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Conqueror of Red Verdun

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Conqueror of Red Verdun

P.N. Wrangell


The first period of the life of the baron ended (Legendary baron) On 28 on August 1918, Major General George Cavalier P.N. Wrangel joined the Volunteer Army. Initially, he was the temporary commander (from the 31 of August 1918) and the head (from the 31 of October) of the 1 Horse Division, and from the 15 of November - the commander of the 1 Horse Corps.

Cavalry general


The situation with the appointment was as follows: “Gene. I almost did not know A.I. Denikin. During the Japanese war he met - at the headquarters of the gene. Rennenkampf, saw him in Mogilev. 27 August gene. Denikin reminded me of a meeting in Manchuria, said that he had heard about me more than once from the gene. Kornilova. "How do we use you ... we have few troops" ... As you know, in 1917 I commanded a cavalry corps, but in 1914 I was a squadron commander ... and still not out of date to stand up again the head of the squadron. " - “But even the squadron ... do you agree with the team leader?” - “I’m listening, Your Excellency!”


Commander-in-Chief of the Volunteer Army (with 25. 09. (8. 10.) 1918) and the Armed Forces of the South of Russia (with 26. 12. 1918 (8. 01. 1919)) Lieutenant General A. I. Denikin

But he received a division, which caused great surprise among the staff officers, since the volunteer Headquarters strictly adhered to nominating exclusively "pioneers" to command posts.

As an outstanding cavalry commander, P.N. I. Denikin. The infantry generals did not respond to a note filed by P.N. Wrangel in mid-November with a proposal to immediately begin re-creating regular cavalry units with a special main body over them - the cavalry inspection. The volunteers reacted rather coolly to the construction of a regular army.


Chief of Staff of the Volunteer Army (later VSYUR) Lieutenant General I.P. Romanovsky

To Tsaritsyn


Lieutenant General (Order of the Commander-in-Chief of the Volunteer Army 22. 11. 1918 g.) P.N. Wrangel becomes commander of the Volunteer Army (with 27. 12. 1918 g.) And then the Caucasian Volunteer Army (with 10. 01. 1919 g.) .


The general went to Ekaterinodar, and “Denikin thanked for the actions of the units, promised to help everyone and sent to Romanovsky ... I met with him a very kind reception, but I could not get a definite, comprehensive answer.”

By the 29 of January 1919, the North Caucasus was cleared of the Bolsheviks. White trophies became: 21 one thousand prisoners, 200 guns, 300 machine guns, 8 armored trains and other rich military booty.


P.N. Wrangel was seriously ill with typhus. And doctors thought his condition was hopeless. Olga Mikhailovna was called from the Crimea, and thanks to her careful care and the care of the doctors, the general was saved from death. He met with A. I. Denikin at the 6 week of Great Lent - in Yekaterinodar. The meeting was cordial. The commander-in-chief and the chief of his staff complained about the "intrigues of the Kuban intriguers." To this P.N. Wrangel openly expressed his view - about the need for the sake of a common cause to be more tolerant, to agree and equalize the rights of the Cossack troops. Thus, while volunteer generals did not like the “independent Cossacks,” P. N. Wrangel called for a settlement of the contradictions that existed.

He did not sympathize with the operational plan adopted by the Headquarters, believing: “1) that the main direction should be tsaritsinsky and ... speedy communication with the troops of the adm. Kolchak; 2) act mainly in one direction, the most vulnerable to the enemy; 3) in the Lugansk direction ... we just plug holes, lose people and lose faith in victory; 4) we must expect in the near future the transition of the enemy to the offensive on the Tsaritsyno front ...; 5) it is necessary to wrest the initiative of actions from the adversary and strike him a blow ”(report from April 4 on April 1919). Further in the report, P. N. Wrangel developed a plan for the offensive from Torgovaya to Tsaritsyn: “Time does not endure, it is necessary to warn the enemy and wrest the initiative that is so often released from our hands”.

There was no response to the report. The headquarters (first of all, I.P. Romanovsky) did not tolerate other people's instructions and did not allow criticism and practical advice - the person involved in our article wrote.

Predictions of P. N. Wrangel came true: on the 12 of April the enemy crossed the river. Manych stepped on Torgovaya. It was necessary to save the situation, and P.N. Wrangel was offered to command the Manych front.

The available troops were not enough, and the general asked them to be strengthened - indicating where to get them. I.P. Romanovsky refused. Then P.N. Wrangel refused the appointment. The enemy continued to advance successfully, threatening Bataysk already.

