Russian machine gun AL-12 in the West was called "horror on the battlefield"

American edition The National Interest called the new variation of the Russian large-caliber assault machine ASH-12 "horror on the battlefield," while praising it.

The author of the article published on the pages of the publication notes that the Russian large-caliber assault machine ASH-12 was specifically designed for special forces of the FSB of the Russian Federation. It is used in cases where the range of the shot does not matter, i.e. is an "weapons melee. "

Under this machine, the author writes, a special large-caliber cartridge 12,7 × 55 mm SC-130 was developed, with which you can "instantly neutralize the target", which allows you to "avoid lengthy shootings." Also noteworthy is the fact that this cartridge can use three types of bullets for various situations: armor-piercing with a protruding core, shell and two-bullet with tandem placement of bullets. This emphasizes the tactical versatility of the weapon.

Forget the AK-47 ... It's a new horror on the battlefield

- the author of the article declares.

ASH-12 (SHAK-12) - a large-caliber assault machine for close combat, created according to the layout scheme of bullpup. The weapon is equipped with Picatinny rails for mounting sights. It was developed at TsKIB SOO (a division of the Tula Instrument Design Bureau - KBP) by order of the FSB of Russia, and was adopted by the FSB special forces in the 2011 year.

We add on our own that this is the second article of the same author, dedicated to the Russian automatic machine ASH-12. The first also appeared in The National Interest this spring.

Comments

[Teberii]

Americans really need such a machine, they will copy it like AK again and will push it to the domestic market. And an article is needed as an advertisement.

[Cut Samshitov]

Quote: Teberii

Americans really need such a machine, they will copy it like AK again and will push it to the domestic market. And an article is needed as an advertisement.

First, they will announce the next sanctions for the development of "inhumane weapons".

[YOUR]

This machine is not for the battlefield, it is a weapon of specialists. In very limited quantities. And as for inhumane weapons, let the police use expansive bullets.

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: YOUR

as for inhumane weapons, let the police use expansive bullets.

In general, this is a completely reasonable decision, minimal return and, therefore, accurate automatic fire, maximum damage to the enemy, which means a high stopping effect.
Or maybe you are confused by what is prohibited in the army, but used in the police? So here it’s just the same logical, it is forbidden in the army because of poor accuracy (a feature of all doom dumas), and the police are allowed because of the stopping effect, and there are places where you can’t do without them at all for example in airplanes, but the main thing: the police shoot if and only if there is no other choice already no. That is, I explain, first you ask with your voice, then with a warning, then with your limbs (if the distance allows), and only then with defeat, if you need to stop and capture without harming, that is, tasers, in all other cases the detainee is to blame.

[YOUR]

Nothing bothers me. Let them use anything against themselves against their citizens. But they do not teach others how to live in a similar situation.

[Vlad.by]

So they apply. First they shoot, and then they ask ...
With ASh12 you have to shoot less.

[YOUR]

Do not have to. This is our weapon the United States does not have and never will.

[Recon]

then on the limbs

As if a limb from this machine would not tear off a limb

[ProkletyiPirat]

Quote: Recon

As if a limb from this machine would not tear off a limb

Well, in fact, a criminal with a severed limb will not run away and will not strike back, so such "inhumanity" is reasonable, even if the boss is torn apart and blown to the floor of the apartment, it will be "collateral damage in the prevention of crime" ...
In fact, the police did not give weapons to shoot and detain, but to prevent criminals from even thinking in disobedience and God forbid an attack on a law enforcement officer.

[Recon]

I completely agree, and besides, ordinary trunks will never receive such trunks.

[tatarin1972]

I don’t know about the ammunition for this product, but 12,7 × 108 when it gets hit, the body breaks completely.

[provergatel]

Your sequence of actions is not about the American police. They prefer to discard all unnecessary tinsel and start immediately from the last point - shooting to kill.

