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Sohu told what the possible NATO attack from Poland to Kaliningrad will lead to

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"At the moment, the strength of NATO is such that the North Atlantic military bloc is significantly superior to the Russian Armed Forces," according to a military section of the Chinese portal Sohu in today's analytical article. The author of the article notes that the NATO infrastructure continues to approach the borders of Russia, adding that Russian Kaliningrad is actually surrounded by NATO countries and NATO contingents.




Moreover, as noted, it is impossible to unequivocally talk about for whom the situation with Kaliningrad looks worse - for Russia or for NATO.
From the article:

At present, the general situation in Europe is such that NATO is still in an offensive state. Russia can only be defended strategically. NATO is far superior to Russia in strength, armament and overall power. However, Russia also has a small piece of land deeply rooted in Central Europe. This is Kaliningrad - a real Russian dagger aimed at the heart of Europe, at the heart of NATO.

The following is a report from the Jamesstone Foundation (USA), which is also involved in military analytics. The report says that if, for example, NATO from Poland tries to send troops to capture Kaliningrad, then Russia will instantly attack the Baltic countries and “cut through” the land corridor to its westernmost region. At the same time, American experts announced that NATO would "apply the clause of the charter on collective security," and the Kaliningrad region "could be taken after a two-week confrontation."

Chinese military experts, noting the importance of the geographical location of the Kaliningrad region, note that with all the strength of NATO, the statements about "two weeks to take Kaliningrad" look strange. Sohu reminds us that Russia is a country with a nuclear weapons, and it is unlikely that the RF Armed Forces will "put up with the loss of the region."

From the article:
An attack from Poland on this territory will lead to a full-scale war between the United States and Russia. If NATO insists that it goes to the end, then there is a chance that this will force Russia to use its trump nuclear cards.


Additionally, the Chinese media recalled that missile weapons were deployed in the Kaliningrad Region of Russia (for example, Iskander complexes). From the article:

With their missiles, Russia can attack, for example, Warsaw and Berlin.
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  1. Black_Vatnik
    Black_Vatnik 9 November 2019 08: 11
    +97
    Sohu told what the possible NATO attack from Poland to Kaliningrad will lead to


    Will lead to the disappearance of Poland. And there, even the Suvalki corridor is no longer needed to remind the Balts of what hole Stalin took them 80 years ago from.
    1. svp67
      svp67 9 November 2019 08: 17
      +48
      Quote: Black_Jacket
      Will lead to the disappearance of Poland.

      I'm afraid that not only her one ...
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 9 November 2019 08: 39
        +36
        Englishwoman crap. Her first drinks
        1. 210ox
          210ox 9 November 2019 10: 26
          +7
          They made a film about It. Not bad by the way. It's called Threads. Look what happens to the Englishwoman.
          1. hrych
            hrych 9 November 2019 10: 53
            +15
            Quote: 210ox
            Look what will happen to the Englishwoman.

            The Americans and the West as a whole will not fight for the Baltic countries, nor for Poland. As it happened with Turkey, they gave her a definite answer, so they also arranged a coup for the inevitability of a war with Russia. The Poles, by the way, began to guess ... And East Prussia is not cut off, this is nonsense. She is also cut off, as Britain, Japan, is especially close to the philosophy of South Korea. laughing For the sea is not blocked, and the Baltic Fleet is not an extra with Caliber, and we also have aviation, etc.
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 9 November 2019 17: 41
              +5
              Quote: 210ox
              They made a film about It. Not bad by the way. It's called Threads. Look what happens to the Englishwoman.

              For my taste, the 1983 film "The Next Day" is more realistic. Exchange of nuclear strikes between the USA and the USSR. Tin hits the brains. Half of the movie is life before, half after the blow.
        2. Romka47
          Romka47 11 November 2019 10: 44
          0
          Let's arrange the voting on whom to strike the first blow! But what, freedom of speech and choice, we are in a demacratic country, Vatnik wants to go to Poland, here you are in English, but I ... and I would give in Budapest, for example! I can not forgive them their atrocities in their native land
          1. Jager
            Jager 6 February 2020 07: 05
            +1
            - Maybe we gotta go? - Be sure to bang! And more than once! The whole world is in ruin! ... But then.
      2. Bar2
        Bar2 9 November 2019 09: 46
        +2
        if you use nuclear weapons, the whole world will have kirdyk. To start a war with Russia is simply stupid. Those who decide to open any wars and so live well, so what's the point of fighting?
        1. Boris Chernikov
          Boris Chernikov 9 November 2019 10: 28
          +2
          But it's not a fact. If we have, say, a slight manic "the whole world is in dust," then in the West, due to the intrigues of a pair of leaders, no one wants to fight seriously against nuclear loaves, so after a warning shot with a nuclear loaf ... or two .. let's say one next to the US border, and the other let's say in space over Europe .. then they will immediately request negotiations ..
          1. Ivan Ivanov
            Ivan Ivanov 10 November 2019 19: 37
            -1
            Quote: Boris Chernikov
            but not a fact, If we have, say, a slight mania "the whole world is in dust", then in the West, due to the intrigues of a pair of leaders, no one wants to fight seriously

            Where did you find manic if we are defending ourselves all the way since the Second World War? "For the sake of peace and convergence" according to one version, even the union was dissolved. But partners who have not known destruction for 150 years will easily believe in war as a toy.
            1. Boris Chernikov
              Boris Chernikov 12 November 2019 00: 19
              0
              Especially in Korea and Vietnam .. and then in Afghanistan they defended themselves ....
              1. Ivan Ivanov
                Ivan Ivanov 13 November 2019 20: 13
                0
                What attacked?
              2. Ehanatone
                Ehanatone 1 February 2020 02: 33
                0
                And also esche in Syria with all my might! ...
        2. Oyo Sarkazmi
          Oyo Sarkazmi 9 November 2019 10: 32
          +19
          Unfortunately, the state of the world economy is such that only world war can revive it. Poverty Americans are probably just dreaming of the Little Good War (1917-1918, for the USA) and the War that happened on time (1941-1945, again - only for the USA).
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 9 November 2019 12: 46
            -1
            The condition is mediocre, but by no means critical. 2-3 may begin to decline
            years, as in 2008. Then, another rise.
            Americans live quite prosperously. Not as rich as they would like, but decently.
            We agreed on trade with China, and will agree with the rest. Without any
            World wars. There are still many local wars.
            1. bistrov.
              bistrov. 9 November 2019 14: 43
              +1
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Americans live quite prosperously

              Especially those who earn 1,5 thousand dollars ..., hehe ...
            2. Tusv
              Tusv 9 November 2019 15: 59
              0
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Americans live quite prosperously. Not as rich as they would like, but decently.

              And they say. Behind the Moscow Ring Road life is not impudently drinks
            3. aiden
              aiden 10 November 2019 02: 24
              +2
              May I ask you an immodest question, as the most competent and adequate representative of Israel, causing respect. God forbid, in the event of a war between NATO and the Russian Federation, Israel, on whose side will it be? I think it’s impossible to sit out in a neutral way, they will ask for territory, supplies, intelligence, etc.
              1. Oyo Sarkazmi
                Oyo Sarkazmi 10 November 2019 15: 39
                +1
                Israel without the USA and Europe is a so-so place ... Indistinguishable from North Korea.
            4. Armata T-14
              Armata T-14 10 November 2019 17: 18
              -2
              In 2021, the central event of this century will take place - the last world liberal financial and economic crisis, during which US GDP will fall by about 60%, default and fall apart
            5. Ehanatone
              Ehanatone 1 February 2020 02: 44
              0
              If they don’t cover Breton Woods, then will the grandmother say a raise! ...
              Moreover, a blind and deaf granny, and even stuttering!
              When 90% of the world's GDP is appropriated by the financial aligarchy, which for a minute, ...
              We need stock exchanges and futures, and for the production she just doesn’t give a raise to a bribe from nowhere, since after 2014 there was no overcoming, so what! .......
              Lower and lower and lower ...
          2. 210ox
            210ox 9 November 2019 15: 47
            +3
            Sarcasm, dear ... World war will completely nullify the economy .. And most people ..
            1. Oyo Sarkazmi
              Oyo Sarkazmi 10 November 2019 15: 37
              0
              No. The economy will remain. The intangible component of the economy — financial assets and the credit system — will disappear. And at first it will become a small-town. Well, then ... Who needs pepper, who needs coal, and Comrade Baron can indulge in pictures from Italy.
          3. Harry.km
            Harry.km 10 November 2019 00: 13
            0
            Quote: Oo sarcasm
            Unfortunately, the state of the world economy is such that only world war can revive it.