The strength of P.N. Wrangel as a combat commander was that, having a sharp military mind, he very quickly (instantly), easily and accurately understood the most difficult, unexpectedly developing situation - not only with regard to his combat area, but also to the entire front . Possessed operational insight (in particular, having foreseen the aforementioned offensive by the Reds) and, depending on the combat situation, immediately and accurately determined the direction of the necessary counter-strike against the enemy to counter the latter's offensive. Being personally a very brave man (remember the battery taken in an equestrian attack), he never lost his cool in battle. The appearance of P.N. Wrangel during the battle in the ranks of the troops immediately greatly enhanced the morale of the soldiers and Cossacks, and the confidence in their actions provided an opportunity to entrain all the attackers - who “blindly believed him and went to fire and water by his order” .

And A.I. Denikin, taking into account the recommendations of P.N. Wrangel, gathered a fist in the 5,5 divisions, appointing a general to command him, ordering: 1) to go on the offensive on the river Manych and Sal, 2) capture Art. The Grand Duchess (railroad. Tsaritsyn - Torgovaya) and 3) conduct an attack on Tsaritsyn, having captured the city.


The commander of the Caucasus Army, Lieutenant General Baron P.N. Wrangel at the headquarters car. May 1919

P.N. Wrangel personally chose the places of crossing and took up the training of the troops selected by him. Each fighter knew what he had to do, crossing the river. Many wooden shields were prepared (from dismantled fences that enclosed the yard from the yard in farms and villages). The crossing on the shields was successfully tested. On the 2 of May, under cover of strong artillery fire, at night they placed shields on the bottom of the river (in several rows, one on top of the other) in those places where the forcing was planned - and the crossing of the cavalry began. The shields fell to the bottom - and stood. On the groats of their horses, cavalrymen transported the plastuns - and the bridgehead was captured. They successfully transported machine-gun carts, and then launched artillery. Although the shields were under water, the artillery also went well.


General P.N. Wrangel, Quartermaster General of the Caucasian Army Headquarters Colonel P. A. Kusonsky, Head of the Operations Division Colonel A. A. von Lampe at the Blown Bridge over the River Sal

Under enemy fire P.N. Wrangel personally led the offensive. The Reds offered stubborn resistance - and fierce battles lasted three days. Finally, the enemy began to retreat. On May 6, Art. Grand Duchess and captured by 15 thousand prisoners, 55 guns and 150 machine guns. A.I. Denikin, observing the attack of the Wrangel cavalry from the observation post of the 6 division, warmly thanked the winner, noting that during the entire Civil War he did not see such a strong fire of Bolshevik artillery.


Plastuns of the Caucasian army are fighting near Tsaritsyn

Under the command of the baron, a successful operation was carried out to capture Tsaritsyn (the city was liberated 17 (30). 06. 1919).


The parade of troops in Tsaritsyno. Before the front, the commander of the Caucasian Army, Lieutenant General P.N. Wrangel. On horseback - Major General P.P. Mamonov, head of the 3th Kuban Cossack Division. 20 June 1919

The battles for the city of 1 — 2 of June showed that it was very strong, protected by strong artillery (including heavy long-range) and armored trains. The Reds, attaching great importance to Tsaritsyn, strengthened their troops, and on the 4 went on the offensive - as a result of which the White sieged back.

Despite the lack of manpower and equipment, having regrouped the troops, actively using cavalry and military equipment, and personally drawing his troops forward, P.N. Wrangel took possession of the Red Verdun.


P.N. Wrangel and the ranks of the headquarters of the Caucasian Army take the parade

Unrealized strategic project


Among the volunteers P.N. Wrangel was one of the few cavalry generals of pre-revolutionary production who had experience in commanding large cavalry units.

The generals P.N. It was justified as follows: since there were no reserves, and the front was excessively stretched, it was necessary to temporarily gain a foothold in the Tsaritsyn - Yekaterinoslav section, providing the flanks with large river barriers, and in the Kharkov region concentrate a powerful cavalry fist with force in the 3 - 4 corps - and act according to the shortest directions to Moscow, striking at the rear of the red armies.

But the Headquarters failed to appreciate both the significance and strength of the large cavalry mass. Since the reports were contrary to the decisions of the High Command of the All-Union Federal League of Justice, they only caused discontent between the Stavka and alienation between the generals. A. I. Denikin, taking reports, noted that the cavalry generals probably only want to be the first to get to Moscow.

