Results of the week. East is a delicate matter

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Part I. "We have long arms"

Tremble, slanderer! ..

Friday the thirteenth. It was on this day that the State Duma, elected, as we all remember, not without complaints from a decent percentage of Russians, closed its first session, the ending of which also turned out to be ambiguous, to say the least. Not that the approaching date correlated with the hell dozen, not the proximity of the long-awaited vacation, or perhaps the Moscow heat, which was transformed into heavy rainfall and real flood, forced the deputies to work in an emergency mode and enforce such laws, from which some they jumped in joyous euphoria, others began to pick the tabletop with their fingernails, and others, shouting “mind you!”, were closing in their opposition cellars.



In addition to the law on NGOs, a bill on the return of an article on libel from the Administrative Code to the Russian Criminal Code provoked a mixed reaction, with the possibility of punishing slanderers in the form of serious (million) fines. Many deputies who voted against this bill declared that a new era of “tightening the screws”, an era of “hello, authoritarianism”, etc., is coming.

It is not entirely clear, whether a certain percentage of our legislators themselves sinner with weakness, excuse me, or slander at their closest opponents, or is it just such a trend - to disagree.

According to the established tradition of recent times, our old acquaintance Lyudmila Alekseeva again declared herself in her entire voice. At first, she expressed herself in the spirit of saying that the quotation “United Russia is cowardly and ridiculous,” and then decided to organize her own opposition demarche in the form of statements that her honorable Moscow Helsinki group decided to reject foreign grants altogether. So that’s the case ... Now Ludmila Mikhailovna will probably remain at the dinner table: if there is bread, then no butter, if tea is sugarless, if the legs are, then without ... Bush.

It is obvious that after such words of the honored opposition actress of Russia with an American passport, United Russia, if they were cowardly and ridiculous, then they became courageous and even self-confident. Like, if our bills helped twist the great-grandmother of the national protest Lyudmila Alekseev to the steering wheel, then we are now in general hoo ...

In general, they coped with the great-grandmother, but they could, as befits younger people, translate it in a Timur way across the road (across the Atlantic) and help bring her string bag (good, overworked to those foreign grants for not too much). human rights activities).

Now it is worth expecting that the domestic courts will be, as in the times of these, overwhelmed with cases of slander, because even the opposition has a real opportunity to avenge the United Russia army for the adopted laws. Now some Boris Nemtsov will come to his home, and his neighbor, United Russia: Boris, you have a white back. Haha ... Well, let 1 be in the yard in the courtyard ... And Boris will be silent, he will not even laugh at all, and then he will go to his apartment and roll a statement saying that he is slander using his official position. And bang, the United Russia joker is already counting a million rubles into the 2 state budget, since Boris Nemtsov’s back could not be just white, but also fluffy ...

Service is not a burden

In Russia, there continues the race of ideas on how to eradicate hazing in the ranks of the Armed Forces. It seems that the service life has already been reduced to twelve months, and the military prosecutor’s office seems to have obliged the adepts of non-commissioning in the Russian army to punish harder, but, you see, dedovshchina as a tireless weed, continues to rustle in the Russian army. Of course, not so eagles anymore, as it was even 15-20 years ago, but nonetheless.



In the search for methods of fighting hazing in the army, even the people who are directly related to the army decided to check in. These people turned out to be Ural businessmen, namely the collective of the Chelyabinsk Pipe Rolling Plant, who decided to send conscripts to the army (factory workers), as the journalist “Izvestia” put it, “turnkey”.

They collect, it means, recruits, factory workers at the assembly point, put on shoes, put on, put in passenger transport, take to the gate of the nearest military unit, where officers, ready to forge new military personnel for the country, are already waiting for new recruits.

Judging by the plans that Chelyabinsk businessmen announced, the factory workers will feel at home in this military unit. On weekends, if they are not too busy in defense of the Fatherland, they can go home, after dinner they can take their mobile phones and talk about the charms of military life. And at the same time, employers-workers watch how the recruits in the military unit include: feed, water, blow off dust particles from their ironed out over the weekend with the help of caring mothers uniforms, wash outsourcing for them and stuff like that.

It seems to be happy for such an approach to the organization of the army service. But, excuse me for my modest opinion, this approach painfully reminds me not of serving in the Russian army, but as a kind of greenhouse, from where good, good-quality vegetables will come.

I want to believe that the author has gone far in his delusions, but still the worm of some doubt about the greenhouse conditions of military service does not leave the apple of emotion from the proposed method.

Due to the fact that today many people want to find an option to fight hazing (from the Minister of Defense to the directorate of the tube rolling mills), it’s worthwhile to offer your own version.

This option is as follows: you do not need to take a recruit anywhere from home. The unit commander himself must come to him, solemnly take the oath and hand a machine gun to the young soldier, which the mother of the fighter, brushing away tears of tenderness from his eyes from pride in his son, should carefully wrap in a terry towel and put on the bottom shelf of the linen closet, inscribing a white paint on the door "ShHO", I mean the storage cabinet weapons. Once a week, a soldier himself must attend a bath (you can have a sauna, you can have a VIP-sauna) and every day must wait for a car delivering soldiers' breakfasts, lunches and dinners (sushi, rolls) straight to the house in order to somehow survive all the military service . Well, if the Russians come to the Russian land, then the soldier must get an automatic from the cabinet, take a hidden position under the bed and clasp his head with his hands, lie quietly without moving - perhaps they will pass by ... During this time, the mother and father of the fighter should prepare their child the demobilized album and parade uniform, so that at the end of the 100-dnevka the fighter could walk along the streets of the city and, looking at his stripes, remember which troops he served in. All - demobilization! The education of the man and husband took place! And no hazing to you.

Were there any gifts? ..

This week Vladimir Putin’s working visit to Ukraine took place. It was planned that Putin and Yanukovych will discuss the notorious gas issues, as well as the possibility of Ukraine joining the Customs Union, which already includes, besides Russia, Kazakhstan and Belarus.

Many viewed Putin’s trip as a kind of support for the policy of Viktor Yanukovych by the Russian president. During the working meetings, it was possible to agree on reciprocal state visits of the leaders of the two countries in the current and next years.



It would seem a trip like a trip. We met, talked, discussed well-known issues, but it didn’t work without nuances. After the Putin-Yanukovich meeting in Yalta, the media wanted (especially, of course, oppositional) immediately declared that the Russian president gave Ukraine almost the entire Kerch Strait. Like, oh, he is so-and-so-yielded to the pressure of the Ukrainians and decided to give Kiev a whole Tuzla from the master's shoulder.

The Russian opposition managed to be noted, to put it mildly, with original headlines in newspapers and online publications. Here are some of them: “Putin gave Ukraine the entire Kerch Strait,” “Putin gives Tuzla to Ukraine today, and tomorrow the Kuriles of Japan.” In general, literally everyone who had time to inform about the “gift” of Putin.

However, when official information reached the readers, it turned out that there was no delimitation of borders, no documents were signed in Yalta, no generous gifts to Kiev (such as the Kerch Strait or gas for 100 dollars per thousand cubic meters), too and did not fix.

After such information, violent oppositionists, including the Kiev ambassador, needed another sensation. And it was quickly found by the head of the Emergencies Ministry of Ukraine, Mr. Baloga. He criticized the Russian president for the fact that he was late for a meeting with the Ukrainian leader, drove first to the biker camp, and then to a handshake with Viktor Yanukovych. Viktor Baloga said that this “shook the hospitable Ukrainians.” Apparently, Mr. Minister himself waited so much for Vladimir Putin's arrival that he ate all the bread and salt, smoked a single pack of cigarettes, sketched cigarette butts on the red carpet, burned it in seventeen places, which caused an emergency situation all over Ukraine.

It is not known for certain whether the Ukrainian authorities have decided to take revenge on Vladimir Vladimirovich for being late, or the refusal of an invitation to join the Customs Union, the Ukrainian leader did prepare in advance. In general, the presidents' press service reported that no agreement was reached on this issue either.

Apparently, being completely disappointed with the result of Putin’s visit to Ukraine, the active Minister of Emergency Situations called the meeting between the presidents “degreased.” This formulation gives food for thought about the fact that Baloga himself expected at least 3,2% fat content from Putin's agreements with Yanukovych, but he ended up getting zero-sum ... Indeed, the situation is more than an emergency for the minister ...

