Russian S-400 air defense system criticized in Poland

Russian S-400 air defense system criticized in Poland

In Poland, criticized the Russian anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) S-400. According to the author of the article published on the pages of the Polish publication Gazeta, the Russian anti-aircraft complex does not meet the declared characteristics.


The author questions the ability of S-400 air defense systems located in the Kaliningrad Region to hit planes in Poland’s airspace, and calls the declared range of the complex an advertising campaign aimed at a potential buyer, as well as intimidation of a potential enemy.

The publication writes that the range of target detection by the C-400 radar is explained by the conditions of use, in particular, by the terrain and curvature of the Earth, so that the radar can detect targets in accordance with the claimed characteristics, it must be raised several kilometers above the surface of the Earth. The masts that are part of the C-400 can raise the radar to a height of not more than 25 meters, which indicates that the complex is not able to "see" the declared distance.

Over-the-horizon radars that use the phenomenon of reflection of radio waves from the ionosphere make it possible to see targets at a long distance, however, the available radars of this type in Russia are too bulky and do not differ in high accuracy of target detection.

In addition, Russian anti-aircraft missile systems are based on Soviet and Russian electronics, which are significantly behind the US. Russian microelectronics in control systems does not allow Russian systems to hit targets as accurately as, for example, the American anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) MIM-104 Patriot, adopted by the Polish army.

The only Russian weapons, which can cause problems for Poland, the author calls the OTRK "Iskander-M" located in the Kaliningrad region, as "the Russians have definitely underestimated the range of their missiles that can hit any target on Polish territory."
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  1. rocket757 20 November 2019 13: 14 New
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    Oh yes, great experts! They are now with the British, expert scientists, over the palm, before the cardinal, "fool"
    1. iConst 20 November 2019 13: 19 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      Oh yes, great experts!

      laughing
      "Muck, muck, Mr. First!" (film "Man from the Capuchin Boulevard")
      1. maxim947 20 November 2019 13: 27 New
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        The author along the way only yesterday found out about the existing curvature of the planet and decided to make a mess ...
        1. Thrall 20 November 2019 13: 37 New
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          Quote: maxim947
          learned about the existing curvature of the planet

          The earth is flat! am smile
          1. Amurets 20 November 2019 13: 47 New
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            Quote: Thrall
            Quote: maxim947
            learned about the existing curvature of the planet

            The earth is flat! am smile

            "And keeps on three whales." Copernicus regretted that he was born in Poland.
            1. krot 20 November 2019 14: 13 New
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              It finally came to the Poles that the earth was round! laughing
              1. Nyrobsky 20 November 2019 17: 46 New
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                Quote: krot
                It finally came to the Poles that the earth was round! laughing

                That is yes. But they will never understand why, with such “shoals” revealed by the Polish “expert,” the Americans threaten sanctions every time and fight hysterically because one of their alleged opponents or allies wants to acquire the S-400.
                1. mikh-korsakov 20 November 2019 18: 58 New
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                  So what was the matter, panov. Make a calculation, taking into account the curvature of the earth, I repeat the curvature of the earth, and not the curvature of your nose. Get in an airplane and fly over the horizon. stay intact - get a reward for exposing, you will be Copernicus of the 21st century. No - also not bad, they will enroll you forever in the heroes of NATO.
              2. Gray brother 22 November 2019 09: 41 New
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                Quote: krot
                It finally came to the Poles that the earth was round!

                They had problems with this because Poland cannot go into space.
            2. Alexey RA 20 November 2019 17: 24 New
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              Quote: Amurets
              "And keeps on three whales."

              This is an outdated hypothesis.
              It is well established that our world
              lies on the backs of four giant elephants that stand on the carapace of the huge tortoise A'Tuin
              smile
          2. Tiksi-3 20 November 2019 13: 57 New
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            Quote: Thrall
            The earth is flat!

            so in YouTube there is 100 evidence that the earth is flat !! wassat
            1. keeper03 20 November 2019 17: 09 New
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              Of course - it seems round because of the distortion of the lenses of the cameras and because the eye and pupil are round! laughing fellow good
              So C-400 fully possesses the declared characteristics! stop soldier yes
              1. Tiksi-3 20 November 2019 21: 02 New
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                Quote: keeper03
                it seems round because of the distortion of the lenses of the video cameras and because the eye and pupil are round

                so it does not matter))…. the sect order in any case minus !!
          3. iConst 20 November 2019 14: 03 New
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            Quote: Thrall
            The earth is flat!