The implementation of the project could bring a significant change in the operational-strategic situation. But the project was not supported by the "infantry generals" who held senior positions in the All-Union Socialist League. But it turned out to be realized by the Reds - whose mounted armies became the locomotive pushing forward the combined arms armies, and, as a result, the key to the victory over the Armed Forces of the South of Russia.


P.N. Wrangel accepts the report of the Chief of the 7th Infantry Division, Lieutenant General N. E. Bredov

The fall and rise of P.N. Wrangel


The untimely and unsupported “Moscow Directive” by A. I. Denikin, the Baron considered the beginning of the end of the White movement of the South of Russia.

The failure of the “Campaign to Moscow”, problems with the Cossack regions, and disorder of the rear — a circle of questions regarding which there were disagreements between P. N. Wrangel and Stavka — grew rapidly. The general embarked on an opposition path to the High Command.

On the 26 of November, the 1919 of P.N.

08. 02. 1920, due to disagreements with A. I. Denikin, he was dismissed (telegram of the Commander in Chief No. 002531). A. I. Denikin writes a lot about these disagreements on the pages of "Essays on the Russian Troubles."

After the resignation of A.I. Denikin, in accordance with the decision of the majority of the highest command staff of the All-Union Socialist League, set forth at the Military Council, 22. 03. 1920, by the decision of the Commander-in-Chief of the All-Union Socialist League, P.N.

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  1. Dalton
    Dalton 13 November 2019 18: 15
    +2
    Great General! It’s a pity he didn’t command the All-Union Socialist League in 19
    1. Hunghuz
      Hunghuz 13 November 2019 18: 35
      +8
      An episode with shields for crossing the interestingness of thought and thoroughness of implementation reminded me of Yudenich’s approach to the Erzurum operation (each soldier carried wood logs, since there was nothing to heat in the mountains, etc.) and Bagration’s operation (wet-stages)
    2. Sugar Honeyovich
      Sugar Honeyovich 14 November 2019 12: 40
      -2
      It is a pity that he did not join the Red Army like all decent people, patriots of Russia.
      1. denatured alcohol
        denatured alcohol 14 November 2019 12: 51
        +2
        like all decent people

        Is that all? laughing
        Most decent people just pulled away from all this mess.
        Though life was prolonged wink
        There, the patriot General Lechitsky, the hero of WWI, was starved to death in a prison hospital. And how many such patriots - Svechins and Novikovs fertilized the land at the Kommunarka training ground.
        Notice!
        Without a Wreath with the inscription: "To the Creators of the Red Army from grateful descendants."
  2. Hunghuz
    Hunghuz 13 November 2019 18: 35
    +10
    Thank you for continuing the most interesting material!
    1. Black joe
      Black joe 13 November 2019 19: 14
      +8
      Thank you for continuing interesting material!

      Join hi
      1. cost
        cost 14 November 2019 00: 01
        +5
        Thank you, OAV09081974
        Excellent presentation of the material. We look forward to continuing your cycle
        1. denatured alcohol
          denatured alcohol 14 November 2019 09: 46
          +5
          So you, Rich, for part 1 wrote that you had already read all 3 parts, and even with your family.
          By the way, don’t give a reference to the 3rd part?
  3. Albatroz
    Albatroz 13 November 2019 18: 50
    +3
    Tsaritsyn, Defense of Tsaritsyn is a red fetish. Inflated by the propaganda and court historiography of the leaders. Indeed, such a tough nut, for the Civil War, he withstood several assaults, Stalin himself was on the defensive ...
    And Wrangel took it, and covered the tale. Just took this Tsaritsyn, the legendary "red Verdun." With less power. Showed the class in one word)
    1. Black joe
      Black joe 13 November 2019 19: 13
      +11
      The Germans Veden did not take, which can not be said about the "Red Verdun"
    2. 210ox
      210ox 13 November 2019 20: 04
      +2
      Yeah. True, the Reds soon covered Wrangel himself .. yes
      1. Rodent
        Rodent 13 November 2019 20: 11
        +5
        True, the Reds soon covered Wrangel himself.

        5 million against 100 thousand in the year 20. There are limits beyond which any talent is powerless. request
        1. Dalton
          Dalton 13 November 2019 20: 19
          +10
          God is on the side of large battalions. Eternal truth
        2. Hantengri
          Hantengri 13 November 2019 23: 44
          +3
          Quote: Rodent
          5 million against 100 thousand in the year 20.

          It is interesting, and how could this happen, that for whites, with noble faces, by the 20th year, only 100, and for the reds, with Jewish kharas, all the same whole 5? Your deeds are wonderful, Lord! lol
          1. Dalton
            Dalton 13 November 2019 23: 49
            +5
            I wonder how it could happen.

