
                I monitor your weapons regularly, what is stopping you from following ours ???

                So I follow and asked a question because I don’t know the answer!
                Ok. Let's start with the hard one.
                1. Oplot. Besides the fact that this is not its own development, but modernization, and units have been released, now the program is closed, production has been discontinued.
                2.BTR-4. The same thing, modernization, production less than a couple of dozen, production discontinued.
                3. Watch. Also, the release is less than a couple of dozen, its own assembly only, almost all the parts are imported, from metal to armor, ending with the engine and transmission. The same goes for Spartan, Warta, Bogdan and, Kozak.
                I won’t even talk about various alterations of Gradov, there are only new names there.
                4. The hammer. Besides the fact that this is a copy of the Soviet mortar of the 50s, they even couldn’t reproduce the technology normally, how many have died there from the marriage? For 50 people like ?.
                5. ATGM? Which are the same only copies or Soviet developments.
                Well, what else is there? Howitzer advertised? Purchased in Poland British pensioner - a new Ukrainian development? Not even funny.
                6. Malyuk. Kalash in a stupid body kit - the same is not funny.
                So I ask - What ??
            2. 0
              25 November 2019 14: 35
              Quote: Ramzaj99
              at least one sample of weapons adopted and supplied under contract to the troops ???

              Well, the hammer mortar. We are very fond of in the Ukrainian troops. Especially when it explodes. And a dozen tanks, it seemed.
        2. 0
          25 November 2019 14: 33
          Quote: Ramzaj99
          release will end with a pilot series

          In Ukraine, they start a lot, but rarely finish. Let's hope that we get another version of the "hammer" mortar. lol
      5. +2
        24 November 2019 23: 44
        It kills Russian weapons much better, but it’s more likely that it will be at exhibitions or it’s ripping off their hands.
      6. 0
        25 November 2019 01: 45
        Would a tank kill people in the Donbass less?
    2. +4
      24 November 2019 19: 28
      A hammer to help them.
    3. +1
      24 November 2019 19: 57
      That's probably one rifle and will be released in 5 years ....
      1. 0
        25 November 2019 13: 46
        For Zbroyar rifles, too, they said so. And for another too.
    4. +7
      24 November 2019 19: 59
      Quote: Incvizitor
      Well, the T-Rex doesn’t go well with the tank, even if they make a rifle. laughing

      It would be better if they revived their auto industry

      1. +3
        24 November 2019 22: 56
        Quote: Balu
        It would be better if they revived their auto industry

        and instead of tuning distortions did replicas of BMW
    5. +1
      24 November 2019 20: 00
      Most likely it will be the same as with the tank.
    6. +5
      24 November 2019 20: 15
      Here, to make a weapon of the mind is enough, but what did they do for a normal, peaceful life of the inhabitants? ??
      1. +4
        24 November 2019 20: 39
        You are right as never before !!! There were people like people, and at one time they became brothers .......
        1. +5
          24 November 2019 21: 41
          Quote: Alien From
          You are right as never before !!! There were people like people, and at one time they became brothers .......

          They were non-brothers, only after the "divorce" it manifested itself in all its glory. Ivans do not remember kinship.
  2. 0
    24 November 2019 18: 46
    But will that kul reach the middle of Dnipro?
    1. 0
      24 November 2019 19: 34
      It will fly by, fly by, and the armor-piercing incendiary bullet of this rifle will pierce any body armor like light armor like a knife with oil.
      1. +11
        24 November 2019 20: 24
        It’s possible to get into a growth target with 2 km only by chance, there are no sniper bullets of 14,5 mm, of those there are, in such a gap only you can get into the tank. Moreover, it will come to the target already at subsonic speed, so that bulletproof armor is not a fact that it will strike at such a distance.
        1. -7
          24 November 2019 21: 50
          Quote: 2Albert
          it will come to the target already at subsonic speed, so bulletproof armor is not a fact that it will strike at such a distance.


          And she doesn’t need to punch anything.
        2. -17
          24 November 2019 23: 29
          Now there are no sniper bullets, they will be so. The creation of this rifle, if it takes root in the Armed Forces, will pull the production of sniper cartridges.
          1. +11
            24 November 2019 23: 41
            In Ukraine there is no production of their machine gun cartridges, and they will produce sniper 14,5x114? Yeah - yeah. Soon!
            1. -3
              25 November 2019 10: 14
              1. Ukraine is capitalized !!!
              2. About shells 122, 152, Grad, Alder, Neptune, shots to the AGS also said so on this forum too. Cartridges 9n19, 9n18 are in full swing. Ukraine is 100% provided with them. 7,62n51 and 5,56n45 are produced. A plant for the production of other cartridges is being built. The production of cartridges did not stand in the first place, so the funds were redirected to other types of tools.
              1. +4
                25 November 2019 10: 31
                1. Why is it capitalized?
                2. There is no production of machine-gun cartridges; the plant is still under construction. So congratulations to the lie. As for the pistols - congratulations, this is a very important achievement :)))
                3. They produce shells, only in a small series :))) And the production of shells of unknown quality is not the production of sniper ammunition.
                4. Neptune - he doesn’t even have his own surveillance radar :) This is a piece of cake for PR. Alder - a product on the subject of 9M55, nobody knows its real performance characteristics as well as real production volumes. And given that in the Ukraine it is always LIE (hopak, mosinka armata killer, sau bogdana, gsn with rapsbury pi, take a look at the mosquito fleet, Azov dung men ...), that is, there are reasonable doubts about the technical characteristics and seriality: )
                1. -3
                  25 November 2019 13: 41
                  1. Why is Russia capitalized ???
                  2. The Fort factory produces 5,56n45 and Zbroyar. The plant will be built, you can rest assured.
                  3. What does small series mean ??? 100 thousand is small or large ??? The quality is normal, do not hesitate.
                  4. Neptune is created, period !!! 75 missiles ordered. Already in production. Enough for now. The rest, too, is spinning up a little. You want it so much that everything lies with us. The process is going on, I want it faster, but nobody canceled the laws of physics.
                  1. +1
                    25 November 2019 13: 43
                    Halva ... halva ...
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                      1. 0
                        26 November 2019 12: 38
                        Lavrov spoke about you at a press conference - two letters. How many more are there in Ukraine? Poor country.
          2. +6
            25 November 2019 01: 11
            Quote: Nashorn
            Now there are no sniper bullets, they will be so. The creation of this rifle, if it takes root in the Armed Forces, will pull the production of sniper cartridges.

            the thought that turned a county town into the capital of the globe will turn into applied science and invent ways of interplanetary communication. From Vasyukov signals will fly to Mars, Jupiter and Neptune. Communication with Venus will become as easy as moving from Rybinsk to Yaroslavl. And there, as you know, maybe eight years later the first interplanetary chess tournament in the history of the universe will take place in Vasyuki!
          3. +1
            25 November 2019 09: 47
            Quote: Nashorn
            Now there are no sniper bullets, they will be so. The creation of this rifle, if it is in the APU take root, nwill delay production sniper cartridges.
            And in what quality will it take root WITHOUT cartridges?

            As a club?
          4. 0
            25 November 2019 10: 02
            Alexander.
            I believe.
            The creation of this rifle, if it takes root in the APU, will pull the production of sniper cartridges.

