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The Indian Air Force decided on the concept of a new generation fighter AMCA

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Indian media, citing a senior source in the military department, said that the country's air force decided on the concept of a new generation fighter. Recall that earlier the Indian Air Force command refused to consider options for the purchase of 5-generation fighters abroad. It was also added that the country will focus on developing its own combat aircraft under the AMCA program.


The Indian Air Force decided on the concept of a new generation fighter AMCA


The Ministry of Defense of India plans to get a fighter, on which two engines will be installed, capable of taking the aircraft to supersonic speed without afterburner, as well as providing supersecurity. The fighter must be equipped with a radar with an active phased antenna (AFAR, AESA).

Air Force spokesman in an interview with The Economic Times:
The Indian promising fighter should receive an important advantage - the stealth technology.


As you can see, in India they still believe that it is stealth technology that is the main development aviation to gain an advantage over the enemy.

It is planned to spend about 1,1 billion dollars on the design of a new generation combat aircraft under the AMCA project (excluding funds for the execution of the combat vehicle itself). The plans say that by the 2025 year the prototype should be rolled out from the hangar, and by 2026 - the first test flight of the latest fighter.

Recall that earlier in India they talked about creating a new generation fighter for the 2030 year and mass production for the 2035. These terms in the conceptual program remained unchanged. At the same time, the interlocutor of the mentioned Indian publication said that the basic concept of a promising fighter has already been adopted.
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  1. Operator
    Operator 29 October 2019 12: 15
    +10
    I remember the Indians designed and developed their tank, and bought a T-90 with a kondishin laughing
    1. Tony
      Tony 29 October 2019 12: 18
      +7
      They said correctly: "Don't spit in the well, you have to get drunk ..." Hindus, Hindus, Hindus ...
      1. krot
        krot 29 October 2019 21: 02
        +1
        In a week, the Indians will be disappointed in their "concept" and will again look for a 5th generation fighter from someone .. And then, as they find a suitable one, it turns out that it does not fall under their concept)) Well, so on ..))
    2. Alf
      Alf 29 October 2019 20: 04
      +1
      Quote: Operator
      I remember the Indians designed and developed their tank, and bought a T-90 with a kondishin laughing


      Air Force spokesman in an interview with The Economic Times:
      The Indian promising fighter should receive an important advantage - the stealth technology.

      T, e, money will be spent on it, a plant will be built, but no one will see it in parts. Stealth, however ...
  2. Victor_B
    Victor_B 29 October 2019 12: 16
    +1
    Cheaper and easier to buy from us.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 29 October 2019 12: 19
      +3
      Quote: Victor_B
      Cheaper and easier to buy from us.

      Not yet evening. Planning is one thing, and doing is quite another.
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 29 October 2019 12: 53
        0
        Let them make sure that money is wasted. Then it will be better as buyers.
    2. Berber
      Berber 29 October 2019 13: 44
      0
      Cheaper is not a factor. BAGS are cheaper to buy from us (30 times), but they do it themselves. And production is needed for the right people to earn money. They have all the military industry private. Therefore, "dances with tambourines".
    3. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 29 October 2019 18: 29
      0
      Somehow cheap - lard for a 5th generation fighter? Is that from a reed?
  3. gvozdan
    gvozdan 29 October 2019 12: 16
    +1
    It remains only to create all the remaining 95% of the aircraft.
    1. Last centurion
      Last centurion 29 October 2019 12: 36
      +4
      rather 99.99999 more. so far only desires and dreams :)
  4. Nycomed
    Nycomed 29 October 2019 12: 18
    0
    Is he in the photo? And what kind of "stealth" can we talk about when external suspensions are present? And where will the Indians get the declared engines? This makes no sense... fool
    1. Voyager
      Voyager 29 October 2019 12: 27
      +6
      We also have external suspensions on the Su-57. And even on the F-22 there.
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 29 October 2019 12: 30
        +3
        Yes, but removable. For stealth tasks, there is an internal weapons compartment. But on the Indian model, I don’t see something
    2. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 29 October 2019 12: 33
      -1
      Quote: Nycomed
      Is he in the photo? And what kind of "stealth" can we talk about when external suspensions are present? And where will the Indians get the declared engines? This makes no sense... fool


      That's where the Indians get engines for the AMCA.
      a promising medium-sized combat aircraft (AMCA [1]), the next-generation Indian fighter, will make its first flight in 2032. Currently under development.
      “AMCA will have the invisibility provided by geometry (geometric stealth) and in the first stage will fly with two GE-414 engines. Once we develop our own engine, it can be replaced. We expect the first flight in 2032, ”a source from the Ministry of Defense said.


