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Long-range protests. How will the color revolution in Iran come to Russia?

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Well, you, no State Department!



The protests in Hong Kong, which in China is called the administrative district of Hong Kong, began, if I remember correctly, five years ago, in the distant 2014 year. The “Revolution of Umbrellas” and this is all exotic, with southeastern features, went from there and appeared just then. Then the first versions of what was happening appeared: from the revenge of the British special services for the oppression of British companies to the quite expected (and most likely, it should be noted) version of the "hand of the State Department."

Of course, from the latter, many fighters with conspiracy therapies immediately reduced cheekbones. Well, as much as possible, really ?! Just a little, immediately the State Department - you might think that people and without Americans have nothing to protest about.

Frankly, there is something to protest about. True, by strange coincidence, the most active protests are now taking place in Hong Kong, Iran and Chile. And two of the three points are very beneficial for the United States precisely in terms of maintaining protest activity. But this, of course, is just a coincidence - the Americans are out of business, all coincidences are random, the stunts were performed by professional stuntmen ...

In fact, all current protests have a definite reason. In Chile, this is an increase in metro fares, in Iran, an increase in gas prices, and in Hong Kong, protests are triggered by some political decisions by the autonomy authorities. In particular, the reason for the current protests was the decision to ban the protesting masks covering the face, and the pending adoption of amendments to local legislation allowing the deportation of those arrested to countries with which there is no corresponding agreement. Including, as you might guess, this also concerned the possible deportation of Hong Kong residents to China. Strictly speaking, the absence of such a measure is an interesting legal case, since it is impossible to transfer those arrested within the framework of one country, but such are the ways of unification under the slogan "One country - two systems."

They added fuel. More expensive ...


Although this is probably a somewhat superficial look at what is happening. For example, in Hong Kong, one of the main irritants is just the sky-high housing price. Young families and students can’t afford not just buying, but even renting a more or less decent apartment, comparable to the usual Russian “kopeck piece”. As a result, they have to huddle in apartments, comparable in size to the kitchen in our usual "Khrushchev". Retractable transformable furniture allows you to create some semblance of comfort, but you must admit that sleeping when you have a washbasin over your head and a toilet has been disguised at your feet is a rather dubious pleasure.


In Iran, the reason for the protests was the increase in gas prices. Moreover, the increase is sharp, shock. So, if you choose a limit of 60 liters per month, then you have to buy gasoline three times more expensive (an increase of 200%) than before. It should be remembered that the price of gasoline was previously subsidized in Iran and one of the lowest in the world. For example, as of 2018, gas to Iranians was six times cheaper than Russians, eight times cheaper than Chinese, and 10-12 cheaper than citizens of most EU countries.

Probably, the desire of the Iranian government to stop the "freebie" from the point of view of the economy is quite rational. But the country's population was clearly not ready for this. Especially when you consider that the standard of living in Iran is also far from European. As a result, not just protests broke out in the country, but real unrest, the victims of which were already citizens, police, and many gas stations, other commercial and state institutions.

It got to the point that a special order of the Iranian government imposed very strict restrictions on Internet access in the country, the activities of providers were taken under very tight control, and any attempts to organize protests through social networks and instant messengers were either impossible or harshly suppressed by the authorities. Nevertheless, the situation in the country, to put it mildly, is restless, and some even talk about a possible “color revolution” in Tehran.

Yes, you need to be objective: no one forced Tehran’s authorities to raise fuel prices and provoke unrest right now. Just like no one forced the Hong Kong authorities to throw firewood into the fire of barely dying unrest, making or intending to make decisions that were very controversial from a certain point of view. Nevertheless, one should not discount the efforts of our precious “partners” who have long and tirelessly hit the sore points: Iran, for example, is already experiencing the third wave of popular protests after the first in 2011 and the second in 2017-2018. And every time the Americans were partly the direct culprits of the actions: sanctions, incitement in social networks, provocations, and partly provided their political cover, making various decisions related to the support of protesters.

America cares


They do the same thing now. For example, the US Senate has adopted a number of resolutions relating to Hong Kong. In particular, the US Department of State is now obliged to report annually to lawmakers on whether Hong Kong really maintains its autonomy. In the event that representatives of the State Department consider otherwise, it could be a question of sanctions against China itself or the termination of the most favored nation status in trade for Hong Kong. In this case, it will at least be considered economically dependent on China, and general rules for trade with the United States will apply to goods and services from the former British colony. And this, we note, is the mildest, most gentle version of the development of events.

Decisions are also made that delimit the export of small arms to China. weapons, police equipment, chemical means of control of demonstrators and the like of "dual-use" goods. In principle, the effectiveness of such a solution is very doubtful, because the Chinese are quite able to produce all this themselves. But here we must pay tribute to American lawmakers - the system has been working this way for many decades, and in this case is not going to deviate from the established rules. In addition, sanctions have the opposite direction - it will now be much more difficult for the Chinese to export similar goods to the United States, and companies and factories found to have been involved in the production of means to disperse demonstrations may receive personal and very serious sanctions.

China, of course, has already recognized such legislative activity of the Americans as interference in its internal affairs. The authorities of the Hong Kong Autonomous Region took a similar position. But this is unlikely to annoy the American senators, who see this as not only a way to support the protesters, but also an excellent opportunity to annoy Trump and his more than once announced “big deal” with China. It is clear that in such an environment it will be very difficult, if possible at all, to conclude it.

Everything with Iran is much more transparent: Washington does not hide its hostility towards this state, and so many sanctions have been imposed against Tehran that it’s even hard to say what else can be invented there. But they speak of their support for the protesters in the United States as a matter of course, and it would be strange if the American intelligence services did not react at all to what was happening.

Separate and ... look at both?


Now a little about what to expect Russia. And here, first of all, we note that, for some strange coincidence, it so far does without large-scale protests. It is all the more strange that it is Russia and its political elite that look most vulnerable to attack, the weakest and most vulnerable. But let's not pretend that we don’t understand anything - yes, almost at 99%, this is the merit of the Russian special services. The opposition in the country is fragmented, its most radical parts are not just divided, but they hate each other fiercely, so you can hardly be afraid that it will act as a united front. Rather, one can assume the opposite: the “left” wall will become behind the Kremlin if the country is smelled by the real threat of liberal revenge. In turn, supporters of Navalny and the liberal idea will also conclude a truce at any time with the Kremlin, just to prevent the new "Bolsheviks" from coming to power.

On the other hand, the opposition itself has managed to compromise itself quite strongly. Thieves demanding the overthrow of other thieves are just as ridiculous as the "revolutionaries" who make their candidate for the presidency quite bourgeois, in their own terminology. And this separation, on the one hand, is already so deep, and on the other hand, how masterfully done, it remains only to pay tribute to the guys in gray jackets - you know, you can!

Therefore, despite all the nonsense committed recently by our "economists", the positions of power are still quite strong. And the Kremlin still has a lot of resources to strengthen its positions - it is enough to simply disperse the government in order to soar again in the wake of popular adoration. But there’s still “cloachena” ... Oh, excuse me, there is still the Higher School of Economics, there are a lot of “oligarchs” who, due to some misunderstanding, are still walking free.

In general, there would be a desire, and it is possible to make 86% and 96% ...

The position of China also looks quite strong. Yes, the unrest may continue for a long time, but it is obvious that the Western special services still have not enough resources to overturn the power of the CCP. Indeed, even neighboring Macau, which in a sense is Hong Kong’s political counterpart, has so far failed to raise protests, what can we say about the country's internal provinces.

But for Iran, to be honest, alarming. He is economically not so strong, and he does not possess such sophisticated special services as Russia. Yes, he resisted the most serious external threats and even tries to play the role of a regional superpower, but ... But as we have had more than once the opportunity to see, the state’s internal weaknesses can be quite easily used to break it up. Moreover, often the reason for the next “revolution of guides” is not comparable with the scale of impending losses, nor with the political and economic consequences for the state.

But Archimedes did not say in vain: “Give me a fulcrum, and I will turn the Earth!” And in many ways he was right: there would be a fulcrum, and there would be leverage for our “partners” ...

That is why from here, from the south, we should expect a sudden and very painful blow for us. Because, if Tehran falls, then, inevitably, our “Central Asian monarchies” will fall. More precisely, some will fall, and some will just instantly overturn.