            Healthy optimism. For starters, I would suggest getting gross from warehouses and scales ... How not? !! Where are your 14,5x114? !! Spioneril? It seems like a dead-end caliber .....
            1. -2
              25 November 2019 13: 26
              And sniper cartridges 14,5n114 were generally produced during the USSR ??? It's about sniping.
        3. -16
          24 November 2019 23: 35
          For this, there are already computer sights with wind sensors and a range finder - there will be no accidents, there will be a hit, even at a distance of 3 kilometers.
          1. +14
            24 November 2019 23: 38
            Quote: Vadim237
            there will be no accidents, there will be a hit, even at a distance of 3 kilometers

            Yeah. In a matchbox. Bullet from the CPV. To sense.

            Vadim, if the cartridge gives a scatter - no sight will help you out. This, call me, ABC request
            1. 0
              24 November 2019 23: 51
              Not everyone knows this alphabet. As well as the fact that there is practically no good sniper cartridge for SVD. That is, he is in the instruction, in the books there is in practice not. And all ... even a good sniper with SVD would never show his capabilities.
              1. +2
                25 November 2019 00: 13
                1. SVD does not shoot for 3 km.
                2. There is a sniper cartridge for the SVD, no matter what complaints it is, and machine-gun cartridges do not shoot from it
                3. Snipers have long switched to longitudinally sliding in Russia too, the SVD is a Marxman rifle, without claims to the wonders of accuracy.
                1. 0
                  25 November 2019 00: 23
                  And somewhere I wrote a 3 km shot from the SVD? In my time, there was never a sniper cartridge. And they shot with what they have. more precisely, what they give. And do not claim that everyone switched to sliding gates. This immediately suggests to me that you are poorly versed in this topic. And remember in the Russian army there is no concept of "Marksman".
                  1. +4
                    25 November 2019 06: 45
                    Quote: tracer
                    remember in the Russian army there is no concept of "Marksman".

                    There is no concept, there is functionality.
              2. +1
                25 November 2019 06: 42
                "There is practically no good sniper cartridge for SVD."

                Finns help out. True, dearoooooo ...
                1. 0
                  25 November 2019 06: 55
                  All precision is very expensive. This is the whole snag. There are cheaper methods to get someone. And about the fact that the best sniper rifle is a tank .. Nifiga is not a joke.
                  1. +2
                    25 November 2019 08: 31
                    Quote: tracer
                    the best sniper rifle is a tank .. nifiga no jokes.

                    There is no arguing. I personally observed the application. True, as a sniper;)
              3. +2
                25 November 2019 10: 10
                there is practically no good sniper cartridge for SVD. That is, he is in the instruction, in the books there is in practice not.

                There is. Even if not available, you need to work with pens. Scales, pennies, vernier calipers .... Yeah! Night, street, lantern, pharmacy ... We take and shovel a pile of rock - there will be pearls.
            2. -1
              25 November 2019 13: 22
              So the scatter of the cartridge is known to the computer sight, you think a laser rangefinder and a meter for wind speed and air temperature are placed on it for a Kim dick.
              1. +3
                25 November 2019 13: 59
                Quote: Vadim237
                think for Kim dick on it they put a laser rangefinder and a meter for wind speed and air temperature

                Vadik, you are a miracle Yes

                Quote: Vadim237
                cartridge scatter - known to a computer sight

                Yes. Only unknown how and in which direction that particular cartridge with which now shoot, "scatter".

                But because again:

                Quote: Golovan Jack
                if the cartridge gives a spread - no sight will help you out. This, call me, ABC
              2. 0
                26 November 2019 06: 40
                So the scatter of the cartridge is known to the computer sight, you think they put a laser rangefinder on it and wind speed and air temperature meter.

                Vadim. I hope for you. "The gun shoots, the wind carries bullets ..." At the designated distance, what you call "computer sight" cannot count anything. The speed and direction of air flows will be different along the way. So again with arms and legs. We'll strip the women's tights into ribbons and hang them on the bushes (well, or ask for scouts). Scissors - needle - thread - gas mask. It turns out a kind of wristband, three rounds. Then the temperature of the cartridge "under the skin" will be constantly equal to the body temperature. And do not care what your "computer sight" shows "overboard". Forgot to ask, does this sight know a shot from a clean, cold barrel or a fifth one?
          2. +4
            24 November 2019 23: 45
            What the hell is a computer sight, if sniper rifle trunks are not made in Ukraine - there are no technologies and specialists for this and sniper cartridges are not made? You can put at least four sights in a row and screw the corrections for the strength of Coriolis ... but if the barrel is shit (read how the same Lobayev’s trunks do, check out the barrel of the barrel with its cooling system, which is not here) and the machine gun cartridge - it’s unlikely to get even by accident whether it will turn out somewhere further than 500 meters.
            1. -1
              25 November 2019 00: 00
              claim that the trunks do it yourself
              1. +5
                25 November 2019 00: 08
                Yes, let them say anything. These are Ukrainians.
                They have a cartridge of 14,5x114mm. When making their own barrel of such a length under a cartridge of such power, they would love to encounter problems of cooling, stiffness and mass. You look at what the barrel of Barrett or KSVK looks like, and they do not say there under a less powerful cartridge and 1 MOA ....
                1. +2
                  25 November 2019 09: 12
                  Quote: 30hgsa
                  1 MOA do not state there


                  fellow
                  1. +3
                    25 November 2019 10: 24
                    If we translate in millimeters, we need to multiply the distance by the tangent of the angle of 50 minutes.
                    This is approximately 0,015 .... it turns out that on the declared 3000 meters, holes will draw a circle with a radius of 45 meters :)
                    1. +1
                      25 November 2019 13: 22
                      That's right, just not a circle, but a circle, but this is so, nitpicking, could not resist, I'm sorry ...
                  2. -1
                    25 November 2019 13: 07
                    Few people noticed your post. After these numbers it was possible not to think about what and how .. I did not notice the inscription. This is a demonstration of the complete incompetence of the designers. 50MOA is, I would say, unique to sniper rifles. There are no such in nature. But the "great" ukrov have ... Further quote by Sergey Lavrov
                    1. 0
                      25 November 2019 13: 58
                      I think that this is still a "mistake". Judging by the photos and the cartridges available in nature, 5 MOA may be there, but this does not give the right to call this rifle "sniper".
                      1. -2
                        25 November 2019 15: 32
                        And since when is even a 5 MOA rifle considered a sniper? ))) And here they put the vinar at the exhibition ...))) With 50 MOA))))
                      2. 0
                        25 November 2019 15: 35
                        Quote: tracer
                        since when even 5 MOA rifle is considered a sniper

                        Not with any. So I wrote:
                        Quote: Fikys
                        this does not give the right to call this rifle "sniper".
                      3. -2
                        25 November 2019 16: 24
                        Vadim here in pink glasses argues. With the engineering staff that settled these armies of dropouts everywhere, this is impossible.
                    2. +1
                      25 November 2019 22: 53
                      Quote: tracer
                      50MOA is what I would say is unique to sniper rifles.
                      And if from the hip?
            2. -3
              25 November 2019 14: 09
              The partners will help, they provide them with sights and night-vision devices, communications equipment, thermal imagers, drones and even counter-artillery fighting stations, now they are building a plant if they haven’t built it, on which 308 and other cartridges will be produced, including sniper rounds in Ukraine full of people whose boiler is cooking and hands from where they need to grow from - they will make both a barrel for 14,5 and a sniper and a cartridge of 14,5 - again if they haven’t already.
          3. +2
            25 November 2019 10: 05
            For this, there are already computer sights with wind sensors and a range finder - there will be no accidents,

            Vadim. Do not introduce people to fornication. The sight with a wind sensor pleased me .... What game did you download to your phone?
            1. -1
              25 November 2019 19: 26
              Sight on the likeness of this - without any toys on the phone

              "The IWT LF640 PRO sight runs under the Linux operating system and in terms of computing power will plug a powerful smartphone in the belt. The hardware and functionality of the device match, which is not at all limited to the automatic calculation of ballistics.