            But in order to find out, and go to college laughing
            you will probably find out in what unequal conditions the central authority is located, which controls the core of the empire with the main production and human resources (red), and the resistance, which hides on the outskirts (white).
            1. Dalton
              Dalton 13 November 2019 23: 52
              +5
              so the Jewish Hari, as you say HanTengri (Igor), and began to control the Russian people
              Well, the reds had more noble faces than the whites. And even the bluest blood laughing
            2. Hantengri
              Hantengri 13 November 2019 23: 58
              -1
              Quote: Dalton
              But in order to find out, and go to college

              Yes? And what is really necessary? And in what? belay
              Quote: Dalton
              and resistance huddling on the outskirts (white).

              What a nightmare! And what de'Bill put them in there?
              1. Dalton
                Dalton 14 November 2019 08: 36
                +7
                And what de'Bill put them there

                The coup in October 17 occurred in St. Petersburg, then they captured Moscow. And, accordingly, they took over the center of Russia.
                And those who disagree and all patriots fled away from them. That is, on the outskirts - to the Don, Kuban, to Siberia. So the situation that developed
              2. Rodent
                Rodent 14 November 2019 08: 45
                +4
                HanTengri (Igor)
                And in what?

                At least just getting a higher education didn’t interfere
          2. Durman_54
            Durman_54 14 November 2019 07: 52
            +2
            They hung the noodles more convincingly, that's how. The land is there for the peasants, yeah.
            1. Dalton
              Dalton 14 November 2019 08: 33
              +5
              And the factory workers. And we’ll build communism laughing
            2. Sugar Honeyovich
              Sugar Honeyovich 14 November 2019 15: 31
              +1
              And for greater persuasiveness they simply gave it to the peasants. good
              1. denatured alcohol
                denatured alcohol 14 November 2019 18: 27
                +3
                And for greater persuasiveness, they simply gave it to the peasants

                phrase - do not dig. Technically - You are right Sahar Medovich.
                Dali.
                GIVEN but DID NOT GIVE.
                That is, they gave it to use, since land ownership was canceled.
                And then even what they gave was largely taken away, forcing them to contribute zemlitsa to collective farms, that is, to the common fund. Under the state tire.
  4. XII Legion
    XII Legion 13 November 2019 19: 37
    +17
    The White movement of the south of Russia was supported at the stage of volunteering.
    The Reds quickly moved to the construction of a regular army (which the former General Staffists helped them with). And the result, as they say on the face.
    Thank you!
    1. Sugar Honeyovich
      Sugar Honeyovich 14 November 2019 15: 37
      +1
      Quote: XII legion
      The White movement of the south of Russia was supported at the stage of volunteering.

      Interesting: it is believed that the reds through mobilization became stronger, at least numerically. And whites, moving from volunteering to mobilization, increased in number, but became weaker. However, the paradox! what
      1. Albatroz
        Albatroz 22 November 2019 12: 46
        +4
        red through mobilization became stronger

        They worked the former machine of the empire
        whites, moving from volunteering to mobilization, increased in number

        nothing like this. did not have enough time
  5. Rodent
    Rodent 13 November 2019 20: 14
    +8
    Romanovsky was eventually killed in Istanbul. Fail such a chance in the summer of 19. The mind is incomprehensible request
    and then patrols near Tula flashed
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 13 November 2019 20: 39
    +2
    Yes, it's time to rename Volgograd to Stalingrad, and put up a monument to Wrangel, with an inscription from the grateful Russians, to the Liberator .. laughing
    1. Dalton
      Dalton 13 November 2019 20: 55
      +5
      No, better in Tsaritsyn.
      so it is more historical.
      With the rest - you're right! winked
      1. Alexander Suvorov
        Alexander Suvorov 13 November 2019 22: 29
        -1
        Dalton (Dalton)
        No, better in Tsaritsyn.
        Tsaritsin, except for the bakers, no one knows, including the victims of the exam. But Stalingarad knows the whole world!

        PS
        Oleinikov A., professor of the Mogilev branch of the BIP (Belarusian Institute of Law)
        I’m afraid it’s not modest, but before my battles with a certain Oleinikov, this Mr. signed modestly.
        By the way, not a single search engine gives out such a "professor" in any department of this institution. By the way, rather doubtful from the point of view of scientific value!
        1. Dalton
          Dalton 13 November 2019 22: 33
          +6
          Stalingarad

          First, learn to write without errors the victim of the exam))
          1. Dalton
            Dalton 13 November 2019 22: 49
            +6
            Cleaned up Alexander Suvorov (Alexander Suvorov) previous comment?
            Oh well))
            I’m afraid it’s not modest, but before my battles with a certain Oleinikov, this Mr. signed modestly.