            Worldwide, but not nuclear ... After nuclear, the economy will again become exchange-natural ...
            1. Chaldon48
              Chaldon48 10 November 2019 03: 09
              0
              The world war, after the first warning strikes, may completely die out. People making fateful decisions, I think there are different options for the development of events on the table, and after the first blows, it is unlikely that anyone will decide to launch all the rockets in one gulp, there will probably be a feeling that another second and the situation will get out of control and they will take another 5 minutes sitting at unattainable heights will turn into useless little people. This alone is tantamount to suicide.
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 10 November 2019 12: 00
                +3
                "The world war, after the first warning strikes, may completely die out." ////
                ----
                I think so too. A "demonstratively frightening strike" by a large nuclear warhead on an empty space in a secondary direction is possible.
                To show the other side that things have gone too far.
                And need a truce and negotiations
                1. Ka-52
                  Ka-52 11 November 2019 05: 20
                  +2
                  I think so too. A "demonstratively frightening strike" by a large nuclear warhead on an empty space in a secondary direction is possible.
                  To show the other side that things have gone too far.
                  And need a truce and negotiations

                  well yes. And how do you imagine it? To begin with, the Americans tell our General Staff that this launch of the trident is not real, but warning, in the wilderness somewhere near Vorkuta? What kind of nonsense? As soon as some kind of station like 77Я6 fixes the launch of the ICBM and its trajectory ending in the territory of the Russian Federation is established, then no one, no one - believe me, will it be examined whether it is a warning launch or a real one. They don’t joke with nuclear weapons, it’s not a New Year’s cracker for you.
                  1. Fikys
                    Fikys 11 November 2019 07: 23
                    0
                    If the launch is single, they may well begin to understand, because such a launch may be unintentional.
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        3. figwam
          figwam 9 November 2019 11: 36
          +1
          Quote: Bar2
          if you use nuclear weapons

          In World War II, no one used chemical or bacteriological weapons, although the cost of losing was the very existence of states.
          1. bk0010
            bk0010 9 November 2019 14: 29
            +16
            Bacteriological was only being created, and chemical against troops was already ineffective then. Partisans in Adzhimushkaysky quarries in full growth poisoned by gas.
            1. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 9 November 2019 14: 57
              +6
              And in the concentration camps gases were used.
            2. figwam
              figwam 9 November 2019 15: 10
              0
              Quote: bk0010
              Bacteriological was only being created, and chemical against troops was already ineffective then.

              The Japanese limitedly applied against the Chinese. World War II aircraft erased cities along with residents, but neither side used chemical weapons.
          2. poquello
            poquello 9 November 2019 14: 35
            +4
            Quote: figvam
            Quote: Bar2
            if you use nuclear weapons

            In World War II, no one used chemical or bacteriological weapons, although the cost of losing was the very existence of states.

            Well, firstly - the Germans were not allowed to use it, and secondly - the effectiveness was rather weak, more precisely, the problems with its use were more than real benefits
            1. figwam
              figwam 9 November 2019 15: 15
              +6
              Quote: poquello
              Well, firstly - the Germans were not allowed to use it

              Well, yes, they came to Hitler and banned, fight with conventional weapons)
              1. poquello
                poquello 10 November 2019 03: 16
                0
                Quote: figvam
                Quote: poquello
                Well, firstly - the Germans were not allowed to use it

                Well, yes, they came to Hitler and banned, fight with conventional weapons)

                Nope, Stirlitz reported, and ours bombed chemicals
              2. Prometey
                Prometey 11 November 2019 11: 20
                0
                Quote: figvam
                Well, yes, they came to Hitler and banned, fight with conventional weapons)

                Well, there was probably a mutual "interest". Application of one of the parties to the chemical. arms would untie the hands of the other. Therefore, no one went for it. And, as it was right, they said, it is not very effective, and the users themselves can get it.
            2. 210ox
              210ox 9 November 2019 15: 50
              +4
              And what did they then let in the Adzhimushkaya quarry? In concentration camps? Oil probably ..
              1. poquello
                poquello 10 November 2019 03: 17
                +1
                Quote: 210ox
                And what did they then let in the Adzhimushkaya quarry? In concentration camps? Oil probably ..

                Well ett particular, and generally not fighting
                1. figwam
                  figwam 10 November 2019 10: 53
                  +1
                  Quote: poquello
                  Well ett particular, and generally not fighting

                  Yes, and I'm talking about massive use at the front.
                  1. Fikys
                    Fikys 11 November 2019 07: 40
                    0
                    1. The use of chemical weapons in a full-scale war can only be massive, otherwise ineffective, completely.
                    2. Preparation for the massive use of chemical active agents is long and difficult; it is unrealistic to hide it from the enemy, which will necessarily lead to an adversary strike.
                    Total: CW in full-scale wars between states with WMDs was not used. For quite objective reasons.
          3. kytx
            kytx 10 November 2019 02: 22
            +2
            But the meaning in chemistry has long ceased to exist. The golden age of chemistry came around the 60s. With the advent of tactical nuclear charges and precision weapons, chemistry has lost its meaning. In general, chemistry as it doesn’t seem strange to you is a very expensive thing both in production and in storage. It is very difficult to apply and the result is ambiguous and the means of protection against it are now very perfect.
            biological weapons and are now being developed in full growth, despite all the conventions. They are looking for selective action, for example, only for blacks.
            there are even successes, but the finished product is still a long way off.
            as for chemical weapons and their prospects, read: "chemical weapons at the turn of the century." Everything is very popular and well written. The author is a practical specialist in this matter.
      3. Artunis
        Artunis 9 November 2019 11: 29
        +1
        Do not be afraid, a big center will come to everyone, what kind of Poland is there.
      4. pudelartemon
        pudelartemon 9 November 2019 22: 46
        0
        Why be afraid? We must be happy laughing
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 9 November 2019 08: 31
      +13
      Quote: Black_Jacket
      And there’s not even a Suvalki corridor there,

      It will be needed, and even how, because only the Suvalk corridor with a double-track railway and a 6-lane ban on BERLIN Russia is not enough for normal logistic relations with Western Europe. And as for the vitrified piece of Poland — don’t go there and don’t even drop in if you need to — and everything will be all right.
      1. major147
        major147 9 November 2019 09: 39
        +10
        Quote: hydrox
        to Berlin

        For some reason, it seems to me that Berlin will stand aside in the event of a conflict, because no one has canceled the genetic memory.
        1. ltc35
          ltc35 9 November 2019 09: 46
          +6
          Maybe you are right. But there are now a large number of Turks, Arabs and Blacks. No one has yet been vaccinated with them.
          1. ML-334
            ML-334 9 November 2019 10: 27
            +7
            Alexei! There, from the 90s, Russians will be unintentionally vaccinated from everything.
            1. 210ox
              210ox 9 November 2019 15: 53
              +4
              Sorry for the offtopic .. At work on a business trip the Germans came from the company .. I passed them .. Bah! Native remover.! And they say like my neighbor ...
          2. Evil echo
            Evil echo 9 November 2019 17: 20
            +1
            By and large them
            Turks, Arabs and Blacks
            for these purposes, and delivered (second of course).
        2. hydrox
          hydrox 9 November 2019 09: 49
          +3
          And pralno!
          Do we need good neighborly relations?
          Are needed!
          So, we will begin to draw them up slowly: so on the grandmother the Chancellor Act will end!
      2. Ural-4320
        Ural-4320 9 November 2019 11: 31
        +3
        Have you looked at the map? The shortest distance from the Kaliningrad region to Belarus is via Suwalki. In order not to ride through Lithuania, there have been negotiations with the Poles about this region for a long time, so that we can pass through Belarus in a short time. And then the autobahns to Berlin, which is on the other side of Suwalki? The concrete line Berlin-Königsberg was built on Berlin under the Germans. She is called "Berlinka".
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 9 November 2019 14: 06
          +1
          I'm not talking about a Berliner, but a first-class sauna.
          The Suvalki Corr is not a direction to Belarus, but to Russia.
          Suvalki district is a strategic logistics, therefore they should ours and always with 1520.
          Gdansk is Danzig, and the Germans will be happy.
          What else do you want to burglish in small towns?
          1. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 9 November 2019 14: 59
            +2
            You can also recall Wroclaw-Breslau.
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 9 November 2019 18: 28
              +1
              Of course :: to be honest, ALL port cities in the south of the Baltic are German deeds.
              And also :: You are being minus, sl-but, you are right!
          2. Ural-4320
            Ural-4320 9 November 2019 15: 48
            +1
            Why so weakly strategic? Let’s then Magadan-Brest, just 2 coasts are average.
            Well, who is now grumbling?
    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS 9 November 2019 13: 26
      +2
      Quote: Black_Jacket
      Will lead to the disappearance of Poland.