[ProkletyiPirat]

There is no need to demonize the local police, they only have distortions in some states where there are too many weapons and too many ghettos, in the rest of the USA as well as in our country.
And in any case, a citizen must to fulfill all the requirements of the police without any show off or body movements.

[provergatel]

So that's the point. That there is a mass of video recordings, where no one dares to the brave cops, there are several of them, and there is only one detainee, and at the output there is the corpse of the detainee, in which a pair of clips.

[ProkletyiPirat]

You take these videos and make the layout on the map of the USA with their states and cities, questions will disappear by themselves ... This is if you objectively compare.

Well, or you can continue to listen to propaganda ravings that are pro-American that anti-American ...

[provergatel]

Again! I'm talking about the warm, you're talking about the green.

I’m not talking about WHERE people are felled right and left, but WHY.

https: // cont.ws / @ sergal / 315350

Here (to remove the gaps) there is a very good analysis of the reasons for this hysterical shooting at unarmed and not currently resisting the late, oncology writer Andrei Cruz. A man was a big fan of everything that shoots, he knew how to and loved. He wandered around the world, lived a lot where, including in the USA. He got married and a donkey somewhere in South America, holding a gun shop with his wife. Well, I wrote well, there will be time, I highly recommend it. And here he with knowledge of the realities there parses why the annual statistics of such causelessly killed people are constantly growing in the USA.

[Vanek]

Quote: Sawing Boxwood

First, they will announce the next sanctions for the development of "inhumane weapons".

Everything in the fluff itself was snout.

That's the whole answer.

[Elephant]

Quote: Teberii

Americans really need such a machine

I do not think that the Americans really need such a machine. They already have in the military units well proven XM25 for close combat. And for us, this machine is a good option!

[Dmitry Donskoy]

Yes, they have a campaign like automatic dresses like a socialite lioness dresses. For all occasions

[Lopatov]

Quote: Elephant

They have in the military units

And what has "military units" to do with it?
The lion's share of the American "shooter" belongs to the private owner, not the security forces.

[Genry]

Quote: Elephant

They already have in the military units well proven XM25 for close combat.

Compare a grenade launcher with a gun?
And where did he prove himself if he wasn’t released?

[Doliva63]

Quote: Elephant

Quote: Teberii

Americans really need such a machine

I do not think that the Americans really need such a machine. They already have in the military units well proven XM25 for close combat. And for us, this machine is a good option!

With your permission, I’ll tweak it a bit: in the military units, he does not need us at all.

[cost]

The correct name is not ASH12, but SHAK 12

Technical characteristics of the large-caliber assault rifle SHAK-12
Caliber: 12,7 × 55 mm
Weapon length: 1020 mm
Barrel Length: -
Weight without cartridges: 4,5 kg
Aim range: 200 m
Muzzle velocity, m / s: -
Rate of Fire: 600 fps. / Min.
Magazine capacity: 10 or 20 rounds

[madrobot]

It is possible that the letters were interchanged so that there would be no associations with the ShVAK cannon line. You understand that, theoretically, ShVAK can also be read as "automatic large-caliber assault rifle." In general, I do not know what the developers are guided by. . We all know that any weapon has an index that does not allow ambiguous readings.

[Ironcity]

The partners have already played enough with similar calibers, see .458SOCOM, .50 Beowulf. PMCs with security functions had some interest. When you need to quickly stop the car breaking through the gearbox, and there is no 50 cal gun at hand. CSKA were not inspired.

[Genry]

Quote: Ironcity

When you need to quickly stop the car breaking through the gearbox, and there is no 50 cal gun at hand. CSKA were not inspired.

And where does the gearbox, car and machine gun 50kal ...
This machine is a continuation of the silent shaft / screw cutter concept. Just with a more powerful cartridge.
Ideal for indoor battles and sabotage operations.

[Ironcity]

And where does the gearbox, car and machine gun 50kal ...
This machine is a continuation of the silent shaft / screw cutter concept. Just with a more powerful cartridge.