Saakashvili will arrest satellite dishes

While the Russian State Duma is trying to fight bad information from the Internet and armies of slanderers in the territory of the Russian Federation, the Georgian authorities have decided far to go. The parliament of one of the most successfully democratized countries of the United States decided to arrest ... satellite dishes, which recently, according to lawmakers, have appeared too much on the homes of ordinary Georgian citizens. The deputies decided that a normal Georgian citizen does not need to use satellite antennas, because the good words of Mikhail Saakashvili can be heard, as well as to see the most blissful, with the help of the main Georgian TV channels.



It is worth saying that satellite antennas in Georgia began to be arrested, and fines were imposed on their owners after the prosecutor's office saw that these antennas were handed out to ordinary Georgians, the main enemy of Mikhail Nikolozovich, literally from their worn hands. Where are Ivanishvili, according to the developed Georgian authorities, there is the long arm of Russia, the paws of the FSB, the Putin-Medvedev threat and all in the same spirit ...

You can imagine how the bailiffs, who noticed the satellite antenna hiding behind the owner’s drying underwear, knock on the house of an ordinary Georgian citizen and say: your antenna is arrested. This is how freedom of speech is in Georgian ... And we still say something to our legislators ...

If everything in Georgia continues further along the same path, then arrests of toilet bowls and Russian-made boilers may begin soon, and the authorities will impose a non-synchronous translation from Mikhail Saakashvili himself on the First Channel with commentaries on the events taking place in the “aggressor” country.

Now the average Georgian citizen wants to eat lobio or chakhokhbili from his favorite plate, and what he proves is that it is not a satellite ... Therefore, one should expect that in the near future the riders of the Apocalypse from Mikhail Saakashvili will dart around the basements of Georgian houses to find radio receivers tuned on the Russian frequencies (on Radio Dacha, for example). And if they find it, they will arrange a fire on the central square of Tbilisi from plates, receivers and boilers, which were fingerprinted by Bidzina Ivanishvili.

Part II. Equality to America!

Trio from the east

The imminent withdrawal of the main US forces from Afghanistan gave rise to some financial expectations in three former Soviet republics at once: Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, and Kyrgyzstan. To diplomatically indicate readiness for friendship with America, these three countries in a subtle oriental style hinted to Russia that its time was gone. Three capitals gave Moscow to understand that it is about to lose in a strategic struggle.



Tajiks decided tothat staying on their territory of the 201 of the Russian military base should annually bring to the treasury a tidy sum of 250 million dollars. And not just 250 millions, but "no less than." (Now Russia uses the base in exchange for the supply of military equipment to Tajikistan). Dushanbe also believes that the 49 years of renting a base for Russia is a lot. Enough and 10, but we'll see.

The Tajiks seem to have put the question squarely: either the Americans settle down on their territory (after all, Tajikistan borders on Afghanistan), or Russia will start to pay exorbitant money for the deployment of the 201 base. Yes, exorbitant: after all, for renting a larger and more high-tech base in Sevastopol, Ukraine receives from Russia 89 million dollars.

Dushanbe, however, is not sure on 100% and even on 10% that Americans are going to master undeveloped Tajikistan. The fact is that the Americans themselves have not yet decided. That is why Dushanbe’s negotiations with Moscow on the lease of the base, which were supposed to end in the first quarter of 2012, have not ended. The Eastern side of the negotiations pulls time, waiting for the transit decision of America.

In early June, 2012, it became known that NATO freight transit would go through the countries of Central Asia. The North Atlantic Alliance has concluded agreements with Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan on the use of their territories for the export of equipment and military equipment from Afghanistan. About it said NATO Secretary General himself. Anders Fogh Rasmussen said that the alliance will receive "new opportunities and reliable transport network."

Tajikistan was not on this transit list, but there were Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan.

Unlike thinking Tajikistan, which the States do not really value, Uzbekistan acts more openly. The geopolitical swings "back and forth" have long since become familiar to the local pendulum of power and can be predictable: closer to America and the West, farther from Russia.

As soon as it became clear that the Pentagon would need bases in Central Asia for the foreseeable future, democracy in Uzbekistan was rapidly beginning to improve and human rights began to gain momentum.

28 June Tashkent sent a note to the CSTO Secretariat to suspend its participation in the activities in the organization. This is the second exit of the Uzbeks from the CSTO, which could have been predicted even in the autumn of 2011, when Hillary Clinton, meeting Eler Ganiev, the Uzbek foreign minister, was unequivocally saidthat Uzbekistan now "shows signs of improving human rights and expanding political freedoms," and the US Senate Appropriations Committee approved a law that allowed America to give Uzbekistan money to buy military equipment.

In such a position, when you lure from America and are listed in its democratic friends, Russia is already of little interest.

This week the media reported that the eastern bargaining with Russia was opened by the Kirghiz. The lease term of the test base of anti-submarine armaments of the Russian Navy, the 338 th communications center of the Russian Navy and the seismic point of service of the special control of the Russian Defense Ministry expires in 2014. Not tomorrow, of course, but in anticipation of the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan, which will happen at the end of the same 2014 of the year, it is already possible to dictate new conditions to Russia.

These new conditions outlined the other day, the head of the Ministry of Defense of Kyrgyzstan Taalaibek Omuraliev: “Inflation in the yard is growing by leaps and bounds, everything is going up. Proceeding from this, we asked the Russian side to raise the rent in the order of allocation in cash. ”

The position is simple and clear: you have to pay a lot, and in cash.

Under the old arrangements of 1993-1994, Moscow was not obligated to pay for the agreement with “live” money. Instead of rent, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation undertook to train military specialists for Kyrgyzstan and provide the Kyrgyz army with equipment. However, since 2008, these obligations by the Russian side not performed. However, in March 2012, the Russian Ministry of Defense reported on the repayment before Kyrgyzstan of debt in 15,5 million dollars.

Kyrgyzstan, like Tajikistan, still pulls. “Cash” - this sounds proudly, but Bishkek, like a lazy, bad student, standing at the blackboard and afraid of the teacher, wants to hear a hint all the time. But America is not in a hurry to tell, wanting to defeat Losers.

That is why Omuraliev did not say how much Russia will have to pay for the rent of military facilities. “Manas” is “Manas”, and in the case of the recent transit through Pakistan, the Americans have, from which (or rather, from whom) they choose.

All three allies of Russia in the CSTO have forgotten that if they have chosen America as their allies and breadwinners, then she, my dear, will choose someone. For example, Tajikistan may remain with nothing. If Washington needs Dushanbe, it is unlikely that the US would welcome Tajik masons of the 2 category and lawn mowers in the same way as hospitable mother Russia does.

"And we call ourselves the human race?"

3-4 minutes - and half the world will cover the nuclear fungi. It is only the formidable American president to give the order. Moreover, the president will not be allowed to think long for a “button”: a deadline for thinking about the fate of humanity - 13 minutes. A few minutes after the head of the American state issues an order, the nuclear-armed missiles on alert are rushing towards their targets.



The newly elected presidents, informed about the “rule of 13 minutes”, were surprised and horrified. It seemed to them that this was simply unthinkable. "And we call ourselves the human race?" - so commented at one time "thirteen minutes" by john kennedy.

Proponent of world nuclear disarmament, Barack Obama, having come to power, did not change the apocalyptic rule. AT Washington Post They write: what if some rocket flew by chance? And if it was started by intruders? What if - a bad connection with the satellite?

Imagine how Leon Panetta or Martin Dempsey whispered to a worried president, Nobel Peace Prize winner 2009 of the year: “Mr. Obama, you have three minutes ... One and a half minutes ... Forty-five seconds ... Think faster, buddy Barak! Press this damn button !! Destroy Moscow! Beijing! Damascus! California! California? .. Damn, the lieutenant again introduced the contour map into the computer! ”

Today, two decades after the end of the Cold War, third US strategic forces, including almost all land-based missiles and some sea-based, are on alert.

Why would America with a peace-loving president lead such an aggressive rule? Here is the retired General James Cartwright, the former vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, She urged to rethink this rule. For example, it would be possible to extend the time for making a decision on the launch of nuclear missiles. The general offered and the interval: 24-72 hours.

But Obama, who as president of the country will have to sign a military instruction with the “13 minutes rule” in the coming weeks, is not likely to change anything. General Robert Koehler, Commander of US Strategic Forces, believesthat it is impossible to remove missiles from combat duty.