      Will lead to the disappearance of Europe, the United States and half of Asia (in the optimistic case) as states. Politicians, like those macaques with a grenade, play with a nuclear club, but forget that it has two ends.
    4. Berkut752
      Berkut752 9 November 2019 13: 54
      +1
      All this is entertaining, but how will Russia respond? It is not in vain Research And Development (RAND), which, based on their research, prepared a special report. And the report said that among the advantages of the RF Armed Forces, experts note the modernization of air defense and ground forces, as a result of which the air defense and the army received the most modern weapons, military equipment and communications.
      In addition, the specialists of the research center attributed the improvement of strategic and operational air defense systems forming “key defensive bastions” and the improvement of operational and tactical missile forces.
    5. Alexander Azarov_2
      Alexander Azarov_2 9 November 2019 22: 28
      0
      Yes, why the heck is it for sale Poland
    6. Alien From
      Alien From 10 November 2019 10: 55
      -2
      Such narrow-minded articles ..... not even, wild opuses, not to understand, read zapadlo .....)))))
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 9 November 2019 08: 12
    +20
    A strange opinion ... As if the conflict is limited to military operations in the Kaliningrad region and nothing more. The author is not confused with the Falklen-Malvinas war?
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 9 November 2019 08: 39
      +5
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      As if the conflict is limited to military operations in the Kaliningrad region and nothing more.

      Even the Kaliningrad region will not be affected by the hostilities, as the NATO gang is more likely to be scolded than tread on the land of Russia (Poles are not considered, their age is short, like that of a tanker in a war).
      By the way, are you aware that the grandmother’s aviation readiness is only 10%, while the poorer NATO members are even worse?
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 9 November 2019 09: 04
        +4
        Quote: hydrox
        By the way, are you aware that the grandmother’s aviation readiness is only 10%, while the poorer NATO members are even worse?

        So they themselves came up with a term for their native Paramilitary A2 / AD (two to hell) Coca a normal Russophobe after that will fly to fight with "Resident Evil" drinks
      2. 210ox
        210ox 9 November 2019 09: 18
        +15
        People! Yes, they will not be so at war with ami. They have been fighting with us for a long time and quite successfully by imposing their way of life, way of life, concepts. Pleasures in the power structures of liberals and others like them. From the bottom, we resist as much as we can. But only our own homegrown often press. From the top.
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 9 November 2019 13: 59
          +1
          Their times also end, and not necessarily revolution.
          Just to the consciousness of the guarantor. ACHIEVE that it is precisely the trilliards withdrawn from Russia that do not give Russia the opportunity to become an empire, and the people to acquire imperial thinking - do not try so hard without it, and the money that goes into the sand is the main sign of the surface thinking of the owner of the country ...
          1. 210ox
            210ox 9 November 2019 15: 56
            0
            Your words, yes to God’s ears .. hi
    2. Amin_vivec
      Amin_vivec 9 November 2019 09: 53
      +3
      Do you think there will be a direct military clash? Now is the time of "hybrid" wars waged by "proximal" units:
      And I suppose the plot of this action is as follows: 1) Maidan is organized in the enclave (technologies have been developed) under the slogan “We are Köningsbegs (Europeans ... etc.)” will lead the youth out, seize administrative buildings. According to the plot, there should be unknown snipers and strange people in the form of the USA without identification marks.
      2) then military units are blocked by attendants with posters that will be thrown under the cameras under the cameras.
      3) And on the outer perimeter - there will be a "humanitarian mission to protect democracy" - namely, the blockade of air, railway, sea traffic, troops will move to offensive positions, but not a single shot will be fired within the borders.
      4) In Moscow and other large cities there will be rallies of white-ribbon workers under the slogan "THE SAME CHILDREN" and, say, terrorist attacks, attacks by "various Far Eastern partisans on military units"
      5) It escalates in the Donbas ... In Syria ... In Tajikistan, on the Afghan border ... The Japanese will conduct sudden large-scale exercises on amphibious assault somewhere near the Kuril Islands ...

      something like that....
      1. Boris Chernikov
        Boris Chernikov 9 November 2019 10: 30
        +6
        here is the problem .. if you recall that in 20 million of the Moscow agglomeration they cannot get more than 60 for rallies, even for those agreed and with concerts ...
        1. Rzzz
          Rzzz 10 November 2019 02: 11
          0
          More than 100 thousand came to the non-agreed, this is according to an official estimate.
          1. astronom1973n
            astronom1973n 10 November 2019 07: 40
            0
            Quote: rzzz
            More than 100 thousand came to the non-agreed, this is according to an official estimate.

            Money will not be given to the participants of these "rallies" and 100 people will not be recruited, even "ideological" ones! Even a hamster does not live in a bank for free))))
          2. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 10 November 2019 07: 42
            -2
            Quote: rzzz
            More than 100 thousand came to non-agreed ones, according to official estimates

            This is "total for the year", or what?
          3. Boris Chernikov
            Boris Chernikov 12 November 2019 00: 22
            0
            Where and when did it happen? If you are talking about the whole country, then you need to consider from 146 million people .. there the statistics will be even more dull
      2. intuzazist
        intuzazist 9 November 2019 11: 02
        +2
        And you don’t think that in the big cities the horns have already been beaten off by these kids !!!
      3. Ural-4320
        Ural-4320 9 November 2019 11: 37
        +7
        We are there and so are all the Königsbreers / Kaliningraders. Therefore, with such posters there you can only meet a stray idiot. Kaliningrad = Koenig, and this does not cause dissonance in anyone. Kaliningrad is the official name, Koenig colloquial. Even Luzhkov’s promises of restoring the Royal Castle and renaming the city disappeared into thin air. And no demonstrations, no demands, no other excitement.
        In order for Kaliningrad to become Königsberg, it must physically become Königsberg. "And we have no money" ©
      4. rhino
        rhino 9 November 2019 11: 56
        -3
        Why so complicated ??? At one point, all accounts of the oligarchs in Western banks are blocked, under the pretext of protecting polar bears. Or the West says that these accounts never existed, that the oligarchs and Co. dreamed of this. Etc. in that style. And it's all in the silence of government and bank offices ...
      5. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 9 November 2019 12: 09
        +11
        So, as you described it, there will never be ... In the late 90s, early 00s, it is still possible, now not.
        Quote: Amin_Vivec
        1) Maidan is organized in the enclave (technologies have been developed) under the slogan "We are Köningsbegs (Europeans ... etc.)