            Self-conceit above the roof)) Because of Rezun so signed?))
            Yeah)))
            not a single search engine gives out such a "professor" in any department of this institution.
            You I look the same specialist in climbing on the Internet, as I am a ballerina.
            So go to the website of the branch of this university if interested. I found)
            By the way, quite dubious in terms of scientific value!

            Firstly, a person subscribes to the position he occupies. Under your name. Unlike you.
            Secondly, the university does not care deeply about your assessment of it as a university, I think. A university is only a university; it is not a scientific institution.
            And thirdly, I think the Military Review is far more doubtful from a scientific point of view! laughing
            1. OAV09081974
              13 November 2019 23: 35
              +9
              Alexander Suvorov (Alexander Suvorov)
              not a single search engine gives out such a "professor" in any department of this institution.

              I'm used to it) Another lie of a sworn friend, in this case under the nickname "Alexander Suvorov".
              About my work, for those who are interested -
              http://mogilev.bip-ip.by/kafedryi/kafedra-obshhey-teorii-prava-i-gumanitarnyih-distsiplin/svedeniya-o-kafedre/
              At the bottom of the page there is a live icon "Composition of the Department of General Theory of Law and Humanities".
              You can click and everything is perfectly visible.
              1. Dalton
                Dalton 13 November 2019 23: 46
                +5
                Great university.
                Victims of the exam, I think they will not regret coming to him. And not only laughing
                1. cost
                  cost 14 November 2019 00: 33
                  +9
                  OAV09081974 hi
                  It would be great if you wrote an article about your great-uncle P.N. Wrangel - Commander of the Order of St. George, 3rd Art. General of Infantry Aleksandr Evstafievich Wrangel, a Russian officer who led the assault on the village of Gunib and captured Shamil. In your presentation, the material would "play" Especially since many local "experts" naively attribute it to Ermolov sad
                  1. Rodent
                    Rodent 14 November 2019 08: 48
                    +4
                    It would be great if you wrote an article about the cousin Uncle P.N. Wrangel - Knight of the Order of St. George 3 tbsp. General of Infantry Alexandre Evstafievich Wrangel

                    It would be cool hi
                    P.N. Wrangel would have lived in those days, too, would have George-3 received as his uncle.
                    After all, how briskly he began - with a horse attack, the first St. George Knight. Do not fall for a break in time, be him a complete general
                2. Alexander Suvorov
                  Alexander Suvorov 14 November 2019 06: 49
                  -7
                  Dalton (Dalton)
                  Great university.
                  Private sharashka and nothing more. In such a "university" I can be a "professor" too. By the way, I never found Oleinikov there.
                  1. Alexander Suvorov
                    Alexander Suvorov 14 November 2019 08: 18
                    -6
                    Alexander Suvorov (Alexander Suvorov) By the way, I didn’t find Oleinikov there.
                    I take my words back. Found with 10 times.
                    That's just the prefix CHOU (private educational institution) says a lot. I do not trust private traders.
                    1. Dalton
                      Dalton 14 November 2019 08: 31
                      +6
                      Alexander Suvorov (Alexander Suvorov)
                      That's just the prefix CHOU (private educational institution) says a lot. I do not trust private traders.

                      Oh really? Do you find yourself on a state resource?))
                      As for the BIP, in Belarus, where the order is 10 heads higher than in Russia and everything is 90 percent STATE, there are only 2 - 3 private universities. And the fact that they are accredited and functioning in such a state speaks volumes. There is more order and quality of education there than in many "state" universities in Mother Russia.
                      By the way, I think it would be nice to point you to your place of work - Alexander Suvorov (Rezun) and Vashchenko below. With links to the site of the place of work. And then Vashchenko seems to be a candidate of historical sciences, protected at St. Petersburg State University, but is that protected alive? Does he work? By the way, at St. Petersburg State University? And if it’s working then it’s not a colleague of the maniac Sokolov? Now trust is not worth it.
                      So, send links to the site of the place of work, pliz.
                      1. Alexander Suvorov
                        Alexander Suvorov 14 November 2019 08: 38
                        -6
                        Dalton (Dalton) Alexander Suvorov (Rezun)
                        Type offended? So I am not offended by the sick and the monarchs. What to take from the wretched?
                        And then Vashchenko seems to be a candidate of historical sciences, protected at St. Petersburg State University, but is that protected alive? Does he work? By the way, at St. Petersburg State University? And if it’s working then it’s not a colleague of the maniac Sokolov? Now trust is not worth it.
                        I did not quite understand this stream of sick consciousness. Translate into Russian, please.
                        So, send links to the site of the place of work
                        If you mean my place of work, then please: "BK-ALPROF" LLC. I hope you know how to use a search engine?
                        pliz
                        What's this? I do not know such a word in Russian.
                      2. Dalton
                        Dalton 14 November 2019 08: 54
                        +5
                        They offended me ??
                        I'm not offended by the wretched))
                        This is someone with a sick consciousness, if the author kindly gave you a link to his current place of work, and you are an old record
                        By the way, I didn’t find Oleinikova there.