В Washington Post, of course, they know why America will not change its main terrible rule and will not remove the rocket from combat duty: after all, Russia is doing the same. Although China does not keep missiles on alert ... But America and Russia, who still see each other as strategic opponents, are keeping on combat duty over 1.800 nuclear missile warheads.

As for Barack Obama, he will save and sign the instruction simply because in the fall there is an election in the USA. The change in the “13 minutes rule” will cause a surge of discontent with the president and another loud statement by Mitt Romney and the entire Republican party that Russia is the geopolitical enemy number one and that Obama is secretly cooperating with the Kremlin: perhaps in his closet at home even the form of the KGB agent is. Mr. President will lose rating, and Mitt Romney will come to power in America. And this last one will shorten 13 minutes to 1 minutes.

So do not think that Comrade Obama is not a peace-loving president ...

Made in China

In America, buying an American product is not so easy. Only 15% of things sold in the United States are made in this very United States, and 85% done somewhere else. Because of this state of affairs, an open economy, which in a democratic and cosmopolitan state, burning with hatred of the “iron curtains”, has always been celebrated.



However, this week, the gentlemen from the Congress for some reason did not like that the dress uniform for the national Olympic team was sewn in China. “The National Olympic Committee should be ashamed. I think they should collect all this form, put it into one big pile, burn it and start all over again ", - said Democratic senator Gary Reid reporters.

Mr. G. Reed would have thought before speaking. Fold the form into a pile, burn it, and then order the Chinese again? Certainly, the leader of the democratic majority of the Senate is bad with both logic and rhetoric. It's bad for him and with knowledge of the basics of the world economy. It seems that he is also not aware of the fact that the Olympic uniform for American athletes, developed by the same design company Ralph Lauren, was sewn in China before. Orders were placed in the PRC because sewing there half the price. Do not hesitate, for example, Australian Department of Defense order shoes for their army in China. And it's nothing that the front boots of the military are unstuck and fall apart.

Obviously, suspecting that there were only designers, fashion designers and politicians in the USA, and the domestic clothing industry was close to collapse, Mr. Reed, in order to save at the same time the honor of the national team and the textile industry in the country, proposed: “Let them perform at least in some T-shirts, but made in the USA.” On these T-shirts, athletes could according to reed, make a handwritten inscription: USA.

Undoubtedly, such man-made clothing will highlight American athletes from the general crowd of athletes dressed in Chinese clothes. Although, most likely, the beggars in T-shirts painted with felt-tip pens will not be allowed either to the opening ceremony or to the competitions.

And where to find American clothing in America? This senator did not clarify. I would have looked at the house with tags on my shorts, socks or T-shirts. Surely they are identical to the tags on the ceremonial dress of the Olympic team. Also, Mr. Reed should take care of the question of where the markers are made, which athletes will display on the shirts hieroglyph cherished abbreviation: USA
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  1. +15
    15 July 2012 08: 09
    Now, Lyudmila Mikhailovna’s on the dining table, apparently, will remain: if bread, then without butter, if tea - then without sugar, if legs, then without ... Bush.
    laughing He smiled, as they say in full. To the glorious author's duet, a huge plus and respect!
    1. +9
      15 July 2012 08: 29
      With Sunday Vitya, Alekseeva, as she did not try to be corrupt, did not give much for her laughing Although today there is enough bunting even without it, so whoever vyatli will notice that it was leaked, such is the fate of the spent material. I was more interested in our media and Ukraine, on all sites it was said that Putin again sold Russia, this is an article about responsibility for a star! Yes, and saka does not cease to amaze, soon in Georgia the Internet is in the back and our local Geoggin95 greeting his democratic leader will no longer be able to communicate with enemies, of course, due to the fault of Russia bully
      1. +10
        15 July 2012 08: 40
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        as she didn’t try to be corrupt, they didn’t give much for her

        Victor, Sasha, hello! Sasha, who needs stale goods? We live in an age of heightened competition in this direction as well. On the way, a new human rights svo ... Ugh - a growth of fighters for rights. It is a pity that we were able to distort beautiful words about human rights to such an extent that the stigma “human rights activist” smoothly turned into a “brand,” which is applicable only to a four-legged one.
        1. +3
          15 July 2012 08: 52
          Valera with a legal weekend! Not only the words were distorted, but the whole world, in essence, began to resemble - one big crazy house. The basis of the world has become a lie, venality and betrayal, alas, but it is. When nothing is embarrassed by the people in the posts, looking at dozens of TV cameras LOOT. They themselves chose their own path. But others suffer, I hope at least the problem with them will be solved definitively.
          1. Teploteh - nick
            +2
            15 July 2012 09: 25
            And I about Amer's clothing I really liked it! laughing
            Quote: Obviously, suspecting that in the USA there were only designers, fashion designers and politicians, and the domestic clothing industry is close to collapse laughing
            1. +1
              15 July 2012 14: 27
              Teploteh - nick,
              At ns you can think of everything domestic.
          2. +5
            15 July 2012 12: 03
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            as she didn’t try to be corrupt, they didn’t give much for her

            Quote: esaul
            , and who needs stale goods?

            Valera, Sasha, happy weekend! The fact that the product is smelly, and the specific employers of this madam have already realized, Valera is 100% right. Taking into account the adoption of the draft law of non-profit organizations, in the near future we will have a change of "soloist" in the chorus of "liberalistic human rights defenders". Baba Luda will not be able to withstand the competition at the trough, now you can't put a lot in it, and there are a great many who want to buy a free gruel.
            1. +3
              15 July 2012 12: 09
              Quote: Tersky
              Baba Luda will not withstand competition at the feeder, now you can’t pour much into it

              Vitya, yes, sand has been pouring from it for a long time, the bony bony one will be taken away and everyone will forget it, especially those whom she served so faithfully.
        2. VAF
          VAF
          +7
          15 July 2012 10: 37
          Quote: esaul
          It is a pity that we were able to distort beautiful words about human rights to such an extent that the stigma “human rights activist” smoothly turned into a “brand,” which is applicable only to a four-legged one.


          Valery, welcome! Here is the ABSOLUTE PLUS !!!! ++++ !!!!! good
          1. +1
            15 July 2012 12: 27
            veteran.air force,
            Seryozha, welcome, buddy. thank feel laughing
      2. 0
        15 July 2012 12: 16
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Georgia’s Internet under the back door and our local Geoggin95 welcoming its democratic leader will no longer be able to communicate with enemies, of course, due to the fault of Russia

        1. I’m not a Bois for Mishiko (I hate him): P I am for Georgia
        2. I do not consider you enemies (Russian people), but your government
        3. Sorry, but your government is better? I'm talking about tragedies Krasnodar Tragedies (soot).
        4. I have 2 satellite dishes here and almost everyone has a dish in Batumi.
        1. +3
          15 July 2012 14: 10
          Quote: GEOKING95
          4. I have 2 satellite dishes here and almost everyone has a dish in Batumi.

          IIo in vain you talk about it in the internet! bully Rough hour and Internet monitoring will soon begin in Georgia! laughing
        2. +2
          15 July 2012 14: 23
          Quote: GEOKING95
          . Sorry, but your government is better? I'm talking about tragedies Krasnodar Tragedies (soot)

          And where is the price here, nobody takes satellite dishes from us, this is your problem.
          1. 0
            15 July 2012 16: 00
            Quote: GEOKING95
            I have 2 satellite dishes here and almost everyone has a dish in Batumi.

            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And where is the price here, nobody takes satellite dishes from us, you have problems

            And therefore, Sasha, in such a
            Quote: GEOKING95
            plate

            much more lobio and it is more convenient to "bush".
        3. +4
          15 July 2012 14: 32
          Geokingxnumx,
          We ourselves adore our government firsthand :), but it’s one thing when it’s so-so or messing with something of its own, another thing when it licks other people's asses and spread rot by the population, and also feeds on ties :)
          You yourself pay for what you do not need.
          1. 0
            15 July 2012 18: 52
            Quote: carbofo
            We ourselves adore our government firsthand :), but it’s one thing when it’s so-so or messing with something of its own, another thing when it licks other people's asses and spread rot by the population, and also feeds on ties :)
            You yourself pay for what you do not need.