        At one time, a couple of years ago, he conducted an experiment at work. Rename Kaliningrad to Koenigsberg, by anology with Peter, without renaming the area. Pluses painted: investment, tourism, etc. ~ 60 people were interviewed, aged 20 to 60 years. 90% are categorically against. What would you understand, I am a resident of Kaliningrad.
        About 2), I won’t even write. negative You do not confuse our grandmothers with "ukropskie".
        By number 3) ... Yes, even now we can say that it is in blockade. But somehow we survive, someone goes to Poland, goes every weekend, and who doesn’t go anywhere at all, he’s good in the region.
        About the remaining numbers, I will not write. Because, nonsense. stop
        1. Amin_vivec
          Amin_vivec 10 November 2019 00: 49
          +2
          Bullshit))) 10 years ago, who tell me that Russia will return Crimea without a single shot, it will defeat ISIS in Syria, and all this in 4-5 years - I would twist a finger at my temple))). Nonce is unpredictable)))))
          1. LiSiCyn
            LiSiCyn 10 November 2019 02: 41
            +3
            Quote: Amin_Vivec
            who tell me that Russia will return Crimea without a single shot,

            Do not confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs ... Firstly, it did not work without shots. Secondly, the population of Crimea has always been loyal to Russia. And thirdly, what would happen, as you describe, it is necessary that 70% of the indigenous (Germans) population would live in Kaliningrad and the region.
            1. Amin_vivec
              Amin_vivec 10 November 2019 18: 58
              0
              I just gathered in a pile what was earlier in other places and threw it to Kaliningrad.
              The Yankees are not going to arrange a global Armagedets, and therefore they will not act directly, and so that Russia does not even think about the possibility of using nuclear weapons.
              Their steps may be so, but may be different. It is not at all a fact that the steps will be effective, their analytical level has fallen. And based on the latter, it’s not at all a fact - that they will not try.
      6. Alexander Azarov_2
        Alexander Azarov_2 9 November 2019 22: 17
        +2
        Well, you described everything so beautifully here, without foreseeing the obvious, RUSSIA has long gone through all the stages of rallies and other attacks, and your script, unfortunately for those not dedicated, sounds like a kind of mantra, and perhaps also a slogan for certain actions.
        1. Amin_vivec
          Amin_vivec 10 November 2019 00: 45
          0
          Do not look for a black cat in a dark room if it is not there)))) I'm just saying that a dull frontal attack on Kaliningrad is a much more delusional idea than what I described)))) And then there are already Suwalki corridors, the occupation of the Baltic ... And in the scenario I described, there is neither one nor the other, nor even the possible mutual nuclear exchange.
      7. Rzzz
        Rzzz 10 November 2019 02: 21
        0
        Quote: Amin_Vivec
        The Japanese will conduct sudden large-scale exercises on amphibious assault somewhere near the Kuril Islands ...

        In this case, the Yeponians would have to conduct exercises to repel the Chinese landing somewhere in the south of their islands.
      8. ref25
        ref25 10 November 2019 12: 49
        +1
        It may be so, but this is possible only against the background of a deterioration in the socio-economic condition and the weakening of the military power of the Russian Federation, the Yugoslav version. A direct attack is suicide.
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    1. hydrox
      hydrox 9 November 2019 08: 55
      +4
      Quote: Thrifty
      Are there really no more adequate analysts left in the country and in the world

      Hehe, why do they all need objective analytics?
      But it’s enough for us that we don’t give a damn that THEY write about us and that they are afraid of us to death - and these are normal relations with NATO (which were designed exactly like that (and were the same in the days of the Union!)).
      And there won’t be a war for one simple reason: by the end of the first enemy salvo of the Kyrgyz Republic (you yourself understand that a volley is not an instant, but a time interval filled with Amer’s KR), the entire NATO High Command, led from the United States and from a couple three points in Europe, and the war will die out before it flares up ...
      I especially emphasize for those UNDERSTANDING: the flight time of Russian hyper to the points of military decision-making is several times less than the time of hacking of Russian air defense by enemy missiles.
      So they will be served and will pass (but this does not mean that it will be completed !!) only the first team, there will be no one to submit the second.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 9 November 2019 09: 23
        +1
        Something you get like Prince Menshikov .. "We will shower them with hats" In a real war, not everything is so simple. History teaches nothing.
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 9 November 2019 09: 32
          -3
          I can’t do anything :: in terms of speed (and time!) It turns out just like that, and examples from cave times as applied to modern wars (remember the suddenness of the raid effect on Pristina) - it somehow smacks of liberalistic tricks (juggling times and a jump from the topic - without this liberd does not live) ...
          Sorry, nothing personal.
          1. 210ox
            210ox 9 November 2019 09: 46
            +4
            Well, it's very difficult to attribute me to liberda. I myself fight them as best I can. We just have an enemy in front of us. And you cannot dismiss him in any way. I have already written how they are fighting with us. And I still do not exclude the possibility of "Reykjavik or Malta 2.0" in the near future. For they have indulged those very liberal consumers here, Mom, do not worry. And they go to power.
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 9 November 2019 09: 51
              +2
              I apologize if I hastily put accents in a hurry, now I see that it’s not sideways for you ... good
              Only now it becomes somehow impossible for them to go "into power" (they simply do not have enough time allotted to take advantage of the benefits).
              But after all, the enemy must be approached in a differentiated way: NATO members are now scared to death by Russia (only Australians who have not spoiled the charms of war on their territory remain intimidated).
              1. Keyser soze
                Keyser soze 9 November 2019 13: 15
                -4
                NATO is now scared to death by Russia (only Australians remain intimidated


                As a "NATO member" I can responsibly inform you that no one is dying, the weekend is coming, the temperature is 23 degrees and everyone is busy with barbecue. And the Australians, in my opinion, have not heard of you.
                My Australian friends are specifically busy buying a family yacht, which is a difficult and responsible choice. As they say - each with its own anxieties.

                You can set aside weekly bonded cards and also go buy yourself a yacht or horse farm, approximately. You have to indulge and you a little ...
                1. standan
                  standan 9 November 2019 22: 12
                  +2
                  Your Australian friends can do anything, because as long as they reach them and while they swim, everything will end
                  1. Rzzz
                    Rzzz 10 November 2019 02: 15
                    0
                    When everything happens, Australia will become one of the centers of a new civilization, the population will grow .... strong, horses will have to be handed over for meat, a farm will be sown with corn, and your friends ’yacht will be used as a shuttle bus through Sydney port.
                    1. meandr51
                      meandr51 10 November 2019 09: 16
                      0
                      In Australia, only one language remains - Chinese. And on the yachts they will draw hieroglyphs.
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 9 November 2019 08: 56
      +5
      Quote: Thrifty
      And what can Estonian media say about this, for example, if for us a Chinese resource suddenly somehow became such an authority? Is there really no more adequate analysts left in the country and in the world than this Chinese misunderstanding?

      Smoke screens are placed for camouflage. It's the same here. Only the informational curtain. China is again quietly "stirring up" something inside while we are discussing such nonsense. For NATO, the "Kaliningrad trap" is needed only to finance its structures, and to fight with Russia ... that's please, but only in the media and TV shows (in them, only Ukrainian "military leaders" tore us to shreds 100 times crying )
    3. hydrox
      hydrox 9 November 2019 08: 59
      0
      And since when did we become interested in the opinion of the Estonian media from a country containing only a battalion of reservists?
      We know from Soviet times what the "partisans" were worth, once every 10 years called up for training ... laughing
  4. svp67
    svp67 9 November 2019 08: 16
    +11
    The Chinese edition "fantasizes" about a possible military conflict between NATO and Russia, and I would be interested to read their "fantasies" about the conflict between China and Taiwan or China and India ...
    1. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 9 November 2019 10: 31
      0
      Well, they even paint pictures .. about victory in these wars)
  5. Same lech
    Same lech 9 November 2019 08: 17
    +8
    NATO is far superior to Russia in strength, armament and overall power.