No. 9x39 is a successful attempt to make the subsonic cartridge as productive as possible. And in SHAK, emphasis is on stopping action. Conceptually very close to .50 Beowulf and peers. So they were praised by private traders for their high stopping effect and the ability to quickly reach the target behind an obstacle such as automobile glass or a door. A heavy bullet does not deflect upon penetration, as is sometimes the case with standard low-pulse 5,56.t

Ideal for indoor battles and sabotage operations.

Are you seriously? 5 kilogram poker according to the scheme one-sided bullpup for rooms? And if you need to lean out from around the corner to the left, what will we do, get out with the whole body? The layout does not allow shooting from the left shoulder. No, there are better samples.

[Siberia 75]

Americans from The National Interest praise, we must carefully look at what is wrong with the AS-12.

[Deck]

The Supervisory Board of The National Interest includes Alexei Pushkov, a member of the Russian State Duma. Probably need to ask him

[Deck]

Why is the ASh-12 better than the Benelli M4 (M1014)? The range of ammunition at Benelli is wider, reliable automation, stainless materials in the design.

[Genry]

Quote: Deck

Why is the ASh-12 better than the Benelli M4 (M1014)?

Why did they suddenly begin to compare armor-piercing rifles with a smooth-bore shotgun?

[Gerneton]

Quote: Teberii

Americans really need such a machine, they will again copy like AK and will push to the domestic market

there is such a choice of various weapons and body kit that the next pepelats of unknown quality except that collectors can be interested.

[Zeev Zeev]

Any semi-automatic shotgun at close range will neutralize even an enemy protected by body armor with no less efficiency, only it costs several times less and cartridges for it can be bought at any hunting store.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

neutralizes even the enemy protected by body armor

He will not break the armor.

cartridges for it can be bought at any hunting store.

Armor-piercing, yeah.

[Fibrizio]

Steel completely. + no one bothers to charge the caliber. But his point is certainly not that.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Fibrizio

Steel completely. + no one bothers to charge the caliber.

Bullshit - small speed, large cross-sectional area.

[Fibrizio]

And get the 300th with broken ribs. There is little joy.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Fibrizio

And get the 300th with broken ribs.

This is if bronik without plates.

[Fibrizio]

Another question is that I do not see the point of 12 cal in the army. I dragged a duck and more than 200 rounds in a backpack. The pleasure is so-so. And for the fighting is simply impossible. + volume.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Fibrizio

Another question is that I do not see the point of 12 cal in the army.

This is for anti-terror units and all kinds of attack aircraft. They sometimes need to shoot everyone very quickly with a guarantee so that the hostages do not have time to bang or something else to get rid of.

[Simargl]

Quote: Fibrizio

Another question is that I do not see the point of 12 cal in the army.

Well, do not carry the same TOZ-123 ...
For the army and the police, in any case, we need a caliber different from civilian. That civilian special ammunition is not trying to use. and then you can come up with a cumulative ....

[Zeev Zeev]

This is if the armor of the 4th level, stopping the bullet from the AK point blank. Knocked down and knocked down.

[Vlad.by]

And if with plates - then most likely the 300th with broken insides and, possibly, broken cervical vertebrae.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Vlad.by

it’s most likely the 300th with broken insides and possibly broken cervical vertebrae.

Yes, there will be nothing - kinetic energy will either be spent on the destruction of the plate, or distributed over its entire area.

[Vlad.by]

and after distribution? From 200 meters! The impulse will be healthy, if it does not break, it will throw the meter 2 by 3.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Vlad.by

From 200 meters!

From a gun?

[Genry]

Quote: Vlad.by

From 200 meters! The impulse will be healthy, if it does not break, it will throw the meter 2 by 3.

The same impulse acts on the arrow. Why doesn’t it fly off by 2-3 meters?

[Incvizitor]

From 200 meters!

for 12 cal, the maximum target range of 100 m is considered to be a bullet, a fraction of 50, this is what any hunter will say in weapons, of course I had a case when I fired at a duck and the fraction of fishermen at 400 m fell but this is complete nonsense.