      The aircraft will have the same GE-414 engine as the LCA Mk-2 modification, which is at the design stage.
      The GE-414 delivers 98 kN thrust compared to the 84 kN thrust of the GE-404 engine used on the LCA Mk1.

      1. Kurare
        Kurare 29 October 2019 13: 06
        +1
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        That's where the Indians get engines for the AMCA.

        hi Neither the United States nor France are going to transfer engine technology to them. And buying the same GE-414 will just make the project rich. NOBODY makes their "fifth generation" without their own engine.
        1. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter 29 October 2019 13: 15
          -1
          hi The Turks went the same way.
          The Turkish aircraft manufacturer TAI has chosen the American company General Electric and engines of the F110 family to equip the promising domestic TF-X fighter, VP reports with reference to defensenews.com (October 31).

          A senior procurement officer from the Turkish Defense Ministry confirmed the choice, saying that the twin-engine TF-X will be powered by F110-GE-129 or F110-GE-132. “This decision is final, we will not create our own engine for the TF-X,” the official said. According to plans, the first prototype TF-X and an unknown number of aircraft of the initial batch will be equipped with the F110 turbojet engine. Turkey then plans to switch to an engine that will be developed by the national engine consortium TRMotor.

          https://vpk.name/news/233343_tfx_vyibral_dvigatel.html
          1. Kurare
            Kurare 29 October 2019 13: 25
            +2
            Quote: Sky Strike fighter
            The Turks went the same way.

            Both India and Turkey are "great aviation powers" with a rich and glorious school of aircraft construction. (sarcasm)
            To be honest, I very much doubt such projects. For example, India proved that creating even its own light fighter is far from a trivial matter. Without its own engine, such a project will most likely remain in the form of a beautiful plastic layout.
            Wait and see! hi
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 29 October 2019 15: 36
              +1
              I don’t understand why both of them should not unite with South Korea or Japan. Similar projects and sizes and countries do a lot of things themselves.
              1. Kurare
                Kurare 29 October 2019 17: 28
                0
                Quote: Zaurbek
                I don’t understand why both of them should not unite with South Korea or Japan. Similar projects and sizes and countries do a lot of things themselves.

                Well, have teamed up on the JSF project. Who did not have time ... The future will show whether it is late or won!
                1. Zaurbek
                  Zaurbek 29 October 2019 17: 46
                  0
                  Here, all participants are more or less equal .... another situation and everyone can customize for themselves.
                  1. Kurare
                    Kurare 29 October 2019 17: 48
                    0
                    Quote: Zaurbek
                    Here all the participants are more or less equal ...

                    Where? In the JSF program? You have completely incorrect information. The transfer of technologies, especially key technologies, is completely absent.
                    1. Zaurbek
                      Zaurbek 29 October 2019 17: 51
                      0
                      I'm talking about my clever idea - about Hindus, Turks, Koreans
              2. Sky strike fighter
                Sky strike fighter 29 October 2019 18: 13
                +1
                Quote: Zaurbek
                I don’t understand why both of them should not unite with South Korea or Japan. Similar projects and sizes and countries do a lot of things themselves.

                Turks actively support Pakistan in the conflict with India, at least in words, which makes cooperation between Turkey and India impossible. South Korea and Japan also have a difficult relationship because of history and disputed lands.
                1. Zaurbek
                  Zaurbek 29 October 2019 18: 14
                  +1
                  But Japan-India and South Korea-India ... what problems?
                  1. Kurare
                    Kurare 29 October 2019 18: 22
                    0
                    Quote: Zaurbek
                    But Japan-India and South Korea-India ... what problems?

                    In such a program, there must necessarily be someone "ringleader" with a huge baggage of competence. I don’t think they will want to do it on a parity basis. East is a delicate matter!
                    1. Zaurbek
                      Zaurbek 29 October 2019 18: 23
                      0
                      It is just beneficial here ... India is massive. And those have brains.
                      1. Kurare
                        Kurare 29 October 2019 18: 33
                        0
                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        India is massive. And those have brains.