            This is outdated information - the Earth is concave ... stop
            This was proved by our compatriot - socks and heels of shoes wear out faster than the entire sole, which means ....
          4. knn54 20 November 2019 14: 44 New
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            "Excuse me, but have I bent the Earth? No, it was done before you ..."
        2. Major Yurik 20 November 2019 14: 07 New
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          Quote: maxim947
          The author along the way only yesterday found out about the existing curvature of the planet and decided to make a mess ...

          Looks like something was noted at the whispers with the use of vodka, the invention of which, by the way, they also claim, since they reached the curvature of the Earth in the course of the boom! yes Be careful, panov, checking the capabilities of C-400 can sucks end for curious arrogant ...... negative
          1. mishaia_23 20 November 2019 22: 08 New
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            Should drink less
        3. Captain45 20 November 2019 14: 28 New
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          Quote: maxim947
          The author along the way only yesterday found out about the existing curvature of the planet and decided to make a mess ...

          Yes, God bless her, with earthly curvature, if only the author's brains did not twist at all, otherwise it was not far from the asylum.
        4. Chit 20 November 2019 16: 07 New
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          In fact, the fact that the curvature of the earth's surface exists and prevents Russian air defense from shooting down American Tomahawks in Syria could have been known to anyone back in April of the year 207.
          Russian military expert Mikhail Khodarenok then clearly explained how exactly the curvature mentioned interferes with the work of Russian air defense.
          1. Albert1988 20 November 2019 20: 35 New
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            Quote: Chit
            Russian military expert Mikhail Khodarenok then clearly explained how exactly the curvature mentioned interferes with the work of Russian air defense.

            Ogh, probably another landowner was searching out))))
            And the presence of such things as self-propelled guns AWACS "hodarenka" is not aware wink
          2. Gray brother 22 November 2019 09: 43 New
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            Quote: Chit
            earth curvature exists

            My dear friend, I want to inform you that the target has such a parameter as height.
      2. hrych 20 November 2019 13: 44 New
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        First ZGRLS Sunflower is not very overall, high factory readiness. And it does not work on the principle of reflection from the ionosphere (spatial wave), where a large radiation power is required, but on the principle of radio wave diffraction (surface wave). Those. when a radio wave goes around the surface along with the curvature of the earth and looks out over the horizon. This guidance was worked out in the Caspian, when the watchtowers departed for an air attack with their modest means, but knowing the direction and time of the attack from Sunflower. Therefore, the Poles are experts wassat In addition to the external target designation from Sunflowers, the S-400 also has an over-the-horizon missile, which, when rising, itself peers beyond the horizon. There are also aircraft and satellites AWACS.
    2. hydrox 20 November 2019 13: 29 New
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      There would be at least one propshek expert in the world who could point to at least one type (type, brand, brand ...) of weapons made (manufactured, constructed, researched ...), be it a gun (automatic machine gun, machine gun, carbine ...), airplane (helicopter, rocket, car, engine ...), radio engineering (electronic, cybernetic, optical ...) ...
      NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      N AND CHEGO, neither invented, nor built, did not let the world feel, nor did, except arrogance, meanness, treason, betrayal, irresponsibility, violation of this word ...
      YES WHAT IS THIS FOR AN ETHNOS SUCH GOD DAMNED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      1. PalBor 20 November 2019 13: 42 New
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        And the wings of the hussars? One wave - the street, the other - the lane ... And you say.
        1. hydrox 20 November 2019 13: 51 New
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          For some reason, it is thought that this is a misinterpretation ...
          It seems to me that this is something like a life-saving tool for the soul: the warrior is already dead, and then the battle, dump, noise, muskets, tears ... how can the soul calm down?
          So they came up with a means of salvation for the soul ... laughing
          1. hrych 20 November 2019 22: 09 New
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            Quote: hydrox
            There would be at least one propshek expert in the world

            In defense of the Poles. When Poland was torn (another section), the elite was torn. In particular, the Russian Empire also made money. Vernadsky, Chizhevsky, Sikorsky, Tsyolkovsky and Sakharov had Polish roots. Even Rokosovsky and we have overcome. Like the fearless hero of Borodino, Raevsky. And the commoners of Wojtyła, Walesa, etc. remained directly in Poland. Therefore, they couldn’t give the mountain any intelligible culture and science with technology. Although Oginsky was, the brilliant Jan Matejko is already in the little things. Although Matejko had Czech and German-Polish roots. And Chopin has Polish-French ...
            1. hydrox 20 November 2019 22: 17 New
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              I will not object, but this is offtopic and it is not about the brains (really good, high-quality), but about the complex of knowledge inherent in EXACTLY experts, i.e. narrow and often specialty analysts.
              And for a good offtopic and informative comment "in defense" I punish the plus. laughing
      2. Alien From 20 November 2019 13: 47 New
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        Psheki Susanin is waiting for a new one)))) Minister Lavrov is right as always ...))
      3. rocket757 20 November 2019 14: 05 New
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        Quote: hydrox
        didn't let the world feel