    How much is this much? ... the pun in the military matters has no meaning.
    Hitlerite Germany after the first days of the war against the USSR had overwhelming superiority in almost everything, but this did not stop the defeat of German troops.
    NATO assembled from numerous troops of different countries is not a monolithic organization, and in the course of real combat operations, satellites like Romanians, Bulgarians, Poles, etc. will be the weakest link.
    History repeats itself again and again ... 1812 Napoleon’s hodgepodge ... 1941 almost all of Europe helped Hitler ... did not save from defeat and now again the same picture appears before our eyes ... NATO (all of Europe) is shaking again weapons at our borders in preparation for their next defeat from Russia.
  6. Amateur
    Amateur 9 November 2019 08: 18
    +4
    Sohu is much better off analyzing Hong Kong or Taiwan. Suddenly, the UK will decide to support the freedom-loving residents of Hong Kong, and NATO will help them?
  7. Nycomed
    Nycomed 9 November 2019 08: 20
    +2
    There’s no desire to even discuss this topic. Poland will not be, that's all. It's a pity. Krakow - a very beautiful city, Ours saved it during the Second World War, from complete destruction. Now will we destroy ourselves? Poles!!! Do not bring to sin! stop angry negative
  8. knn54
    knn54 9 November 2019 08: 24
    +5
    And China (a wise monkey) of course dreams of the Far East ... while two tigers are fighting But in this situation it will not work
    1. Yuri Simple
      Yuri Simple 10 November 2019 11: 08
      +1
      You shouldn't react to fakes. The source says that as soon as NATO starts fussing with Kaliningrad, Russia will strike with "the final argument", and attempts by NATO's Asian allies to at least move a finger will be paralyzed by the PLA. But there is also a comrade Kim Jong-in, although he was frostbitten to death, but in the strategy of the game. He was only distracted by amer's troops from South Korea. The PLA will respond to the Japanese exercises with its teachings, which, due to circumstances and numerical superiority, will be much more impressive. And in conclusion, the conclusion: military actions against the Russian Federation or the PRC by the West will have fatal consequences for the whole world. This is what the Chinese wrote. Sorry, if suddenly against the grain.
  9. Dmitry Bolotsky
    Dmitry Bolotsky 9 November 2019 08: 25
    +6
    In my opinion, Soho would be interested in a possible, and already repeated attack on the eastern frontier of the PRC of the Japanese military. Well, more than once already in history from this direction were the Nippon invaders buzzing a whale, but they didn’t add any brains. You are brothers, sort it out in your garden first, and then look at the Russian borders .. Yes, you, of course, you came up with paper and gunpowder (!), You, dear, the oldest on the planet, and thinkers you are the smartest ... Yes, just a little thing happens, Russia changes your diapers every time so that it doesn’t yell and calmly sleep a baby ... One and a half billion ...
  10. Zhan
    Zhan 9 November 2019 08: 32
    +7
    An attack from Poland on this territory will lead to a full-scale war between the United States and Russia. If NATO insists that it goes to the end, then there is a chance that this will force Russia to use its trump nuclear cards.

    It would be better if they thought about the world. Fools. Vaughn and the EU Macron understood all the flaws of this view of Russia.
  11. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 9 November 2019 08: 34
    +3
    These publications from Sohu are simply fed up.
    Sohu reminds that Russia is a country with nuclear weapons, and it is unlikely that the Russian Armed Forces will "put up with the loss of the region."

    For experts from Sohu, I can add that in the case of:
    An attack from Poland on this territory will lead to a full-scale war between the United States and Russia. If NATO insists that it goes to the end, then there is a chance that this will force Russia to use its trump nuclear cards.

    The United States will not go to war with Russia as long as the Russian Federation has at least one nuclear weapon in its arsenal, and Poland (as a potential aggressor) simply ceases to exist. In addition, do these Sohu provocative examinations make one assume that you, too, want to get some dividends from the "mess" in Europe? Get it in full, as you did in Damansky. You’ll get it all ... First, we’ll chase your fellow countrymen from Siberia and the Far East with shafts ...
    The experts were divorced by "the wrong hands" and "from the outside" ...
    Remember once and for all and write down with your hieroglyphs:
    Do not be dashing while it is quiet!
    1. Dmitry Bolotsky
      Dmitry Bolotsky 9 November 2019 11: 09
      -1
      Loved it! Let me develop your phrase.
      Soho Do not be dashing, while it is quiet!
      Soho Sit still!
      Soho Wither!
    2. Yuri Simple
      Yuri Simple 10 November 2019 11: 18
      +1
      Actually, an article in SOHO, there is a Chinese reaction to the NATO dreams of two weeks. And it says that China will not silently admire how NATO is fighting with Russia. The conclusion in the original source is this: Any military attack by NATO on the Russian Federation or China will become fatal for the world as a whole. Given the huge number of Chinese plans for the future, the only thing they lack is to find the enemy and the enemy in the face of the Russian Federation. But for NATO and the USA, to make China and the Russian Federation adversaries is the most vivid dream. Therefore, this article is a provocation and a fake.
  12. Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 9 November 2019 08: 46
    +3
    My personal opinion is that most of these articles are "stuffed in", so that there would be more excitement, and then panic.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 9 November 2019 11: 16
      0
      Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
      My personal opinion is that most of these articles are "stuffed in", so that there would be more excitement, and then panic.

      I share your opinion, but for this there are moderators on the site who determine the "value" of the material. It is permissible for users to express themselves frivolously (without swearing and swearing, in the case), and an article that obviously does not carry any interest is a flood.
      Let there be the opinion of a potential adversary - we can compare and understand why they have such confidence in victory over Russia ... Give him "bream" and "send him along the Volga - along the mother" ... And then he said:
      and not friend, and not enemy, but ...

      hi
  13. K-50
    K-50 9 November 2019 08: 51
    +3
    if, for example, from Poland NATO tries to send troops to capture Kaliningrad, then Russia will instantly attack the Baltic countries and “cut” the land corridor to its westernmost region. At the same time, American experts announced that NATO "will apply the paragraph of the charter on collective security"

    And here I see it differently. Since NATs themselves decide to attack, the pin dots, as by the way always, after the "fire of war" flares up, will refuse to fulfill clause 5 of the security treaty, arguing that the Gay Europeans themselves acted as an aggressor and will try to stay above the fight again, participating only with their industry and money. Again, as always. lol
    Whether it works or not, that's another "story".
    Thus, having unleashed a war, they will try to get the maximum profit from this to solve their economic problems.
    The Geyropeans, as indeed always, after the "collective march to the East" receive Lyuli, destroyed industry and infrastructure and "hang" an overseas "benefactor" around their necks. lol
    Here we must remember such a historical fact that almost all the most bloody wars were unleashed by the Naglossaks, thereby solving their economic problems., Even island, even transatlantic.
  14. cniza
    cniza 9 November 2019 09: 03
    +3
    With their missiles, Russia can attack, for example, Warsaw and Berlin.


    And other headquarters will be hit.
  15. demo
    demo 9 November 2019 09: 09
    +1
    With their missiles, Russia can attack, for example, Warsaw and Berlin.
    And also Bonn, Frankfurt, Hamburg, Munich and the Ramstein base.

    Chinese military experts!
    End this discussion.
    Think of how to appease Hong Kong and return Formosa.
  16. ochakow703
    ochakow703 9 November 2019 09: 09
    0
    Here is a book - very useful for such strategists.
    History of the Great Patriotic War
  17. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 9 November 2019 09: 10
    +1
    laughing laughing Let them give you a reason.
  18. tralmaster
    tralmaster 9 November 2019 09: 10
    +1
    After the strike on Kaliningrad, the Baltic countries and Poland will no longer be. There will be a separate region of RUSSIA. And rsofoby in the Kolyma will build their statehood.
  19. Jarserge
    Jarserge 9 November 2019 09: 31
    +2
    Strange reasoning. Any full-scale conflict will lead to a nuclear confrontation, respectively. The sooner NATO and carton politicians across the ocean understand this, the better
  20. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 9 November 2019 09: 45
    +1
    I do not understand the following:
    1. Who disputes the status of the Kaliningrad region?
    2. What does Poland have to do with it?
    3. And if this happens, where does the United States?
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 9 November 2019 10: 00
      +2
      Who disputes the status of the Kaliningrad region?

      Trying to challenge: Germany, Poland, Lithuania. Each, in her dreams, is naturally only in her own favor. Someone is trying to call Kaliningrad Keningsberg, someone is Karalyavichus.
      And here is Poland?

      Poland dreams, as always, that it will get something from someone. Poland also claims in its opinion to Vilnius (formerly Vilno), Lviv, Ivano-Frankivsk (formerly Stanislav), shorter than the lands of Western Ukraine and Western Belarus.
      And if this happens, where does the United States?