And then neither Russia with its “soft underbelly” nor China with its “bare back” will seem small ...
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  1. Svarog
    Svarog 21 November 2019 15: 16 New
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    that if Tehran falls, then, almost inevitably, our “Central Asian monarchies” fall. More precisely, some will fall, and some will just instantly overturn.

    Color revolutions, as a phenomenon are already outdated and the American strategy in this regard, is stalling .. All countries have already learned how to deal with this .. But if we assume that it will happen in Iran, then in this case the echo will scatter all over the world. .
    1. APES
      APES 21 November 2019 15: 24 New
      +13
      Color revolutions as a phenomenon are already outdated and

      This is not a phenomenon - this is technology and it works - a matter of time and resources
      yet in Iran it will happen

      The problem of Iran’s power is that in trying to maintain power, they are forced to “conserve” society, but in the long run this is not possible. Change is the law - everything flows, everything changes ....
      1. pin_code
        pin_code 22 November 2019 06: 31 New
        +6
        we also canned, the conclusion suggests itself ...
    2. St Petrov
      St Petrov 21 November 2019 15: 28 New
      +10
      Already all countries have learned to deal with this ..

      comments from parallel reality from the club of patriots-high-standard-of-life
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 21 November 2019 15: 31 New
        +3
        Quote: c-Petrov
        Already all countries have learned to deal with this ..

        comments from parallel reality from the club of patriots-high-standard-of-life

        I don’t know in which universe or planet you are living laughing But the attempts of color revolutions have been made more than once in both Russia and China .. The authorities have learned to cope with them and fight, which means there is an antidote .. or do you think that this is not so?
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 21 November 2019 15: 36 New
          -18
          in both Russia and China

          why clarification, you wrote about ALL COUNTRIES !! 111! 1

          and you don’t look up at us, because we have the Caucasus riot police and there the concentration of wafers in comparison with the whining audience is clearly less wassat And against the backdrop of jihadists - your snot deprived and starving pair of% rebels - do not look very terrifying, for special services of the Russian Federation
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 21 November 2019 15: 41 New
            +7
            Quote: c-Petrov
            why clarification, you wrote about ALL COUNTRIES !! 111! 1

            If there is an antidote, then Russia will help those countries that need it .. as an example, Venezuela, where our experts left, it smelled like fried ..
            Quote: c-Petrov
            and you don’t raise your head with us, because we have the Caucasus riot police

            very primitive conclusion, riot police are also WE .. Petrov)) or do you think that riot police are not citizens of Russia ..?
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 21 November 2019 15: 55 New
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              riot police are also WE..or do you think that riot police are not citizens of Russia ..?


              and chikatilo was a citizen of the Soviet Union, which other citizens caught. You deal with such cheap manipulations with the fragile public and with fans of MBH media, jellyfish, rain and others.

              Riot police are patriots who, for little satisfaction, risk their lives in the service of protecting the constitutional order. Oath won't sway their state. Svarog, you just don’t know her text, because you didn’t take it and you didn’t take an oath and you didn’t receive an allowance, you received only a salary.

              Riot police officers are WE. Let them work, brothers, and show every shushara its place.

              Only sovereign countries with a strong economy and competent leadership have a recipe for color revolution. Russia has a recipe, yes.
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 21 November 2019 16: 02 New
                +13
                Quote: c-Petrov
                Oath won't sway their state. Svarog, you just don’t know her text, because you didn’t accept and you didn’t receive allowance, but you received only your salary.

                Petrov, we have the country's leaders sworn more than once to different states .. and you are riot police ..
                Riot police officers are WE.

                I have a friend, a former fireman, retired .. sometimes we gather with his colleagues, they all work in the police now .. so they are also officers .. but they are not happy with the authorities .. and yes they served in Chechnya ..
              2. APES
                APES 21 November 2019 16: 19 New
                +15
                from the color revolution Russia has a recipe

                The authorities are not afraid of color revolutions, they are afraid of the people, and there may not be enough riot police and assembly on it .... There is also the Ministry of Emergency Situations - as a last resort. But.....
                And which is better: guided color revolution or popular riot ???? And will riot police, knowing the reason, harshly suppress their people? There were precedents when the local riot police refused - urgently sent from Moscow ....
                And the reasons, it seems to me, are a wagon and a small cart .....
                1. St Petrov
                  St Petrov 21 November 2019 16: 50 New
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                  Power is not afraid of color revolutions, it is afraid of the people


                  Andrei, the Kremlin is already in a panic and Putin is packing his bags (s)

                  And the reasons, it seems to me, are a carriage and a small cart ...


                  the main thing is that Khodorkovsky doesn’t get out of the car wassat otherwise I know you revolutionaries, put at the helm of the one whom foreign intelligence needs

                  1. APES
                    APES 21 November 2019 17: 02 New
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                    I know you revolutionaries

                    Fortunately, I have long since left all sorts of ideals behind, for example, yesterday I stopped believing in love - which I had been dreaming of all my life :))) now I'm sitting thumping - looking for the meaning of life :)))).
                    I just said my opinion.
                    On
                    Khodorkovsky
                    then such comrades and the like are not my comrades ....
                  2. at84432384
                    at84432384 21 November 2019 18: 01 New
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                    You may ask, but where should Putin pack his bags? They will put him there, and if he explodes here, they will simply hang him. His life is now tightly tied to the life of Russia. Not a full-time class of oligarchs, namely Russia. There is no choice.
                    1. New Year day
                      New Year day 21 November 2019 18: 39 New
                      +4
                      Quote: at84432384
                      where to pack Putin suitcases? They will put him there, and if he explodes here, they will simply hang him. His life is now tightly tied to the life of Russia.

                      But you are right. And this is his tragedy: it is not enemies who betray, but friends. The preservation of his power is a guarantee of his safety. Where to Russia!
                    2. at84432384
                      at84432384 21 November 2019 18: 40 New
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                      Works when editing the text "artificial intelligence". The last sentence of the second word removes “o”.
                      1. at84432384
                        at84432384 21 November 2019 18: 41 New
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                        Editing again ...
                    3. Doctor
                      Doctor 21 November 2019 22: 53 New
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                      You may ask, but where should Putin pack his bags?

                      China.
                      1. syndicalist
                        syndicalist 22 November 2019 07: 10 New
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                        China, he is only interested in power. It can still take forests at 10 rubles per hectare. But relations with the new Russia will have to be established anyway, and you can’t do without the extradition of the main criminal.
                  3. New Year day
                    New Year day 21 November 2019 18: 06 New
                    +9
                    Quote: c-Petrov
                    I know you revolutionaries


                    You studied at the university of Lenin? Obviously not, as you talk nonsense
                  4. APES
                    APES 21 November 2019 18: 59 New
                    +12
                    the Kremlin is already in a panic and

                    I will supplement my opinion on the vertical Power-People with an artistic example:
                    When Sharapov fell into the lair of the bandits, his former subordinate said: “Sharapov, do you know why I didn’t hand you over? But because you were sitting in the same trench with me because you didn’t eat your officer ration in tikhari, but shared with us . " which of the current powers will not surrender if they find themselves in a similar situation?
                2. Svarog
                  Svarog 21 November 2019 16: 50 New
                  +3
                  Quote: APES
                  from the color revolution Russia has a recipe

                  The authorities are not afraid of color revolutions, they are afraid of the people, and there may not be enough riot police and assembly on it .... There is also the Ministry of Emergency Situations - as a last resort. But.....
                  And which is better: guided color revolution or popular riot ???? And will riot police, knowing the reason, harshly suppress their people? There were precedents when the local riot police refused - urgently sent from Moscow ....
                  And the reasons, it seems to me, are a wagon and a small cart .....

                  I tried to convey this to Petrov .. You did better ..
              3. New Year day
                New Year day 21 November 2019 18: 44 New
                +15
                Quote: c-Petrov
                Only sovereign countries with a strong economy and competent leadership have a recipe for color revolution. Russia has a recipe, yes.

                Believe that we have all this? They made me laugh. Ingush riot police refused to beat their fellow tribesmen, here they are patriots.
              4. New Year day
                New Year day 21 November 2019 19: 08 New
                +13
                Quote: c-Petrov
                Riot police officers are WE.