            : D da nu juiot galstuk, i chto? vot eta cyka sam skazal chto esli batumi budet adin iz lutchikh turischeskix gorodov chornova moria ia ishu pasasu galstuk :)
            nasha pravitelstva plaxoi, vasha toje :)
            nu i chto?
            1. +5
              15 July 2012 19: 26
              Geokingxnumx,
              All governments are bad, people always think so.
              Do you think Peter 1 was loved very much? people loved in places, didn’t like to know, he forced many people to do what they didn’t like, but HE made the Empire.
              The ruler is pleasing to the people and nobles, will not lift the country from its knees, this is the story.
              Our separate conversation, and yours do everything that would be bad, from the fact that the police stations have become glass, bread will no longer be.
              From the fact that 10 old tanks are bought, there will be no more bread.
              From the fact that the Americans will come to you, there will be no more bread.
              From the fact that you and your children will not know the truth about your people, do not expect anything good.
              In the meat grinder that is planned, I have every reason to be afraid that you will become the first minced meat for the star-striped flag.
              And you yourself strive for this, although I will rephrase it - for you it was decided by a teddy bear (Saakashvili)!
              I remember we like one film "Prisoner of the Caucasus" there was Comrade Saakhov, I think an amazing consonance 8)
              1. -2
                15 July 2012 21: 42
                Quote: carbofo
                Our separate conversation, and yours do everything that would be bad, from the fact that the police stations have become glass, bread will no longer be.

                change police to police, this is not a reform :)
                Quote: carbofo
                From the fact that you and your children will not know the truth about your people, do not expect anything good.

                what is the truth
                Quote: carbofo
                In the meat grinder that is planned, I have every reason to be afraid that you will become the first minced meat for the star-striped flag.

                as you like. Not a boisha USA is also the evil empire of the Russian cathories, if the government had well-bred to Georgia and its integrity, then you would have been harasho and a bridgehead in the Caucasus would be good for you.
                1. +2
                  15 July 2012 23: 08
                  Geokingxnumx,
                  Quote: GEOKING95
                  change police to police, this is not a reform :)

                  I agree, but the fact is already a fait accompli.
                  Quote: GEOKING95
                  what is the truth

                  The truth is always one, all other lies.

                  3- But who needs you to think for yourself, except for Borjomi and tangerines, you don’t have a figurative expression, the loss is small.
                  You think in American categories, we don’t talk about bridgeheads.
                  1. +1
                    15 July 2012 23: 27
                    Quote: carbofo
                    3- But who needs you to think for yourself, except for Borjomi and tangerines, you don’t have a figurative expression, the loss is small.
                    You think in American categories, we don’t talk about bridgeheads.

                    and what about the American? about Gruzinskiy.nu Georgian territory key control of the Caucasus. it was an answer to Kosovo. and Putin warned the west.
      3. +2
        15 July 2012 12: 49
        Press this damned button already !! Destroy Moscow! Beijing! Damascus! To California! California? .. Damn, lieutenant
        again entered a contour card into the computer!
        ,
        Given the knowledge of the geography of amers, it is likely that ICBMs will not fly to Moscow, the Urals ... but let's say to the North Pole, Pakistan, Japan ...
        laughing
        1. +4
          15 July 2012 14: 34
          andrey586,
          Our people are not better, then I asked the secretary:
          1-name the country with the letter "R",
          2-Reykjavik
          1, what about this one?
          2 what?
          1-Russia
          2-aaa

          (Reykjavik is not a country, but the capital of Iceland.)
          point, curtain.
          And the girl said that she has 2 higher educations !! (according to the word.)
          1. +3
            15 July 2012 19: 04
            And if you read 99% of the statements on our website, then in Russian friends pull in the C grade.
            1. +4
              15 July 2012 20: 52
              kush62,
              It’s not a matter of how many people have a good command of word and writing.
              The fact is that it’s in his head which things he considers correct and which are not, and the mistakes in writing his thoughts are not the worst.
        2. Ottofonfenhel
          0
          15 July 2012 21: 24
          Nothing, many American mothers were planning to come to their sons in Afghanistan by car.
      4. +3
        15 July 2012 14: 25
        Alexander Romanov,
        It will be even better if Geoggin95 they’ll take the Internet and put him in jail, maybe then he will understand that something is not happening in his country.
        As they say: - Until the roasted cock pecks!
        1. +5
          15 July 2012 16: 31
          Yes, let me run free in the wild, which is really a villain or something. He is harmless, just plain and stupid.
          1. +2
            15 July 2012 20: 54
            Alexander Romanov,
            He seems to be not stupid, as it seems to me, he just got a hell of a damn thing in newspapers or on television (local or western), and his brain is clogged with untruthful theses. Further it will be worse, young people will grow up in general will be sure of what Goggin95 doubts.
    2. VAF
      VAF
      +7
      15 July 2012 10: 36
      Quote: Tersky
      Glorious author duet, a huge plus and respect!


      I support Victor completely, the authors are well done at 100% !!! +! drinks

      But to you, too, the same huge BLISTER from me for yesterday’s WTO comment on scrap, pickaxe and shovel !!! +++++++ !!!!!!! drinks

      It is not forgotten and inexpressible !!!! drinks
  2. +8
    15 July 2012 08: 21
    As the infamous Pan Zyuzya from "Zucchini 13 Chairs" said at one time - Kind evening to everyone ...! To paraphrase a little, I will say - "The kindest morning to all." The degree of my mood skyrocketed immediately after reading the first section of the review. Guys (Oleg, Alexey), you, as always, are on top. I really liked the author's version of conscription and service ... I would like to add a little - it would not be bad for future defenders of the Fatherland military enlistment offices to buy diapers and bibs and in good faith they dress and tie them up. Then the morale and patriotism would be formed in the soldiers from the cradle.

    Regarding the versions of the development of the applicable practice of the law on libel, then there is a lot to speculate, but we must look, in fact, how the disadvantaged will behave further. Of course, Baba Luda will not refuse such a wonderful opportunity to replenish her wallet - there are paper flowers for herself, on ribbons with the words "From friends", "From sponsors", "Grant givers" and "From sincerely loving his comrades-in-arms, on Nemtsov, who confesses that in a telephone conversation he hides his comrades-in-arms in the fight like the last scum. " Let the old woman be comforted.
    One thing I just don’t understand is how they (the homegrown human rights defenders) comprehend laws similar to how they are half-brothers (laws that are foreign and ours are Russian on the same topic), they are interpreted in such a different way. Moreover, foreign - with foam at the mouth to exalt, and ours - with the same abundance of foam - to blame ... For this, it must be noted above i.e. from behind the hill ...

    The section that reveals to us the true peacemaking face of the striped generals strikes with cynicism, detachment from everything that lives on Earth and complete recklessness. Such a zoological hatred of the recent ally of anti-Hitler coalition, in my opinion, is akin to the independence of Islamist fanatics. Such confidence that one can live safely on this planet after using at least half of all nuclear weapons in service is akin to stupidity.

    And regarding the successful activities of Mishiko in the establishment of democracy, then a parallel with another, no less democratic, country - the DPRK suggests itself. Who is learning democracy from whom (This is her advanced course. Primary Mishiko learned from his striped teachers) - Kim from Mishiko or Mishiko from Kim is a question. Here we are witnessing the successful interpenetration of "cultures-cultures" of the two most democratic states of the World! We must learn from them ... while they are alive ...
    1. FiremanRS
      +4
      15 July 2012 09: 19
      Good morning, Valera! The article is good as always, but nevertheless I didn’t like one moment - this is how Chelyabintsev took the initiative. The idea itself is good and it seems to me that most of the screams addressed to them are simply not worthy. Diapers and diapers are overkill. The factory solved the problem of personnel, the army, the problem of conscription in the area. What is wrong with the plant watching its future workers? Since the fathers of the commanders do not want to do this ... Or does anyone want his son to return from the army with disabilities in peacetime? Although all that - no luck with colleagues. But the fact that a soldier doesn’t know how to kick floors, to eat, to cook is already a bust from the state. That’s for sure - soon the nurse will sew the collars. Arranged from the army labor pioneer camp.
      And the rest ..... Well, the Georgians themselves put Mishko on their heads, so let them disentangle. Central Asia is already tired of hanging around like an ice hole, to my taste all the Gaster’s homeland, the border to the castle and no fucking WTO! Since Stalin managed to raise the country to the world level in isolation, it means that now you can do the same. Amer let them go crazy with their nuclear weapons and 13 minutes. Living on an infected balloon is not beneficial for anyone, and until they invented a way to clean the territories from radiation, no one will blow!
      1. +4
        15 July 2012 09: 51
        Denis, welcome. I agree - it sounds a little offensive, but, as often happens with us, very zealous well-wishers can overorganize any sensible initiative so that it will make you sick. The desire of Chelyabinsk residents to save their workforce is understandable, but the service cannot be turned into an "outpatient treatment." I have nothing against the "clothing-obedience" I have - health over the berch, but weekly or monthly visits at home - this turns the army into a daycare center.
        It is clear that in an effort to make “us” no worse than “theirs”, it is necessary to introduce changes in the alignment of service, but it is not necessary to turn the Army into a boarding school.
        1. FiremanRS
          +3
          15 July 2012 10: 52
          Well, he knows about dismissal ... I used to go about 3 times a month, then, as Xena became, I was at home every time. However, this did not prevent me from steering my unit instead of the platoon commander, and the company commander was not at all opposed and was pleased with me once he let me go .... The boarding house, for my taste, consists in changing the regime, in allowing to use mobile phones. Wait, I look and I can not understand - a man seems to be in the army, but in Kontakte he sits for days .... What are they doing there ??? Then, all these uchi-paths, shushi-musi, musi-pushi ... as if they are not with a man, but with a child ... It will come to the point that at night they will forbid giving the alarm or the command "at attention" canceled. ..
          1. +2
            15 July 2012 11: 32
            Quote: FiremanRS
            Then, all these uti paths, syusi-musi, musi-pusi ...