        Copernicus, it seems like he made a discovery on that territory ... again, GERMAN. But they then consider it for their own.
        She couldn’t do it anymore ... oh yes, after all, DAD was.
        1. Polite Moose 20 November 2019 16: 16 New
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          Quote: rocket757
          Copernicus, it seems like he made a discovery on that territory ... again, GERMAN. But they then consider it for their own.

          Mykola Kopernyak - German ?! Did that de vie taka bach? Win Shchiriy Ukrainian!
          1. rocket757 20 November 2019 16: 30 New
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            Quote: Polite Moose
            Quote: rocket757
            Copernicus, it seems like he made a discovery on that territory ... again, GERMAN. But they then consider it for their own.

            Mykola Kopernyak - German ?! Did that de vie taka bach? Win Shchiriy Ukrainian!

            This is something I ... missed! Svidomye him already ???
            And Giordano Bruno, Galileo Galilei, absolutely from somewhere under Konotop, probably?
        2. hydrox 21 November 2019 07: 11 New
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          And what is dad?
          This is a spiritual symbol and has no relation to the physical world.
          Probably, such “creeds” are also needed, and someone may need such “braces”, but this is definitely not the population of Russia.
          Liberoids, by their machinations against Russia, turned its population into harsh pragmatists (many even into cynics), but this is a symbol of the cure of faith introduced from outside ...
          1. rocket757 21 November 2019 07: 40 New
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            Quote: hydrox
            This is a spiritual symbol and has no relation to the physical world.

            The question of faith, the question is not simple ... if it is separate from the state, then there is no question.
            I do not believe that ministers of worship, religion, can right away, something super useful to bring to our people, in our situation.
            First, let the “feathers” of their angels be cleaned, or else they don’t have their “service to the people, the country,” something that arouses special trust in MOST of our people!
            1. hydrox 21 November 2019 07: 54 New
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              Well, yes.
              For too many of the spiritual fathers, Kruzak becomes a true “creed” ...
      4. Kettle 20 November 2019 16: 36 New
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        Although not an expert, especially “pro-Pshekowski”, for the sake of justice, one can recall the pre-war Polish 7TP tanks and TKS wedges that were good for their time, although they used the ideas of Vickers and Carden-Lloyd - and who did not use them then (T-26, T-27)?
        Own developments were some of the best PZL P.30 fighters for the beginning of the 11s, and Los bombers (about “some of the best” are not my opinion, the opinion of our military specialists), unlike any other in the mid-30s whom the scout bomber "Karas".
        After the war, of course, the unification of military equipment in the Warsaw Pact countries affected, but most of our landing ships were designed and built in Poland. Those same BDK 775 projects, which are now the basis of our landing fleet and without which it is difficult to imagine, for example, the “Syrian express” - of Polish origin.
        I dug into the source - and as always. The Polish article itself is written in detail, in a simple near-technical language, such as "Popular Mechanics", without malice and without peremptory, in contrast to the free retelling of the marquee here on Topwar.
        http://wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/wiadomosci/7,114881,25390408,taka-ciekawostka-rosyjska-bron-nie-jest-cudowna-dba-o-to-fizyka.html
        About S-400 and the curvature of the Earth and the height of the radar location it is written exactly the same as commented on by our military leadership about the well-known story of the S-300/400 as an "umbrella" over Syria and Tomahawks.
        Experts have repeatedly written about possible reserves in range from Iskander, including on Topvar.
        About the Patriot, as well as about the lag in electronics in the original, there is nothing at all - the author lied. Only about the systems of unified combat control of the air defense and missile defense systems of IBCS, which make it possible to solve the problem of curvature and detection range.
        In general, it’s understandable why articles are so rarely referenced ..
        1. rocket757 21 November 2019 07: 46 New
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          Quote: Kettle
          In general, it’s understandable why articles are so rarely referenced ..

          Quote: Kettle
          there is nothing in the original at all - the author lied.