                Thanks, thanks. But I am a sinful affair about Leninist works, the theory of the socialist revolution, the revolutionary situation laughing
                1. APES
                  APES 21 November 2019 19: 31 New
                  +10
                  revolutionary situation laughing

                  About this, already in state. They say to the Duma, and yesterday Putin set the task: to increase real incomes of citizens. We are waiting, and so:
                  The gap in incomes of Russians equaled the level of 1905 of the year
                  1. New Year day
                    New Year day 21 November 2019 19: 39 New
                    +7
                    Quote: APES
                    Putin set a goal yesterday: to increase real incomes of citizens.

                    he talked a lot
                    laughing
                  2. Catfish
                    Catfish 21 November 2019 20: 58 New
                    -10
                    We are waiting, and so:
                    The gap in incomes of Russians equaled the level of 1905 of the year


                    Well, wait, wait ... maybe you can wait.
                    You would still be a primitive communal system here for an example. laughing
                  3. Edmond dantes
                    Edmond dantes 22 November 2019 10: 19 New
                    +5
                    He in Irkutsk 3 times said to restore order. There, it’s not like the governor and the heads sat on him. So nothing will change.
              5. Catfish
                Catfish 21 November 2019 20: 55 New
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                Only sovereign countries with a strong economy and competent leadership have a recipe for color revolution. Russia has a recipe, yes.


                Do you happen to get excited about the economy?
                1. St Petrov
                  St Petrov 21 November 2019 22: 01 New
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                  Do you happen to get excited about the economy?


                  No. I think our government can put a satisfactory mark. I am satisfied with his work.

                  I see sanctions, I see how they try to arrange problems for my country in all directions, even with the sale of resources (!), What can I say about the purchase of the Opel plant.

                  And this poorly dancing Dima is more agile with household than with dancing. Because the economy is growing, enterprises are opening and nuclear plants with roads are being built. Under the eternal howl. Now they even set about recycling garbage and are building very modern and expensive waste incineration and processing plants (including our turbines), they began to build a fishing fleet, and factories and shipyards are loaded.

                  In general, work is ongoing. Under the moans and howls. And under grants) well, and the outskirts of course run into the light)

                  PS Do you know what was written on the forum when the military raised the salary from the conditional 12 to the current conditional 000?
                  What is this power doing so that there is no rebellion, that the elections will be held and everything will be canceled? I don’t know exactly how many years have passed, but at least since 2008 there has been a movement with increases in allowance and housing - and this vomit oozes and oozes. and there is no end to it.






                  1. Fraracol_2
                    Fraracol_2 22 November 2019 09: 15 New
                    +6
                    And we have a population, is it just the military?
          2. Horst78
            Horst78 21 November 2019 16: 23 New
            +5
            and with us you don’t raise your head, because we have riot police
            When law enforcement agencies mention this in my mind, I always remember the quote from Leonid Slovin “When They Shoot Us” - (the very last line) “Oh **** and you believe us only when they shoot us ...” I advise you to read.
          3. New Year day
            New Year day 21 November 2019 18: 04 New
            +13
            Quote: c-Petrov
            because we have the Caucasus riot police and there the concentration of wafers in comparison with the whining public, is clearly less And against the backdrop of jihadists - your snot deprived and starving a couple of% rebels - do not look very terrible, for special services of the Russian Federation

            Optimist you! I once also believed in the advanced detachment of the party, but he took it and managed it, and now he forges his grandmother and will be the first to explode into warm regions
            1. depressant
              depressant 21 November 2019 19: 07 New
              +15
              Oh, Petrov, Petrov ...
              Power does not pack suitcases - where are you to run from the feeder! Power swept in attempts to rectify the situation. Well, look what decisions the State Duma made. Direct government investment in development in the central depressed regions of Russia. Part of the debt of these regions on state loans, namely 5%, is allowed to invest on investments within the regions. To make sure that money from the state does not reach the regions by the end of the year, but from January 1 ... Is this a lot or a little, and how much is it?
              A drop in the sea and already late. And not the fact that money is not stolen - the tradition is established, nestlings.
              But it is necessary to criticize. Loud and evil. Practice has shown who flatter and shout “Urraaa !!!” the most, betrays the first and surprisingly turns out to be well adapted to new conditions. Ideologically by anyone.
              1. St Petrov
                St Petrov 21 November 2019 22: 13 New
                -9
                I read you, Lyudmila Yakovlevna. I even agree with something. But when they criticize a beer at the VO forum, I don’t know. What to call it. And alright with the civilians, boil into your sweetness (the question to the place of deployment is again, of course, why this particular site was chosen). And when carriers of epaulettes write this in the past or the present - then I begin to wonder
    3. Obi-Wan Kenobi
      Obi-Wan Kenobi 22 November 2019 06: 31 New
      +4
      How will the color revolution in Iran come to Russia?

      Nothing.
      The article resembles a topic for a dissertation:
      The effect of lunar attraction on the menstrual period of the sea urchin.
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 21 November 2019 15: 16 New
    +3
    God forbid we see a Russian riot. So meaningless and merciless ...
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 21 November 2019 15: 25 New
      +15
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      God forbid we see a Russian riot. So meaningless and merciless ...

      Riot can not be meaningless .. If the mass of people decided to riot, then this is the conscious choice of many ..
      I would say differently, God forbid that they would bring us to revolt .. Or God forbid, that those who rule the country would come to their senses ..
      1. syndicalist
        syndicalist 22 November 2019 07: 25 New
        +2
        Something I can’t imagine, so that thieves and liars suddenly come to their senses and from tomorrow - no, no.
    2. St Petrov
      St Petrov 21 November 2019 15: 28 New
      -22
      God forbid we see a Russian riot.

      Yes, there are actors who are just waiting for this. I would even say excited by the idea itself
      while I wrote - and so it surfaced
      If the mass of people decided on a riot, then this is the conscious choice of many ..

      wassat
      God forbid us to bring us to rebellion

      oh uhh horror, Svarog bring to rebellion - this is not this for you and not that. Svarog, something that they can’t get you out of balance, you have been patiently and calmly perceiving everything for many years.

      Well, how calm, your latent revolution is sluggishly flowing within the economic themes of this platform. Therefore, your threats are perceived in the same way as the threats of Ukrainians to show Kuzkin’s mother to the olegarchs
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        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 21 November 2019 16: 46 New
          -16
          And you Petrov all God's dew !!! they raised their retirement age - you cry right away with happiness and pray for an icon with grandfather Vova


          draw emoticons and bear it, Mykolay. Get in line with the wet and patient revolutionaries of the VO forum. The Hague will recoup on us, Kremlin boats, you yourself know, soon ...

          PS how many Ukrainians from this forum have protested against raising the retirement age in Ukraine and Belarusians in Belarus? wassat

          Putin raised it not only in Russia, but in all the countries surrounding it. wassat
          1. nikolai.kolya
            nikolai.kolya 21 November 2019 16: 53 New
            +8
            enduring is your privilege ... love for your homeland is not easy for you, through strength ... soldier
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 21 November 2019 16: 56 New
              -18
              my? endure? I vote for Putin, and I ugore with the patient here. don't you know the basics of logic? Try to comprehend and think about the meaning of the word "endure" and about those who "endure" - read here your messages and others - and understand who endures - and who has everything going according to plan.

              For me, here is a voting day - it's a holiday wassat I go and vote for Putin and I know that somewhere someone will whine and will endure further

              And so we have been living for many years in one country laughing Although I definitely don’t know from which country the writers are dreaming of a revolution. Although I think there are enough illnesses in my country

              1. nikolai.kolya
                nikolai.kolya 21 November 2019 17: 02 New
                +14
                voted for Putin, seriously ??? he wouldn’t have managed without your voice .... ridiculed to tears .... voted ....
                and in the elections to the State Duma who will you vote for? for Medvedev? good
                1. St Petrov
                  St Petrov 21 November 2019 17: 05 New
                  -14
                  Have you already found out which of us suffers and whines? smile
                  to tears

                  Do not cry, you are a man. Moreover, you can endure more than 20 years laughing
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                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 21 November 2019 21: 12 New
                      +8
                      A magnificent portrait, colleague! It looks like it’s just like a living one, you can don’t paint the badge. I understand that this is a personal friend of our Petrov? laughing
                      Tell me who your friend is ...
                      1. St Petrov
                        St Petrov 21 November 2019 22: 18 New
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                        I look to normally discuss the heads of power departments and current officers and the supreme commander in this context, yes, men? military, officers and warrant officers and private and sergeant? Or did you have a short-term oath and the word I swear is already a little rotten?