                        And amused yet:
                        In such a "university" I can be a "professor" too.

                        so BE. And you just can, it’s here in worthless comments to tear the throat.
                        I have the following stream of consciousness - bring here you and Vashenko LIVING links to the sites of current places of work (without meaningless abbreviations, which are hundreds and tens).
                        It is live links.
                        This will be fair. If you are men of course.
                        So in Russian and understandable ??
                      3. Alexander Suvorov
                        Alexander Suvorov 14 November 2019 08: 58
                        -5
                        Dalton (Dalton)
                        It is live links.
                        Have you been banned in Google or too lazy to type LLC "BK-ALPROF"?
                        If laziness, then here: bkalprof.ru
                        so BE. And you just can, it’s here in worthless comments to tear the throat.
                        Unlike Mr. Oleinikov, I am busy with business and work in production, which brings real benefits to the country, in the form of aluminum and value added. And I’m not doing the whitening of a black dog, which you don’t wash as much as you don’t wash.
                        Chatting, not tossing bags, right?
                      4. Dalton
                        Dalton 14 November 2019 09: 02
                        +5
                        Ну и что?
                        And where is Alexander Suvorov? You give me a link to the section where you are listed among the campaign employees. I asked for it.
                      5. Alexander Suvorov
                        Alexander Suvorov 14 November 2019 09: 05
                        -6
                        Dalton (Dalton)
                        Ну и что?
                        And where is Alexander Suvorov? You give me a link to the section where you are listed among the campaign employees. I asked for it.
                        For especially "gifted" I would like to inform you that such lists of employees do not exist in nature, since it is a trade secret of the company. Or is this news to you? The maximum who can be found on the sites is the data of the head and the chief accountant, I am neither one nor the other, so call me.

                        P.S. Counter offer, give me a link to a company where a certain "Dalton" would be listed as an employee. You can not?
                      6. Dalton
                        Dalton 14 November 2019 09: 07
                        +5
                        Again I look replaced the previous comment Suvorov)
                        I, unlike Mr. Oleinikov, am busy with business and work in production,

                        we don’t know about it yet. these are just your words.
                        While you just chatting in the comments on VO, in contrast to Mr. Oleinikov, who, indeed, is busy with the case.
                        So Alexander Suvorov is waiting for the link of the page where you are indicated as an employee of this campaign. And Vashchenko is lower, which pretends to be a candidate of sciences at St. Petersburg State University (I understand Sokolov’s colleague).
                      7. Dalton
                        Dalton 14 November 2019 09: 12
                        +5
                        Alexander Suvorov (Alexander Suvorov)
                        For especially "gifted" I would like to inform you that such lists of employees do not exist in nature

                        Q.E.D.
                        LLC "BK-ALPROF" is just a legend of a person who cowardly hides under the name of Alexander Suvorov. The campaign exists, but you are not in it.
                        By the way, by law, the list of employees is not subject to trade secrets. Yes and what secret can be at such a sharashkin office.
                        Everything with you is clear nickname Alexander Suvorov.
                        With Vashchenko, I think much easier. For there is a website of St. Petersburg State University with an indication of the departments and their employees. Yes, he is also disguised as you. I have no doubt a minute)
                      8. Alexander Suvorov
                        Alexander Suvorov 14 November 2019 09: 35
                        -7
                        Dalton (Dalton)
                        Q.E.D.
                        I repeat, to begin with, give me the list and name of the company where a certain "Dalton" is listed as an employee. Can you?
                        Then what do you want from me?
                        LLC "BK-ALPROF" is just a legend
                        At least this is a real company.
                        The campaign exists, but you are not in it.
                        Go to the site and find me data for at least one employee. Or the company works without any employees.
                        Yes and what secret can be at such a sharashkin office.
                        This "sharashkina office" is one of the leaders in the aluminum market in Russia.
                        Everything with you is clear nickname Alexander Suvorov.
                        Just like you, nickname "dalton". What are you asking me to disclose my personal data without revealing my own? Who are you an FSB officer to make such demands?
                        Absolutely not going to report to you. You are no one on the Internet like me.
                      9. denatured alcohol
                        denatured alcohol 14 November 2019 09: 42
                        +5
                        Daragoi!
                        What does Dalton have to do with it?
                        The author has reported to you, and you are noodle, huh?
                        At least this is a real company.

