Su-33 with "Admiral Kuznetsov" will conduct training in the Crimea on a thread

The ground test and training complex NITKA, located in the Crimea, will be closed for repairs after training on it by crews of aircraft from the 279th separate naval fighter aviation regiment (OKIAP) marine aviation Northern fleet. This was reported by TASS with reference to a source in the power structures of the peninsula.

According to the news agency, in the third decade of December, Su-33 and Su-25UTG planes should arrive on the peninsula to conduct training at NITK. The exact data of the arrival of aircraft from the 279 OKIAP depends on weather conditions on the flight route. After that, the pilots will begin to conduct take-off and landing trainings on the take-off deck of the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier cruiser.

It is expected that two Su-33 fighters and one Su-25UTG aircraft will fly from a permanent airfield to the Crimea at the end of this - beginning of next week. The exact dates depend on weather conditions on the flight route. After that, the pilots of the regiment will begin training on takeoffs and landings at the NITKA complex

- leads TASS source words.

This October, for the first time in its stories NITK trained crews of MiG-29K / KUB fighters from the 100th OKIAP of the Northern Fleet's naval aviation, previously only the pilots of the 279 OKIAP were trained in Saki.

After the Su-33 and Su-25UTG trainings are over, the NITKA ground test and training complex will be closed for repairs, which will be carried out by the Zvyozdochka ship repair center. Most likely, takeoff and landing blocks (catapult and aerofinisher) will be subject to repair.

Comments

[Ros 56]

A necessary matter, while "Kuzya" is under repair, the pilots must still be in uniform.

[Greg Miller]

Oh, it seems to me that "Kuzya" is done ... Unfortunately, there are no plans for its repair, no timing, no future for this ship ... There is only THREAD in the Crimea and its analogue near Yeisk ...

[gabonskijfront]

Kuzyu must be preserved, despite the fact that he was at the repair site and will be more than at sea. People and their experience are most important.

[Greg Miller]

It is necessary, but how to do it? The only floating dock suitable for "Kuzi" - sank ... And not one sank, but with propellers from "Kuzi", and without them it is not a ship, but a barge ...

[Laksamana besar]

For him, two dry docks in one are connected at the 35th shipyard, they promise at 2020th to finish these works, as of course it will not be known of course.

The first ever landing of the Su-27K on deck, 1 on November 1989:

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: Laksamana Besar

For him, two dry docks in one are connected at the 35th shipyard, they promise at 2020

11 November, 35-th SRH. Excavator breaks the jumper between the docks. According to Rakhmanov, the dry dock construction at the 35 shipyard is on schedule, currently 38% of the planned work has already been completed. OSK does not have any fears that the construction schedule will be disrupted.

Quote: Greg Miller

Moreover, not one sank, but with propellers from the "Kuzi", and without them, he is not a ship, but a barge ...

PD-50 drowned during the dock operation. Information about the presence of removed screws in the floating dock due to the planned dive of the PD-50 is most likely not true.
https://topwar.ru/163521-ob-obstojatelstvah-gibeli-plavuchego-dvuhbashennogo-doka-pd-50.html

[Crimean partisan 1974]

The only floating dock suitable for "Kuzi" - sank ... not the only one. there are similar docks in Kerch (Crimea), they remained from the days of the Soviets, they served ships with deadwood 4 times more than Kuzi

[Givi_49]

You have a typo. Deadwood and deadweight are different things.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

You have a typo. .... byvat, often and thickly. I'm not on the exam. therefore, I can afford it, everyone understood the main idea

[Nycomed]

Have they been repaired? Somewhere there was infa that the Su-33 had already worked out a resource. Maybe at first they’re not in Crimea, but in KNAPO?

[Alexga]

Who knows, is there really a catapult on "Kuznetsov"?

[Nycomed]

No, it could not be. D.F. Ustinov, at one time, banned the design of ships with an ejection launch. The motivation is simple - a complete lack of experience on this issue.

[Alexga]

I was confused by this: "NITKA ground test and training complex will be closed for repairs, which will be carried out by specialists of the Zvezdochka Ship Repair Center. Most likely, the take-off and landing blocks (catapult and aerofinishers) will be subject to repair."

[Nycomed]

There is a springboard and an air arrestor. That is, what is on the "Kuza".

[Alexga]

You are absolutely right, it is the springboard, it is strange that the author used the term catapult. Thank you for the clarification.

[jaroff]

Actually, there is a catapult on NIUTK. Since Soviet times. Yes, they did not put a catapult on TAKR, but the tests with it were carried out precisely in Saki.