          But this happens very often.
          We live on emotions, not wanting to understand the essence, the truth. We were told a "foe", even if he is one, everyone will blame him. Both ours and others.
          It is clear that he climbs from all sides, honest, truthful, in this “war” not to be found in the daytime with fire.
          Thank you ... but anyway, it’s normal for the Polish leadership to fail! We treat the Polish people ... in different ways, but the general background is negative.
      5. Galleon 20 November 2019 17: 38 New
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        Quote: hydrox
        YES WHAT IS THIS FOR AN ETHNOS SUCH

        Not true. They had Chopin.
        1. Polite Moose 20 November 2019 20: 11 New
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          Quote: Galleon
          Not true. They had Chopin.

          I hope they still have it. Full.
        2. hydrox 21 November 2019 07: 33 New
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          One Chopin for an entire ethnic group?
          It will not be enough!
    3. Pravodel 20 November 2019 14: 01 New
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      Exactly, and not only with the British, but also with the Arab, Mozambican, Filipino and with many more are combined.
      As you know, the Poles invented vodka, and therefore they are great specialists in it, advise all Anglo-Saxons on this issue. We, Russians, should stand and watch how Anglo-Saxons devour their vodka and wonder why no one is buying Russian vodka, and everyone has a crush on Polish vodka. Here you can only hear everywhere: Polish vodka - VO !, Russian - we do not know or buy at all. Similarly, with the S-400. We stand and watch how everyone buys the S-400 from the Poles, and our cars bypass.
    4. Valery Valery 20 November 2019 14: 02 New
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      Interesting! Is there anything Russian that the Poles might like ??
      1. Hunter 2 20 November 2019 14: 07 New
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        Quote: Valery Valery
        Interesting! Is there anything Russian that the Poles might like ??

        There is! The territory of Russia! Only to them - not Our land! angry
    5. Gerneton 21 November 2019 10: 44 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      Oh yes, great experts! They are now with the British, expert scientists, over the palm, before the cardinal, "fool"

      Well, when the great experts from Serbia praised, then most ears were hung up and requested supplements ... laughing
      and the Poles are worse?
      1. rocket757 21 November 2019 10: 52 New
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        Quote: Gerneton
        Well, when the great experts from Serbia praised, then most ears were hung up and requested supplements ...
        and the Poles are worse?

        No difference. Trained theoreticians can be anywhere ... in fact, even ours, who are exactly in the hens, what the system is capable of, do not say everything at once.
        Evaluation of these experts depending on preferences.
        Вон
        Quote: Kettle

        Kettle (Sergey) Yesterday, 16:36

        I wrote very interestingly and reasonably ... I will find and read the source.
        Because there is such an option that in an article on VO they wrote what they wanted, but this is not gut.
        1. rocket757 21 November 2019 11: 11 New
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          I READ ... the author does not ... we do not favor our propaganda, however, he does not quite love the western one either.
          The author points out inaccuracies in the data provided by our media, experts ... but "successfully" forgets that our intelligence is not limited to what he listed. This is a mistake or misrepresentation / lies, because it is impossible to not know such an EXPERT!
          Those. in the article on VO “the picture was underlined”, but not so completely, there is reason to doubt the objectivity of the Polish expert.
  2. svp67 20 November 2019 13: 14 New
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    The author questions the ability of S-400 air defense systems located in the Kaliningrad Region to hit aircraft in the Polish airspace
    Pan wants to check? If so, let him land himself with the target plane ...
    1. Honest Citizen 20 November 2019 13: 20 New
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      They took it straight off the tongue :) But, I suppose, the pan will not want to check, it’s scary, and then he will have to wash the underwear ... Although, if the pan gets on the plane, he won’t even leave a footcloth.
      1. Demon_is_ada 20 November 2019 15: 02 New
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        One great-powerful pan Kaczynski had already steered a plane and without any c400, his pine shot down, although before that the planes were quietly landing there yes
        1. Amurets 20 November 2019 23: 06 New
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          laughing lol laughing
          Quote: Demon_is_ada
          One great-powerful pan Kaczynski had already steered a plane and without any c400, his pine shot down,

          Do not confuse the SAM model. Shot down by an old SAM "Birch"

          And you attribute the newest "Pine". For me, Aspen would have been enough.
          1. Demon_is_ada 21 November 2019 00: 43 New
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            Excuse me hi confused a little, I'm not an anti-aircraft gunner recourse
            laughing
    2. Sergey39 20 November 2019 13: 24 New
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      Yes, they have enough of the Iskander. Anyway, we’ll throw hats! laughing
  3. bankirchik34 20 November 2019 13: 19 New
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    He even messed up what curvature of the earth is flat, isn't it?)
    1. bessmertniy 20 November 2019 13: 50 New
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      Precisely flat. It stands on three elephants that swim across the sea on a turtle. wassat
      1. Alexey RA 20 November 2019 17: 37 New
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        Quote: bessmertniy
        It stands on three elephants that swim across the sea on a turtle.