                        you just forgot everything, I know. life may of course offend you a little, but many wore epaulettes right away - how can this even be understood?

                        I disdain such creativity and such (what is censorship to call it?) characters who spread it. the level of such reflection is in the area of ​​the censor. no with proper, hawking it, public

                        I can’t eat when I look at your sad amateur performance.

                        The military is sad. I won’t even spend minus on you, you’re not the bird of the flight.


                      2. nikolai.kolya
                        nikolai.kolya 22 November 2019 08: 25 New
                        +3
                        Don't cry you're a man
                        laughing
                        You can sleep peacefully for this picture (without retouching).
                        Scream cheers!
                      3. Catfish
                        Catfish 22 November 2019 16: 54 New
                        +4
                        I tried to figure out the welter that you gave out in your post. Quite a complicated matter, “all eggs are piled in one basket”, and sergeants with generals and a “rotten” oath.
                        If we talk about the oath, then in our country for some time (1917) the oath was not sworn to individuals, but to the Fatherland, so the Supreme Commander has absolutely nothing to do with it, and even more so the heads of power departments. If we talk about my generation, then we took the oath to a state which no longer exists, and somehow I have not been accustomed to swear several times.
                        ... the level of such reflection is in the area of ​​the censor. no with the proper, hawking, public

                        But this phrase needs a specific translation into Russian.
                      4. St Petrov
                        St Petrov 28 November 2019 23: 37 New
                        0
                        “I, (surname, name, patronymic), solemnly swear allegiance to my Fatherland - the Russian Federation.
                        I swear to observe the Constitution of the Russian Federation, strictly comply with the requirements of military regulations, orders of commanders and commanders.
                        I swear to fulfill the military duty with dignity, courageously defend the freedom, independence and constitutional system of Russia, the people and the Fatherland. ”


                        yeah. nothing to do with it.

                        But this phrase needs a specific translation into Russian


                        in the pigsty a place for such jokes-jokes. this is the level of some kind of crib

                      5. Catfish
                        Catfish 29 November 2019 00: 22 New
                        +1
                        in the pigsty a place for such jokes-jokes. this is the level of some kind of crib

                        I am not a specialist in pigsties and cowsheds, you know better. request
        2. nikolai.kolya
          nikolai.kolya 21 November 2019 17: 06 New
          +5
          vote = election = democracy ....
          Apparently you are 18-20 years old?
          Look, the baby is more careful, of course, they recognize a foreign agent .... fellow
        3. at84432384
          at84432384 21 November 2019 18: 46 New
          +7
          Old man, do you vote for Putin as his fan (as for Pele of the Brazilians), or for the idiology that Putin offers? An explanation is required here.
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 21 November 2019 19: 00 New
            -10
            I vote for the course that the supreme takes and leads our country. I like the number of nuclear power plants, hydroelectric power stations, bridges and roads under construction. I like what has been done in the army and what I see when leaving home. I like Krymnash and what is happening in foreign policy. I like the salaries of the military. I like that now the service is honorable. And about r-Evolutionaries - I have been reading this revolutionary vomit since connecting to the Internet - since 2000. They all write that soon and now wassat These moans have been on the runet since the election of Putin.
            Since then, there have already been so many bridges and blocks of nuclear power plants and hydroelectric power stations built and so on ... It is ruining the whole country, you know

            for the idiology that Putin offers?


            Article 13.

            1. The Russian Federation recognizes ideological diversity.
            2. No ideology can be established as a state or mandatory.
            3. The Russian Federation recognizes political diversity, multi-party system.
            4. Public associations are equal before the law.
            1. Fevralsk. Morev
              Fevralsk. Morev 22 November 2019 01: 48 New
              +8
              In Russia, gas is more expensive than in Kazakhstan, also like it? Do you like resigning doctors and teachers with a meager salary? And the seized billions from the colonels of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB, the gopnik from Alpha, theft at the cosmodrome and the collection of money for the treatment of children, is this a buzz for you?
            2. syndicalist
              syndicalist 22 November 2019 09: 07 New
              +5
              Quote: c-Petrov
              1. The Russian Federation recognizes ideological diversity.
              2. No ideology can be established as a state or mandatory.
              3. The Russian Federation recognizes political diversity, multi-party system.
              4. Public associations are equal before the law.

              And do you seriously think that all of the above has a place to be in today's Russia?
        4. Obi-Wan Kenobi
          Obi-Wan Kenobi 22 November 2019 14: 33 New
          +5
          For me, voting day is a holiday. I go and vote for Putin and I know that somewhere someone will whine and will endure further

          Question:
          How much do you pay for such nonsense? Or are you so "ideological" by yourself?
  • paul3390
    paul3390 21 November 2019 15: 17 New
    +12
    Well - Putin, too, was not forced to accept a cannibalistic anti-people’s law on pensions .. As well as raising VAT and everything else ..
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 21 November 2019 16: 53 New
      -14
      Well, nobody forced Putin to adopt a cannibalistic anti-people pension law either.

      laughing Are you talking about Russia or about the rest of the CIS and world countries too?
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      2. Edmond dantes
        Edmond dantes 22 November 2019 10: 38 New
        +6
        I would like to remind you that one of the pretexts for raising the retirement age was low labor productivity. And literally six months later, Medvedev wants to reduce the working week due to the fact that we already have high labor productivity.
  • paul3390
    paul3390 21 November 2019 15: 23 New
    +9
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    So meaningless and merciless ...

    . For the top - it may be pointless, but for the people - it is even filled with the deepest meanings .. For once again - greedy bastards brought people to grips ..
    1. Fevralsk. Morev
      Fevralsk. Morev 21 November 2019 15: 53 New
      +10
      In case of victory, rebellion is called differently.
    2. St Petrov
      St Petrov 21 November 2019 16: 54 New
      -10
      For once again - greedy bastards brought people to the pen ..


      Already? And you brought to the handle talk about it on the VO? wassat I’m already mimicking from your posts, yes ..
    3. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 21 November 2019 19: 21 New
      +3
      Meaningless for the people. Something is doubtful that decent people will come to power, and the idea will change ... Soap is seen by certain sections of the population who want to rob and smash under the guise.
  • saltickov.
    saltickov. 21 November 2019 15: 28 New
    +2
    I haven’t been to VO for a long time, where I don’t recognize the comments, polemic of the fight.
  • New Year day
    New Year day 21 November 2019 15: 38 New
    +16
    oh, author, author!
    Well, you can’t!
    ... the opposition itself has managed to compromise itself quite strongly ...

    and then..
    Thieves requiring the overthrow of other thieves ....

    The question then is: why are thieves in power and not sitting, why are opposition thieves also not sitting?
    Maybe a hand washes a hand, or your accusations are unfounded?
    ... The opposition in the country is fragmented, its most radical parts are not just divided ...

    Troubles in the country will not begin because of the opposition. Organized groups of radical marginals are capable of violent clashes. These groups are essentially power units of political organizations or independent groups consisting of people capable of violence: nationalists, Islamists, associations of former military personnel, etc.
    The “New Greatness” case revealed the weak side of the work of special services in eliminating the source of a power clash - the stick system: it investigates what is useful for career growth; real crime remains out of sight.
    Radical elements do not go to peaceful meetings, do not shout that they are without weapons, do not chant “for love”, “shame” and “allow”. They wait for the moment and come out suddenly.
    After the “first row” of peaceful passionaries, hipsters, intellectuals and other representatives of the spineless middle class receives a portion of their batons, a “second row” arises - radicals who, in a healthy social situation, are in moral opposition to the “first row” and the security forces.
    The political radical understands that he is committing a crime. Rather, what is a crime in terms of the existing legal system. The only guarantee that the radical will not be held accountable in the future is considered to be a quick force radical change of the entire system.
    Behind them comes the “third row” - organized political structures that can offer people who are able to exercise authority in the new state bureaucracy.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 21 November 2019 16: 39 New
      -14
      Troubles in the country will not begin because of the opposition

      laughing Sylvester's wet dreams must be cast in granite. Will you start the Troubles yourself with a squabble and other lovers here or will you leave this matter to others? Those who are younger and bolder?)

      Tell me the year of turmoil. How is # coming soon? For The Hague, are you collecting nothing here with your party? Can you not outline and record the fried facts of the violation of democratic rights by the bloody, tyranny of this Kremlin?