[Avior]

There is a catapult on Thread. But the planes never took off from it, only the carts were dispersed for testing

In the original project, the “ground carrier” consisted of three main blocks. The BS-1 unit as a part of the technological steam catapult (subsequently figured as an “accelerating device”) and premises for three air finishers served scientific and test purposes. In literature, this block is sometimes referred to in terms of external similarity as the “Hammer”, and the systems placed on it are united by a common functional term - the Svetlana-Mayak complex. The assignment of positions for the three finishers was distributed as follows: the tested finisher C-2 (C-2H) was mounted at the first position, the C-23 emergency barrier finisher was placed at the second position, and the third place was reserved for the safety finisher. The BS-1 complex also allowed to test various designs of catching networks - an emergency barrier for emergency landings. It was planned to place on the BS-3 block an exhausted version of the C1-M steam catapult for launching promising aircraft towards the sea.

The further fate of this important object was most negatively affected by intrigues and contradictions between the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the command of the Navy: Chief of the General Staff for Maritime Affairs, Admiral N. Amelko (former deputy S. Gorshkov) - an implacable opponent of the construction of full-sized aircraft carriers, on the one hand, and Commander-in-Chief of the Navy, Admiral S. Gorshkov, on the other. And the ban on working on a catapult launch aircraft called into question the very presence of a catapult on the complex, and only simple juggling with terms (the S-1 bow catapult was renamed the “booster device”) saved the very idea of ​​creating a domestic catapult and kept the hope of the employees of the Central Scientific Research Institute of Ship Engineering (TsNIISM, Leningrad) under the leadership of the chief designer Bulgakov Anatoly Andreyevich, who eventually created the first domestic steam catapult for the NITKA training ground.

https://www.aviapanorama.ru/2014/12/o-tom-chto-prevrashhaet-palubu-v-vpp-vzlyotno-posadochnye-sistemy-avianoscev-2/
Ustinov banned the catapult, since Yakovlev assured Ustinov that the VTOL aircraft was ready and would be no worse than an ejection launch fighter.
A little later, the general designer of OKB them. Sukhoi M. Simonov told the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy S. Gorshkov after taking off on a Thread Su-27K: “My catapult is not needed for the plane.”
Each pulled a blanket on his design bureau.
But Ulyanovsk still designed with catapults

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Nycomed

with ejection launch. The motivation is simple - a complete lack of experience on this issue.

Pretty strange motivation. Experience comes in the process. No process and experience will ever be.
This is not like Ustinov, - the Minister of Stalinist training.

[Nycomed]

This is exactly what happened. On "Zvezda" they often show a d / f on this topic. For what he bought, as they say.

[Avior]

In early 1980, the chief designer of the Design Bureau named. Yakovleva assured Minister of Defense D.F. Ustinova, that "close to completion is the creation of a new SKVP (short take-off and vertical landing aircraft), surpassing all existing and promising foreign fighters." This was followed by fateful decisions, one of which hit the concept TAVKR project 1143.5. Deputy Chief of the General Staff, Admiral N. Amelko blocked the initiative of the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy, Admiral S. Gorshkov, to increase the displacement of the future ship and bring the composition of the air group to 52 aircraft. Enough is written about the unseemly activity of Admiral N. Amelko in confronting Admiral S. Gorshkov, for example, in the memoirs of the senior builder of the 705 order (NITKA), subsequently the senior builder of the 106 order (Tavkr "Varyag") Seredin Aleksey Ivanovich.

The Directive of the General Staff, signed by D. Ustinov, said about the reorientation of the air group of the designed "five" under the air defense system and the rejection of an ejection launch.

[Nycomed]

And what does "Stalin's tempering" have to do with it? And the Yak-38 is an absolutely useless aircraft that claimed the lives of a large number of pilots, which was designed for these ships, is this also "hardening"?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Nycomed

And what does "Stalin's tempering" have to do with it? And the Yak-38 is an absolutely useless aircraft that claimed the lives of a large number of pilots, which was designed for these ships, is this also "hardening"?

Yeah, everyone was against Yak, and only Ustinov was in favor, and the plane was adopted.

[kit88]

Here's something, but the Yak-38 for "these" ships was definitely not designed. Where did you see the Yak-1153 on avenue 1160, 38?

[Avior]

He believed Yakovlev that he would create a VTOL aircraft no worse than a catapult fighter.

[Rostislav Prokopenko]

The telegram channel "The Look of a Man in Epaulettes" was smashed by the 279th regiment ... it hurt to read.
Probably we still need one aircraft carrier - like to show a flag, but personally it seems to me that a missile cruiser can show a more impressive flag.
Here is a striking example - and I want and prick ...

[Vyacheslav Tsukanov]

Was in Saki all October. He lived a kilometer from Novofedorovka. Well done flyers! Take-off and landing all day. But sometimes they showed aerobatics. Impressed!

[midshipman]

He participated in the creation of this simulator in Saki. Our enterprises of the USSR Ministry of Radio Industry equipped NIUTKA with navigation and landing systems and radar facilities.