              The sight records the moment of the shot. This can be useful both for training purposes (analyze your own aiming technique, show the record to the trainer), and as proof of the legality of your actions if the device is used by military or police units. The video image from the thermal sensor can be transmitted in real time to an external display or smartphone via Wi-Fi. The sight finds a common language with gadgets on iOS, Android and Windows Phone.

              At the time of aiming, the device calculates the coordinates of the target, based on the data of the built-in magnetic compass, rangefinder, GPS-receiver and goniometer.

              IWT sights can independently track down a target for you using motion detection. If a moving object appears in the field of view, the device will alert the shooter using a vibrating alert on the wrist remote control. The remote, resembling a clock, duplicates the controls located on the instrument case. Using it is much more convenient to use the on-screen menu.

              Advanced models of sights are equipped with a "friend or foe" identification system and a rangefinder detection means. At the same time, the sight itself is protected from detection by night vision devices, thermal imagers, radar equipment and newfangled SWIR devices operating in the short-wave infrared range. A rifle equipped with an IWT sight is targeted with one cartridge: analyzing the image of a bullet hole in a target, the computer makes the necessary corrections the first time into the program. Of course, the ballistics of a bullet depends on both the rifle model and the type of cartridge. The device memory can store settings for eight rifles with three types of cartridges for each, if the user needs to quickly move the sight from one weapon to another. ”You guys are behind in life.
              1. -3
                25 November 2019 19: 32
                He has his own weather station for a ballistic computer.
      2. +1
        24 November 2019 20: 29
        If the trunk does not break.
        1. 0
          24 November 2019 21: 57
          Quote: Captive
          If the trunk does not break.

          It all depends on how and from what steel this barrel will be made. "Hammer" they regularly cripple their calculations. Here is a good article on the anti-tank rifles of Degtyarev and Simonov, in principle, Ukraine has not invented anything new.
          https://zen.yandex.ru/media/rufirearmsclub/sravnenie-protivotankovyh-rujei-ptrd-i-ptrs-5bd85ac86de14e00aaa6690d
      3. +1
        24 November 2019 22: 53
        Interestingly, and at what distance will the arrow throw back?
        1. +5
          24 November 2019 23: 30
          The arrows will be disposable)))
        2. 0
          25 November 2019 22: 55
          Quote: Village I ......
          Interestingly, and at what distance will the arrow throw back?
          In South Africa, and 200 mm is ... with the PTRD / PTRS somehow coped.
  3. +6
    24 November 2019 18: 47
    Three copies will go into the series, copies of the PTRD with a muzzle brake a la Barrett?))
    1. +3
      24 November 2019 18: 51
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      Three copies in a series will go

      If they go. wink How is this experienced dinosaur better than the same South African NTW-20 in the same caliber, except for less mass and length? NTW-20 is already serial, unlike this unit. request
      1. +20
        24 November 2019 18: 53
        Be that as it may, but a serious thing, it can do things.
        Personally, I wish her the fate of the Hammer mortar)
        1. +1
          24 November 2019 18: 56
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          I wish the fate of the Hammer mortar

          If, nevertheless, by some miracle, this dinosaur gets on the conveyor - the fate of the "Hammer" is guaranteed with a probability of 120%, IMHO.
          1. +3
            24 November 2019 18: 59
            Because this dinosaur is extremely effective, if the Sumerians master production from scratch, it will be sad.
            1. +5
              24 November 2019 19: 02
              With such a powerful ammunition, the requirements for the quality of the barrel must be very serious. Will skakuass be able to do this? Or again the hope that "abroad will help them"?
              1. +5
                24 November 2019 19: 07
                This is the intrigue))

                The cartridges are already quite old, there is no production, is there a way to produce barrels of sufficient quality, etc. The question is open)
                1. +1
                  24 November 2019 19: 49
                  Quote: Lord of the Sith
                  The question is open)

                  Exactly . As well as many other questions to the "land U".
              2. +5
                24 November 2019 19: 59
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                With such a powerful ammunition, the requirements for the quality of the barrel must be very serious. Will skakuass be able to do this? Or again the hope that "abroad will help them"?

                Pasha, I’ll add on my own ... I also doubt that they will be able to make the barrel of the required quality, as well as the mechanism of the recoil system of the barrel - in itself it is very complicated! In fact, it works like an artillery system! Even if they manage to sculpt something ... the operating requirements are prohibitive! The non-brothers are not looking for easy ways, they are trying to invent everything - the invented bicycle. There is NO SPECIAL demand for such systems; Hindus quickly experimented with their Destroyer ...
                Let's see what happens ...
                1. +4
                  24 November 2019 20: 01
                  Quote: Hunter 2
                  Let's see what happens ...

                  Most likely we'll see another "zilch".
                  1. +4
                    24 November 2019 20: 08
                    I’m just curious. Those who gave them the task for this unit, what kind of "bright" head ... and what niche do they want to fill it ???
                    1. +4
                      24 November 2019 20: 11
                      Quote: Hunter 2
                      Those assignment to this unit who gave them

                      Lesh, are you sure that the technical task was there at all? recourse
                      1. +13
                        24 November 2019 20: 19
                        Hmm ... I never thought about that. what
                        Then I have a rational proposal for the non-brothers ... remove from storage the forty-five times of the Second World War, remove the armor plates, set the scope with a modern and “sniper” calculation of three half-wits - roll through the fields a NEW even more powerful “sniper” rifle with a caliber of 45 mm ... fellow no one in the world will have this! I guarantee! lol wassat
                      2. +5
                        24 November 2019 20: 22
                        I won’t be surprised if the raguli have already thought about it after your comment. lol
                      3. 0
                        25 November 2019 22: 58
                        Quote: bouncyhunter
                        I won’t be surprised if the raguli have already thought about it after your comment.
                        In the LDNR ZUS-23 was turned into a "sniper" ... why not give a symmetrical answer? So they will reach 152 mm ...
                    2. 0
                      24 November 2019 23: 34
                      This is their initiative development. First they made 12,7, and then this one.
                2. +2
                  24 November 2019 20: 15
                  I also doubt that they will be able to make the barrel of the required quality, as well as the mechanism of the recoil system of the barrel - in itself it is very complicated! In fact, it works like an artillery system! Even if they manage to sculpt something ... the operating requirements are prohibitive!