      PS Have you kept your Ukrainian passport? Just in case, if suddenly there will be confusion? Or did I confuse you with someone here, Crimean?

      I have a lot of questions for the revolutionaries.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 21 November 2019 18: 12 New
        +10
        Quote: c-Petrov
        You will start the troubles yourself with a squabble and other lovers here


        Still, Lenin was not studied. The history of the CPSU was missed. Ignorance in the knowledge of the issue and rushing laughing
        Quote: c-Petrov
        Tell me the year of turmoil

        Take a look around and follow a simple road, look into a village, a small town
  • Karen
    Karen 21 November 2019 15: 45 New
    -2
    Earlier, I already wrote somehow ... There are historians in Armenia who claim that in the WWI there was an agreement between the British and the Turks: the British take the oil lands from the Turks, but in return they agree to create Turan at the expense of the lands of RI ... (this explains the cosmetic the war of the British against the OI, including Gallipoli) ...
    If Walstreet succeeds in dividing Iran into 4 parts, then this will be the first step to that plan ...
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 21 November 2019 17: 35 New
      +4
      Consperalogical nonsense
  • Fevralsk. Morev
    Fevralsk. Morev 21 November 2019 15: 50 New
    +9
    Yes Yes. Bulk with the liberals, ready, under the leadership of the State Department, to carry out a revolution in Russia !!!! Or maybe the main threat to the revolution in Russia is the comprador regime, which for 20 years has been creating the conditions for a ruthless Russian rebellion? Remember the February Revolution? What began with the protests that the aristocracy saddled.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 21 November 2019 15: 53 New
      +4
      The February revolution was organized just by the oligarchy, the highest generals and part of the aristocracy. Popular protests are the result of an artificially induced famine. Or do you think that people had access to food distribution?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 21 November 2019 16: 09 New
        +5
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        The February revolution was organized just by the oligarchy

        Well, depending on what kind of revolution, if the February revolution of 1917 of the year, then there are many components that led to the collapse of the Empire.
    2. St Petrov
      St Petrov 21 November 2019 16: 18 New
      -6
      Or maybe the main threat to the revolution in Russia is the comprador regime, which for 20 years has been creating the conditions for a ruthless Russian rebellion?

      another r evolutionary latent wassat How many of you are here
      I cut it only in the head of the fragile, all sorts of citizens with low social responsibility.

      Until these 20 years, you already swallowed a lot of things, and 1996, too, but then everything suited you? And now you have decided ... I don’t even know which word to choose the censored ... to sob about depressing red? Those. were you happy with this rezhima when budget employees for half a year sat without salaries and salaries? Then everything was as it should, but then came the compradors?

      This "cutting" at least does not dissolve itself and does not wash its hands, hammering a bolt on the people who believed it. And this regime doesn’t even have its own “CPSU” with 30 million who vowed to defend it.

      PS there are very few cons. Need more. I know you all here on the list, latent revolutionaries. wassat
      1. Fevralsk. Morev
        Fevralsk. Morev 21 November 2019 16: 31 New
        +14
        You forgot to write winged phrases: “Wanna Like Like in Ukraine?”, “Wanna Like Like in the 90s?”, “Take off the Black Glasses”.
        In 1996, I was 21 years old, I worked as a shooter at the VOKhR railway station, there was enough money for a family of three. In the 90s there was no work and salary, now there is work, but you need to work on a shift, or in two jobs. Paid for everything - housing and communal services, for gasoline, for groceries, for mortgages (loans), for teaching a child at the institute, and everything, NO MONEY. The same 90s, but on the other hand.
      2. at84432384
        at84432384 21 November 2019 19: 02 New
        +3
        In 1996, few were satisfied with “everything”, only oligarchs and “raspberry jackets”. But even then, people didn’t see through his teeth that he was. This is a quality transition.
      3. Catfish
        Catfish 21 November 2019 21: 21 New
        +1
        I know you all here on the list, latent revolutionaries.


        It is right! And so when necessary - right to the nail!

        (whisper the phone?)
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 21 November 2019 21: 27 New
          -3
          I’m civilian, I have stubble and I don’t line the edging on my neck, I really do not know whether or not luckily. But for the sake of interest I would have looked from which countries here half of the revolutionaries. I like chatting in roulette chat with Svidomo telling me about a bad life in the Russian Federation, and most importantly - they can’t pretend to be brothers or Russians for a long time in the full sense of the word. Everything is more complicated here. Well, to those who are from Russia - the military and others who have sworn allegiance and are now bleating about - I also have something to say. Well, those who bark at the supreme commander, but shawl Yeltsin's story. Ask who voted for? Yes? The revolutionaries for socialism who. Shawali Yeltsin, now on the forums about the revolution, bleat. We must ask every revolutionist why he was breaking up the Soviet Union and woke up after 30 years and what was there with an oath not to let loose the system. And now, just like in the kitchens then, you are shaking your own country, which is simply with a different name. And your kitchen is now on the Internet
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 21 November 2019 21: 38 New
            -1
            Here it is necessary to make registration by the number of military ID - it will blow off half. But even Solovyov has his own basket, so you also need such an audience, for drilling
          2. Catfish
            Catfish 21 November 2019 21: 54 New
            +7
            And now, just like in the kitchens then, you are shaking your own country, which is simply with a different name. And your kitchen is now on the Internet


            I eat in the kitchen. As for voting, in Soviet times people went to vote solely so that people working at the polling station would not have to worry. By the nineties I was already over forty, and with age, illusions have some property to automatically evaporate. I did not go to the polls, for I understood the complete senselessness (for me) of this event. I don’t belong to the “Revolutionaries”, as you call them, but I don’t consider positive people like you “patriots” either.
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 21 November 2019 22: 38 New
              -4
              Yes, I think you perceive such a positive? everything is mutual with us. Here they are also not revolutionaries, but lovers stand.

              They put pots on their heads and got themselves happiness. These are the same characters.

              1. Fevralsk. Morev
                Fevralsk. Morev 22 November 2019 01: 59 New
                +4
                I about the inscription on the photo. You turn on the zombie, and in it the Kremlin louts are shouting, as well as in Russia. This is clear. They look in their refrigerator, which stands in a villa in Italy, on the Cote d'Azur, in the castle of Scotland .. And the people in their own, c. Stand in a rented dorm room, in an emergency house, in the hut of an dying village. And it turns out not the dock.
    3. at84432384
      at84432384 22 November 2019 20: 34 New
      +1
      Navalny does not start any revolution. In the best case, it is to move some villains away from the feeder and take their place, and in the worst, it’s just a Kremlin project for dividing the people. And it works, many young people consider Navalny "for the people." The position of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation to bewilderment is that they should expose corruption to the authorities, not Navalny.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 21 November 2019 16: 05 New
    0
    But this, of course, is just a coincidence - the Americans are out of business, all coincidences are random, the stunts were performed by professional stuntmen ...
    Here you can argue, because the ears of minke whales stick out anyway. Of course, all methods of nonviolent struggle are described by Gene Sharp of "198 Methods of Nonviolent Action", and other methods. But here is the methodology itself, it has been worked out and it is only being implemented, but it is not developed in every state by the “poke” method.
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    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 21 November 2019 16: 26 New
      -13
      Dear, you forgot to say, "You want it like in Ukraine?" “Have You Forgotten Like in the 90s?”, “Clear Black Glasses”


      what I would like to tell you here cannot be expressed censorship. So you read the powder version

      In 1996, I was 21 years old. Salaries were enough for a family of three


      Hodor also had everything in openwork in 1996. And the car service worker here from the site after 1991, too, everything went uphill - he tells everyone that in the 90s it was normal.


      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 21 November 2019 17: 19 New
        +10
        Quote: c-Petrov
        And the car service worker here from the site after the 1991 year, too, everything went uphill - he tells everyone that it was normal in the 90.

        Are you hinting at me, or what? So I only wrote for myself, and not for everyone in general. Do you remember a lot of things from the nineties? After all, you were crap in diapers, and you rode on a pedal horse. Remembering how you and your mother teacher lived in 90, you forget to indicate what kind of bumps you have at the beginning of the internet. Have you washed cars at intersections?
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 21 November 2019 18: 14 New
          +3
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          what kind of cones do you have Internet at the beginning of the zero appeared.