            Well, buddy Denis, you and I are in the same clip ... laughing drinks
            1. FiremanRS
              +2
              15 July 2012 12: 14
              wink drinks wassat clip on 30 or 45?
              1. 0
                15 July 2012 13: 26
                Quote: FiremanRS
                30 or 45 clip


                Denis, how many pluses are in article rating on this topic will be - so much and clip. I think - a lot ... laughing
      2. +5
        15 July 2012 13: 31
        In Soviet times, there was a cartoon about the guy being drafted into the army and his whole family joined the army. Grandfather was digging trenches, his mother was preparing to eat, etc. You don’t need to do horseradish from the army. It is necessary to establish normal service in the units, and not a greenhouse for my sons. I have never been dismissed for two years of service, we simply didn’t have them, although some were 10 km from the city and what they served normally. The soldier should serve and to study military specialties, then there will be no time for any kind of ..... ..... hazing takes place where officers and warrant officers do not want to establish elementary order or cannot. So it is necessary to put it in place and not to litter with the soldiers and wipe their noses .
  3. +2
    15 July 2012 08: 28
    Well, what can I say a good review, all the burning topics so to speak highlighted ...
    1. the fosterlings of shitty democratic shortcuts squeal, but how they are not democratically infringed ... they always do this ... I actually don’t mind ... maybe we need to democratize a bit and follow in the soul of a very democratic Saudi Arabia to chop off our heads on the red square, especially screeching Western prostitutes ... for the sake of completeness of shit democracy, you can even drag some kind of shitty executioner from Riyadh, ours are not so democratic either.
    2. Sahak is struggling in another hysteria ... he probably needs humanitarian aid ... a couple of boxes of democratic ties ... and then starved the poor fellow ...
    3. Tajiks, Uzbeks, Kirgiz .... howled that they want money and American love ... the answer should be in the same style ... you want love and we have money ... and using the Federal Migration Service and the Ministry of Internal Affairs to organize dispatch by trains to the song "You are so good bye!" residents of these states to their homeland, with the simultaneous strict introduction of visas and a ban on those few goods produced in these countries. Let all their "highly qualified" labor be sent to the country of their desires, Khilaya Klitors together with Eggplant are waiting for them there with open arms ...
  4. Brother Sarych
    0
    15 July 2012 08: 53
    A president who is late for an official meeting does not care about preserving the prestige of his country. all the more for such a reason - even a nasty Kremlin clerk, not like the president himself, didn’t communicate with some gang ...
    This is just an insult to the host ...

    In attacks on ungrateful Asians, some super-patriots forget exactly where the cargo from Afghanistan will go - and the routes look like Afghanistan - Uzbekistan - Kazakhstan - Russia - NATO or Afghanistan - Kyrgyzstan - Kazakhstan - Russia - NATO ...
    Does everyone see such a route point as Russia? And what are the claims to the Asians? Isn't that a key route point? Where would those goods go if Russia didn’t agree to arrange that transit? Uzbekistan itself has at least two borders to the nearest sea!
    1. +2
      15 July 2012 08: 57
      Here, Brother Sarych, the systematic lateness of GDP is more likely connected with the work of the FSO.
  5. +3
    15 July 2012 08: 59
    as wrote and write the leaders of the Asian countries of the former CIS eastern prostitutes
    1. Nursultan
      +1
      15 July 2012 09: 19
      Quote: bubla5
      as wrote and write the leaders of the Asian countries of the former CIS eastern prostitutes

      And could you clarify which ones are strange? otherwise some of you will not understand Asian countries
      If you included Kazakhstan there, then you are wrong !!
    2. +1
      15 July 2012 14: 32
      Quote: bubla5
      as wrote and write the leaders of the Asian countries of the former CIS eastern prostitutes

      And there is! The history of these babaevs (with Hussein, with Gaddafi) does not teach anything.
      Introduce a visa regime with these countries, let their amers feed now, and at the same time explain to their taxpayers why they took such a bunch of new ogloed on their necks.
  6. +3
    15 July 2012 09: 01
    An excellent review, Alexey and Oleg - thank you very much, how many news I have not watched, but only yours, in the spite of the day manage to cheer up). I would like to focus on nuclear weapons - God forbid, any pr ... ku the president of America or another country thinks out "to press the red button" the consequences - they represent everything without laughing. And if you dig exactly about the President of the USA, then of all the previous ones, in the near future, Obama is more sympathetic to me;) despite the fact that he is black).
  7. +2
    15 July 2012 10: 40
    The question arises why not strengthen our own borders and leave these "cunning" Eastern "friends" to cook in their own juice of problems that will certainly appear as soon as we leave. One gets the impression that military bases on the territory of these states are useless, taking into account their position. What military tasks can our bases carry out in such conditions? Or just in order to take a place? Will it be too expensive?
  8. +3
    15 July 2012 10: 42
    Thank you friends +
    As always a good review.
    To be honest, the "13-minute rule" surprised and alarmed.
    Given the mental abilities of American presidents, I will never believe that they are able to make an informed decision in such a short time.
    1. Nursultan
      +1
      15 July 2012 10: 47
      and they are not given much thought to think for them already; their generals thought. and 13 minutes is not enough to decide the fate of the world.
  9. Indigo
    +6
    15 July 2012 11: 16
    A little off topic:
    Yesterday I discovered that another star appeared on the chase.
    Based on the foregoing, regardless of the political, religious and other worldviews of the forum users of the Military Review - I ask you to accept 100g from me. (sorry that is virtual) with a snack.
    Serving the Slavic Empire!
    Indigo.
    1. 0
      15 July 2012 23: 31
      Accepted, Colonel!
  10. schonia06rus
    -9
    15 July 2012 11: 33
    Part II. Equality to America!