                  That's why I said about "three things". You can master it, but is it necessary?
                  1. 0
                    25 November 2019 13: 48
                    And how are things with the "Separatist" 23mm which?
                    1. +1
                      25 November 2019 13: 49
                      Honestly, without a clue, personally, I have not seen, piece development))
                3. +5
                  24 November 2019 20: 39
                  Quote: Hunter 2
                  Auger I doubt that they can make the barrel of the required quality

                  No one makes anything there. Use ordinary trunks with ZPU-2 (4). The caliber is the same, the size of the trunk, too, in stocks of trunks is full, i.e. another scam on the headstock.
            2. 0
              24 November 2019 23: 33
              I don’t know who the Sumerians are, but in Kharkov this rifle has already been made and passed the tests. There is a video on YouTube.
              1. +3
                25 November 2019 06: 36
                The Sumerians are very ancient people who dug up the Black Sea, launched the first satellite, those who still ride on the Maidan, who have a Bender hero and who betrayed Russia!
                1. -3
                  25 November 2019 10: 22
                  If not for your explanation, I would not have known. Especially enlightened by the Bender hero and about Russia.
                  1. 0
                    25 November 2019 14: 21
                    Please! hi I can still enlighten more than that ..)
                    1. 0
                      25 November 2019 22: 59
                      Quote: krot
                      Please!
                      His last name was Bаndera ..
          2. -8
            24 November 2019 23: 31
            The hammers did not explode due to workmanship.
            1. +2
              25 November 2019 06: 31
              The hammers exploded and explode from the curves of the Sumerian pens that make it and who use it))
        2. +4
          24 November 2019 19: 45
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          Anyway, but the thing is serious

          Yes - the caliber is impressive. But, purely IMHO - I do not understand the purpose of this rifle. What goals are intended? Light armored vehicles? Living power? Judging by the length of the barrel and the caliber, targets at a distance of more than a kilometer are still assumed. I will assume two. At an initial speed of 1000 m / s, two kilometers a bullet will overcome seconds in three to three and a half. To hit a moving target, hellish luck and experience are needed. At a distance of a kilometer, a shot will be heard so that an acoustic station is not needed.

          Here, make it clear who is in the courses ...
          1. -11
            24 November 2019 22: 15
            They themselves answered their own question: "light armored vehicles." And "living force" behind the stone-concrete barriers. In addition, it is quite possible to knock out various devices and attachments from it on heavy armored vehicles. And use as during the Second World War, anti-tank guns were used, shooting at tracks, etc.
            1. +2
              25 November 2019 02: 10
              Banderlogs from it will be mainly fired at school and kindergarten yards from a long distance. In order to be able to get away from the militias later.
          2. 0
            26 November 2019 08: 02
            Here, make it clear who is in the courses ...

            Konstantin. I will explain. Attack on airplanes - helicopters in parking lots. The target is the size of an airplane engine, the point of impact is not important. hi
  4. +1
    24 November 2019 18: 49
    I periodically read about XADO company news. Press releases are impressive, but correctly noted - the amount is classified. True, by indirect indications (the manufacturer does not cry about the lack of orders and financing), it can be assumed that small-scale production is present.
  5. +1
    24 November 2019 18: 49
    This is probably the version of the Czechoslovak rifle Elephant, which was used by Islamic terrorists and Bandera in Chechnya, against the Russian Federation
    1. +8
      24 November 2019 18: 57
      Quote: Bear040
      This is probably the version of the Czechoslovak rifle Elephant

      Hungarian Under the cartridge of KPVT.
    2. -2
      24 November 2019 23: 37
      No. They have their own shutter, patented.
  6. +1
    24 November 2019 18: 51
    Planning to use machine gun cartridges from Soviet stocks?
    Or buy from the Bulgarians?
  7. +1
    24 November 2019 18: 52
    Photo of the product is very reminiscent of tortured CPV. Especially the shutter.
    1. -5
      24 November 2019 23: 37
      The shutter is not like that, it has its own, patented XADO.
  8. +5
    24 November 2019 19: 00
    Trunks, trunks where do? The rest is not too interesting. A sniper rifle differs from a machine gun in accuracy and accuracy. And these are both trunks and cartridges! And the bolt group, and mount the barrel in the receiver ...
    If the "clever men" disassembled the KPVT and built THIS from its barrel, it is unlikely to work as a long-range sniper unit ...
    1. +2
      24 November 2019 19: 34
      Rather, the PTRD from mobilization warehouses is saw taking an example from the Donbass.
      1. +2
        25 November 2019 10: 53
        Quote: Strashila
        Rather, the PTRD from mobilization warehouses is saw taking an example from the Donbass.

        PTR has one problem - dispersion. For PTRD and PTRS, the median deviations at 500 m are 37 cm in height and 29 cm lateral. 500 m core stripes are generally 105 and 92 cm.

        It was about this that all the good wishes about the installation of optics on the PTR were smashed - what's the point in an optical sight, if already for half a kilometer the "best" half of the bullets fall in the area of ​​74x68 cm.
    2. -3
      24 November 2019 19: 36
      In the same place as the cartridges - in Europe.
    3. -7
      24 November 2019 23: 40
      XADO has trunks not from KPVT. At the exhibition this year, they talked about where and how they are made. Now I do not remember exactly.
    4. +1
      25 November 2019 00: 01
      The barrel is round in cross section - without ribs providing cooling, stiffness and weight reduction if the wall thickness is needed. IMHO this is exactly what PTR or CPV barrel.
  9. +2
    24 November 2019 19: 17
    The African tribe "Mumbu Yumbu", became the owner of a super-super vigorous Bonboy. They don't know how it works and why it is needed. But they are sure that this piece of iron will allow them to become the coolest monkeys in the herd!
  10. +2
    24 November 2019 19: 18
    ... It should be recalled that at one time in Ukraine they tried to create a tank with the same name. However, the Tirex tank remained on paper.

    Exactly, exactly, I wanted to be surprised how their tank shrunk.
    1. 0
      25 November 2019 08: 49
      Quote: rocket757
      Exactly, exactly, I wanted to be surprised how their tank shrunk.

      this "Azov" wanted to cut tanks in his workshop ..
      1. 0
        25 November 2019 09: 51
        Quote: Antares
        this "Azov" wanted to cut tanks in his workshop

        Yes, there are all sorts of "entertainers" start up ... or crowded together. Who will disassemble them now.
  11. +6
    24 November 2019 19: 21
    The sniper has one shot, and a change of position. How many people will pull this miracle from a position ?! And if secretly?
    1. -10
      24 November 2019 19: 38
      With such a barrel and a special optical finder, all snipers will be dead within a radius of 3 kilometers from this rifle.
      1. +6
        24 November 2019 19: 46
        Quote: Vadim237
        With such a barrel and a special optical finder, all snipers will be dead within a radius of 3 kilometers from this rifle.

        Vadim, it’s been proven for a long time: the best counter-sniper rifle is a 125-mm tank gun Yes
        1. -5
          24 November 2019 20: 07
          And the anti-tank is best suited for the ATGM Competition - unfortunately the APU has the same thing, it also has its own ATGMs Stugna with remote control. And yes, the sniper tank will not see, but the sniper tank will see and can take out all the optical instruments to it - with a rifle 14,5 this will be easier to do.
          1. +1
            24 November 2019 23: 20
            Quote: Vadim237
            the sniper tank will not see, but the sniper tank will see and can take out all the optical instruments to it - with a rifle 14,5 this will be easier to do.

            the idea is not new in general
          2. +2
            24 November 2019 23: 55
            Yeah, he’ll shoot all the triplexes, this disgrace has already passed
            «»
            By the way, judging by the picture, the styleto sniper was going to shoot elements of KAZ :)
            1. -4
              25 November 2019 13: 26
              In Chechnya - in the city, tank sights were not only beaten often - a tank couldn’t see a sniper at a long distance.
          3. +1
            25 November 2019 09: 57
            Quote: Vadim237
            , the sniper tank will not see, but the sniper tank will see