          ?????? Really ?? laughing
  • Horst78
    Horst78 21 November 2019 16: 25 New
    +6
    increase in gas prices in Iran
    But this is a jamb of the Iranian authorities. How many countries have “turned over” in recent years precisely because of rising fuel prices.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 21 November 2019 16: 31 New
      -10
      But this is a jamb of the Iranian authorities.

      abolished the subsidy. They closed the attraction of unprecedented generosity - for economic reasons. This is not a jamb, but a necessary measure.

      When a country is squeezed by economic sanctions, it turns to internal reserves, because there are no more external ones.
    2. Tzar
      Tzar 22 November 2019 11: 14 New
      0
      But Berdymukhamedov canceled a freebie - and nothing, calmly writes books, goes to bugatti and reads rap ...
  • xax
    xax 21 November 2019 16: 25 New
    +6
    left

    The left is the second attempt.
    Liberalism has not failed - you need to try something else.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 21 November 2019 16: 35 New
      -11
      Liberalism has not failed - you need to try something else.

      And something didn’t come in with Grudinin wassat
  • fif21
    fif21 21 November 2019 16: 29 New
    +8
    The Russians harness for a long time, but travel fast! The United States only uses the situation that has arisen in the country. In Iran, for example, the actions of US special services are almost paralyzed. People in Russia do not believe in the effectiveness of demonstrations and rallies. The authorities do not hear them. But the radical underground is gaining strength. Protest moods in society are also increasing. And the optimism of the author is not appropriate here. (An optimist is not an informed pessimist lol ) Everything will depend on the election results. hi
  • parusnik
    parusnik 21 November 2019 16: 56 New
    +6
    At present, the US government does not have diplomatic or consular relations with Iran ... Apparently, agents of the State Department are seeping through the border and they are stirring up people to protest against rising prices for essential goods, raising prices for gas..If Iran’s special services didn’t they worked there, something happened a long time ago ... Chile, where did ears come from ... a poor country, as it was, it remains, the average salary is 26 thousand rubles ... President, millionaire .. friend of the USA, not Dr. Allende. .and why should the United States cause unrest when for a coup n ... exists army officer corps trained in SShA..Ezheli had a change of government, such as the United States would not ustraivaet..Davno tanks drove to the Parliament ..
  • Fraracol_2
    Fraracol_2 21 November 2019 17: 13 New
    +8
    A completely closed country, what external influence can there be? Just do not need any authority to bring the country to a similar situation.
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 21 November 2019 17: 27 New
    +1
    The Chinese of Hong Kong have rather superficial reasons for such a confrontation. Well, what kind of power will students buy apartments? Only the “price list opposition” shouts like Navalny or the Communist Party.
    1. syndicalist
      syndicalist 22 November 2019 09: 19 New
      +3
      Quote: samarin1969
      The Chinese of Hong Kong have rather superficial reasons for such a confrontation.

      It seems so to you. The reasons are quite deep. The population of Hong Kong predominantly has a Western mentality. There was no dictatorship, no total ideology. Therefore, it is quite predictable to respond to attempts to assassinate its freedom.
      1. Tzar
        Tzar 22 November 2019 11: 16 New
        0
        That is, Hong Kong is like Belarus - "Chinese with a quality mark" laughing
  • Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 21 November 2019 17: 28 New
    +10
    I did not understand this article. Everything was mixed in a heap - Iran, Russia, opposition, gasoline, State Department .....

    PS I just think that in every country where they tighten gasoline by 200%, a riot and worse than Iranian will immediately follow. And without the State Department ....

    Otherwise (as an example) the Greeks every week have a strike and once a month a national strike and once a year they burn what they get. What is the State Department again?
    Otherwise, I can only greet the Greeks - the Government should be afraid of the people and it needs to be fired once a year or two. So that they were afraid of stealing Had ....
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 21 November 2019 17: 33 New
    -13
    To disperse our schizoid liberalists, it’s necessary not to attract the Rosguard, but to kill the Cossacks with whips and stupid sabers, but you’ll just kill your mind.
    And the mummers go around to no avail, they themselves need to be driven up to the seventh sweat in training, let them serve the people.
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 21 November 2019 17: 37 New
      +2
      Iran needs a socialist revolution
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 21 November 2019 17: 47 New
        +3
        Muslims will not have this, well, they were part of the Union, but at the household level they remained in the Middle Ages.
        1. Kronos
          Kronos 21 November 2019 19: 21 New
          +4
          You probably don’t know, but in the 79 position of the socialists there were strong and not crush the Islamists of all opponents Iran would be different
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 21 November 2019 20: 20 New
            +5
            This is true, those communists who were not stifled by SAVAK specialists, the IRGC cut out, they say little about this, but the Communists took the people to the streets, but they cooperated with religious leaders to avoid a civil war, the Communists had armed detachments .. And what ended. ..
      2. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 21 November 2019 19: 16 New
        0
        They already do not live very well, why should they aggravate socialism. For what?
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 21 November 2019 18: 19 New
      +13
      Quote: Ros 56
      Cossacks with whips and stupid checkers, you will not kill to kill, and to pour in the mind just right.

      laughing are these from the village of Kushchevskaya? Heroes, lay down under the bandits, it remains only to show whips in Moscow. And if there will be a refund? And it will be, then - a new civil? Yes you are an agent of the State Department laughing
      1. Fevralsk. Morev
        Fevralsk. Morev 22 November 2019 02: 05 New
        +3
        Recovering after the Civil War was the answer for the whips and dumb checkers. And now the Cossacks, live differently? Is power shared with them from revenues from the sale of oil? What would it be for her, the thieving power, her people with whips and dumb checkers ...
  • Karen
    Karen 21 November 2019 17: 42 New
    -3
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    Otherwise (as an example) the Greeks every week have a strike and once a month a national strike and once a year they burn what they get. What is the State Department again?

    Somehow they voiced who from abroad conducted major protests ... A certain Gozman ... from Mexico, it seems ... that is - an obvious Trotskyist ...
  • eklmn
    eklmn 21 November 2019 18: 05 New
    +4
    I'll try to turn on the logic.
    Is power in Russia democratic? (well, there are elections / courts / laws ..)
    The answer is yes.
    Are government representatives elected? - YES.
    So why, when they criticize THIS representative (elected, by the way), they say that this is a criticism of the authorities and is it illegal?
    The official, that - was born_with_power_in_hand or did the people temporarily (for the term of his plenipotentiary) allow him to lead?
    In fact, it is interesting to observe the phenomenon of 140 million Russians-Gaponovtsev. Gaponovtsev, because judging by fair complaints, only ONE person in the country can arrange the supply of hot water, gas, electric power, and drug delivery. Here they turn to him. Even in the USSR this was not.
    1. Fevralsk. Morev
      Fevralsk. Morev 22 November 2019 02: 08 New
      +1
      In what article of the Constitution of the Russian Federation does it say that you can FOUR times be elected president? And, the comma was not there, that’s four times elected, for the fourth time and did not get off the presidency.
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  • U-58
    U-58 21 November 2019 19: 01 New
    +9
    I read almost with boredom until I got to the "analysis" of the situation in Russia.
    It turns out that the former presidential candidate (I hope that the future) Grudinin is a threat to national security .... the existing system.
    The subtext traces the idea that the support of this and similar candidates is a malicious act, rocking the Russian foundations.
    Or the foundations of the bourgeois oligarchic world order of our society, which is now one and the same.
    Shameful to read ...
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 21 November 2019 20: 25 New
      +4
      Shameful to read ...
      ... And do not say if the people were brought to a pen, by raising prices and other "reforms" and he took to the streets, agents of the State Department are not different from in Chile .. laughing
    2. syndicalist
      syndicalist 22 November 2019 09: 37 New
      +5
      As for the capitalist Grudinin, swinging "the foundations of the bourgeois oligarchic world order of our society" is a little ridiculous.
  • Basarev
    Basarev 21 November 2019 19: 35 New
    -6
    Russia would not have to butt with the States, but would agree on a joint attack on China and Iran. I always said: Russia can very profitably sell itself to the USA as an anti-Chinese shield. Second Japan.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 21 November 2019 20: 27 New
      +2
      Cynical. But it is true. Otherwise, capitalist Russia cannot survive ...
      1. Fevralsk. Morev
        Fevralsk. Morev 22 November 2019 02: 10 New
        0
        More precisely, the comprador regime governing Russia.
  • swzero
    swzero 21 November 2019 20: 27 New
    +2
    In fact, Iran is less vulnerable than we are, because they have an ideology that is guarded by the IRGC. And the ruling elite supports this ideology and is not going to dismantle it. IMHO Iran can be crushed only through the ruling elite, as the Union, or by external influences like Libya and Iraq. Color revolutions there will not help.
    1. syndicalist
      syndicalist 22 November 2019 09: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: swzero
      Color revolutions there will not help.