[dokusib]

In the jug, no plates will save.

[Zeev Zeev]

A shotgun should not break through the armor. Jacques will knock out the spirit of any person and for five minutes he will be incapacitated from the word at all. And with buckshot he’ll make holes too

[Winnie76]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

A shotgun should not break through the armor. Jacques will knock out the spirit of any person and for five minutes he will be incapacitated from the word at all.

Why knock the spirit out of a terrorist. And we do not have the death penalty. Push tight

[Zeev Zeev]

I want to fill up tight, shoot the Bosko. At short distances, this is not a problem.

[Winnie76]

It’s more difficult to get into the head, every 10 times.

[Zeev Zeev]

At a distance of up to 50 meters for a trained fighter does not get into the head?

[Kochegarkin]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

At a distance of up to 50 meters for a trained fighter does not get into the head?

wow what a specialist in fire training in confined spaces ...
You, my friend, have long shot at the shooting range from something heavy?
how much time does it take you to aim from the PM?
and how much do you knock out for high-speed shooting?
actually shooting at a fast pace at any distance is a very poor thing

[Zeev Zeev]

I was in the shooting range a month and a half ago, firing a Jeriho 941 pistol, shooting at speed. There were no numbers on the targets, so I don't know how many I knocked out, but out of 50 rounds, about 40 fit into a plate-sized piece of a target.
But this is not important, since we are not talking about a pistol, but about long-barreled weapons, the accuracy of which is much higher. And users of these weapons shoot more often than once every six months (unlike me).

[Winnie76]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

At a distance of up to 50 meters for a trained fighter does not get into the head?

Probably for a trained fighter to get into the body is still easier than in the head. Following your logic - why wear bulletproof vests in the building at all, because the enemies will aim at the head

[Zeev Zeev]

We’re talking about special forces, they must learn to shoot in the head. Or, on suicide bombers with a martyr’s belt, will they also beat on the carcass?

[mmaxx]

When it comes to real shooting, the very best shooters begin to smear. Few people have enough nerves to hit the head.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Winnie76

Quote: Zeev Zeev

At a distance of up to 50 meters for a trained fighter does not get into the head?

Probably for a trained fighter to get into the body is still easier than in the head. Following your logic - why wear bulletproof vests in the building at all, because the enemies will aim at the head

It's just that a trained soldier does not shoot "in the torso" - it is possible to punch right through, and the enemy will not lose combat effectiveness (that is, it is necessary to shoot selectively), and it may be on him and an armor. And yes, aiming offhand at the head is easier than at the heart, for example.

[Simargl]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

At a distance of up to 50 meters for a trained fighter does not get into the head?

Who will keep it?

[Zeev Zeev]

And who will hold if you shoot in the body?

[Simargl]

So the carcass is 10 times larger in area and closer to the center of gravity - less mobile.

[Zeev Zeev]

It is clear that it’s easier to get into the carcass. Here we are talking about the fact that a person wants to fill up immediately. Control is not for him, to take prisoner to talk too.

[Simargl]

TOZ-123 and grenades ...

[Doliva63]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

It is clear that it’s easier to get into the carcass. Here we are talking about the fact that a person wants to fill up immediately. Control is not for him, to take prisoner to talk too.

About the head, I agree in terms of the fact that this is correct, but with 50m. you get excited when it comes to the gun. With an assault rifle, yes, almost any 50m rookie got into a cabbage swing

[Zeev Zeev]

And I did not talk about the gun. At 50 meters, you need to heal the heads for a long and tedious time, 10-15 seconds minimum. And this is for a very good shooter.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

And I did not talk about the gun. At 50 meters, you need to heal the heads for a long and tedious time, 10-15 seconds minimum. And this is for a very good shooter.

The machine gun has a thin front sight, a head of cabbage is clearly visible, what is there to target? A 150-meter chest target had a black circle, like, 20 cm, what's the difference?