    Trio from the east

    after all, not a trio, but a quartet led by Russia), which, like a banana republic, is waiting for handouts from the United States
    1. +8
      15 July 2012 12: 03
      Today is not 87 year, and apart from another meanness from the USA, no one expects anything.
      1. schonia06rus
        -1
        15 July 2012 19: 48
        But what did the United States do to someone in 87?
    2. +3
      15 July 2012 17: 16
      Listen to you there.
      Before you bring such nonsense, you bring at least some facts, or something.
      Ato your highly intelligent findings cut your ears.
      Your comparison with the banana republic does not stand up not only to criticism, but even to a common sense.
      1. schonia06rus
        0
        15 July 2012 19: 58
        it’s just very annoying when on this site they roam out of nowhere!
        Well, not a banana, but an oil one.
        you understand volkan russia (the government led by Putin) as well as tajikistan (one of the poorest countries), uzbekistan is eager for NATO to transport goods through its territory and pay money for it! This whole situation offends me very much! we are a completely self-sufficient state to make money in another way
  11. Oleg Rosskiyy
    +1
    15 July 2012 11: 37
    A woman on duty by the company will reduce hazing at times, since few peasants will want to fall into the eyes of the latter, and of course, constant physical activity in combat training and regular dismissal.
    1. +3
      15 July 2012 14: 42
      Quote: Oleg Rosskiyy

      Believe me, only a sambo wrestler, a boxer or a freestyle wrestler who has the right to hit the scoreboard for any reason against her, will be able to restore adequate order in the company of spermotoxic young idiots, and that is not a fact.
      1. 0
        15 July 2012 15: 47
        carbofo,
        We had a case when soldiers who were pretty drunk literally stormed the house of a local crush (a girl of free behavior), and the police who arrived at the exit had to use weapons, apparently warning ones.
        It was heard from the words of the company, an army ironic story about a platoon of special forces of our unit. :) what, the participants in the events were not at all.
      2. Oleg Rosskiyy
        0
        15 July 2012 16: 02
        My friend, I wrote in my comment: DUTY ON THE MOUTH, and not a nanny. Apparently you served and you know his powers, especially for this there is still a support group in the form of a guard. you put it, spermotoxic young idiots could pour out their energy for good purposes, and not sit stupidly in the barracks in front of the TV and then, from an excess of testosterone, were doing chaos.
        1. +2
          15 July 2012 16: 18
          Oleg Rosskiyy,
          If you are talking about the authorized army, then the parts for which everything is OK is quite small, there are problems of varying degrees of neglect everywhere.
          Many, besides strength, do not understand anything, due to the lack of convolutions and upbringing in thinking.
        2. +2
          15 July 2012 17: 24
          Oleg
          And since when do you forgive me, is there such a support group (for a company on duty) in the form of a guard?
          I’m embarrassed to ask, did you yourself serve? And if they served, then in which Army?
          In our Army, according to the Charter, the guard extremely specifically defines the tasks and powers that are specified by the timesheet.
          And believe me. Assistance to any attendants (at least for the company, at least for the part) is absent there as a species. Although they will be killed by a guard, the guard will not budge.
          To do this, there are duty units and mobile groups.
          1. Oleg Rosskiyy
            +2
            15 July 2012 18: 09
            Of course, he served, like all normal men, and the figuratively said "SUPPORT GROUP" is a wakeful shift that raises the alarm, including to restore order.
            1. +2
              15 July 2012 18: 49
              Oleg
              A waking shift is intended to be promoted to the post (s) attacked. And the posts are defined, I repeat, by the posts card.
              And so that any change (even awake, at least resting) was put forward to restore order somewhere, this is forgive nonsense.
              ONCE AGAIN I emphasize the SECURITY OF THE KARAUL DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO PERFORM THE TASKS NOT RELATED TO THE SECURITY AND DEFENSE OF POST AND SECURITY AREA.
              to restore order there are patrols, mobile groups and duty units, BUT NOT KARAUL.
              IT PERFORMING THE MILITARY TASK IN PEACE TIME FOR A MINUTE (where the restoration of order does not enter at all)
              1. Oleg Rosskiyy
                +2
                15 July 2012 19: 44
                VOLCANO
                I completely agree with you, ideally it may be so in large units, but in our garrison consisting of 3 battalions, numbering about 500 people, this function was performed by the guard.
        3. +4
          15 July 2012 22: 49
          As my company foreman said: “When a soldier has a lot of personal time, he (that is, the soldier) starts to deteriorate. Therefore, the personnel must be busy from the rise to the lights out. Simply put, zayo ... n, so that he fell on the bed and no thoughts did not enter his head! "
          1. matex
            0
            16 July 2012 09: 29
            Quote: Captain45
            As my company foreman said: “When a soldier has a lot of personal time, he (that is, the soldier) starts to deteriorate. Therefore, the personnel must be busy from the rise to the lights out. Simply put, zayo ... n, so that he fell on the bed and no thoughts did not enter his head! "

            I agree with you 100%. In my part, this rule was applied in full and I can say that practically no one had a desire to fool around especially in the night, but from experience I know all the unregistered relationships arise precisely after a hang-up.
  12. spdm
    +6
    15 July 2012 11: 45
    Judging by the plans that Chelyabinsk businessmen announced, the factory workers will feel at home in this military unit. On weekends, if they are not too busy in defense of the Fatherland, they can go home, after dinner they can take their mobile phones and talk about the charms of military life. And at the same time, employers-workers watch how the recruits in the military unit include: feed, water, blow off dust particles from their ironed out over the weekend with the help of caring mothers uniforms, wash outsourcing for them and stuff like that.

    It's okay, in the Israeli army everything is absolutely so. Every week, a soldier is at home, if not on guard (auxiliary units), many are at home every day (especially girls), fighting once every 3 weeks-a month. All have mobile phones. you can envy the dining rooms, the barracks - rooms for 2-4-6 people (depending on the part). At the same time, they serve 3 years, there is no hazing. And most importantly, the army remains combat-ready. Therefore, in my opinion, improving the conditions of service only improves the condition of the army.
    1. +5
      15 July 2012 13: 57
      You just forget about the size of the territory of Israel and Russia and the number of armies. And also that the Israeli army is in constant readiness. Where you do not have to relax. And there everyone knows that what kind of relationship you have with your colleagues in the field You’ll live so much fight. Of course everyone wants to go home and just eat mom’s pies. But how to go home from Vladivostok to Saratov for mom’s pies? Serve at the place of conscription? So the territory of the country is not only your hometown or village. I agree with those m, that you can allow soldiers to call home, in my opinion there is nothing wrong, for example, once a week or more often. What is wrong with a native factory helping a soldier, but how to deal with those whose factory does not help others During the service did father and mother send me parcels every 3-4 months, more often there was simply no way, we divided this parcel to the entire platoon, at least by candy, and I didn’t see anything bad about it, although I could sharpen the parcel and he and no one would tell me anything bad, at least directly. but I understood that I have friends I it is not too sweet and not all family can send a parcel.
      I apologize if I offended anyone, but this is my opinion.
      1. spdm
        +2
        15 July 2012 16: 11
        Quote: Wyalik
        You only forget about the size of the territory of Israel and Russia and the number of armies.

        There is no doubt that there are no identical recipes, and as they say in this case, the size matters. But in those places where it is possible to ease the soldier’s everyday difficulties, you need to do this, more time will be left for military training.
      2. 0
        15 July 2012 18: 56
        Vyalik
        I may surprise you, but the Russian Army (after excellent reforms), at least on paper, consists only of PARTS OF PERMANENT COMBAT READY. wink
    2. +1
      15 July 2012 14: 44
      spdm,
      When your country is in constant warfare, such a method is real, but not in our idle army.
      1. +1
        15 July 2012 23: 38
        So it is necessary to create a little war so as not to relax ... (just kidding of course)
    3. Yarbay
      +1
      15 July 2012 18: 12
      Quote: spdm
      Therefore, in my opinion, improving the conditions of service only improves the condition of the army.

      Alexander, absolutely right!
      1. +1
        15 July 2012 19: 02
        Hello Alibek
        Improving the conditions of service certainly improves the condition of the Army, but who can determine the line between the improvement and the transformation of the Army into a kindergarten?

        I can tell you that in my experience (and it is present, to put it mildly), our Army is beginning to resemble "first class, second quarter".
        Poor boys wipe their noses, a psychologist runs after each soldier (suddenly the boy gets nervous from the type of weapon) and all this is done under the vigilant supervision of the so-called "committee of soldiers' mothers", which usually includes some kind of mothers whose offspring have never heard of the army,
        1. +1
          15 July 2012 19: 29
          volcano,
          By the way, here is a coincidence, the committee of soldiers’s mothers for some reason receives money from the State Department of the Stripes? what is it for ?
          1. +3
            15 July 2012 19: 59
            All the same Colleague
            Our partners work in all directions.
            Including the decomposition of the Army.
            You can have at least ten million "nominal soldiers", but there will be no one to fight.
            All these processes taking place in the Army I relate precisely to such activities.
            The soldier serves for 1 year. And so "zilch", so they also try to wipe all the drool, snot, and tears. Rave.
            TERMS IN MAJORITY ARE NOT READY TO FULFILL ANY BATTLE TASK
            CONCLUSIONS MAKE YOURSELF