      Yes, they will not help anywhere without the internal conditions created by the authorities themselves.
  • akunin
    akunin 21 November 2019 21: 02 New
    +5
    Therefore, despite all the nonsense committed recently by our "economists", the positions of power are still quite strong. And the Kremlin still has a lot of resources to strengthen its positions - it is enough to simply disperse the government in order to soar again in the wake of popular adoration. But there’s still “cloachena” ... Oh, excuse me, there is still the Higher School of Economics, there are a lot of “oligarchs” who, due to some misunderstanding, are still walking free.
    trust in power is undermined and if the author does not understand this, then he is naive (take the last "analysis" of the cost of certificates from a narcologist on the "Oriole" train - the deflection is not set off). Did the oligarchs decide to punish: Sechin, Miller, Chemezov? (100 times "ha -ha ") there is no popular adoration - there is bitterness, albeit quiet, but grumble.
    With bad laws and good officials, you can rule the country. But if officials are bad, the best laws will not help.
    bismarck
    But for Iran, to be honest, disturbing
    for us - yes, but for Iran - no.
  • karabass
    karabass 21 November 2019 21: 02 New
    +3
    We do not need a revolution, after the revolution only the revolutionaries themselves will live better, the people will be worse — history has proved this. It’s necessary to work out a mechanism so that the authorities finally get the opinion of people that we need not a dashing courage, expressed in threats to the Western world, but a secured, dignified life And the best mechanism for this is free, democratic elections
    1. eklmn
      eklmn 21 November 2019 21: 46 New
      +1
      Everything you say is correct. Moreover - nothing needs to be developed - it already exists! But ... does not work! It doesn’t work because managers DO NOT WANT to be replaceable. Is there a candidate (s) for the presidency in Russia? No. And why? Yes, because to be afraid! And it’s right to be afraid - because if something happens to them, then there is NO PROTECT, the courts do not work. And the courts do not work, because the constitution does not allow work. Who does not give? I don’t know, but someone ...
    2. syndicalist
      syndicalist 22 November 2019 09: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: karabass
      And the best mechanism for this is free, democratic elections.

      Who argues with this? But do you seriously believe that after all that the current government has done, it will suddenly change its mind, turn to face the people, say: “Now everything is strictly according to the Constitution, the elections will be real, let the newly elected sit us confiscated, we will confiscate what we have!”?
      1. karabass
        karabass 22 November 2019 14: 48 New
        +1
        Yes, I seriously believe that it will be so, do you think that the current stage of the fight against corruption is just like that, did our conscience wake up a conscience? no matter how, yes there’s nowhere to put a sample on them! They simply grow old, their grip and strength are no longer the same. They stole from the people for 5 generations - now their soul hurts, I want to save for children and grandchildren. BUT their children DON'T - they pampered, did not go to dad's universities, they will devour them! New, young wolves are growing up, hungry, they also want to steal. THAT'S SCARY FOR THEM! so they want these young wolves to serve their children disinterestedly, for a salary, and without corruption
    3. at84432384
      at84432384 22 November 2019 20: 54 New
      -1
      And then the authorities do not know this ?! We need a change in the socio-political system, and this is a revolution. If it does not happen, then in 20 years we simply will not be. There will be a historical region of Russia, once inhabited by a strong and freedom-loving people, overgrown with weeds and thistles.
  • Ali Kokand
    Ali Kokand 21 November 2019 21: 12 New
    +4
    Iran has its own specifics, and the situation has almost no effect on the "Central Asian monarchies." They have their own "garden", we have our own. Neither on a religious nor civilizational level, Iran has no influence in the SA. We are Sunnis, they are Shiites, that’s it. Many people are implicitly aware of the causes of the Syrian conflict, but because of the factor of ISIS intervention, it is unsafe to express their attitude. They are not friends to us. And for the Iranians, Russia is also a situational ally. Khomeini's words about the big devils are remembered there. It’s not worth it to flatter yourself. Iranians have chosen their own path. And with their dogmas, we are enemies to them.
  • Eugene (Eugene)
    Eugene (Eugene) 21 November 2019 22: 58 New
    +1
    I read your article, Victor, I agree with you.
    And all this will trample through the Ferghana Valley (the crisis is brewing in this region), will the location in the neighborhood of the Russian military bases save? Time will tell. Yes, comrade Nazarbayev is 79 years old, and his flirting with the Turks (the story of the monument and his speech about Russia, friendly Turkey) and negotiations with US representatives, so as not to freeze the currency - “Kazakhstan’s property” ...
    About 5 years ago, a series of books appeared in the light of book lovers (lovers of analytics, etc.), and there is something in the archives of the media, I think there is information. When the massacre in Syria developed at a rapid pace, people from the General Staff Academy warned that if Iran (Persia) falls, this is a sign for Russia, it will be next.
    Flirting with Israel, which is in contra with the Persians, for Russia can play a cruel joke.
    Surprisingly, several years ago the media scantily flew by the information that the Israeli Air Force landed in Transcaucasia, and then flew away, these visits of Israeli warriors were not particularly discussed on Russian TV, the "stories" about the presence of retired in the Caucasus (in the Caucasus) Israeli military - high-ranking PMC mercenaries, these "stories" Israeli analysts - journalists did not refute massively, publicly. Azerbaijan and Turkey cooperate with each other, and there is Armenia and the Karabakh conflict nearby, Georgia.
    A good springboard for them, if successful, they can use it against Iran.
    Will the "edible fruits" of geopolitical multi-portage in Syria? We'll see.
    And most importantly. Our mobilization organization in the event of a war in urban conditions against terror is impossible, in order to counter terrorism you need to have an organized people's militia (ideological), as well as
    Amendment in the Constitution of the Russian Federation that ideology is allowed in Russia (ideology for the people), but some comrades are afraid of this (those whose hands are not clean). And here the question begs about the ideological militias who fought for New Russia, about how they were sometimes treated.
  • Fevralsk. Morev
    Fevralsk. Morev 22 November 2019 01: 41 New
    -3
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    God forbid we see a Russian riot. So meaningless and merciless ...

    I do not want to see a riot. I want to participate in it. So that those snickering, sitting in the Kremlin, have already answered for 20 years, for my aimlessly lived years in poverty and unrealized opportunities. For destroyed enterprises and stolen folk wealth. Give a revolution !!!!!
    1. eklmn
      eklmn 22 November 2019 03: 26 New
      +1
      My advice to you is if you have a mother-in-law, wife, child, then in this order let them wipe the handle of the front door when you get home.
      (Black sad humor ... (((
    2. Eugene (Eugene)
      Eugene (Eugene) 22 November 2019 09: 20 New
      +2
      Sergey, my advice to you, think about the soldiers of the Novorossiysk Volunteer Corps, about the situation in Syria. Where our soldiers are in a difficult position. A riot in the rear is a blow to the back of our soldiers. Remember the fate of the Russian corps that fought near Paris in the First World War.
      What is it like to fight when behind the riot. Your right to argue that war is needed in Syria or not, etc. For me, certainly the events taking place near the borders of Russia are more important. But I do not want the soldiers of my country to be defeated in Syria because of the rebellion in Russia. Kohl climbed ...
      It is necessary to look for other solutions. We need self-organization in society, to cultivate Russianness within ourselves. The situation is not simple. I despise very much those who are mired in corruption, despise very much. But there are our compatriots fighting on long lines, the soldier does not choose a war - the war itself takes it.
    3. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 22 November 2019 13: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: Fevralsk. Morev
      I do not want to see a riot. I want to participate in it

      Come on, dear ... just do not forget - there are many people who do not like riots. Some of them are in the service, and some, like me, are purely determined as an example. What sharch you - are not you afraid?

      Quote: Fevralsk. Morev
      уchavto be

      That’s exactly what they say - Chav-Chav-Chav ... and there is no February, and November - neither request

      Quote: Fevralsk. Morev
      my aimlessly lived years in poverty and unrealized opportunities

      What are the “opportunities” when you, dear, didn’t really understand the letter for your fortieth?