[Zeev Zeev]

And you have only one retention point in the gun. In contrast to the machine, where there are five

[Doliva63]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

And you have only one retention point in the gun. In contrast to the machine, where there are five

Engaged in pistol shooting, both in the standard version and in the sport, I did not bother with this. Looks like the techniques are different.

[Zeev Zeev]

Maybe. We are taught to shoot differently.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Maybe. We are taught to shoot differently.

But do you learn from the right hand to the left? Well, as we were taught I think that the Soviet school, that is sports, that military, was excellent. Right now, I don’t know and don’t want to. I'm not going to fight for the pipe.

[Zeev Zeev]

Change hands? I have not met, maybe where they teach.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Change hands? I have not met, maybe where they teach.

Think no good? After all, a gun is an extreme option when the cartridges are out or wounded in the arm. The ability to shoot from the left in this case does not hurt. But we fired from the left and with other weapons. It stinks, however, right in the nose and the sleeves in front of my eyes fly out. But, again, it is useful if you look at it. And watch when shooting with both eyes. In general, the military is a difficult profession

[Zeev Zeev]

I didn't have a pistol in the army. I worked in security for quite a long time. We only had a short barrel. Although I’m lying, they also gave an "ultrasound".

[Doliva63]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

I didn't have a pistol in the army. I worked in security for quite a long time. We only had a short barrel. Although I’m lying, they also gave an "ultrasound".

And we had a pistol for every sergeant (from junior to senior) and every "senior soldier", so to speak. And for ensigns and officers - as many as 2 at once And then he worked as a guard - after the army, this is the simplest solution. The main weapons were pistols. Well, and the "long trunk" in the face of "Jaguar"

[Incvizitor]

A terrorist at a distance of up to 50 meters, who will not be able to heal a fighter’s head, will shoot much faster offhand and while you are aiming his head, you will grab a bullet.

[Simargl]

Quote: Winnie76

It’s more difficult to get into the head, every 10 times.

Shot with buckshot ... 6-9 pieces per charge ...

[Gray brother]

Quote: Simargl

Shot with buckshot ... 6-9 pieces per charge ...

It’s easier to immediately throw a grenade into the room. Fuck, with them, with the hostages.

[Incvizitor]

Yes, such people fly in five special forces and begin to peel with buckshot in a closed room with hostages ...

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

A shotgun should not break through the armor. Jacques will knock out the spirit of any person and for five minutes he will be incapacitated from the word at all. And with buckshot he’ll make holes too

And if with a club on the head, then generally prepare a coffin and a wake!

[Deck]

Armor-piercing, yeah.

Yeah. Do you like English? https://www.firequest.com/G12-001.html - $ 125 and enjoy
There is also armor-piercing incendiary.

[Dym71]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Any semi-automatic shotgun at close range neutralizes even an enemy protected by body armor with no less efficiency

Well, how is it, because you probably came across these lines:

M 16 - The grenade launcher is heavy, but it can "put" a grenade in the window at a distance of 200 meters.
AK 47 - If anything, the grenade from the grenade launcher can be thrown out of the window with your hand.
Mosin Rifle - Window Grenade? Hit through the wall, a bullet pierces the brickwork of a meter thick!

[Zeev Zeev]

These lines met. The grenade launcher M-203 weighs as much as the GP-30, but more precisely, it is more convenient and it can be easily not only charged, but also discharged. And you can get into the window from it from 300 meters.
AK-47? I did not see him with a grenade launcher.
Mosin rifle? No, a meter wall will not break. Even two bricks will not break.

[Dym71]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Even two bricks will not break.

Wolf (teeth clicked ), do not carp, this is a hyperbole - a means of artistic depiction, based on deliberate exaggeration in order to enhance expressiveness and emphasize the said thoughts.

[Zeev Zeev]

I know what "hyperbole" is.

[Incvizitor]

And how successfully does a shotgun pierce bulletproof vests? And can he hit a target at 200 meters? And what is the difference between the price and the shotgun?