      Without the United States, this certainly will not happen, since the armies of Germany, Poland, or Lithuania alone will not pull the topic. They always have hope for Uncle Sam, and Uncle Sam holds a grudge against us.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 9 November 2019 12: 19
        -1
        Kaliningrad is a sovereign territory .... another attack on the Crimea will somehow be justified. But in general, this is nonsense. Such a powerful group of troops is needed there.
      2. Ural-4320
        Ural-4320 9 November 2019 16: 17
        +1
        The Germans, even in the beautiful times of the early 90s, when they sent humanitarian aid, never started talking about chopping off the Kaliningrad region for themselves, because they had to pour in as much money as the integration of the GDR into the FRG did not require. Even Gorbachev under the USSR started such conversations in 87-88, but the Germans refused - the "Monomakh's hat" was too "heavy" for them.
    2. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 9 November 2019 10: 33
      +1
      and this is not a problem at all .. I recall that in order to invade Iraq, in fact, it took only a flask with chalk
      1. meandr51
        meandr51 10 November 2019 09: 19
        0
        And half a year for the transfer and coordination of the group of troops.
        1. Boris Chernikov
          Boris Chernikov 12 November 2019 00: 21
          0
          this is logistics ... Now, if they decide to fight, then a sharp transfer of troops + an order to call in the army of reservists both in our country and in the USA will be an indicator
  21. PValery53
    PValery53 9 November 2019 09: 49
    +1
    The West would at least pity itself. We should not feel sorry for them.
  22. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 9 November 2019 09: 59
    +1
    US experts announced that they would "apply the clause of the charter on collective security" in NATO, and the Kaliningrad region "could be taken after a two-week confrontation."
    Strange experts. They believe that they will take Kaliningrad Oblast for 2 weeks, and Russia will calmly observe how its territory is being attacked at this time? Regarding the frequent publications of Sohu - it seems that the Chinese really want Russia to start a war in Europe.
  23. Graz
    Graz 9 November 2019 10: 02
    +3
    Unfortunately, our leadership itself assured NATO that we would not be the first to use nuclear weapons, that was not the right approach after him, they were thinking of seizing Kaliningrad with conventional weapons.
    On the contrary, it is necessary to state in all the hearing that in case of a full-scale attack on any Russian region, a nuclear strike will be immediately delivered to the aggressor and to the country from whose territory the invasion began
    1. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 9 November 2019 10: 34
      +2
      who told you? the Doctrine says just something else..yes, Russia will not be the first to use weapons, but in case of aggression and a threat to the integrity of the country, nuclear weapons will be used immediately .. There is one debatable point, when exactly: before the war or first week of the war with NATO
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 9 November 2019 11: 23
      +1
      Quote: Graz
      Unfortunately our leadership itself assured NATO that we would not use nuclear weapons first, this is not the right approach after him, they are thinking of seizing Kaliningrad with conventional weapons.

      We read slowly, with an expression ... lol
      "Russia reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response to the use of nuclear and other weapons of mass destruction against her and (or) her allies, as well as in case of aggression against the Russian Federation using conventional weapons, when the very existence of the state is threatened", - reported in the new edition of the doctrine.

      Quote: Boris Chernikov
      There is one controversial point, when exactly: before the start of the war or in the first week of the war with NATO

      As soon as the leg of a NATO soldier (car wheel, tank truck) crosses the state border ...
    3. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 9 November 2019 15: 04
      +1
      First, they will carry TYAU in places of concentration of troops and in airfields and warehouses. And that’s all in Europe ....
  24. rusboris
    rusboris 9 November 2019 10: 11
    +3
    Arguing hypothetically, the reason for the war between Russia and some NATO countries will be that the Baltic states and Poland will create in 2020 unacceptable problems for the territorial integrity of Russia.
    In response, they will receive material and moral damage from the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. NATO, represented by Germany, the United Kingdom, the United States and other countries, is distancing itself from the “young Europeans” hit by a counter-preemptive strike and will loudly demand a ceasefire from the parties to the conflict. In parallel, a complete economic and humanitarian blockade of Russia is being introduced. Where, the allies will not be able to provide the blockade with force, they will use sabotage and sabotage. Such a blockade is inevitable and very unpleasant.
    Having shown aggression against citizens of Russia, brigades of the armed forces of Poland or Romania fall under a massive strike of the airborne forces, short and medium-range missiles, multiple launch rocket systems, ships of the Baltic and Black Sea fleets. It is advisable not to turn the places of concentration of the Abrams and Leclerc tanks into the crater of a volcano. There is no military need for this. But there is political expediency in their safety. Since the corpses of tankers from some countries are not the best argument for post-war dialogue. The potential of the combined arms armies of Russia in the south-west and north-west, taking into account the flanking groups in Crimea and Kaliningrad, to wage an interstate war in Europe and to repel NATO aggression in 2020 enough.
    In cash, the armies will deliver a counter-preemptive fire strike to the entire depth of the territory of the aggressor’s country. Throughout the infrastructure related to the war, including the road network.
    Particular care is taken to the gas and oil trunk pipelines on the territory of the enemy. They need to be protected and protected. The irresponsible prime ministers disappear quickly and without a trace, and Europe needs to be heated with Russian gas.
    Also, the aggressor must be sure that a nuclear strike is delayed, but inevitable. The military doctrine of the Russian Federation allows the use of nuclear weapons in two cases: in response to a nuclear attack and in response to the destruction of statehood. The Russian military and economic potential is not adapted to wage war on NATO for a long time. For example, more than two months. Then comes the threat of loss of statehood.
    Therefore, if you can’t stop fighting on good conditions for a month, you need to carry out nuclear strikes with low-power tactical munitions with air blasting. For humanitarian reasons, it is advisable to strike at naval bases or detachments of ships at sea. Nuclear strikes against NATO troops are necessary due to the lack of opportunities to wage a long interstate war of attrition. We must not forget that NATO with satellites is almost a billion people and this organization has a good chance of freezing or starving Russia with hunger. Nuclear strikes are also necessary to force the lifting of the humanitarian, naval and economic blockade of Russia, which will be introduced.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 9 November 2019 11: 34
      0
      Quote: rusboris
      Hypothetically arguing, the reason for the war between Russia and some NATO countries will be that the Baltic states and Poland will create in 2020 unacceptable problems for the territorial integrity of Russia.

      There is no such hypothesis that the hedgehog is afraid of the bare butt. There is no power in Poland, and even more so in the Baltic states, of will, too, capable of challenging a nuclear power like that in hopes of intercession.
      Above, we left a post, the meaning of which is the actions of the United States, France, Germany and GB: "you started it yourself - do it yourself" ...
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 9 November 2019 15: 09
        0
        Georgia, for example, does not allow cargo to our military in Armenia. Azerbaijan too. ..
        If desired, they can send some kind of liberalist and impose a ban on the transit of everything by rail and car.
        And what can cause an attack on Kaliningrad, I do not know. Yes, our release, it seems to me, will not become this pretext. Europe does not need this, namely, it will suffer more.
  25. Oyo Sarkazmi
    Oyo Sarkazmi 9 November 2019 10: 27
    0
    NATO can take Kaliningrad with the same success as China Taiwan. That is, he can take it, but it will remain with a bare ass. Since there will be no place to carry LNG, and there is nothing to pay for it.
  26. pexotinec
    pexotinec 9 November 2019 10: 29
    +2
    The response from Poland will leave only stones, and the rest of the NATO will only sing loudly and will not turn up, the point is not iron
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 9 November 2019 11: 35
      0
      Quote: pexotinec
      and the rest of NATO only they will sing it with all their might and will not turn up, the point is not iron