        At four. Or five.
        It is said that the fifth elephant arrived, screaming and blowing, through the atmosphere of the young world many, many years ago and fell so hard that it split the continents and erected mountains.
        In fact, no one saw him land, and therefore an interesting philosophical question arose: if millions of angry tons of elephants fall from the sky, but no one hears this, then, from a philosophical point of view, does this drop noise?
        And if no one saw him fall, did he really fall?
    2. Amurets 20 November 2019 13: 57 New
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      Quote: bankirchik34
      He even messed up what curvature of the earth is flat, isn't it?)

      Yes flat, flat. On three elephants lies. laughing
      Quote: bankirchik34
      He even messed up what curvature of the earth is flat, isn't it?)

      laughing laughing We need to chat about something tongue crying

  4. dvina71 20 November 2019 13: 20 New
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    Schizophrenia? The Iskander’s underestimated the S-400’s overestimated .. and there and there lamp tubes ..., both should be shit ..
    1. Military77 20 November 2019 13: 41 New
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      Quote: dvina71
      and there are lamp circuits

      I remembered the joke:
      The exhibition is held on achievements in computer technology. The newest processors from Intel with frequency 4.2 gigahertz, AMD Atlon 64, as well as the first processor of Zelenograd NGO "Electronics" are presented. Processors are tested on all parameters, and everywhere the domestic product is leading. Experts are shocked. Bring a powerful microscope, lay the processor. One expert peeps into the eyepieces and in a second falls into a faint. His colleague peeks and also faints. The commission is at a loss. The third expert looks at the microscope for a long time, and then, stuttering, says:
      - You will not believe! He's a tube!
  5. Sky strike fighter 20 November 2019 13: 20 New
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    The author questions the ability of S-400 air defense systems located in the Kaliningrad Region to hit planes in Poland’s airspace, and calls the declared range of the complex an advertising campaign aimed at a potential buyer, as well as intimidation of a potential enemy.

    The author judges the state of affairs with the purchased MIM-104 Patriot. But they do not judge by themselves.
    1. bessmertniy 20 November 2019 13: 51 New
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      He just fulfills his fees. He wants to live like a king on Amer’s handouts. negative
  6. Honest Citizen 20 November 2019 13: 24 New
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    Domestic microelectronics in control systems does not allow Russian systems to hit targets as accurately as, for example, the American anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) MIM-104 Patriot, adopted by the Polish army.

    You, the author, better tell the Saudis about the accuracy of hitting targets with a “patriot”. They will believe.
  7. YOUR 20 November 2019 13: 26 New
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    I would be very surprised if they liked this system, and Iskander in addition.
    Something lately too much attention to the noble panam.
    1. tihonmarine 20 November 2019 13: 48 New
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      Quote: YOUR
      Something lately too much attention to the noble panam.

      Since 2020, the EU subsidizes Poland and Tribaltam. So everyone runs ahead of the mare, maybe 10 silver coins will be thrown.
      1. YOUR 20 November 2019 13: 59 New
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        As if they would pay attention to it. The outpouring of loyal obeisances has no effect on finances. They repose favorably and twist the fig.
        1. tihonmarine 20 November 2019 16: 31 New
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          Quote: YOUR
          They repose favorably and twist the fig.

          In the EU they know how to count money.
    2. Paranoid50 21 November 2019 01: 04 New
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      Quote: YOUR
      lately too much attention to noble panas.

      Duc, a historical sign: as soon as Poland is very much heard, then obviously the business is going to the next section. yes
  8. The leader of the Redskins 20 November 2019 13: 26 New
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    Well, after the Chinese experts, the Polish, of course, the most-most ...
    1. 7,62h54 20 November 2019 14: 08 New
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      Vietnamese experts are gaining momentum
  9. Blue fox 20 November 2019 13: 28 New
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    Well, so-so expert opinion, but even if we take into account the statement that
    The masts that are part of the S-400 can raise the radar to a height of no more than 25 meters, which indicates that the complex is not able to "see" the declared distance.
    , then surprise targets await potential targets, since vehicles on combat duty in the RPM are driven up to a hill, natural or artificial, and get a plus of several meters to the mast height.
    1. dvina71 20 November 2019 13: 39 New
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      Quote: Blue Fox
      then surprise targets await potential targets, as vehicles on combat duty in the RPM are driven up to a hill, natural or artificial, and get a plus of several meters to the mast height.