                        But you are NOT in Sasha. Rezunchik (that is, Suvorov)
                        What do you require me to disclose your personal data without revealing yours?

                        Then why fit in with such demands on others?
                        Who are you the FSB officer to make such demands?

                        and if so? laughing
                      10. denatured alcohol
                        denatured alcohol 14 November 2019 09: 43
                        +5
                        and I also join the question of the reality of Vashchenko.
                        okay suvorov, insignificance of comments.
                        But the author Vashchenko, and the site of St. Petersburg State University is.
                        I look forward to archie laughing
                      11. Alexander Suvorov
                        Alexander Suvorov 14 November 2019 09: 48
                        -4
                        denatured (Sergey) insignificance from comments.
                        Oooh, blue blood poured out of the crushers. The intelligentsia, you will not say anything ... laughing
                        methylated spirits (Sergey)
                        and I also join the question of the reality of Vashchenko.
                        So you do not exist in reality either, is it "denatured alcohol"?
                      12. denatured alcohol
                        denatured alcohol 14 November 2019 10: 31
                        +6
                        flooded "blue blood"

                        so blue as yours, no one else. don't you think so lol
                        and you do not exist in reality, is it "denatured"?

                        we have not finished yet.
                        But you confessed
                        и you in the reality There is no
                      13. Alexander Suvorov
                        Alexander Suvorov 14 November 2019 10: 34
                        -5
                        methylated spirits (Sergey)
                        we have not finished yet.
                        You may not have finished, but this is purely your problem. As for me, I’m definitely not along the way with you, and you are tired of me.
                      14. denatured alcohol
                        denatured alcohol 14 November 2019 10: 38
                        +7
                        Yes, it’s not with you, that’s right.
                        "production worker" hanging on sites laughing
                        in Russia, even the oligarchs are all raw materials producers (including metallurgy). And in other countries, at least there are those who became oligarchs on sweets or milk laughing
                      15. Yaik Cossack
                        Yaik Cossack 14 November 2019 09: 57
                        +6
                        After the recent skinning of Rusal and Deripaska, the Russian aluminum industry came under American control. The vast majority of real revenue remains abroad in offshore. How can a true ideological Soviet patriot like you work as a collaborator and a minion of compradors, and even be proud of it?
                        Or am I mistaken and you are actively fighting there for the interests of the working people. I suppose you are leading the union, judging by your revolutionism?
                      16. Alexander Suvorov
                        Alexander Suvorov 14 November 2019 10: 01
                        -6
                        Yaitsky Cossack (Borodin) The vast majority of real revenue remains abroad.
                        Byad, and our founders do not even know about it. wassat
                        Where only the tax looks. request
                        How can a true ideological Soviet patriot like you work as a collaborator and a minion of compradors, and even be proud of it?
                        Oh, how scary, I am already a "collaborator" ... laughing laughing laughing
                        Excuse me, but where do you think a "real ideological Soviet patriot like me" should work? As I understand it, either at the "Bolshevichka" factory or on the collective farm. Lenin?
                      17. Yaik Cossack
                        Yaik Cossack 14 November 2019 10: 16
                        +7
                        Oh, how, the valiant Soviet patriot rushed to the defense of the current regime and crystal clear tax ....)))) Yes, its integrity, as well as the moral purity of aluminum oligarchs, including Deripaska, is known to everyone))))
                        The ideological Soviet patriot should fight for socialism, and not gear to the oligarchs. Well, or continue as you six to the robbers of the country and the people of the oligarchs, but then stop moralizing about socialism and teach others.
                      18. Yaik Cossack
                        Yaik Cossack 14 November 2019 10: 20
                        +7
                        It's funny that our aluminum yuchuchun set me a minus, but I did not dare to refute the story about the taking of assets by the Americans from Deripaska.
                        But the story is very entertaining and perfectly characterizing the aluminum industry of erefia, I advise everyone to read it, though it is better to read English-language materials, since in Russia this topic was hushed up on command from above.
                      19. Yaik Cossack
                        Yaik Cossack 14 November 2019 10: 02
                        +6
                        Would you be proud in 1942 that you work for the Reisskommissariat Ukraine?
                        So, scratch any modern loudly screaming leftist - you will find office plankton and six minions of world capital)))))
              2. Olgovich
                Olgovich 14 November 2019 08: 05
                +6
                Quote: OAV09081974
                I'm used to it) Another lie of a sworn friend, in this case under the nickname "Alexander Suvorov".