      ... they won’t even have time to sweat ... lol
  27. Rostislav
    Rostislav 9 November 2019 10: 31
    +1
    Something often Sohu articles on the NATO attack on Russia began to print, essentially adding fuel to the fire of the existing tension. Are they trying to slowly fan the conflict and increase tension in relations between Russia and the West?
    It seems that the Chinese monkey began to slowly back toward the mountains, watching the confrontation between the bear and the tiger and waking up eternal opponents.
  28. rocket757
    rocket757 9 November 2019 10: 38
    +1
    Who comes to us with a sword, then, then ..... and then, most likely, no one will.
    Everyone who is supposed to know this, but journalists and other experts do not "have fun" because of their great intelligence.
    Bamboo is smoked or something else "cerebral" is taken, it doesn't matter, the flight of imagination is endless!
  29. BOB044
    BOB044 9 November 2019 10: 38
    +1
    Only suicides will go to Kaliningrad. US will be the first to receive seedlings of our poplars and other seedlings. And seeing that the United States received seedlings, it is unlikely that anyone from NATO wants to end their century together with their state.
  30. vfvlasov
    vfvlasov 9 November 2019 11: 39
    -1
    With the aggression of Poland against Kaliningrad, in a few minutes there will be no USA and NATO countries.
  31. lopvlad
    lopvlad 9 November 2019 11: 43
    +2
    NATO attack from Poland


    why should NATO attack from Poland if they already have a NATO attack from Ukraine in their plans, they are acting to gradually increase the number of SGA military, building infrastructure for them, bringing in weapons, and after each of their next actions they look at the actions of Russia, swallow or not. If swallowed, another action follows.
    For national interests in Russia, the government first places the interests of speculators (retail, bankers, oligarchs, etc.) and first consults with them and then another concern from the Ministry of Concerns (MFA) follows.
    Just do not need to cite Syria as an example, as the interests of Gazprom, Rosneft and the authorities simply coincided there.
    The authorities needed the last Russian base abroad, and Russian gas and oil producers needed the absence of pipes with oil and gas from the Gulf countries through Syria for deliveries to Europe (you understand that this put an end to all Gazprom's "streams" to Europe).
    After the Crimea, as it is unpleasant to admit, the Russian authorities are doing everything to reconcile with the West, putting the issue of Crimea out of the brackets with the West recognizing it as Russia, but in the West they want only the surrender of Russia.
    I must say that since the spring of 2014, the West has not been guided by Putin’s warnings but by checking Russia for real action. In the spring of 2014, the West thought for a long time to go to clean up the Southeast or not, looking at the accumulation of Russian military in the territory bordering Ukraine, but finally decided and staged genocide .The Russian authorities did not dare for a long time and began to help Donbass only with white Kamaz trucks, they simply didn’t have another option, as if they decided to surrender the Donbass, the people would demolish them in Russia, the easiest consequence for them would be Ishenim feeders.
    And as we all, using the striking example of Berezovsky, we know that even an oligarch torn from a Russian feeder and not allowed to Western grants suddenly becomes either a pauper or a corpse and sometimes a pauperous corpse (the cat killed itself).
    In the Donbass, Russia harnessed and managed to stop the genocide, but in Odessa and the rest of the Southeast, the United States and Bandera drove.
    Moreover, the oligarchs managed to push Putin and force him to stop the republics from capturing Mariupol and militias entering the territorial borders of the republics. Garant quickly "sketched" agreements based on the freezing of the conflict for an indefinite period of time for which the completely pro-Western part of the government assured that it would reach an agreement with the West.
    The West for all this time not only did not let the conflict freeze (regular shelling, terrorist attacks on the territory of the republics, the seizure of gray zones) in the Donbass, but actually staged a military campaign in the Crimea (Kerch provocation).
    Russia did not swallow the Kerch provocation, but frankly it acted sluggishly (in fact, they persuaded the Ukrainian military to leave the Russian territorial waters all day, deciding to detain violators only in the evening), which should not be in the actions of any sovereign independent government.
    The West feels this indecision and allocates more money to the Russian opposition and the recruitment at the top of the Russian government.
    NATO believes that Russia will swallow the deployment of American bases in Ukraine, of course not in the Donbass and its cleaning up for this, but a military base near Odessa, missile defense bases near Kharkov and a radar in the area of ​​the city of Sumy.
    Someone naively believes that modern Russian authorities will be able to prevent this?
  32. Pavel57
    Pavel57 9 November 2019 12: 03
    0
    It is necessary to name the cities in Poland that will immediately receive a loaf.
  33. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 9 November 2019 12: 10
    +1
    what the possible NATO attack from Poland to Kaliningrad will lead to


    Poland will not be possible, and perhaps the Baltic states, Uncle Vova long ago stated in plain text that in the event of an attack or provocation we will hit the Yankees, as hard as possible.
    Do they need it?
  34. vanavatny
    vanavatny 9 November 2019 12: 10
    +1
    I didn’t understand the letters about NATO’s superiority ... again, they counted the total GDP and all the cooks, for all Amer’s bases, all over the world? I don’t remember where it is, this organization showed power, except for a few military punitive operations, some of which were powerful participants I came out in a couple of weeks, due to lack of ammunition, and the rest, at best, train the Air Force and Special Forces a bit, the Chinese are obviously right: well, who was going to fight Kaliningrad for two weeks? what for ? what forces? then how to get out of this?
    1. Pavel57
      Pavel57 9 November 2019 12: 12
      0
      From the global crisis - a convenient way out is war. Write off all debts.
  35. Procopius Nesterov
    Procopius Nesterov 9 November 2019 13: 42
    -1
    An attack on Kaliningrad will lead to a nuclear strike on the United States and NATO countries.
  36. aries2200
    aries2200 9 November 2019 13: 43
    +1
    at the slightest "conflict", Poland will lose the Gdansk-southern lands of East Prussia and that were part of Russia (Ivan the Terrible for another 3 million Efimok bought gold and Peter the First for 2 million Efimok again) + Klaipeda (Memel -Next.) The northern part of the eastern Prussia + Vilna (Vilnius) Belarus
  37. impostor
    impostor 9 November 2019 13: 53
    0
    Sohu needs to be paid more attention to the South China Sea, Hong Kong and the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region. We will deal with Kaliningrad ourselves, and if so, in 12 hours we’ll be in tanks in Lisbon
  38. Nosferatu
    Nosferatu 9 November 2019 14: 07
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    We need to add an analogue of NATO's 5 point to our military doctrine. "An attack by any NATO country or any of their satellites will deal a thermonuclear strike against ALL NATO COUNTRIES. Namely, the decision-making centers and densely populated areas of these countries." I'm not bloodthirsty, just to cool the brain of their rulers and other Russophobic cattle of these countries, I do not see other ways at the moment.
    1. Nosferatu
      Nosferatu 9 November 2019 14: 37
      +1
      If possible, minus argumentatively.
  39. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 9 November 2019 14: 09
    +1
    They will simply burn everything out and go to Kaliningrad, if necessary, and the fascists will leave their sixes, they’re not fools, to burn in nuclear fire because of the stupidity of their colonies.
  40. maidan.izrailovich
    maidan.izrailovich 9 November 2019 14: 22
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    .and the Kaliningrad region "can be taken after a two-week confrontation" ...

    In two weeks, the radioactive ash in Europe will have time to cool. crying
  41. Evil 55
    Evil 55 9 November 2019 15: 04
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    This will lead to a deep and wide ditch from "Mozha to Mozha" with powerful radiation and no less ...
  42. nikolaj1703
    nikolaj1703 9 November 2019 16: 24
    +1
    HIT WILL BE DRAWN AT DECISION-MAKING CENTERS! THINK-TE.
  43. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 9 November 2019 17: 05
    +1
    Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi
    Unfortunately, the state of the world economy is such that only world war can revive it. Poverty Americans are probably just dreaming of the Little Good War (1917-1918, for the USA) and the War that happened on time (1941-1945, again - only for the USA).