            By the way, this is a completely unpopular topic. This is not customary to talk about.
            Even on this site.
            Maybe now they will minus "death", but what I see suggests that our Army is not combat-ready and is not capable of fulfilling the tasks of defending the country.
            So you should shout about it at every corner, but ..... not welcome. No one in the country wants to know that her Army is good for nothing.
            Personally, I am bitter and offended to see this, because I believe that it is better to voice and raise this problem than to hush up and report upward about the "success of the reforms."
            Eh ..... how many officers lost their epaulettes speaking in this way.
            1. 0
              15 July 2012 20: 25
              volcano,
              And don’t tell me how many adequate and useful people were let loose with reforms, these are not furniture to collect :(.
              Only a year later I came into adequate physical shape so as not to die from PCBs :), unfortunately then it was the most difficult from a physical point of view, and despite the low weight I was physically well developed.
              Just wave a 50x50 shovel from an iron sheet with a pipe instead of a shaft and weighing at least 5-7 kilograms without snow, you need to do this for a long time and everything will be fine.
              After the army against the background of peers. I looked just like a bull.
              And if you still need to master a difficult specialty? years only physical form is enough and when to serve then?
    4. +1
      15 July 2012 23: 36
      In exactly the same way - and not only remains combat-ready, but it is probably the most combat-ready in the world. And the guys (and the girls) are torn there and even complex if they did not take into combat units (Golani, Givati, etc.)
    5. matex
      0
      16 July 2012 09: 31
      Quote: spdm
      At the same time they serve 3 years,

      Have you happened to be mistaken in terms of the life of conscripts in Tskhala? As I recall, the service life there is a little different. I can make a mistake because I ask you to throw off the Old it became interesting. Sincerely.
  13. Yarbay
    0
    15 July 2012 11: 53
    Dear Alexey and Oleg!
    Last time, Oleg said that this is usually a kind of banter, a comic form of review!
    But guys, sorry, of course, but it is advisable that you give the exact information joking !!
    I agree with Denis (Fairmen) about the initiative of Chelyabinsk entrepreneurs, I did not like it, although it was fun written !!
    About satellite dishes in Georgia is too much!
    I know that you are serious and attentive people !!
    The seizure of antennas is due to the fact that they were handed out for free by the relatives of the candidate for President of Georgia, they have such laws, that is, I am sure that you knew that!
    And in the rest, a very funny and interesting review!
    Thank you!
    1. Ataturk
      +4
      15 July 2012 12: 03
      Quote: Yarbay
      About satellite dishes in Georgia is too much!


      In fact, he zvizdit about democracy, then the mouth shuts the box.
      Comrade Saakashvili is doing the wrong thing.
    2. 0
      15 July 2012 14: 45
      Then just the applicant is removed from the election for bribing voters and all business then.
      1. Yarbay
        +2
        15 July 2012 18: 10
        Dear Karbofo!
        They have their own laws!
        Also in different countries their laws!
        I do not say I like it or not, but you have to be objective!
        1. 0
          15 July 2012 19: 31
          Yarbay,
          Yes, I’m on a drum, empty even in Kenya: the loser is being eaten by the new government.
  14. Tylerdurden
    +1
    15 July 2012 12: 25
    "he wants to eat from his plate, and how will he prove that it is not satellite" neighing heartily laughing
  15. wk
    +4
    15 July 2012 13: 10
    under the condition of a one-year urgent call it is necessary in 20 years .... for many, the growth of brains lags behind the growth of the skeleton and muscle mass .... according to personal observations (it was called back in the SA), all "hazing" is based on some kind of kindergarten atavisms of development. .... in a good sense "hazing" as an extra-statutory moral and educational element was, is, will be, and is necessary ... but in what form? .... before the war, older people were drafted into the army and these problems did not exist in the Red Army.
    1. not good
      0
      16 July 2012 02: 18
      If you call at the age of 20, you don’t even get half. Someone sniffs. Someone cares for two children. Yes, and when young, with normal PSU, the brains get back into place faster
  16. -1
    15 July 2012 14: 42
    In this case - Tajiks, Georgians and "Ukrainians" - to their homeland! Why do they feed with us?
  17. +2
    15 July 2012 14: 52
    I read the review. Thanks for the humor. Although seriously, something is not very calm in heart. The revitalization of our Orangemen, tear apart in the CSTO, there are some kind of bouillon processes in the world. Not calm. Sincerely.
  18. Abramovich
    +3
    15 July 2012 15: 02
    Well, look at these salagas in uniform. These are pimple-clown schoolchildren. What can a soldier be trained for in a year? With whom can such warriors fight? Unless with amateur warriors from Georgia.

    My preparation only lasted a year and 2 months. And here, I ran around for a month, peeled five potatoes, and have been playing grandfathers for the last six months. But then every demobil of the construction battalion, already at the station, buys a blue beret and, on the day of the airborne forces, splashes in fountains and tells the tales how he defeated the Taliban battalion alone, with the help of a sapper shovel.
    1. 0
      15 July 2012 15: 12
      Well, this is how to teach, in the past I looked at how they drove young people to Kamen-Rybolov in the border training, it was a pity for the guys. Shooting day and night the heat of June and the whole field in green caps running around fighting gas masks. If it were in the army doing business it would be easier for everyone when there are less evil thoughts
    2. Ottofonfenhel
      0
      16 July 2012 01: 12
      I also served. At least five, even ten serve all the time in the war, all the slags, only in real combat actions does a soldier get those skills that will help him in the future, unless of course he has one.
  19. black16
    -2
    15 July 2012 15: 11
    Oleg, It is a pity that people like you spend their talent on supporting this grayness in the Kremlin. Read the comments - do you write for them? Work further
  20. black cat
    -3
    15 July 2012 16: 01
    The author wrote "Now we should expect that the domestic courts will, as in the past, be overwhelmed with cases of libel, because the opposition has a real opportunity to take revenge on the United Russia army for the adopted laws. Now some Boris Nemtsov will come to his home, and his neighbor is a United Russia party: Boris, your whole back is white. Ha-ha ... Well, let it be on April 1 in the yard ... And Boris will be silent, not even laughing at all, and then he will go to his apartment and roll out a statement: they say, slander using his official position. bang, the United Russia joker is already counting 2 million rubles into the state budget, because Boris Nemtsov's back could be not just white, but also fluffy ... "
    The author is probably not familiar with the practice of the European Court of Human Rights.
    But the practice is such that the lawsuits of public people (politicians) do not have the slightest chance of winning the process. If a politician has been chosen, let him endure criticism and all sorts of nasty remarks from the public. Medveputes will have to review the law of libel very soon on several rulings of the European Court of Human Rights. .
    1. 0
      15 July 2012 23: 10
      Quote: gatto nero
      with the practice of the European Court of Human Rights

      Quote: gatto nero
      If a politician has been chosen, let him endure criticism and all sorts of nasty remarks from the public.

      Sorry, but you are not even familiar with the theory of jurisdiction of the "European Court of Human Rights", which operates on the basis of the "European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms" of 1953 and Protocol No. 11 of 1998.
      Based on Art. 34 of this convention, the court may accept complaints from any physical persons (groups) or non-governmental organization. Those. the convention stipulates in advance that officials and political persons cannot file a complaint with this court, and complaints should concern only events for which it is responsible government.
      And this is quite reasonable, because politicians (with a democratic foundation) are elected by vote of individuals - residents of a state. Politicians, upon receiving a majority in the elections, appoint officials to control the state. structures for the execution of declared political programs.
      Therefore, officials and officials are obliged to decide on slander or criticism of politics with their electors on the basis of the laws of that state, of which they are residents.
  21. +2
    15 July 2012 16: 42
    Great review. Authors as always on top.
    Smiled about BABO PEOPLE! I would not like that my grandmother would be deprived of Amer citizenship, because now she does not need a nickname 4 in the United States.
    He smiled about how Uncle Vova met with Uncle Vitya. I agree with Uncle Vova, guys on motorbikes promoting patriotism and love for the motherland are more valuable than the time spent flapping languages ​​on different topics.
    I appreciate the people living in Kharkov and Donetsk, Mariupol and Poltava. I hate separatists and nationalists in every way trying to separate the great people.
    1. 0
      15 July 2012 19: 32
      AK-74-1,
      Well, you can pour love for the homeland beyond the cordon.
  22. party3AH
    +1
    15 July 2012 17: 07
    The teddy bear is immediately visible in the Soviet army did not serve (they don’t put a hand on the empty head), but lived youth and growing up under the wing of the whale, as for the arrest of plates, they make an information blockade for the local population. Of course, neither hazing nor PCBs smiled about our army, they will come home (vegetables) and there will be nothing to talk about, boring things ....
  23. 0
    15 July 2012 18: 58
    : D da da u nas nichivo netu, pravitelstva lgut nam
    nooo
    takova ani vabshe bi ni dadumalis napisats
    As regards American deliveries, the States supplied Georgia with Patriot, Igla-3 and Stinger anti-aircraft missile systems, Helfire-2 and Javelin anti-aircraft missile systems and a huge number of small arms cartridges.