                Dear Alexey Vladimirovich,

                is it worth paying attention to petty vindicators, representing, from the point of view of knowledge, emptiness?

                Let them out! .
                You are doing a great, truly, deed, a matter of the revival of Russian History, the return to us of its glorious deeds, great pages and true Heroes. Do not waste time on emptiness.

                We appreciate your waiting beautiful, conscientiously executed, works ..

                Best regards
  7. Kapitan a
    Kapitan a 13 November 2019 21: 45
    +11
    Yes, an interesting warrior! No luck man to be born and live at such a time! Circumstances turned out so that the baron was spending his time and abilities inside Russia in the internal war, and not with external enemies. The material is interesting, thanks to the author. I look forward to continuing.
  8. Edward Vashchenko
    Edward Vashchenko 13 November 2019 22: 19
    -3
    Good stuff,
    just one question:
    The strength of P.N. Wrangel as a combat commander was that, having a sharp military mind, he very quickly (instantly), easily and accurately understood the most difficult, unexpectedly developing situation - not only with regard to his combat area, but also to the entire front . Possessed operational insight (in particular, anticipating the aforementioned offensive of the Reds) and, depending on the combat situation, immediately and precisely determined the direction of the necessary counter-strike against the enemy to counter the offensive of the latter.

    Is it an artistic metaphor or is it all confirmed in the sources?
    1. Dalton
      Dalton 13 November 2019 22: 32
      +9
      All facts cited in the article are confirmed by sources)
      Are you not so approach your articles?))
      1. Dalton
        Dalton 13 November 2019 22: 42
        +11
        By the way, Vashchenko, some of the answers are given in the same quote
        Possessed operational insight (in particular, anticipating the above offensive of the Reds)

        but this
        On May 6, Art. Grand Duchess and captured 15 thousand prisoners, 55 guns and 150 machine guns.
        and what is connected with it doesn’t confirm that
        having a sharp military mind, he very quickly (instantly), easily and accurately understood the most difficult, unexpectedly developing situation
        ??
        Wrangel’s operations in the North Caucasus and the capture of Tsaritsyn in 19 are the best confirmation of these phrases.
        Even if you do not take into account the estimates of colleagues and contemporaries
        1. Yaik Cossack
          Yaik Cossack 14 November 2019 00: 31
          +6
          The Moscow directive, that is, offensive in all directions with spread fingers was a strategic mistake. The exit by the summer of 1919 of the Caucasian army to Saratov would radically change the situation. The Ural Army would have risen and could have identified a strong horse fist (up to the corps) for operations in the Samara direction. Orenburgers also still represented significant strength. By the way, the Reds were very afraid of this (I found a lot in the archives) and tried to strengthen the grouping here, but they did not have strategic reserves here. On the contrary, the attack on Ukraine only fettered white forces. Ukraine was against everyone - white, red. Well, let Makhno fight with the Petliurists and the Reds.
          1. Yaik Cossack
            Yaik Cossack 14 November 2019 00: 36
            +6
            The article is definitely a plus. Until now, actions at Manych have been underestimated in the history of Civil
  9. Lieutenant Teterin
    Lieutenant Teterin 14 November 2019 11: 28
    +4
    Great article! To the author - my gratitude for the work done and the excellent photos!
  10. Valerikk
    Valerikk 14 November 2019 11: 58
    0
    Quote: Dalton
    And those who disagree and all patriots fled away from them.

    This is how they indiscriminately took and enlisted the Reds as "non-patriots."
    1. Yaik Cossack
      Yaik Cossack 14 November 2019 12: 39
      +3
      And they tried so patriotically to “tear up the hem of Mother Russia”, to give the Baltic states and Ukraine to the Germans, destroyed the grave of Minin, demolished the temple-monument of the 1812 Patriotic War of the year. Why not make red for the sake of Russian patriotism, right?
      1. Rastas
        Rastas 14 November 2019 20: 17
        0
        Temple monument in honor of the war ??? What does this have to do with Christianity?
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