      This makes sense for a HBO ... which works on low-flying KR .., planes fly much higher .. so the curvature does not work here .... LA is always higher, but if they stand on the ground or get to the place of BZ with wheels .. then the Polish esperd got to the point ..
      1. Alexey RA 20 November 2019 17: 40 New
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        Quote: dvina71
        planes fly much higher .. so the curvature does not work here ....

        As we have been taught, airplanes in the zone of the air defense system fly on small and criminally small ones (or hide behind the folds of terrain that obscure the radar sector). Fly at medium altitudes they were weaned back in the days of Vietnam and the Arab-Israeli.
        1. dvina71 20 November 2019 17: 44 New
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          Quote: Alexey RA

          As we have been taught, airplanes in the air defense zone

          Working area S-400 400km ...
          1. Alexey RA 20 November 2019 18: 34 New
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            Quote: dvina71
            Working area S-400 400km ...

            On large and medium.
            Already for targets at an altitude of 1000 m, the visibility range of a divisional radar (provided that the antenna is carried out to a height of 30 m) is reduced to 130-150 km.
            1. dvina71 20 November 2019 18: 50 New
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              Alexey .. we climb into theoretical debate with you ..on do we need? Explanatory air defense / missile defense is always complex .. long-range air defense systems will not stand in the first line, add 1l222 and the like ... In the area of ​​such an integrated air defense it is better to fly only your own ...
  10. loki565 20 November 2019 13: 30 New
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    Oh yeah, straight news from the next mega-expert on air defense))) what kind of air defense does Poland produce, or does it produce only air defense experts ???)))
  11. 7,62h54 20 November 2019 13: 30 New
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    Pshekov and no need to shoot down. They themselves fall on the Smolensk forest.
    1. tihonmarine 20 November 2019 13: 44 New
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      Quote: 7,62x54
      They themselves fall on the Smolensk forest.

      Somewhere around a kilometer of forest tumbled down. They destroy nature.
      1. 7,62h54 20 November 2019 14: 04 New
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        Roll out the bill for them to damage the birches and for reputation damage.
        1. tihonmarine 20 November 2019 16: 23 New
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          Roll out the bill for them to damage the birches and for reputation damage.

          Two years ago was (from the highway clearly visible) is still clearing.
      2. Amurets 20 November 2019 23: 17 New
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: 7,62x54
        They themselves fall on the Smolensk forest.

        Somewhere around a kilometer of forest tumbled down. They destroy nature.

        Write down penalties under the Green line and make you pay for the restoration of the planet’s green cover.
      3. Paranoid50 21 November 2019 01: 05 New
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        about a kilometer of forest tumbled down. They destroy nature.

        am am am Greta girls are not on them, ghouls. wassat
        1. tihonmarine 21 November 2019 09: 58 New
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          Greta girls are not on them, ghouls.

          Take Greta for rent for a week.
    2. Alien From 20 November 2019 13: 51 New
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      In our Smolensk forests, even birches cannot stand the jackal jackals ......
  12. gabonskijfront 20 November 2019 13: 35 New
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    The Poles even imagined those, they know everything, they are experts about everything, they really like to pretend to be smart.
  13. g1washntwn 20 November 2019 13: 35 New
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    Well, there’s two options here: either raise the S-400 radar, or Polish planes should fly "now-now" ... but better only by hangar. In my opinion, planes fly just above the curvature of the earth ... Either I don’t understand anything in aeronautics, or the Poles stopped fearing birches.
    1. Rzzz 20 November 2019 15: 08 New
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      Polish planes must fly "now-now."