            If everything was so easy, it wouldn’t have been necessary for sniper courses to work constantly!
            They find them REGULARLY and then take these "fans" of long-range shooting home, sometimes in parts.
            The same consumables for war.
        2. -12
          25 November 2019 00: 49
          the best counter sniper rifle is a 125 mm tank gun

          There it is, like Mikhalych ... And the men do not even know .... That's right, during the Second World War, only tanks snipers and "destroyed" (oh yes, then there was no 125 mm ....) .... Well , then .... I remember amerikosovsky film - there is something about a "storm" (I could be wrong) .... and there the main character only used a tank gun of snipers and drenched ... yeah ...
          1. -3
            25 November 2019 08: 55
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            Well, then .... I remember the American film - there is something about a "storm" (I could be wrong) .... and there the protagonist only used a tank gun from snipers and drenched ... yeah ...

            but I remember the Sea battle, there the snipers smashed the screens of the alien ship! Oh how.

            all the same snipers
            it’s only part of the war, not superheroes deciding the outcome.
    2. 0
      26 November 2019 08: 11
      The sniper has one shot, and a change of position.

      Maxim Leonidovich! Did you happen to master the position? At night, but in the rain with snow ... This porridge is quietly worn in a raincoat in the wild ...
      No! To make a good nest is how to build a house. One shot, this is from the jump ....
  12. +2
    24 November 2019 19: 32
    An indicator of what human laziness is capable of, we would go to a museum, familiarize ourselves with the PTRS, make it a'la west, with slats and body kits, a new muzzle brake. We would have received a self-loading rifle with a 5-round magazine.
    1. -2
      24 November 2019 20: 08
      The PTRS had an effective range of 800 m, this one had 3 km.
      PTRS was not sniper.
      1. +4
        25 November 2019 03: 30
        respected, 800 m, the so-called effective firing range, sighting 1500 m
        and 3 km is the range of the bullet.
        1. 0
          25 November 2019 11: 54
          Quote: Strashila
          and 3 km is the range of the bullet.

          And it is clear that the person did not read the article. As it usually happens here - "I have not read, but I condemn".
      2. 0
        25 November 2019 11: 24
        And who said that the presented article is a "sniper rifle"? An air gun, if you put an optical sight on it, does this become a "sniper"?
    2. +1
      25 November 2019 11: 05
      Quote: Strashila
      Would get a self-loading rifle with a magazine for 5 rounds.

      Would get something that requires several years of refinement. For to remake PTRS into a sniper, you need to throw out almost all the stuffing.
      The complexity of the device, the greater sensitivity to pollution cause large delays when shooting. After firing 15–20 rounds, the breech and bore require cleaning, otherwise the ejector will tear the edge of the sleeve. This causes delays in shooting and in many ways reduces the already insignificant rate of fire of the gun. There are cases of transverse rupture of the liner.
      © from the report of the Chief of Staff of the Artillery of the 1st Ukrainian Front, Colonel Murzin in the autumn of 1944.
      Simonov did the PTR very quickly, and there was no experience with heavy duty cartridges in the USSR, so often experiments were used instead of calculations.
      As the designer of the PTRS rifle, Comrade S. Simonov, told me, the existing location of the gas hole (541 mm from the muzzle end) was determined by him purely experimentally, based on the requirements of the rifle’s operation for the given tactical and technical requirements of the GAU KA, which were in force during the design of the rifle , i.e. firing with oiled cartridges.

      © senior engineer of the technical department of the NKV V. Karasev
      Plus the known PTR problems with accuracy - at 500 m you can only hit a target the size of an armored personnel carrier, and not just into the hatch, but somewhere “into the silhouette”.

      All quotes are from the article uv. A. Ulanov "PTRS - a problem without a solution."
  13. +2
    24 November 2019 19: 43
    Sniper or anti-material? What is the accuracy? Ammo again. With such a caliber, much will depend on the cartridges. Geometry and weight of gunpowder.
  14. +2
    24 November 2019 19: 44
    Let it be the same as with the "Hammer".))
  15. +3
    24 November 2019 19: 51
    Serial production of Snipex T-Rex heavy duty rifle launched in Ukraine

    How to evaluate it? If by:
    The weight of this sniper weapon is 22,5 kg. The assembled length is 1830 mm with a barrel length of 1200 mm. The effective range of the manufacturer is estimated at 3 km. Muzzle velocity - 1000 m / s. The maximum range of a bullet is 7 km.

    Then it becomes clear for what "war" and against whom this rifle is made - carrying these one and a half pounds is very burdensome, but for unarmed citizens from a long distance ...
    The weight of most models of sniper rifles does not exceed 6,5-8 kg ...
    I will not admire this "miracle" of small arms, since I suppose against whom it will be directed.
    1. -1
      24 November 2019 22: 45
      PTRS and PTRD in the region of 20 kilos weigh, also probably against the pit?
      1. +3
        25 November 2019 04: 21
        Quote: Alex_You
        PTRS and PTRD in the region of 20 kilos weigh, also probably against the pit?

        You know, no ... These are ordinary anti-tank rifles that were used against tanks, the firing efficiency in movement of which was from 300 to 800 m (with a firing range from standstill to 6 km), which, in turn, did not oblige the calculation of MFIs to be changed deployment after each shot.
        I don’t think that the sniper will choose the model of the rifle that needs to be carried on a cart or easier to drop than to drag alone ...
        1. +1
          25 November 2019 12: 08
          Quote: ROSS 42
          These are ordinary anti-tank rifles that were used against tanks, the firing efficiency in movement of which was from 300 to 800 m (with a firing range from standstill up to 6 km), which, in turn, did not oblige the calculation of the PTR to change the location after each shot.

          800 m with an open sight - it's too much even for shooting at the tank. smile
          For the PTR, the working range is up to 400 m. Because, to defeat armored vehicles, firing must be carried out not in silhouette, but in weak spots. And with a median deviation of the PTRD and PTRS already from 500 m, you can only get into the engine compartment.
          By the way, here is what contemporaries wrote about the place of PTR in combat order:
          3. PTR calculations, acting directly in the battle formations of the infantry, are a big target and are quickly exposed to enemy fire. Examples: in the battles in the Saur-Mogila region, the PTR units of the 3rd Guards SD in 10 hours of the battle lost 18 calculations completely and two calculations for one person out of a total of XNUMX calculations

          All the same places ...
          1. +2
            25 November 2019 12: 10
            What are you reading? I have written ABOUT TANKS !!!
            which were used against tanks, shooting efficiency in move which was from 300 to 800 m (with a firing range from standstill to 6 km),
            1. 0
              25 November 2019 14: 31
              Quote: ROSS 42
              What are you reading? I have written PRO TANKS !!!
              which were used against tanks, the firing efficiency in movement of which was from 300 to 800 m (with a firing range from standstill to 6 km),

              And I write about the calculation of PTR. who shoots at this tank with 400 m or less (and according to the instructions - generally from 50-100 m).
              Sighting range from a self-loading rifle (PTRS) - 1500 m, from a single-shot (PTRD) - 1000 m. The best shooting results are achieved at a range of 300-400 m and closer.

              Let the enemy tanks at the closest distances (50-100 m).