                        You just do not say that to the Indians! laughing
                  2. Sky strike fighter
                    Sky strike fighter 29 October 2019 21: 02
                    0
                    Quote: Zaurbek
                    But Japan-India and South Korea-India ... what problems?

                    South Korea, together with Indonesia, is making its own fighter. India decided to build itself, just as Turkey and Japan decided to build their own fighters.
            2. Alf
              Alf 29 October 2019 20: 09
              0
              Quote: Kurare
              And India is a "great aviation power" with a rich and glorious school of aircraft builders.

              Is not it so ? Three thousand years ago, Wimans mastered. laughing
  5. Jerk
    Jerk 29 October 2019 12: 22
    -2
    Urrya! Peremoga! It seems that everyone who contacted the States is being gassed with "Fool". I was not mistaken - it was gas, it was watered ...
  6. JD1979
    JD1979 29 October 2019 12: 23
    +2
    Yes, yes, we have decided on the concept. It remains to decide who will present technology for manufacturing including engines to beggars.
  7. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 29 October 2019 12: 27
    +1
    That's okay! Finally ! Finally, the Indians have decided on the "orientation"! It can be expensive when you know who is "from the bottom" and who is "from the top"!
  8. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 29 October 2019 12: 29
    +3
    It is strange to read, given the exit from the FGFA project.
    Or think they can do better themselves?)) There are doubts about this
  9. Last centurion
    Last centurion 29 October 2019 12: 38
    0
    direct leaders in engine building and chemistry as well as composites (somewhere in a parallel universe)
  10. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 29 October 2019 12: 39
    +1
    This plane will appear morally obsolete when it appears. By the thirtieth year, many new products in the world of aviation should appear.
  11. knn54
    knn54 29 October 2019 12: 40
    0
    Meditation on the topic: "Reincarnation of" something "from a variety of purchases for a stealth option.
  12. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 29 October 2019 12: 40
    0
    It is necessary to explain to the Indians that any stealth can see radars of the meter range perfectly. They do not understand this simple fact!
  13. Wedmak
    Wedmak 29 October 2019 12: 43
    0
    Well, yes, the tank has already been "developed and put into production." Did the Indians get budget sawing instructions straight from the US?
  14. Sahalinets
    Sahalinets 29 October 2019 12: 49
    0
    Well, then they will develop 30 years, release 10 units and buy foreign ones.
  15. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 29 October 2019 13: 04
    +1
    About $ 1,1 billion is planned to be spent on designing a new generation combat aircraft under the AMCA project (excluding funds for the execution of the combat vehicle itself).
    May God give our calves a wolf to eat. They would ask the United States how much today the 5th generation projects.
    The total cost of the program to create a stealth new generation fighter F-35 "Lightning-2" (Lightning II) reached 1,3 trillion dollars. This was announced by the head of the program, Lieutenant General Christopher Bogdan.

    The plans say that by 2025 the prototype should be rolled out of the hangar, and by 2026 the first test flight of the latest fighter.
    From the word "never". They wanted it like in China. But China did business, albeit clumsily. And these followers of contemplation of their navel, in addition to a set of hotties, for so much time, a finger on a finger.
  16. Amateur
    Amateur 29 October 2019 13: 28
    -2
    There was a vein grandmother Hindu at the river itself
    I wanted to grandmother Hindu swim in the river new fighter
    Grandma was drunk, forgot the bast Hindu was smart, but forgot about his technical capabilities
    This song is endless, start over.
  17. Piramidon
    Piramidon 29 October 2019 13: 42
    0
    The Indian Air Force decided on the concept of a new generation fighter AMCA

    Does anyone else believe the statements of these ... who, according to the Russian proverb, "seven Fridays a week"
  18. Ros 56
    Ros 56 29 October 2019 15: 14
    0
    Hindus have not yet come up with such dances and songs for the 5th generation. lol
  19. mlad
    mlad 29 October 2019 21: 46
    +1
    for such terms, the Indians can rivet the mock-up onto the table for the generals, the engines will definitely be imported, and much more, so it will be hard to call it Indian, like the Arjun tank is assembled, so with a thread
  20. SAG
    SAG 31 October 2019 01: 18
    0
    The Ministry of Defense of India plans to get a fighter, on which two engines will be installed, capable of bringing the aircraft to supersonic speed without afterburner, as well as providing super maneuverability.
    cool .. Only dvigun has such a dvigun, and so far at the stand ... At the usa dvigun without uvt lol