[Tank hard]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Any semi-automatic shotgun at close range will neutralize even an enemy protected by body armor with no less efficiency, only it costs several times less and cartridges for it can be bought at any hunting store.

You will not prove anything to "experts" like "gray brothers", but here is a small video to support your opinion, at the same time someone will be able to see how a shotgun is underestimated, and yes, not necessarily a semi-automatic, there is an opinion that the pump will be enough. each weapon has its own niche, the main thing is to be able to use it correctly.

[Dikson]

Such a rhinoceros and a sight is not needed .. And if you attach a grenade launcher .. then generally put out the light ...

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Dikson

And if you attach a gimbal .. then generally put out the light ...

By order:

Option ASh-12 with an under-barrel grenade launcher and PBS.

[g1washntwn]

So much for the answer: 5,56 or 7,62 ...

[iConst]

Horror flying on the wings of the night. Oh, this NI.

[Fibrizio]

The return is monstrous, only single sighting. The flame arrestor there is not just like that, with such a barrel length - there is a flamethrower, about 5 meters sheaf will be peeling. Who shot from short versions of AK, especially rifle cartridges, is in the know.
Yes, and about the shotguns it’s rightly noted that buckshot or 40g bullet may not penetrate the bulletproof vest, but it will definitely cost you to fight.
Yes, and in close combat there is a tendency to rate of fire, no? Even in the Second World War, our PPSh was extremely successful. He jumped into the room / trench, clamped the descent and walked from wall to wall. All get their own.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Fibrizio

only solitary aiming.

[Fibrizio]

As an advantage, I see that a bullet will overcome some obstacles. It is clear that this is not DShK / KORD and its analogues, there are almost no walls for them, maybe this one will also be sewn. But a limited store. I don’t know, it’s very special.
Like an army pistol, cool, but there are no tasks for him.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Fibrizio

Like an army

This is not for the army, but for those who have tasks.

[Fibrizio]

Let's speculate. Where can he be better than a standard assault rifle at short range (as stated)?
I just can't think of it. If you blow a dozen bursts of 223 or ours along the body, the effect will be no worse.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Fibrizio

Where can he be better than a standard assault rifle at short range (as stated)?

Everywhere. Due to stopping action and fatal injuries. Short fire contact with a clear outcome.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Gray Brother

Quote: Fibrizio

Where can he be better than a standard assault rifle at short range (as stated)?

Everywhere. Due to stopping action and fatal injuries. Short fire contact with a clear outcome.

Spherical Horse Vacuum Response

[lucul]

Let's speculate. Where can he be better than a standard assault rifle at short range (as stated)?
I just can't think of it. If you blow a dozen bursts of 223 or ours along the body, the effect will be no worse.

You just don’t understand what you are talking about.
Why did this ASh-12 assault rifle appear?
Special order of the FSB.
Why special order? Yes, because the fighting showed that the barmaley, under a horse dose of morphine, remained capable even if it was point blank, they landed a full horn from AK.
ASH-12 is guaranteed to instantly turn off the enemy, even under drugs drenched to the ears.

[Doliva63]

Quote: lucul

Let's speculate. Where can he be better than a standard assault rifle at short range (as stated)?
I just can't think of it. If you blow a dozen bursts of 223 or ours along the body, the effect will be no worse.

You just don’t understand what you are talking about.
Why did this ASh-12 assault rifle appear?
Special order of the FSB.
Why special order? Yes, because the fighting showed that the barmaley, under a horse dose of morphine, remained capable even if it was point blank, they landed a full horn from AK.
ASH-12 is guaranteed to instantly turn off the enemy, even under drugs drenched to the ears.

If it tears to shreds, then yes.