      Here, read, absorb:

      At twenty, there is no mind - and never will be.
      At thirty, there is no wife - and never will be.
      At forty, there is no money - and never will be.

      And to you, dear, to the campaign - the late one is rushing about already. Atchavstnik, damn it, rebel laughing
      1. Fevralsk. Morev
        Fevralsk. Morev 22 November 2019 13: 59 New
        -2
        They got to the bottom of a spelling mistake, but you can’t really answer. In Russia in the Civil War, many did not want to participate, but had to. And you, dear, will participate, not where to go. There is no castle in Scotland.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 22 November 2019 14: 15 New
          0
          Quote: Fevralsk. Morev
          And you, dear, will participate

          No ... I’m easier to put up for you, and the war will end right there laughing

          Quote: Fevralsk. Morev
          There is no castle in Scotland

          No. What for? There are no pockets in the coffin (s) request
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 23 November 2019 01: 03 New
        -1
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        and part, like me, as an example - purely determined.

        But this is serious. Erpeshniki animals are worse than the GRU commandos.
  • Nitarius
    Nitarius 22 November 2019 06: 24 New
    0
    here .. soft and strong .. of course you need help and China and Iran! Iran .. at least as if it weren’t! Better than not finding it right now!
  • oracul
    oracul 22 November 2019 07: 01 New
    -1
    It can only be noted that we are learning poorly from the United States, namely, how to act in conditions where, having the goal of crushing Russia, they are systematically rocking countries around the world that can support us to one degree or another. We, as in the days of the USSR, are late and begin to act when thunder rumbles. Yes, Russia, in general, looks worthy in the international arena, but it turns out that we explain, clarify, urge, justify, try to minimize risks, which is generally understandable. But dignity over time can turn into its opposite i.e. limitations. And this sometimes happens, it is not noticeable for someone who is sincerely convinced of the rightness of their cause, forgetting that the opposing side also acts and does not necessarily follow the once established rules, moreover, it deliberately violates, blunders, and sometimes frankly distorts them. Alas! We are too trusting and simple-hearted in evaluating the words of our opponents, losing sight of the fact that there is only one criterion of truth - practice and you must judge and act on their affairs.
  • Altai72
    Altai72 22 November 2019 08: 53 New
    -1
    Quote: Ros 56
    Muslims will not have this, well, they were part of the Union, but at the household level they remained in the Middle Ages.

    When in Samarkand there was a sewage system in Europe, people were in need through a window! Write smarter garbage.
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 23 November 2019 01: 04 New
      -1
      Quote: Altai72
      Quote: Ros 56
      Muslims will not have this, well, they were part of the Union, but at the household level they remained in the Middle Ages.

      When in Samarkand there was a sewage system in Europe, people were in need through a window! Write smarter garbage.

      True, now everything is exactly the opposite, but these are already insignificant trifles.
  • syndicalist
    syndicalist 22 November 2019 09: 25 New
    0
    Quote: eklmn
    I'll try to turn on the logic.
    Is power in Russia democratic? (well, there are elections / courts / laws ..)
    The answer is yes.
    Are government representatives elected? - YES.

    Logic is useless to include with an inadequate perception of reality.
  • Sergey Mikula
    Sergey Mikula 22 November 2019 11: 40 New
    +1
    But for Iran, to be honest, alarming.

    Is the author so worried about the fate of the "Islamic revolution"? Do not worry, the ayatollahs, if necessary, will drown the country in blood, but they will not give up power. This is not a weak Shah, these are Islamic fanatics.
  • Fevralsk. Morev
    Fevralsk. Morev 22 November 2019 13: 52 New
    -1
    Quote: Eugene (Eugene)
    A riot in the rear is a blow to the back of our soldiers

    And the looting of the country, what is it? Multibillion-dollar bribes and theft, the sale of natural resources and money in offshore, if the amateur bathyscaphe himself read on a piece of paper that Putin’s medicine is a breakthrough (failure), what is it? Yes, this breakthrough is everywhere, in the army, the Ministry of Emergencies, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Federal Penitentiary Service, education, and medicine. Raising the retirement age after his elections and promises, they will not raise the retirement age, he sang something about the wooden mac, what is it? Kazakhstan buys oil and gasoline from us; it costs 15 rubles cheaper. In the government, the same faces, ct all fill up the work, the PRESIDENT'S INSTRUCTIONS do not fulfill, but continue to sit in their chairs. Treat this with understanding? This blow is inflicted on the people. We live in poverty and are dying out (leave the MKAD)
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 22 November 2019 14: 06 New
      +4
      Quote: Fevralsk. Morev
      We live in poverty and die out

      You? For you imperceptibly - you are wonderfully active and the Internet you have paid.

      Quote: Fevralsk. Morev
      beyond the Moscow Ring Road

      I’ve been behind the MKAD all my life. What did you want to say, dear?
      1. Fevralsk. Morev
        Fevralsk. Morev 22 November 2019 14: 14 New
        0
        The level of wealth is determined, put 350 rubles a month on the phone? And beyond the Moscow Ring Road, dear friend, Russia, that in Moscow is called prAAAvintsiya. Go to villages and small towns, where the salaries are 14 thousand, or even just not there. I'm not talking about Altai or Siberia. For MKAD-Ivanovo, Yaroslavl, Ryazan and other areas. Where do people go to work? To Moscow. But there is no work at home with a normal salary. On watch. Either Moscow, or the North, or the Far East. Did you travel east on trains? It seems that men go to the front, or from the front. I also live outside the Moscow Ring Road in Omsk. And you ?
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 22 November 2019 15: 17 New
          -1
          Quote: Fevralsk. Morev
          And beyond the Moscow Ring Road, my dear friend, Russia, that in Moscow is called prAAAvintsiya ... I also live outside the Moscow Ring Road, in Omsk

          So how do you, dear, know what zamkadye is called in Moscow? He thought of it, Ali taught who? wink

          Quote: Fevralsk. Morev
          no work at home with a normal salary

          Water flowed ... cry, cry ... maybe someone will regret you miserable. You live with us -

          Quote: Fevralsk. Morev
          in a rented dorm room, in an emergency house, in the hut of an dying village

          Bendyazhka crying
  • high
    high 25 November 2019 04: 02 New
    -2
    ..... The standard of living in Iran is also far from European.
    As a result, not just protests broke out in the country, but real unrest,

    In many countries, the standard of living is far from European, but it’s calm there ...
    The standard of living of countries is determined by the UN
    ,, Quality of Life Index ,,
    which includes
    - Health
    - Material well-being.
    - The level of employment.
    - Political and civil liberties, etc.

    - Iran 88th place
    - Ukraine 98th place
    - Russia 105 place
    https://gtmarket.ru/ratings/quality-of-life-index/info

    In Iran, the population did not forget that during the Shah, Iran was one of the most dynamic economies in the world, the most developed country in the region, and GDP per capita was higher than in the USSR and Turkey ......
    The coup in Iran, carried out by religious fanatics, threw Iran decades away, GDP per capita fell 1.5 times.
    Under the check, for a minimum wage it was possible to buy 74 kg. red meat, with ayatollahs, only 10 kg.
    Therefore, the population of Iran periodically takes to the streets, but protests are brutally suppressed.
  • Alex Fox
    Alex Fox 25 November 2019 11: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    God forbid we see a Russian riot. So meaningless and merciless ...

    Riot can not be meaningless .. If the mass of people decided to riot, then this is the conscious choice of many ..
    I would say differently, God forbid that they would bring us to revolt .. Or God forbid, that those who rule the country would come to their senses ..

    Why does every liberal sectarian write not about himself personally but about some mythical us? who you are? a minority of moral lessons ... We the Russian people dream of seeing your rebellion so that you gather in one place, where you are slammed at once.
    1. Good_Anonymous
      Good_Anonymous 26 November 2019 11: 14 New
      0
      Quote: Alex Fox
      Why does every liberal sectarian write not about himself personally but about some mythical us?


      Quote: Alex Fox
      We are the Russian people


      good
  • Megatron
    Megatron 26 November 2019 21: 35 New
    0
    Kuzovkov sits on a salary, as always in his repertoire.
    Like it's time to stop the freebie, etc. How many people are mocking our people,
    retirement age, gasoline rises every month, prices too. I’m silent about the communal apartment. They said already, the fare on transport would take off as much as 10 rubles at once. But the main thing for us is not to rock the boat!