              And which at such a distance is detected by the tank or the infantry accompanying it very quickly. So if you want to survive, change your position after a few shots.
              By the way, in the instruction for PTR-shchikov it was directly written that there would be a lot of calculation to run with a gun, because maneuver is the basis of efficiency and survival.
              The lightness of the gun, the convenience of carrying, the simple equipment of the firing positions, the ability to use natural barriers as a shelter - all this makes the calculation of an anti-tank gun invulnerable.
              Take this into account and put into practice:
              - in all cases have spare firing positions;
              - After making 5-10 shots from one position, go to another;
              - if the enemy’s tanks go in a direction unfavorable for you, immediately secretly take another position to hit them aboard and aft;
              - maneuvering on the battlefield, bring the tank under the blow of another calculation;
      2. +2
        25 November 2019 08: 57
        Quote: Alex_You
        PTRS and PTRD in the region of 20 kilos weigh, also probably against the pit?

        Yes, all weapons are against the peaceful people.
        From the military, they bounce like peas.
        (common element of information warfare)
    2. +1
      25 November 2019 13: 37
      Heavy? And how do you like this "gun".
      "Among the unique samples there is also a hand-held 30-millimeter cannon. At the beginning it was a conventional ZTM-2 gun, which was produced by the Precision Mechanics Plant in the city of Kamenets-Podolsky. This gun was removed from the destroyed Ukrainian BMP-2. To this cannon, big-headed and handy Russian men have attached a super-effective muzzle brake of an active type, which not only compensates for the recoil force, but even leads to the roll-out of the gun.
      This cannon has a small number of Oerlikon cartridges, whose feathered shells pierce the stern and rear side armor of T-64 tanks. "
      https://anaga.ru/oruzhie-opolchencev.htm?utm_source=warfiles.ru
      1. +1
        25 November 2019 14: 04
        And here's another 30-mm "gun". Maadi-Griffin Hand Cannon Designed by Bob Stewart in 1994. Weight - 21,6 kg.
        http://sniper50.narod.ru/html-s/maadi_griffin_30.html
  16. +3
    24 November 2019 19: 58
    I congratulate the Ukrainians on the invention of the PTR. In KamAZ from 3 km get out of it?
  17. +1
    24 November 2019 19: 59
    XADO since 2016, in my opinion, have been the official suppliers of Ukraine to me, we have officially delivered automobile oils and lubricants to Russia
    1. +2
      24 November 2019 22: 17
      Sells more lubricants for small arms
    2. +1
      25 November 2019 02: 11
      If you believe the Internet, with the partnership of the deputy Valuev.
  18. +3
    24 November 2019 20: 02
    What other advantages besides Picatinny rails does this miracle have?
  19. -9
    24 November 2019 20: 18
    Even Azerbaijan (Istiglal), even Khlamin mastered a sniper chambered for caliber 14,5. But in Russia they couldn’t.
    1. +6
      24 November 2019 20: 26
      If you can even figure out why you need it, then it will be just cool. And then only empty words.
    2. KCA
      +4
      24 November 2019 21: 06
      We are enough for 10.3:
      Our snipers set a new world record in the range of shooting from a sniper rifle - 4210 meters. The group of champions was led by sniper Andrei Ryabinsky, the shot was fired from the SVLK-14 "Twilight" rifle.
      The target was 1x1 meter
      1. +3
        24 November 2019 21: 11
        Lobaev, a very talented gunsmith! good
        1. KCA
          0
          24 November 2019 21: 16
          Yes, in principle, they offer the caliber and barrel length according to the customer’s choice, and if someone wants to wipe the snot on the gunsmiths on / off and order a barrel of 14.5mm, they will do it without problems
      2. 0
        24 November 2019 21: 47
        Quote: KCA
        the shot was fired from the SVLK-14 "Twilight" rifle.
        The target was 1x1 meter
        For some reason I remembered Vitya "Twilight" ... laughing
  20. +3
    24 November 2019 20: 32
    I'm wondering what the inscription 50MOA means. If this is true 50 MOA, then accuracy is generally not at such a rifle.
    1. +1
      24 November 2019 22: 12
      They write that 1 moa.
    2. -1
      24 November 2019 22: 19
      Intrigued. I looked, but could not find where the inscription 50moa?
      1. +3
        24 November 2019 22: 22
        Quote: Avior
        I looked, but could not find where the inscription 50moa?

        Bottom photo, upper right corner.
  21. +3
    24 November 2019 20: 38
    In my humble opinion. The idea of ​​sitting far away and shooting accurately at an unattainable distance is difficult to implement. Well, judge for yourself, the characteristics of the best of the best sniper rifles 1 moa, at a kilometer it is a circle of 30 cm. This fool with this cartridge, at best, will have a spread of 1 m per kilometer. With such accuracy, firing at manpower is ineffective. Car, armored vehicles, dugout. That smaller you need to get closer, and closer this fool is an excellent target. The best sniper rifle is the BCC - "the silent death of Russian production".
    1. -2
      24 November 2019 22: 12
      They write that the accuracy of 1moa
      1. +3
        24 November 2019 23: 24
        Well, yes, a makeshift barrel under a machine-gun cartridge gives accuracy better than that of Barrett M82 :)) Let them write ...
        1. -2
          25 November 2019 00: 07
          your skepticism is understandable, but from what I read, we can conclude that this is a bit of a sporting interest for some of the owners of XADO.
          The company is profitable and quite wealthy, it is quite capable of buying the necessary equipment and hiring specialists.
          1. +3
            25 November 2019 00: 22
            If there was a serious company, there would be no delirium about 1MOA, we would not take 14.5x114 as a basis and would not call it a tyrex. They would take a sniper ammunition mass-produced in the West, the same 12,7x99 and create a sample for it (although they are unlikely to be able to master the production of trunks for sniper rifles) While this looks like ordinary Ukrainian bragging. As with a mosinka - armata killer. if in Ukraine even the production of submachine gun cartridges is still not there.
            1. +2
              25 November 2019 00: 37
              they have such samples
              under 12,7 × 99 mm, 12,7 × 108 mm, and under 14,5 × 114 mm
              with manual reloading and semiautomatic devices
              there are civilian versions for athletes and hunters and there are versions for the military
              https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/XADO_Snipex
              there is no page on Russian, but, I think, there you can make out
              they are mass-produced and commercially available
              about 10 thousand dollars apiece
              http://xadogun.com/oruzhie/nareznoe/rhino
              https://i-shop.dp.ua/snipex-50-bmg-rihno-hunter.html
              https://snipex.com/rhino-hunter.html
              the company organized production from scratch.
              including barrel production.
              1. +2
                25 November 2019 01: 04
                I don’t know what they have. I only know that Ukrainians are constantly caught in lies. The same armature killer from a stylet - they stated accuracy of 12 mm by 300 meters ... for a minute it is about 0,12 MOA and this is for a rifle based on the Mosin rifle ... Specialists then twisted a finger at the temple for a long time. So I consider any statement of Ukrainian gunsmiths after such punctures in advance as a lie. I don’t see any reason to consider ukrov’s statements to be true, if only because they have a barrel on their product - a typical barrel from the CPV - round in cross section (even if you look at the same South African rifle, as well as barrels, ksvk and t .d. - see what is wrong here).
                1. +2
                  25 November 2019 01: 13
                  I think you are too generalizing.
                  1. +1
                    25 November 2019 01: 17
                    I am not generalizing. 90% of the statements of Ukrainian gunsmiths for verification turn out to be lies. And not only gunsmiths. Bogdans, armata-killers, hopaks, nadii, vvchi zhrai of the mosquito fleet, patrols, gsn based on rapsbury pi ... And everything that has no analogues in the "axressor" ... unparalleled lies for lies. Where is it all? So this "rifle" is exposed now, it was overpowered and no one will ever remember about it. Unless they decide to cut the budget, but then get ready for zrade when there are barrels from the CPV and cartridges from it.
                    1. +2
                      25 November 2019 02: 01
                      I do not see abstract Ukrainians, but a specific private company, which can be called successful and quite serious, although its main products are not weapons at all.
                      Nevertheless, they have several models, weapons are mass-produced and are available for sale.
                      Therefore, in this particular case, before claiming low or high quality weapons, in my opinion, you need to see the results of independent tests.
                      hi
                      1. +2
                        25 November 2019 09: 34
                        No super-duper advanced barrel, let alone the one we see in the photo, will give 1MOA with a machine-gun cartridge, and there are no others in caliber 14,5x114!
                      2. +2
                        25 November 2019 10: 37
                        Independent tests that will never be? :)
                        In the meantime, they are not considered another ukrvundervaffe for the next superweapon?
                        Sorry, no.
    2. -1
      24 November 2019 22: 50
      At 300 meters sniper her hard to call.
    3. +2
      24 November 2019 23: 19
      BCC has no ice and many of its shortcomings. The best sniper rifle is essentially any rifle with a longitudinally-sliding bolt, made with the proper tolerances, to which there is the proper sniper ammunition with the necessary ballistics and manufacturing tolerances :)