[Dym71]

At 2:50, you can see how the Fingal leading under his eye shot

[Romka47]

He jumped into the room / trench, clamped the descent and walked from wall to wall. All get their own.
Together with the hostages
Yes, and about shotguns it’s rightly noted that a buckshot or a 40g bullet may not penetrate a bulletproof vest, but it’s just a little fun to fight
if the person is "fresh", and if he overeats or is chipped in what? there were cases without hands and without a jaw continued to fight for a short time, but here the meaning is that after hitting it will unwind so that even if "it" survives, it will not be able to move, because the muscles flew off the bones and tendons

[iConst]

Quote: Fibrizio

Who shot short AK versions, especially rifle cartridges

Am I missing something?

[hohkn]

Quote: Fibrizio

Who shot from short versions of AK, especially rifle cartridges, is in the know.

What?
How to put 7,62x54 into the store for 7,62x39. And will it enter the chamber?

[The leader of the Redskins]

Previously, this source of American origin was increasingly criticized for the fact that it incorrectly provides information about Russian weapons. And as the praise sounded, so the commentators somehow keep quiet about the incompetence of the pit experts!)))

[Berkut24]

Everything that is written with the words "instantly", "horror", etc. - just fiction. Figures, tests, videos for clarity - that's what you need. The author did not hold the product in his hands, did not compare it with something else, and has no personal impressions.
Although, probably, he has some kind of writing income from this attempt to scare someone.

[Romka47]

Even the bullets do not ricochet and hammer through the walls, sort of.

[Professor]

American edition of The National Interest ...

I did not read further. This edition is as "American" as Russia Today is about Russia Today.

[Sarduor]

What is a two-bullet tandem bullet? Why is it needed?

[iConst]

Quote: Sarduor

What is a two-bullet tandem bullet? Why is it needed?

This is when one bullet is partially in the pope of another. When departing, they are separated ...
It is believed that the stopping effect of a double bullet is higher with comparable total masses.

In NATO, in the 70s, they dabbled with tandem bullets, while the latter had a beveled end, which took the bullet away from the aiming point, and the first was accurate. Thus, it was supposed to increase the likelihood of hitting a moving target or inaccurate aiming. Those. the second - at random.

[abrakadabre]

What is a two-bullet tandem bullet? Why is it needed?

Perhaps this is a type of booklet.

[Chaldon48]

After the shoot-out, coi-kago can only be identified by DNA.

[Konstantin Shevchenko]

"Bumblebee" will be more interesting for close combat than a machine gun.

[abrakadabre]

"Bumblebee" will be more interesting for close combat than a machine gun.

Then TOS-1 Buratino or "Serpent Gorynych". Why waste time on trifles. Tamerlane approves.

As one well-known inquisitor used to say in the Albigensian campaign: "Kill everyone. The Almighty will separate his own from the strangers."

[Konstantin Shevchenko]

Then TOS-1 Buratino or "Serpent Gorynych"

no, this is no longer close-range assault combat. If there are no hostages, the "bumblebee" is a fairly versatile means with minimal risk and the bulletproof vest "bumblebee" is not an obstacle. It is informative about the Albigon campaign.

[Radical]

... shell

It will be correct - "shell". There are also semi-shell (bullets).

[Romka47]

semi-shell

[Pavel57]

Such a caliber will even knock down single.

[Black Colonel]

Serious machine! Any hit is lethal.

[Evil 55]

Everything is good, and the recoil is relatively compensated, and the PBS is built in .. only the eyes are very watery from the gunpowder and the store is small ..

[Dmitry Zadorozhniy]

In the head, in the limbs ... They always shoot at the "center of mass" that is, at the body. So that the body under the coke, or something else would not rage, for anti-terror groups and made a mallet. Americans, with their 45s, do not always stop their junkies from the first shot.

[serge siberian]

In 1985, late autumn, special. from Art.tech of the armament of the part where I had to serve, I said: they say there were cases, a bullet with AK-74, passing near the liver, made jelly from the liver in a sachet. I imagine that a bullet of this caliber, passing near the heart, will simply crush the last .
They ordered the FSB for special units, well, a very sensible thing.

[Basarev]

Is it possible to make a small analogue for the standard five forty-fifth cartridge?