    fellow : D mdaaa, u kavo vrut?
    Israel, in turn, upgraded 165 T-72 tanks to T-72-SIM-1 with a total value of 100 million dollars. In addition, the Georgian Air Force also ordered Hermes 40 drones 450, the cost of which was about 400 million dollars.

    sim-1 tolka 30-40 modernizovanix, kantrakt bil razrushen
    i ab 40 bespilotnikax eta skazka :)
    http://topwar.ru/15960-gruzinskaya-armiya-snova-boesposobnaya.html
    1. 0
      15 July 2012 19: 34
      Geokingxnumx,
      Yes, everyone lies to everyone, the only question is who and how much!
      1. +2
        15 July 2012 21: 43
        a zachem minusiravats? chto ia ni pravdu skazal chtota?
        1. +1
          15 July 2012 23: 11
          Geokingxnumx,
          Do not blame me, people probably don’t like your flag, don’t worry about the narrow-minded people who are ready to minus the unreadable lot.
          1. +2
            15 July 2012 23: 29
            vot prablema :)
            vi ni xarasho panimaite chto pishut.minisuruite, mne pravda pofig.
            ia prosta napisal pravdu, chto statia bila denaiformaiconaia.nu esli vi ni xatite verit, to ni udivites chto napishut mi kupili merkava 4 i atomnaia submarina :)
          2. matex
            0
            16 July 2012 09: 42
            Quote: carbofo
            don’t worry the foolish ones who are ready to minus the unreadable lot.

            I agree. Often notice this trend.
  24. Odessa
    +3
    15 July 2012 19: 51
    Oleg with Alexei, thanks for the review good and the audience’s prize! bully
    Gif for mood - how the law of universal attraction works, the basics of physics! laughing fellow
  25. 0
    15 July 2012 22: 40
    [quote = FiremanRS] Then, all these uchi-paths, shushi-musi, musi-pushi ... as if they are not running with a man, but with a child ..... It will come to the point that at night they will forbid giving an alarm or a command "quietly" will be canceled ... [/ quote
    Yesterday I read on the website in the section "Soldier's Tales" an article by our apparently former citizen "How I served in the Bundeswehr", so if at least 50% of what he described is true, and it seems that in all NATO armies, military training is structured in the same way, then you can to say that "your favorite city can sleep well!" That's just the term of service in our army, I would increase at least up to 1 year 6 months. And the authors for the review are a big plus. As always, briefly, succinctly, juicy, I would even say, delicious!
  26. not good
    0
    16 July 2012 02: 31
    a specific example: not so long ago in one of the airborne units at the training camp "partisans" during the exercises. When deploying to the positions, they left combat units in a deep butt, despite the fact that the men were 30-40 years old. Here is real proof of the effectiveness of 1 year of training
    1. FIMUK
      0
      16 July 2012 15: 14

      this is the preparation *))
  27. black cat
    0
    16 July 2012 17: 07
    Quote: Kurkul
    Those. the convention stipulates in advance that officials and political persons cannot file a complaint with this court, and complaints should concern only events for which the government is responsible.

    You, it seems, are not familiar with the fact that anyone can appeal to any court, and only the court accepts the case for consideration or not.
    You probably have a Soviet education?
    1. 0
      16 July 2012 18: 02
      Quote: gatto nero
      You probably have a Soviet education?

      Based on your
      Quote: gatto nero
      anyone can go to any court, and the court accepts the case for consideration or not
      You do not have a complete average? Any person can do what is fucking in his head, but some of them are isolated from society.
      First of all, the procedural order of any court is governed by one or another documentary basis in the form of one or another legislation (criminal, civil or canon law, for example), the constitution, etc.
      Based on this, there is a classification of ships.
      The simplest example: your car was stolen - you will contact the so-called. "lynching"? Answer yourself why.
      In our case, I pointed out what the procedural order of the "European Court of Human Rights" is based on. Look for Art. 34 of the "European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms" - and you will be happy.

      PS And the Soviet education system was not so bad, since those who did not force it write similar blunders.
  28. black cat
    0
    16 July 2012 19: 47
    Quote: Kurkul
    First of all, the procedural order of any court is governed by one or another documentary basis in the form of one or another legislation (criminal, civil or canon law, for example), the constitution, etc.
    Based on this, there is a classification of ships.
    The simplest example: your car was stolen - you will contact the so-called. "lynching"? Answer yourself why.
    In our case, I pointed out what the procedural order of the "European Court of Human Rights" is based on. Look for Art. 34 of the "European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms" - and you will be happy.

    The European Court of Human Rights considers complaints only against actions or decisions of state authorities, it does not accept complaints directed against individuals or non-governmental institutions.

    Article 34

    The court may accept complaints from any individual, any non-governmental organization or any group of private individuals who claim to be victims of a violation by one of the High Contracting Parties of their rights recognized in this Convention or in its Protocols. The High Contracting Parties undertake in no way to impede the effective exercise of this right.
    As an individual, any official and politician can apply to EUROCOURT.

    There was, for example, such a precedent. The mayor of Warsaw in the press called the "thief." He filed a lawsuit to defend honor and dignity - and lost. They explained to him: the mayor should be tolerant of criticism, because he is a politician, a public figure. He must be able to listen to criticism or leave politics. It turns out, from the point of view of European legislation, political criticism has a separate legal platform.
    ps Learn the materiel and will be the most.
    1. 0
      16 July 2012 20: 24
      Quote: gatto nero
      There was, for example, such a precedent. The mayor of Warsaw in the press called the "thief." He filed a lawsuit to defend honor and dignity - and lost.

      Learn, learn, do not hesitate.
      Let's start with the basics: any politician and state. an official, first of all, an individual, that is, a resident of the state, and then everything else. But the mayor is a position. However, no one will allow him to lodge a complaint with the European Court while in office - he is a "forced person" performing activities on the basis of the constitution or legislation.
      Further, if you mean the so-called. "the case of the mayor of Gombrowski", why so brazenly lie?
      Everything was much simpler (from memory): the mayor of Warsaw was called the “robber mayor”, he filed with a local court, won, and then group of individuals filed with the European Court of the mayor as a state official, and he made the decision that the politician should be tolerant and criticized for granted. “Such are the demands of pluralism, tolerance and a broad outlook, without which a democratic society is impossible” - this is literally the words of the decision of the European Court.

      PS Before you use the learned, you need to understand it.
  29. Isaev
    0
    17 July 2012 10: 42
    "Service is not a burden" - we are talking about the Russian army, but in the photo there are Ukrainian soldiers. - What, the photo you needed was not found, or are the authors of the article so versed in the topic?
  30. kNow
    +1
    17 July 2012 11: 15
    We agreed with Tajikistan

    Tajikistan considered the Russian version of the draft agreement on the stay of the 201st military base of the Russian Federation in this country after 2014 acceptable, told Colonel-General Vladimir Chirkin, Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Ground Forces.
    The two hundred and first base in Tajikistan is the largest Russian land base outside the Russian Federation; about 7 thousand military personnel serve at this facility. The base is an important element in the overall security system of the Central Asian region. Negotiations on the base are ongoing for several months, Russia expects to extend the stay of the military base in Tajikistan on the same terms.
    "The draft agreement between Russia and Tajikistan, securing the stay of the 201st military base in the Republic of Tajikistan for a period of 49 years, is generally considered acceptable by the Tajik side. As stated by the leadership of the republic, it intends to maximize the acceleration of its interagency coordination," Chirkin said ...
    He clarified that the draft agreement proposed to maintain the existing procedure for finding a Russian military base in Tajikistan at no cost.
    "The negotiation process is quite active. We have made a presentation on all the provisions of the new agreement. I believe that in the near future we will come up with results that will suit both sides," the general added.
    He recalled that the Russian side supplies Tajikistan with "modern and compatible weapons, military and special equipment."