      Fly optional. You need to fly a lot of kyrosin. And you can fall from the sky. The plane and wheels have it - that means the Polish plane can drive along the road. On a forest primer, bypassing border guards.
  14. Anatoly 288 20 November 2019 13: 35 New
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    They think so ... Well, that’s what we agreed on
  15. Aleksandre 20 November 2019 13: 36 New
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    And the pans thought that the cavalry and one and a half hundred light 7TP could stop the Germans.
  16. Pacifist 20 November 2019 13: 38 New
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    I look captain evidence visited Poland? Apparently he was drunk on this occasion and forgot about ARGSN missiles and AWACS aircraft. Sober up soberly.
  17. tihonmarine 20 November 2019 13: 41 New
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    Domestic microelectronics in control systems does not allow Russian systems to hit targets as accurately as, for example, the American anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) MIM-104 Patriot, adopted by the Polish army.
    Everything can be declared, and that the Earth is crooked, and the system is bad. To do this, try, take and try, C-400 will not knock you, you are right, but knock you down, we will serve a memorial service in a Christian way. So we chat less, we begin to act, C-400 is waiting for you.
  18. Ravil_Asnafovich 20 November 2019 13: 43 New
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    Who is listening to them ??? Psychoanalyst?
  19. marshes 20 November 2019 13: 46 New
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    In general, the earth is a Geoid, you can’t remember the spherical shape, if you remove the seas and oceans, it will not look quite smooth.
    Something like a huge asteroid.
    laughing Only probably to the evil Poles their country is on the flat side, maybe a reverse lens, the geoid is located. That horizon line is much further. laughing
  20. askort154 20 November 2019 13: 47 New
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    ".... does not allow Russian systems to hit targets as accurately as, for example, the American anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) MIM-104 Patriot, adopted by the Polish army."

    The task of the article in Gazeta is cheap Polish propaganda for domestic consumption, and along the way lick Uncle Sam's ass-Trump. yes
  21. Astronaut 20 November 2019 13: 47 New
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    In Poland, the Russian S-400 anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) was criticized.

    Well, darlings, there’s a plug from every barrel!
  22. 4ekist 20 November 2019 13: 49 New
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    Rotten apple experts, pshek in one word.
  23. Ru_Na 20 November 2019 13: 52 New
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    Oh yes, the great experts from Poland took the floor! The whole world must believe them, even if they do not create modern high-tech weapons, nevertheless, the Poles, as it turned out, are "better aware" of them than the creators themselves!
  24. shark 20 November 2019 14: 01 New
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    The Poles are not able to admit their worthlessness because of the curvature of the mind. In general, the Pole, it seems to me, becomes an abusive word. Signifying extremely bloated conceit and desire to climb more quickly under the host table
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    bar 20 November 2019 14: 15 New
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    In Poland, criticized the Russian anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) S-400

    Indian - Chinese experts arrived in the regiment laughing
  26. JD1979 20 November 2019 14: 18 New
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    Domestic microelectronics in control systems does not allow Russian systems to hit targets as accurately as, for example, the American anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) MIM-104 Patriot, adopted by the Polish army.

    Just as accurately as they hit drones in Saudi Arabia? Then yes, Poland is precisely protected))). If I don’t see it, it means nothing flies, and if something exploded, it can do it by itself.
  27. Sitearvi 20 November 2019 14: 36 New
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    Sick people, these Psheks, there is a 100 percent way to check, start some kind of apparatus and officially contact us with a request to bring it down and you will be convinced and we will check. And at the expense of curvature, we have a “brotherly” people, they’re not just digging out the sea if we ask.
  28. VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 20 November 2019 14: 37 New
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    What did Lenin call Poland? Political prostitute. I’ll pay to listen. Poland should tell us thanks for the liberation of Warsaw. We wanted to take her into the ring, and they raised their gaze .. I had to deploy troops. How many of our soldiers died. Actually, the government that saw in London at the direction of the British raised enthusiasm.
    1. Sapsan136 20 November 2019 15: 23 New
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      Even before Lenin, Poland in the EU was called the << Capitalist country without capital >> and treated accordingly
  29. Lesorub 20 November 2019 14: 54 New
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    Russian S-400 air defense system criticized in Poland

    Not having one - to criticize someone else’s is so modern now - Poland keeps up with the trend!
  30. Zaurbek 20 November 2019 14: 55 New
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    Advertising, the engine of progress! Want to check fly close.
  31. sergo1914 20 November 2019 15: 08 New
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    So they are right. The complex cannot see. He has no eyes. What is Syr Bor?
  32. Rzzz 20 November 2019 15: 11 New
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    As recent tests by the Arabs have shown, the patriot is so cool that he can get not only on planes, but even where there are no planes. American technology !!!
  33. faterdom 20 November 2019 15: 20 New
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    We are very worried about what Poland thinks about us ...
    Right after Honduras, he is the first, in priority, so to speak. But then - immediately Poland!
    1. Lelek 20 November 2019 20: 16 New
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      But then - immediately Poland!