      And the fact that Ukrainians rolled out here ... it's a cargo cult. Ammunition 14,5 * 114 in the sniper version was never developed and was not made. Weapons are designed from the ammunition, and not vice versa. Flirting Azerbaijan and the Hungarians on the topic of 14,5 does not count - there is about the same logic.
      1. 0
        25 November 2019 00: 23
        Truvelo CMS 14.5x114 mm (USA)
        https://topwar.ru/101021-krupnokalibernaya-snayperskaya-vintovka-truvelo-cms-145x114-mm-ssha.html
        M600 in various versions
        http://weaponland.ru/load/snajperskaja_vintovka_m500_m600_m650_amac_1500/90-1-0-430
        1. +1
          25 November 2019 00: 28
          For the M600, it is possible to manufacture in caliber 14,5 which no one uses.
          The South African handicraft (like the Hungarian, like the Azerbaijani, they also have rifles in caliber) did not receive distribution either. And so in the world what kind of garbage they do not. Including double-barreled pump-action shotguns ... so what?
          1. 0
            25 November 2019 00: 47
            it is clear that in such a caliber no one produces in large batches.
            but the fact that they are being developed in principle is a fact.
            and cargo cult, though direct, at least the reverse, there is clearly nothing to do with it.
            specifically about this they write that they developed according to the requirements of the military.
            apparently, specific requirements arise somewhere
            1. +2
              25 November 2019 01: 14
              It is cargo cult.

              Experiments with 14,5 mm in the field of sniper weapons are mainly experiments or related to attempts to obtain commercial advantages (due to having a theoretical version in this caliber that can be sold to loshariks in whom 14,5 machine guns are in warehouses) or attempts to make it yourself so that everything is like white people but in a common cartridge ... And if the first is just about the loot, then the second is the cargo cult - it is here that attempts are being made to make it obviously adult failures.

              The development of weapons in normal countries goes under ammunition, and here they deliberately make it under a machine-gun cartridge, knowing that there is no sniper cartridge and it is impossible to master serial production, and if you buy ... then it’s much cheaper to make weapons under a cartridge that is already mass produced and purchased his.

              Making a sniper rifle under 1,5 is the same as doing a sniper rifle under 16,9 ... it is not there either. Therefore, everything here goes exactly under the machine-gun cartridge, which is not good enough from the word for shooting, not that it is 3 km ... single 500 meters.

              Cargo cult - imitation. The way it is.
              1. 0
                25 November 2019 02: 06
                They have a ready-made, mass-produced weapon under the cartridge 12,7.
                There is no logic to release under 14,5 from those considerations that you wrote, in my opinion.
                All the same, under 14,5 they will not release much
    4. -5
      24 November 2019 23: 46
      If the gross cartridge, then the spread will be large. If they establish the production of sniper, then ...
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  23. 0
    24 November 2019 21: 26
    Does the hike go well, does the muzzle brake compensator save? Maybe some thread POU or bed stand?
    1. 0
      24 November 2019 22: 07
      There is still a retractable device to mitigate returns
      .has a bullpup layout with a rollback option.
      1. +3
        24 November 2019 23: 09
        Does the "rifle" based on CPV have a barrel rollback? :) Really! 7 !!! 111 What a damn surprise!
        1. +1
          25 November 2019 00: 38
          and still in the butt.
          about her, as well as about the company - manufacturer, quite a lot of information
    2. 0
      24 November 2019 23: 48
      In it, in the butt, a shock absorber is also made.
  24. +2
    24 November 2019 22: 59
    Typical cut.
    Caliber 14,5 was selected because there is CPV (T) and possibly anti-tank missiles, there is ammunition in storage. Hence cheap production based on Soviet stocks ... At the same time, nichrome ammunition is not sniper and, in fact, you need to master a new type of production in this caliber from scratch.

    In fact, it can and will show sufficient accuracy for advertising, but it’s exactly what is in advertising or paid trials - there you can use small-scale ammunition, which will be produced in a small series somewhere in the Czechs :)

    And if it is mass-produced, they will go to the troops with barrels from the PTR or KPV and the paddy slide group, also based on these. They will be loaded with a machine gun cartridge. As a result, it will shoot somewhere there ... Mirnyak will be nightmare for her, in short :(
    1. 0
      24 November 2019 23: 25
      Another 12,7 Barrett M 107 are delivered to Ukraine.
      1. +2
        24 November 2019 23: 32
        In Europe, do not produce, NTW-14,5 AMR - South African craft. Not received distribution. For shit.
        In Ukraine, they still have not mastered their own cartridge production instead of the Lugansk plant. What can we say about the production of sniper cartridges if vukarain does not produce automatic rifles?

        New trunk? On the exhibition sample can be. And so I do not believe in mass production in the country of trunks for sniper rifles in Ukraine - there is no machinery for this and specialists.

        As for the barrels - well, what is supplied?