    To understand what another is thinking, take his place.
    You do not live very well ..... Do you want better? Start a war. Virtually, of course. And consider the chance to stay not only alive, but also radioactively healthy. With whole relatives, the city where you live, work, and good nutrition. And the more coverage of your dreams, the, of course, is unlikely.
    Now suspend what you have NOW with what remains AFTER. Are you one smart, and do not want to lose what is, and all the rest are fools?
  44. duchy
    duchy 9 November 2019 17: 22
    +1
    You read this nonsense, you are amazed at the seizure of Kaliningrad, but in any case, the attack taken will lead to the collapse of Western European politics and their vaunted civilization; , all the better. laughing
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 10 November 2019 09: 28
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      But the Munich agreement of 1938 is not nonsense? He led to colossal casualties and the loss of Europe's world position. Do not exaggerate their mental capabilities.
  45. Gado
    Gado 9 November 2019 20: 50
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    And I still did not understand why the fantasies of this Chinese portal generally need to be discussed here. Nonsense, and only.
  46. DDT
    DDT 10 November 2019 02: 29
    -2
    Guys, I don't want to offend anyone, but ... Now, reading the comments, I got the impression that most of the commentators of this article are, to put it mildly, inadequate? To all of you, a sort of Anikam-warriors with a vigorous loaf: Do you seriously believe that the Russian Federation will use nuclear weapons and "they won't dare" mattresses? You probably did not study well at school and do not know that Great Britain and France have 4 and 3 nuclear reserves on the planet, respectively? You probably seriously believed in the propaganda of some "experts", "bloggers", etc. "OchAvtorLichnosti" that "nicknames do not fly, do not shoot and do not bang"? I have to disappoint you. If nuclear weapons are used in the RF-NATO conflict, with colossal NATO losses, the Russians will cease to exist as an ethnic group. Yes, don't block your ears. Guys, in the Russian Federation, what percentage of the Russian population lives in cities? What will the nuclear strikes be against? Therefore, before you write something, and try to earn some pluses, in the hope of "maybe it will," I would advise you to stupidly calculate how many warheads Russia and NATO countries currently have, ON WHAT CARRIERS, and how many people live in these countries and where. .. And then write lousy postings with a hap-handed bias. Well, no, really, almost none of them said, "... I! No need for war" fool fool fool fool
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 10 November 2019 09: 35
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      So ask for this "no war needed" by Uncles Sam and Boole. If they start a war, then an exchange of nuclear strikes is inevitable. Russians don't give up. Why do we need a world without Russia? A complete end will come to Western ethnic groups. There are an order of magnitude more tactical nuclear weapons in the Russian Federation than in Europe. America will be torn down with strategic weapons. China will be forced to support Russia and take over the Pacific region, including Australia. There will be no more English in the world.
      If the leadership of the Russian Federation attempts to betray, it will be displaced.
    2. bk0010
      bk0010 10 November 2019 15: 09
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      Quote: DDT
      Russians will cease to exist as an ethnic group
      We will kill a maximum of 140 million, we - 800 million in Europe, 300 - in the USA and 150 in Japan. 9: 1 in our favor. And Siberia will certainly survive: population density is low, familiar to the cold weather.
      1. DDT
        DDT 30 January 2020 04: 45
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        dude, will it make you feel better? Where will you discuss who killed how much? In the next world? request
        1. bk0010
          bk0010 30 January 2020 20: 45
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          Quote: DDT
          dude, will it make you feel better?
          Yes!
          1. DDT
            DDT April 21 2020 13: 33
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            Quote: bk0010
            Quote: DDT
            dude, will it make you feel better?
            Yes!

            who is it? Do you have some kind of incurable disease? No children, nephews, grandchildren? You are all alone and therefore "but it is all to waste"?
            1. bk0010
              bk0010 April 21 2020 16: 09
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              No, there are no incurable diseases, there are close ones. But what does all this have to do with your question?
              1. DDT
                DDT April 21 2020 23: 43
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                "We will kill a maximum of 140 million, we - 800 million in Europe, 300 - in the US and 150 in Japan. 9: 1 in our favor. And Siberia will certainly survive: the population density is low, they are used to cold weather."
                What you wrote. I asked, will it make it easier for YOU, that "them" will die more than "us"?
                1. bk0010
                  bk0010 April 22 2020 01: 09
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                  Yes. We will be avenged.
                  1. DDT
                    DDT April 22 2020 17: 46
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                    I am sincerely glad that there are adequate people in the government of the Russian Federation and other "dialogue partners" who have something to lose. I, you, we can sleep peacefully, no one will have to "avenge" anyone.
                    1. bk0010
                      bk0010 April 22 2020 23: 07
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                      Yes, I kind of also did not plan to start. You wrote that they can destroy us. I replied that we will destroy significantly more.
                    2. bk0010
                      bk0010 April 22 2020 23: 12
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                      As for the "dialogue partners", do not flatter yourself: not all are adequate there. There are many people who think in the style of "we will embed, but they will not dare". Therefore, the cartoon with Florida caused a cognitive dissonance: they convinced each other that everything would be as they predicted, but here, it turns out, on the other hand, they also fully admit that the "bus" will plant warheads over them.
                      1. DDT
                        DDT April 23 2020 20: 29
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                        You know, I’ve been living in the conditional West for many years. Not a single person has planned or plans to fight with anyone. Generals, of course, like any normal peasant, want to dick. I have a gun myself, so I shoot at the dash lol And the generals, the broads will have more. But here are such publications and experts who are inflating something, or about Ukraine-Syria, it would be better if the Military Review would write about military equipment, tell us, you, all about tanks, planes, bows and arrows, and not provoked our readers to divine discussions on the topic of who will beat whom. Well this is my opinion. I’m watching Goblin and Co. now, about the history of Russia, the Golden Horde, the Second World War ... I’m blissed from the heart. But Topwar something began to lose attractiveness with all these Soho smooch.
                      2. bk0010
                        bk0010 April 23 2020 23: 26
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                        Quote: DDT
                        Not a single person has planned or plans to fight with anyone.
                        Yes? The United States alone has conducted over 200 military operations in its existence, 31 of them after WWII, do you seriously think that no one planned them? The fact that your friends are not planning to fight is good. The problem is that those who really make decisions order not only the planning of military operations (to hell with them, let them plan as much as they like, people have such a job), but also their implementation. And at the same time they are still acquiring asylum in Australia, disguising themselves among the Nasdakov millionaires doing the same. That is, they are openly preparing not to die if something goes wrong. Since they are the ones who decide whether this "something" will go at all, it is annoying.
                      3. DDT
                        DDT April 30 2020 13: 45
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                        you know BC, let's be honest, if a gun hangs on the wall, then in the second act it will certainly shoot. The same thing with weapons, if they are there is a huge temptation to use them for their intended purpose. As an average person, it doesn’t matter to me who first pulls the trigger. Anyway, then the winners will write the story anyway.
  47. kig
    kig 10 November 2019 05: 26
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    It seems that we have a new authority - Chinese.
  48. lopvlad
    lopvlad 10 November 2019 09: 36
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    Quote: DDT
    I have to disappoint you. In the case of the use of nuclear weapons in the conflict between Russia and NATO, with the colossal losses of NATO, the Russians will cease to exist as an ethnic group.


    how many there were. They came from different sides in a war on us in different clothes, under different banners and slogans and they said some words. They only turned into humus with their empires and the Russian people will live and will live.

    Quote: DDT
    Do you seriously believe that the Russian Federation will use nuclear weapons


    reminded smug Svidomo ukrov in February, March 2014 with the same type of expressions "Now America will order Putin and he will instantly run away from the Crimea, abandoning the Crimeans and all the property and ships of the Black Sea Fleet."
    I also remembered Mishiko, a lover of ties who was 100% sure that now all of NATO would harness for him by declaring war on Russia. Erdogan also thought of shooting down a Russian plane in Syria, but NATO said that it was not their business.
    Do you, naively, think that the Americans will die for Europe?
    It is unnecessary to drive a Russian bear into a corner, otherwise the whole European zoo will cease to exist.
  49. 1970mk
    1970mk 10 November 2019 12: 55
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    Yes, this is nonsense! What buled if Poland attacks Russia)))) And what happens if the Russian Federation attacks Poltsha? And to Germany, France, the USA? Nobody will attack anyone! Enough Enemies to Search! Explain better why with the Genius Leader tens of millions for 10-20 tr. WORK! And how does it fit with GREAT RUSSIA? Russia is ONE, the people are different? Tin!
  50. dsdelta
    dsdelta 10 November 2019 13: 43
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    The attack from Poland to Kaliningrad will lead to the fact that from Poland there will be only one memory. She will not lead to anything else. )))
    1. Michael HORNET
      Michael HORNET 11 November 2019 12: 53
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      And if you remember where the children of the "elite" live and whose citizenship do they have? Yes bills and real estate recount
      and if all this is to collect in a heap quietly and roll out some ultimatum, but to reconcile with gas contracts? Yes, some money to throw WHO NEEDS?
      after all, a different scenario, huh?