      hi
      Nope. Then Limpopo with a bloody Aibolit, and only then the opinion of a powerful neighbor who, it turns out, has not yet disappeared. bully
  34. Sapsan136 20 November 2019 15: 21 New
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    If the country that had it armed with its air defense made a statement about the worthlessness of the S-400 air defense system, it would be worth listening to, and the screams of Poland’s sick Russophobia, which is working out loans from the USA with its cries, are ridiculous to read
  35. evgen1221 20 November 2019 15: 42 New
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    And what kind of woodpeckers are such expert statements designed for? Customers spending such money on an air defense system do not heed such a thing. The question remains, who is listening to such nonsense?
  36. Alexander Galaktionov 20 November 2019 15: 48 New
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    Domestic microelectronics in control systems does not allow Russian systems to hit targets as accurately as, for example, the American anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) MIM-104 Patriot, adopted by the Polish army. lol MIM-104 Patriot has already shown itself in Saudi Arabia
    1. vladcub 20 November 2019 17: 06 New
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      In CA different curvature of the earth
  37. Charik 20 November 2019 16: 30 New
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    but you can shoot down satellites with Polish apples
  38. Charik 20 November 2019 16: 35 New
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    the same thing with the S400-Russians underestimated range, that would only cover Poland
    1. Amurets 20 November 2019 23: 38 New
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      , that would only Poland cover

      Who is flattered by this old whore? Is that the United States and will die and quit
  39. Reserve buildbat 20 November 2019 16: 45 New
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    Something to me this "expert opinion" was VERY reminiscent of the fable "Fox and Grapes" ... laughing
    1. Amurets 20 November 2019 23: 29 New
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      Something to me this "expert opinion" was VERY reminiscent of the fable "Fox and Grapes" ... laughing

      "He sees the eye, but the tooth is numb." tongue tongue laughing laughing
  40. vladcub 20 November 2019 17: 04 New
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    "cast doubt on the ability. C400, located in the Kaliningrad region, to hit planes in the airspace of Poland" want to check?
  41. Berkut24 20 November 2019 17: 24 New
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    Just because an expert spat on poison does not mean that the world has become safer for him.
  42. Alexey RA 20 November 2019 17: 49 New
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    It is interesting if Polish experts say that 2x2 = 4, commentators will rush to refute this too? wink

    In fact, the problem of the radio horizon for the ADMS DD has been around for a long time, and it is well known. And at HE it was repeatedly discussed in relation to air defense of ships based on air defense systems, in which, when working on low-flying targets, the radius is reduced to about 40 km. Further, the air defense missile defense radar simply does not see this target - it is for him beyond the horizon.
    On land, the matter is further complicated by the folds of the terrain, obscuring the sectors of the divisional radar.
    The only way for an air defense system to work beyond the horizon is to use an active missile launcher with an active radar, which will provide correction of their path according to data from external sources (those that see the target). That is, the task of the division’s control cabin in this case is to obtain data about the target “outside”, develop correction commands, transfer them to the missile defense and bring these missile defense teams to an area of ​​1-2 km from the target in which it will capture the target of its ARLGSN.
  43. SPB.RU 20 November 2019 19: 09 New
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    This expert is not aware that the S-400 is integrated, but do they see radar stations thousands of kilometers beyond the horizon? :)
  44. Romanenko 20 November 2019 19: 54 New
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    To school, everybody to school, USEshniks are Pshekovo, dumb and illiterate.
    Or maybe it is better for us, firstly, there are flaws in modern education, there is nothing to copy from there - there are some results. And secondly, let them think that the S-400 radar can only see in a straight line, if something happens, wean it from stupidity.
    At their expense.
  45. Lelek 20 November 2019 20: 11 New
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    (The masts available in the S-400 can raise the radar to a height of no more than 25 meters, which suggests that the complex is not able to "see" the declared distance.)

    And you take a chance. Donate a couple of eroplanes, try to break the border. As for the detection range, then listen less blah blah aunt Zosi. bully
  46. Ivan Ivanov 20 November 2019 22: 33 New
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    So what is the bottom line? Hot breath of the Russian bear on the neck or blind anti-aircraft systems?
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  48. Andrey Zhapov 21 November 2019 07: 41 New
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    Interesting guys. Electronics with respect to the S-400 is worthless, but for the Iskander it means very good? Aw, guys-glade, grenades means different systems than. No words, just drooling.
  49. Evil echo 21 November 2019 17: 16 New
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    [quote] Russian anti-aircraft missile systems are based on Soviet and Russian electronics, significantly lagging behind the American [/ quote]
    Because of this, the garden was piled up, and the Iskander finally does not bullet beyond line of sight. Sleep peacefully gentlemen.
  50. bbss 21 November 2019 17: 52 New
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    For the Polish winged hussars, the S-400 (as well as the S-500) is not dangerous ... It's just that they are no more. Some experts remained.