        PS: how's the mosquito - Armata killer is doing? Went to a series?
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    1. +1
      25 November 2019 10: 45
      That Bandera Troll appeared! By the way, Overko for some reason I have been associated with Sirko - a purely national dog chase from an independent!
  26. 0
    24 November 2019 23: 16
    I searched the network and found that the photos of this rifle are different, it seems there are different versions
    This is the official site
    https://snipex.com/14-5.html
    The sight mount is different, the shutter handle is different, there are still differences
    But I found other interesting information.
    . The SNIPEX 14,5 rifle was developed by the private enterprise XADO (short for “Kharkov DOM”), founded back in 1991 in Kharkov and actively working in more than 60 countries, while being an active player in the Russian market. XADO's business partner is the famous Russian boxer Nikolai Valuev. XADO initially had no direct relation to the production of weapons, specializing in the production of motor oils and various "auto chemical goods".

    https://www.all4shooters.com/ru/strelba/ruzhya/xado-krupnokalibernaya-dalnoboynaya-vintovka-snipex-145//
    There the rifle is already called antimaterial
  27. +1
    24 November 2019 23: 50
    By the way, I looked again at the photo of this product ... it has a barrel ... round in cross section along the entire length ... Like a front-engine engine or machine gun ... Or problems that designers in the USA had when creating Barrett under a cartridge 12,7x99 and in the Russian Federation about the creation of the same KSVK chambered for 12,7x108 ... are we missing for a rifle chambered for 14,5x114? :))))))) Or is it a drive, not a rifle :) What kind of accuracy do you say? :) To the tractor from 100 meters? :)
    1. -2
      25 November 2019 13: 35
      It’s sure that it will hit the tractor from 1500 meters and will pierce through it.
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    1. +2
      25 November 2019 00: 51
      infrastructure and communications? Will they shoot on rails? :))))
      1. -10
        25 November 2019 01: 00
        Quote: 30hgsa
        infrastructure and communications? Will they shoot on rails? :))))

        Fuel barrels, field depots, roadblocks. Pipes, transformers, substations, tanks at railway crossings. Light vehicles on the march or parked. All that reach. Where armor-piercing, where bursting.
        1. +4
          25 November 2019 01: 06
          Discontinuous yes on transformers, cool ... :) By the way, 14,5x114 are discontinuous ... but where will they get them? :)
          1. -8
            25 November 2019 01: 08
            Quote: 30hgsa
            Discontinuous yes on transformers, cool ... :) By the way, 14,5x114 are discontinuous ... but where will they get them? :)

            They made a rifle - they’ll make ammunition.
            1. +2
              25 November 2019 01: 20
              In mentally healthy states, they make a rifle for ammunition, and not vice versa. Anyway. How do you see the "explosive" 14,5? :)
              1. -9
                25 November 2019 01: 36
                Quote: 30hgsa
                In mentally healthy states, they make a rifle for ammunition, and not vice versa. Anyway. How do you see the "explosive" 14,5? :)

                In mentally healthy states, first they create the concept of application, and then they do what is necessary for it. But the ammunition I should not see, but those who will do it. Incendiary is still useful too.
          2. -4
            25 November 2019 02: 08
            By transformer armor-piercing incendiary.
            The oil burns, in the windings the circuit is more reliable and does not fail, immediately to the scrap.
          3. +1
            25 November 2019 12: 12
            Quote: 30hgsa
            Discontinuous yes on transformers, cool ... :) By the way, 14,5x114 are discontinuous ... but where will they get them? :)

            In warehouses - cartridges of 14,5 MDZ and 14,5 MDZM were made during the time of the Union.
            1. +2
              25 November 2019 12: 16
              And in what place MDZ (instant action incendiary) - "EXPLOSIVE" cartridge, do not tell me?
              1. -1
                25 November 2019 14: 21
                Quote: 30hgsa
                And in what place MDZ (instant action incendiary) - "EXPLOSIVE" cartridge, do not tell me?


                MDZ is an abbreviation only. Introduced, as usual, to conceal the truth. And the full name of these bullets is an incendiary-explosive bullet of instant action.
    2. +2
      25 November 2019 06: 13
      "Ambushes, sabotage". This is a war in the rear. Now imagine how to carry it in the rear.
      1. -1
        25 November 2019 08: 08
        Quote: Tarhun
        "Ambushes, sabotage". This is a war in the rear. Now imagine how to carry it in the rear.

        Not necessary. There on each side snipers shoot every day; and not at all 3 km. That's not to carry and need 3km.
  29. +1
    25 November 2019 01: 13
    Quote: mvmptzna
    bursting

    what are these ???
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    2. -7
      25 November 2019 01: 16
      Quote: brr1
      Quote: mvmptzna
      bursting

      what are these ???

      How to begin to apply, and let's see which ones.
      1. +4
        25 November 2019 01: 33
        Quote: mvmptzna
        Quote: brr1
        Quote: mvmptzna
        bursting

        what are these ???

        How to begin to apply, and let's see which ones.

        Probably with a drop of nicotine on the tip to let the hamsters break apart.
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          1. +2
            25 November 2019 09: 25
            Quote: mvmptzna
            Quote: brr1
            to hamsters to tear apart.

            Maybe hamsters, Russian. There is a small hole on one side of the wall, and a huge hole and mince on the other.

            Uti-way villain couch
  30. 0
    25 November 2019 02: 23
    Serial .. This is 5-10 pieces per year .. Like tanks ..
    1. -2
      25 November 2019 13: 44
      No, this is 100 or more pieces per year.
  31. -3
    25 November 2019 03: 48
    Well, where is the work of our special services? Why is this project still not frustrated?
    1. +1
      25 November 2019 09: 04
      Quote: maidan.izrailovich
      Well, where is the work of our special services? Why is this project still not frustrated?

      why bother partners?
      Moreover, the internal affair. Yes, and private ... and even with a share of the Russian Duma ..
    2. +1
      25 November 2019 10: 39
      If this project is implemented and put on stream, it will be a great achievement in the field of reducing the combat effectiveness of the Armed Forces.
  32. +1
    25 November 2019 07: 17
    Something that reminds me of an anti-tank rifle, model 1941, hehe ...
  33. +2
    25 November 2019 08: 53
    Degtyarev once made a little easier
    Technical characteristics of the PTRD-41 (from the Book of War website):
    Weight - 17 kilograms;
    Total length - 200 cm;
    Barrel length - 135 cm;
    Caliber - 14,5 mm;
    Cartridge - 14,5x114 mm;
    Rate of fire is 8 - 10 rounds per minute;
    The initial speed of the bullet - 1020 meters per second;
    The radius of the maximum range of the shot is 1000 m;
    The range of a productive shot on a 40 mm sheet of rolled homogeneous steel is 100 m.
    Ammunition Type Used:

    B-32 - a projectile with increased armor-piercing effects and incendiary effect. It has a steel core;
    BS-41 - armor-piercing incendiary projectile with a ceramic-metal core.

    As for the firing range of 2000 m. For the PTRD-41, this regime was not considered, since the tasks were different, it was supposed to shoot according to the technique, including aircraft, and armored vehicles, including light and medium tanks, in addition, an open sight for such a firing range will not work.
    But in LDNR there is experience using the PTRD-41 precisely as a sniper weapon, and is quite successful.
    So the current T-Rex can be considered as tuning a well-proven technical solution in 1941.
  34. +1
    25 November 2019 10: 20
    For some reason, the stubborn feeling that these are converted "PTRD" barrels for a modern look does not leave.)
    1. 0
      25 November 2019 16: 47
      It is unlikely that many ATGMs have reached our time, but still there are even more KPVs and KPV-ts, they have the same caliber, but the barrels are more modern, given the fact that recently armored troop-carriers have been massively re-equipped everywhere with KPV to thirty, rather total and raw materials from there.
  35. +2
    25 November 2019 14: 34
    Quote: Vadim237
    For this, there are already computer sights with wind sensors and a range finder - there will be no accidents, there will be a hit, even at a distance of 3 kilometers.

    Why does Ukraine need such a rifle? Another Maidan to shoot? Or your compatriots in the East? Understand better with the Galician gopota. But for this, you can get by with more modest weapons.
    1. 0
      25 November 2019 19: 48
      Most likely, the first parties will get to Azov and other creatures - who and what they will shoot from it is easy to guess.
  36. 0
    26 November 2019 17: 39
    Ukraine will export this weapon